We’re Number Eleven! We’re Number Eleven! Woohoo! *Open Thread*

And this dreck by Barker is a perfect example of why Newsweek went bellyup.  You can’t call this journalism or anything closely resembling a balanced piece.  This is Obama propaganda.  It’s the same thing we read during the 2008 primary and GE.  Who could forget the Evan Thomas quote?  Evan Thomas, the Assistant Managing Editor of the noble Newsweek enterprise crooned to Charlie Rose [in reference to Obama]: “He’s almost a god.”

I rest my case.  They were lucky to get a dollar.

WARNING: Strong Language- Holocaust Survivor Cursed Out By Ground Zero Mosque Supporter

http://blog.eyeblast.tv/2010/08/warning-strong-language-holocaust-survivor-cursed-out-by-ground-zero-mosque-supporter/

Taxi Driver stabbed by passenger after telling passenger he was Muslim:

http://www.salon.com/news/new_york_city/index.html?story=/news/feature/2010/08/25/muslim_stabbed_new_york

I am more inclined to believe obama will not stop until he has sunk this listing ship…he already has the majority party (for the last four years) in his pocket.

11th?  My, how the mighty have fallen.

“Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

According to The Ironic News:  U. S. Ranks 11th on List of 100 Best Countries; Finland No. 1 – Rankings were based on overall quality of herring, number of top notch ski jump facilities and length of nighttime.

OMG.  Really, are they gonna try to run the election on that same dribble. 

People on both sides of this issue need to step back and cool off. Sorry, but I suspect the flames are deliberately being fanned because of the upcoming elections.  For the Left it’s a rallying point for righteous indignation, serving as a smoke screen to all the failed policy decisions and serious problems facing the country.  For the Right, it’s a way of reminding us of the raw wounds of 9/11 and to suggest that anyone left of center is somehow traitorous, not a real American.

It’s ugly, all of it. And it won’t end well unless cool heads prevail.  Here’s hoping that Governor Paterson and Archbishop Dolan can dial back the anger and reach some sort of compromise. 

Newsweek can shove it . . .

“The State Department is maintaining a “counter-misinformation” page on an America.gov blog that attempts to “debunk a conspiracy theory” that President  Obama was not born in the United States, as if the topic were equivalent to believing space aliens visit Earth in flying saucers.
However, in the attempt to debunk the Obama birth-certificate controversy, the State Department author confirmed Obama was a dual citizen of the U.K. and the U.S. from 1961 to 1963 and a dual citizen of Kenya and the U.S. from 1963 to 1982, because his father was a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born in 1961.
…
Leventhal’s entry on “The Obama Birth Controversy” at America.gov reads remarkably like the comparable entry at the Obama 2008 presidential campaign website, “Fight the Smears,” suggesting the State Department is merely repeating Obama campaign argumentation in a partisan fashion, rather than conducting an even-handed and original inquiry into the Obama eligibility controversy.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=195441 

It’s obvious what the message really is.  “Oh please stay with Mohamed’s messanger Obama.  he will save us and be number one again.  but if you bad infidels vote conservative in November.  Allah will punish you and the great Obama will not be your Caliphate.”

“Compromise?” No, it’s not “compromise.” It is now capitulating to hate and threats of more hate. I don’t support a “compromise” any longer. Now, I support the mosque being built at the old Burlington Coat Factory location. 

Yes, it’s ugly, “all of it.” But, there is only one thing which should guide us, since it’s all “ugly.” That one thing is “the law.” We are a nation of laws, not men; or so they say. Given that, I will just have to amend my former opposition, and stand by the Constitution and the law, which gives these people the right to build that mosque on that location. 

If people who are victims of 9/11 are offended, I can only respond to them: Living well is the best revenge. Don’t let your hate for those who perpetrated the atrocity rule your life. 

The “left” is not something I’m part of, so I don’t care what their arguments are. The simple fact is that the locality has ruled, according to the law; the mosque/cultural center has every right to build there; Constitutionally, they’ve got every right to build there. I’m just going to support the Constitution in this issue now. All of the rest is just noise. 

I just don’t get it.  From the left: If we don’t allow the mosque to be built the terrorists will get us.

From the Right: If we don’t invade Iraq the terrorists will get us.

Same argument different playing fields. 

I don’t think the government gets it. People will be and have been hurt if a compromise is not reached.  This is the time when a real President would step up to the plate to try to bring the country together in common cause. I guess unless it’s a beer summit it’s above Obama’s paygrade.

It’s interesting to note that the first Islamic country on the list is Kuwait, at #40, and except for Japan and South Korea, the top 19 are all Judeo/Christian based countries. How strange.

I’m sorry but I think this is deliberate. The race card is played out so how to rally the base?  New deck new card.  The “if you don’t build one damn mosque you hate all Muslims card”.  Why this mosque and why now? Distract from the lousy economy, the hits from the healthcare bill, the fear and uncertainty in the business sector.  Let’s also not think about the ecological disaster in the Gulf. Last but not least the horrible state of unemployment in the black community.

This is out and out treason in my book.

