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News You Don’t Want To Miss (aka, You Won’t Believe This) *OPEN THREAD*

There is much in the news about our current economic crisis right now, the mosque Imam Rauf wants to build near Ground Zero (on purpose), and Obama’s 274th vacation (okay, not really, but it seems like it).

But I’m not talking about any of that. Nope, I have some interesting little news tidbits for you.

First up, Rep. Maxine Water’s attorneys are irritated that she is still being investigated. Yes, they want the Ethics Committee to “Leave Maxine ALOONNNEEE!” They assert that since the formal probe is over, the Ethics Committee should knock it off. But as The Hill article indicates, they aren’t the boss of the Ethics Committee:

[snip] Unlike criminal proceedings, however, the ethics committee itself, not a judge, determines whether Waters’s legal arguments are accepted or dismissed. For that reason, it’s unlikely the panel will halt its activities after receiving the letter from Brand and Herman. [snip] (Click HERE to read the rest.)

So, there’s that. Perhaps it didn’t occur to them that Rep. Waters might have committed additional ethics violations. Just a thought.

Second up, and you’re going to love this, is Ed Schultz, of MSNBO and Air America fame, had himself a little “Mel Gibson” moment, as this NY Post article, “MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Goes Bonkers.” Just wait until you read why:

MSNBC talk show screamer Ed Schultz had a meltdown in the network’s 30 Rock newsroom, shouting at staff, “I’m going to torch this [bleep]ing place.”

The hot-tempered anchor of “The Ed Show” lost it during a phone call in the packed studio and slammed down the phone before exploding.

As astonished MSNBC staff members fell silent, Schultz glared around the room and yelled, “[Bleep]ers!”

A witness told us, “Ed was furious the network was running election-night promos and he wasn’t in them. He’d been arguing on the phone with marketing, then he slammed down the phone and exploded. It was like Mel Gibson had entered the newsroom.” [snip]

But wait – there’s more:

[snip] Our source added, “Schultz was told: ‘If you do that again, you are fired.’ He broke down crying.”

Sources say the hothead was pushed over the edge by MSNBC’s catering to bullying fellow anchor Keith Olbermann and its focus on golden girl Rachel Maddow. [snip]
(Click HERE to read the rest.)

Poor Ed – not feeling the love. Just breaks your heart for him that the MSNBO Execs love Keith and Rachel more, doesn’t it? Oh yeah, my heart bleeds for him.

Finally, did you know that the other name by which the Tea Party should be known is the KKK? Oh, yes, indeedy. Check out this OBC, I mean, ABC, report:

Did you catch that quote at the end? Apparently, Rev. Fauntroy didn’t since he justified his remarks with this explanation:

[snip]Fauntroy attempted to explain the comparison to white supremacists by saying that organizers behind the “Restoring Honor” rally are the same people who cut audio cables from a sound system the night before the historic March on Washington and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech at the Lincoln Memorial. (Click HERE to read the rest.)

Well, that certainly makes it all better: Tea Party = White Supremacists. I mean, c’mon, who could possibly take offense at that connection? Never mind that it is completely false, but hey – you know, that’s all he meant by it. No big deal or anything.

Good grief. All because the Tea Party dared to hold a rally around the same time they are being compared to KKK members? I have to say it – Rev, Fauntroy completely missed the message Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was trying to impart. His son said it all – his father “would not want to limit voices.” So, why is Rev. Fauntroy attempting to do so with this incendiary speech? That’s what I would like to know.

I am sure there are more stories out there that we may have missed. Let’s have them!

  • Texas Playwright

    Well, hell, R3 Amy, I usually thank you for your posts educating, informing and enlightening us all on such a regular basis.  So, as I grit my teeth, may I say thank you again.

    Dang nab it, these ignorant, trash talking blankety-blanks need to go live in one of the Stone Age regimes for a while–say, 10 years–and then see if the American founders had the right idea about governing a country. 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Schultz, Olbermann, and Maddow. Wow. Three hours of that mindless droning is nothing more than torture and should be banned for being inhumane. Perhaps the UN should be called in.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Fauntroy attempted to explain the comparison to white supremacists by saying that organizers behind the “Restoring Honor” rally are the same people who cut audio cables from a sound system the night before the historic March on Washington and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech at the Lincoln Memorial.
    =======================
    Same people, huh? How old would that make them?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Um, thanks?  ;)  

    You tell ‘em, Texas!!

  • donjo

    Nice try, but not a word about the Ed “incident” is true. Typical – and a perfect example of how people just make shit up. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Now there’s a good point.  I tell you, Ferd, many of the same people who claim to supprot MLK’s legacy are the same ones who haven’t a clue abt it.  So much for “judging a man by the content of his character” and not his skin color. 

    When even MLK’s son is saying everyone should have a voice, for this guy to call these Tea Partiers “KKK” members or white supremacists is incredibly offensive.

  • donjo

    Nice try, but not a word about the Ed “incident” is true. Typical workplace gossip – and a perfect example of how people just make shit up.

  • Required Reading

    Glenn Beck rally streaming live, in case anyone’s interested:

    http://www.facebook.com/restoringhonor?v=app_136483746394240

  • HARP

    “Special Ed” needs to be careful when taking his meds.

  • Docelder

    MSNBO Execs love Keith and Rachel more - That would be a compliment, albeit a backhanded one. But what is wrong with white folks having “dreams”? Or, are “dreams” only for black people now? MLK had a dream… Obama had dreams of his father… but some white guy starts to dream and he’s the klan all of the sudden.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    And how would you know? You could be relying on gossip from the apologists for that buffoon.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    So much for “judging a man by the content of his character” and not his skin color.
    ===================
    Character was clearly emphasized by MLK. That his latter-day followers ignore this pesky fact is stupefying.

  • creeper

    Loved your use of citations to back up your contention that this incident is not true, donjo.

    Try this one.  Oh, sorry.  That’s video of the incident under discussion here.  Guess you’ll have to find your own evidence that this is “workplace gossip”.

    Ed Schultz is no stranger to meltdowns.

  • GORDO

    “Last week an article entitled, “Look Here, Birthers!” drew attention to a video which showed what was claimed to be Obama’s passport. That article and video came shortly after 2 FOIA requests for the passport records of Obama’s mother had been answered with the release of some documents. While the FOIA responses and passport video were being analyzed in the blogosphere – a necessary venture – a much bigger story was being ignored: what I’ll call “The Whopper That Got Away”.”
    http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/the-whopper-that-got-away-4/
    —–
    “Jacobsen Affidavit and Exhibits”
    http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/jacobsen-affidavit1.pdf

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Seems the Dems are officially MELTDOWN.

    And they can’t handle the fact that they can’t ride MLK’s coattails any longer.

    In their last ditch effort to freak out with the last Ace in their Race Card stack, MLK’s own niece, is coming out against the Democrats’s race card playing against Beck and his speech, as she wrote an oped as to why she will speaking at Beck’s speech today.

    She has been supporting Beck, telling others to stop listening to the false attacks ad listen to what Beck actually says.  Has appeard on his show and now doing the big speech today.

    Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It’s a matter of honor

    Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., – explains why she’s speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0826/Glenn-Beck-8-28-rally-It-s-a-matter-of-honor

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yea, in this “New Obama World”  being born white is a huge disadvantage these days! ;)

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yea, in this “New Obama World”  being born white is a huge disadvantage these days! ;)

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Three Blind Mice…..Three Blind Mice…..one a penny, two a penny, three blind mice.

  • Breeze

    -      
         
         
    Obama, Democrats got 88 percent      
    of 2008 contributions by TV      
    network execs, writers, reporters
         
         
    Washington Examiner,      
    by Mark Tapscott         
         
    Original Article      
         
    8/27/2010      
         
    Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democratic candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

    The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks, with an average contribution of $880. By contrast, only 193 of the employees contributed to Republican candidates and campaign committees, for a total of $142,863.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    LOL I was just about to say, can I have what they’re taking?

  • elizabethrc

    I thought ministers were not supposed to lie!

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    It’s like the last time I was beaten up in High School in Miami.  When I went to pick up my younger sister, (end of school year) so I knew she was safe, the kids some how recognized me and knew I was jumped and said “the reason they jumped you was because of what you did to us all those years ago”.

    Uh, helloooo, “it wasn’t me who did it and it wasn’t YOU that had it done…..all those MANY years ago”.

    Gee, convenient memories they never want to let go of, move on and heal.  Their ANCESTORS did it to them.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    If we all did that, what kind of world would we have?  Oh right.  We see.

  • creeper

    Interesting find, Gordo.  The passport office claims they can’t produce Stanley Ann’s records because they were purged according to a change in the requirement for length of retention from 100 years to 20.

    Except nobody can find any law making that change.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Like the last time I was beaten up in High School in Miami.  When I went to pick up my little sister (ed of school year) to make sure she was safe, some young kids recognized me as to the one jumped the week prior.

    They said “because of what you did to us years ago”.

    Uh hello, “it wasn’t ME who did it to you and it wasn’t YOU that had it done to…..all those many years ago”.

    If we all did that, what kind of world would we have? Oh right. We see.

    I always forget, it’s only White people that are racists.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Never seem capable of moving on, healing from from it.  And conveniently forget their own ancestors hand in this .  Blame Whitey.

  • GORDO

    From the above link:
    ——-
    “The Evidence to Refute the Whopper”
    “Unfortunately for the Passport Office, Phil Jacobsen requested and received his mother’s passport application  from 1953 – a routine application which would have been destroyed along with Dunham’s if the records from those dates had actually been destroyed as claimed in the memo.”

  • oowawa

    Well Rev. Amy, I got excited about the possibilities that someone had already made a “Leave Maxine ALOONNNEEE!” video, but no luck YET.  However, look what I found instead!

  • Breeze

    -

    NRA declines to endorse
    Reid in Nevada Senate race

     
    Associated Press,
    by KEVIN FREKING   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010

    Sen. Harry’s Reid’s support for President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominees has cost him the endorsement of the National Rifle Association in his re-election bid. The NRA is a force in rural states like Nevada where many voters own guns and hunt. The absence of the NRA’s blessing represents a setback that Reid’s campaign was quick to address Friday by noting that NRA executive Wayne LaPierre once called him a “true champion of the Second Amendment.” Christopher W. Cox, chairman of the NRA’s Political Victory Fund, said Friday that the organization strongly opposed the confirmation of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court….

  • oowawa

    Schultz, Olbermann, Maddow–Oh My!

  • Breeze

    -

    Casualties heavy at hospitals
     
    Washington Times,
    by James A. Bacon   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010

    An Associated Press story sparked a small furor recently when it reported that the Obama administration’s ban on deep-water drilling would cost an estimated 23,000 jobs. With unemployment stuck near 10 percent, consternation over the avoidable job destruction was understandable. But that’s hardly the only example of how Mr. Obama’s policies are devastating the economy. A little-noticed provision of the Affordable Care Act will wipe out an estimated 25,000 jobs that physician-owned hospitals were expecting to create within the next year or so. To keep the big hospitals on the sidelines of the health care debate….

  • oowawa

    “because of what you did to us years ago”.

    That sounds so much better than the truth: “because we really enjoy beating people up.”

  • Breeze

    -

    Politicking Justice
     
    Investor’s Business Daily,
    by Staff   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010 

    War On Terror: A decade after the USS Cole bombing, the Obama administration has halted prosecution of the al-Qaida operative believed to have planned the attack. What an insult to the sailors who lost their lives. As the Cole’s crew lined up for chow in the ship’s galley during a refueling stop in a Yemeni harbor on Oct. 12, 2000, al-Qaida suicide bombers used a small craft to detonate over 1,000 pounds of explosives, tear a 40-by-40-foot hole in the ship’s side, slaughter 17 U.S. sailors and injure 39 more. It’s bad enough that our rules of engagement dictated….

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL – thanks for that one, oowawa! 

    And with all of the videos of Waters on Youtube, surely someone can come up with a good one for her…Hey, what are YOU doing now?!?  ;)

  • Breeze

    -

    Follow the Money: Could Mayor
    Bloomberg’s Media Business
    Interests in the Middle East Have
    Anything to Do with His Support
    of the Ground Zero Mosque?

     
    Big Journalism,
    by Mondo Frazier   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010 

    Call us cynical but we wonder whether Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s passionate backing of the building of a controversial mosque near Ground Zero stems as much from Bloomberg’s belief in America’s “freedom of faith” as it might from the Mayor’s belief in the “virtues of Islamic finance?” Does the Mayor’s unshakable support have anything to do with The Bloomberg (company) becoming a ‘single provider of information that caters to the Islamic business market’? A Bloomberg five-year business plan for an Islamic finance portal via a Bloomberg hub at the Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC) is already a reality….

  • Breeze

    -

    Ground Zero Muslim center
    may get public financing

     
    Reuters,
    by Joan Gralla   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010

    New York – The Muslim center planned near the site of the World Trade Center attack could qualify for tax-free financing, a spokesman for City Comptroller John Liu said on Friday, and Liu is willing to consider approving the public subsidy. The Democratic comptroller’s spokesman, Scott Sieber, said Liu supported the project. (Snip) “If it turns out to be financially feasible and if they can demonstrate an ability to pay off the bonds and comply with the laws concerning tax-exempt financing, we’d certainly consider it,” Sieber told Reuters…..

  • oowawa

    “But what is wrong with white folks having “dreams”?”

    Nothing at all.  It’s nighttime, and I always see this train going into this long dark tunnel . . . 

    And when it comes out, it squashes this little guy with a “hope and change” sign, who thought it was the brightening light at the end of the tunnel showing the way to the promised land . . .

  • Mr. Natural

    That Pinky (Harry’s nickname) is only 1 point ahead of Angle at this point in the campaign should give him cause to pause and reflect.

