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McCain: Put Bail-Out Proposal Up on the ‘Net

mccainscranton.jpgHere’s a great idea: McCain, speaking today in Scranton, Pennsylvania, proposed that the three-page Paulson outline that Congress is expected to vote on soon, be placed on the Internet so that all Americans can read the proposal for themselves and contact their members of Congress.

Noting that Obama has so far failed to come up with a proposal, and that he did last Friday, McCain also said that the proposed “arrangement makes me deeply uncomfortable.” He continued, “When we are talking about a trillion dollars of taxpayer money ‘trust me’ just isn’t good enough.”

“We will not solve a problem caused by poor oversight with a plan that has no oversight,” he added. My thoughts and the full text of McCain’s speech are below:

MY TWO CENTS: I’m glad to see that someone is questioning the advisability of this plan as well as the astonishing new precedent of placing so much money and power in one man, the Secretary of the Treasury. For one thing — and I’m just guessing here — such an enormous aid package to huge corporations will mean that there’ll be no money left for any decent health care proposals, for improving Medicare, for investing in education and the environment, for pouring the billions needed into alternative energy. I hope I’m wrong.

But does Barack Obama really think his lofty proposals — which will require billions upon billions — will have the funding needed if he signs on for this massive bail-out? Does anyone have a clue how he’s going to end up voting on this plan? If he has any alternative proposals and/or amendments?

(I’m not saying I’m against the bail-out. Frankly, I find it very complex and I’m mindful of the possible ramifications if the government doesn’t step up to the plate right now. But I truly wish it were Hillary Clinton making these proposals and decisions. If you missed it, check out her speech on the economy, including her proposals, last week.)

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Via The Page:

Remarks As Prepared For Delivery At Irish-American Presidential Forum
Scranton, PA
Monday, September 22, 2008

Thank you for the honor of appearing with you here today. The Irish-American Presidential Forum has been held since 1984, and since its inception there has been a lack of Republicans. And while my affection for Democrats and independents is deep and wide, I am proud to be the first Republican to appear before the Forum.

You are very kind to invite someone with a name like McCain, a Scots-Irish descendent whose family came to the New World some generations ago. I hope you won’t hold it against us – I do try to get back to the island as often as possible.

I’d like to talk about some issues that are of particular concern to Irish-Americans, but before I do, I’d like to take a couple minutes to talk about an issue that is concerning to us all, and that is the economic crisis that we have all been following since last week.

On Friday, I laid out my plan for addressing this crisis. At its heart, my plan is about keeping people in their homes and safeguarding the life savings of all Americans by protecting our financial system and capital markets. These are my priorities.

Senator Obama has declined to put forth a plan of his own. At a time of crisis, when leadership is needed, Senator Obama has simply not provided it.

And the truth is that we don’t have time to wait for Senator Obama’s input for our nation to act. I think it is clear that Congress must act and must act quickly. I laid out my plan and my priorities last Friday. I spoke to Secretary Paulson over the weekend, and I’ve been looking at the plan the administration has put forth. I urge Congress to study this proposal carefully as they consider the remedy for this crisis.

As for me, I am greatly concerned that the plan gives a single individual the unprecedented power to spend $1 trillion – trillion – dollars without any meaningful accountability. Never before in the history of our nation has so much power and money been concentrated in the hands of one person. This arrangement makes me deeply uncomfortable. When we are talking about a trillion dollars of taxpayer money “trust me” just isn’t good enough.

We will not solve a problem caused by poor oversight with a plan that has no oversight. Part of the reason we are facing this crisis is an antiquated regulatory system of uncoordinated agencies that haven’t been doing the job.

I believe we need a high level oversight board to impose accountability and establish concrete criteria for who gets help and who does not. They must ensure that throughout this crisis, the government is a careful steward of the taxpayer’s dollars. The oversight board should be bipartisan and have qualified citizens who have no agenda but the protection of taxpayers and the financial markets. People like: Warren Buffet, who supports my opponent, Governor Romney, who supports me, or Mayor Bloomberg, an independent.

The firms we help need accountability too. We cannot have taxpayers footing the bill for bloated golden parachutes like we see in the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, where the top executives are asking for $2.5 billion in bonuses after they ran the company into the ground. The senior executives of any firm that is bailed out by treasury should not be making more than the highest paid government official.

I would also urge transparency throughout this process. The American people have the right to know which firms will be helped, what that selection will be based on and how much that help will cost. The details of the process and the transaction itself should all be made available online for public scrutiny.

