Comments on: And Now For The Rest Of The Story http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1392345 Retired Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:13:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1392345 What are Imams in America saying about this in their services?  Is there a preponderance of opinion?  Where does the Qur;an and Hadith come down on honor killings?  I urge you to look these things up for yourselves and the reach an informed decision. What are Imams in America saying about this in their services?  Is there a preponderance of opinion?  Where does the Qur;an and Hadith come down on honor killings?  I urge you to look these things up for yourselves and the reach an informed decision.

]]> By: memi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1392036 memi Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:38:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1392036 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy...THANKS for including these vids... Please keep us posted if there's any NEWS on this disturbing story... I like the Portugal Cardina's warning to women to "Think Twice before marrying  a Muslim...cause only Allah know what can happen to women"...!!!! Great advice!! Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy…THANKS for including these vids…
Please keep us posted if there’s any NEWS on this disturbing story…
I like the Portugal Cardina’s warning to women to
“Think Twice
before marrying  a Muslim…cause only Allah know what can happen to women”…!!!!

Great advice!!

]]> By: memi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1392033 memi Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:32:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1392033 Aqsa Parvez of Ontario, Canada was murdered by her father and brother who strangled her because she refused to wear the hijab! Honor Killings deserve harsher punishment--ELECTRIC CHAIR! And according to statistics, most of these "Fathers" are INCEST PERPETRATORS, as has been said for the Said girls...These monsters must be hunted down and shot! Said Yasser monster is probably up north in Canada.  Their border is "porous" and they are far easier on the moslems there... Aqsa Parvez of Ontario, Canada was murdered by her father and brother who strangled her because she refused to wear the hijab!

Honor Killings deserve harsher punishment–ELECTRIC CHAIR! And according to statistics, most of these “Fathers” are INCEST PERPETRATORS, as has been said for the Said girls…These monsters must be hunted down and shot!

Said Yasser monster is probably up north in Canada.  Their border is “porous” and they are far easier on the moslems there…

]]> By: timmy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391957 timmy Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:11:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391957 Just when you thought this muslim thing is getting out of hand.... check this out.... a marriage taking according to the Koran. This will make you puke your guts out.... what a shameful thing to do.  Can you think of anything like this.... marrying your little girls to men 10 times their age... WHY? WHY? and WHY are we letting them built a cultural center in NYC ground zero to do this....?????? Just when you thought this muslim thing is getting out of hand…. check this out…. a marriage taking according to the Koran. This will make you puke your guts out…. what a shameful thing to do.  Can you think of anything like this…. marrying your little girls to men 10 times their age… WHY? WHY? and WHY are we letting them built a cultural center in NYC ground zero to do this….??????

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391824 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:35:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391824 Whew, thanks for that, propertius.  I am glad I didn't give that impression. And I hear you - yes, Islam is on track to be the largest religion in the world, so there's that.  Unfortunately, just like with Christianity, the ones from whom we hear the most are the fringe elements.  Though in the case of Islam, that includes extremists who wish to do us harm, unfortunately.  While we cannot paint an entire religion with a broad brush, we also cannot deny that there are some, even a few, who will stop at nothing to attack us.  Perhaps it is that we don't hear from the moderates enough.  Not that they aren't saying anything, just that it isn't publicized, know what I mean?  Anyway, thanks for the clarification - I appreciate it! Whew, thanks for that, propertius.  I am glad I didn’t give that impression.

And I hear you – yes, Islam is on track to be the largest religion in the world, so there’s that.  Unfortunately, just like with Christianity, the ones from whom we hear the most are the fringe elements.  Though in the case of Islam, that includes extremists who wish to do us harm, unfortunately.  While we cannot paint an entire religion with a broad brush, we also cannot deny that there are some, even a few, who will stop at nothing to attack us. 

Perhaps it is that we don’t hear from the moderates enough.  Not that they aren’t saying anything, just that it isn’t publicized, know what I mean? 

Anyway, thanks for the clarification – I appreciate it!

]]> By: propertius http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391818 propertius Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:23:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391818 I know you didn't, Amy, and I apologize if I gave a different impression. I should've phrased things somewhat differently to make that clearf.However, some of the commenters on this thread pretty obviously feel otherwise and are perfectly willing to condemn a billion people because of the actions of a few evil psychopaths who cloak their depravity in" religious"  terms. I know you didn’t, Amy, and I apologize if I gave a different impression. I should’ve phrased things somewhat differently to make that clearf.However, some of the commenters on this thread pretty obviously feel otherwise and are perfectly willing to condemn a billion people because of the actions of a few evil psychopaths who cloak their depravity in” religious”  terms.

