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For Shame, Jill Greenberg

I am in search of civility from democrats and it is increasingly in scarce order. Case in point. The unflattering photos of John McCain shot by photographer Jill Greenberg for the October cover of the Atlantic magazine. She actually blames the publication for the quality and style of her work saying, “Some of my artwork is pretty anti-Bush, so maybe it was somewhat irresponsible for them (the Atlantic) to hire me.”

1609_mccainblood_sp.jpgNow, there’s a cop out. But wait, she didn’t stop there. She abused her professional access to McCain to shoot and photo shop additional photos of him and post to her website. Among other offensive images, her McCain portfolio includes one of him with blood coming out of a shark toothed mouth and the title “I AM A BLOODTHIRSTY WARMONGER”.

For shame, Jill Greenberg. As a fellow artist, I support freedom of expression. But this is not art.

It is character assassination and propaganda.

It is political pornography.

I am growing weary of pacifists who practice their own style of violence. And I am growing really tired of the continual efforts of the democrats to take the comments of John McCain and Sarah Palin out of context and to paint them as war hungry.

Who is more likely to dread the effects of war and its undeniable horrors? A Beverly Hills fashion photographer like Greenberg or public servants like McCain and Palin who actually both have sons serving in Iraq? And after five and a half years in a P.O.W camp, no one is more qualified to understand what is really at stake than John McCain.

Like millions of Americans, I want very much for us to find a safe way to exit Iraq and to bring our brave soldiers home. I believe that John McCain and Sarah Palin want that, too. What does Jill Greenberg want? I suspect she wants to get her 15 minutes of fame by lying to her clients and the subject she was hired to shoot. By posting sensationalized photos that would likely cause pain for almost everyone who might view them, including the families of servicemen and women who are in danger or recovery.

For shame, Jill Greenberg. Really, for shame.

  • bmc

    Pacifists who promote violence. Like CodePink
    –who call themselves “feminists”–but spew vile rage-filled hate at Sarah Palin. Breathtaking Stupidity.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/palin-pick-puts-many-women-on-the-verge/86241/

    Here’s Sarah Palin in Comparison to the sick women of CodePink:

    http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/this-is-sarah-palin/

  • beebop

    Barack 0bama should start to distance himself from these loonies or after he loses in November, he won’t be able to find work. Period.

  • wodiej

    Is there no end to the immorality, disgust and vile that emits from Obama supporters?? This is just a totally reprehensible photo. I have never considered myself far left, always been moderate but usually voted Democrat. I don’t want to be associated with this bunch in any way,shape or form.

    Greta had on a Canadian journalist on last night defending that vile Canadian journalist woman who called Palin’s supporters white trash and compared Palin to a porn actress. You should have heard him spinning, and spinning. His lips were moving but he wasn’t saying anything-just spouting off a bunch of big words. Greta called her a PIG-TWICE.

  • http://libland Audacity of Hype

    I’m not sure where I heard it, wish I could attribute it to the right person – if you’re here please step in and take credit – but Obama supporters are “intellectually arrogant and emotionally stingy.”

  • Paul3triple

    MCCAIN JUST GIVE HIS ECONOMIC SPEECH AND HIS PLAN IS A HOME RUN>
    NQ SHOULD POST THE VIDEO OF IT.
    obama meanwhile said he has no plan and will wait.
    I guess that means he is present.

  • Fenelon spoke

    Obama will find work; As someone on NQ posted recently (Sorry; I don’t recall who that was) Obama would probably rather not have the high stress, high pressure job of actually being President. He’d rather get paid large amounts of money o the public circuit talking about being a losing AA candidate who didn’t win because of the racism of all the voters of the U.S.

    As for Jill Greenberg, that is the very lame rationalization, “But they knew what my work was like; They shouldn’t have hired me.” Waaaaaaah.

    The nastiness of the militant LW makes me emabarrased to admit that I am still a registered Democrat.

    The thought of voting for McCain/Palin get a little easier each day. I was a Nader supporter but the the Democrat thuggery may push me over the edge.

  • Gleep

    Ok, I don’t know much about the world of professional photography and media, but I do know lots about white collar professionalism in the tech industry. You pull crap like this, get ready for a new line of work.

    How many periodicals that are image conscious are going to hire her now? I doubt Mad Magazine would even touch her at this point.

  • AnnieO

    Can you imagine if BO were president now and took this long to respond? This should be a wake-up call to the BO supporters!

  • HARP
  • Shiloh

    I’d go with intellectually bankrupt and emotionally immature.

  • bmc

    Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin trashed by faux feminists, and women in Britain get Sharia Law.

    Obama called himself a “Citizen of the World” while he was in Germany.

    So, do you think the US could be headed down a Euro-based road to “internationalist” Sharia law included in our system with a President Barack Obama?

    These “faux feminists” better watch out:

    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

  • Perry Logan

    I feel I can at least understand the Democrats’ motivation in using Republican—i.e., dirty—tactics in this election.

    After all, Republicans have been using dirty tactics for decades, and been hailed as political geniuses for doing so.

    And I’ve heard people saying for years, “Why don’t the Democrats get tough like the Republicans?”

    Now it finally looks like they’re giving it a whirl, but it’s clear that Democrats (the real Democrats—the PUMA Democrats) will never accept this behavior in their party, as the Republicans did.

  • AnnieO

    There was some talk about the publication taking legal action against this woman. Does anyone know if there is anything new on that front?

  • voterinexile

    Nothing against Hillbuzz but they doctored a Pelosi shot using same violent ‘bloodthirst’ imagery. It’s been on their site for months.

