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Barack Obama, A Drunken Drive By?

How can such a supposedly smart person be so goddamn dumb? Is he hitting the firewater? There is no denying that Barack did well at Harvard Law. So we know that he is not a moron or devoid of intelligence. But book smarts ain’t common sense and on that count Obama is a big zero. His latest gaffe is his decision to spend Friday night doing the Muslim thing:

President Obama will host an iftar — the special evening meal observed during Ramadan — on Friday night in the White House dining room.

Obama participated in a similar gathering last year.

Celebrations like iftar dinners “remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings,” Obama wrote in a statement Wednesday.

“Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality … a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.”

Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?

You have got to be shitting me! I understand the need for some political correctness. But let’s not make up facts and pander like an aging whore waiting on the dock beside a ship full of horny sailors. Muslims were irrelevant to America until the tragic attacks of 9-11. Islam is not mainstream America. It is, at best, a sidelight. Please, cite me just one example of “great Muslim” moments in American history. Fire away kids.

It would be one thing if Obama was consistent in upholding religious principles. But even on that point he’s been inconsistent. Last year and this year he has declined to hold an interfaith service in the White House observing a National Day of Prayer:

In 2009, President Obama decided not to host an ecumenical service in the White House in observance of the National Day of Prayer as his predecessor, George W. Bush, had. However, he did not, as claimed in 2009 (and again in 2010) “cancel” the National Day of Prayer; instead, rather than holding a White House service, President Obama continued the tradition of issuing a presidential proclamation designating the National Day of Prayer and opted to observe the occasion privately.

If your point is that you don’t want to publicly acknowledge religion, fine. But then be consistent. Barack is far from consistent.

Barack has more problems than feeding the rumors that he’s a closet Muslim. He’s also a vacation monster and clueless to boot (according to the Swamp from the Chicago Tribune):

Last month the White House announced that the first family would visit the Gulf of Mexico for a vacation. It’s a trip, as Christi Parsons reported at the time, intended in part to “help ward off criticism that, while the president encourages others to go to the Gulf, he will spend his vacation among the elite set on the island of Martha’s Vineyard.”

The White House has just sent new details of that trip, revealing that the Obama family will have spent barely more than one day in the area when all is said and done. . . .

From scheduled arrival of Air Force One Saturday to the time it departs on Sunday, the Obamas will have spent 26 hours and 50 minutes on the ground in the Panama City area.

TWENTY SIX HOURS IS NOT A VACATION. IT IS A DRIVE BY. Barack and his team of morons just do not understand. Talking up the Gulf as a vacation spot and then making a superficial visit and gesture before you head off to the elite environs of Martha’s Vineyard is totally, completely clueless. It feeds the image of Barack and Michelle as arrogant, noveau riche, elitists. Not exactly the kind of meme one needs when the nation’s economy is tanking, unemployment is hovering around 10% and the nation remains at war.

Barack and Michelle cannot blame the Republicans for this one. This is a self-inflicted wound.

  • sowsear

    Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?

    Who, what, where, when?

  • EllenD

    Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?

    Name one.

    But this does give Obama a chance to weigh in on the wrong side of the Ground Zero mosque,
    That makes 3 out of 3 things he didn’t have to open his mouth about that he decided to give his opinion on.
    This guy is a moron.

  • sybilll

    Added without comment:  “Obama defends ground zero mosque plans”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38698500

  • Jim S

    Maybe he considers the attack on the Twin Towers a contribution or perhaps even the mosque which, by the way, he just said that they should build near ground zero. The man’s a cancer to this country and I hope that after the next elections (we are going to have elections, aren’t we?) he will be politically neutralized (had to be careful there).

  • EllenD

    There is no denying that Barack did well at Harvard Law.

    Well. let me be the first to question that. Where is the proof he did well at Harvard Law?
    Because he was a affermative action editor with no paper trail?
    Because he graduated? They don’t fail you at that level you know. Once you get in you can print your own diploma.

  • EllenD

    There is no denying that Barack did well at Harvard Law. 
     
    Well. let me be the first to question that. Where is the proof he did well at Harvard Law? 
    Because he was a affirmative action editor with no paper trail? 
    Because he graduated? They don’t fail you at that level you know. Once you get in you can print your own diploma.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Muslims wrote the Bill of Rights. Muslims wrote the Constitution. Muslims decided that that we should be a Republic. Oh wait, no they didn’t.

    I got nothin’.

  • EllenD

    lol Candy.
    And I no longer think he is stupid ot tone deaf.
    The truth is that he is President now and just does not give a damn.

  • Clara

    The flight to Panama City is nothing more than a token trip.  Let’s see just how much they’re out and about mingling with the little people.

  • jbjd

    EllenD said, Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?  “Name one.”

    Okay, how about, more Muslims have been President, than Jews?

  • jbjd

    EllenD said, Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?  “Name one.” 
     
    Okay, how about, more Muslims have been President, than Jews?

  • Larry Johnson

    Ouch!!  Too funny.

  • arabella trefoil

    Obama and Michelle hate America. It’s just that simple. Now that he and his lovely wife are installed in the White House, they will do whatever they want. Period.

  • Tony Stark

    The fact is Obama is Alfred E. Neuman in flesh and blood. The dismal reality is that a majority of bamboozled Americans elected him into office, and now all of us have to suffer until 2012.

  • ces

    Next thing ya know, he’ll move his office to Dearborn…
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    (look it up)

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    He’s a fucking muslim. pure and simple.  I would not be surprised if He was a tojan horse terror cell.  burkas and clitorectemys are here to stay. Happy Sharia day!!!!

  • MG

    Well… they did take down the twin towers and killed over 3,000 innocent unarmed people.  AND now their building a mosque at the site of the murders disregarding the feelings of the families that lost their love ones. They also decieved and lied about who own the property etc…
    I think that is what O is tlking about.

  • sybilll

    I get it. 

  • HARP
  • sowsear

    O is thinking about the “Big Lie”. If it’s big enough, everyone will believe it.  Out of his mouth into Allah’s ears.

  • Armymom

    I thought Obama said, according to Bagdad Gibbs, that he wasn’t going to “inject” himself into something “local”?

  • sowsear

    MO and BO are going to meet with business leaders…don’t know if the family will touch the water or eat any seafood.

  • HARP

    Now what was Barry’s objection to Israel building homes on it’s own land?

  • Olivia1998

    He just didn’t back he demanded it.  This white House is using our own constitution to cut off our freedoms.  There is limits to freedoms in any country. That happens when it infringes on your freedom.

  • Olivia1998

    He just didn’t back he demanded it.  This white House is using our own constitution to cut off our freedoms.  There is limits to freedoms in any country. That happens when it infringes on your freedom.

  • sowsear

    When Mo gets her burqa, let me know…

  • Olivia1998

    good one Harp.  I guess when your the leader of the world royalty so to speak you can demand anything.

  • sowsear

    nothing more than a token trip. 

    Just taking the family “car’ out for a spin..What’s a few more hundreds of thousands …

  • AbigailAdams

    I really can’t tell whether he’s brain cell challenged or if he has some sort of fascination with the spectacular, flaming disaster he’s making of his presidency.  Or maybe he believes that because he got “elected” in ’08 that he’s just going to trot out the same strategy and tactics and let it rip again in ’12.  I mean, here’s Kaine telling everyone that the D’s have a good shot at the mid-terms and that the tea party is making it easier for them in November.  Huh?

  • HARP

    They have been obvious for a very long time.

  • rosa

    he kept his mouth shut when the Iranians were protesting and dying in the street .I think that was a teachable moment

  • Olivia1998

    Yes it was obvious.  Anyone who lifted up that big rock in Chicago seen it.  You had to push the press away first but the truth was there.  Watch the left wing MSM go to town now.   Their leader has spoke.

  • HARP

    I am convinced that he is not running in 2012 or he has figured out a way to cancel elections.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    I’m so gullible. I keep thinking he can’t possibly do anything else that would surprise me. And then he does.

    Why isn’t impeachment an option? If the Repubs could drag Bill Clinton through the process, there must be a way to go after That One.

    I can’t wait two more years.

  • HARP

    From Audacity of Hope:

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

  • Olivia1998

    It’s a crazy thought but I think something is up.  Why keep going against the American people

  • HARP

    Why isn’t impeachment an option?

    Cause he is not mentally fit to stand trial.

  • Olivia1998

    I just heard Kaine on Greta telling her exactly that

  • Olivia1998

    That’s in his book.  I didn’t read it myslef but a friend of mine wasted her dollars and bought it.

  • Olivia1998

    That’s in his book.  I didn’t read it myself but a friend of mine wasted her dollars and bought it.

  • Patience

    I’m personally not religiously observant.  It wouldn’t bother me if we had a POTUS who wasn’t particularly religious.  The Golden Rule is more important to me.  But to have a POTUS who favors Islam especially at this time is beyond bewildering.

    Don’t forget that “Afro-centric” Trinity United (POTUS’ long-term Chicago church) has honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.  And I seem to recall that Nation of Islam guards protected presidential candidate Obama until he qualified for Secret Service protection.

    I’ve also read that the First Family never joined a church in Washington, DC.  All this, in addition to hosting Ramadan dinners at the WH, leaves little doubt about where the POTUS’ religious sympathies may lie. 

    He’s just afraid to come out of the closet.  And Muslim garb would hinder the FLOTUS’ Hollywood-makeover style.    

  • Olivia1998

    BINGO!

  • Dario

    Obama is not religious, but I believe he leans towards the Muslim tradition.  I undertand it too.  The only close relationship he had with a guy in his childhood was the Mr. Saetoro when he lived in Indonesia.  I think one reason he’s postponed going to Indonesia, is that he doesn’t want the press to bring into focus those realy years.  Whatever.  I don’t care about his religious crap.  I want him to do his job.

  • HARP

    ANYTHING to cover that botox makeover.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    I thought the same thing.  We’ll never know.  He’s supposed to be a “constitutional scholar”…well, maybe so.  He does seem to know how to subvert it…but then I suppose you could study up on Alinsky and get that.

  • Dario

    I thought that was G.W.

  • Geoff C.. The Saltine

    iftar: “the special evening meal”. Breaking a fast.  MO has not been on that plan, nor has barry. Loupster for both of them. (served at the Hungry Heifer, on you keep the hoof night) I hope he has the “special” ramadan runs tomorrow.  What next a PLO burger, North Korean kim chee.    I am so pissed.       Fuck you!!!        Barack H. Obama               I know that the only ones that will see this is NQ and my wife, Sorry for the strong words.   Bush made me do it.   What next that will not be reported on by the press, or will this be praised by them. 

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    He doesn’t give a damn…about America and Americans but he sure as hell has no problem showing his loyalties otherwise.  He is and has been practicing Taqiyya, the Muslim practice of lying to your enemies, hiding your true intent.  I can only hope this backfires on him bigtime.  Does he think we’re idiots?

    As for the vacations…they are beyond ridiculous.  This is the only area where they are transparent.  They can’t contain their nouveau riche desires to be thought of as upper crust.  Sorry, Baby Doc, I doubt you’ll make the social register.  Low class guttersnipes.

  • sowsear

    He’s working on inciting a rebellion, so he can quash it.. No stinkin elections necessary.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Squatters.

  • inconsiderable wretch

    Yes, EllenD, I was curious about how anyone could know what sort of student he was at Harvard, since all the documents about his education are said to have been legally sealed.  He doesn’t seem very smart to me.  When I was at graduate school all the professors could speak coherently and with a mastery of the subject without teleprompters.  His job as instructor at Chicago is a disgrace to that great institution, and we still don’t know who brought pressure to bear on the trustees to mandate his appointment (probably the same interested parties who arranged for his wife’s three hundred thousand a year position at the university medical school).

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    That would actually be the only advantage.  We wouldn’t have to see her ugly mug again.

  • sowsear

    Who in the House majority would have the guts to bring up his impeachment? Not a peep among Dems against anything he’s done so far….

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    I saw his book in the local library…Franken’s too.  I put them behind the others on the shelf.  No one should be subjected to their propaganda.  Cruelty.

  • Olivia1998

    I don’t care about him doing his job I want him voted out, impeached

  • sowsear

    Someone has also said that a Muslim may not bring his non-believer wife to a Muslim country.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    He’s just afraid to come out of the closet.  In more ways than one!

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    What will the Muslims do when they find out he’s gay?   Shameful that he’s hidden that.

  • Daisy Mae

    I sent this pronouncement of Oblah’s around.  I got back responses immediately about his contempt, that it is a big nail in the Dim. coffin, that he doesn’t want to run again, that he is suicidal.  I see this as really riling up the citizens, who are already opposed to the mosque.

  • vanroth

    Did he not once say in an interview that the Muslim call to prayer was “one of the most beautiful sounds ever” and then proceed to sing it impeccably ? I forget which publication carried the quote but it did surface during the primaries. Don’t be too surprised if he turns up with a megaphone making  the first call to prayer when that Ground Zero mosque opens.

  • sowsear

    Doctor doctor, please Oh, the mess I’m in Doctor doctor, please

  • EllenD

     Also than women.  Ouch again

  • HARP

    Why are we surprised?

  • sowsear

    Maybe that’s why he wants the Muslim Center built in NYC, next to the gay bar, You Mecca Me Hot.

  • Daisy Mae

    Very good one, Harp.  Obobo shows his contempt for us.

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    I wish he was sucidal.  I would dance for joy to see him blast his stinking brains out over the oval office.  I hate this piece of shit.

  • getfitnow

    It would be historic!

  • HARP

    Hmmmm….Gives new meaning to ram a dan.

  • Hank

    It’s a slap in the face to so many people, are we not at war because of the tragedy at ground zero?  So we are at war in afghanistan so that they don’t fight us in the U.S.  Yet, we are funding iman to go on a tour.  With what Obama stated today we will most likely be funding some kind of portion of the mosque with taxpayer money.  He must of had a very rough childhood growing up, not that he has grown up.  GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

  • TeakWoodKite

    That’s what I was going to sat EllenD. In fact I would say he was just the opposite. While at the review he didn’t do anything to distingush himself academically. Zilch. Him and Gates were roomates so to speak.

    There is no denying that Barack did well at Harvard Law.

    Ba hum bug. :)

  • sowsear

    the impeachment or the rebellion?

  • Olivia1998

    you take that to the bank.  It’ll be tax payers dollars.  This is part of your stimulus money.  Maybe we should ask the government for money to build a New Christian Church on the other side of ground zero.  What do you think?

  • HARP

    Little is known regarding the founder of the Ground Zero Mosque Faisal Abdul
    Rauf or his views on Islam. Many view him moderate and others connect him to
    his father’s affiliation to the Muslim Brotherhood. While others object that
    this would be guilt by association.
    For that we searched Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf’s own words – in the Arabic and
    not what he says in English to the western media. It should shock every
    American to find out that Faisal Abdul Rauf stated to the popular Islamic
    media Hadiyul-Islam (www.hadielislam.com) on May 26th, 2010 in an article by
    Sa’da Abdul Maksoud. In it he states that an Islamic state can be
    established regardless of the government being a kingdom or democracy.

    In another article titled “I do not believe in religious dialogue” should alarm
    the ardent skeptic on the mindset of the Islamic visionary who advocates
    establishing Islamic lobbies throughout the West.

    http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/05/28/ground-zero-mosque-founder-faisal-abdul-rauf-in-arabic-our-goal-is-to-establish-shariah/

  • Olivia1998

    thanks for finding this Harp.   I just hear Juan Williams say Bush sent this guy to the middle east on our dollar twice. HOLLY COW

  • Onofre’s arm

    Well, Islam did give us the “Zero”. I also firmly believe that Islam gave us Obama.

    Please………….someone tell me the difference.

  • beyond_sea_salted_cracker_words

    I noticed long ago that the Media Trumpets have never once proclaimed him the “First Muslim U.S. President”.  I find it interesting they’ve conveniently ignored that issue yet blasted broadsides about a lowly runner-up Morman in 2008…

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Someone today mentioned that Americans build monuments (the 13 story Muslim Center) to commemorate those we have lost.  Muslims build monuments to commenorate their great victories.  So you be the judge, is the 9/11 Mosque in commemoration of the lives lost or the victory of killing 3,000 souls on American soil?

  • TeakWoodKite

    “And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Obama said.

    “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality..”

    Mystery solved. 

  • kafir

    We have elected Obama bin Laden as the Potus!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRCyvhQbULc&feature=related

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I can’t wait to see  how many Dem politicians have booked hair cuts for that day.

  • HARP

    Well…I hope we won`t hear anymore complaints from the loony left next time this shows up.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Harp, does that mean the three carrier groups of Iran are just for show?

  • Olivia1998

    I just read a post on another site I thought made sense “Islam is not a religion it’s government”  Think about that for a minute I did.
    Now isn’t that a scary thought when you add we have a man in the White who sides with Islam and not Americans.  WOW………….