]]> By: gingy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391748 gingy Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:58:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391748 Rev. Amy, As an American woman, honor killings and mutilation strike a deep chord.  It is not just because there is nothing that justifies what was done.  The barbaric acts were perpetrated on them solely because they were born of the female gender.  And, though not physical,  so is sexism/misogyny in this country.  It is meant, just like honor killings/mutilation, to keep us in our place.  It is our version of the burka.  Sexism and misogyny are so prevalent and so melded into the very fabric of this country, that it is just accepted.  For me, that is why what these women in the article you posted (and other similar stories) is particularly heinous.  Rev. Amy,
As an American woman, honor killings and mutilation strike a deep chord.  It is not just because there is nothing that justifies what was done.  The barbaric acts were perpetrated on them solely because they were born of the female gender.  And, though not physical,  so is sexism/misogyny in this country.  It is meant, just like honor killings/mutilation, to keep us in our place.  It is our version of the burka.  Sexism and misogyny are so prevalent and so melded into the very fabric of this country, that it is just accepted.  For me, that is why what these women in the article you posted (and other similar stories) is particularly heinous. 

]]> By: Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391650 Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:52:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391650 Very important story, though extremely painful to read and watch!   What always makes me wonder is how anyone could worship a "god" who would believe doing something like this is the right thing to do.  That's what misguided, hate filled humans do, not what a true god would do. Religions can be so twisted by the humans who practice them.  I am sure the real creator god is heart broken. Very important story, though extremely painful to read and watch!   What always makes me wonder is how anyone could worship a “god” who would believe doing something like this is the right thing to do.  That’s what misguided, hate filled humans do, not what a true god would do. Religions can be so twisted by the humans who practice them.  I am sure the real creator god is heart broken.

]]> By: kafir http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391647 kafir Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:31:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391647 Sigh! Sigh! If this man coming from Egypt had learnt from Warren Buffet instead of the retarded religion, they would be living happily as a family. Sigh! Knowledge is power and determines happiness or sorrow! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2-syAt_HA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2-syAt_HA</a> Sigh! Sigh! If this man coming from Egypt had learnt from Warren Buffet instead of the retarded religion, they would be living happily as a family.

Sigh! Knowledge is power and determines happiness or sorrow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2-syAt_HA

]]> By: kenoshamarge http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391618 kenoshamarge Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:36:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391618 There is no "honor" in a father killing his children. None. Quite the contrary. A father is supposed to protect his children with his very life if necessary. That' s what honorable men do. That's what honorable men of all religions have done all through history. Any culture, any religion, any "man" that believes there is ANY honor in killing your children has no place in decent society. This "man" and I use the term only for lack of a better one, should be hunted down like the rabid animal that he is, tried for his crime(s) and if found guilty spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. I suspect he would have to be kept in isolation because even the dregs in prison would be apt to <em>take out</em> a man who killed his own children. There is no hell deep enough, hot enough, vile enough for trash like this. There is no “honor” in a father killing his children. None. Quite the contrary. A father is supposed to protect his children with his very life if necessary. That’ s what honorable men do. That’s what honorable men of all religions have done all through history. Any culture, any religion, any “man” that believes there is ANY honor in killing your children has no place in decent society.

This “man” and I use the term only for lack of a better one, should be hunted down like the rabid animal that he is, tried for his crime(s) and if found guilty spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.

I suspect he would have to be kept in isolation because even the dregs in prison would be apt to take out a man who killed his own children.

There is no hell deep enough, hot enough, vile enough for trash like this.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391603 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:01:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391603 I did not do so in my post, and as I have said, all kinds of atrocities have been committed in the name of religion.  As that was indefensible, so is this.  Hirsi Ali is adamant that this IS a part of Islam, at least a segment of it, an she ought to know.  She still has to have boyguards - in the UNITED STATES - because of her opposition to "honor killings" and Sharia Law.  So, no one is painting Islam with a broad brush, but to deny there is a sect that supports this kind of thing does nothing to stop it, and I would argue, condones it by silence. I did not do so in my post, and as I have said, all kinds of atrocities have been committed in the name of religion.  As that was indefensible, so is this.  Hirsi Ali is adamant that this IS a part of Islam, at least a segment of it, an she ought to know.  She still has to have boyguards – in the UNITED STATES – because of her opposition to “honor killings” and Sharia Law. 