    Although I plan to vote for her (I’d vote for my neighbor’s cat before I’d vote for Pinky again), I must admit that she is largely a Dominionist, poorly-informed flake who can’t be allowed out without her handlers.

    (The woman thinks Cock Robin should is a felony…)

    And Pinky, darling of the Gaming and Mining interests, is only a single point ahead of her?

  • Docelder

    That is pretty telling. The left wants to “own” MLK. They want to be able to pick and choose from what he said and did. They want to put him in a box and use his memory for convenience sake. In other words… MLK has been enslaved by modern leftists. How ironic is that?

  • oowawa

    He should have put on his camo’s and gone out with a camera crew and blasted some geese, like Senator Gooseslayer . . .

  • donjo

    No, unlike you talking right wing parrots, I heard it from the buffoon himself.

  • oowawa

    The Victors

  • Breeze

    -

    IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, AT GETFITNOW’S REQUEST, I TRACKED DOWN

    THE MEMO FROM THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN THAT IS THE PLAN TO SMEAR

    THE CLINTONS.  IT IS A VERY LONG READ AND I INTENTIONALLY POSTED

    IT HERE IN CASE IT GETS ‘LOST’….

    IT IS HERE AND BEGINS @5.51AM

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/08/25/youre-either-down-or-youre-not/

  • Docelder

    The irony is so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw. Kerry shoots some unarmed geese… which makes him a real man’s man… as opposed to being Ms. Heinz’s lap hubby. But Palin shoots some wolves as a part of a wildlife management controlled and planned hunt and she’s some kind of a blood thirsty butcher of furry critters.

  • kenoshamarge

    Could anyone here explain to me why the White House has “frozen” the prosecution of the Al Qaeda operative, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who was about to be tried for the bombing of the USS Cole and the murder of 17 American sailors? What’s with that?
     
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/cole_killer_confusion_qlmIncXfkGQL4jUtI8uf6L

  • donjo

    So what?  You post 5 seconds of the “meltdown” and that proves something?  Sure the guy has a temper; he’s a red head, but let’s be sure to ignore our Lord and Saviour’s (he thinks) Glen Becks’s frequent meltdowns and tears. 

  • Docelder

    not a word about the Ed “incident” is true?… 

  • donjo

    Everything is on the Table” at the Catfood Commission

    Posted by Bruce Webb 
    []
    ……………..So the translation of “Everything is on the Table” seems to be: across the board benefit cuts to Social Security, additional means testing on the middle class, cutting military pay and shifting more of the cost of medical care to soldiers and retirees, and ‘progressive’ consumption tax. Meanwhile I guess the top 2% and even more the top 0.001% just keep producing along supporting us 310 million sucking parasites. (0.001% of the population is roughly 3100 individuals and maybe 1000 households and should handily include all those with 9 digit (multi-multi millionaire) and 10 digit (billionaire) net worth and 310 million – 0.001% still equals 310 million, Simpson was not indicting everyone, just you me and everyone we know).

    We can couple this with troubling statements out of the Obama Administration touting the success of TARP, the stimulus bill, and HAMP even though TARP hasn’t led to a loosening in credit to small business, the stimulus is turning around profits while not actaully reducing unemployment, and HAMP only seems to have allowed some extra months of mortgage payment extraction from homeowners who are now in large numbers re-entering default. But it is all good for the banks and the bonuses of the top 2%.

    Somebody is playing a dangerous game here
    , surely they can’t be so far in the bubble that they want to add active unrest among the left to the ongoing tea party anger emanating from the right. If the Obama Administration allows the Catfood Commission to define ‘shared sacrifice’ in he way this post suggests they are preparing to, that nice smooth road to re-election in 2012 may shape up to be a lot rockier than they intended. Even Reagan didn’t run explicitly on a platform of “Screw the Middle Class” and nobody back then dared openly come out and admit that in practice ‘Trickle Down’ meant ‘Golden Shower’. Why the Democratic Party is attempting a merger with the Plutocratic Party is beyond me.

  • Docelder

    The caption on that picture should read… reporting for duty.

  • oowawa

    “he’s a red head”

    and that’s a red herring . . .

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    HE said HE didn’t do that and said it to you. How convenient. And I’m not a right-wing parrot, asshat. Try another line of work as you don’t want to fuck with me, goober.

  • oowawa

    Though I will never support shooting wolves, especially from planes, I do agree that it is indeed ironic . . .

  • Docelder

    “Screw the Middle Class” – No… eliminate the middle class is what team Obama wants. Team Obama is friends to the uber wealthy and to global corporations… the rest of us are all the same to them… chattering class… peons… serfs… waifs… black, white, brown, yellow… same thing. You are “privileged” meaning wealthy born “in” or “in” at a global corporation because of where you went to college or you are a damn peon-serf-waif. Reagan actually helped the middle class. There will always be rich people. There will always be poor people. There will not always be a middle class. The middle class is what made America great. This was the real stuff of dreams. Team Obama are dream killers. They have taken our children’s dreams and traded them for their own personal stock in the globalists new world.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Your predilection for baseless assertions and uknown facts are going to be your undoing, donjo. Glenn Beck is a lot of things, including melodramatic at times (never seen a meltdown) but I far prefer him to a useless dittohead like Schultz. Why is it you leftist weenies listen to the voices careening around your empty skulls in lieu of actually doing your homeowrk? MSNBC is nothing more than a cheerleading squad for Team Oblahblah, albeit there isn’t much to actually cheer about.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Just what is in That One’s closet that he is paying a lot of money to keep hush-hush? If I were a cynic (and I am), I’d say that his COLB/BC is the least of our worries. No friends from the past, no schoolmates, no written record to speak of, no transcripts–a big, fat zero for a history. How long was he groomed for squatting the WH?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I’ve watched Dr. King on Beck’s show. She is an amazing woman and quite bright. She gets it.

  • oowawa

    Because it introduced a discordant subplot into the Obama script, which is mainly about “let’s all get along with the Muslims, and they’ll be our friends.”

  • jbjd

    donjo, BO said, he is a “native” citizen in his on-line advertising campaign, “Fight the Smears”; but he swore to the AZ SoS in official registration papers for the Presidential preference primary, he is “natural born,” as required by the U.S. Constitution.  Do you believe him, or him?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Holy cow, IADK3SLT, that is terrible.  I am so sorry to hear you had that experience…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Sadly, that happens to many great leaders.  Their words are co-pted but not integrated into their thinking.  Often the people who claim to be speaking for them are the worst offenders, like Fauntroy.  He clearly learned nothing from Dr. King…

  • donjo

    Ferd you obviously are living on another planet;  Here’s another opinion backed with links and a few facts, which, more often than not, are missing on this site.  (PS, I don’t watch MSNBC, Fox, or CNN; I figured any media source that promotes an obviously insane person like Beck is not worth the electricity.)

    Glenn Beck’s Messiah Complex
    Rupert Murdoch’s community organizer says that God speaks through him. Does Beck think he’s the Second Coming? (His followers just may think so.) August 28, 2010  |  
      

    The record for self-appointed messiahs isn’t good. (Kool-Aid anyone?) But that appears to be the path Glenn Beck is headed down — not that he’d ask his followers to die for him; he just wants them, for a handful of self-righteous feel-good, to sell their grandchildren’s future well-being into the coffers of billionaires David Koch and Rupert Murdoch.

    In the months since his February appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Beck has added a new element to his customary line of wild-eyed, secular political conspiracy theories: his implied anointment as God’s messenger, ordained to save the country and “restore honor” to its culture.

    This month, he added a morning prayer segment to his daily radio program, and has described as “divine providence” his purportedly accidental selection of the date for the rally he will lead tomorrow on both the anniversary of and at the same site as Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech. He has told his followers to expect a “miracle” on the day of the rally. And tonight, Beck’s production company, Mercury Radio Arts, will produce a pre-game event at the (cough) Kennedy Center, modestly titled “Glenn Beck’s Divine Destiny” (until it was apparently renamed “America’s Divine Destiny” this morning, per the flyers handed ticket-seekers who were turned away).

    However tempting it may be to dismiss Beck’s faith-based grandiosity as delusional derangement, there’s likely more than a bit of strategy involved in the revamped Beck formula, which is ultimately designed to marshal resentful white people to the anti-regulatory agenda of Rupert Murdoch, CEO of the parent company of Beck’s employer, Fox News.

    (more…) 

     http://www.alternet.org/news/148005/glenn_beck%27s_messiah_complex/

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I saw this yesterday.  It is reprehensible and inexcusable…

  • Sassy

    I watched every second of the Restoring Honor rally. I am drained emotionally, but it is well worth it!
    The Special Operations Warriors Foundation raised five and a half million dollars, and donations are still coming in! Well done, patriots!
    Glenn joked in the beginning that the media reported there were 1000 people in attendance. LOL! Later, he said there were 2 to 5 million!
    Shame on those who slander Americans in the manner they do. I could not sleep last night after Matthews, at the end of his program, said they were desecrating the Lincoln Memorial!

  • Armymom

    If you understand the terrain, you know why it is necessary to do it from planes. There is a democratic governor from out west who also has the wolves shot from plane, again because of the terrain. They have to be culled.

  • donjo

    I can’t believe the opinions I read here.  Reagan helped the middle class?   Give me ONE instance.  His policies and tax cuts for the wealthy been the major reason for the collapse of our economy and death of the middle class.   And frankly, I agree that the present administration isn’t much better.

  • jwrjr

    Evidently to Little Lord Fauntroy et al character is exactly skin-deep.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Yes, we remember his own telling words at that big fundraiser in Cali when he told his purple shirts, “you will never be able to afford a place like this”.

    Hmmm, not the inspiring words you would expect from a true leader.  And that says it all.,

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    dismissing charges.

  • GORDO

    “Have you ever seen such a systematic dissembling of simple childhood details for anyone else in history? We may have a motto, “Where’s the birth certificate?”, but virtually everything about this White House occupant’s childhood has two or three conflicting stories about it. This pattern doesn’t appear to have begun with his adulthood.”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=195953

  • Armymom

    You know, seriously, I did quite well under Reagan and I’d give an arm right now for my income under Bush. However, under this POS president, we’re barely making it, with my hours being cut in half and all. Under both of those presidents, I could afford my house, hell I bought it under Reagan, but under this Bozo, I can barely afford to fix anything if it breaks. I’m quite sick of hearing how the Republicans did all the bad things. I had been a democrat for over 35 years and I wouldn’t vote for a democrat again if my life depended on it, because it does. This group of democrats have spent us into hell.

  • oowawa

    Armymom: culled?  Is that what you call it?  I call it murdering beautiful intelligent beings.  We’re not going to agree on this one, EVER . . .

  • CarlyinNJ

    Rev. Fauntroy could not be more wrong. The Glen Beck “Honor Rally” held today was so profound and the message was about real “unity” and healing the divisions in our Nation.

    If only we had a POTUS who cared about ALL the people in America the way the speakers did at the “Honor Rally.” They all spoke without Teleprompters too. Very moving, very inspiring an Event truly about the profound power, love and compassion of the American spirit.

  • jwrjr

    Cynic: n. A blackguard who sees things as they are rather than as they ought to be.
        Ambrose Bierce

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Donjo, your baseless attacks are tiresome.  The claim above is offensive, “Here’s another opinion backed with links and a few facts, which, more often than not, are missing on this site.” 

    You may not like what you read here, but speaking for me, my posts are always based on legitimate sources.

    And not for nothing, but alternet has a bit of a bias.  Given its title, it is clear from the get-go that it is an OPINION piece.  But thanks for playing.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Wow, Sassy – that is amazing.  Thanks for the update.  I know we had 6 buses from the Charleston areas head up there yesterday.  How many people did they estimate attended?

  • oowawa

    Armymom: “culled?” Is that what you call it?  I call it murdering beautiful and intelligent beings in a very cruel manner.  Who do we think we are!?!?  We’re never going to agree on this one . . .

  • beyond__words

    That’s infuriating. Sorry to hear that happened to you by ignorant thugs  Linda. They knew the truth but played their own PC thug card to abuse you. Unbelievable….glad you escaped that ****

  • donjo

    Part II of above post:

    So does this short list give any clues as to why we always seem to be at war? It does seem to hint at how our physical and psychological distance from the carnage helps to sustain our self-belief as a peaceful people.
    The final point raises another noteworthy question. How do they (the establishment) get away with it?
    Here are a few suggestions.
    Fear – The twentieth century’s most successful master of propaganda declared, “Naturally the common people don’t want war. But….the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.” These are the words, at the Nuremberg Trials, of Hitler’s senior henchman Herman Goering.Lies – Indispensable from time immemorial. “Our armies do not come into your cities and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as liberators.” So said General F.S. Maude, commander of British forces in Iraq – in 1917. Blair told the British people and parliament that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that could be deployed in 45 minutes.No accountability – Also in operation from time immemorial. Rudyard Kipling wrote in ‘Epitaphs of War,’ “Now all my lies are proved untrue, and I must face the men I slew, what tales shall serve me here among, mine angry and defrauded young.” Kipling was mistaken. There is actually no need to worry. The worst than can happen is the Chilcot enquiry.Obfuscation – Weird language will prevent ‘the little people’ (to use a BP executive phrase) from knowing what is going on. Thus, those who fight back when we invade another country are ‘insurgents.’ When the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ wants to kidnap citizens and deport them to be tortured in distant dungeons, the practice becomes ‘extraordinary rendition’. When the establishment wants to bypass the Freedom of Information Act, requested documents are ‘redacted’. Military speak for wiping out military targets is ‘counterforce’; for wiping out cities with nuclear bombs is ‘countervalue.’ However, whether you are killed by ‘countervalue’ or a genocidal atrocity, you are just as dead.Change the focus – We are in Afghanistan to find Osama-Bin-Laden and defeat Al Qaeda – No, sorry; to defeat the Taliban; – No, wait; to win hearts and minds – No; to establish democracy – No, to protect the women of Afghanistan – No; to hand over to the legitimate government. Well, it is partly legitimate anyway. The establishment wants to keep Trident renewal. So keep it out of the defense review and assess it by some separate criterion, never mind how absurd. Let’s say ‘value for money.’ It has been estimated that the millions of people who can be killed by Trident submarines work out at about 3,600 pounds per dead person. Is this value for money? Are there cheaper ways of killing people on a genocidal scale?