    “Political Porn” – an apt term – is something we might all reject and agree this type of expression while alllowed under free speech is titillating at best. It’s corrosive to real dialog – We should be using language to break down barriers not stoke partisan fires.

  • audacity

    any vote for nader or c mc kin …. it is a waste. same with no vote for the president, that can BECOME a vote for BO or writing hillary in.

    especially that we can expect surprises from BO voting tactics and voting registration

    in this election every VOTE COUNTS

  • Shiloh

    Nah. There has never been a time when both parties didn’t employ the same tactics. You may have liked one better than the other and therefore abandoned objectivity, but each party has long been a mirror of the other.

  • wodiej

    what did he say?

  • audacity

    unfortunately, rove sold donna brazile the 2000 edition, that is outdated

  • Denise

    What is the link?

  • Loveharriet

    SHE IS A SICK PERSON.

  • Scott Ferrarello

    I think the McCain camp should send those pics to Russia and Iran, and tell them ” Mess with us and you’ll have to deal with me “.

  • SJ

    Mc Cain is willing to go on the record and say what he thinks is needed to solve this financial problem, Obama on the other hand is waiting, I guess he loves to hear what others have to say first before he frames his response.

    If Obama happens to become President and a problem comes up I hope he knows that many times there is no cue given, no advance warning so you can take the political stance that is beneficial to you.

    As President you will have to go with your gut, answer that 3 am call and make a decision on the spot that you feel is right for the immediate situation, this lets wait nonsense does not cut it, just like the Hillary needed to go first before Obama answers in the debates.

    For all those that seem to be running to support this fool you all better make sure that he is capable of moving on the spur of the moment, does not seem that way now and as President if a matter arises and he has to act we are going to be in a whole lot of trouble with a President that always wants a time out before he makes a plan.

  • JohninCA

    Obama for Senate ’08.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Someone sent me this link about Obama. It’s 13 minutes long but very informative and a great watch. I’ve linked below if you want to see it. It talks about his connection to J Wright and more about his religion.

    http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

  • lark

    The Hillary experience. Michelle to Obama: “Wake up Barry, get out of bed, McCain already gave out his speech on how to solve America’s economic problems and now you can copy and paste them right on your website. I already warmed up the copier. Remember that you did it to Hillary and with your great experience you can appropriate his position to and throw them in his face. The team of plagiarizers is waiting for you. Lets go.”

    Obama: “Thanks sweetie, give my arugula pancakes, I got to go quick.”

    Obama 1 hour ago: “Given the gravity of this situation, and based on conversations I have had with both Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke, I have asked my economic team to refrain from presenting a more detailed blue-print of how an immediate plan might be structured until the Treasury and the Federal Reserve have had an opportunity to present their proposal.”

  • Perry Logan

    If that were true, I would have left the Democratic Party long ago.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

    My mother said she was fired, but the picture would still be used??? WTF???

    Hey, here’s a cheery ditty for you…

    While Clinton and Hillary Get Trashed in the U.S., Muslim Women in Britain Get Sharia Law

    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/while-clinton-and-hillary-get-trashed-in-the-us-muslim-women-in-britain-get-sharia-law/

    This is a meaty piece of what the hell is going on in Britain…and did you know about the case in Texas?

  • Denise

    We all know that these liberal women are not upset because of Roe vs Wade. It’s because they saw their sure win blow away in the wind.

    They continue to make excuses why they hate her to justify their hateful actions.

    Anyone who’s been listening to Palin knows that this women Loves America and all of it’s citizens. Everyone has their views for which they are entitled but so is Palin.

    I do not hate my peers and friends when they don’t agree with my views but I can not tolerate hate.

  • ford

    I was nauseated at the pictures, and feel that the image of McCain is so beyond the pale , he should be able to sue this person.

    She admits in interviews that she deliberately took these photos to do this abomination of images..

    the free speech stuff is very one way for Barack Obama and his friends…

    Anything anyone says about him is ” distorted and racist”.

  • JohninCA

    I would argue differently, citing such upstanding Democrats as Boss Tweed, Mayor Daley and the Chicago machine, and (for history buffs) Nathan Bedford Forrest…

  • kgirl1028

    One thing you can’t call this eleciton, is boring.

    I think eye opening is the most appropraite, I learned alot of things about democrats i didn’t want to know, but maybe needed too.I’ve always known in theory that to go to far either to left or the right produced some evil results, but to see it in action is anohter thing. I’m southern so i grew up religious, how ever i’ve always looked down on the christian right because if find them to be extremely evil because of their rigid “religious belief: but what this election has made me see is that it’s not religion, it’s the belife that your system, and on your system of belief is right and anyone who doesn’t believe it is whatever is conclusively WRONG and or EVIL. So whether you are Pat Robinson damning a doctor who performs abortions or Joy Baher on the view shredding Sarah Palin who she doesn’t even know, then you have become a very ugly hateful person. obama is one of those people who brings out the worst in people, and if he get’s the presidency alot of his biggest fans are in for a rude awakening. I would no more place Obama in the white house than i would pat robinson. it’s really just that simple, and like i’ve said before, when the dem’s slammed the door in face of 18 million peoples faces, i’ve lost my drive to stand up and fight for the right of people who don’t respect mine or the rights of others, over .

  • tminu

    BO doesn’t even write his own speeches, and even his speechwriters plagiarize!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    He seems to be reactive just like Bush, not proactive. That’s not what we need right now, or ever. But it seems to be where the world is headed.

  • AnnieO

    And BO’s a lot slower than Bush to react! Now, that’s scarrry!