Yes Candymarl–Compromise!  Obama needs to make a speech like this:

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OBAMA HAULS ARIZONA BEFORE UN HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL

http://www.aipnews.com
August 24, 2010
Ben Johnson, Floyd Reports

Apparently Barack Obama is not content to make a federal case out of his immigration feud with Arizona; he just made it an international one.
The president’s first-ever report on U.S. human rights to the UN Human Rights Council contains a rich vein of offensive material. So far, one aspect has not been reported: our petty president used the situation to bash Arizona’s immigration law — and possibly transfer jurisdiction over the law from Arizona to the UN. Throughout the report, which sounds like an Obama campaign speech, the president discusses “the original flaw” of the U.S. Constitution, America’s tolerance for slavery, and his version of our long and despicable history of discriminating against and oppressing minorities, women, homosexuals, and the handicapped. After each complaint, he addresses how he is delivering us from ourselves, patting himself on the back for such initiatives as ending “torture,” promoting Affirmative Action, and passing health care legislation.
In his section on “Values and Immigration,” he praised the Department of Homeland Security’s efforts to provide better medical care for detainees and increase “Alternatives To Detention” (e.g., letting them go). Then he turned to the one state that has had the temerity to stand in his way of fundamentally transforming the American electorate:
A recent Arizona law, S.B. 1070, has generated significant attention and debate at home and around the world. The issue is being addressed in a court action that argues that the federal government has the authority to set and enforce immigration law. That action is ongoing; parts of the law are currently enjoined.
CONTINUED BELOW

“… dual citizen of the U.K. and the U.S. from 1961 to 1963 …”

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On Obama’s command, Attorney General Eric Holder has sued the State of Arizona for passing a law that he criticized without reading, and which merely upholds federal law. (He gave sanctuary cities a pass.) He now threatens an additional lawsuit against Sheriff Joe Arpaio for “racial profiling” when arresting illegal immigrants near the Mexican border.
Obama’s turns his skirmish with Jan Brewer from a states rights dispute into an international human rights cause. It also places Arizona’s law in the hands of the United Nations.
The national report is but the first step of the international government’s review process. On November 5, the United States will be examined by a troika of UN bureaucrats from France, Japan, and Cameroon (an oppressive nation which is a member of the Organization of Islamic Conference). This trio will consider three items: Obama’s self-flagellating report, reports written about America by UN tribunals or international governing bodies, and testimony from NGOs with a pronounced anti-American bias. It will also consider “voluntary pledges and commitments made by the State,” such as suspending an Arizona state law.
Then the French, Japanese, and Cameroon diplomats will draw up a plan of action for the United States to implement.
Nations are re-examined every four years. The Human Rights Council looks for voluntary compliance. However, its website asserts, “The Human Rights Council will decide on the measures it would need to take in case of persistent non-cooperation by a State with the” World Body.
When the Left cannot win at the ballot box (virtually every time), it overrules the people in the courts. Now that Obama is not sure he can prevail in the courts, he has overruled the American people by hauling Arizona and the two-thirds of Americans who support its law before the United Nations.

HT Harp

We are not just a nation of laws, we are also a nation of common courtesy, respect, and good manners. Did you advocate for Fred Phelp’s right to express his religious freedom with his hateful anti-gay signs and protests of military funerals?

Skinheads have a Constitutional right to march their hatred down my street, people have a Constitutional right to burn a flag, people have the right to all sorts of things under the First amendment, but I also have the right to register my disgust and to fight them every step of the way.

By the way, have you found out yet whether women can enter through the front door of this mosque or must they go around back and pray in segregation so as not to contaminate the rest of the congregation?

Anyone open to reading and learning check out :-
How to Win the Clash of Civilizations
President Obama, in his own way, is a One Worlder. In his 2009 Cairo speech, he called for a new era of understanding between America and the Muslim world. It would be a world based on “mutual respect, and . . . upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles.”

Our civilization is not indestructible: It needs to be actively defended. This was perhaps Huntington’s most important insight. The first step towards winning this clash of civilizations is to understand how the other side is waging it—and to rid ourselves of the One World illusion.

Come on, Obama! Newsweek gave you a head start. I know you get the United States down to at least #25. Maybe even more.

I see that Nubbins or Noggins or whatever his name is refuses to go away. We are a rule of laws. That includes

Zoning Laws

I have already bored my fellow No Quarterites to tears with my knowledge, and hard-won experience of dealing with the nitty-gritting of planning commissions, boards of architectural review, landmark commissions, tree ordinances, environmental impact statements, etc. Depending upon local laws, a developer must go through the legal processes including public hearings and impact studies before anything can be built. It takes a long time. Decisions can be appealed. Citizens have input.

Weather you are putting in a swimming pool, a new driveway, or building a hospital, you must submit to the rule of law.

And no, this is not NIMBYism. At one hearing I attended the developer wanted a zoning variance so that he could put six McMansions on three cul-de-sacs. Someone in the audience (an ordinary citizen) pointed out the the cul-de-sacs were too small to allow firetrucks access. So back to the drawing board for the developer. The planning commission failed to notice this flaw in the design. That’s why we still have public hearings.

Because ordinary citizens often spot important deficiencies that are overlooked.

This has nothing, nada, zero to do with freedom to practice religion. Although should a developer try to harrass, intimidate or silince a citizen by using a SLAPP suit to shut her up, that is a threat to the First Ammendmet right to freedom of speech.