    These are some of the means they use to get away with it. But Herman Goering was right. The people do not want war. And the good news is they (the establishment) may not get away with it for much longer. 90 thousand leaked documents is more than just a dramatic coup. Their publication presages vast new power in the hands of ‘the little people,’ or (more correctly) the citizens.

  • creeper

    “he’s a red head”

    Oh, donjo honey…I hate to break it to you but we require a little more substantiation for our arguments around here than “he’s a red head”.

    You’d better be careful labeling people by the color of their tresses.  That’s hairist, you know.  Your bigotry is showing.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    RRRA, thank you.  But it’s OK.  It was a part of life’s lessons, an education.  I would never let them ruin my life.

    Unlike them, I don’t pre-judge an entire group of people or race, let alone for the actions that others have done.  And my friends and even bf before, during and after are well aware of that. :)

  • Docelder

    Just for future reference… just in case we all wind up in the same re-education camp together… or whatever… :) just kidding… I hope.  If I am starving and freezing to death and going to die anyway… just shoot me. Even from a plane. It would beat freezing and starving to death anytime.

  • Sassy

    I don’t know what the final numbers will be, but the Reflective Pool area accomodates 2.5 million reportedly, and the area to the sides were full as well, and the crowd had expanded to the Washington Monument too.
    It was wonderful to see!

  • bamaLV

    anyone notice that at becks rally not a word was  spoken that could be considered racist while sharptons rally  was all racist.    sorry to disappoint you Al, but beck didnt give you any reason to claim  racism.  .i know you were hoping to be able to make a big stink.but im sure you’ll find something to criticize.

  • Docelder

    I wasn’t wealthy and Reagan cut my taxes. I still wasn’t wealthy when Bush cut my taxes and I won’t be wealthy when Obama raises them. This whole “tax cuts for the rich” slogan is just a damn branding campaign ad. None of it is true. Obama has helped corporations and the rich since he was enabled to. He has targeted the middle class for extinction. How that helps the poor I will never know, because it doesn’t. In fact is enslaves the poor to a lifetime of being poor with no bridge to even have the hope to ever become rich themselves. Hope and change my ass.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Well, after today and hearing a Lib on the days talk shows say we should grant amnensty to stimulate the housing industry.  Hubby and I screamed and said, if being that stupid means being a Democrat and if we oppose such unsafe and ridiculous governing means you’re a right wing, We’re OK with you calling us that.

    I guess Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who reinvented gov’t and cut welfare are White Sheet and Hood dressers too!

  • Yttik

    I watched the Restoring Honor rally on Cspan. I’m not even a Beck fan, but that was just beautifully done. It was one of the best tributes to the memory of MLK that I have ever seen. There were people of all races standing in unity together. There were people cheering for black speakers, people allowing themselves to be lead in prayer by black pastors, people singing and waving their arms in the air, people shaking hands. It really was a beautiful tribute to what MLK stood for.

  • oowawa

    Interesting thought.  Well, Doc, if those were my choices, I’d choose freezing, or even starving.  I would prefer to be killed by Nature’s indifference than some fascist’s self-righteous malice . . .

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Do dry up donjo. Your ceaseless gainsaying is getting old. It doesn’t matter whether Glenn Beck has had meltdowns or hasn’t. Beck is entirely irrelevant to the topic at hand, which is Schultz. Your illogic is astounding and that you can’t see the patently obvious–your fallacy of common practice, for starters, means you have a lot to learn.

    You trolls always have to have the last word, even when it is completely off-topic.

  • Armymom

    Amen Docelder. As an ex dem who goes to a dem accountant, she’ll say just what you said, that saying the “tax cuts” were for the rich is an out and out lie. Donjo, you’re just too partisan and have drank too much of the kool-aid to really see what went on. I lived well under Reagan, lived well under Bush, and am being crushed to death under this jack-ass. I’ve made t-shirts, want one. On the front…..Yes, Obama inherited this mess……..On the back…..and their names were Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Dodd”. It has pictures of them with the word “mess” under their picture. The dems took control since 2006 and we’ve been screwed every since.

  • bamaLV

    as a resident of las vegas, i too will be voting for angle.  i dont care how extreme dems. are saying she is.  she will only be a JUNIOR senator and therefore wont be able to much harm.  reid ,on the other hand, has  way too much power and has helped obama bring america to its knees.  las vegas is beginning to look like a ghost town with many stores and shopping centers closed up and all the houses in foreclosure.  thanks harry but you have done enough damage. its time for you to go.

  • Armymom

    I was so surprised to see Dave Roever (sp) say the last prayer. I actually got to meet him about 10 years ago. What a man and I also must say that his face actually looks better than it did back then. He spoke at a conference that I attended and we got to go up to him afterwards and speak with him. What a wonderful guy and he’s really funny too.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Uh gee Ferd, tell us how you really feel.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Oh, just wait, another resident troll, DBB will come to this thread and say there were only a few thousand and that we’re all nuts.

    Hahahahahaha

  • Armymom

    It’s called “culled” because they can get over populated and destroy cattle, sheep, and many other things. We have the same instance here but with deer. There are people who don’t want to shoot the deer, but they don’t want them around with mange and diseases or destroying their SUV’s if they should hit one, and they are so bad, it’s hard not to hit one. We’ve lost 2 kids in the area in the last 3 years because the deer went through the windshield and weren’t dead, but starting kicking and trying to get out and killed the kids in the process.

    You may think it’s murder, but it is one of the most humane things you can do. But then again, I grew up around animals.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Sounds like the Democrat’s playbook.

  • oowawa

    Of course, I can understand the concept of a “bullet of mercy.”  I can understand and appreciate that concept–but wolves, being innocents, cannot.  For them, it’s extreme fear and horrible pain–they can’t do much thinking about it . . .

  • bamaLV

    call me crazy, but its beginning to look as if obama knows exactly what hes doing.   bringing down america.  this was his plan from the beginning. he just didnt expect people to catch on to him so quickly. he thought he’d have 8 years to do it so we wouldnt notice.  luckily for us many caught on to him quickly and now that he realizes he’s only going to get 4 years , he has stepped it up. he has done more damage in 1 1/2 years than any other president in history.he shows his disdain for us everytime he swings a golf club while america is burning. he’s so “in your face” about it too. no need to use that finger he gave to hillary when his golf club works so much better.

  • oowawa

    And of course, if a pack of wolves is decimating somebody’s herds, that’s another ethical problem–okay–I’m now going to stop listening to the voices in my head.  Let’s just say that the ethical concerns here are ambiguous to me in many respects . . .

  • bamaLV

    heard barry called bloomberg for advice on the economy.  kind of like when he called  james cameron for advice on the oil spill. who is he going to call next for advice?  mickey mouse? or is that racist since mickey is mostly black. he’s already got most of the disney characters in his administration.

  • oowawa

    Well, I have to say, in the battle between SUV’s and deer, I have to side with Bambi . . .

    I grew up around animals too, and that’s why I love them . . .

  • don tufts

    you either cull or they over hunt their prey and if there isnt enough natural prey then they start on ajoining land with domestic heards and you pup and kitty just like coyotes.

  • oowawa

    Then you get your gun and protect what’s yours. 

  • Armymom

    lol I do understand oowawa, I really do, but if you’ve seen some of the deer that I’ve seen, you would agree that they’ve been put out of their misery. Some of them are so bad with mange, half their fur gone, sores on them. It’s sad really. And he’s right about the coyotes, we have those here to now where we didn’t have them before. I have to really watch over my grandkids being outside. And packs of dogs. I decided long ago, it’s either me and my family or the critters and I won’t let the critters win against my grandbabies.

  • bamaLV

    how disappointing  was it for al sharpton and his gang, that  there was nothing racist said or done at glen becks rally.? im sure they were hoping for a reason, any reason to call the rally racist so they could protest but then im sure they will find something.  stay tuned.

  • tango

    Well the Bible of Liberalness, The Huffington Post reported the Schultz breakdown so it must be true.  They’d NEVER tell a lie or spread gossip.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/ed-schultzs-msnbc-meltdow_n_695288.html

    Speaking of Huffpoo, I loved John Mayers rant against them for supposedly making up shit about him and Jennifer Aniston being back togather:

    http://www.celebitchy.com/114403/john_mayer_to_huffington_post_go_f-ck_yourself/

    Now I think Mayer can be a bit douchebag, but he’s witty and smart and I loved his remarks about HuffPoo.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    This is still irrelevant, boob. Go find a thread somewhere else concerning Beck. This is about Ed Shultz, a bloviating, melodramatic, manipulative gasbag. Moreover, Beck at least backs up his claims with the actual words of those he criticizes. I don’t see Special Ed doing that. Beck has done his homework and his critics are pissed about it and can’t refute actual footage so they attack the man, aka the ad hominem.

    Outstanding logic, there donjo.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     im sure they were hoping for a reason, any reason to call the rally racist so they could protest but then im sure they will find something. 
    =======================
    That Beck is white is reason enough for Sharpton to call him and his rally racist. At one time I thought Sharpton had some moxie. After the incident with the LaCrosse players at Duke, I changed my mind in a hurry when he didn’t apologize for his headlong rush to judgment.

  • oowawa

    Well, I appreciate these points.  In a natural world (without  human or government management), the wolves and other predators cull the herds (as does lack of food);  in a human world, I can see that we don’t want the wolves culling the grandbabies . . .

  • creeper

    oowawa, I hear you.  But man has already altered the balance of nature to the point where we have no choice but to cull.  If we don’t, one species will overrun others to the point of extinction.

    Our shop property is a good example.  It’s out in the country.  For years there were game birds galore out there.  Then they started to disappear, at the same time a population of coyotes moved in.  By the time mr. creeper could find someone to trap the coyotes the turkeys, quail and other birds were gone.  The trapper’s been working for ten years and the birds are just now starting to come back.

    As for deer, a couple of years ago one hit us.  Yes, that’s right.  HE ran into US.  When the highway patrolman came to take the report he told us that there are an average of 60,000 deer strikes every year in Wisconsin alone.

    I bow to no one in my love of animals.  It’s taken me fifty years to understand the necessity for culling.  I still hate it but I know why it has to be done.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    We have a problem with deer in East Tennessee, especially around the Oak Ridge reservation. I can’t count the number of times I’ve nearly hit a deer as we are overrun with them. I am always wary but they can truly come out of nowhere. I have three friends hit deer in the last year. It does no good for any of the participants in the accidents–the deer, the car, or the driver and passengers. To DOE’s credit, they do allow hunting once a year on the reservation, which helps a little. Of course, any deer that are shot have to be screened for radiation, which is another story.

  • Required Reading

    I just want to thank you all upstream from this (armymom and oowawa and Creeper and others) for agreeing to disagree in a thoughtful, polite, and respectful way — you are “my America” – the place where people can disagree about all sorts of things and still genuinely like and interact with each other.  This is the America I’ve come to miss so much …..

  • oowawa

    Can’t we just hate them all in a non-partisan way?

    Oh, I agree, the current “Leader” has earned extra animosity . . .

  • donjo

    Boy Ferd. you are one tough hombre.  I’m shaking in my boots; whatever happened to the call to treat people here with at least a semblance of respect? 
    Oh, I forgot, that doesn’t apply to people who are legends in their own mind. 

  • donjo

    If Ozero said the sun rises in the east, I would begin to look directly toward the west.

  • tango

    “But Palin shoots some wolves as a part of a wildlife management controlled and planned hunt and she’s some kind of a blood thirsty butcher of furry critters.”

    And other governors in states surrounding Yellowstone also do controlled hunts from helicopters as a way to manage the wolf population. I read about it in Smithsonian magazine last year.  It pissed me off to no end how Ashley Judd, on her animal rights high horse, slammed Palin for it but couldn’t find the time to publicly condemn any of the other US Governors who did the same thing the past 5 years. 

    If you let mother nature do her thing no matter the outcome, then there is a lot more animal suffering due to over population and starvation or under population and watching a species disapear due to over hunting an area by natural predators.  I think it’s much kinder to shoot wolves when they over populate then let them slowly starve to death.  Likewise when any animal population gets out of control.

  • donjo

    Do you think you don’t have a bias?  After a few months of hanging around here, I can tell what people are going to write just by reading their names.  I guess only bias towards the right actually is meaningful – at least around here.  MAYBE you could learn something by actually reading what people with opposing viewpoints have to say. Guess I was wrong, but I thought that’s what “political” blogs were all about, but when was the last time you provided a link to a left-leaning source? 

  • donjo

    Get serious, I wasn’t. I’ve got true redheaders in the family.  I guess it’s true that right wingers have absolutely no sense of humor. 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Donjo said:

    “No, unlike you talking right wing parrots, I heard it from the buffoon himself”

    and then said:

    “Boy Ferd. you are one tough hombre.  I’m shaking in my boots; whatever happened to the call to treat people here with at least a semblance of respect?”
    =================
    You are a miserable little thing, donjo, who can dish it out but can’t take it. You started the ad hominems and I merely responded to you in kind. If you can’t take it, little boy, then kindly take your irrelevant dreck somewhere else. I don’t have time for tidal bores like you.