  • lark

    Too perfect

  • kgirl1028

    Over 18 million women and men voted for hillary cinton, and they don’t deserve the disrespect, to be told to get over it. Maybe it’s because I like underdogs, but i will always run to the aid of people that i feel are being hurt. My mother wanted me to go to a conservative christian college, so I did, and i always stood out not just because I was one of a handful of blacks students, but because I was pro choice, and I believed in gay rights. And I always did it because i truly believed God didn’t want people to be condescending holy art thou snobbish Christians. So imagine my shock when i founded out there are snobby holier than thou liberals, and you know what ” I just don’t like them”

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Berserk “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Ohitler

    Wake up call? You can’t wake the brain dead.

  • Bingo

    Obama is in bed with Fanni Mae, and affermative action.

    “Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the “Family” and “Conscience” of Fannie Mae”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

  • AnnieO

    I stand corrected.

  • Shiloh

    Two congressmen here in Ohio have just said that anyone who does not vote for Obama is a racist:

    They argue many voters who call themselves “Democrats” or “Independents”, but won’t vote for Obama, have only one excuse, with Letson saying, “I would say that a lot of it is they’re not going to vote for ‘the black guy’”.

    Hagan called the issue “unpatriotic,” adding those not willing to vote for Obama need “to face that fact. That that’s not acceptable in America.”

  • Palin4Prez

    That photo really doesn’t do McCain any favors and having it up just creates more notoriety for this far-left ideological hack, Greenburg. She must be making all of the Hollywood celebutard rounds as we speak laughing it up with the likes of Chevey Chase and Lindsey Lohan. Also known as self-obssessed, politically stupid attention whores.

  • arabella trefoil

    Obama for Jail House Lawyer ’08.

  • wodiej

    more morons and race baiters….if Obama was white they wouldn’t have a problem w people not voting for him because he’s inexperienced and unqualified. If he was white and went around calling black people racist, I am guessing then that would not be ok.

  • MrMike

    It’s the equivalent of drawing a moustache and goatee on election or wanted poster in the old days. And as juvenile, just like the rants at Kos and TPM.

  • C.S.

    She has a right to her opinion of a McCain presidency but she should either hide her bias or use a disclaimer that her paid work is propaganda. However, if she cares to balance her bias by depicting Soertoro/Obama with shark teeth or as a vampire sucking the life’s blood from the voters that’s fine with me.

    It’s the obnoxious double standard Soertoro/Obama disciples think We the People are stupid enough to buy that really offends me!

  • HC

    What about Black folks who wont vote for O? Did the congressmen have any words of wisdom for us? “Uncle Tom” mayhap?

    I am about to make a bumper sticker saying “Uncle Toms for McCain”.

    I will take it for a spin through the affluent Obamaloving suburbs here and see what they have to say to me.

    Obama’s unity train is Orwellian. I have never seen America so divided.

  • fred

    Hillary Latino Backer Move To McCain Camp
    McCain Wins Endorsement of Democrat
    As Barack Obama and John McCain battle for the Hispanic vote, a leading Latino backer of Hillary Clinton is crossing party lines to support the Republican presidential nominee.
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  • AnnieO

    Great video!

  • wodiej

    I attend a conservative college also. My main reason for selecting it was because I could take my classes online. We interact on student forums and work in teams and I find the logic and reasoning of others refreshing. I don’t care about the big words or the latest cliche…just give me straight talk.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    TIME cries racism – falls on face
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/time-cries-racism-falls-on-face/
    on McCain’s Fannie Mae ads

  • http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PALIN Mary Cusack

    He’s waiting so that he can copy it down and rehearse it and call it his own

  • Disgusted

    This is a bit OT but I found it rather odd. Yesterday (I think it was yesterday) SusanunPc had an article which contained this quote from Sarah Palin about Obama

    “When it comes to reform, has he never once said, ‘We did’ instead of ‘I will’?

    Then today while reading the morning paper I came across this article.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-obama-jones-ethics-19sep19,0,5160379.story

    Can anybody tell me that they don’t see right through Obama? Can’t you just hear the phone call? Emil we need to get some reform going I’m getting pounded on it.

  • Lucinda

    “Some of my artwork is pretty anti-Bush, so maybe it was somewhat irresponsible for them (the Atlantic) to hire me.”

    So now every worker who’s ever been fired from a job can just blame the employer for being irresponsible enough to hire him/her in the first place.
    Cop out was a decent way of putting it. Greenberg is just another member of the spoiled, selfish brat, “you owe me because I’m here” generation.
    Give me a break!

  • LizfromFL

    The photos are beyond disgusting.

    O/T…did anyone in FL get this:

    Governor Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano to Host “Change We Need” Event on Women’s Economic Security

    TAMPA – SATURDAY, September 20, Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Governor Janet Napolitano of Arizona will campaign in St. Petersburg on behalf of Senator Barack Obama. The Governors will host an event on women’s economic security at Eckerd College.

    The governors will discuss the challenges women face and Barack Obama’s strong and consistent record on fighting for women’s issues including equal pay initiatives, affordable family healthcare for all, and paid sick leave so working women can continue to take care of their families when they are too ill to work.

    “We are very excited to have Governors Sebelius and Napolitano here talking about economic security, one of the most important issues we face in this election,” Women’s Vote Director Ruth Cox said. “As prices soar and it becomes harder to save and take care of our families, women recognize that Barack Obama is the only candidate who will stand up for them on the issues that mean the most to them.”