So before people get all high and mighty about building this mosque, remember there are going to be lots of hearings, court cases etc. before one stone gets laid. And most likely the issues will be about traffic studies, easements, and handicap accesss. And the passionate liberals who are yelling and screaming about building this mosque will have fallen by the wayside by then. Because spending night after night attending public hearings, taking notes, and gathering information is a real drag. Not to mention a crimp on your social life.

OOOkkaaay! Not exactly what I had in mind but to quote that classic movie Babe: “It’ll do pig it’ll do.”

I think this is deliberate, too. You get the Left all riled up about the threat of racism against Muslims, and that wave of self rightiousness will hopefully carry them to the polls for the midterms.

That’s how they roll, the Dems need to feel all puffed up and indignant about their superiority against the rest of the stupid, racist, bitter, little folks. It’s almost like an adrenilin rush for them. Meanwhile, they really care nothing about the groups they allegedly rush to protect, they just want to get their self rightiousness high so they can feel all superior for a few minutes.

oowawa—-That a fantastic  video!! Thanks, kiddo!

Noogan, I agree that the developers have every legal right to build there.  But anyone with common sense should have known that this project would have sparked controversy and anger.  The developers could have layed the groundwork for “their bridge of understanding” with an outreach long before this.  And the politicians and financial wizards in NYC could have worked with far more earnestness and speed to rebuild at the 9/11 site.  That gaping, empty space is itself an affront, a national disgrace.

And yes, compromise.  That’s what people do when they’re rational and want to settle an ugly dispute. As I said before, accommodation is not a dirty word. It means neither side will get everything they demand.  But this tug of war needs to end because it’s not only ugly, it’s dangerous. Whichever way it goes, the issue is not the be all and end all of the serious problems facing the country.

So, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. Personally, I think the politics entering this mess is dispicable, from both sides. 

LOL, Rev. Amy!
and might I add….Oh thank heaven for number eleven!!

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/obamas-first-un-human-rights-report-cites-az-2/

MAY THE DEMS WHO SELECTED THIS ANTI-AMERICAN AND PUT HIM IN A POSTION TO HARM MY COUNTRY GO TO HELL

Never in my lifetime has a president been such a danger to America. This preson will hurt before he would help this country.
Impeach now.

WOMEN WITH INTELIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

So according to Obama in his Ciro speech this “New World” It would be a world based on “mutual respect,
 
Please someone shows us where this issue is a two way street? Respect runs both ways right?

Come on, Obama! ……. I know you get the United States down to at least #25

arabella—-Exactly! The fact that we’re not at the bottom of the list means that Obama is just not trying hard enough!!

~JustMe~   great comment!

Yep, here’s the plan: divide the battle lines as follows–

“people of color” + enlightened educated liberals + young folks who know a rockstar when they see one and know what’s cool

                            vs

“the stupid racist bitter little folks.”

For anyone finding it tough before your healthcare is gone
 stock up on these

As to the US being number 11, I apologize to the British for this, but those people need to go study British military history. Anybody who believes America is a mean country hasn’t done very good research. Seriously, the British way was to invade, annihilate, and colonize the crap out of a country, harvesting all the resources as the spoils of war. That’s why all through history, war has been extremely profitable. Along comes the US where wars actually cost us money! It’s maddening for the citizens here, many who would prefer a more isolationist approach, but one thing that makes the US unique is the way we rebuild and assist others all over the world. Sure we’re imperfect, but we’ve always made an effort not to annihilate, colonize and harvest the spoils of war. And we’re the first on the ground in natural disasters and we’ve paid out billions in reparations.

A recent example in the news is Haiti, not an American problem, actually the blame lies with the French who just gave them the finger regarding their request for any sort of reparations. Study other countries and how they have behaved all through history, all over the world, and you gain a better appreciation for the US, even with all her imperfections.

Actually Yttik for anyone who is open to taking anything in!!!! The British history is an excellent example. AND IF people would only look at BRITAN now we have an insight to what is going on in the world today. Sadly, it may be too late for the British….. OMG!
However, it is not too late to keep America RED WHITE AND BLUE!

Well Noogan, for once I agree with you.  I’m also against compromise.  Of course, we’re on opposite sides of the issue . . .

Actually Yttik, for anyone who is open to taking ANYTHING in!!!! The British history is an excellent example. AND IF people would only look at BRITAN today we have an insight to what is going on in the world. Sadly, it may be too late for the British…..  
However, it is not too late to keep America RED WHITE AND BLUE!

1.Id like to personally invite anyone who doesn’t think the US is the best place in the world to live to move to whatever country they think is the best place to live.

2. Though Newsweek was sold for just @1, Sidney Harmon the guy who bought it, must assume millions of dollars of the magazine’s debt.

3. And just for you Amy, Gooooo Yankees!!!

Will the blue and white pill make me larger, or just not care so much that I’m small?

Not sure on size better check with the doc if you only need to take half It will just make you feel ok and everything will be fine!!! I really cannot think of anything funny LOL. So take it and whatever size you are we will ALWAYS see you anyway! I for one will never allow you to be trampled underfoot

HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR IS CURSED OUT BY MOSQUE SUPPORTER 

Noogan, you have stated your position on this issue so many times.  You are getting to be tiresome.  It is obvious that none of the ideas expressed by others have any effect on your mindset. 