  • kafir

    Olivia1998

    Sure is scary if you look at the fruits produced by Obama Bin Laden in the White House.

    The American People support Pastor Terry Jones for his 9-11 project.

    Yes! Bring a Koran to Gainville on 9-11 and join in the fun! 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTW-H6r9VFM&feature=related

  • TeakWoodKite

    Geezil: What is that glop you’re eating?
    Wimpy: It’s a soup burger. These are difficult times. Burgers can’t be choosers.

    oops BO… I mean Wimpy.

  • elaine

    Remember when W had Karen Hughes doing outreach to Muslims?
    Google: Karen Hughes+Muslims & take a walk down memory lane.

  • Deapthrowt

    Do think Obama did well at Harvard Law – he got in through connections at a time when th Ivy’s needed to show they were open enrollment institutions to keep their tax advantages and public good will.

    So in lopes Obambi with good connections and a prep school background, and they were willing to forget his felonious drug history and failure to produce at any school he attended so far. He was the friend of Bill Ayers father with his impeccable connections don’t forget and even Harvard Law is all about connections and not academics.

    He was only appointed to Harvard Law Review as a token black guy because the campus was blowing up over racial tensions and union worker disruption. The guy never wrote or edited a damn thing. And his fellow Law Review students knew he was an academic and intellectual joke who they claimed loved posing at President of HLR but never did a lick of work.

    He has nothing in his history or background to show any academic or intellectual achievement other than a good press release demanding we believe this bit of nonsense about him too. Show me the grades.

    Show me the articles authored. Hell, he did not even write his own books. Bill Ayers did and now this is proven by Ayers and Michelle Obama’s own words. Obama is a second rate n’eer do well who has accomplished nothing other than being “clean and well-spoken” with no Negro accent — when he wants to be. He is the Magic Negro to make everyone feel they are less racist than they actually are.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Drunk?????

  • AllMyPumas

    He will steal the election, just like in 08

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Onofre—-there is no difference…and yet there are so many questions.

    This song keeps goin’ through my head! It’s a temporary comfort to me.

  • AllMyPumas

    Why go to Panama City when there are so many needier Gulf places in red states?

    Oh yeah, right.

  • Tamara Cracker

    HARP, if Michelle had Botox, she wouldn’t have those ugly scowl lines anymore. 

    Or maybe they tried, but couldn’t fill the deep GROOVES of the hatred on Michelle’s face.

  • Hank

    So your saying Obama is a copycat? 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Burgers??? Share and Share Alike!

  • Tamara Cracker

    The Democrats run the HOUSE the SENATE and the PRESIDENCY.

    How in the hell could Republicans get the votes? 
    Hell, the Dems could ram through anything they want unimpeded, and the Republicans can’t do a damn thing. 

  • Breeze

    -
    U.S. funding of ground zero  
    mosque imam’s trip draws ire
     
       
    MSNBC,  
    by Staff     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/11/2010  
     
    Washington – The imam behind controversial plans for a mosque near the site of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks is being sent by the State Department on a religious outreach trip to the Middle East, officials said Tuesday, in a move that drew criticism from conservative lawmakers. The department is sponsoring Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s visit to Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, where he will discuss Muslim life in America and promote religious tolerance (Snip) Two Republican members of Congress, Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Peter King, called government sponsorship of Rauf’s trip “unacceptable” in a joint statement….

  • EllenD

    When he issued this pronouncement to a standing ovation from 100 Muslim guests from countries like Saudi Arabia the CNN Poll showed 70% of Americans are against the Mosque.
    I refuse to be tolerant of intolerance.

  • propertius

    With two wars, an ongoing disaster in the Gulf, and the worst economy since the Depression, doesn’t he have <i>enough</i> to keep him busy without butting into something that really isn’t any of his business?

  • Breeze

    -  

    Is Obama Winning the Hearts      
    and Minds of the Arab      
    and Muslim World?
         
         
    Creators Syndicate Inc.,      
    by Larry Elder      
         
    Original Article      
         
         
    8/12/2010       
         
         
    “It’s conceivable,” said then-presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2008, “that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein, and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush.’” (Snip) What percentage in the same six Arab nations — compared with Bush’s last year in office — now views the United States “very unfavorably” or “somewhat unfavorably”?

  • EllenD

    “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality..”

    all united in gender inequality.

  • EllenD

    Thanks, Elaine. I had forgotten that. It made me laugh. If there is a woman who could be meaner and nastier than Karen I haven’t met her, so I always thought that was Bush’s supreme joke. Like assigning outreach to a pit bull.

  • OxyCon

    Two great Muslim moments in American history:

  • Breeze
  • propertius

    President Biden?????????

  • OxyCon

    btw,
    When Obama says “Islam has always been part of America”, I think he’s saying basically that Islam has supremecy over everything, which is the Muslim belief, like when someone converts to Islam, the proper term is “revert to Islam”, as in coming home to the one truth.

  • EllenD

    He is the Magic Negro to make everyone feel they are less racist than they actually are.

    Well it’s not working. Now on every channel we get All Race All The Time.

  • elaine

    Hank inquires, “So you’re saying Obama is a copycat?”

    No, not exactly, more like part of a continuum. See, Hank, I don’t believe the entire U.S. gov is run by any 1 person…try to pick up on subtlety, O.K?

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Oxycon—Hilarious!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Oxycon—Hilarious pictures!

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    Back in the primaries I knew what this guy was going to do to america.  I fought this tooth and nail but felt like Cassandra in her Temple as The Idiots let the horse through the gates. I was screaming the city would burn. Now I just wish I didn’t have to burn with the fuckers who killed my country.  Wouldn’t hurt so bad if there was another country to go to but after america the world is full of shitty tyranny.  I can’t laugh anymore.  this is a fucking nightmare.  I used to have hope that maybe in my life time women would be treated as equals but now I realize that after obama puts sharia in place we will be punching bags, rape victems and worlthless cunts once again.  what is wrong with us.  are we genectilaly destined to be the slaves of men?

  • EllenD

    Can you beieve that Obama ended with this:

    And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every religion, including Islam—that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

    Yes, I have often heard that repeated by Muslims everywhere. Especially by the ones building the mosque. (snark)

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    “Islam has always been part of America”,

    Oxycon–And don’t they make up just under 2% of our population?!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    EllenD—Funny!
    And fodder for a new novel, by any chance?

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    No Islam is 100 percent of America. So sayeth the King of Obamastahn.  but I shouldn’t have an opinion.  according to Sharia I am a worthless stupid cunt and should be stoned.  Excuse me while I arrange my roomate to escort me everywhere so they don’t cut off my head.  Tomorrow I will call my doctor to have my clitorectomy before Obamacare steals my insurance .  Happy Sharia fellow worthless Cunts who deserve to be beaten. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Here’s a few angels too Cindy!
    ^j^    ^j^   ^j^   ^j^   ^j^   ^j^

  • TeakWoodKite

    So if he can’t beat them (try Gitmo peeps in NYC) join ‘em? (ask his wife to line up funding on trip to spain entertaining arab money) ?

  • ~~JustMe~~

     Here’s a few ~~Angels~~ too Cindy!  

    ^j^    ^j^   ^j^   ^j^   ^j^   ^j^  

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    ~JustMe~ You always add the perfect touch!

  • TeakWoodKite

    ;

  • felizarte

    His pronouncement re Mosque is his announcement that he is not running in 2012. Even if he wants to, he just about drove the last nail on his political life.  Finally, the Divine intervention I’ve been expecting.  

  • TeakWoodKite

    The only close relationship he had with a guy in his childhood was the Mr. Saetoro when he lived in Indonesia.

    Naw mate. Ya forgetin’ his crazy uncle Frank.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    “Bagdad Gibbs” does his molly coddling for him!
    Good one Armymom!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    “Bagdad Gibbs” does his molly coddling for him! 
    Good one Armymom!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    YEA!!! Hell YEA! Let’s never allow lightening to strike twice!

  • jwrjr

    More funny if less true.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    I put them behind the others on the shelf.

    Annie—That’s so funny. But what worries me is that you’re much more classy than I, but I’ve done the same thing in a bookstore! LOL

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    The fly really adds, don’t you think?  Thanks for the laugh, Just Me!

  • Tony Stark

    He and GW make quite a pair like in the movie Dumb and Dumber. We are turning into an idiocracy with each election.

  • jwrjr

    “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality..”   In what world is this true?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Nope.  Just those angry eyes flashing out from the meshy stuff.  Can she still wear her boob belt underneath that thing?

  • felizarte

    This is his ‘acting stupidly’ moment–wading into an issue opposed by 70% of the country, when he didnt have to, again.  He was parroting a line in the movie, “The American president” on flag burning.  

  • Jackie

    What the President said tonight was brave.  It goes a long way in defending a minority that is, frankly, being persecuted for the actions of a fringe, extremist element of their broad religion.

    Defending the “Ground Zero Mosque” isn’t the popular thing to do.  It isn’t the politically expedient thing to do.  It’s just the right thing to do.  Obama doesn’t get anything out of doing this.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I try sometimes ;)

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    In Obama’s world he believes it, but we all know just how crazy his world is…

  • Onofre’s arm

    Gosh Jackie, are those kneepads, or are the calluses on your knees just getting huge from going down on The One so frequently?

  • kafir

    Message on Ramadam from the President of The United States of Arabia (Potusoa)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euANTSzrvso&feature=related

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    LOL!  I don’t know about the classy part but it is our civic duty to protect our fellow Americans from their lies.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Doesn’t the library have Garbage cans? ;)

  • Sgt. Bigfoot

    I may be a little late to this parade but I think Obama, the Constitutional Scholar, has the idea that when election time comes around he can declare martial law, suspend the Constitution and join Chavez and the Castro brothers in ruling another third world country. Then he can as he pleases. Oh, yeah, he does that now doesn’t he? It’ll just be more of the same then. Michelle will be like Eva Peron. I’m sure pillow talk like this abounds in the royal bedroom.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    He’s doing a job on us not for us.

  • Jackie

    Gosh Jackie, are those kneepads, or are the calluses on your knees just getting huge from going down on The One so frequently?”

    No, I just enjoy my country’s great tradition of freedom of religion more than you do, I guess.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all. He praises Islam at every turn yet even as he declares himself a Christian, I’ve never heard one positive thing from his lips about his supposed religion.  Never mentioned Christ; never Christian principles, etc.  He’s a fake Christian and an undercover (coming out more and more though) Muslim.

  • Jackie

    I may be a little late to this parade but I think Obama, the Constitutional Scholar, has the idea that when election time comes around he can declare martial law, suspend the Constitution and join Chavez and the Castro brothers in ruling another third world country. Then he can as he pleases. Oh, yeah, he does that now doesn’t he? It’ll just be more of the same then. Michelle will be like Eva Peron. I’m sure pillow talk like this abounds in the royal bedroom.”

    No Quarter: where all the crazy people are gathered into one nice, soft, white room.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    I’d love to see michelle in a burka…. wouldn’t have to look at those crazy looking bulging eyes anymore

  • Onofre’s arm

    Jackie, you humongous slug, you’ve rarely missed a chance to ridicule people for their religious beliefs, especially Christian beliefs. You’re a very, VERY sick sack of shit.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    I always regarded that magazine cover a warning.  It was not satire.  It was a code that the stupid of America refused to believe.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Okay, I admit it.  I’ve done the same thing.  Everytime a magazine cover features O or MOO, I turn the stack over in the checkout line.

  • kafir

    You know, if you voice out too loud, the fucking muslim terrorists would go after you, just like you watching those You tubes showing all  those mother fucking radical Muslims killing the infidels.

    Theo Van Gogh was murdered, Pim Fortym was gunned down, Geert Wilders under 24 hr- security protection, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Robrt Spancer, Pastor Jones, Rushdi and many others are all under death threat..

    Caire says it’s Islamophobia, it’s time the non-Muslims start fighting back!

    No more dove and olive branches but let the Hawks soared to the blue sky looking at the horizon/prairie… watch out all these fucking nuisance islamic/parasitic grasshoppers!!! 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4HJ40Wz5xg

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    It’s the sneer that never needs to be seen again.  

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Jackie.  The resident fly buzzing around annoying people.  Tell us, Jackie…wasn’t that you on Obama’s face?

    Of course it was.

  • rosa

    and why are you here then?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    We keep mistaking Obama for the POTUS.  He’s the POSOTUS!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    They will be fashionable on the “outside” so says Meeechelle!!!

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Joe Biden.  We can only go up after Obama.

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    At least we don’t have to worry about Jackie getting it’s daily requirement of protein…

  • Sgt. Bigfoot

    I speak metaphorically. Of course. Hyperbolically. Rubber room indeed. Those who defend what is obviously an idiot in over his depth needs a frontal lobotomy, followed by massive insulin and electrical shock treatment. You have supped too long at the Koolaid trough, swine. We the people need leadership and example instead of ‘insects preying on the will of the people.’

  • FranSC

    Unless all of the primary and ge fraud and illegalities are exposed to the general public, they are set to repeat the 2008 process which could in fact put this know-nothing back into office.  As jbjd had in his/her post Aug 12th A Coup, Through and Through,  ”The Texas Democratic Party (TDP) just held their state convention and voted overwhelmingly to renew the Texas two-step (the caucus) in 2012.  The press called this a victory for 0bama.”

    The 0bama supporters are in charge of the county and state parties not to mention nationally.

    So, instead of us suffering until 2012, it will be suffering until 2016 – at which time it may be too late to save our country.

  • Docelder

    This whole fascination with running on the platform that “at least he’s not Bush”… makes no damn sense at all… unless “not Bush” is really code words for he may be a jackass, but “at least he isn’t white”. Then… all the racist bait crap makes more sense. Then for the first time I think I have resolved a lot of things like what Harry Reid said. I think I get it finally. Duh.

  • kafir

    Islam is a mother fucking religion. One day Mecca would pay for all these heinous crimes!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6bsWP6o0aE&feature=related

  • ~~JustMe~~

    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶̯٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶

    She pops out of her hole now and again! Here she is with some others!

  • HARP

    They always land on shit.

  • HARP

    Jon stewart`s response

  • NW Boiler

    I did a quick Wikipedia search on “List of American Muslims” and the very first entry is:

    Muzzammil Hassan – Founder of Bridges TV, a Muslim television network, currently facing charges of killing his wife.[1]
     
    Not the first entry I’d want on a list of “notable” muslims.  Apparently, his wife filed for divorce and she was found beheaded at the Bridges TV studio back in 2009.  I didn’t research how it turned out. 
     
    Interesting list, although certainly not difinitive.  I will admit, the Muslim’s would have a pretty solid NBA team; particularly up front.  I’d probably start Olajuwan over Kareem or Shaq.

  • FranSC

    Greta announced “Breaking News” on her 10 pm show:  At the White House dinner tonight celebrating Rhamadam, 0bama announced his *endorsement* of the Mosque to be built on the hallowed grounds of the 911 tragedy, making the off-subject comment that Islam has the right to *religious freedom*.

    Oh, please dumb-ass, this is not about religious freedom!  This is about common sense which, obviously, is not part of your vast sphere of intelligence.

  • Jackie

    Jackie, you humongous slug, you’ve rarely missed a chance to ridicule people for their religious beliefs, especially Christian beliefs. You’re a very, VERY sick sack of shit.”

    No.  That’s an outright lie.  I’ve never once mocked anyone here for their religious beliefs.  You’re projecting, yet again.

    But even if someone were to mock another for their religious beliefs, there is nothing wrong with that, either.  The 1st Amendment, according to you, is nothing more than a blowjob.  To me, it is the freedom to worship, and the freedom to say what you want to say.  That includes the mocking of religion.  No one is protected from ridicule. 

    Obviously, you don’t have a fucking clue about any of that.

  • Jackie

    At least we don’t have to worry about Jackie getting it’s daily requirement of protein…”

    Just like Onofre’s Arm, the 1st Amendment to you is nothing more than a blowjob joke.

  • OBSP

    Larry is normally accurate, but I noted that sentence also.  We don’t know how he did at Harvard or Columbia, he would not release grades.

  • Mr. Natural

    It’s not nice to speak ill of the “First Wookie.”

  • Mr. Natural

    >>>  Does he think we’re idiots? 

    Does Rose Kennedy own a black dress?

  • Mr. Natural

    Well, Lock and Load, baby-sans! In 45 years I’ve been in three wars, all against people who didn’t do a thing to f**k with me. It’ll be a joy to help some Constitution-subverting idiots Fail to Live Up to Their Wellness Potential!

  • felizarte

    Not brave at all especially if he has been camouflaging his Islamic faith all this time.  Fortunately, the country doesn’t have to just suspect anymore.  There are definite signs.  Individuals can practice any religion, just don’t impose those beliefs on others.  And don’t use the Constitution to deny other individuals their rights as well.  