    By the way, you’ll get respect, when you actually do something to earn it. I’m sure we’ll all be waiting until the end of time for that to happen.

    Buzz off.

  • creeper

    It wasn’t difficult to disagree with oowawa respectfully.  That’s just responding in kind.  And I’m more in sympathy here than you would think.  I still get tears in my eyes when we pass a raccoon dead on the road. 

    I hate killing anything.  I don’t even kill the nightcrawlers when I go fishing.  It take the tails off, leaving the viable head end, and turn them loose in my herb bed after everyone has contributed to the cause.  Killing any critter is a terrible thing.  That it sometimes has to be done doesn’t make it one whit easier to stomach.

  • donjo

    Therefore it must be too difficult for you to understand? 

  • creeper

    Lemme tell you something about the wildlife in Yellowstone.  I went through there twice this summer.  If they don’t get a handle on those road-blocking bison, one of these days some frustrated driver is going to start shooting them.

    Seriously, it was a challenge getting from one end to the other without hitting a buffalo.  But the mandatory fifteen-minute stops were kinda fun.

  • donjo

    Typical. The only response you have to some who thinks different than you (in other words, rational) is to buzz off.  Why is it important to you to earn respect on this board?  Getting respect from people like you sure as hell isn’t the number one thing on my agenda.  Let’s face it, you sure aren’t going to change your POV and neither am I.   

  • oowawa

    Yes, man has altered the balance of nature . . . you broke it, now you fix it.  But do we trust government to “fix it”?  Look how well they’ve managed the economy!  Well, whatever we do, we need to take the suffering of animals into account–even predators.  Obviously, the nuances of this get very complicated . . .

    And yes, creeper, I recognize that this crew at NQ is populated by people who respect and care for animals.  No doubt!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sarah Palin Speech at Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” Rally – Part 1

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    I did my own taxes for years. It hurts my tiny liberal heart to say this but the Bush tax cuts saved me money and allowed me to become a landowner. 

    I think, during the dumbing down of America, people have forgotten the difference between “truisms” and “slogans”.

    Tax cuts for the wealthy is a slogan. 

    There is nothing new under the Sun is a truism.  Why?  Because it’s been shown to be true over a long period of time like I dunno….centuries.

  • oowawa

    Well, using these last two posts as an example: bison getting out of control, and yet we’re shooting their natural predators from helicopters?

    Distrust government management . . .

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sarah Palin Speech at Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” Rally – Part 2

  • oowawa

    “I think it’s much kinder to shoot wolves when they over populate then let them slowly starve to death.  Likewise when any animal population gets out of control.”

    I think it’s much kinder to shoot people when they over populate then let them slowly starve to death.  Likewise when any animal population gets out of control.

  • lorac

    oowawa, you are GOOD!  So clever!  I’m ROFL!

  • oowawa

    “I think it’s much kinder to shoot wolves when they over populate then let them slowly starve to death.  Likewise when any animal population gets out of control.”

    I think it’s much kinder to shoot people when they over populate then let them slowly starve to death.  Likewise when any animal population gets out of control.

    “Kinder?”  This is very problematic . . .

  • Sandy

    I am a redhead too, but in all my years on this earth, I have never threatend to torch anything.  That is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard!

  • oowawa

    Also, I do believe helicopter time is very expensive . . . Oh well, the taxpayers are loaded . . .

  • oowawa

    Wow–not a false note . . . Thanks so much for getting this “hot off the press” JustMe!  Gee whiz, Katie Couric, this makes your question about Sarah’s reading sound so relevant . . .

  • HARP

    CAN YOU HEAR US NOW BARRY !!!!!!

  • felizarte

    Just what is in That One’s closet that he is paying a lot of money to keep hush-hush?

    What if somewhere in that document it states his real name, real father, and in the space for race–caucasian?

  • Olivia1998

    Sharpton is of the worst kind.  He uses black people (like the demcrate party has) to make a living.  He’s a rich man from using the word racist.  That’s all he’s done all his life.  Never had a real job. It’s time for Sharpton to step aside and let someone young with an open mind who really has minorities at heart.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Therefore it must be too difficult for you to understand? 
    ==============
    Well, there you go again, troll. Don’t you have some billy goats gruff to bother over at HuffyPoo? Go bother them and leave.

  • felizarte

    Everyone has a bias of one thing or another.  I have many myself, one of which would be against someone like you for all the reasons already stated by others.  I have others, but no one’s business but mine and I’ll keep them.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Therefore it must be too difficult for you to understand? 
    ====================
    Well, there you go again, troll. Don’t you have a bridge to haunt and 3 billy goats to bother? Oh, they’re your in-laws. Never mind.

  • oowawa

    Oh, what an ephiphany!  That big tall thing in the middle of the picture reminds me of my middle finger pointed towards the White House!

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Well, gee, there’s only a few thousand there. The rest are cardboard cut-outs. Oh, wait, carboard cut-outs populate this administration so those must be real people.

    Where’s DBB? I want to get its count.

  • creeper

    Oh, man.  If you can read that comment and not see a sense of humor you’re so far gone there’s no hope.  Yours was so far off the mark that I actually liked it. 

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Obama’s Arabic Teleprompter – Imam Rauf!  
       
    American Thinker,  
    by Eileen F. Toplansky     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/26/2010  
     
    In a stunning revelation, it appears that the controversial Imam Rauf has been quite instrumental in the crafting of the speech that Obama gave in Cairo. This report comes from Walid Shoebat who speaks fluent Arabic. It is a shocking audio recording of Rauf’s own voice boasting in Arabic that Obama’s historic speech in Cairo was provided by the Imam’s work with the Cordova Initiative. Once a terrorist, Walid Shoebat is now an American citizen and lives in the USA under this assumed name. He has a unique insight into the world of terror from…..

  • creeper

    I even understand using helicopters to cull herds.  But I have to admit I wish there were a better way to thin our coyotes than trapping them.  I hate traps.  But you’d have to be onsite for hours to have any chance of seeing one.  They didn’t call him Wile E. Coyote for nothing. 

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Enforcement On ICE  
       
    Investor’s Business Daily,  
    by Staff     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/27/2010  
     
    Politics: If there’s one agency that’s been made useless by its leaders, it’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement. If, under a new policy, being here illegally is no longer reason enough for deportation, why does it still exist? The Obama administration has effectively declared open borders to millions of would-be illegal immigrants — not through legislation, but with a sneaky policy move. On Aug. 20, its man at ICE, John Morton, wrote a memo stating that being in the U.S. illegally is no longer sufficient reason to send someone home. An illegal immigrant now has to be a security threat or else….

  • HARP

    At least 500,000 bitter clingers.

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    New Immigration Policy  
    to Halt Some Illegal  
    Immigrant Deportations
     
       
    Fox News,  
    by Staff     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/27/2010  
     
    Federal authorities have issued a new policy aimed at stopping deportation proceedings for some illegal immigrants, according to a memo issued by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The memo, which ICE released on Aug. 20, could affect up to tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who are married or related to a U.S. citizen or a legal resident who has filed a petition on their behalf. Illegal immigrants with criminal convictions will not qualify under the plan. ICE Assistant Secretary John Morton wrote the memo to Peter Vincent, principal legal adviser and head of the agency’s removal operations.

  • HARP

    So that’s who lives inside his teleprompter.

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Justice Department Gives  
    Second Ultimatum in Sheriff  
    Arpaio Investigation
     
     
    ABC News,  
    by Devin Dwyer     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/27/2010  
     
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the Maricopa County, Arizona, man who calls himself “America’s toughest sheriff,” has until Sept. 10 to comply with a Justice Department request to explain his office’s “operations, policies and procedures” involving the arrest and detention of Hispanics, according to a letter obtained by ABC News. The Department has been investigating the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office for alleged civil rights violations. Officials set the deadline following a meeting Tuesday with Arpaio’s attorneys in Washington.

  • oowawa

    Right, creeper.  And as human populations expand, someday they will just be another legend, like the chupacabra . . .

    It’s hard to be a creature in this world . . .

  • Breeze

    -

    Mosque raises 10G toward $100M tab
     
    New York Post,
    by Carl Campanile
    & Geoff Earl   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    New York/ DC – Plans for the mosque near Ground Zero took a big step forward yesterday. With controversy over the project still raging, the developer kicked off fund-raising for the Islamic center and mosque two blocks from the World Trade Center by raising $10,000 from a congregation of Muslim worshippers. Sharif El-Gamal announced the start of the fund-raising drive at yesterday’s prayer sessions (Snip) Meanwhile, records show Rauf has called for a “one state” solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem — an outcome some say could lead to Israel’s disappearance.

  • Breeze

    -

    Columnist Mark Shields Despairs
    George W. Bush Too Honorable
    to Use as Bogeyman

     
    Newsbusters,
    by Brent Baker   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    It will be “very difficult for Democrats to demonize” George W. Bush “again” during this campaign season, liberal nationally syndicated columnist Mark Shields despaired on Friday’s Inside Washington, because he’s “a circumspect and discreet former President.” Quite unlike, he didn’t say, the often boorish Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. (Snip) He’s become a non-person. He shows up at a ball game once in a while, he greets soldiers coming back. He hasn’t said anything controversial and that makes it a tougher fight for Joe Biden to make.

  • elizabethrc

    Ferd has earned our respect, unlike you, donjo.  He contributes quite a bit more than you do in advancing the dialogue.  Most of us agree with his impatience at your attempts to successfully troll here.  Success, meaning that you convince people of your points of view. 
    Not a chance, sonny.  You’re a broken record and the only reason you’re here is to annoy us.  You’re too boring to actually accomplish that.

  • Breeze

    -

    Thousands gather as Glenn
    Beck and Sarah Palin lead
    controversial Washington rally

     
    Telegraph [UK],
    by William Lowther   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    Washington- Civil rights leaders condemned the rally as an attempt to “hijack” the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s iconic “I Have A Dream” speech made exactly 47 years ago from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Mr Beck claimed it was “pure coincidence” that his rally – also centred on the Lincoln Memorial – just happened to fall on the anniversary of what many consider to be the greatest of all civil rights speeches.(Snip)The Beck rally was conducted along strictly patriotic and religious lines with speakers studiously avoiding any mention of the rival rally. But speakers at the much smaller….

  • HARP

    Obama`s respose to Beck rally….

  • elizabethrc

    If you can tell what we’re going to write, why bother to come here. 
    People here read widely and are able to come to their own conclusions based on what they see, read and hear.  Everyone has a bias.  Yours just has no value here.
    Many of us started out reading Kos, TPM, etc.  When they started their unrelenting nastiness, vitriol and attacks on all who disagreed with them most of us turned away.  We know a bit about ‘the other side’ and are fairly likeminded here in our dislike of the left’s tactics. 
    Conversion to your way of thinking is not in the cards.  Everyone has a bias and about the only correct thing you’ve said is that most of us hold a bias toward the right.  That’s life!

  • HARP

    One of Sharpton`s supporters got a good seat for the proceedings.

  • Daisy Mae 5- Grain Diet Cracker

    Ankle biter peasant angry mob moron raaaaaacist troublemaker evilmonger astroturf stupid disruptive rightwingnut Indy hick kkk applicant K street Lobbyist hired, mob, un-American, Nazi-loving, brown-shirt, bitter clings to guns and Bible xenophobic redneck teabagger extremist whacky maverick bigot homophobe nativist Islamophobe mosque basher.  
     
    I’ve been collecting these names since The Bobo’s onslaught. Looks like I have friends out there, all, even if only a 1000.

  • Dave

    I am 65 years old, I don’t remember race relations being any worse than they are right now  I guess the one didn’t do anything to help !  Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Lord Fauntroy, etc are doing their best to set race relations back 50 years.  The race baiting never stops, it just keeps these morons in the headlines.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Thank you, elizabethrc. I just hate it when trolls go after RRRA.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    left-leaning source.
    !
    ==========================
    An oxymoron. If it is left-leaning, it is no source and if it is a source, it can’t be left-leaning.

    The left is much worse than the right because they say one thing and do another. While I don’t always agree with them, I’ll give the right credit–they do what they say they’re going to do.

  • PssttCmere

    It is amazing that these three are what pass for journalists!  What is even more amazing is the percentage of people that take what they say as gospel.  WAKE UP AMERICA!!

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • PssttCmere

    Trouble is with the spin doctors who will try to make this racist all the way…it is amazing the lengths some will go to just to look like they are on the correct side of an issue.  Isn’t there some way to bottle common sense to make it available to everyone???  8-)

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • TeakWoodKite

    Google me this said the Joker….. What do you get when the 9th is upholding a violation of the 4th Amendment………..to be used as evedence against you.

    Court allows agents to secretly put GPS trackers on cars.

    Law enforcement officers may secretly place a GPS device on a person’s car without seeking a warrant from a judge, according to a recent federal appeals court ruling in California.
    Drug Enforcement Administration agents in Oregon in 2007 surreptitiously attached a GPS to the silver Jeep owned by Juan Pineda-Moreno, whom they suspected of growing marijuana, according to court papers.

    Ruh Row!

  • Samb

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-glen-beck-rally-pg,0,4839736.photogallery

    Made me feel so proud , to see so much pride
    and yes, it brought tears to my eyes.

    VERY COOL- GLENN
    :) 8-)  

  • Samb

    GLENN BECK
    RESTORING HONOR RALLY

  • Olivia1998

    ………..and Democrats

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Um, I cited from a “left-leaning” source yesterday, in fact.  

    Don’t presume you know me, Donjo.  Your own bias towards people here, including the writers, is glaring. 