“I am more inclined to believe obama will not stop until he has sunk this listing ship…he already has the majority party (for the last four years) in his pocket. “

Obama and/or his sycophants will say, it took George W Bush eight years to create a mess  . . . Obama needs eight years also to clean up the mess. Then even if all indications point to his own failure, he’ll still blame Bush and those who are permanently hooked on koolaid will applaud him.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/08/breaking-news-president-obama-says-im-having-a-great-time-on-vacation.html

BREAKING NEWS -OBAMA HAVING A GOOD TIME
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CAN YOU GUESS? WHAT FINGER I WAS HOLDING UP AS I READ THIS ONE.

You said it, felizarte – that is exactly what he/they will say.

I say, “it took a Clintonn to clean up after the first Bush, and it will take a Clinton to clean up after the second one, too” or words to that effect!

The thing that I cannot figure out is this:  How come the Bush Adm., which had a legal authority to look into Obama’s birth records, passport application, travel records (to Indonesia, Pakistan, etc)?  The American people needed to know the truth–either abolish the doubt about Obama’s eligibility or confirm his ineligibility for the presidency.  Eligibility trumps privacy issues in this matter because it has a bearing on the security of the nation.  Why did we never hear anything from the Bush administration?  

LOL – Thank you, jmm915!  I’m hoping they will be able to get over their current rash of injuries, and hold onto the division…

And what a lovely invitation – well said! 

or the third but I’ve lost my faith in hillary.

“As Obama never tires of reminding the American public…he inherited a Herculean task: the Augean-stable-size mess left behind by George W. Bush.”

It should also be obvious to everyone by now that Obama is no Hercules.  Unfortunately, no one could convince Obama.

“Obviously he didn’t learn is lesson”?????  Good grief – to compare the Holocaust to one mosque being built in one particular location is an obscenely absurd comparison.

And don’t ya just love the guy cussing and screaming his fool head off being on the side of “tolerance”??

Charles F. Kerchner, Jr., Commander USNR (Retired)
Lead Plaintiff, Kerchner v Obama & Congress:

“I believe that the RNC and DNC at the highest levels in 2008 were both complicit in shutting down all discussion of Obama’s eligibility issue in the Main Stream Media, print press, and in the leading Conservative Talk Show radio stations.”
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/i-believe-fix-was-in-for-2008-election.html

This one

Right now Obama is the mess in the Augean Stables that needs to be shoveled out . . .

You guessed it.
Great photo.

There was no hate and anger until the right wing media hate mongers took over.  This building has been approved for MONTHS and nobody said a word.

But why would Bush be complicit in electing Obama to succeed him?  What was the deal, if any?  I recall that Nancy Pelosi, early in her speakership role, took off the table any impeachment proceedings against Bush.  Was the election of Obama part of thet deal?; including not investigating how a Bush family controlled oil exploration company won the bid for the Iraq oil fields?

I can’t wait to watch Obama attempt to get Angela Merkel’s girdle.

Keep an open mind re Hillary, CJ.  I am always curious  why guys like Amb. Bolton and others identified with the repulican party, continue to take potshots at Hillary.  Why do they continue to fear her?  It seems irrational on the surface.

“And don’t ya just love the guy cussing and screaming his fool head off being on the side of “tolerance”??”

SSDD!

Whichever way it goes, the issue is not the be all and end all of the serious problems facing the country.  
 
Oh yes it could be, IF we do not look at this issues from all directions.
The building
This is a CATALYST in how we go forward as a country!
The money
The people
The internal upset being waged between people’s thoughts on allowing this building to be situated at Ground Zero.

This is just another brick in the wall of our destruction and despair that will be heading to everyone’s door!

Whichever way it goes, the issue is not the be all and end all of the serious problems facing the country.    
Oh yes it could be, IF we do not look at this issues from all directions.
The people  
The building  
This is a CATALYST in how we go forward as a country!  
The money  
The internal upset being waged between people’s thoughts on allowing this building to be situated at Ground Zero.  
The MASTER PLAN in the scheme of things!
This is just another brick in the wall of our destruction and despair that will be heading to everyone’s door!  

Whichever way it goes, the issue is not the be all and end all of the serious problems facing the country.      
Oh yes it could be, IF we do not look at this issues from all directions.  
The people    
The building 
The money     
This is a CATALYST in how we go forward as a country!    
The internal upset being waged between people’s thoughts on allowing this building to be situated at Ground Zero.    
The MASTER PLAN in the scheme of things!  
This is just another brick in the wall of our destruction and despair that will be heading to everyone’s door! 

I guess you don’t remember all of the flack and drama when Bush I looked into Clinton’s creepy visits to the Eastern Block when he was a draft dodging, America protesting, student in England.

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

And sometimes, for the smallest of these little folks, clinging to their pacifiers just isn’t enough . . .

” How come the Bush Adm., which had a legal authority to look into Obama’s birth records, passport application, travel records (to Indonesia, Pakistan, etc)?”

I guess you don’t remember all of the flack and drama when Daddy Bush looked into Clinton’s creepy visits to the Eastern Block when he was a draft dodging, America protesting, student in England.

Let’s win one for the ‘Brenner.

It’s all just a ‘game’ — the illusion of conflict.
The agenda advances — more control/less freedom.