  • Mr. Natural

    >>> Why isn’t impeachment an option?

    1. Insufficient testicular fortitude.
    2. The threat of Ghetto Fires.
    3. The fear that The Rest of the World will call us RAYCISSSS.

  • felizarte

    Not brave at all especially if he has been camouflaging his Islamic faith all this time.  Fortunately, the country doesn’t have to just suspect anymore.  There are definite signs.  Individuals can practice any religion, just don’t impose those beliefs on others.  And don’t use the Constitution to deny other citizens their rights as well.

    BUT BRAVE OR NOT, he is definitely toast in 2012! 

  • Mr. Natural

    All sorts use Religion to justify their bad acts. There are probably a few Zoroastrians, some Unitarians and maybe a Bah’ai or that need a slap upside the head every now and then.

  • Jackie

    Not brave at all especially if he has been camouflaging his Islamic faith all this time.  Fortunately, the country doesn’t have to just suspect anymore.  There are definite signs.”

    Only of your raging stupidity.

    “Individuals can practice any religion, just don’t impose those beliefs on others.  And don’t use the Constitution to deny other citizens their rights as well.”

    If you actually believe that, then surely you must support the creation of this mosque on private property, correct?

  • Onofre’s arm

    Jackie, try puking once in a while to rid yourself of the bile that seems to have built up to toxic levels in your blubbery body. The fact that you’ve somehow managed to distort my simple observation that you are constantly an insufferable sycophant for monkey boy Obama into a bizarre criticism of the first amendment, is evidence that you are possibly suffering from some kind of toxin induced dementia. 

    But since YOU brought it up, scumbag cowards and flaming bigots like you Jackie are well known to shield their filthy and pinheaded attitudes behind the first amendment…………….but only so long as it suits their purpose. And just like pornographers, anarchists, racists (Jackie), Nazis (Jackie again), unmitigated assholes (Jackie’s got this covered too) and the most despicable examples of human scum, you too Jackie are afforded the freedom of speech. It’s a shame that you not only squander that right, but that you also feel the need to expose the rest of us to your nauseating drivel.

  • Bonnie Jean Burris

    You have a colorful way of expressing yourself, Mr. Johnson. Just one question, if you don’t mind? Why do you believe anything (currently in evidence) regarding the prez’ intelligence is proven by his experience at Harvard Law? His election to the Law Review occurred after Harvard had changed it’s selection process in order to be more inclusive. No grades are awarded, only the relative position of a student in his/her class. Personally, I will not believe his IQ is above average unless/until I see the results of his testing. He and the First Lady are the most ordinary people without any outstanding performance previous to his adoption by the DNC to become a “transformational” minority president. As for his ties to Islam, I don’t know since there is a murkiness (is that a  word?) in his past and unlike you, I do not believe he was born in this country. Or at the very least, there are enough questions unresolved to consider the possibility he is not a natural born citizen of our country. That would be a stinky can of worms if ever proven to be true. I’m sure most Americans have seen video of his Oath of Office and can decide for themselves if the fault belongs to the Chief Justice or with Obama, but it is curious bit of history. The only instance where a president has had the ceremony repeated in private was Franklin Pierce and he is also the only other president who has had his citizenship challenged. His father was Canadian and many believed he had been born in Canada.

  • Bonnie Jean Burris

    Lack of intellectual coursity and tunnel vision are very limiting Jackie. Open your mind to the possibility you may be wrong. There is more at stake than your ego.

  • ShellyT

    Bush did the exact same thing every year.

  • Jackie

    “And just like pornographers, anarchists, racists (Jackie), Nazis (Jackie again), unmitigated assholes (Jackie’s got this covered too) and the most despicable examples of human scum, you too Jackie are afforded the freedom of speech.”

    I’ve been called a “racist” by you before, so that’s no surprise.  But I am curious what exactly prompted you to call me a “Nazi”.  I mean, why didn’t you also lump me in with your “pornographers” and “anarchists”,  while you were at it?

  • Jackie

    Also, quite interesting Onofre, how after I called bullshit on your accusation that I have ever “ridicule(d) people for their religious beliefs, especially Christian beliefs”, you had no further response.  Clearly, even you are aware of your mile-high bullshit.

  • Clara

    Because Panama City is clean and oil-free, just in case Sasha wants to jump in.  And because 2 years ago, Florida voted for him.  The others, not so much.

  • Clara

    He’s just lost the Jewish vote and the NYC vote. What other large and traditionally blue constituency did this statement piss off? 

  • MOTUS

    Of course I like it!

    Thanks charter MOL Breeze for the boost!

    Hugs,
    M

  • Mormaer

    The Obamas are pissed. This is opositional defiant personality disorder writ large. First Madame goes to Spain and gets hammered by public opinion and now Mr. President thumbs his nose at the whole country. Hectoring condescension is their defense when things are not going so great. I can’t decide if they are two year olds and cannot help themselves, or are arrested development teens who are telling us they can do whatever they want and we cannot stop them. It is past time that they are shown major discipline. Elections anyone?

  • getfitnow

    One HUGE difference, imo– although I disagree with his policies, imo,GW loves this country. That One–not so much.

  • getfitnow

    “BiG Lie” — Ayer’s should use that as a title for the post POTUS book. :-P

  • getfitnow

    Didn’t he behead her?

  • arabella trefoil

    Jackie is Squeaky Fromme.

  • getfitnow

    We knew or suspected:

  • Dave

    I don’t think that Obama or his wife actually care about getting re-elected.  They are going to do more and more damage to this country than anyone ever thought possible.  I firmly believe that millions of whites voted for this asshole to make themselves feel good about their past racial feelings.  It appeased their conscience.  After 4 years of this crap I can’t believe that anyone with half a brain would support this idiot and his ideas.  While some people still support this bastard, the saying goes, “YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID”.  You will always have the Jackies of the world, just like a cockroach, they survive anything

  • getfitnow

    I say all three–stupid in that he has no idea what he’s doing and it shows–badly.

  • FLDemFem

    “if we live by that one rule at the heart of every religion, including Islam—that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.”

    So the Muslims want us to send out suicide bombers, drive car bombs and fly passenger jets into their places of business??? Who knew??

  • arabella trefoil

    I agree. The Obamas do not give a shit. They hate this country. They are going to do whatever they want. They are both in “burn baby burn” mode now, and not in a disco inferno way.

    The  damage they can do, the happier they will be. Obama is already tired of being president, so like a drunken frat boy he’s trashing the place. (By “place” I mean our country.)

    He knows he’ll go on to a career of writing and speaking and making piles of money. Because there are enough fools out there who will still admire him.

  • Becky

    Ok Harp and sowsear,  I have to wipe coffee off my computer screen.  you guys are a riot.  thanks for the first belly laugh of the day.

  • getfitnow

    Who are the puppet masters? That One’s strings are being pulled. They have him so scripted now that he probably has to reference which shoe to take off first. Someone else called it –he’s a hood ornament–period.

  • getfitnow

    That’s why laugh when he, Pelosi and Reid call the GOP “obstructionists.” No, this is all on them. Unlike, I might add, Bush’s last two years—a dem congress including THAT ONE !

  • FLDemFem

    “They can’t contain their nouveau riche desires to be thought of as upper crust.”

    Annie, have you noticed that while the Clintons were invited to visit friends in various vacation venues that the Obamas have to rent when they go on vacation?? Apparently the people who contributed to the campaign and support him politically don’t want them in their houses.To me, that is very telling. I mean, would you want someone in your house who put their feet on the furniture and didn’t bother to say “please” and “thank you” to the staff?? I wouldn’t.

  • getfitnow

    Trying to reach Larry Sinclair for comment. :-P

  • getfitnow

    Didn’t Uncle Frank write a book on how freaky he was? =-X

  • kenoshamarge

    I wish I could agree that he will not run again felizarte.

     I believe that his narcissism and his arrogance allows him to quite honestly believe that all he has to do is show his smarmy face, mug for the folks and the media will tell the world how wonderful he is. All will be the same as if was in 2008. For someone who is purportedly such a “smart” man he acts the fool often.

    He is IMHO just delusional enough to believe that he can bamboozle the voters, with the help of the lame-stream media one more time.

    His handlers have to know differently and have to be worried but I believe he’s got the bit in his teeth and he and FLOTUS are going to do whatever the hell they want to do. His arrogance knows no limits and neither does hers.

  • FLDemFem

    felizarte, haven’t you noticed that if the American people don’t want it, Obama supports it? And if the American people do want it, Obama opposes it?? Seems to be the Obama SOP. Everyday is “Opposite Day” in Obamaland!!

  • kenoshamarge

    Probably the first time in his life that Joe Biden would be considered a step up.

  • kenoshamarge

    I personally don’t give a rat’s backside what Juan Williams has to say about anything. Since he became an Obot he’s lost all ability to think like a rational human being.

    When did “he did it too” became an acceptable argument for anyone over the age of 5 years old?

    Forget the damn culture of corruption, we need to cure the culture of immaturity! Fast. Soon. Now!

  • FLDemFem

    Joe Biden may be a bit of a loose lip, but he is a patriot and has been a public servant for a very long time. His children serve in the military and in public office. He is a sensible man, I think. And if he were moved into the presidency because of Obama’s removal or resignation, then he would have sense enough to appoint Hillary Clinton as VP and resign himself. That would be my suggestion to him, along with millions of others.

  • oowawa

    As of 2008 .6% of the population was Muslim.  In the same year, .8% of the population was Jehovah’s Witnesses.   There are fewer Muslims in the USA than Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

  • oowawa

    As of 2008 .6% of the US population was Muslim.  In the same year, .8% of the population was Jehovah’s Witnesses.   There are fewer Muslims in the USA than Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

  • oowawa

    As of 2008, only .6% of the US population was Muslim.  In the same year, .8% of the population was Jehovah’s Witnesses.   There are fewer Muslims in the USA than Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

  • Noogan

    It’s amazing what you can find if you only seek it out!

    In 1808, Mathias Sawyer of Edenton N.C. owned an enslaved man named Mustapha. A white man named Arthur Howe convinced Mustapha to runaway. Their plan was to sell and resale Mustapha on their journey northward. Mustapha would escape each time and team backup with Howe. When they reached Richmond, Virginia they would depart company and Mustapha would head north. 

    In The War of 1812, Abraham joined the British Colonial Marines who had occupied Spanish Pensacola. Abraham lived from 1787-1870. He was well known as a very gifted individual, soft spoken, and intelligent. Abraham came to Pensacola, Florida sometime in the early 1800s. During his years in Pensacola, Abraham had been a slave of Dr. Eugenio Antonio Sierra, a prominent Spanish physician and surgeon. He was held in high esteem and worked as an interpreter, for he spoke several different languages.

    Soon after the Fort Negro construction Abraham left out on his own. He soon gained a reputation as a businessman or a man after profit. Abraham became involved in trade with the Maroons and the Seminole Indians of the lower Suwannee River area. Gradually, he was accepted by the Maroons and became their foremost leader. The Seminoles had a high regard for Abraham.

    Chief Micanopy, the top hereditary chief in the Seminole Nation, appointed Abraham as the “sense-bearer” or legal counsel. As the military leader of the Maroons, he was known by the name “Sounoffee Tustenuggee” which means “Suwannee Warrior.” Abraham was married to a woman named Hagar. Abraham and Hagar had two sons named Renty and Washington. Abraham lived peacefully with his family and people in the villa of Pilaklikaha, raising horses, cattle, and growing crops.
    After the first Seminole war Abraham and a delegation of Indian Chiefs went to Oklahoma in 1832 to inspect the land being offered to them in the treaty that was to move them out of Florida. The United States officials would not allow Abraham and the others to leave until they signed the treaty, which they did on March 28, 1833. Abraham opposed the move, therefore spending almost eight months at Fort Gibson. Abraham and several other leaders were opposed to the treaty after learning of its deception, thus the second Seminole war began 1835 to 1842. Abraham had fought in almost every battle of the Seminole Indians wars until 1837. However, in February of 1839 he moved to Oklahoma with his family and became a successful cattle rancher.

    Abraham returned to Florida in 1852, ten years after the government officially declared an end to the Seminole war. The government had hired Abraham to take chief Billy Bowlegs, his father in-law, and some other chiefs to Washington, DC., in order to convince them to leave Florida. They met with Millard Fillmore who became President after Zachary Taylor died. The chiefs still refused to move to Oklahoma. They went back to Florida and disappeared in the everglades. Abraham went back to his ranch in Oklahoma where he died years later, sometime after the Civil War in 1870. He was buried in an unmarked grave in today’s Seminole county.

    In 1818 Medina, Ohio was organized. It was originally called Mecca, later the name changed to Medina making it the seventh place on the globe at the time called Medina. Twelve other cities in America bear the name Medina such as- Medina, New York; Medina, Michigan; Medina, Wisconsin, Medina, Washington, Medina, Tennessee, and Medina, Texas are among them.
    Much, much more on the history of Muslim contributions to America:
    http://www.muslimsinamerica.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

  • FLDemFem

    Before Obama goes through with  “the idea that when election time comes around he can declare martial law, suspend the Constitution” he should read some history. Specifically the reasoning behind Admiral Yamamoto’s refusal to follow up Pearl Harbor with invasion by ground troops..”In America, there is a gun behind every blade of grass.” These days there are more guns, and bigger ones, than there were in 1941.

  • Noogan
  • creeper

    Because if you impeach him you make a martyr out of him forever.  Let the voters throw his ass out overwhelmingly and then let the investigations begin. 

    The impeachment process lost all credibility when Ken Starrr got hold of it.  Impeaching Barry would be easily sold as the same kind of politics.  I don’t want anything to happen that might bring sympathy to the Fraud-in-Chief.

  • Noogan
  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    NWBoiler, Indeed! What a great idea.  They would get some more of their (stay in the closet) butt hugging, LEGALLY.

    Then the name of the new gay bar can be “You Mecca My Block” :)

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    HARP, I’m in to actions.  And we know the hO likes to use “words, just words”, any words, but ignore because it’s “just campain rhetoric”.

    When it comes to his emptiness, I require proof. SHOW ME, no more tell me.   :)

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Onofre’s Arm, I’m in to actions. And we know the hO likes to use “words, just words”, any words, but ignore because it’s “just campain rhetoric”. 

    When it comes to his emptiness, I require proof. SHOW ME, no more tell me. :)

  • JeannieB

    To answer the original question, here’s a list of the “extraordinary” contributions:

    http://www.islam101.com/history/muslim_us_hist.html

    In a nutshell (assuming what is cited is even minimally true):  
    – Islamists discovered America (NOT the people who became Native Americans, NOT the Norse, NOT Columbus), according to the Chinese (???);
    – one early Muslim explorer is responsible for the very existence of New Mexico and Arizona (their words, not mine!);
    – African Muslims contributed mightily to the slave trade, in addition to Muslims constituting a large percentage of colonial-era slaves;
    – one Muslim slave was owned by someone who became a state governor.

    The only names you’ll recognize on the cited list are various Nation of Islam leaders (whose mission is the exact opposite of “contributing” to America) and Kareem Abdul-Jabar (originally Lew Alcindor).

    Surprisingly, the list does not include Mohammed Ali (originally Cassius Clay). 

    Not surprisingly, no women are mentioned by name. Only one woman (the wife of Ismail Al-Faruqi) is mentioned at all, and the only reason she is mentioned is because she was murdered along with him in 1986. I looked her up and found out she was Lois Faruqi (nee Lois Ibsen — thus another convert to Islam), and she was a scholar in the field of Islamic art.

    So there you have it — yeah, this is all really extraordinary. Especially considering that the only verifiable “contributions” on the list were made by people born into non-Islamic faiths.
      
    Note re Zero’s level of intelligence:  As others have noted, he was appointed president (NOT an editor, contributor, staffer, or even researcher) of the Harvard Law Review. (By one account they actually made up the office of ”president” so they could give it to him — but I frankly don’t care enough to verify this one way or the other.) As a political figurehead, NOT an academic, he did not contribute to the actual publication in any substantive or intellectual way. He did, however, make a nice visual centerpiece for diversity when the group picture was taken.

    Like others here, I would put his intelligence at somewhat less than average; after all, there must be some reason why his entire academic record has been kept secret, unlike the records of every other public personage in history. It appears that his whole life, up to and including the presidency, has been nothing more than affirmative action taken to its hideous extreme.  

    Also, he has NEVER been a professor, because that requires actual scholarship (although of course in his very, very special case — because he is so special, because special is what people say he is –  the requirements, as usual, would probably be waived). For a short time he was a lecturer (something ANYBODY can be). 