    And my reply:

    Tell me then why Obama pays the women on his staff, on average, less than the men? And why Bill Burton has said that he doesn’t think they can find 10 women qualified to make the President’s cabinet more balanced? And tell me how “Democratic” it is to SELECT the candidate to represent the party (by stacking the odds in favor of caucuses replete with intimidation) instead of the person the majority of the PEOPLE wanted? And to take away Florida’s delegates and then ever so graciously return them when the candidate the people wanted was out of the picture????

    Tell me what Obama has DONE for women, please? Not what he will do, since he changes with each group he speaks to, or whichever wind is blowing that day.

    You, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, and anyone who is supporting the undemocratic policies of the party are responsible for destroying the party. And at this point it needs to be.

    –From one of your long time former supporters who worked in for many Dem candidates in many elections, who Donna Brazile said in several emails…”stay at home, we don’t need you.” Think I’m angry? You don’t even have a clue.

    You won’t answer this because you know it’s true. I hope he and all of you go down in flames. And am I racist, as we’ve been labeled? ABSOLUTELY NOT. The worst insult ever.Add that to the list as well.

  • Pearl

    Well, this is certainly beyond “character” assasination:

    Sandra Bernhard: Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan…

    There must be an audio or video of this? Al Sharpton should be all over this racist. Talk about angry, she even beats Michelle O.

    Disgrace!

  • wodiej

    here we go…another Clinton backer moves to our column. How any Republicans have moved over to support BO I wonder?? Uh…NONE. Donald Trump who is a big Hillary supporter is supporting McCain now also.

  • C.S.

    But at least when Bush reacted, he made a decision – even if it was the wrong one.

    Soetoro/Obama is going to sit contemplating that red phone until whoever the call was about implements their decision. And by the time Soertoro/Obama “builds a consensus” that decision will have been carried out.

    Compare JFK, Cuban missile crisis, verge of nuclear war, staring down Nikita Khrushchev with Soertoro/Obama’s Greek Theater moment and if you don’t get the point you never will.

  • Pearl
  • educatedwhitewoman

    This is truly frightening – from that article:

    From The Times of September 14, 2008:

    ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

    The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

    Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.

    Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

    It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.

    Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

    Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

    Siddiqi said: “We realised that under the Arbitration Act we can make rulings which can be enforced by county and high courts. The act allows disputes to be resolved using alternatives like tribunals. This method is called alternative dispute resolution, which for Muslims is what the sharia courts are.”

    The next day, the Daily Express reported on the backlash as it was revealed that Sharia Courts had already heard “more than 100 cases.”

  • LizfromFL

    Well, lo and behold I did get an answer! Here’s the reply I received from my email (above 9:44:29)I’m not including his name, I respect him for taking the time to reply. I don’t agree with his reasoning but this is democracy and he is stating his case with much civility.

    First, I am not a paid staff guy. I am a person that was very involved with Hillary’s effort to win the primary in Florida. Never have been paid always just a citizen trying to do my part to elect good people office.

    I understand your feelings. Many of us have/had the same feelings, but we have to look at the bigger picture.

    I do not know the salary structure of the Obama campaign staff. I doubt that is even available so maybe what you have seen is just bs distributed by the McCain camp (maybe?)
    I agree with nearly everything you said about the primary process, it needs to be fixed. But if you know anything about the Republican process it is SO much worse. Very corrupt and controlled by party insiders to a degree we can never approach.
    Jeeze, me Dean and Brazille, if you knew me you would know that went straight threw my heart. OUCH
    Donna Brazille speaks for no one other than herself. She is self serving and I wouldn’t care what she had to say about much of anything.

    All that being said it is what it is. Look at John McCain and his career. Look at his policies. I think if you put our disappointment aside you will come to the same realization most of us have. We can’t let them have the White House for another 4 years. This country is on the brink of disaster. I don’t mean to be overly dramatic but, our survival as a country is threatened because of the same economic policies John McCain has and will continue to support. And god forbid something were to happen to him. Can we really have Palin as the most powerful person on earth?

    This is me…. Just a guy trying to do what I think is right:

  • Patrick Walker

    I am far left and the photo of McCain was inappropriate.

    For me, I’d perform that photoshopping on some CEO of one of these bailed out institutions… who will no doubt received monumental golden parachutes courtesy of the US Treasury.

  • Palin4Prez

    Oh, here’s something else the media hasn’t been reporting on Drunko Joe Biden:
    ———-

    Joe Biden Loses Barack Obama the Catholic Vote

  • For Impartial Journalism

    After hearing the resurgence of talk in the last couple of days all over the media and from Obama supporters about the “Bradley Effect”, I had a feeling that Obama had got down to the lowest he could: “Shame on you. If you don’t vote for me you’re racist. Shame, Shame, don’t you feel guilty?”.

    Shiloh, you have just confirmed my fears. If this is going on in Ohio, it is going on in every state of the union.

    My resolve is strong but how many other voters on the fence will be affected by this “white/hispanic/asian guilt” ploy?

    Anyone have any idea?

    Right now, McCain is to Obama as Kerry was to Bush as far as Rasmussen Polls. In other words, McCain is the underdog in the polling. What can we do to turn that around?

  • Mr.Murder

    Why give it traction by showing the image? Must be trying to cast those poor republicans, such victims they are, in the victim’s narrative.

    When the effort is that over the top, deny it coverage. No such thing as bad publicity, vice versa.

  • Patrick Walker

    AA who don’t vote Obama will be labelled Oreos. Black on the outside, white on the inside.