    And if you dislike th atmosphere here so much, why are you here?  Just wondering.

  • Olivia1998

    thanks for the support Harp.   I don’t hink I’ll ever get that image out of mind.   It would have been worse if had been Sharpton

  • HARP

    Ewwww

  • Samb

    MEDAL OF MERIT ALBERT PUJOLS
    GLENN BECK RALLY

  • Samb

    SARAH PALIN 
    GLENN BECK RALLY

  • Geoff C.. The Saltine

    I watched all of the restoring honor rally this morning it was a moving and inspirational three hours of tv. The thing that stuck out to me was all of it was postive, the message was that we are in trouble as a country, but with hard work and understanding and respect and love for each other the America we all want will still be here for our children, but if the country does not change direction we will become, I don’t know what. Myself I have high hopes for us all still, because of people like Beck, my wife and all of the patriots at NQ. I am sure there will be a post on the rally coming soon from my wife, as she was there today with over 600,000 concerned americans who don’t like the direction boo and others have been leading us for years. Pray for our troops and our wounded warriors, its the least we can do for the ones who keep us free and Americans. 

  • HARP

    Nothing promises a better future than the children.

  • Samb

    Well said.

  • Samb

    Wake up Obama and Co. if this was just what one talk show host 
    can do you have lost the White House for sure.
     
     

  • Lou Filliger

    I liked MLK Jr. and I like the Tea Party message of limited government.  I can see Sharpton’s point that we needed federal troops to go into Alabama and Mississippi to help integrate the schools, ergo this “down with the federal government” mantra is overblown.  But I really don’t think the average Tea Partier would have any problem with sending in federal troops to help integrate the schools.  I can’t be the only person in the country who sees a difference between the necessary and brief intrusiveness of troops in Alabama, and the unnecessary and endless intrusion of Obama and the modern day Democratic Congress into our lives.  Am I?

  • jwrjr

    If Sharpton couldnn’t rant about “racism” he would have nothing to say at all.

  • oowawa

    “America today begins to turn back to God . . . ”

    I applaud Beck for this entire production, and think it’s a big Win.  However, I have been “put off” in the past by his emphasis on “God” in a political context, and I think this is a mistake.  I am a Buddhist-Christian, and I have no problem reconciling those beliefs.  I also have no problem with atheists.  Beck is something of a loose cannon on deck, and if he pushes the “God” stuff too far, I think he is going to lose an important part of his audience.  Of course, this is all IMHO.

  • ~~JustMe~~
  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    No you aren’t – which is why I am eagerly looking forward to November ……………………………………………………..

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Niece of Martin Luther King speech.
    Alveda King speaks at a rally hosted by conservative talk show host Glenn Beck on the anniversary of MLK’s speech.

  • Lou Filliger

    Agreed.  I’m a lifelong atheist and I have to hold my nose about the “God” stuff with Beck.  But I do what I always have done – I tell myself that what he calls God is something that perhaps I call by another name, but it is not meant to exclude me.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    … and Obama’s 274th vacation (okay, not really, but it seems like it).
    =========================
    Does anyone here know just how many vacations That One and his insignificant other have taken?

  • oowawa

    Great comment, Lou.  “by another name”–exactly.

  • Samb

    oowawa- I respect your point of view.

    I looked for the pride in the message. I guess it comes down to what
    you think the bigger picture is. We are all different, searching for different
    things that is the beauty of it. So many, despite there differences came
    together today.  I am amazed by it.

  • Lou Filliger

    Thanks for posting the Alveda King speech.  I took some time to listen to it all the way through, and I must say that apart from a couple of references to prayer in school and pro-life principles, her speech didn’t have much to do with the purpose of the rally.  Oddly, the only parts of Beck’s philosophy she seems to support are the same parts I tend to either disagree with or at least downplay.   It takes all kinds.  Oh, but being a white male, I don’t give the movement any street cred and she does.  That’s important…

  • Samb

    oowawa- I respect your point of view. 
     
    I looked for the pride in the message.
    I guess it comes down to what you
    think the bigger picture is.
    We are all different, searching for
    different things that is the beauty of it.
    So many, despite there differences came 
    together today.
     I am amazed by it.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Well, oowawa, I can forgive Beck the wearing of his religion on his shirtsleeves if only because he has awakened something else in many who are disaffected. But he does need to be careful with it.

  • beyond__words

    They would love to flood her small borders – just like the west today. Build numbers and slowly infiltrate the power base. All a matter of time.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    to comply with a Justice Department request to explain his office’s “operations, policies and procedures”
    ==========================
    The answer: He catches criminals and if/when they are convicted, he jails them, Simple enough even for a Washington bureaucrat to get their head around. Jail should not be a vacation getaway for criminals. I’m quite happy that he makes them sleep in tents. If these bozos can’t do the time, they should stay away from crime.

  • Katmoon

    Sharpton is about as much a real minister (in thought and action), as I am a virgin.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     Meanwhile, records show Rauf has called for a “one state” solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem — an outcome some say could lead to Israel’s disappearance.
    =====================
    Some moderate you have there, obamabots, in this Rauf. If this is moderate, what would an extremist be? Wow.

  • Katmoon

    ROFLMAO

  • Katmoon

    Sassy, I got chills when I read how much the Special Operations Warriors Foundatiion took in, FANTASTIC! =-X  Hopefully I will be able to catch the rlly online or in loop sometime tonight, I sure it will be played again. So glad you got to watch it.

  • sowsear

    What kind of batteries does he run on anyway?

  • sowsear

    all white and racist…

  • sowsear

    Reid found some big money not long ago to set up a large shooting range for a gun club in NV..That was supposed to be his ticket to success.

  • Katmoon

    That’s how we roll! Nice comment Required Reading, and a good change from being beaten over the head on a thread, by those who want to cause upset at NQ, no the regulars and most timers, thats for sure. Again, that was nice for you to point out, we needed it.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Oof, HARP. I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing that! Time for the bleach again.

  • sowsear

    Down in Rye, NY, they have to keep their children out of the front or back yards. Not long ago, two small children out playing were attacked by coyotes and had to have rabies shots.

  • Katmoon

    Staying out of it all. I hear an animal or a child in pain and I nearly lose my mind. I admit I am big chicken about the culling, and yet do understand, it just makes me sad, and cry. I will stick with shooting snakes. Ugh.

  • Katmoon

    I had to keep the channel changer ready when I was watching my Merrkats (spelling intentional), because I don’t do the death scenes. 

  • felizarte

    Donjo, everyone has a bias of one thing or another.  I have many myself, one of which would be against someone like you, for all the reasons already stated by others in response to the things you have expressed.  I have more , but they are no one’s business but mine and they’ve served me well to keep. 

  • Katmoon

    Traitors, bastards, cowards. Did I leave anything out. Sickening. I better stop.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Dud ones!

  • Katmoon

    I think Sharpton is just jealous he couldn’t get the same crowds, the same action and reaction and the same fantastic speakers. And, since when did it become racist for a white man or any white person to honor MLK? Is his birhday not a national holiday. Ridiculous. Wow, how long will it take for the people who scream racism and point their nasty little fingers at everyone else to see the real racist in the room is themselves. What exactly are they really trying to do? They are individuals, who should and will be held accountable for their actions and if they think we are so stupid as to include all people of any race and label them as they have done so, they are quite mad. Yes I group politicians, pedoaphiles, rapists and terrorists, it is in my best interest to do so, for self protectiion, beyond that, I don’t care. It is one on one, and how I am treated..

  • wodiej cracker dawg

    Wasn’t MLK a Republican? I think he was.  God rest his soul.  Apparently all those black people who said they were at his speech in 1963, weren’t listening to what he said. 

  • getfitnow

    “I tell you, Ferd, many of the same people who claim to supprot MLK’s legacy are the same ones who haven’t a clue abt it.”
    ********
    Yes, our POTUS is one. There was a little glitch in his (Parents in Selma) “fairytale.”

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Not sure but a permanent one sounds good!

  • getfitnow

    Is he still on the radio? A few months back I checked to see if the bay area still had a “progressive” talk station since Air America died. It’s still there, but I noticed Ed isn’t on schedule.

    I can’t bear to listen to them anymore. Even after the historic wins-congress and POTUS, they are all whining, whining, whining. Did they ever really enjoy the unprecedented moment in history they wanted so badly?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Different view

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    “I tell you, Ferd, many of the same people who claim to supprot MLK’s legacy are the same ones who haven’t a clue abt it.” 
    ******** 
    Yes, our POTUS is one. There was a little glitch in his (Parents in Selma) “fairytale.”
    =========================
    That is so true, getfitnow. King was a man of great courage, honor and integrity. Those who invoke his name, such as Al Sharpton, should remember that character was of prime import to King. Perhaps on this day, everyone should reread his I Have a Dream speech.

  • getfitnow

    There’s that slash across his head.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    For those who missed the Restoring Honor Rally this morning.
    Full C- Span coverage

  • getfitnow

    C-span is replaying Beck AND Sharpton events tonight.

  • Katmoon

    Wow, wow, and WOW. That is wonderful. Wish I could have.

  • Katmoon

    Wish we could have a NQ Convention of sorts; would be nice to raise a toast with all of you.

  • kenoshamarge

    I know it’s kind of a silly question but don’t you wonder why we would want to be friends with the people that attacked one of our ships and murdurded 17 sailors?

    I can’t speak for anyone else but it tends to make me feel less than “friendly”. In fact, nasty old woman that I am, I am feeling down right “discordant”.

  • getfitnow

    Don’t forget all of his partners in crime. He could not have pulled this off without the congress.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Direct link down thread!

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Not sure but a permanent one sounds good!
    ==========================
    I’m all for it. He really doesn’t do much for this country, although he does a lot to it. Otherwise, he’s either yapping, vacationing, or stuffing his face, it seems.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Wasn’t MLK a Republican?
    ================
    He was, indeed, wodiej cracker dawg.

  • Katmoon

    Not a silly question at all Kenoshamarge, it makes you want to know why this question isn’t being asked, outloud, at press conferences.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    There’s that slash across his head.
    ================
    Does he have bolts on either side of his neck?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    On his own dime of course. He’s squandered enough of our money!

  • getfitnow

    And what about the landlord of this bldg. Have you heard anything about him? apparently a local FOX reporter tracked him down and he was =-X . He was a waiter 5 years ago. Now owns several building in NY. Paid CASH for the perspective mosque building. something is not right.

  • Katmoon

    Thank you getfitnow and JustMe, appreciate it. 8-)

  • getfitnow

    There is no more blank slate. Citizens can make a comparison now. And as Ben Quayle said–BO is the worst president evah!

  • AC

    Good evening everyone.  Going to try and read the post then some comments but I’m bushed!  Replaced a water heater today.  What the hell is going on in this world!  I don’t begrudge anyone making money but when a plumber wants 75 bucks for a two minute job (andf they’re already at the site) consisting of 14 in materials–greedy bastards all (lawyers are the first).                                                                                                                                   I know this is incoherent but it’s an open thread and I wanted to say HELLO

  • getfitnow

    I don’t watch or listen to Beck, so I have no opinion of him, except today he organized a wonderful event. I watched some and it was a sight to behold.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    All Brothers coming together!!!

  • getfitnow

    Indeed.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Evening, AC. Yeah, plumbers are expensive. I had to have the main line from the water meter to my house replaced. I saved about $600.00 by digging the trench myself. When the plumber came to lay the line, he asked if I would come to work for him (apparently I did a good job on the trench). It wasn’t all that difficult but it did take me a few hours (I didn’t want to ever have to replace it again).

  • ~~JustMe~~

    All The Brothers coming together!!!

  • getfitnow

    But it’s a beautiful thing when those opposing viewpoints can find that common ground for the greater good.

    I refuse to march in lock step with anyone.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    All  The Brothers chipping in together!!!

  • Olivia1998

    Yes MLK was a Republican.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Because it introduced a discordant subplot into the Obama script
    ====================
    LMAO, oowawa. I can just imagine a soliloquy with That One talking to TOTUS about how unfair everything is.

  • Olivia1998

    Sharpton is starting to sound like someone becoming unhinged.

  • Katmoon

    Howdy right back atcha! Have a nice glass of Chablis, relax, and watch the sunset.

  • AC

    Evening Ferd

  • GORDO

    “In “Dreams..,” there are two references to scars.  Only one applies to Obama, and that resulted from a large cut on his arm he received as a child in Indonesia (page 49).
     
    Obama also tells of a wound he received on his head (page 36), also in Indonesia, when struck by a rock, thrown by another child.  In the book, Lolo Soetoro describes the wound — “it’s not bleeding.”
     
    There’s no mention of Obama’s wound in the single-page “doctor’s note” he released during the campaign (by comparison, John McCain released 1,173 pages of his medical records to the press).  So where did that nasty “hockey stick-shaped” scar on Obama’s head come from? — an accident? — a mugging? — an operation?  You know he remembers.”
    http://www.theobamafile.com/_oddsnends/ObamasScar.htm

  • getfitnow

    I heard that That One was asked to speak, but cancel when he found out teleprompter were not allowed! :-P

  • Armymom

    It was a moving event. I am especially proud of what they raised for Wounded Warriors. My son, army one, didn’t know what to get us for this past Christmas and since he’s special ops, we told him to make a donation in our name to his favorite military charity. It was Special Op Wounded Warriors. What time does C-span replay it?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Obama also tells of a wound he received on his head (page 36), also in Indonesia, when struck by a rock, thrown by another child.  In the book, Lolo Soetoro describes the wound — “it’s not bleeding.”  
    ==================
    A rock left that long scar? Must have been the mother of all rocks. IMHO, that’s a lot of hooey.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I Have a Dream speech.

  • getfitnow

    Finally someone has the guts to say it straight out.