Yeah, but that had nothing to do with eligibility for the office.  Besides, George W. was not running.  I also wonder why George W. never gave McCain, a republican, any heads-up on the economy that could have helped mccain frame his economic stance much better.  It only makes me believe that Bush really did not want McCain to win.

oowawa—OOOOHHH that was a good one! “clinging to their pacifiers”

I guess that’s what “pacifists” do! LOL.
But I’m finished with these faux peace-makers.  I say let’s “ pass a fist” and defend our right to love and defend our country!

donjo i call bs on your post.

“John McCain, Hero to Zero at Mach 6.66! Shhh! Keep this 2008 election fraud covered up and the American electorate in the dark …”
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/john-mccain-hero-to-zero-at-mach-666.html

LOL ~JustMe~!!!

gordo  i think it is political calculation. let the dims set themselves aflame and turn into nonplayers in the decades to come based on their stupidity and arrogance. however the law of unintended consequences has resulted in far greater damage than they imagined imo.

homerun candymarl!

having served on a commission for my city, i agree.

just a view here! i have never in my lifetime seen the amount of public discontent with one president (not mine) and active dislike.

he first dispised and now we despise him. back at ya barrack!

Geez Noogan. You’re right in here with the first headline.
Apparently there’s more:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html

I am leaving in the AM for a trip that makes a circle around the USA,
fly to Portland Ore, train to Glacier Park MT, train to St Paul MN, train to Chicago, train to Buffalo NY, train to Albany NY, train to Philadelphia PA,  then train to Charleston SC, then train to Orlando FLA, then fly to New Orleans LA, then train to San Antonio Tx, then train to Palm Springs CA.
then home to sleep for a week.

I will meet people from all over this great number 1 country. I will see many different facets of this country.
Many some of those over paid, do little swamp gas affected people in Washington DC should do the same.

I can not wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TD_pSeNelU&feature=related

WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

EllenD–thanks for this.  I didn’t respond to Noogan’s post of the link mostly because somehow it seemed a setup.  The video of the Holocaust survivor being treated badly seemed real.  This is nothing but a setup because the lefties can’t ever admit they’re wrong.

Helen, good luck on your trip! I’m envious you’re going to see so much of the country.

Helenk, you’re going to be in my neck of the woods??  When will you be in Charleston?

I’ve never seen that video.  Love Linda Ronstadt!  Love all the others, too.  Great song at this point–Do miss the time when we could count on most all our celebs to celebrate our great country!

Yep–Mr. “Born in the USA” Springsteen kind of left himself out on a limb with his Obama worship . . .

Helen, have a wonderful, relaxing trip. I am so excited for you to be able to soak in the wonders of this GREAT Country! Not forgetting the AMAZING people!

September 14 in the am. leave September 15 in the am. I am staying at the Mills House Hotel.
I have always heard what a beautiful city it is and I want to see it.

PS
 my comment should read  maybe some of those overpaid

WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

Gordo,

Again, thanks for your posts and please keep them coming!!!

candymarl red bone cracker,

And don’t forget that when I mentioned that perhpas some of the leftie libs want the mosque there because the terrorist Muslims will then not target that area any more, they smirked at my stupidity.  Well, I do remember that even the planner mentioned this very thing as a perk of having the center there.  Go figure.  Now they’re saying that the mosque IS indeed a way to “protect” us from terrorism. 

Do they ever really understand how totally stupid they seem when the words that come out of the left side of their mouths contradict the words that come out of the right side of their mouts–are they ALL somehow related to Obambi, the greatest speaker of doublespeak in the world?

Oh yah, you know the 80 something bodies found in Mexico that are supposed to be the result of drug war killings, well the latest is they are probably from Guatemala, El Salvador, and other Central and South American countries. 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_drug_war_mexico

So let me get this straight.  Illegal aliens living or traveling in Mexico are massacred by drug cartels and/or Mexican citizens. Obviously illegal aliens in Mexico aren’t safe at all.  But who gets lectured? The Arizona government by the Mexican government for the way they treat illegal aliens by expecting them to provide proof of citizenship when stopped for some law violation.  Hmm, rich how they think America is the racist and intolerable and unfair country to illegals.

Dangit (more on that below).  The Mills House is beautiful – and in a gorgeous section of the city.  Yes, Charleston is fantastic – I absolutely love it.  So many beautiful old houses, wonderful restaurants, history – just a great place. 

If it was sooner, I was going to offer to come meet you (if you would be interested, that is), which would be amazing.  But (and I was going to mention this tomorrow anyway),  I am having a total (right) knee replacement on 9/9.  Shoot.

Your trip does sound fantastic.  I look forward to *hearing* all abt it!

Breeze, Thanks for posting about Obama taking a crying list to the UN Council on human rights. You can pin it all on Obama but it’s really the dynamic duo of Susan Rice & Hillary, yeah I know he’s the boss but really Rice & Clinton did all the pushing

Oh, and now I know why Finland is #1:  Their anti-semitism and hated of Bush which is quite in line with the thinking of many leftist elites in America:

“BERLIN – The head of Amnesty International’s Finnish branch, Frank Johansson, told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday that he stands by his statement that Israel is a “scum state.”

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=185846

Oh, and now I know why Finland is #1:  Their anti-semitism and hated of Bush which is quite in line with the thinking of many leftist elites in America:

“BERLIN – The head of Amnesty International’s Finnish branch, Frank Johansson, told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday that he stands by his statement that Israel is a “scum state.”