  • wodiej

    this kind of mentality is why Democrats always lose elections. If Obama were white, this election would be over. But because he is half black and he and his supporters keep throwing the race card out, he is close in the polls taken. First of all, polls aren’t reliable. I believe alot of people are just not going to say who they are voting for. This morning our local radio station said 20% of the voters in Indiana are undecided. That is unusual for this conservative state. I say people are just not talking and then Obama will get his corrupt ass kicked into orbit on Nov. 4th by McCain and Palin. There is no reasonable explanationi for Obama even having a shot at this except for his ethnicity.

    People need to volunteer. There are alot of different things you can do. Take food to campaign workers at headquarters, help homebound voters fill out their absentee ballots…you get paid too. And of course go door to door talking to undecideds if you’re not too shy.

  • Jess Terr

    Nobama for president of iran.

    Apparently, when this story broke, someone posted greenbergs studio address and phone number and that same day, she took the pics off her website.
    Not only does she engage in fraudulent practices, but she is a spineless coward as well.
    Does that remind you of anyone?

    Monitor the vote and the vote count.
    Country First!!!

  • AnnieO

    That, pretty much, was my point. The only difference was I was thinking more in terms of how the financial markets would react to such a slow response.

  • artemis

    you all thought the New Yorker cover was OK. what’s the diff?

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/16/such-a-brouhaha/

  • C.S.

    Throughout history strong women have been raped to shame them and killed to shut them up. I wouldn’t trust any candidate with my life who wouldn’t step in to stop supporters from making threats like this in his name.

    This behavior is tolerated in countries where citizens do not have civil rights and are not important to the ruling class; not in democracies. And because we live in a democracy, we don’t have to prove anything to Soertoro/Obama or his disciples.

    It is up to them to prove they are honorable and trustworthy and will protect and serve the Constitution and so far they are abject failures because the only thing they “protect and serve ” is their lord and master Soetoro/Obama. NOT the United States of America.

  • jcm

    Donna has been at it a long time – she was Jessie Jackson’s 1984 “It’s Our Time”
    campaign” when he was ranting about jews and whites. Understand BO has put out a spanish language ad that is very deceitful and dangerous.

  • Leisa

    That is what “political correctness” gets you…

    Sharia Law.

  • beebop

    Let them tell me that to my face and each and every person who votes here in Ohio.

    I just fielded my first zeromama call. She sounded 80 so I told her not to waste her breath, that I am a McCain volunteer. She wished me a nice day. I hope and pray no one takes any action here at home ….

  • Artemis

    Who is more likely to dread the effects of war and its undeniable horrors? A Beverly Hills fashion photographer like Greenberg or public servants like McCain and Palin who actually both have sons serving in Iraq? And after five and a half years in a P.O.W camp, no one is more qualified to understand what is really at stake than John McCain.

    It is stunning how many on the far Left are unable or unwilling to grasp the truth of that statement.

  • Dan

    All of the “angry leftists” are basically nothing more than spoiled children in need of a good spanking.

    Code Pink, ANSWER, MoveOn.org, the Daily Kossacks, this stupid bitch Jill Greenberg … all of them.

    Yet these are the people who have largely taken over the Democratic Party and who will have access to the corridors of power in Washington if Barack Obama wins.

    This is why normal rational Democrats should vote for John McCain. Only a loss in November will give you the excuse you need to purge your party of these turds and return it to what it once was. And Hillary Clinton would be the perfect leader to do just that.

  • Artemis

    to artemis with the lower cap “a” – if you don’t get the difference, then all the explanations in the world aren’t going to help you.

  • jcm

    speaking of Wright here is more on him

    http://www.stop-obama.org
    Wrights other name is Nii Afotey Oblum II – a Chief in Ghana. When the news about Wright and a book deal came out his daughter said he was in Ghana and couldn’t be reach – guess his ego needed some brush up so he returned to where he is Chief.

  • Fenelon spoke

    I am very well informed voter. It’s nice that the man took the time to write back, but comments such as “You must look at the bigger picture” just annoy me. Why the repeated mantra that if we don’t chose Obama we are not looking at the big picture or what is said elsewhere that we are “low information” voters. Congratulations, that Obama supporter just put me over the edge; I am now going to vote for McCain/Palin. Better a moderate conservative I know (that’s what I think McCain is) that a man who came through the Chicago machine, is a flip-flopper, has terrible friends and associates and just has too many questions left unanswered.

  • Leisa

    Satirical cartoon vs shocking images that are pure character assassination…

  • Dan

    The far left doesn’t operate on rationality. They are the personification of mindless emotionalism, particularly hatred.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    I subscribe to many views that could be called “leftist” and despite the fact that I follow no organized religion, I must confess I find the teachings of Jesus, particularly the bits about feeding the hungry, helping the poor, the aged and the sick–that “whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers” kind of stuff–rather compelling.

    All that said, a so-called “leftist” who does this kind of nastyass, “make-fun” shit is the OPPOSITE of that “Jesus-like” attitude. This isn’t a leftist taking and photoshopping these pictures, really, this is a small, angry, childish, disrespectful asshole who is DESPERATE for attention. This isn’t an “artist,” this is a person who is a FAILURE as an artist, using partisanship to gain attention where her bare-bones work couldn’t do it for her. It’s rather like Britney Spears, flashing her hoo-ha to stay in the headlines when people tired of her nasally, crappy singing.

    This kind of stuff makes the truly compassionate leftists look bad, and it taints them, unfairly, by association.

    A pox on this nitwit.

  • jcm

    correct the total article for the site is
    http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=564

  • Dan

    Actually MM, I think just the opposite. By giving something like this exposure, it helps to show undecided voters just what mindless idiots populate the American left …. who also, not coincidentally, are Barack Obama’s most fervent supporters.

