Comments on: “An Unholy Alliance” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: test http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1396240 test Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:32:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1396240 . .

]]> By: RobertV http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393805 RobertV Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:54:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393805 Annie, Annie "It's hard to believe that Islam has resisited the modern world for all these centuries." No its not; Actually it is not at all. I will give you 3 examples: Afghanistan - probably the worst of radical Islam and don't think for one minute that the regime we are going to hand power off is not going to continue that trend. Why? Simple. This country has been at war for literally hundreds of years. They have not had the opportunity to develop in any way shape or form. I am not pissing on our efforts there - It goes back much further than that. Ahh; they must be the regressors you say to be at war so long? - rarely. They just suck at rolling over and playing dead. Saudi Arabia - Religion is key to keeping the incredibly unequal distribution of wealth intact. Visit the French Riviera once if you want see how modern the top half percent lives and behaves. Oil wealth is what is at stake there, stakes so high they will never allow modernization of thought. Iraq - Sadam was an A-hole but his government was far more secular than what we are leaving behind and he did a lot to modernize the country. We did a lot to kick them back into the dark ages.  Resisting is a piss-poor choice of words. Mostly we are not trying to educate the Islamic world; we are either at war with them or playing political games. If you want them to crawl out of the dark ages what they need is some peace, some time and a little less poverty wouldn't hurt either.  Annie, Annie

“It’s hard to believe that Islam has resisited the modern world for all these centuries.”

No its not; Actually it is not at all. I will give you 3 examples:

Afghanistan – probably the worst of radical Islam and don’t think for one minute that the regime we are going to hand power off is not going to continue that trend. Why? Simple. This country has been at war for literally hundreds of years. They have not had the opportunity to develop in any way shape or form. I am not pissing on our efforts there – It goes back much further than that. Ahh; they must be the regressors you say to be at war so long? – rarely. They just suck at rolling over and playing dead.

Saudi Arabia – Religion is key to keeping the incredibly unequal distribution of wealth intact. Visit the French Riviera once if you want see how modern the top half percent lives and behaves. Oil wealth is what is at stake there, stakes so high they will never allow modernization of thought.

Iraq – Sadam was an A-hole but his government was far more secular than what we are leaving behind and he did a lot to modernize the country. We did a lot to kick them back into the dark ages. 

Resisting is a piss-poor choice of words. Mostly we are not trying to educate the Islamic world; we are either at war with them or playing political games. If you want them to crawl out of the dark ages what they need is some peace, some time and a little less poverty wouldn’t hurt either. 

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393771 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:59:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393771 Thank you, candymarl - you have boiled it down to the primary issue. I can't stand it, either.  It is evidence of what a threat they perceive her to be for what she is saying.  That is very telling, isn't it? Thank you, candymarl – you have boiled it down to the primary issue.

I can’t stand it, either.  It is evidence of what a threat they perceive her to be for what she is saying.  That is very telling, isn’t it?

]]> By: candymarl red bone cracker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393763 candymarl red bone cracker Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:49:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393763 She has an opinion therefore she must be killed. Oh I just can't stand this. :'( She has an opinion therefore she must be killed.

Oh I just can’t stand this. :’(

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393718 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:27:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393718 Outstanding commentary, Peggy Sue.  Very well said.  And yes, it is telling that Hirsi Ali does not speak with bitterness in her voice, and is so precise in her speech.  Her stillness, her soft speech, cannot hide what a force she is in the fight for women. Outstanding commentary, Peggy Sue.  Very well said.  And yes, it is telling that Hirsi Ali does not speak with bitterness in her voice, and is so precise in her speech.  Her stillness, her soft speech, cannot hide what a force she is in the fight for women.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393714 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:23:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393714 Thanks, Peggy Sue.  Very interesting abt the two different women, too - I would have loved to have heard that... Great comment! Thanks, Peggy Sue.  Very interesting abt the two different women, too – I would have loved to have heard that…

Great comment!

]]> By: ~~JustMe~~ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393711 ~~JustMe~~ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:19:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393711 In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule in civil cases, such as divorce and financial disputes. In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule in civil cases, such as divorce and financial disputes.

]]> By: ~~JustMe~~ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393709 ~~JustMe~~ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:18:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393709 In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule only in civil cases, divorce and financial disputes. In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule only in civil cases, divorce and financial disputes.

]]> By: ~~JustMe~~ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1491993 ~~JustMe~~ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:18:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1491993 In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule only in civil cases, divorce and financial disputes. In Britain, sharia courts are permitted to rule only in civil cases, divorce and financial disputes.

]]> By: ~~JustMe~~ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393708 ~~JustMe~~ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:16:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393708 Fox covering Sharia law now! Fox covering Sharia law now!

]]> By: Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393647 Diana L. C. Hazelnut Nut Thin Cracker Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:14:37 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393647 AND, as I mention above, all those Muslim immigrants MUST be told in no uncertain terms that since we grant freedom of religion, they must also grant it to their wives and children.  If they want to play games about freedom of religion on this mosque issue, then they need to understand clearly that our laws will protect any woman and any young person who wants to turn away from Islam. Since we do have large numbers now of Muslim immigrants, we should begin to set up shelters with people specifically trained to help these women and children and to provide PROTECTION. AND, as I mention above, all those Muslim immigrants MUST be told in no uncertain terms that since we grant freedom of religion, they must also grant it to their wives and children. 

If they want to play games about freedom of religion on this mosque issue, then they need to understand clearly that our laws will protect any woman and any young person who wants to turn away from Islam.

Since we do have large numbers now of Muslim immigrants, we should begin to set up shelters with people specifically trained to help these women and children and to provide PROTECTION.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393499 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:51:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393499 As I understand it, she is paying for her own bodyguards now.  Initially, when she wsa in the Netherlands, the gov't did since she was in the House.  But she has to pay herself now. As I understand it, she is paying for her own bodyguards now.  Initially, when she wsa in the Netherlands, the gov’t did since she was in the House.  But she has to pay herself now.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393497 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:49:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393497 Olivia, it is my pleasure.  Thank you for mentioning her the other day, and sharing your own experience with us here.  Thank you.  And beautiful comment. Olivia, it is my pleasure.  Thank you for mentioning her the other day, and sharing your own experience with us here.  Thank you. 

And beautiful comment.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393495 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:41:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393495 Happy to do it, Nobama4me, truly.  She is a remarkable woman, no doubt abt it.  And glad to hear Hirsi Ali was treated with respect by the Bill Maher crowd.  That is shocking - ahem. Happy to do it, Nobama4me, truly.  She is a remarkable woman, no doubt abt it.  And glad to hear Hirsi Ali was treated with respect by the Bill Maher crowd.  That is shocking – ahem.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49140/an-unholy-alliance/#comment-1393491 Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:35:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=49140#comment-1393491 Thanks, Tricia.  And you said it - Ayaan is a credible threat, hence the need for body guards (and it should speak volumes that she has to have guards HERE, too)... Thanks, Tricia.  And you said it – Ayaan is a credible threat, hence the need for body guards (and it should speak volumes that she has to have guards HERE, too)…

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