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=185846

We are not just a nation of laws, we are also a nation of common courtesy, respect, and good manners.

Would that it were still true, yttik.  However if you missed the video yesterday of the Lefties and old hippies advocating for the Mosque and their “Muslim brothers and sisters” you’d have to re-think that.  I’ve never seen such lack of civility or respect for opposing views.  They really looked as if they wanted to kill the guy with the video who challenged the Indian Muslim and his trashing of Israel as “racist”.  Very ugly people and while watching them, I thought we might be seeing the beginnings of storm troopers. 

I noted yesterday that if Fred Phelps (couldn’t remember his last name, thanks) tried to set up his church in the center of The Castro, he’d be stopped in a second; he’d never get a license…or a lease.  And I’d back that too.  He is an odious bigot and has no business there.  Go wherever…not there.  He wouldn’t only affect gays but the general peace of the population.

Been watching Greta’s updates this week on the violence in Mexico–extremely depressing.  Arizona has human rights issues, who knew?  I’ll have to tell my relatives and friends who live there to emigrate.  And my sig other needs to quickly sell the house he bought on a short sale at an even lower price and get out of there before he’s abused.

It would surprise me if Ms. Ronstadt is not on the Leftie side as well…considering her long time relationship with Jerry.  Bo Diddley?  Not so sure.  He always struck me as really loving the USA dispite obvious racism encountered on the road.  He seemed to rise above it all in his creativity.

And as I mentioned elsewhere–the guy cussing him is worried about the protestors causing more violence against the U.S.  So what?  Most mulims are peaceful or muslims are violent?  Which is it?  Still feels to me that these people DO think this mosque will “protect” that area of NY from being bombed AGAIN for the third time.

jmm915,

I would further your ivitation for everyone to move to the top 10 countries on PropagandaWeek’s (OOPS! Newsweek’s) list.  Maybe we can begin a “charitable” organization that raises money to help all the human rights abuse “victims” in AZ emigrate to those countries.  Perhaps Obambi will help get it started.  (Never mind, Obambi is not known for giving too much to charity.)

Man accused of stabbing Muslim cabbie ‘works for pro-Islam group’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0825/man-accused-stabbing-muslim-cabbie-works-proislam-group/

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Elaine,

I lost any illusion about Hillary a long time ago….

I still say that at the end,

THE BUCK STOPS AT OBAMA’S DESK!!!

TRAITORS ALL.

stodghie – Thank you for your service. Sitting on these commissions is very demanding. But if people didn’t do it, we would be in a mess.

Here’s a suggestion for people who want to get involved, but don’t want to run for office: sit on a commission, board, etc. for your local government. Many of these positions are filled by appointment, not election. One good person can make a world of differenc in your community, and in your local government.

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MUST READ – COMMENTS TOO… – BACKGROUND OF ASSAILANT

“Was the Muslim Cab Driver
Slashing the First “Ground Zero
Mosque” Hate Crime?

Village Voice [NYC],
by Foster Kamer   

Original Article

8/25/2010 

A cab driver picked up a 21 year-old fare yesterday in Murray Hill on 24th and 2nd around 6 p.m. The fare — “visably drunk” — gets in the cab, and reportedly asks the driver: “Are you a Muslim?” The driver answers that he is. And what happens next? The fare, as we’ve now heard, stabs the cab driver. Here’s where it gets strange: Michael Enright of Brewster, New York, who was booked on charges of attempted murder and assault with a weapon as a hate crime, is listed on Facebook as an employee of the New York City-based Intersections…..

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Mainstream Media Pundits
to Americans: Get Over 9/11

Big Journalism,
by Kevin L. Martin   

Original Article

8/25/2010

It seems that some within the Mainstream Media have been trying to send the American public a clear message, “It is time for you to get over the 9-11 attacks.” A majority of Americans have always seen the attacks of 9-11 as being on par with the attack upon Pearl Harbor since the dual attacks happened within our nation. The members of the Mainstream Media always saw the attacks as the defining moment of the much-hated Bush Presidency. Now that another of President Obama’s teachable moments has blown up in his face, some of the Mainstream Media have sought…..

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He still doesn’t get it
 
New York Post,
by Michael Goodwin   

Original Article

8/25/2010

With Donald Trump and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver now urging developers to move the Ground Zero mosque, the New Majority movement continues to pick up broad support. From Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin to Howard Dean and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, top Republicans and Democrats are united in a truly bipartisan cause. Gov. Paterson and Archbishop Timothy Dolan, both on record as favoring another location, met yesterday to talk ideas. The movement would be complete if only Mayor Bloomberg came to his senses to play the role of mediator.

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THIS IS WHY BLOOMBERG WILL NEVER CHANGE HIS MIND:

http://suffolkcountylibertyreport.com/?p=9468

I saw that, tango.  As a long time supporter of Amnesty International, I was shocked to read that this man has anything to do with AI.  He should be fired immediately.