    So I really wish people at all levels — reporters, commentators, bloggers, his political opponents, Sarah Palin (who, unlike others named, usually gets her facts right) – would stop elevating his academic accomplishments and stature. Isn’t it enough that he’s POTUS, Nobel Peace Laureate, Lincoln-FDR-and-JFK reincarnate, Lightbringer, and Messiah (plus the Islamic equivalent, if any, of all of these)? In addition to being the unanimous delegate selection for Dem nominee in 2008.

    Hillary who? 

  • Noogan

    Demonizing Muslims is really no different than demonizing Christians or Jews. I really hate the stereotyping going on here.

    I don’t support the Mosque being built near Ground Zero; and the other night I had another nightmare about 9-11 and what I saw happen on that day. It will never leave me–not ever. 

    But for some inexplicable reason, it has not made me hate Muslims. I’m so sorry to see the vitriol and hate coming from commenters here in response to Larry’s blog post. 

    The truth is, Muslims have made contributions to America, since the beginning of this nation; they have been an integral part of our nation’s diversity and it’s fabric. And, it is so sad to see the hate-filled-rhetoric, mocking jokes, and xenophobia coming from people who should be–and like to claim their independence of thought. 

    How sad that Larry would stoop to demonizing Muslims in order to make a point about Obama’s support for the Mosque–which, again, I do not support. 

    But I resist and recoil any time someone tries to demogogue me with lies or ignorance like; and I always QUESTION demogoguery:  

    “Muslim contributions to America? Name One.” 

    http://www.muslimsinamerica.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

  • FrenchNail

    Slavery: from “Slav” or the European population most inslaved by Mulsims.

    Amazing what you know when you are educated.

  • AbigailAdams

    We must all believe our “lying eyes”.   I know the term “cognitive dissonance” has been thrown around from time to time, but we must all try to truly understand what that term means as it regards this president and this country.  Strangely, the muslim practice of taqiyya (in part, lying to exploit all possibilities) seems to be very much at home in this president’s heart and mind.  Don’t be embarrassed or dismiss your alarm at the growing trend in this government’s tolerance for a people whose ideologies, centuries’ old, are having dark consequences in countries once considered too enlightened to be threatened by such outrageous (and what seems, in hindsight, blatant) reversals in social progress.  Peace-loving, happy, tolerant countries like The Netherlands, Norway and Belgium.  The changes taking place in these and other European countries is not the result of an immigrant population trying to assimilate, but rather of the newcomers’ desire to establish their own country within a country — the way in which a parasite destroys the host for its survival.  I know this sounds like a bit of crack-pottery, and perhaps it is.  The sorry thing is it can only be known after the fact.  That being the case, at least we can say we looked at another viewpoint and were’t led to it unwittingly.

    Does anyone else know this writer, MacKenzie?  http://www.globalpolitician.com/23094-islamism 

  • ces

    in more ways than one…

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    OMG Just Me, that’s precious.  Thank U

  • Noogan

    Oh, for fuck’s sake…..

    Olivia1998, instead of believing such tripe, why don’t you do some research on the religion of Islam? 

    Oh, wait. I know why. Because you prefer to believe lies about a religion and smear an entire people based on their religious affiliation. 

    Oh, gee. That’s what happened to Jesus Christ, isn’t it?

    Shame on all of you. 

  • FrenchNail

    Standing ovation…. That’s tell me all I need to know about the guy. I DO judge people by the company they keep.

    But I had judge the character at Hello, way back in January 2008.

    Gee, I am so angry….

  • getfitnow
  • Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker

    Yes, but you DO have to seek it out.  They’re there, but they aren’t there in your memory, on the tip of your tongue as are the memories we have of the really bigger accomplishments of Christians and people of other faiths who make up the history of our country.

    What makes me really angry about this statement by Obozo is that he clearly, clearly tried to win the hearts and minds of Christian voters by making several statements during the primary and GE about having “come to Jesus” so to speak at the Rev. Wright’s supposed Christian church.  He presented himself as a practicing Christian.

    Now, tell me this, why doesn’t the MSM call him on this deception?

  • FrenchNail

    Noogan, you’re getting old troll!!! Any other talking point you need to push today?

  • oowawa

    Just a warning to Israel to not go and do something stupid . . .

  • FrenchNail

    I has to come with a bow though! ;)

  • Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker

    Now more boob belts either!

  • oowawa

    His grand entrance at the Dem convention–what a decision–enter between Greek columns?  Or minarets?  Columns?  Or minarets?  Looks like cooler heads prevailed–THAT TIME . . .

  • Guest

    Are there ME financial interests involved in rebuilding Ground Zero ?

    That’s the only reason I can imagine that there is a mad rush for this 13 story mega mosque by a pro-Sharia, anti-free speech imam while New York Port Authority throws up roadblock after roadblock to the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church at the same site.

    Believe me, Muslims know exactly what they are doing while we are asleep…they know it’s a good time. Follow the money. They (and Obama) are far from stupid.

  • FrenchNail

    I really did not like Bush, but at least I never questioned his patriotism. I knew that there was a line in the sand even his greed would not compel him to cross.

    With this one EVERYTHING is on the table. He is having a fire sale of everything American.

    We need to impeach him. Looks like the “birthers” might not be that toxic for much longer…

  • Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker

    Gosh, somehow NQ’s village idiot named Jackie has somehow taken down her (its–never know what gender to assign a bot) first comment.  But I see follow up comments. 

    I’m still voting “lack thereof” in regard to Jackie’s intelligence.  Thanks, Onofre’s arm, for having the intestinal fortitude to duke it out with one of the last of the bot army.  May she/it rust in pieces.

  • FrenchNail

    Biden?

    That’s why the elligibility question is so attractive. The WHOLE ticket is void. And we get new elections in about 3 months … of President Pilosi. But Pilosi signed on the Democratic convention certification…Therefore she could be in legal trouble there and could be removed of the House if the Majority there was Republican. 

    So it would be the Oldest Senator of the Majority (President Pro Tempore of Senate) Dick Lugar for 3 months and then a new President.

  • oowawa

    Yes–Juan Williams is just another obot.  O’Reilly is smug and self-congratulatory about his high ratings.  Well, Bill, just keep letting Juan fill in for you, and you will see those high ratings disappear in a big hurry . . .

  • betty

    No impeachment because, as getfotnow says “He’s a hood ornament” and the members of the house and senate are hubcaps and bumper stickers.

    That’s our visible government: a hood ornament, hubcaps and bumper stickers and we don’t know the type of vehicle – except that for the middle class it is probably a hearse. 

  • FrenchNail

    Not Franklin Pierce but Chester Arthur.

  • sowsear

    Oh, heavens yes, but she deserved it!

  • kafir

    Obama is just a wolf masquerading as a sheep.

    Obama is naive thinking that American people still believing in  him that he is a true Christian.

    Obama is a traitor to the USA. Obama was elected to manage the country efficiently but to the contrary is ruining America!

    How could Obama runs the country when he couldn’t take the presidential oath properly?

    Wolf in sheep’s clothing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXSobcLnWTo

  • kenoshamarge

    Have you also noticed FlDemFem that while the Democrats like to accuse so many Republicans of being out of the “mainstream” the leader of “their” party seems to be more out of step and out of the mainstream than many/most on the right?

    That’s not a good place for the “President” of the United States to be. But then we’ve come to a place in time where we have Presidents that just represent “their” party and not the country as a whole.

    Politics was always a blood sport and basically ugly. It’s now divided us at a time when we “need” to come together to do what needs to be done to fix all the things that are wrong. A “divider” in the White House will never do that.

    He’ll just keep running his mouth, attacking the opposition and dividing us even more. That’s not a leader. That’s a partisan POS. JMO

  • Yttik

    I read his books, unlike his supporters who apparently didn’t read the books, they just carried it around thinking it would make them look smart.

  • kenoshamarge

    I agree oowawa. Although I am not a fan of O’Reillys I will watch when he argues with Hegan Kelly or when he has something I find interesting. Most of the time his big mouth ruins even the segments I might find interesting.  But Williams is a disaster.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    But I thought this President was to be the anti-Bush?   So when Obama enacts the same policies as Bush those are good policies except when they’re bad policies….  Ah to hell with it.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

     I understand that we have freedom of religion for all.  I have a friend who is from Pakistan and she is muslim.  She is way way super nice, a good person and does not condone any violence.  She is just a regular person living her life like everyone else. 

    We had a conversation one day and she said crazy people hide behind the religion and use it as a vehicle to push their hateful agenda and it affects all of them.  Kinda like the illegal “mexicans” affect all of us Latinos, we get lumped together, I totally understand.

    Unfortunately it seems more and more crazy people are taking over the religion and do have some f*cked up agenda to convert the world.  The more the world advances through science and knowledge, the more those crazies revert to the neanderthal days. 

    If someone wants to build a mosque absolutely go right ahead…… but YES I do agree the line is being crossed of where it wants to be built AND the reason it wants to be built by ground zero in my opinon is because that spot is a “victory” or its “holy ground” to the f*cking crazy ones.  How they mortally wounded the “great satan” blah blah blah……. so building the mosque right there is hateful and evil.

    **oh on a side note, I visited democratic underground to see what they are saying.  I used to be a member there until 2008.  anyway they are just so fucking proud of their president and how brave he is, they are so desperate to cling to anything.  I am so glad I am not a dum dem anymore, they are just as pathetic as the crazy right wingers they bash on 24/7.

  • Justine

    So, please, how do you explain Hilary’s Department of State sending the 911-Mosque all over the mideast so he can raise funds for his project?  Wouldn’t the Hilary we thought we knew have the courage (and power) to stop that?
    .

  • Justine

    So, please, how do you explain Hillary’s Department of State funding the 911-Mosque’s immam’s trips all over the mideast so he can raise funds for his project?  Wouldn’t the Hillary we thought we knew have the courage (and power) to stop that?  If she can’t stop it, I think she should resign, or at least speak out against it!!
    .

  • csuzeq

    Anytime Obama has a chance to go against Americans, he does so happily.  Who are the dumba$$e$ who couldn’t see through this POS.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Jackie, you’re the fucking liar. Don’t dare try to tell posters here at NQ that you’ve never insulted Jews, never ripped Catholics simply because of a few pedophile priests, never mocked Mormons (think Mitt Romney), and never ever insulted people who have a religious objection to abortion. And what makes your religious intolerance even more disgusting, is your two faced defense of hypocrites like Reid and Pelosi for their creepy positions on abortion that are in direct defiance of the religions that merely exploit for political expediency. If you weren’t such a pathetic chicken shit, you wouldn’t erase all of your posts, and I could find all sorts of examples to prove my point. But since you are an intellectual coward, you intentionally erase your posts so that you can never be called out on your mountains of prior bullshit. Personally, I distinctly remember an instance where you mistakenly inferred that I believed in the Devil when I merely used the Devil as a familiar and universally accepted metaphor for evil in general. Your mocking little catty dig made it clear that you equated people who believe in the Devil with people who believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.

    Of all the posters here at NQ, you’re by far the biggest bigot, racist, and shameless hypocrite. The fact that you can’t recognize this is typical, because foul natured morons like you are incapable of recognizing their faults, so they never seek to remedy them.

  • Nellie

    Eighteen months has brough our country so much agony, I for one, have no aversion to IMPEACHMENT, long before 2012.

  • csuzeq

    She’d look much better.  We wouldn’t have to see that nasty scowl.  Although we would have to still see those angry eyes.  Maybe they can add sun glasses or something.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    The Bullshit from Mile High is your dear leader! LOL and dont forget his StyroFoam columns!

  • csuzeq

    Most likely they have ACORN or whatever many names they call themselves ready to go again.  In a real election, he wouldn’t win, but cheaters…well…call me afraid.  Obama cheated once, why should we think he can’t again?  We have done nothing to make sure it can’t be repeated.  :’(   That should have been PUMAs main goal after Barfy won.

  • driguana

    How do we know that Obama did well at Harvard Law? No records have ever been produced and, as far as we can discern, he only ever wrote ONE law review while with the Harvard Law Review. We are told he is smart. We are told he is an eloquent speaker. We are told he is charming…..reality seems to be painting a very different picture.

  • Nellie

    Noogan,

    In SE Mass a Doctors’ son threw acid into the face of a police WOMAN when she tried to stop him last Sunday. This “42″ year old kid’s ancestors came on a couple of boats after the Mayflower.

    So where did he get he idea that throwing acid at a woman was a great idea?

    Immigration is much more than about quotos. It is about customs, acceptable behavior laws, a willingness to work, learn the laguage and mores etc – all things AMERICAN in a nutshell.

    Larry’s point is well taken – other than some indvidual efforts, when and where have Muslims contributed as a whole to American Society?

    See for yourself – the link is here

    http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1028352169/Fall-River-man-charged-with-throwing-acid-at-police-officer

  • Nellie

    Did Rose Kennedy own a blcka dress – Yup and more than one!

  • Nellie

    A Burqa would be a moumental improvement over her current wardrobe.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Jackie, you’re the fucking liar. Don’t dare try to tell posters here at NQ that you’ve never insulted Jews, never ripped Catholics simply because of a few pedophile priests, never mocked Mormons (think Mitt Romney), and never ever insulted people who have a religious objection to abortion. And what makes your religious intolerance even more disgusting, is your two faced defense of hypocrites like Reid and Pelosi for their creepy positions on abortion that are in direct defiance of the religions that they merely exploit for political expediency. If you weren’t such a pathetic chicken shit, you wouldn’t erase all of your posts, and I could find all sorts of examples to prove my point. But since you are an intellectual coward, you intentionally erase your posts so that you can never be called out on your mountains of prior bullshit. Personally, I distinctly remember an instance where you mistakenly inferred that I believed in the Devil when I merely used the Devil as a familiar and universally accepted metaphor for evil in general. Your mocking little catty dig made it clear that you equated people who believe in the Devil with people who believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.  
     
    Of all the posters here at NQ, you’re by far the biggest bigot, racist, and shameless hypocrite. The fact that you can’t recognize this is typical, because foul natured morons like you are incapable of recognizing their faults, so they never seek to remedy them.

  • Carmen
  • Onofre’s arm

    “The forces of anti-gay bigotry in this country are led by Republican Christian conservatives, aided and abetted by a much smaller but influential number of Democrats.  Simply focusing your ire at the Democrats over this ignores the GOP elephant in the room.”

    Gosh Jackie, doesn’t this particular paragraph drip with your obvious contempt for Christians and smear them for their religious beliefs regarding same sex marriage. You stinking maggot!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    jwjr said: “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality..”   In what world is this true? 


    In DisneyWorld, of course!

  • Noogan

    Nellie: Do you think Christianity should be smeared as a religion because one Christian murders his wife in a brutal nightmarish spree? Really?

    I don’t doubt your story in the least. I don’t support building the Mosque near Ground Zero in NY. But I reject your implication. Anecdotal evidence of Muslims who are violent does not negate the millions of innocent Muslims who have lived in and participated in this country since the beginning, contributing their talents, and their lives. Muslims died on 9-11 too, in the Twin Towers. 

    You clearly do not know how the vast majority of Muslims live, and this is not how they exercise their religious beliefs. Are you willing to smear the entire religion of christianity because one evangelical christian has precipitated the slaughter of more than a million people–hundreds of thousands of them women and children–in Iraq? 

    I am not. To do so is bigotry, and ignorant xenophobia. There have been Muslims living in this country since the beginning; many were brought here as slaves. They have participated PEACEFULLY and honestly in the development and governance of this nation for 2 hundred years and more. 

    Yet here you are, in your narrow space of history, presuming that they are all the same as the hijackers who attacked the US on 9-11; worse, you are ignoring the massively murderous impact our own policies have had on Muslims around the world–in Indonesia, where we actively participated in the slaughter of 5 MILLION people, for one example, but there are too many more examples throughout the centuries to even count them all. 
    We’ve murdered MILLIONS in the name of Christianity through the centuries. 

  • cat

    <img src=”file:///C:/Users/caty/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png”/>

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?s=sharia

  • jbjd

    JeannieB, been there, done that.  Over a year ago.  Still going strong.

    IF YOU THINK BARACK OBAMA IS SO SMART, PROVE IT

  • jbjd

    JeannieB, been there, done that.  Two years ago.  Still going strong. 
     
    IF YOU THINK BARACK OBAMA IS SO SMART, PROVE IT

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Of course she did, it is written in shari’a law.  And so has spoken the judge in NJ who refused a restraining order against her husband soley based on his rights to do with her as he wished under shari’a law.

    Thank God he was overturned by a higher court, but how long before the higher courts will accept such a defense?  I have been stupid enough my entire life to think that we were to be “equal under the law”, guess Muslims get a pass.

  • jbjd

    Clara, this Jew did her homework.  That’s why he lost me at the beginning of the primaries.  (First week in February, to be exact when, just to be certain I had made the right choice, I looked up his foreign policy advisers,assuming they would be following him into the WH; and found Samantha Power. ‘nuf said.)