  • Sassy

    Another coward hiding behind a false “hood”!
    I challenge Greenberg to “parody” the men and women in uniform, protecting her sorry ass, and HER artistic license, in the same manner!
    How much COURAGE will SHE display?
    Too damned bad their “protect and serve” pledge extends to scum like this!

  • Dan

    Great. Let ‘em keep talkin’. That only makes undecided white voters in Ohio more likely to vote for McCain.

    Idiots.

  • benny

    hey, did I miss something? that post about equal-pay was scrubbed?

  • hank48188

    I want McCain and Obama both to say they will go after quit a bit of the cash that Franklin Raines got for the FRAUD he put on America with his running of Fannie. The profits on which he received large bonuses were just smoke and mirrors. This situation calls for some common sense justice

  • Indyvoter

    Perry
    It comes down to voting each instance for who is best for the country, regardless of party.

    I’m disgusted, beyond disgusted, and thinking of changing my affiliation to GOP.

    There’s no room for decency in the Obama party. It’s the place for thugs.

  • hank48188

    His speechwriters stole from Bono the “This is Our Moment, This is Our Time” and then last week the took the words from a Tom Toles, Washington Post Cartoon from Sept 5, 2008 almost word-for-word

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Ah, input from a simple-minded dunce!

    Let’s break it down for ya….

    Where’s the MANIPULATED PHOTO in that image?

    See, the New Yorker was commenting, through the “cartoon” (not a photo), on what OTHERS have said, over and over again–true or false–about the Obamas. The New Yorker, by the way, wasn’t “cheering on” or “approving” the characterization, or even suggesting that the image was “OK” or “correct” or proper–it was thrown out there deliberately to INCITE discussion about perceptions circling vis a vis the Obamas.

    That’s not what this idiot is doing–what she’s saying is “Nyaaah, nyaaaah, nyaaaah…I hate McCain, see? He’s a big POOP, so I’m gonna photoshop him and make him look funny, see? Hahahahaha!”

    It’s the action of a petulant teen, drawing a mustache on the picture of the school principal in the foyer of the high school. It’s not “art”–it’s childish venting.

    But then, it takes half a brain to see the key and essential differences in the two presentations, and apparently, you lack that.

    Poor you.

  • LizfromFL

    Just for the record, here is my reply (see post at 9:52:03)

    Dear XXX,
    Thank you for replying, I really didn’t think anyone would.

    Where do I start? First I’ll say I respect your opinion even though I disagree. And speaking of respect, there’s been a huge absence of that during this cycle by Democrats, (not you particularly) for Hillary Clinton and her supporters. I’m sure as a former HRC supporter I don’t need to reiterate what that entailed. But why, oh why, didn’t some of the Party “elders” Dean, etc. speak out against it.? From a woman’s point of view that means a lot since ignoring it meant that it wasn’t important. If it had been a case of true “racism” Dean would’ve and did speak out immediately. Some said “oh it’s just because she’s a Clinton, not because she’s a woman” But look what’s happening to Palin–same thing. Say anything you want about the issues or ability..but it’s not being said that way obviously.

    The feelings of myself and other supporters (not just women, but men and M/F AA’s as well) go way beyond “disappointment.” We not only feel betrayed by our own party, we feel that it has taken on many of the worst attributes of our rivals the Republicans. I don’t believe that there now is a lot of difference between the two. The only thing that separates the Parties any more is character and judgment. If the Executive is in the hands of one who might not hesitate to abuse that power (as did Bush), it doesn’t matter which Party it is. And I believe that Obama would not HESITATE to use that power however he wanted. Again, look at his actions, not his words.

    Words…I really don’t believe anything Obama says. Why should anyone? He has changed on most if not all his policies. He doesn’t want to take a principled stand and then find out it’s unpopular.

    As far as McCain/Palin? Not the greatest choice in the world for sure, but on the character/integrity/judgment issue, they win hands down. And why do you possibly think that Palin as VP is any worse than Obama as POTUS? Please tell me what he has DONE to deserve any more credits in the “experience to lead” column than she has, and she’s only running for VICE-PRESIDENT?

    Finally, regarding the salary disparity: It’s there and it’s proven. You might want to take a look at their website:
    A watchdog group called LegiStorm (http://www.legistorm.com/ posts online the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers. “We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible,” its website explains. Parsing LegiStorm’s official data, gleaned from the Secretary of the Senate, offers a fascinating glimpse at pay equity in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.

    The most recent statistics are for the half-year from Oct. 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008, excluding interns and focusing on full-time personnel. For someone who worked only until, say, last Feb. 29, extrapolating up to six months’ service simplifies this analysis. Doubling these half-year figures illustrates how a year’s worth of Senate employees’ paychecks should look.

    Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.

    Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.

    Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.

    ________
    On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, all other things being equal, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.
    How could this be?

    One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women — much more than men — for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.

    XXX, if you’ve gotten this far, thanks for having the respect to read this. Many of us, myself included, would normally think that “obviously” the Democrat would have the better record in this area. What we’ve found out is, sadly, our Party is just as bad if not worse, and it’s not just “a woman’s issue.”

    It was not an easy decision for me and others but believe me millions of us will be voting McCain/Palin–we have not left our Party, our Party has left us. It should die and out of the ashes be formed anew.