    However, any repeal of Obamacare will die on Obama’s desk. Don’t start with the repeal. Start with jobs and the economy. Get something positive and productive done. Then send the Obamacare repeal to Obama and let him veto it. That way America will see Republicans effecting change to improve the country as a first priority.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I think a get together would be fun. I would really enjoy meeting all the regulars and the writers.

  • GORDO

    “A couple incidents were interesting for the information stated and not stated. One was pertinent perhaps and a couple others interesting. The first one under the title, “minor childhood travails”, refers to a lump Obama received on his head, but says nothing about a scar. The next title “forearm laceration” refers to a scar Obama has on his arm. At the end of the page, he mentions Barack’s birth weight.
        “Developed an “egg-size lump on the side of my head” after another boy struck him with a rock.” (Pg. 74.)
        “Ran into barbed wire while mud sliding in Indonesia.” One of his forearms was lacerated from wrist to elbow, and required 20 stitches. “An ugly scar” remains.”
        (Pgs. 48 – 49).”
    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/obamas-nasty-scar/

  • AC

    Evening Katmoon, for me, I think it’s time for some Wild Turkey and relax. Got enough for you and Ferd.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Thank you, ~~JustMe~~. It still gets me.

  • Katmoon

    What a great gift idea ArmyMom, you rock. How doin?

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    “A couple incidents were interesting for the information stated and not stated. One was pertinent perhaps and a couple others interesting….”
    =============================
    Indeed. The information that isn’t stated is what troubles me.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Wild Turkey, huh? Pretty strong stuff that’ll sure get one in a relaxed state in a hurry. Enjoy, AC.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    That big tall thing in the middle of the picture reminds me of my middle finger pointed towards the White House!
    ====================
    I hope Eugene Robinson doesn’t see that picture because he’ll have another phallic meltdown.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Wild Turkey, huh? Pretty strong stuff that’ll sure get one in a relaxed state in a hurry. Enjoy, AC.

  • AC

    All things/ideas are in the realm of possibility,

  • GORDO

    “Why does Indonesian Soetoro look nothing like Hawaiian Obama as a child with just a few months difference in the same photos?”
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-1971-it-was-british-indonesian.html

  • Katmoon

    AC, that would be fun, Cheers from TN!

  • getfitnow

    Could it be? =-X Listen at minute 3:07.

  • Seymour

    Geeerate thread!!! All of you. Donjo went south dramatically but Ferd made him go even souther faster in natural fashion. Great topics RRRA again!!! By the time I’d get done expressing how I really feel about these issues this thread would be 30 days old. I do think the Restoring Honor Event jagged a whole lotta wires out there today and we’re going to see some real ugly if not already. But really, how much more Americana can you get? I enjoyed it very much and I don’t tune in to Beck. Folk’s that normally don’t talk of politics were speaking very positively about it as if it renewed one’s patriot soul.
     
    With 231 or so posts, may I for time purposes offer a stipulation that I pressed “Like” across the board today, perhaps? It was that good. And Ferd, I would love to meet everyone but how’s that gonna work? Your in Memphis, I’m in California with all friends located from sea to shinning sea? I know, Anthony’s in Omaha. Best steak you’ll ever taste and they have a nice vegetarian restaurant about 150 miles south. LOL…would love it if the logistics’ could work, really. That would be somthin……
     
    Seymour

  • Onofre’s arm

    I heard an interesting point on the radio the other day. Apparently, Rauf was very vocal with his indignation over the European Mohammed comics. It seems he found them to be extremely “insensitive” to his fellow Muslims. Hmmmm, for a guy who’s so attuned to insensitivity, it is quite remarkable that he wants to build a massive mosque 600 feet from ground zero. 

  • getfitnow
  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Another ‘Moderate’ GZ Mosque  
    Supporter Can’t Bring Himself to  
    Call Hamas a Terrorist Organization
     
       
    National Review Online,  
    by Andrew C. McCarthy     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/26/2010  
     
    Last night, I was on David Asman’s Fox Business Channel show, Scoreboard, debating Imam Dawoud Kringle of the New York State prison system, a GZ mosque supporter. Imam Kringle, who seems like a nice enough fellow, reeled off the usual talking points about how Islam forbids terrorism and, therefore, if someone commits an act of terrorism that act is, by definition, un-Islamic. Then came the moment of truth: the very simple question, “Is Hamas a terrorist organization?” Have a look at the YouTube clip below. Like his friend Imam Feisal Rauf, Imam Kringle won’t answer the question.

  • GORDO

    “Another Obama puzzle: 3rd grade in 2 countries?”
    “The release of two sets of State Department documents through a Freedom of Information Act request has given new life to the puzzle of how Barack Obama could have attended third grade in Hawaii, as claimed by a classmate, while he has stated he was living in Indonesia at the time.”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=188801

  • Breeze

    -  
     
    FROM HILLBUZZ:  
     
     
    CatieR Says:  
    August 27, 2010 at 11:07 am  
     
    A German View of Islam — The author is said to be Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.  
     
     
    A German’s View on Islam  
     
     
    A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many Germans were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. ‘Very few were true Nazis,’ he said, ‘but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.’  
     
     
    We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to  
    somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.  
     
     
     
    The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.  
     
    It is the fanatics who march.  
     
    It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 wars worldwide.  
     
    It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.  
     
    It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, and honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.  
     
    It is the fanatics who zealously spread the doctrine of stoning and hanging rape victims and homosexuals.  
     
    It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.  
     
     
     
    The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority,’ is cowed and extraneous.  
     
     
    CONTINUED BELOW

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Communist Russia was comprised of people who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.  
     
    China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.  
     
    The average Japanese prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist.  
    Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy  
    of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.  
     
    And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be  
    said that the majority of Rwandans were peace loving?  
     
     
    History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers  
    of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:  
     
    Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.  
     
    Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.  
     
    Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group  
    that counts – the fanatics who threaten our way of life.  
     
    Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on. Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on – before it’s too late.

  • Breeze

    -

    The Sources of American Anger
     
    National Review Online,
    by Victor Davis Hanson   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    Behind the anger over the Arizona immigration mess, the Ground Zero mosque, the economy, and the new directions in foreign policy are some recurring general themes that reverberate in each particular new controversy. In sum, they explain everything from the tea parties to the wholly negative perception of Congress to the slide in presidential popularity. 1. Two sets of rules. The public senses there are two standards in America — one for elite overseers, quite another for the supposedly not-to-be-trusted public….

  • Breeze

    -

    Terrifying anti-Muslim crime wave
    sweeping America, probably

     
    Daily Caller,
    by Jim Treacher   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    That’s if you believe the screaming headlines, anyway. So, what have we got so far? We’ve got a drunk art school student who volunteers for a liberal organization that’s in favor of the Ground Zero Mosque. He stabbed a cabbie in midtown Manhattan after asking the guy if he was a Muslim. The kid’s in jail, and it looks like the cabbie, Ahmed Sharif, is going to be okay. Physically, at least. If anybody is qualified to opine on the Ground Zero Mosque, if anybody can be said to have Absolute Moral Authority™ on the issue, it’s Sharif, right?

  • Docelder

    Yep, it is hard to run against Bush when your record is worse than Bush. I don’t think most people believe in hope and change anymore. Change maybe… certainly not hope. These people have taken hope from all of America. If somebody can restore our hope and faith in America, then they will be a slam dunk for POTUS in 2012. Here’s a hint… it won’t be Obama. I hope it won’t be Jeb Bush or Hillary either. We deserve better. I wish it could be from a third party. But, I think time is probably too short to pull that off. I think maybe Gingrich-Palin 2012. Gingrich because he can channel Reagan. Palin because she could actually be a female version of Reagan herself given time and the chance.

  • Justine

    Small point, but Palin didn’t shoot the wolves; I believe the policy of shooting wolves was approved for predator control by her Fish and Game Department…
    .

  • Breeze

    -

    Black ‘Restoring Honor’ Attendee:
    Glenn Beck More Legitimate Leader
    Than Al Sharpton, Ben Jealous

     
    Mediaite,
    by Frances Martel   

    Original Article

    8/28/2010

    One of the most frequent criticisms of today’s “Restoring Honor” event is that, on the anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech, gathering thousands of Americans to listen to Glenn Beck is disrespectful to the Civil Rights Movement. Not all African-Americans are offended, however, and CNN found one attendee, Lloyd Marcus, who actually believes Beck’s views are closer to Dr. King’s than many modern black civil rights leaders. Donning a charming hat and enthusiastically defending Beck, Marcus argued that the rally had “nothing to do with race”

  • felizarte

    Now he truly belongs to everyone and with everyone.

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Surprise:

    More hate crimes against Christians than against Muslims

    By: Mark Hemingway  
    Commentary Staff Writer  
    08/25/10 2:15 PM EDT  
     
    This morning there was a report that a cab driver in New York was stabbed because he was Muslim. While the facts are still emerging, all reasonable people can agree this is a shameful and un-American act if this proves to be true.  
     
    This incident will undoubtedly be used by the media to further push the narrative that the controversy over the Mosque near Ground Zero in New York shows how Americans are bigoted against Muslims. So here’s some clarifying info from the FBI. According to the latest hate crime statistics available, there were 1,606 hate crime offenses motivated by religious bias in 2008. A closer look: 65.7 percent of them were committed against Jews. Against Muslims? 7.7 percent.  
     
    Depending on which population estimates you accept for Muslims (anywhere between 4 and 7 million), hate crimes are committed against Jews at a rate three to eight times greater than against Muslims. Yet something tells me that despite all these hard numbers — as opposed to Time’sanecdotal evidence” –  that magazine is not going to run a cover anytime soon asking, “Is America Anti-Semitic?”  
     
    After 9/11, there was a quick spike in anti-Muslim hate crimes — there were 28 in 2000, then 155 in 2002. In 2008, there were 123. Even one hate crime is too many, but consider: Between 2 and 4 of every 100,000 Muslims was a hate crime victim in 2008. The murder rate in D.C. last year was about 24 for every 100,000 residents.  
     
    Another interesting data point: 4.7 percent of hate crimes in 2008 were motivated by anti-Catholic bias. Another 3.7 percent were anti-Protestant. So from a raw numbers perspective, there were more hate crimes against Christians in America in 2008 than there were against Muslims. Given our large Christian population, it’s true that each Christian is far less likely to be victimized, but the numbers still show that religious haters have not been singling out Muslims  
     
     
    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/surprise-more-hate-crimes-against-christians-than-against-muslims-101489994.html#ixzz0xkAe7UC5

  • Breeze

    -

    Post-Katrina Demographic  
    Shifts Could Boost Rebuilding  
    Efforts in New Orleans
     
       
    Daily Finance,  
    by MATTHEW SCOTT     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/27/2010  
     
    In the five years since it hit New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina has reshaped the city’s population — and perhaps its financial future as well. The aftermath of the 2005 storm, which took 1,835 lives and caused an estimated $81 billion in property damage, has left the city with an older, wealthier and less diverse population, according to data recently released by the Nielsen company. If its findings are confirmed by the 2010 Census, that information could go a long way in helping the city attract businesses and outside capital to continue rebuilding.

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    A quarter of Katrina  
    aid money still unspent
     
     
    McClatchy Newspapers,  
    by Geoff Pender     
     
    Original Article  
     
    8/27/2010  
     
    BILOXI, Miss. — More than a quarter of the $20 billion in Housing and Urban Development relief funds that were earmarked for Gulf Coast states after Hurricane Katrina remains unspent five years after the storm, a fact noticed by at least one congressional leader who’s eager to spend it elsewhere. In June, U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, the top Republican on the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, ordered data from the Department of Housing and Urban Development on how much remains unspent from the Community Development Block Grants that were earmarked in hurricane relief funds….

  • Justine

    Open thread, so:  Got an interesting email this afternoon.  Speculation as to Obummer’s muslim support:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Help!

    What is the missing number?

    1 – 8 – 27 – ? – 125 – 216

    99

    45

    46

    36

    81

    64

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    36

  • Onofre’s arm

    64

  • Onofre’s arm

    They’re cubes. How about something harder?

  • PainKillerjayne

    lmao ….this guy knows Shultz!

  • jwrjr

    Getting the job done right the first time is, in the end, usually the fastest and least expensive way to do it.

  • Olivia1998

    http://www.youtube.com/user/johnnydollar01
    This is a must see interview with Pat Caddell about a tidal wave coming in Nov

  • Justine

    Go with Onofre’s 64.
    .

  • Olivia1998

    This is a must see interview with Pat Caddell about a tidal wave coming in Nov

  • Armymom

    Doing great. I really am one who needed that uplifting message today from the Restoring America rally. I needed restored to see that many people come out for that. :-D

  • HARP

    Excellent video

  • Onofre’s arm

    What’s the next number in this sequence:

    5, 53, 157, 173, 211, 257………..

    I hope you don’t have anything planned for the next few days.  ;)

  • TeakWoodKite

    Vanity Fair article;
    Todd S. Purdum Asks, Can Washington Be Fixed?

    Emanuel calls it “Fucknutsville,” and Valerie Jarrett says she looks back wistfully to a time when credible people could put a stamp of reliability on information and opinion: “Walter Cronkite would get on and say the truth, and people believed the media,” she says.

    It got so bad last December that President Obama and Emanuel would joke that, when it was all over, they were going to open a T-shirt stand on a beach in Hawaii. It would face the ocean and sell only one color and one size. “We didn’t want to make another decision, or choice, or judgment,” Emanuel tells Purdum. They took to beginning staff meetings with Obama smiling at Emanuel and simply saying “White,” and Emanuel nodding back and replying “Medium.”
    ~
    Still at it.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I say it can all be explained when he admits he is the spawn of Mork and Mindy.