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Sorry, the 2nd sentence should read, And as has spoken a judge in NJ who refused a WOMAN (not the beheaded wife)…..

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Okay Noogan, you’ve outed yourself.

    Ignore the troll.

    Better yet, cut off the privilege of posting here.  That’s weill be closer to the sharia law Noogan so loves!

    Eye for an Eye, dimwit.  You deserve it.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I started referring to him as the Manchurian Jihadist during the campaign shortly after his interview with Jake Trapper where Obutt stated the sweetest sound in the world is the Muslim call to prayer, then proceeded to say the prayer in perfect Arabic.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    You clearly do not know how the vast majority of Muslims live,

    Do you live in a Muslim Community Noogan? Have you see it up close and personal? Not talking of war here. A Community?? I have seen how it took over my country of birth. So don’t be dictating how we should feel or look at an issue we do not agree fully with!

  • Nellie

    Good Points creeper!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    You clearly do not know how the vast majority of Muslims live, 
    Do you live in a Muslim Community Noogan? Have you see it up close and personal? Not talking of war here. A Community?? I have seen how it took over my country of birth. So don’t be dictating how we should feel or look at an issue we do not agree fully with! 

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    O’s a freaking muslim.  He can lie to ‘infidels’ and it is okay under his religion.

    He is the antichrist on so many levels.  The deceiver among us.  And I’m not even religious in the strictest sense, and I can see he’s the one we were warned about.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I can’t find the article right now, but there was an article where someone had contacted Trinity church and was told that Obutt had walked down the aisle, but had never been baptised.  It was apparently common at Trinity that members would walk down the aisle, supposedly accepting God, but would never go through a baptisim as they were muslim and could “walk the aisle” supposedly accepting God, but could never be baptised as that would betray their real religion.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Precious??? Maybe reality one day ;)

  • Carmen

    Muslims also claim that they came here before Columbus! LOL! http://hnn.us/articles/23662.html

  • getfitnow

    Sorry, I don’t trust any of them anymore.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I wish I felt confident that even in November we could rid Congress of The Manchurian Jihadist apostles.  Unfortunately between Acorn (who still exists under many new names), the Unions, corrupt Secretaries of State and a DOJ that will do nothing, I fear that many elections will be fraudulently stolen, again.  And with all the Soros money and the corrupt organized labor movement I am not sure that Ogod will not only run but win again in 2012.

  • getfitnow

    Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw need to hang their heads in shame. Talk about a couple of tools.

  • felizarte

    Where are these “peaceful Muslims now” to persuade those who would want to build the mosque near ground zero, that it shows insensitivity, lack of empathy, for the majority who feel hurt/offended/violated by the presence of the mosque?

    Christianity acknowledges the individual, (as in the U.S. Constitution) and individuals are meant to answer for their own crimes that is why it is inherent in Christianity not to hold/condemn the faith due to the crimes/wrongdoing of individual/s

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I feel he is a Jihadist and I sometimes wonder if he and MObutt have not decided to become martyr’s.  What else could possibly give credence to what they are doing? Yeah, many things, but it has been in the back of my mind that he is more than willing to give his life for Allah.

  • Nellie

    Deapthrowt,

    and a prep school background – sorry but his ACTION prove the lie he  never spent 8 years at Pahou (grades 5-12) – perhaps a few intercession courses while visiting his maternal grandoarents. Even Joh Kerry’s behaviors in public show that at least he DID attend private schools.

    Obamas public behaviors are so vulgar, and petty – that either he DID NOT attend Panahou for 8 consecutive school years or it is the absolute worst private school in the entire world – Ghetto Chic is what Obama’s behaviors scream!

  • Nice Try

    A bunch of bigots on here. You guys are really reaching for something to critize Obama with on this one.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Flagged for being repetitive and a troll.^^^^

  • felizarte

    The cipher 0 was in use in China, the Arab world, long before Islam came into the picture and before Christianity which preceded Islam.  We should not equate Arabic with Islam.

  • Peggy Sue

    Well, again Noogan, you and I agree.  This whole thread has turned into an ugly and irrational spew of hate.  I, too, oppose the mosque construction. But condemning an entire religion for the actions of the 9/11 terrorists and jihadists is just crass bigotry.  Demonizing groups of people has been used throughout history as a political distraction.  With horrific results. We need to remember that.

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    I have two guns behid my blade of grass.  Ruger 357 magnum and a stevens shotgun.  oh that reminds me…time to buy more amo

  • darkknight

    I have been following this website since Obama beat Hillary in 2008 and I was a big supporter of Hillary. I am a Muslim-American and found comfort and support here. The amount of venom here against my faith is disgusting.

  • kinthenorthwest

    When Obama constantly gives call outs for Muslim holidays and ignores Jewish or Chrisitian Holidays something just dont smell right…
    On top of that Obama took away the Country’s Day of Prayer that had been in place for a couple of centuries. 
    WHY
    Obama seems to be making Very sure all of Americal knows, along with knowing Obama knows when all the Muslim holidays are.  WHY?

    TY for the bigot label NiceTry, but I dont think most of here can accept it. 

    You see the Biggot Label belongs to our President, along with the label of Racist.

  • cat

    Reaching?
    Fox News Poll: 64 Percent Think It’s Wrong to Build Mosque Near Ground Zero

    FOXNews.com – Fox News Poll: 64 Percent Think It’s Wrong to Build Mosque Near Ground Zero

    64% of us are reaching.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    This whole thread has turned into an ugly and irrational spew of hate. 
    Peggy, people are offering their views like you do constantly, some out of fear, some out of the unknown some who just blatantly do not want a mosque at ground zero… We are all entitled to our opinions “The Crazies” etc comes to mind. Who is irrational????
    However, put your money where your mouth is. Let me and my friends arrange a vacation for you right in the heart of a Muslim community. You may get an eye opener. Never forgetting, what happened on 9/11 the murderous act of killing over 3,000!
    We will pick you a hotel deep inside “no man’s land” (woman) so to speak. Where you will feel uncomfortable walking in daylight, forget nighttime. I’m game how about you? Plus how can you make an educated assumption if you have never seen it up close and personal?? Don’t call us we will come get you after a week. You may have a different perspective then.
    We are not talking biblical times and put the political views aside. Come get a look from the street side then offer advice to us what we can and cannot voice.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    This whole thread has turned into an ugly and irrational spew of hate.   
    Peggy, people are offering their views like you do constantly, some out of fear, some out of the unknown some who just blatantly do not want a mosque at ground zero… We are all entitled to our opinions “The Crazies” etc comes to mind. Who is irrational????  
    However, put your money where your mouth is. Let me and my friends arrange a vacation for you right in the heart of a Muslim community. You may get an eye opener. Never forgetting, what happened on 9/11 the murderous act of killing over 3,000!  
    We will pick you a hotel deep inside “no man’s land” (woman) so to speak. Where you will feel uncomfortable walking in daylight, forget nighttime. I’m game how about you? Plus how can you make an educated assumption if you have never seen it up close and personal?? Don’t call us we will come get you after a week. You may have a different perspective then.  
    We are not talking biblical times and put the political views aside. Come get a look from the street side then offer advice to us what we can and cannot voice.  
     

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    I find your venom against my gender revotlting and terrifying.  You’re not fooling anyone.  You think women are slaves.  You can take your burka and shove it up your ass

  • jbjd

    Who said anything about your faith?  We object to the President’s insistence a mosque will be built so close to ‘Ground Zero.’ You know, all Muslims do not thing alike.
    http://www.jeffjacoby.com/7568/a-mosque-at-ground-zero-moderate-muslims-say-no

  • jbjd

    Who said anything about your faith?  We object to the President’s insistence a mosque will be built so close to ‘Ground Zero.’ You know, all Muslims do not think alike. 
    http://www.jeffjacoby.com/7568/a-mosque-at-ground-zero-moderate-muslims-say-no

  • Peggy Sue

    You obviously can’t read, Just Me.  I never said people aren’t entitled to think what they think, feel what they feel.

    But hate and bigotry are still ugly.  Read your history.  It never ends well.

  • bamaLV

    and lets NEVER forget how the muslims here and abroad, cheered in the streets after 9/11.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I am a Muslim-American and found comfort and support here. The amount of venom here against my faith is disgusting.
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    Condemn terrorism in no uncertain terms and discussions can begin. But not until then. Get it now?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Hi OBSP!  Long time!  Glad you are back!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I read very well thank you! Plus people are able to voice their opinions on what they think and feel. There is not as much “hate” or “bigotry” from the posters here as you class it… than there was on 9/11…..?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    They are products of Affirmative Action.  They have been given a pass throughout life because of their one defining marker, skin tone. Therefore they are special because of this and the expectations have been wiped away.  

    Now, when they have been passed up to the highest plateau and are expected to really stand-up and produce they don’t know how. There’s a huge difference between earning your place and being coddled into your place.  The later is doomed to fail.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I read very well thank you! And History??? Please, we only need look or read as far back as 9/11… Posters are able to voice their opinions on what they think and feel. There is not as much “hate” or “bigotry” from the posters here “as you class it”… than going to work one morning and either jumping to your death or burning alive!
    This was what you were trying to get across????
    This whole thread has turned into an ugly and irrational spew of hate. 
    I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I read very well thank you! And History??? Please, we only need look or read as far back as 9/11… Posters are able to voice their opinions on what they think and feel. There is not as much “hate” or “bigotry” from the posters here “as you class it”… than going to work one morning and either jumping to your death or burning alive!  
    This was what you were trying to get across????  
    This whole thread has turned into an ugly and irrational spew of hate.   
    I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!  

  • Jackie

    “Don’t dare try to tell posters here at NQ that you’ve never insulted Jews, never ripped Catholics simply because of a few pedophile priests, never mocked Mormons (think Mitt Romney), and never ever insulted people who have a religious objection to abortion.”

    I have never, ever insulted anyone of the Jewish faith, nor mocked or even here discussed the issue of pedophelia among some Catholic priests, nor ever mocked Mormonism.  I have never even raised any of those issues here, much less attacked anyone over them.  You are either making up these accusations, or mistakenly attributing them to me.  You have it completely wrong either way.  Produce some quotes on those issues, or quit lying about my past statements.

    As to abortion rights, while I have never “insulted people who have a religious objection to abortion”, I am certainly a passionate defender of a woman’s right to choose, and advocate that right accordingly. 

    I think what is going on here is that–as so often occurs with you–you are mistaking disagreement for “insulting”.  As in, if someone like me disagrees with you on an issue and says as much, that person has “insulted” you.  Your ego is that fragile, your confidence in your positions so insecure, your rhetoric so weak that the moment someone challenges you on an issue, you have been “insulted”.  And that is typically when you accuse that person of blowing someone else.  That’s all you have left.  You have the debating skills of a 12-year old boy scrawling on a junior high bathroom stall.

    “If you weren’t such a pathetic chicken shit, you wouldn’t erase all of your posts, and I could find all sorts of examples to prove my point. But since you are an intellectual coward, you intentionally erase your posts so that you can never be called out on your mountains of prior bullshit.”

    You abject fool.  Don’t you understand how the monitoring/censorship system works on this website?  All it takes is 5 people to “flag” a post, and it is automatically deleted.  Being that I am perhaps the most unpopular commenter on the site, it is a damn sure bet that that is why you don’t see most of my old posts.  I have never deleted any of my old posts.  Not once.  This has been explained to you about 10,000 times.  I am not going to explain it anymore.

    “Personally, I distinctly remember an instance where you mistakenly inferred that I believed in the Devil when I merely used the Devil as a familiar and universally accepted metaphor for evil in general.”

    Yes, I do recall a post where you made a statement that read to the effect that you believed in the Devil.  I simply asked you if that’s what you meant, and you predictably flew off the handle.  Most adults would appreciate the opportunity for clarification.  Most adults, however, have an I.Q. over 80.

    “Your mocking little catty dig made it clear that you equated people who believe in the Devil with people who believe in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy. “

    No, that’s just your fathomless insecurity once again projecting itself onto my words.  You’re the one dragging Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy into it, not me.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Then rethink your faith.

  • Jackie

    “Gosh Jackie, doesn’t this particular paragraph drip with your obvious contempt for Christians and smear them for their religious beliefs regarding same sex marriage. You stinking maggot!”

    No, it obviously doesn’t at all.  Clearly, not all or even most Christians are “Republican Christian conservatives”, the group I was specifically referring to.  Also 2+2=4.  The world is not flat.  The moon is not made out of cheese.  I’m here to help with any of the other basics you need filled in for you.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Peggy—Jesus, himself, was bigoted, comparing Gentiles to dogs.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    ~JustMe~ Excellent comment!

  • Nellie

    Excellent article. Thanks for sharing your find.

  • Jackie

    Gosh, somehow NQ’s village idiot named Jackie has somehow taken down her (its–never know what gender to assign a bot) first comment.  But I see follow up comments.”

    Diana, my original comment is still posted up thread.  I’m not sure why you can’t see it.  Here it is again, for your reading pleasure:

    *****************

    What the President said tonight was brave.  It goes a long way in defending a minority that is, frankly, being persecuted for the actions of a fringe, extremist element of their broad religion. 
     
    Defending the “Ground Zero Mosque” isn’t the popular thing to do.  It isn’t the politically expedient thing to do.  It’s just the right thing to do.  Obama doesn’t get anything out of doing this.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    ~JustMe~ Your comments on this subject are excellent!

  • Required Reading

    Hate and bigotry against the Nazis ended just fine, if you ask me.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Hope you don’t mind OA if I butt in here… need to climb down off my high horse here ;)

    Jackie : Fuck off

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Hope you don’t mind OA, if I butt in… need to climb down off my high horse here. ;)

    Jackie, Fuck Off!!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Peggy Sue,
    P.S. I am very bigoted towards any dogma that demeans women, such as the Muslims, the radical wing of Southern Baptists, and others. I will go as far to say that I do NOT honor the right of any one to practice a religion that demeans women. (women cannot pray with men in a mosque, and in some countries are not allowed inside)
    Nothing wrong with well-placed predjudice like that…and it might just save your life.

  • Onofre’s arm

    No Jackie, you stupid twit, you very clearly called anyone who voted for proposition 8 BIGOTS! More specifically, your paragraph is a simple declarative statement: Republican Christian conservatives are anti-gay bigots. This clearly reveals your contempt for people who are merely following the principles of their religion. Even though you have deleted all but 14 of your countless posts, there it was, a perfect example of the kind of ridicule and religious intolerance that I correctly accused you of with my earlier post. Check Mate.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    You can lead a braying jack(ie)ass to the truth but you can’t make them understand, ~~JustMe~~. I wish it would be banned for spam.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    We don’t want your help, Jackie.  Why can’t you get that simple concept?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Okay, all you muslim supporters.  Explain that! ^^^^^

    On second thought, don’t.  There’s no defense for hatred and murder perpetrated by the “religion of peace”.  

  • Onofre’s arm

    “I have never deleted any of my old posts.  Not once.” 

    Wow Jackie, the lies just keep coming! Some time back, you flatly admitted that you delete many of your own posts, and that you posted under different names with the lame excuse that you were getting censored. I realize that many of your posts get flagged, but not ALL of them, and the only way that hundreds of your posts from threads long gone could have been erased is if YOU did it, because there is nobody who considers you to be much more than a mentally disturbed cretin,who would bother going back to flag all of your idiotic posts.

    And don’t lecture me about projection, you’re the Queen of Freudian projection. The fact that you always copy and paste every post that you respond to, is a perfect example. Since you yourself constantly delete your own posts, you make the subsequent responses to your posts become non-contextual. So, just like a thief who is constantly on vigilant guard to protect his own belongings, you cut and paste other comments so that people can’t do to YOU what you constantly do to THEM. You are severely mentally and emotionally disturbed, so it’s no surprise that you’re a rabid Obama disciple.  

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Yes, he did and he was also a close friend of the Dunham family in HI.  Davis was an admitted pedophile and little Barry’s “uncle”.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Then apparently you stopped reading and closed your mind. Where do you
    see venom towards religion or are you so closed off youo cannot tolerate
    any discussion that doesn’t pain your religion flowery?

    You can’t handle anyone speaking truths and having a cialogue? We must be
    your way or the highway?

    Because we have a mind and think for ourselves and fully endorse
    FREEDOMS, RIGHTS, not freedoms or rights for only some?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    jackie-blah is the consumate liar. It makes stuff up out of whole cloth, keeps repeating it until the rational among us give up, and, like the child it is, keeps coming back for more because it does not understand simple concepts such as boundaries. It’s a High-school drop out who knows enough about cut and paste to make our lives miserable here. You can’t fix stupid and jackie(ass) is stupid. I’ll just bet she’s fugly, too.