So, no one is painting Islam with a broad brush, but to deny there is a sect that supports this kind of thing does nothing to stop it, and I would argue, condones it by silence.

]]> By: betty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391461 betty Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:34:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391461 Why is it that the bastards don't have to kill themselves too?  Why do the honorable killers flee?   Their own life is so precious to themselves.   Are they honor killings based on religious beliefs or just the fruit of an agreement between men to keep women in line?   If your wife gets out of line and you don't beat her then my wife will think she can get out of line too - so in order be considered a man at the mosque you have to take part in the subjugation of women.    I remember when I was young there was a nasty term "pussy whipped" for men who other men felt cared too much for their wifes or girlfriends.  I we really do pull out of Afghanistan I hope we can find a way to get the women and girls out before we go.  Leave the teleban there alone to bugger each other. Why is it that the bastards don’t have to kill themselves too?  Why do the honorable killers flee?   Their own life is so precious to themselves.   Are they honor killings based on religious beliefs or just the fruit of an agreement between men to keep women in line?   If your wife gets out of line and you don’t beat her then my wife will think she can get out of line too – so in order be considered a man at the mosque you have to take part in the subjugation of women.    I remember when I was young there was a nasty term “pussy whipped” for men who other men felt cared too much for their wifes or girlfriends. 

I we really do pull out of Afghanistan I hope we can find a way to get the women and girls out before we go.  Leave the teleban there alone to bugger each other.

]]> By: propertius http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391460 propertius Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:30:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391460 <i> His treatment of his daughters is misogyny, plain and simple. That goes for these other men who have killed their own daughters, sisters, wives, or girlfriends in the name of “honor killings.”</i> Absolute true. <i>Whether it is religious in nature, as Hirsi Ali claims, or cultural in nature, as Afshan Quershi claims, the outcome is the same. </i> There is, of course a third possibility: that he is an evil, woman-hating psychopath who hides behind religion to "justify" his vile deeds. Amy, in 2007 there were 758,000 violent crimes committed against femalesover the age of 12 by family members. There were 1636 murders of women by close family members.  I do not know how many of those murders were committed by Muslims, but I *do* know that murders like this occur in every religious group, social class, and ethnic group in America. Citing this horrendous crime as an indictment against Islam as a whole isn't any more valid than citing these as an indictment of Christianity: http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23344/amora-bain-carson-murdered http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/10/bodies.found/index.html  His treatment of his daughters is misogyny, plain and simple. That goes for these other men who have killed their own daughters, sisters, wives, or girlfriends in the name of “honor killings.”

Absolute true.

Whether it is religious in nature, as Hirsi Ali claims, or cultural in nature, as Afshan Quershi claims, the outcome is the same.

There is, of course a third possibility: that he is an evil, woman-hating psychopath who hides behind religion to “justify” his vile deeds. Amy, in 2007 there were 758,000 violent crimes committed against femalesover the age of 12 by family members. There were 1636 murders of women by close family members.  I do not know how many of those murders were committed by Muslims, but I *do* know that murders like this occur in every religious group, social class, and ethnic group in America.

Citing this horrendous crime as an indictment against Islam as a whole isn’t any more valid than citing these as an indictment of Christianity:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23344/amora-bain-carson-murdered
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/10/bodies.found/index.html

]]> By: kafir http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391423 kafir Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:54:40 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391423 Our deepest condolences to the mother who lost her two lovely daughters. This is a real tragedy for her. Every sensible person would feel the pain for her for such a loss of dear ones! Islam is evil. Islam would do despicably anything to dominate the world, including honor killing. <a href="http://www.islamisofthedevil.com/blog/2010/08/warning-women-everywhere-dont-marry-moslem" rel="nofollow">Warning for women everywhere: Don't Marry a Moslem</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATh8azfQsA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATh8azfQsA</a> Our deepest condolences to the mother who lost her two lovely daughters. This is a real tragedy for her.

Every sensible person would feel the pain for her for such a loss of dear ones!

Islam is evil. Islam would do despicably anything to dominate the world, including honor killing.

Warning for women everywhere: Don’t Marry a Moslem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATh8azfQsA

]]> By: Annie Soda Cracker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49027/and-now-for-the-rest-of-the-story/#comment-1391406 Annie Soda Cracker Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:43:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49027#comment-1391406 The answer, Candymarl is:  Never. The answer, Candymarl is:  Never.

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