  • Postmaster

    Jill Greenberg: you give a whole new meaning to the phrase ‘lipstick on a pig’.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    Jill Greenberg is not an artist.

    let’s be very clear about this.

    she is a propagandist with very little individual creativity.

    ms greenberg is a fashion photographer/ artist wannabe.

    a phoney media shill, and not a very innovative one at that.

    she gives real artists a bad name.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    For those who do not know the full story behind Jill Greenberg: This is not her first controversy.

    Her first controversy was a few years back when she harassed toddlers by taking away their candy and stripping them so she could take photos of them crying and screaming.

    She then slapped anti-Bush propaganda on these photos and called it art.

    She is a sociopath.

  • Gloria

    I am not going to review my sub to THE ATLANTIC. The money spent I will donate to women’s health. This magazine just promotes the same boring left wing ideology and is very biased against the working class. To them we are just specimens.
    Greenberg’s lack of ethics and her assertion that the Atlantic knew (she should have told McCain she was going to use his photo on her site)–convince me that paying good money to subscribe is tacit acceptance of underhanded shifty sleaze.

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    From todays Whaddya Expect, Ferchristsake Dept.:

    Damn, you’d think that the Atlantic was infiltrated by liberals.

  • hank48188

    I do hope the people of Europe wake up

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    To be fair, I believe the Atlantic is looking into suing her over this.

  • Rob in Chicago

    “Toughness” is morally neutral. There can be right toughness and wrong toughness, but Mama always said that two wrongs don’t make a right. The Democratic candidates problems have more often been a presence or perception of weakness, rather than an absense of toughness. Personally, I think that smart and clean toughness will be able to triumph over dumb and sleazy toughness. The Democratic candidates may want to try that for a change.

  • hootnannie

    I heard that Greenberg also doctored a photo to show an ape pooping on McCain’s head. These cultural far-lefties are mentally ill. Their private thoughts are depraved, and they’re screwed up enough not to realize that such antics hurt their messiah and deliver votes to his opponent. They hate Christians because we condemn their perversions, but they laud Islam as a foil. But if they lived under Sharia law, they would face execution for their deeds! And now that it appears obvious that Bobo is losing, they’re becoming completely unhinged and vicious.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Yeah, right. It took him about as long as it took George Bush.

  • Steve

    Artists do have special freedoms and liberties, but they have to take extra care that they don’t abuse these freedoms.

    The pictures Greenberg doctored to demonize McCain are crossing the line. This is just propaganda and character assassination.

  • Rob in Chicago

    Patrick:

    With all of the changes and different variety of “Oreos” (the cookies), can this appellation even be used as a slur anymore ? What about those mint green Oreos, with the mint green colored filling ? Are those Black on the outside and Martian on the inside ? Or Black on the outside but envious and wishing that they could be something else on the inside ? How about the chocolate Oreos ? Are those the “true” or authentic Oreos (but only if they can produce certified copies of their birth records) ? And don’t even get me started about the peanut butter creme filled Oreos. This racial steroetyping can be so confusing ;)

  • Amalia

    was it bloodthirst, or was it just bad makeup on a clown? that’s always
    how I have taken it.

  • Rob in Chicago

    Disgusted:

    While I haven’t hacked into their phone systems or anything like that, I can pretty much assure you that what you have described above is exactly what did occur, but in Chicago, Mayor Daley controls the Water Department, and they have added Obama Kool-Aid to the City’s water supply, so there will be quite a few people who won’t “get it.” My family drinks bottled water.

  • tzada

    Sandra Bernhard issued a blistering warning to Sarah Palin during a performance of her new one-woman show.

    The Republican V.P. nom would be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she enters Manhattan, Bernhard said. Palin is said to be making a campaign stop in New York next week.

    and then she said this:

    “Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s–t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b—h! Don’t you f–kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls–t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b—h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You whore in your f–kin’ cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bullshit moment.”

    “Call the s*** in and tell them what I said tonight,” she says, to laughs and cheers from the audience.

    According to news reports, the D.C. Jewish Community Center is supposedly very happy with their Bernhard show, and partied with Bernhard on opening night. Evidently, according to News Busters, they’re in tune with her right-bashing rage:
    We’re proud of our producing — proud of Sandra’s sense of timing — taking the fight out to the house and to the street beyond, channeling so much of our rage and frustration at the bizarre recent twists of fortune since Karl Rove trotted out Sarah Palin for John McCain to briefly meet and then get in bed with.Sandra’s face is hanging 10 feet tall in a banner over the DCJCC steps and we’re proud that she’s a new emblem and ambassador for our theater and our center. She’s not the only one who represents us. But her large heart, her generous talent, and her big mouth are all a big part of who we are
    http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/09/19/2008-09-19_sandra_bernhard_issues_gang_rape_warning-2.html

    http://blackpoliticthought.bustablog.com/sandra-bernhard-says-gov-sarah-palin-would-be-gang-raped-by-blacks-in-manhattan/

  • C.S.

    Wasn’t disagreeing with what you said, the “you” referred to voters who buy the Soretoro/Obama hype – and there is still way too many of them. I was just trying to point out that every aspect of his administration would not make us more secure or safe.

    The propaganda out there is fierce and tough to cut through and we don’t have much time to counter it. Frankly, this must be how it felt to be against “the one” in Germany in the 1930s.

  • athy

    Joan of art-
    do you have a link to photographer’s website where the ‘photshopped’ photos of Sen McCain have been posted?

    Excerpt from your post…
    (P.S. Good post)

    “Now, there’s a cop out. But wait, she didn’t stop there. She abused her professional access to McCain to shoot and photo shop additional photos of him and post to her website. Among other offensive images, her McCain portfolio includes one of him with blood coming out of a shark toothed mouth and the title “I AM A BLOODTHIRSTY WARMONGER”.