  • Docelder

    It isn’t like they can’t have another mosque… just why the need to perch it atop the fallen world trade towers if not to claim the turf? Nobody is saying they can’t practice their religion. But I say they deserve no more special treatment than the Davidians at Waco got. A cult is a cult. At least the Davidians weren’t stoning people to death or cutting heads off or mutilating women.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Those crickets are deafening, darkknight. Where’s that condemnation?

  • kenoshamarge

    Yawn, flag, swat.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    A bunch of bigots on here. You guys are really reaching for something to critize Obama with on this one.
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    Fuck off Inadequate Try. you’re flagged for irrelevance, to boot.

  • oowawa

    “just why the need to perch it atop the fallen world trade towers if not to claim the turf?”

    IMHO it is a matter of claiming the “turf,” like a dog pissing on bushes, or like graffiti artists “tagging” urban structures with spray paint . . .

  • Jackie

    “Some time back, you flatly admitted that you delete many of your own posts, and that you posted under different names with the lame excuse that you were getting censored.”

    No.  The first part of your sentence is flatly untrue.  I have never “flatly admitted” to deleting any of my own posts.  It’s never happened, I never said that, you are MAKING THAT UP.  Stop lying about me.

    As to the second part: yes, some time ago, I freely admitted that awhile back, I changed handles on occasion, because my current handle was constantly being blocked from posting anything.  Since the advent of the new monitoring/censorship system, handles don’t get blocked, so I have remained as “Jackie” for at least a year or more.

    “I realize that many of your posts get flagged, but not ALL of them, and the only way that hundreds of your posts from threads long gone could have been erased is if YOU did it, because there is nobody who considers you to be much more than a mentally disturbed cretin,who would bother going back to flag all of your idiotic posts.”

    Then take it up with your friends here, sweetie.  They are the ones doing the flagging.  It is actually an EXTREMELY EASY way for the collective NQ to delete disagreeable posts.  No one has to “go back to flag” anything.  Someone scrolls through, sees my name, clicks “Flag”.  Ferd and others freely admit to flagging me on site.  If five people have a default rule to flag me on site, guess what?  ALMOST EVERYTHING I WRITE EVENTUALLY IS DELETED.  IT’S CALLED FUCKING “MATH”.  LOOK IT UP.

    “The fact that you always copy and paste every post that you respond to, is a perfect example. Since you yourself constantly delete your own posts, you make the subsequent responses to your posts become non-contextual. So, just like a thief who is constantly on vigilant guard to protect his own belongings, you cut and paste other comments so that people can’t do to YOU what you constantly do to THEM.”

    Oh My God.  You are completely insane.  You need to take your Klonopin.  The conspiracy theories have reached Event Horizon with you.  Calm the fuck down.

    And naturally, this follows:

    “You are severely mentally and emotionally disturbed, so it’s no surprise that you’re a rabid Obama disciple.”

    Only the most deranged of individuals could follow up that massive, pathetic conspiracy theory about why I–gasp–quote other people’s words back to them, with the above accusation.  You are completely fucked in the head.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    IMHO it is a matter of claiming the “turf,” like a dog pissing on bushes, or like graffiti artists “tagging” urban structures with spray paint . . .
    ============
    That is it, exactly, oowawa.

  • Nellie

    Noogan,

    This statement is ridiculous – You clearly do not know how the vast majority of Muslims live, and this is not how they exercise their religious beliefs

    What YOU obviously are not aware of is that George Bush Senior gave out F-1 Visas (Foreign Student) like Penny Candy starting in the early 1980′s. I taught at a small NE college for 20 years.

    Since the “agent” for our colleges had the ME, E Africa and Pacific Rim as their “territory”, I certainly DO know how Muslims live and Act. I also allowed my home to be used for prayer during Ramadan, until I and others could persuade the college to give them a place for a mosque and their feasts.

    Depending on country of origin, Muslims as a group,  ranged from Moderates (Turkey and Indonesia-Suharto’s youngest son was a student) to extreme from E Africa.

    In my expperience family honor is first, then to those of their OWN faith from their country of roigin, and LASTLY to Muslims of other countries, based on similarity in culture.

     In addition to teaching, the state I live in has strong “In Locus Parentis” laws. That means in addition to being faculy, we were considered by law to be parents in  place as their own were not there.

    There are some very good things about Islam. One year the elected Iman made an effort to get “technically correct Qurans” for myself and some other members of faculty who worked with them if their issues were just. We also allowed select students live in our homes and hosted their parents for weeks at a time during graduation celebrations.

    Conversely, I also spent many nights at local hospitals, where mostly women were beaten, or severly, burned or maimed.

    Myself and others became adept enough to know that when there was a crowd of Muslims from a given area in a parking lot at night, and an eldest son  was in the center, speaking to a group of agitated males, there was going to be trouble.

    Since we had agreed there would NEVER be taizering of students allowed, all staff living within 5 miles of campus was on call and needed to authorize the campus police to handle or arrest somone before they could do other than restain someone out of control.

    My two worst experiences in the middle of the  night were:

    1. A Saudi male had tied a female American up and was beating her with a chain because she was not a Virgin.

    2. After NAFTA passed in the 90′s, a group of Muslims brought l guns and ammunition from Mexico and buried them in a paint ball field in the woods of a nearby small town. The local city police learned about the guns. The Muslims, without proof, blamed a Turk, who lived with a faculty family and had really integrated well. As I was on call, I arrived to find that African Muslims had sliced the skin around his face and were trying to rip it off.

    Myself and others even helped over 50 Muslims stay and obtain their American citizenship.

    My point is that  Muslim customs encourage violence as revenge, has an extremely narrow view about the value of woman, and prevents most, not all, from truly integrating with American values and Mores.

    Yes there have been INDIVIDUALS, such as the 50 I mentioned above, and in your link, who deserved the efforts made to become Americans. The majority however, are 3-4 generations way from true integration. That is just plain fact.

    Even now,  in my own neighborhhod are 2 Pakistan Taliban familes. The women are likable and itelligent. However, when the wife of the youngest brother is proud of herself because her husband allows her to wear jeans to go shopping at a mall, after 17 years in this country, they are no where near assimilated.

    You may try to deny it, but there absolutely are marriage brokers illegally here. Woman, such as the wife of the Times Square Idiot playing with gasolene, are traded  like cattle to the highest, best educated bidder.  Doweries are illegal here. Many Muslims use their archaic system of marriage brokers, and women raised in traditional families to gain entrancww to the USA. Frankly, they should not be here.

    There is an expression-When in Rome do as the Romans do-in others words assimilate into the culture in which you live. The rigidity of Islam precludes that, except for the minority who are able to overcome the ideology and truly want to become part of our society.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    OA was correct about you, jackie-blah. You delete your own comments, blame us, and then get your need for undivided attention fulfilled. Go find yourself a hotel room where you can adore yourself, dickweed. Kindly leave us out of your psychotic proclivities, cow.

  • Nellie

    My apologies for the spelling erros-my youngest grandchild was Helping!!

  • felizarte

    The system used now is referred to as the Hindu-Arabic; started by the Hindus in India, refined/amplified by a Persian and further on through the ages. but symbols for Zero also appeared with the Mayan and earlier cultures.

    Peoples shouldn’t be given whole credits for things that involved many cultures/nations.

  • Jackie

    No Jackie, you stupid twit, you very clearly called anyone who voted for proposition 8 BIGOTS!”

    Not all of them may be bigots, but it was definitely a bigoted vote to make.  And history will shame them for it.

    “More specifically, your paragraph is a simple declarative statement: Republican Christian conservatives are anti-gay bigots.”

    The vast majority of Republican Christian conservatives do not believe that gay people should be afforded the same rights as straight people.  Simply because they are gay.  That position is a bigoted one.  Ask RRRA if you need any further clarification on that. 

    “This clearly reveals your contempt for people who are merely following the principles of their religion.”

    I fail to see why a bigoted “principle” gets a pass simply because it is tucked inside someone’s religion.  Especially when that “principle” compels them to deprive another individual of their basic human rights. 

    Some Muslims interpret their religion to believe that it commands them to murder Christians and Jews.  I assume you don’t give them a pass simply because they “are merely following the principles of their religion”. 

    The Bible also bans tattoos, fabric blends, and the eating of shellfish.  I guess all of us are going to Hell, aren’t we?

  • felizarte

    Buzz,
    Let’s give it time to percolate.  This time, he’s done it. We have to see how the evangelicals among his base will react; as well as the non-muslims in the unions.  As one commenter in the media pointed out, he took a local NY issue and made it into a USA issue.  It is not something that can be swept under the rug of MSM like his private comment re- bitter, bible and gun clinging Americans. From ripples in the NY pond, he turned it into a potential tidal wave in the USA ocean of public opinion.  

  • ~~JustMe~~

    That’s OK Nellie, start them understanding from a young age ;)

  • guest

    Jackie, me and 2 friends go through this site twice a day and flag EVERY single comment that is a personal insult or attack on someone for nothing more than a different opinion about something.  Join me in this cause and THEIR hateful slurs will start to disappear. 

  • felizarte

    I wonder if Obama will be fasting as well, for Ramadan.  

  • Onofre’s arm

    “No.  The first part of your sentence is flatly untrue.  I have never “flatly admitted” to deleting any of my own posts.  It’s never happened, I never said that, you are MAKING THAT UP.  Stop lying about me.”  

    Jackie, you are obviously a pathological liar, and it is pointless to attempt a reasonable discussion with someone who is so detached from truth and reality. YOU ARE THE LIAR JACKIE! When you claim you’ve never deleted your own posts YOU’RE LYING! You lied when you claimed that you’ve never ridiculed people for their religious beliefs, in the 14 posts that you haven’t deleted I found a perfect example of that ridicule. 

    Of course, the real elephant in the room regarding your mental condition, is the fact that you keep coming back to a site where you are clearly despised by EVERYONE, and setting your paranoid  delusions of censorship aside, if every single one of your posts actually was being flagged into oblivion, what does it say about your mental health that you keep returning here to post your demented comments when you firmly believe they’ll all be flagged? I’m sure that there’s probably a technical psychological term for someone who’s so mentally ill that they; 1. Keep returning to groups where they are detested. 2. Keep lying even though they’ve been exposed as consummate liars. 3. Think that the idiocy that they endlessly blather is appreciated. And 4. Complain constantly about being picked on yet they keep returning for more. Since I don’t know the actual term, I’ll just start calling people with this particular constellation of crippling mental malfunctions “Jackies”. 

  • Jackie

    “I’m sure that there’s probably a technical psychological term for someone who’s so mentally ill that they; 1. Keep returning to groups where they are detested. 2. Keep lying even though they’ve been exposed as consummate liars. 3. Think that the idiocy that they endlessly blather is appreciated. And 4. Complain constantly about being picked on yet they keep returning for more. “

    No, but I will admit it is pretty amusing to see you completely lose your goddamn mind like that.

  • felizarte

    Is that why Michelle wears a scowl?

  • Jackie

    Jackie, me and 2 friends go through this site twice a day and flag EVERY single comment that is a personal insult or attack on someone for nothing more than a different opinion about something.  Join me in this cause and THEIR hateful slurs will start to disappear.”

    Consider me signed up.  We’ll just need one more person to follow-suit, and then we’ll have 5, and can effectively delete the mindless hate-speech in this place.  I will only flag comments that are nothing but personal attacks or attacks for simply a different point of you, as you said.  These people need to grow up.

  • Jackie

    “You delete your own comments, blame us, and then get your need for undivided attention fulfilled.”

    Prove it, Ferd.  Stop the practice of automatically flagging my comments, and encourage other to do the same.  If they stop disappearing, you’ll know why.

  • Jackie

    “a different point of you”

    That should be “different point of view“, not “you”.  Typing too fast.  Although I kind of like the accidental phrase, too…

  • guest

    “These people need to grow up.”

    exactly.  just because you are old in years does NOT mean you are wiser!

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Jackie-blah, shut your bovine fucking maw. No one here cares a tinker’s cuss about the voices echoing around that empty fucking area you call our brain. I will flag your bovine comments as I see fit, cow. Why don’t you get it through that impenetratable skull of yours that you are an anathema to this web site? You are such a glutton for punishment that you keep coming back for the abuse you so richly deserve. Fuck you, bitch, and the unicorn you rode in on.

    Perch and rotate, tart.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Your English is atrocious, pest. You should have stated “Two friends and I”.

    You’re in good company with jackie, moron.

  • AbigailAdams

    The problem with that, Ferd, is that extreme islamists do not view terrorism as terrorism — it’s jihad.  Thus condemnation does not make sense to them.  But I take your point.  Where are the muslims who practice the unadulterated faith and not the sharia ideology?  We haven’t heard from them.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Big Guy/Gal huh! Need a flagger badge?
    Hey admin do we have flagger badges to give out to the kids or stickers….?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    These people need to grow up.
    ==============
    This coming from a 12-year old, wet-nbehind-the-ears troll. LMAO, jackie-blah.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    This is in response to the Dems claiming because Obama is (isn’t?) Muslim he could straighten out the Muddle East.  Unfortunately, he took that part of the propaganda seriously.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I think admin needs to ban these teeny-boppers (yeah, I’m that old).

  • My Site (click to edit)

    He’s not tired of being prez.  Just watch how hard he’ll fight to stay in office.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Big Guy/Gal huh! Need a flagger badge? 
    Hey admin do we have flagger badges to give out to the kids or stickers….?
    ========================
    I think admin needs to ban these teeny-boppers (yeah, I’m that old).

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     I will only flag comments that are nothing but personal attacks or attacks for simply a different point of you,
    ===============
    How many other points of that troll do you know, jackie-blue?

    LMAO at the selectively cut-and-paste troll who just got hers in spades.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    I agree. I still believe the country is bigger than he is.

  • arabella trefoil

    I didn’t endorse the mosque, says Barry O.

    “Obama says Mosque Remarks Were Not an Endorsement”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/us/politics/15mosque.html?_r=1&hp

    quotage:

     ”President Obama said Saturday that in defending the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque near ground zero in Lower Manhattan, he was “not commenting on the wisdom” of that project, but rather trying to uphold the broader principle that government should treat “everyone equal, regardless” of religion. ”

    Read the whole article.

    The Republicans had a few choice words for Barry-O.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Jackie, me and 2 friends go through this site twice a day and flag EVERY single comment that is a personal insult or attack on someone for nothing more than a different opinion about something.  Join me in this cause and THEIR hateful slurs will start to disappear.”
    ============================
    Troll alert and an admitted one.
     
    How do you define personal, insult, attack, hateful, and slurs, kid? Thought so, little thing.

  • Daisy Mae

    So peace and kindness of your faith have everything to do with conciliation by sticking it to 3,000 dead and their families?  Let me add, that “families” means most Americans who mourn all these people and the terrible actions.  

    Let’s discuss how you feel about the following:  So, do women sit equally with men in your Mosque? How do you feel about female genital mutilation?  Apartheidism with burqas, hijabs, niqabs? Why don’t more moderate Muslims speak out about treatment of women and minorities?  

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Guest and Jackie FLAGGED for trying to hijack a blog that is not theirs.

    Guess they don’t like freedom of speech from others.  In their world only their opinion counts.

    Flag ‘em!

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Nice Try is supposed to be banned via Larry.

    ADMIN?

  • Onofre’s arm

    Ferd, don’t you think it’s quite a coincidence that “Guest” and it’s two imaginary friends just suddenly popped out of the ether to defend Jackie and threaten to team up with her to delete posts? Perhaps we can add “dissociative personality disorder” to  Jackie’s many other mental illnesses.  

  • Jackie

    “Fuck you, bitch, and the unicorn you rode in on.”

    “Perch and rotate, tart.”

    But whatever you do, don’t call Ferd sexist.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Perhaps we can add “dissociative personality disorder” to  Jackie’s many other mental illnesses
    ==================
    Yeah, OA, we have a delusional skid-row denizen here who needs that Colt-45 fix and often, to the point where it creates new personalities to get additional attention and the $0.05 per post to purchase the grog. Jackie is two-faced with multiple personalities which means there are many permutations and combinations possible with it.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Barry’s Bible! I was for it before I was against it!
    The “notion” anyone would understand me differently?????
    What I meant to say was…..
    Mind-blowing!

  • Noogan

    Oh, Really? I’ve “outted” myself? How so, Buzz Latte? Because I recoil from xenophobia and bigotry? Isn’t that ironic? I’m a “troll” because I won’t subscribe to bigotry against Muslims like the rest of you? Personally, I’m proud to be independent when it comes to your xenophobia against Muslims then. 

    Wave of Nativism Washes Over US

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0814-rutten-20100814,0,6271889.column

  • AbigailAdams

    Then we were wrong about his mocking Christians in this country by calling us bitter, “Bible clingers,” right?  Too bad he has to keep reinterpreting his remarks like this.