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A woman domestic worker in
Saudi Arabia nailed 24 times

Guardian (Sri Lanka),
by Staff   

Original Article

8/25/2010 

Mrs. L.T. Ariyawathi (49), a mother of three has returned from Saudi Arabia after less than five months of employment. Within a short time of her return she was hospitalized for an operation to remove 24 nails from her foot and a needle implanted by her employer. Doctors who x-rayed her at Kamburupitiya hospital have identified these items and are preparing to operate in order to remove them. Mrs. Ariyawathie explained to the doctors about the manner in which husband and the wife of the family she went to serve as a domestic helper punished her….

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MORE ON  T.H.A.T.. WONDERFUL RELIGION:

Saudi scholar calls for Panda
boycott over women cashiers
 
Ya Libnan (Lebanon),
by Staff   

Original Article

8/25/2010

Saudi scholar has broken the official rule restricting the issuing of fatwas to senior clerics and called for a boycott of a supermarket chain that has hired female cashiers, local media reports on Wednesday. (Snip)Panda supermarket chain has employed female cashiers since earlier this month – a move which has drawn some criticism from more conservative members of the strict Muslim country. (Snip)“The danger of hiring females in such public places is that it is part of normalizing the Western culture and that it is hypocritical and should be stopped,” he said.

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Tea Party Group Hit
With Death Threats
 
U.S.News & World Report,
by Paul Bedard   

Original Article

8/25/2010 

One of Washington’s principal supporters of the Tea Party movement, former GOP Majority Leader Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks, has been receiving death threats and profanity-laced phone calls as it gets involved in the fall elections. The number and intensity have reached such heights that the organization is leaving its downtown location near the FBI and moving to a high-security building near the U.S. Capitol. “FreedomWorks and Dick Armey receive dozens of threatening and harassing calls and E-mails each day. Many imply violence and use of weapons…..”

You forgot a lefty will never tell the truth unless it serves their purpose.  Until then they will color everything and anything to their liking.

Elaine, Obama appointed Susan Rice personally with no input from Hillary.  Susan Rice never liked Hillary; it was obvious from her commets about Hillary during the primaries, for which Rice had to apologize later.  When the adm. cannot say that Hillary said, or did, they simply say, the State Department.  It is worth noting that Hillary hasn’t said anything about the mosque at all.  To me that is saying a lot for her.

Obama should be singing “The Crying Game.”

Here is the music to the movie!

Again, can’t click the “like” link.  Pehaps all the tolerant people on the left don’t think Dick Amey is tolerant enough.

Thank you R3 Amy, for keeping us updated!

Since when are the mosque builders respecting the wishes of the majority of NYers and Americans…oh that’s correct….they aren’t doing that.

Chuck Berry–he’s the man!!

This is Bo Diddley:

Harp:  The UN will have to be careful about this since France just this week expelled a bunch of illegals and every other country in Europe is passing laws to deport even legal immigrants if don’t assimilate or commit crimes.  Camaroon is judging the U. S. on human rights violations?

I don’t see the problem here. Death threats?  Threats not against a  certain group of people are meaningless.  That 82 y/o holocaust survivor? What the heck does he know? I mean protesting the placement of a building is exactly the same as rounding people up, putting them on trains, running them through showers and shoving them into gas chambers where they all died.

Not only that  but I have touched bullet holes in stone walls where people were lined up, shot to death by Nazis.  That  means nothing as well.

So exactly where are these internment camps where Muslims are being rounded up and gassed located?  I’d like to know and I would try my best to stop this horror. If it were happening. Cuz you know it’s the same as protesting a location of a building for personal, emotional, historic, or sentimental reasons.

How dare he even mention discriminating against women after what he did to Hillary.  This part reinforces my suspicion that O’Bummer sees himself as some kind of hero to minorities and he is determined to wipe out the white mainstream majority.

Is that like the respect he showed his opponents during the primaries and election?

And see this is more of O’bummer’s twisted info on these issues.  As a “constitututional lawyer” he should know the document did have flaws and they have been remedied through amendments.  Everything he criticizes here has already been remedied long ago.

I don’t even believe these ratings.  The U. S. consistently ranks around 23rd in these surveys and it’s in worse shape than ever right now.  Denmark is usually no. 1.

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Well, it wasn’t enough to report Arizona to the UN, now this:  
 
Obama administration indicts America  
 
 
Washington Times,  
by Editorial     
 
Original Article  
 
8/25/2010  
 
Move over Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Syria. The State Department has made it official:  
 
The United States violates human rights.  
 
In an unprecedented move, the Obama administration submitted a report to the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights detailing the progress and problems in dealing with human rights issues in this country. The document is a strange combination of left-wing history and White House talking points. It describes how the United States discriminates against the disabled, homosexuals, women, Native Americans, blacks, Hispanics and those who don’t speak English. There is the expected pandering to Muslims….

US investors win right to challenge runaway boardroom pay packets

Securities and exchange commission measure makes it easier for shareholders to unseat directors of Wall Street-listed companies

Tea Party man Joe Miller set to cause a stir in Alaska

Rightwing candidate backed by Sarah Palin on course to defeat moderate Republican Lisa Murkowski in Senate primary

and if you remember it was obama making it a public nation wide issue by his comments.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67J45U20100825?type=domesticNews&feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=76
NY Muslim project spurs support coalition

Wed, Aug 25 2010
By Michelle Nichols
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Muslim, Jewish, Christian and civic groups formed a coalition on Wednesday to back a plan for a Muslim center near the site of the World Trade Center attacks in New York that has sparked heated national debate.
The cultural center and mosque face fierce opposition from conservative politicians and people who consider its location insensitive to families of the nearly 3,000 people killed in the September 11 attacks by al Qaeda militants in 2001.
But the newly formed New York Neighbors for American Values, made up of more than 40 religious and civic groups, said the debate was creating fear and division and that it would fight for U.S. constitutional freedoms to be upheld.
“We were not attacked by the Muslim world,” said Donna O’Connor, spokeswoman for September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, whose pregnant daughter was killed in the World Trade Center attacks. “We 100 percent fully support the Islamic cultural center in New York City.”