  • tzada

    What case in Texas? You have a link?

    Did any of you catch Obama 12 second ad in Texas during the primaries? The one about the USA government rounding Muslim families up in the middle of the night? It was on during the primaries. He may have been aiming it at Hispanic/Latina/Chicano but putting in Muslim instead. A two for one ad?

  • tzada

    ‘Blacks Against Obama’ Interrupt Campaign Rally

    “Lets get back to work. Settle down everybody, lets get back to work.”

    http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html

  • luvtruth

    jill greenberg’s work is truly despicable. My favorite line: “I am growing weary of pacifists who practice their own style of violence.” What hypocrits!

  • athy

    silverfox-
    There is a relatively new? field out there called
    “Social Justice Art”. It is a combination of art & politics/social justice issues.

    Kind of like Journalism where you have independent journalist vs advocacy journalists (Naomi Klein is good example of an advocacy journalist).

    In any case, these artists/journalists have opinions and our country still has first ammendment rights (Thank goodness!) so legally photographer has freedom to produce whatever he/she wants- CREATIVE Expression /freedom of speech. HOWEVER….

    in my opinion, based upon common sense, the public needs to be aware of the fact that the artist holds particular ideology. If you try to pass off an ‘ideological-based’ piece of artwork into the commercial arena -AND-the media in which this artwork is presented is not known for satire or comedy or anything along those lines-AND…AND…you do not properly introduce the subtle intent of the message of the artwork to the unknowing public …then you are walking a razor-thin line between facts and propaganda.

    Our mainstream media crosses over this line constantly-MSNBC,CBS, you know the gang…’

    The New Yorker magazine cover is an example. The caricatures were well drawn and the New Yorker magazine is known for placing this type of artwork on its cover. It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that this cover was a satire.

    However,the Atlantic photograph is a different story. The ‘satire? political statement? is so SUBTLE for many, that the photographer’s ideological bent ‘slips’ into the viewers’s heads without their realizing it.

    I remember thinking-as I saw some of those magazine covers in the supermarkets- how ‘desperate, nervous, eager to please Palin & her family were made to loook in those photographs while the Obama family was made to appear ‘majestic, regal,intelligent, down to earth.

    Make no mistake about this whatsoever. This was done intentionally & consistently across the board.

    This is All the doing of the photographers and editors AND possibly pressure from the advertisers and others.

    the unknowing reader reads /sees this artist’s work-thinking it is objective in nature-when it’s not. Its propaganda.

    We need to be vigilant to protect our first ammendment rights BUT we also need to be vigilant to shed light on propaganda so that the public can recognize it when they see it.

  • John House

    I have never seen America so divided.

    Ditto. I thought this was 2008, not 1958.

  • John House

    I would rather have Palin as the most powerful woman on earth than Barry Obama.

    Just sayin’.

  • John House

    “Nyaaah, nyaaaah, nyaaaah…I hate McCain, see? He’s a big POOP, so I’m gonna photoshop him and make him look funny, see? Hahahahaha!”

    LOL, sorry, that was funny. “He’s a big POOP!” LOL!

    OBAMA is the big poop, IMHO.

  • Joan of Art

    hi everyone, Joan of Art here. thanks for all your great comments. A lot of people have inquired about the images. Jill Greenberg has taken them down from her personal website, pending legal investigation.

    but some of the images are still up in other places. i suggest googling Jill Greenberg. You can see sevearl articles and images that way. be forewarned. some of them are pretty atrocious

  • John House

    As a multi-tiered artist (I do all sorts of work from photography to logo design) who also works with Photoshop, I can understand where Jill is coming from. I can’t say that I myself am entirely innocent; I have ‘shopped Bush as Hitler (and ended up on the cover of a local newspaper during the protests of the 2000 election because of it).

    HOWEVER. I was not hired to do so. It was of my own political prerogative to create the image and market it for my own purposes.

    What Jill did here was pretty much tantamount to breach of contract and misrepresentation. Her work is (was) highly regarded in the entertainment world. When she was hired to do the McCain job, it was under the auspices that her work would be of the same quality and magnitude as the rest of her portfolio shows. Hell, she did a really nice photo of Arnold S (our Governator), so why would The Atlantic believe she would do anything less? The fact is, she ADMITS to doing “less”, and not only that, she MOCKS her client afterwards with “See, you shouldn’t have hired me, because of my political leanings you should’ve known that I wouldn’t touch up and photoshop the photos as I do all my other photos” (BTW, I’ve seen her doing her “work”; ANY moron with Photoshop and a Wacom tablet can do what she does to photos…her photos are nothing more than just regular photos with heavy photoshopping effects; and actually, if you’re really good with the mouse, you don’t even need a Wacom tablet to do what she does). Another big problem is that she automatically ties in McCain with the Bush Administration because he’s a Republican. Way to go for seeing people for who they are and what they do rather than playing partisan politics.

    But I digress. What Jill has done to the business could possibly be irreparable, because now potential clients will be extra wary about who they hire. I am anti-Bush and pro-McCain. Will that be seen as a hindrance to someone who wants me to draw up an Obama illustration? I sure hope not, because as much as I really despise Obama, I have drawn him with fairness and accuracy and without complaint. That’s called being professional about your work.

    …Anyone need an artist? LOL… >_>

  • John House

    P.S. I forgot to mention this, but this isn’t any different than what Chris Matthews(?) did (someone in the MSM did it, I forget who) when they put horns and a tail on a picture of Hillary and aired it on national TV. It’s stupid, petty, juvenile and unprofessional.

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