  • Noogan

    Sorry, Nellie, but I’ve been around for a very long time. And, I remember G. H.W. Bush. But I don’t remember any time in history when ethnic hatreds ever solved a thing. I particularly remember that at epochal points in history, entire populations were swept up in such xenophobias and it didn’t end well. 

    There were many people who indulged such hatreds during WWII. I can’t be swept up in such lies and propaganda against an entire people. 

    You really ought to do some reading. I just finished Richard Evan’s epic history of the Third Reich at War. You’ll find it shames your point of view. 

  • Noogan

    I’m flagging you Buzz Latte as the Fascist you are. 

  • Noogan

    You mean start them HATING at a young age. Shame on you. 

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0814-rutten-20100814,0,6271889.column

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Back at you, Noogan. You’ve been flagged for being an aggressive twit and harbinger of death and destruction sanctioned by religion.

  • lizzy

    Pleae don’t insult the Wookies.

  • Noogan

    Do you live in a Muslim community, ~~Just me~~?  

    If you don’t, how do you prove your bigotry? You don’t know the first thing about Muslims. But I know a lot about bigots. And, you fit the bill. 

    Bigots always indulge their base inclinations to hate things they don’t know a thing about. 

    Nativists have been around this country for a long time; they swept through Europe during the 30s and they devastated Europe during the 40s. Thank God some people had the better sense not to fall for it; or you’d be speaking German. 

  • lizzy

    Who would  she choose to design her burqa?

  • Noogan

    He’s a deceiver on many levels. But he’s not the anti-christ. 

    You’re not even religious in the strictest sense, but you know all about Islam!

    You’re a fool.

  • Noogan

    “Yeah, but you DO have to seek it out.” 

    Google Muslims against Sharia. 

    Google Muslims against Ground Zero Mosque.

    It’s not that hard, if you’re interested in getting the bigger picture. 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    “Fuck you, bitch, and the unicorn you rode in on.” 
     
    “Perch and rotate, tart.” 
     
    But whatever you do, don’t call Ferd sexist.
    ============
    No sexism here. I’m just calling out a stupid “it” who finds it necessary to forget boundaries and bother the regulars. That One is your pimp, so what am I supposed to think about you, tart?

    You want to get respect–then earn it by actually thinking and not spouting the Oblahblah line as you are wont to do. I didn’t like bushbots but I find your obamabot brand even more insidious because you don’t even understand the ramifications of your stupid cut-and-paste commentary. You are, in a word, stupid. Either go the fuck away or learn something about the policies your anointed one is proposing. I know I won’t get either from a mental deficient as you but a person can dream, huh?

  • Crackerjack -Obamastahn Rebel Resistance

    BACKPEDAL!! BACKPEDAL

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Listen; show me the hate in my post? Who’s the Bigot??? Hey just look in the mirror! Funny you know absolutely nothing about me LOL… Odd that huh!

  • Noogan

    Yeah, I’m old. Old enough to remember Jews being subjected to the same ethnic/religious bigotry that you are all indulging your lizard brains in today.

    I’m old enough to have studied a lot of history. And, I remember studying the “Know Nothing Party,” which, apparently, you’re all now members of:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

  • Noogan

    There are many Muslims who oppose the Mosque at Ground Zero. And, there are Muslims who oppose Sharia law as well. 

  • arabella trefoil

    I have the dead tree (paper) edition of today’s NY Times right here on my kitchen counter. (New York Times Late Edition, New York, August 14, 2010. Section A, front page, 4th column, right above the fold.)
     
     
    “Obama Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site”
    By Sheryl Gay Stolberg
     
    First two paragraphes:
     
    “WASHINGTON -  President Obama delivered a strong defense on Friday night of a proposed Muslim community center and mosque near ground zero in Manhattan, using a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan to proclaim that ‘as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practive their religion as anyyone else in this country.’
     
    After weeks of avoiding the high-profile battle over the center – his press secretary, Robert Gibbs, said last week that the president did not want ‘to get involved in local decision making – Mr. Obama stepped squarely into the thorny debate.”
     
    There’s a lot more, but that’s all I’m typing. My, my – I think I will save this copy of the New York Times rather than putting in the recycle bin. Do any of you think this edition might be historic?
     
    (I only get the NY Times because my mother likes me to help her with the crossword puzzles. Also, my otherwise intelligent husband thinks the New York Times is a newspaper.)
     

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    But hate and bigotry are still ugly.  Read your history.  It never ends well.
    ===============
    Especially where Jews are concerned, Peggy Sue. You see, one side of my family is Welsh but the other side is composed of the families Gray and Nash, so you’ll pardon me if I don’t buy the peaceful Moslems rubbish. We aren’t bigots but pragmatists who have learned from history. You can’t spin that one.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL if you went so pathetic you could be funny.
     
    WOW it’s all “Noogan” law:  Noogan thought. Noogan world? Move over everyone else, words get twisted in Noogan world! Noogan will choose your neighbors where you live and if you don’t want to be there just check in with Noogan!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL if you weren’t so pathetic you could be funny.  
       
    WOW it’s all “Noogan” law:  Noogan thought. Noogan world? Move over everyone else, words get twisted in Noogan world! Noogan will choose your neighbors where you live and if you don’t want to be there just check in with Noogan!

  • Onofre’s arm

    Yes felizarte, I’m well aware that the concept of zero has been around far longer than Islam, I was just making a joke based upon a popular misconception. It’s no different than Algore making a joke about the SCOTUS giving Bush the Presidency, when multiple independent recounts proved beyond any reasonable doubt that Bush won Florida fair and square. 

  • beyond_sea_salted_cracker_words

    Oh yes Carmen. Didn’t you know the Declaration of Independence was drawn up by them as well? I mean they carved and built America from the ground up since the early 1600′s right Noogan??!!

    Pffft!!

  • Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker

    I still don’t see the idiot’s comment above Onofre’s arm’s comments.  Am I just missing it?  Or did Oa comment to Jackie above Jackie?  In any case,  Jacckie and her guest have determined on a strategy to simply flag us.  I feel we can outnumber them and flag away at them.  It’s the same as with the old mortuus lark.  Keep flagging and maybe we can get the mindless gnats to go away.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    exactly.  just because you are old in years does NOT mean you are wiser!
    =====================
    And you and jackie are poster children for your statement. You’re just far too easy, Goober.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Good, well trot off and find another “epic” to read, then no doubt you will be back here trying to brainwash everyone. You “Bigot”

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I feel we can outnumber them and flag away at them.  It’s the same as with the old mortuus lark.  Keep flagging and maybe we can get the mindless gnats to go away.
    ===========
    Spot on, Diana LCHNTC. I copy their stupidity, paste it into my comment, respond, and then flag theirs. They must be children who want attention because I can’t imagine a real adult who would go to a website where they weren’t wanted and make a spectacle of themself by demonstrating their own abject stupidity in full view of the public.

  • beachnan

    Noogan, you have your experience and Nellie has hers.  She should not be ashamed of herself just because her life experiences are different than yours.  She never stated she hates anyone, only that her experience taught her that the people she ran into needed to assimilate better.  Get off your high horse. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Plus Noonan, food needs to be ready by sundown!
    Hope you find a new “epic” to take some time off from all this information you feel compelled to share. We are all hopeless cases, according to your laws! Hopefully, that horse can bolt off into the distance somewhere….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Plus Noonan, food needs to be ready by sunset!
    Hope you find a new “epic” to take some time off from all this information you feel compelled to share. We are all hopeless cases according to your laws! Hopefully, that horse can bolt off into the distance somewhere….

  • HC123

    The president is deranged – I think he cannot get worse, and each time he exceeds my wildest dreams (nightmares).

    Also there is entirely too much “Noogan” in this thread.

  • felizarte

    Noogan: Yeah, I’m old. Old enough to remember Jews being subjected to the same ethnic/religious bigotry that you are all indulging your lizard brains in today. 

    You were witness to the exodus out of Egypt?  Facetious, but meant to show your claim in rant to be not quite accurate.

  • Cooney

    How is Islam in any way tolerant of the rights of women.  This has angered me more than almost any other jackass statements he has made since taking office.  I guess we can only consider ethnicity when we decide who is tolerant.  Misogynst pig, and Michelle I guess is too buy jetting to spain to take any interest in her own gender.  Obama is not stupid he is personality disordered. 

  • felizarte

    Obviously Noogan, not enough Muslims opposed to the Mosque at Ground Zero to exert any influence.

  • Jackie

    He’s just lost the Jewish vote and the NYC vote.”

    Why would he have “just lost the Jewish vote”?  Do you think all Jews think alike?

  • Jackie

    No sexism here.”

    Then why do you address me with gender-specific, misogynistic hate words like “bitch” and “tart”?  Obviously, you are intending to denigrate me via my gender.

  • felizarte

    You’re probably right that he will run again, KM, but chances are, this time, he cannot talk him out of a big rejection by the people.  Even the people who cheated for him may not be so willing to do so now.

  • Onofre’s arm

    “Nellie: Do you think Christianity should be smeared as a religion because one Christian murders his wife in a brutal nightmarish spree? Really? “ 

    There’s one minor flaw with your comparison noogan. Murdering one’s wife is not sanctioned in Christianity. In fact, there are few if any truly “Christian” practices and traditions that are inconsistent with American culture and American laws. Islam, on the other hand, is rife with traditions and practices that we Americans not only find repugnant, but in many cases, Muslim practices are illegal. And the fact that Muslims in America must refrain from some of their more repellent behavior in no way indicates that they honor the wisdom of our laws, it just indicates that they don’t want to pay the penalties for breaking them. If Muslims were ever allowed to achieve their ultimate goal of a worldwide caliphate, then many of the laws that we consider to be just and imminently reasonable will be ejected in favor of strict Sharia law. This nightmare is what many countries in Europe are experiencing right now. 

    Put simply, Islam is drastically incompatible with Western laws and mores, and it has a fundamental conflict with the increasingly enlightened American pantheon of rights, laws, and individual liberty that has evolved over hundreds of years of of sometimes bloody growing pains. thankfully, the freedom to practice one’s own religion is still restricted to what’s legal or not. And while you might make the claim that Building a Mosque on ground zero is legal, I can make the counter claim that it is a callous insult to those who died on 9/11, and that popular sentiment against such a travesty should be heavily factored into the equation, and it has precedent in legal standing, because majority rule is the foundation for countless zoning ordinances. New Yorkers should be given the chance to vote on the issue, so that the area around ground zero can be re-zoned to prevent such an outrage.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Are you Jewish, jackie? No. What race are you? You sound as though you have a sense of entitlement. So do tell, troll. And if you don’t, then you’re just another coward of an obamabot who won’t come out into the light. Tell us who you are or shut your gaping maw.

    Your comment, further, has no merit because it is based on a groundless opinion. Do stop spouting your bilge here. Go to HuffyPoo where you childish blather will be greeted with open arms.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Then why do you address me with gender-specific, misogynistic hate words like “bitch” and “tart”?  Obviously, you are intending to denigrate me via my gender
    ===========
    I denigrate you because of your stupidity, tart. That One is pimping you for money. So how much are you paid to troll here? You can’t actually believe that your moronic commentary cut and pasted from an Obama worship site has any meaning here. If you do, you are in serious need of counseling.

    Until YOU come up with some answers to serious questions concerning your commenting here, I will continue to deride your banal commentary, troll. What is your real agenda here? What is your race? What is you party affiliation? Why are you here? How old are you?

    All the regulars here know all this and more about me but not about you. Either answer or get more of my derision sent directly your way, cow.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    For our resident slack-jawed troll:

    Jackie Blue (Blah)

    ooh-hoo, jackie blue
    lives her life from inside of a room
    hides that smile when she’s wearin’ a frown
    ooh jackie, you’re not so down

    you like your life in a free-form style
    you’ll take an inch but you’d love a mile
    there never seems to be quite enough
    floating around to fill your lovin’ cup

    ooh-hoo, jackie blue
    what’s a game, girl, if you never lose
    ask a winner and you’ll prob’bly find
    ooh jackie, they’ve lost at sometime

    don’t try to tell me that you’re not aware
    of what you’re doing and that you don’t care
    you say it’s easy, just a nat’ral thing
    like playing music but you never sing

    ooh-hoo, jackie blue
    making wishes that never come true
    going places where you’ve never been
    ooh jackie, you’re going again

    ooh-hoo, jackie blue
    likes a dream that can never come true
    making love is like siftin’ through sand
    ooh jackie, it slips through your hand

    ev’ry day, in your indigo eyes
    I watch the sun set but I don’t see it rise
    moonlight and stars in your strawberry wine
    you’d take the world but you won’t take the time

    ooh-hoo, jackie blue
    lives her life from inside of a room
    makes you think that her life is a drag
    ooh jackie, what fun you have had

    ooh jackie, ooh jackie
    ooh jackie, ooh jackie
    hey, hey, hey, hey

  • Onofre’s arm

    If Jackie is the only prostitute in Obama’s stable, then he’s going to be a very unsuccessful pimp.

    Unless…………..Obama reverses the traditional roles, and threatens Johns that they’ll be sexually attacked by either Jackie or Michelle if they don’t pay up. I don’t know about you, but I would consider paying a small fortune to avoid being put in the same room with those wretched beasts. I would be concerned that some of the more robust STD’s that Jackie has picked up from her many encounters with donkeys might be able to leap long distances. 

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  • felizarte

    I think Noogan, you know that Obama’s statement re Mosque is going to bring him down in the polls, negatively impact his chance of reelection, that is why you are upset, even if your line of attack is on tolerance, anti-bigotry, and defense of Islam. But it is not your doing, it’s Obama’s and I am delighted that he is finally letting us have a glimpse of his true thinking.  His statement is on record, and trying to walk it back will only dig a deeper hole. Are you getting  remuneration for popping out to defend him each time?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     I would be concerned that some of the more robust STD’s that Jackie has picked up from her many encounters with donkeys might be able to leap long distances. 
    ===========
    Yeah, she does have a sordid history with farm denizens. Maybe that’s why Old MacDonald’s farm keeps coming to me when I see her posts.

  • felizarte

     think Noogan, you know that Obama’s statement re Mosque is going to bring him down in the polls, negatively impact his chance of reelection, that is why you are upset, even if your line of attack is on tolerance, anti-bigotry, and defense of Islam. But it is not your doing, it’s Obama’s and I am delighted that he is finally letting us have a glimpse of his true thinking.  His statement is on record, and trying to walk it back will only dig a deeper hole. Are you getting  remuneration for popping out to defend him each time?  I notice that you also seem to be more upset in your interaction with other posters,  I suppose if I were an Obama supporter, I would be upset with his approval rating today at Gallup (43% approval to 48% disapproval.)

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    We get it Noogan.  You don’t like being challenged.  Give it a rest. You’re not convincing anyone of the need to embrace Islam.

  • felizarte

    Obama is an idiot.  More American voters are seeing that now.  He will not win in 2012 if he dares run.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote the fool part?  I studied the major religions in junior high and kept my report on them throughout the years.

    Each one has their good points and their very, very bad points.  Islam was one of those that fell on the side of negativity almost immediately.

    I think my english teacher assigned us that task so long ago so that we would be aware of the pitfalls of being too naive and accepting of the cause du jour.

  • beyond_sea_salted_cracker_words

    Yes. It’s a similar event to the Cordoba Mosque built atop the very foundation of the ancient spanish christian cathedral. A sign of Islamic Conquest. Hence the name : Cordoba House.

    It’s a signal imo.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    You miss understood.  The country is bigger not Obama or his delusions of muslim grandeur.

  • felizarte

    No matter what Jackie says, just say something about how awful Obama is and what a failure he is, and he is not winning again.  She’ll go away soon enough.

  • beyond_sea_salted_cracker_words

    The silence is deafening. And “silence” does not always = peacefulness.
    Not until they have the majority power that is. Then we see what the “silence” was hiding.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    There’s a huge difference between earning your place and being coddled into your place.  The later is doomed to fail.
    =================
    Spot on, Buzz. There are a few at my place of employment who, like That One, repeat soundbites over and over again thinking that makes them competent and capable. It doesn’t and we all end up paying for this sort of incompetence. I care nothing about color, sex, or orientation but about ability. That is the only criterion as far as I’m concerned. It is a shame we don’t use it.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Oopsy!  I guess too many democrats called to complain about how Obama is killing their chances at being elected or re-elected.

    President Do-over does it again!

  • Jackie

    I denigrate you because of your stupidity, tart. That One is pimping you for money. ”

    Then end the practice of denigrating me with misogynistic hate words.  Leave gender out of it entirely.

    Until YOU come up with some answers to serious questions concerning your commenting here, I will continue to deride your banal commentary, troll. What is your real agenda here? What is your race? What is you party affiliation? Why are you here? How old are you?”