New York (CNN) – A coalition of at least 40 religious and civic organizations Wednesday announced the creation of an alliance to show support for the Islamic community center and mosque proposed to be built near New York’s ground zero.The group has launched a website — nyneighbors.org — and announced a candlelight vigil to be held at the site of the proposed center on the eve of the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attack.Members of the coalition gathered at a municipal building in Manhattan to announce the group’s creation.Talat Hamdani, whose son was killed in the attack, told CNN on Wednesday, “The issue is not about location. It is about our rights as Americans.”"All those people who died that day … they were murdered for being Americans. We should honor those people who were murdered that day by living up to America’s core values,” Hamdani said.

Neocons pushing the anti-Muslim hate:

http://antiwar.com/radio/2010/08/25/glenn-greenwald-28/

This is what’s so crazy. I haven’t heard anyone say they can’t build it. Just do it somewhere else. This is not intolerance, imo.

Ironically, that man chose to be abusive as his way of demonstrating, you know, to prove how “tolerant” he is…

Ron Paul issued a statement today excoriating conservative opponents of Park51 for violating their alleged belief in religious freedom and property rights, and added:

In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.
They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. . . Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam — the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia. . . .
The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. . . . . This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

It is indeed “about hate and Islamaphobia,” and that is the driving, enabling force behind so many of America’s most controversial and destructive policies.

The only way to stop the rot is for President Obama to consider for a moment what is good for the United States rather than for his political party’s hold on power.  He should act like a true statesman instead of a used car salesman.  If he is uncertain how to do that there are a number of good nineteenth century political biographies that he can read up on to learn the ropes.  He must stand up before the American people and state simply and unequivocally that Washington opposes any new military action in the Middle East and that the United States is not threatened by Iran and will take no part in any military action directed against it.  He might add that the US will further consider anyone staging such an attack as an aggressor nation and will immediately break off relations before demanding a UN Security Council vote to condemn the action.  Will that happen?  Fat chance.
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/08/25/boxed-into-a-corner-on-iran/
Mossad in America By Philip Giraldi – Former CIA Officer Israeli intelligence steps up its activity in the U.S. – and gets away with it. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26236.htm 

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FROM HILLBUZZ:

Sundance Cracker Says:
August 26, 2010 at 12:54 pm
 
I’m attaching a link to a government terrorism exhibit court case. This should put to rest the argument about the motives behind the intent of the mosque.
Pay particular attention to last paragraph in #4 explaining Islamic directive for North America. Also, #17 about Mosques used as “batallions” for staging.
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/PDF/GovtExM.pdf

Sundance Cracker Says:
August 26, 2010 at 1:04 pm

Excerpt:

“4- Understanding the role of the Muslim Brother in North America:
The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet.”
Rauf was a key component in creation of this Islamic directive. Please read.

CAS Says:
August 26, 2010 at 1:14 pm

Spooky – I was just reading this over at The Investigative Project on Terror.

California mosque vandalized, Ground Zero mentioned: The signs read “No Temple for the God of terrorism at Ground Zero. ANB,” “Wake up America, the Enemy is here. ANB” and “American Nationalist Brotherhood.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/25/99652/california-mosque-vandalized-ground.html 

Too bad this much attention wasn’t given when the Sundance Lodge was vandalized: then again these are just Native Americans.
Source:
http://newsok.com/battle-over-sun-dance-heats-up/article/1871477
 
Before it was forbidden the annual Sun Dance was held by many American Native tribes, practically all of the Plains Indian tribes. It was performed in the summer, usually in late July or early August, after the buffalo hunts. The Christian missionaries along with the federal government sought to prohibit the dance after seeing of the practices that were executed in the ceremony, especially the piercing of the young men’s chests. This to them was brutal torture because they failed to comprehend the spiritual significance of the practices and the dance. Some of the practices were banned in Canada in 1880 and the dance in the United States in 1904.
 The Native American tribes who practiced sun dance were:
The Arapaho, Arikara, Asbinboine, Cheyenne, Crow, Gros, Ventre, Hidutsa, Sioux, Plains Cree, Plains Ojibway, Sarasi, Omaha, Ponca, Ute, Shoshone, Kiowa, and Blackfoot tribes. Their rituals varied from tribe to tribe.
The sun dance was outlawed in the latter part of the nineteenth century, partly because certain tribes inflicted self-torture as part of the ceremony, which settlers found gruesome, and partially as part of a grand attempt to westernize Indians by forbidding them to engage in their ceremonies and speak their language. The Sun Dance is again legal through the passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1978*, which President Jimmy Carter signed into law. This legislation granted the American Natives the right to practice their traditional religious ceremonies.