  • Armymom

    Funny as hell….

  • felizarte

    Playing victim of racism is convenient; always a good excuse for failure at anything, as long as there are those who would somehow, feel the guilt of victimizer.  At some point in time, it is difficult to tell them apart.

  • creeper

    Shoot snakes?  That’s awful!  We need snakes.  They eat mice and other vermin.  They’re really nice creatures once you get past the scales and fangs.  One of the nicest animals I ever met was a boa constrictor.  He just wanted to drape himself across your shoulders and be petted.

  • FranSC

    On Geraldo tonight Sharpton was obviously disgruntled as all get out.  Geraldo pointed out that Beck went overboard to not be perceived in any way as racial – which Beck does every day. 

    Not to be outdone, Sharpton then, wrongly, said “Beck didn’t say today what he has said in the past, like, that Barack 0bama is a racist.”  Duh, does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?  Sharpton seemed to be saying the fact that Beck called 0 a racist makes Beck a racist.  Geeish!!

    MLK’s niece, a minister, has become one of Beck’s favorite guests – they seem to adore each other!  The NAACP wrote her basically telling her not to appear with Beck today.  She was infuriated and said she had to do a lot of praying.  The Rev was there, of course, claiming her blood line to Dr. King.  So that was two MLK family members who said today their late father and uncle would have approved of the “Bring Back Honor” gathering at the Lincoln Memorial where Dr. King gave his “I Have a Dream Speech”.  Martin Luther King III who spoke at the Sharpton-run rally said his father would not have had any desire to quiet voices.  

    Beck continuously makes references to MLK almost as much as he does ‘The Founders’ of this country and considers him just as important.   MLK was very much honored at the “Bring Back Honor” Rally – perhaps a little differently from the way King was being honored on the other side of the Lincoln Memorial.  The people at that Rally can only seem to talk about racism used against them rather than all the progress made since then – like a group of conservatives honoring this great Civil Rights Leader!  That is progress!

  • Lou Filliger

    My concern was that perhaps she and Beck weren’t finding common ground for the greater good, but that they were perhaps using each other for their own advancement without really caring much for each other’s agenda.  I don’t know either of the two individuals in question well enough to reach a conclusion here, I’m just speculating.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    so…. if lets say my bday is today 8/28/2010 and I decide to celebrate my birthday but I’m not black, does that make me a racist or bigot?

  • EllenD

    I like snakes. Now spiders…

  • EllenD
  • EllenD

    Look at Mickey’s face. He’s half black.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Things that make ya go hmmmmm!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Hope it means you had a wonderful day!

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    well thank you but my bday is in May…… 8-)   I was just making a point of you know the bullshit about how doing anything today is now racist or even waking up in the morning is racist, lol

  • FranSC

    Lou Filliger, I have seen Dr. Alveta King on Beck several times.  They have a huge mutual admiration of each other.  Alveta King encountered stiff opposition to appearing at the “Restoring Honor” Rally from the NAACP.  She was very angry about being told not to appear.  After all today was the anniversary of the “I Have a Dream Speech”.  She was doing several things in her remarks – Honoring  her uncle enough to prove to the black leaders that she could be part of the Beck event and honor MLK as well, not that she is ‘managed’ by them.

    In her remarks she was drawing comparisons between the two things.  Beck is an unabashed admirer of MLK.

  • Mr. Natural

    >>> because the deer went through the windshield and weren’t dead, but starting kicking and trying to get out

    That’s when you need a BAMBULANCE!

  • Mr. Natural

    Actually, it was for the Clark County Parks and Rec Department’s Shooting Sports Park, a facility open to all, NOT a private club.

    It’s by Nellis AFB, and the best/biggest thing Pinky did was to arrange for the Federal land.

    EVERYTHING around Las Vegas is owned by the Federal gov’t (along with 85.2% of all the land in the state) and usage thereof requires dealing with The Evil Empire.

    http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/shootlasvegas

    http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/depts/parks/locations/Pages/shootingpark-firearms-training-education-clubs.aspx

  • getfitnow

    AMEN!

  • Breeze

    -

    Obama’s August Surprise: Turning AZ
    and 22 other States over to the UN

    Canada Free Press,
    by Sher Zieve   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    After turning NYC over to the Islamists and leftist sympathizers, via endorsing their 9/11 Victory Mosque (any Muslim project called “The Cordoba Initiative” has to be just that), Dictator-in-Chief Obama believes that he has found the way to both destroy opposition to his Orwellian plans for the former United States of America and introduce OUR country’s final demise. (Snip) Didn’t Hugo Chavez affect something similar in Venezuela?  But, let’s face the truth, folks.  Even Chavez didn’t try to destroy his OWN country.  But, considering his true birth place, neither did Obama…..

  • kenoshamarge

    I see the threesome more this way. Without the humor of course.

  • elizabethrc

    After listening to a good deal of the rally yesterday, I can only conclude that a lot of black ‘leaders’ are very frightened by this huge turnout.  It tells them something that it is not in their interest to know:  that America is tired of being divided and that the people are the ones who will lead the way in restoring balance to this country.  The politicians and far too many of the black leaders are all in for causing dissention and unrest.  It helps their cause, which, in itself, does not help America.Their cause, just as it originally may have been, has been perverted by those leaders into something akin to a mass demand for retribution and handouts.
    Sharpton’s envy and hatred were hard to hide and he was falling all over himself to attempt to demean the significance of yesterday.  He’s in danger of going the way of Jesse Jackson (when was the last time you saw him in the forefront of the news?), becoming irrelevant.
    Truth is, he always was, just not in his own mind.  He’s also not looking so good these days, physically. 

  • kenoshamarge

    I agree with you about many things creeper but snakes is one thing we will NEVER agree about based on your comments.

    I am “phobic” about them and will run over friends, family, grandchildren, your children, puppies, kittens or anyone or anything that keeps me from distancing myself from a snake.

    1 snake near me is 1 too many snakes. And if we are so all-fired in love with critters, why is a mouse eating reptile somehow superior to a snake? I like mice. Even the ones that get in my house are simply caught in a trap that only captures them and released outside. (Where they probably beat me back into the house.)

  • elizabethrc

    Why is his hairline different in the two pictues?  Possible reasons for it????

  • kenoshamarge

    I agree with you about many things creeper but snakes is one thing we will NEVER agree about based on your comments.  
     
    I am “phobic” about them and will run over friends, family, grandchildren, your children, puppies, kittens or anyone or anything that keeps me from distancing myself from a snake.  
     
    One snake near me is one too many snakes.

    If we are so all-fired in love with critters, why is a mouse eating reptile somehow superior? I like mice. Even the ones that get in my house are simply caught in a trap that only captures them and released outside. (Where they probably beat me back into the house.)

  • kenoshamarge

    Please don’t stop Katmoon. Any invective, any expletive you can use isn’t enough to protest this disgrace. That’s my word for this issue, disgraceful.

     Will there come a day when the men and women that fight and die to keep us free and safe will simply say enough? Will they say

    “You cowards that don’t care about us try protecting your sorry asses from now on. However you may find that the enemy can’t be stopped by a lot of hot air and ideology. They back theirs up with guns and bombs. And they don’t much care who they blow up.”

     Will these cowardly traitors still be talking to those that want to kill us when something else blows up and more people die? I suspect so. In fact, I’d bet on it!

  • Katmoon

    Fran we watched that as well, and lasted to the halfway point, where the discussion started down the nit pick political road. Sharpton essentially said Beck didn’t have it right, and was not at all doing what he said he would do. It looked to me like Sharpton did not like that Beck had support not only from MLK’s neice but others as well. I think Sharpton looked quite small and foolish in his upset.

  • kenoshamarge

    I don’t need to ask why Katmoon, I know why. The media, as well as this administration, uses the military as props and talking points but really has no respect for or concern about them.

    When a Republican was in the White House every death in the military was trumpeted as a catastrophe caused by Dubya and leaving him with blood on his hands.

    The catastrophe was real, the concern was not.

    The catastrophe was for all those that lost someone they loved and the loss of courage and commitment that our country sadly needs in these difficult times.

    There are some Democrats that honestly, sincerely care about our fighting men and women. They need to get off their dead asses and make their voices heard about this issue. Until they do, they are just politicians that put their party before their country.

    Where is Jim Webb on this? Where is Joe Sestak? Where is John McCain? Where are these people? http://veterans.house.gov/links/vetsinthehouse.htm

  • Katmoon

    elizabethrc, I saw that too. What really got to me is somehow Sharpton left me with the impression that civil rights were not a purview of whites; somehow there is a disconnect regarding this. My understanding has always been MLK was for the civil rights of all citizens, that we should all come together, and indeed it was the unequal treatment of blacks that brought this to the forefront. However I also understood people of all races worked together during this time to fight for those very civil rights. Sharpton, has some deep issues in allowing any other race to want to celebrate and honor Dr. King.

  • Katmoon

    I know Creeper, snakes have their job to do, but my phobic self is unreasonable. One of our cats decided to bring a live one in the house as a gifty for Mom. My grown soldier son and myself screamed for all we were worth standing on the couch like a couple of crazy people. In Washington state I had a goofy neighbor who would bring snakes into his property, thing was they always ended up in my back yard. One big one got too close to the back door, and so I had to do what I had to do. I will never get to know how nice they are, the phobia is so bad I cannot even touch a picture of a snake. I don’t go out of my way to find them, and do just fine, we can coexistence as long as I don’t have to be near them. It relates back to being raised where rattlesnakes are the most common, and were seen as either lethal or food. Sorry. =-O  

  • kenoshamarge

    How dare George Bush be a “discreet and circumspect” former president. If he was a descent man he’d be out there defending himself from the constant attacks on him and his Administration by the Dems and thus give them more ammunition.

    By being quiet and staying out of the fray he comes across as having more class and descency than his detractors. How can they paint him as a boor if he won’t act boorish? Oh yeah, they’ll play bits and pieces, out of context, to show him as a nitwit. So they can help VP Nitwit make his sad and backward looking case.

  • kenoshamarge

    Lou Filliger, without any evidence to support your speculation why would you voice it?

  • an observer

    Let’s get some background to the Waters/Rangel thing you seem to be stuck on:

    The OCE was created by House Resolution 895 on March 11, 2008, as an independent body of six individuals—none of them sitting Congressmen—chosen by the Speaker and the Minority Leader of the House, alone. At the time of its passage, Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) had argued against the OCE, saying its referrals would be seen as tantamount to a guilty verdict. “Any other conclusion by the House Ethics Committee will be seen as a coverup.” Abercrombie also noted that the bill left open where the complaints were to come from: “I can’t figure out where the ethics complaints come from. Are they dropped off at the door?”
     
    Since its establishment in 2008, the OCE has largely targeted African-American members of Congress. On May 28, 2010, Rep. Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio) introduced legislation that would seriously limit the OCE’s ability to publicize damaging unproven “charges,” in order to terrorize their targets to resign. Fudge’s resolution has the backing of 19 other members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
    Norman Eisen is a Harvard Law School crony of Obama’s, who has overseen the Administration’s “ethics” regime from the Administration’s Day One.
     
    Barack Obama’s “Ethics Czar” Norman Eisen spent his formative pre-Harvard-Law-School years working for the Los Angeles office of an organization that ran a massive domestic spy operation throughout the United States, illegally spying on minority groups like the NAACP, gay organizations, and progressive members of Congress and other elected officials.
     
    From 1985 to about 1988, Eisen worked for the Los Angeles office of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the office — along with the ADL’s San Francisco office — that was raided by California police in April 1993, and later sued for spying on American citizens. The same California ADL whose operatives even sold information on American organizations and citizens to the apartheid government of South Africa.
     
    And Eisen described his stint with the well-funded and powerful Los Angeles ADL, where he was Deputy Director, as spending three years between college and law school as a “community organizer,” just like his Harvard Law School buddy, Barack Obama. A class action suit was eventually brought on behalf of dozens of California residents by former Congressman Pete McCloskey. Rather than go to trial, the ADL settled the case out of court.
     
    Eisen is a cofounder of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), a Soros-funded watchdog group which has served as an attack dog against targetted Congressmen such as New York’s Rep. Charles Rangel.

  • Katmoon

    It’s hard to play the blame game when the main target refuses to participate. I may not have liked the previous administration, but I respect GWB for stepping back from this crap. It only confuses people when each side is pulling on one arm. I appreciate it when either side takes a moment to shut up and allow the citizens to try to figure out things for themselves instead of being politically preached to about ethics, or all things moral. Not their job and it is intrusive, not to mention disingenuous.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    And Ferd, I would love to meet everyone but how’s that gonna work? Your in Memphis, I’m in California with all friends located from sea to shinning sea? I know, Anthony’s in Omaha. Best steak you’ll ever taste and they have a nice vegetarian restaurant about 150 miles south. LOL…would love it if the logistics’ could work, really. That would be somthin……
    =====================
    Seymour: I went to college in Nebraska so I ate a lot of good Omaha steaks. I would gladly travel there to meet the regulars and writers. (By the way, I live in Harriman, TN, which is about 35 miles west of Knoxville). Omaha is just about in the middle of the country, which might make it a good place to meet. There’s a great zoo, there, too.

    Perhaps the site asministrators can ponder a get together.

  • Katmoon

    Seymour,Ready for Omaha. Maybe we need a little private site(like a yahoo group page or something) to at least exchange information, if we want. I know people would worry about identities, etc., and keeping away from troublemakers, and maybe some folks just are not interested which is fine as well. I had a group page, long before blogs were the rage, for Army parents, and we exchanged our information there, so we could actually speak and write personally to each other. How we got around the worry over being bombarded by those who really were not part of our particular thing, was to filter membership by requiring a very real information profile, naming their soldier, was part of it, so we could verify. Just a thought as a first step. I am not a fan of the facebook thingey unless I can really insure it is private.