    Ferd, why on earth is my race a “serious question” that you need answered?  Why should the color of my skin matter at all to you?

  • Bonnie Jean Burris

    You are right and I apologize to Franklin Pierce. I hope you will agree the remainder of my post is factually correct? I thank you for the correction.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    So true, beyond_words. Sometimes the silence is deafening before all hell breaks loose!

  • Breeze

    -

    Obama Says Mosque Remarks
    Were Not Endorsement


    New York Times,
    by Sheryl Gay Stolberg
    & Edward Wyatt

    Original Article

    8/14/2010 

    Panama City, Fla. – President Obama said Saturday that in defending the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque near ground zero in Lower Manhattan, he was “not commenting on the wisdom” of that project, but rather trying to uphold the broader principle that government should treat “everyone equal, regardless” of religion. Mr. Obama, who was visiting the Gulf Coast with his wife and youngest daughter for an overnight stay, made his comments at the Coast Guard district station here.

    ——————————————————————

    Some staffer told the Backpeddler-in-Chief that early polls showed him taking another plunge because of these remarks.

    You can’t weasel your way out of this statement oh malignant Narcissist-in-Chief.

    Too many news sources picked up the story and ran your every word.

  • Becky

    Nellie,
    You’ve written beautifully of your experience and in so doing really have enlightened me in many ways.  You’ve lifted this conversation above snark and insult.  thanks.  very much.

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  • Breeze

    -

    How stupid does
    Obama think we are?

     
    National Review Online,
    by Andy McCarthy   

    Original Article

    8/14/2010

    Pretty stupid. Already getting trounced in the polls, Democrats are reeling over the President’s decision to side with the Muslim Brotherhood over the American people by endorsing the Ground Zero mosque. So he’s trying to close Pandora’s Box. Politico reports [and thanks to John Hinderaker at Powerline for pointing this out] that Obama is now seeking “to defuse the controversy” by explaining that he was merely talking about the mosque proponents’ legal right to build at the World Trade Center site. “I was not commenting and I will not comment,” he said, “on the wisdom….

  • Breeze

    -

    9/11 families and GOP’s Boehner,
    Palin react strongly to Obama’s support
    of a Ground Zero mosque

    Los Angeles Times,
    by Andrew Malcolm   

    Original Article

    8/14/2010 

    The political lines are now drawn, as President Obama obviously intended Friday when, unsolicited, he used the occasion of the Muslim Ramadan holiday and a White House dinner to insert himself into the emotional New York City mosque controversy.The Democrat’s speech endorsed the idea of a mosque and social center in Lower Manhattan near the ground zero of 9/11, drawing it as an issue of religious freedom, beyond sensitivity to the deadly occasion’s impact on the nation or families involved….

  • Jackie

    Ferd, don’t you think it’s quite a coincidence that “Guest” and it’s two imaginary friends just suddenly popped out of the ether to defend Jackie and threaten to team up with her to delete posts? Perhaps we can add “dissociative personality disorder” to  Jackie’s many other mental illnesses.”

    By that logic, all of you–Ferd, Onofre, JustMe, BuzzWater, etc.–are all just one person posting under multiple handles, also.  After all, you all write matching posts all day long.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Answer my questions, troll jackie. I am known here and YOU are not. I think you are a liar, a troll, and a paid obamabot. You could at least be honest in your dealings here, bovine one. I am a known commodity and you are not.

    You can either answer my questions or continue to be the coward you certainly are.

    Answers, Bossie.

  • Breeze

    -

    An Awful President, A Worse Theologian
     
    Power Line,
    by John Hinderaker   

    Original Article

    8/14/2010

    I was working on a post about President Obama’s enthusiastic endorsement of the Ground Zero mosque when I saw that Paul had already done one. So I will just add this coda: Obama’s lecture on religion was a classic of brain-dead multiculturalism. Early in his remarks, he said: Here at the White House, we have a tradition of hosting iftars that goes back several years, just as we host Christmas parties, seders, and Diwali celebrations. I confess, I had to look it up–

  • Breeze

    -

    CONTINUED:

    Diwali is a Hindu festival. But who cares? Under multicultural dogma, these events are all the same. This was the climax of Obama’s lecture:
    For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every religion, including Islam-that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
    This is revealing: the ultimate destination of multiculturalism is platitudinous stupidity. All religions, Obama tells us, are really the same, and can be summed up in the Golden Rule. Actually, there is no religion that can be reduced to the Golden Rule, least of all Islam. Islam does not enjoin believers to do unto infidels as you would have infidels do unto you. On the contrary! Islam tells its followers to subdue infidels; to kill them; to, at best, reduce them to dhimmitude. The Golden Rule is antithetical to Islam. Here is a thought experiment: compare HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] with the parable of the good Samaritan.

    Multiculturalism, in short, reduces its adherents (like President Obama) to a low intellectual plane. If you really think that all religions are the same, and they all exemplify the Golden Rule, then you won’t understand the point of Cordoba House.
    <!– FOR FACEBOOK –>

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    By that logic, all of you–Ferd, Onofre, JustMe, BuzzWater, etc.–are all just one person posting under multiple handles, also.  After all, you all write matching posts all day long.
    ================
    Damn, you are more dumb than the proverbial shovel, pounded shit, and coal bucket all in one deluded singularity.

    OA, ~~JustMe~~, and Buzz all have different ways of writing. I thought you were a writer, jerkie-off, but apparently you really aren’t because you can’t discern my writing from that of OA and Buzz with a simple read. It is all in the syntax. You are a clueless, dimwitted sophomoric bonehead who spouts soundbites in lieu of real commentary.

    And you still need to answer these questions, cud-chewer:

    1. What is your race?
    2. What is your agenda?
    3. Are you paid by your pimp, Obama?
    4. How old are you?

    I’m waiting, dumbass. Let’s have some answers, coward.

  • Nice Try

    Beyond,

    Why don’t you read this post on the link below and educate yourself. Find out about the true story behind the Cordoba House story and the name. And not just repeat Gingrich’s lie or talking point. The true story of Cordoba is actually quite facinating and may change your thinking on this so-called controversy.

    Take a look at something else beside NQ for once. Read something from someone who actually is educated on the issue. I would suggest other NQ posters also read this link and maybe Larry if you had the balls you should read this too. It will give you some real knowledge rather than your typical FOX fluff you guys always reference.

    Look here:

    http://gotmedieval.blogspot.com/2010/08/professor-newts-distorted-history.html

  • Nice Try

    Your ignorant comments to Darknight just re-enforce his point. This post takes NQ down another level. 

  • Jackie

    Answer my questions, troll jackie.”

    I’ll answer some of these.  Others are beneath answering.

    “What is your real agenda here?”

    My agenda here speaks for itself.  I am here to debate the issues of the day.  I am a left-of-center progressive, and most of the commenters here are not.  So we debate.  I enjoy a good debate.  That’s it, dude.  I know it is really critical for you to believe that anyone who disagress with you doesn’t just disagree with you, but is actually part of a massive conspiracy to deprive you of your soul or something, and is paid well to do it.  Sadly, that’s not the case, pal.

    “What is your race?”

    And I’m the one accused of being “race-obsessed”.  That is one screwy question, Ferd.  Here you are, literally demanding to know what the color of my skin is.  Ferd, sorry, ain’t playin’ that game.  My race is completely irrelevant.  The only thing interesting about that question is that you needed to ask it.  YOU are the one obsessed with RACE, and your question proves it.  Frankly, that was a pretty rookie move, Ferd.

    “What is you party affiliation?”

    Dude, if you don’t know that by now, there is no hope for you.  As I have stated here on about 5 million occasions, I am a Democrat.  Having to even answer that question for you kind of makes me think there is no point in answering questions for you, as you obviously have read hardly anything I have written here.

    “Why are you here?”

    Already answered that one up top.  This is a repeat.

    “How old are you?”

    I don’t feel comfortable giving out my specific age online.  Suffice to say I have been an adult for a very long time, I am married, I thankfully hold down a steady, good job, and own property.  I have been politically active for several decades.

  • Blue Moon

    I just got back from a trip to Gulf Shores, AL and I truly enjoyed the trip as I have the past 28 years.  BO and Michelle would NEVER vacation as I just did.  Yes, I got in the ocean, Yes I ate the seafood, Yes we drove around and saw what has happened to the most pristene gulf coast I have ever visited, we talked to the people, we visited a different resturant for each meal, we visited the casinos in Biluxi, MS.  We did our part because we truly love this part of our beautiful country.  I do NOT for one minute believe our so-called President and his wife can say the same.  THEY HATE ANYTHING AND ANYONE FROM THE SOUTH.  There, I said it.  He is prejudiced against the south for what happened in a sad and terrible time in our great nations history. And he intends to make us pay for it. JMO

  • Jackie

    And you still need to answer these questions, cud-chewer:  
     
    1. What is your race?”

    Ferd Berfle = Race Obsessed.

    (Also cow-obsessed.  Best not to dig too deeply into that one)

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Here is one time that Obutt referred to the call to prayer as being one of the prettiest sounds on earth and then proceeding to recite it.

    http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of.html

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Here is one time that Obutt referred to the call to prayer as being one of the prettiest sounds on earth and then proceeding to recite it.

    http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of.html

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    And you still need to answer these questions, cud-chewer:   
      
    1. What is your race?” 
     
     
    Ferd Berfle = Race Obsessed. 
     
    (Also cow-obsessed.  Best not to dig too deeply into that one) 
    =================
    Once again, you are a liar by omission, you left out the other parts af my comment, which follows:

    2. What is your agenda?  
    3. Are you paid by your pimp, Obama?  
    4. How old are you?  
     
    I’m waiting, dumbass. Let’s have some answers, coward.

    ===========
    You lie, you omit pertinent points, and are generally a coward. A BIG COWARD. You, jackie are also a cow because you follow the lead steer, your beloved and ball-less Oblahblah and you would do so right off the cliff up ahead on the far left, which is where you are headed.

    i would throw you a rope, bitch, but you would only curse me, the rope and the cliff because you are too stupid to understand your quandary and would balme anyone but yourself because you are an automaton programmed to only follow orders.

    i give up. you are an illiterate thing who is in the shallow end of the genetic pool. You’re a future Darwin Award winner for sure.

    I will continue to give you all the shit you can eat because you that is what you are accustomed to. If you dislike this, go away.

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  • beyond_sea_salted_cracker_words

    Excellent points Breeze.

  • gatorcog

    Hey Larry Johnson:  Fuck you you bigoted piece of shit.  And fuck your bigoted neighbors and all the bigots on this web site.  Fuck you, take your bigoted friends and start another country for white pussy bigots somewhere.  Oh, and did I say Fuck you?  Fuck you.  All of you.

  • Jackie

    I’m waiting, dumbass. Let’s have some answers, coward.”

    Ferd, I already answered your questions several comments up thread.  You should take the time to check in on your previous comments once in awhile.  Here are the answers I already provided:

    “What is your real agenda here?”  
     
     
    My agenda here speaks for itself.  I am here to debate the issues of the day.  I am a left-of-center progressive, and most of the commenters here are not.  So we debate.  I enjoy a good debate.  That’s it, dude.  I know it is really critical for you to believe that anyone who disagress with you doesn’t just disagree with you, but is actually part of a massive conspiracy to deprive you of your soul or something, and is paid well to do it.  Sadly, that’s not the case, pal.  
     
     
    “What is your race?”  
     
     
    And I’m the one accused of being “race-obsessed”.  That is one screwy question, Ferd.  Here you are, literally demanding to know what the color of my skin is.  Ferd, sorry, ain’t playin’ that game.  My race is completely irrelevant.  The only thing interesting about that question is that you needed to ask it.  YOU are the one obsessed with RACE, and your question proves it.  Frankly, that was a pretty rookie move, Ferd.  
     
     
    “What is you party affiliation?”  
     
     
    Dude, if you don’t know that by now, there is no hope for you.  As I have stated here on about 5 million occasions, I am a Democrat.  Having to even answer that question for you kind of makes me think there is no point in answering questions for you, as you obviously have read hardly anything I have written here.  
     
     
    “Why are you here?”  
     
     
    Already answered that one up top.  This is a repeat.  
     
     
    “How old are you?”  
     
     
    I don’t feel comfortable giving out my specific age online.  Suffice to say I have been an adult for a very long time, I am married, I thankfully hold down a steady, good job, and own property.  I have been politically active for several decades.

  • Noogan

    Nope. Not “Noogan’s law” at all. Just trying to point out a more reasonable worldview than the hate-spew I’ve been reading here. Hoping to encourage people to distinguish between their hatred for Muslim FUNDAMENTALISTS from Muslims everywhere who practice their religion peacefully–a religion, in fact, which abhors what those fundamentalists do. The extremists have little to do with Islam as a religion; they are perverting it, in fact. The group-think and cyber-mob-mentality you’re exhibiting here looks like a snowball of hatred and bigotry. 

  • Noogan

    Felizarte: I don’t support the Mosque near Ground Zero. I think it shows a lack of respect for the victims–many of whom were Muslim, by the way. 

    I don’t support Obama. Period. I never have. I despise this administration. 

    I’m not “delighted” by anything Obama does; but i don’t have any ideolgical reasons for that, except that I think he’s a dangerous demogogue, and I can see that people are so easily led by “group-think” that I fear what Obama can do to this country. 

  • Noogan

    Thanks, Peggy Sue. I appreciate your comment. I recoil at the Muslim bashing, and the tone of hatred against all Muslims, but am compelled to remind people that I don’t support the Mosque being built at Ground Zero. 

  • Noogan

    Beachnan,

    Nellies over-broad stereotyping of an entire religion plays into the tone of hatred and bigotry going on here. I’m not discounting her personal “experience” at all; I’m just hoping for a more reasoned discourse on the issue of Muslims. Stereotyping an entire ethnic/religious group has led to dangerous consequences in history. I read through the comments here, and I recoil because I’m reminded of that.

    Of course, no one likes a scold, so I completely get why people are annoyed by my comments. I’ll just stand up for what I think is right, that’s all. 

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Extraordinary contributions of Muslims to America?

    Well first there are many who have served this Country well. Arab Christian and Arab Muslim…..By the way..Not all terrorists are Muslims….

    How about the approximate 30,000 Arab/Muslim Americans who fought in WWII for starters…. Like Maj. Gen. Fred Safay would fought along side General Patton? 

    How about U.S. Air Force Col. James Jabara? Our 1st Jet Ace in the Korean War?

    Lets not talk abut the Arab/Muslim Americans who fought in Vietnam….

    How about former General John Abizaid and Arab/American who was the boss of U.S. Central Command in Iraq..

    How about Ayub Ommaya the neurosurgeon, who invented the Ommaya Reservior? Or Fazlur Kahn who designed the Sears and John Hancock Towers? 

    How about Zalmay Khalilzed the former US Ambassador to Iraq and Afghanistan?

    Oh yeah how about the 11,328,000 black MUSLIM slaves imported worldwide between 1520 and 1900?

    Some of you need to grow up………..

  • Jackie

    Are you Jewish, jackie? No. What race are you? You sound as though you have a sense of entitlement. So do tell, troll. And if you don’t, then you’re just another coward of an obamabot who won’t come out into the light. Tell us who you are or shut your gaping maw.”

    I would like to point out to the remainder of the NQ readership that this is at least the 4th time on this post Ferd Berfle has, without prompting, demanded to know what the color of my skin is.  He believes that this information will “tell us who you are”.  I think people here should be cognizant of the fact that your friend Ferd is hopelessly obsessed with race, and sees it as a person’s defining feature.  I think that should be troubling to the many of you who often profess to believe in a colorblind society.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The vast majority ???

    That says it all. I can’t imagine that me saying MO was sent to raise money from Arab folks in Spain by BO (for the Mosque at ground Zero) is why Junkie went into withdrawals….

  • wodiej

    great article but since Obama won’t reveal his college grades I would guess that aren’t all that good or he would be bragging about them. 

    you’re right, a college degree does not equal common sense.  Frankly, common sense is much more practical and applicable to every day life.  Even though the unemployment has become worse, there are rampant complaints of his jetsetting and his wife, they don’t seem to care.  I think they are too oblivious to realize what they are supposed to be doing up there in the WH.  They think they are rock stars or something-at least they sure act like it.  Remember the tv show Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous?

  • wodiej

    He’s the gift that keeps on giving.

  • nowitall

    Assimilate, the way Europeans assimilated into American Indian culture?

  • nowitall

    AbigailAdams, are you complaining that Muslims are assimilating the way Europeans assimilated into American Indian culture?

  • margaret

    How is it that we know Obama did well at Harvard Law?  I don’t recall seeing any transcripts….

  • Noogan

    I’ve never made the claim that it is legal, moron. I’ve said since the beginning that I opposed building the mosque on that site. Stop misrepresenting my words, and my views. 

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