  • Breeze

    -

    El-Gamal’s rap sheet
     
    Politico,
    by Maggie Haberman   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    I noted awhile ago that Park51/Cordoba House developer Sharif El-Gamal appeared to have no track record of any actual shovel-in-the-ground projects, and today’s NY Daily News reveals the real-estate investor’s rather lengthy rap sheet. From reporter Jim Fanelli: Years before his latest real-estate project ignited an uproar, Sharif El-Gamal racked up at least seven run-ins with the law, including a bust for patronizing a prostitute.

  • Noogan

    The Amazing True Story of Zeitoun: A Hero of Hurricane Katrina

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/11/dave-eggers-zeitoun-hurricane-katrina

  • Noogan
  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     She was doing several things in her remarks – Honoring  her uncle enough to prove to the black leaders that she could be part of the Beck event and honor MLK as well, not that she is ‘managed’ by them.  
    ==================
    Spot on. her Uncle worked for inclusion and not division. Sharpton has missed the entire point of MLK’s work, whether intentional  or not. MLK belongs to everyone.

  • Katmoon

    To work toward this goal, I would request for Rev Amy to be the keeper of the private information, being a Rev, and especially being Rev. Amy I would have no issue with trust or worry. (now I am not placing this work load on her, that is for Rev. Amy should she be interested- I am just thinking “out loud”).  There are easy ways to check an i.p. address against valid e-mail addresses, so the identity of the person is known. Then perhaps a group site for planning and working at the meeting could be created. For that purpose, where back here at our blog home, we keep on the good fight at NQ.

  • eyelets

    For a man who is a Reverend, Sharpton sure does like to incite  the hate as a reason to not do something.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Sharpton has shown himself-quite well, I might add, to be nothing but a race baiting loser.  The guy is an ambulence chaser with the race card in his hand.  Apparnetly thrilled he can take over Rev Wright’s place, because the guy didn’t know where his next gig was going to come from.

    I visualize a perfect toon, The Kings marching with Beck at his Honor Rally, with Sharpton being dragged by holding on to their coattails screaming, “NO NO, MLK belongs to us .  Republicans are racists”.

  • Noogan

    Accident victim beaten up by hospital for trying to avoid chest surgery scheduled for someone else: 
    http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/08/25/29858.htm
    Nightmarish Hospital Visit Capped by Beating, Accident Victim SaysBy RYAN ABBOTT 

  • Katmoon

    Here is the article by D.R. that Pat refers to, a good read. Thanks for the video, he  has a good grasp of what is going on.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703545604575407160266158170.html

  • Olivia1998

    Soros is a ugly, evil horrible excuse for a human being

  • Katmoon

    :*   Breeze, thank you for always taking the time to find these articles. I cannot tell you how much time you have saved me from having to look for them myself. I still research on my own, but you come up with some that I may not even be aware of. I appreciate it.

  • Breeze

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    Mosque big owes 224G tax

    New York Post,
    by Isabel Vincent
    & Melissa Klein   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    The mosque developers are tax deadbeats. Sharif El-Gamal, the leading organizer behind the mosque and community center near Ground Zero, owes $224,270.77 in back property tax on the site, city records show. El-Gamal’s company, 45 Park Place Partners, failed to pay its half-yearly bills in January and July, according to the city Finance Department. The delinquency is a possible violation of El-Gamal’s lease with Con Edison, which owns half of the proposed building site on Park Place. El-Gamal owns the other half but must pay taxes on the entire parcel.

  • elizabethrc

    Katmoon, your last sentence speaks to the central problem with the Sharptons of this world.  The phrase, “in allowing any other race….” belies his desire to be fairminded as regards race.  It is not his right to ‘allow’ anyone anything. 
    He is, at best, a deplorably limited human being who ignorantly grabbed headlines during the Tawana Brawley fiasco, for which he was sued and lost, and for which he has never apologized.  It was all based on a lie and he has never been large enough to own up to it.  For this reason, he has diminished himself in my eyes, and indeed, has exposed himself as an agent provocateur in all things racial, offering little positive to the American community as a whole.
    His only focus is the black community and it has apparently escaped him that America is made up of many races and ethnicities.  With him, it’s only blacks that count.
    More’s the pity, since this will be his undoing eventually.

  • felizarte

    I agree with the interviewee. I watched Glen Beck’s production on C-Span in full and found it a fitting, respectful and uplifting remembrance of the man and the Founding Fathers of this country.  I could only watch the Al Sharpton one,  halfway and could stand no more.  The message(s) were uncoordinated, rants against the event at the mall, and pathetic in its attempt to make exclusive claim on the legacy of King.  I felt assaulted just listening to some of the speakers.    

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     I felt assaulted just listening to some of the speakers.    
    =======================
    That’s a good descsription of what I felt, too, felizarte. It was all so divisive.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Good, well by May, maybe you can wake up as you and the racist meme is out of the window instead of being ramped up and thrown in our faces!

  • Onofre’s arm

    That’s a very strange incident. However, my radar is beeping off the scale, I suspect there may be some important factual elements missing from this story.

  • creeper

    Understand that feeling completely, Katmoon.  I feel the same way about roaches.

  • Breeze

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    I am glad, Kat.

    I don’t buy newspapers anymore, so I read the news on the net.  I am
    both a news/political junkie.

    So, why not share?  I am stuck home (old and rather ‘infirm’) and I
    know some of you have jobs and/or other responsibilities….

    Plus I know how the majority here at NQ thinks, IMHO and I try to bring
    whatever I perceive would be of interest.

    If I should overstep my bounderies, please let me know…

    Hugs,
    B

  • Katmoon

    Oh man, Creeper, they are next on the hit list, so nasty. I had never seen a real one until this year. Wigged me out big time, thought I walked into a prehistoric movie. I don’t usually mind bugs,(until they are bigger than my finger-those ugly bugs here in the south that show up my the hundreds~oogie!) and always put crickets outside if they get in the house; but if they jump on me, well its over for them. Mice, well not an issue with 10 cats and I finally got them over the lets give mom portions of the “prize”, when they caught one. They are old and lazy and are not much for hunting anymore, but a couple keep us from worrying.

  • PssttCmere

    bamaLV….I could not agree more!!  Casinos are obviously the biggest industry here, and seems like little else is going on.  And, you are correct, this place is beginning to look like a ghost town.  It is a sad sight.  Angle is my choice this time around too!

    And while there are no state taxes here, NV is finding new and creative ways to obtain money.  However, it is to the detriment of business owners or anyone trying to make a dollar.

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • Seymour

    Go Bellevue High!!!! Ferd, this would be a genuine hoot. The Zoo, the Henry Doorly (sic) Zoo. I still have friends there!
     

  • Lou Filliger

    Thanks for explaining, that was very helpful.  I’m thinking maybe it is I who don’t really support Beck all that much.  While I respect his religion (and MLK’s), I don’t really believe a return to religion is what America needs now.  While I believe that kids should be able to pray in school, I don’t think it has much to do with whether we wind up as socialists or not.  Abortion is a tricky subject, but if you want to talk about inclusiveness, then shouldn’t pro-lifers and pro-choice both be invited to coexist under the tea party umbrella?  All in all, I liked the 9/12/09 (last year’s) rally better than this one.  I believe strongly in the tea party movement but do not personally subscribe to much of what was said yesterday.

    I personally hold freedom up as the touchstone against which all else is measured.   I didn’t hear that same philosophy in Alveda King’s speech yesterday.  If I missed it, then my bad, shame on me.

  • Lou Filliger

    My own eyes, ears and intuition are evidence enough for me to at least raise the question.  Then somebody responded, and based on that response I then admitted that my initial conclusion was incorrect.  This is how I think intelligent debate should proceed.

  • Lou Filliger

    Also, the idea that once you stage a successful rally in D.C., you “own” the anniversary thereof for all years to come, is ridiculous.

  • Lou Filliger

    So sorry for the multiple posts, tried using an older computer, somebody please delete them for me.  Thanks ….

  • Seymour

    I’m hip Katmoon. I like the idea a lot. I’ll stay tuned…and if I can help, holler.
     
    You’re so right about NQ; it saved my sanity during this last election and to this day. I was grasping for a site that spoke with me and not at me. Mrs. Seymour saw my misery and placed “Just Say No Deal” as my laptop homepage which brought me to NQ. I was simply astonished. I remember emailing Larry saying I would genuinely like to post articles on the site. He was very gracious saying no problem…but I never did. Looking back, how in the world could I possibly rise to the level of the sites current authors? There is no way…they have done and continue to do an outstanding job!! I know the subject matter is outstanding, like Reverend Amy’s threads last week, when steam jets out of my ears, my eyes go bloodshot all the while pounding my thoughts on the keyboard so fast only to come back and read what looks to be shorthand of a private conversation between toddler twins. The material on this board and this one alone has moved my mental magma. LJ, RRRA, LA, BC, PR, et al., consistently knock it out of the park. I know I’m in good hands with the discussion I want. Exemplary job and it’s the best I’ve read on the internet. Larry & Co needs to know how much value I and I trust all of us gain personally from this site.
     
    Seymour   
     

  • CentralMass

    Harmless? I’ve seen them obliterate a soccer field, boat docks, and other public plasses with their dropping.  Vile creatures, a step below the seagull on the food chain. ;)

  • Katmoon

    Yay, I found downstairs, I wasn’t sure if it was article downstirs, or othrwise. Ha! You are fantastic.  

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL – thanks, Seymour – you are too funny.  We all love hearing what you have to say, though, so you go right ahead!

    What a wonderful compliment, and you honor me by putting me in the company of the writers you mentioned – thanks!!!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I agree – I think it would be fun.  Where should we meet, Arizona?  ;) I have some things coming up in the next few months, but seriously – I think it owuld be a blast.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I agree – I think it would be fun.  Where should we meet, Arizona?  ;) I have some things coming up in the next few months, but seriously – I think it would be a blast.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Arizona would be good.

    I wonder, though, if something more central would be better since there are people on NQ from all over the country. I’m game, however, for wherever it might be held.

  • Seymour

    More than you know Rev. Amy. You are so talented to truffle out and expand on any given issue. The privilege to read and ponder your work is all mine, I assure you.  
     

  • sowsear

    Obama claims he isn’t a Muslim…20% of those polled think so because of “media misinterpretation” (per yahoo News)

  • sowsear

    Like all of those poor old ladies who gave $5 donations to the BO campaign that brought in millions a month

  • sowsear

    I worry about Christian Conservatives taking over in the next election, but I worry more about BO and his evil intentions.

  • sowsear

    But he does need to be careful with it.

    I do not think Beck is going to step back from what he believes to be the right message at this time….especially given yesterday’s reception

  • Samb

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Breeze

    -

    Brian Williams Treats Obama
    as Oracle of Wisdom, Wonders:
    ‘How Are You Thinking About
    Your Job These Days?’

    NewsBusters,
    by Brent Baker   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    Interviewing President Barack Obama in New Orleans on Sunday afternoon, Brian Williams treated Obama with a level of deference he didn’t afford to President George W. Bush as he treated Obama as a great oracle of wisdom to pluck. “Katrina was about so many things. It was about class and race and government and the environment,” Williams told Obama in the except aired on the NBC Nightly News, yearning for guidance: “Whatever happened to that national conversation we were supposed to have about it?”

  • Breeze

    -

    The Clean Development Mechanism
    delivers the greatest green scam of all

     
    UK Telegraph,
    by Christopher Booker   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    It is now six months since I reported on what even envi
    mentalists are calling “the biggest environmental scandal in history”. Indeed this is a scam so glaringly bizarre that even the UN and the EU have belatedly announced that they are thinking of taking steps to stop it. The essence of the scam is that a handful of Chinese and Indian firms are deliberately producing large quantities of an incredibly powerful “greenhouse gas” which we in the West – including UK taxpayers – then pay them billions of dollars to destroy.

  • Breeze

    -

    Run Like A Deere From Cap-And-Trade
     
    Investor’s Business Daily,
    by Staff   

    Original Article

    8/29/2010

    Junk Science: Deere & Co., a major player in the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, drops out, saying the group’s legislative strategy is no longer a foundation for moving forward. Is cap-and-trade dead? The farm equipment giant was a major player in the Climate Action Partnership, a group of large firms that advocate cap-and-trade legislation and lead the drive for reductions of so-called greenhouse gases. In announcing its withdrawal, spokesman Ken Golden said: “We came to the conclusion that Deere had other opportunities to be involved in climate change initiatives.”

  • creeper

    I lived in Houston for twenty years.  They had roaches so big we once caught one in a mousetrap.  My “Do Not Kill Creatures” philosophy does not extend to roaches.

    I put them to good use, though.  When my son was small, we used to take flyswatters outside at night and walk around the pool apron.  There were roaches by the hundreds.  We swatted them until our arms were tired.  My son’s aim with a flyswatter would be the envy of Babe Ruth.

  • Breeze

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    Carolinians flock to Washington
    for Beck rally

    Charlotte Observer (NC),
    by Jim Morril   

    Original Article

    8/27/2010

    Elena Sutton is fed up. That’s why she left her Pageland, S.C. home Friday to join Glenn Beck’s “Restoring America” rally in Washington today. “I just really believe that this county from an ethical, Christian and moral standpoint has just disintegrated,” said the 39-year-old physician. “And it’s time for the people in the trenches to stand up and say ‘enough is enough’.” Sutton is one of hundreds of Carolinians who plan to attend the rally. Organizers say they expect as many as 300,000 people to gather at the Lincoln Memorial to hear Beck, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and others.