As Congress examines this package, I would encourage all members to set aside the pressures of Washington and Wall Street. As we determine what to do, we need to put our country first and focus on what is best for Main Street. We must help keep people in their home. We must protect American’s savings. And we must keep students with loans in school.

What we need in any reform is accountability for Wall Street, accountability for government, and a commitment to protecting peoples’ homes and life savings and restoring our financial markets.

Times are tough for our economy, and I expect more tough economic news before the election. My commitment to the American people is to fix the Wall Street mess, reform Washington, and most importantly, enact a pro-growth agenda to create jobs for Americans and get this country back on track.

There are a couple of things that we could learn from the Irish in that regard. A commitment to low business taxes and free trade has made it the home of choice for businesses from around Europe and the world, and created a source of well-paid jobs for talented people.

I believe that both those policies are important examples, and if I am elected president, my agenda will include increasing trade between the United States and Ireland, along with successfully completing recent discussions on visas for the benefit of all our citizens.

Finally, let me say that if you look around the world today, it is easy to see problems and challenges almost everywhere. Our country is in the midst of two wars; our economy is in turmoil; a number of regions around the globe are unstable or unfriendly.

But events in other places are inspirational, and that is certainly true of Northern Ireland. Many of those who saw decades of fighting in that proud and beautiful land thought that the day might never come when talking took the place of tanks, and ballots the place of bullets. But that day has dawned in Northern Ireland and we are all – Irish and American alike – better off for it.

When in May of last year the world saw images of a devolved government in Belfast, restored under the stewardship of Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness, it captured a political courage the previous generation could have scarcely imagined.

There remains hard work ahead. It is an honor for the United States to be trusted as an honest broker by both parties to the Good Friday agreement, and if I am elected President, I will continue America’s leadership role. I am committed, as I know the American people are committed, to furthering the bonds of cooperation that have been forged in Northern Ireland’s peace process. As a demonstration of that commitment, I will continue the practice, begun by President Clinton, of appointing a U.S. Special Envoy for Northern Ireland. I know Senator Obama has questioned whether that appointment is needed. I would urge him to reconsider.

If I am elected president, I assure you that there will be no weakening in America’s commitment to peace in Northern Ireland. I’ll maintain the special U.S. envoy for Northern Ireland, and I will welcome peacemakers to the White House.

The people of Northern Ireland want the same things that we Americans want – the opportunity to build a better life for themselves and their children. It is up to leaders of both countries to create the conditions that will let them do so.

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  • Paul3triple

    Penny Pritzker is holding a reception For Ahmadinejad at the grand Hyatt.
    What do you obots say to that? This could be the cannonball that sinks his jewish support.
    Pritzker is obama’s finance chair and possible treasure secratary in an obama admin(BUT WE WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN)
    humanevents.com has the scoop and this needs to be known.

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda OKC

    CHICAGO MACHINES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ0cq4Nytu8

    Latest political add from McCain. About time he talked about who Obama REALLY is

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Why don’t you post this in the story where it belongs? The story about Penny Pritzer that’s on this front page? It has nothing to do with the story I just worked on, and posted. And when you do post it where it belongs, please provide a link so we can see if the story is true.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    This video was posted in the story below.

  • sister of ye

    I could get behind the bailout if it includes confiscating the ill-gotten gains of the companies’ executives and throwing their hinies in jail.

    You know, kinda the spirit of the bankruptcy “reform” bill a few years back that consigned working class people to wage slavery even if their insolvency resulted from medical bills.

    It seems to me that massive incompetence and greed should be at least as disasstrous for the CEOs as cancer is for their employees.

  • jen

    Maybe because when you let trolls like JM08 continuously hijack ALL the threads with any crap they feel like spreading, and you don’t object, readers get the message that all NQ threads are open. Just a guess.

  • Sue

    I listened to McCain’s speech this morning. It was good and once again, he’s right. We do need accountability, we do as American citizens have a right to know where our money is going. There needs to be oversight. I too am afraid of giving this much power and money to one person. I think we need to rethink this bailout the way it’s written, and there are others out there saying the same thing.

  • benny

    I wonder why Obama isn’t taking the lead coming up with a proposal. He wants to be president. All he does is blame Bush, but if he wants to be president, Obama has to come up with some answers. McCain is being pro-active, Obama is basically non-active. Very un-presidential.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    For one thing — and I’m just guessing here — such an enormous aid package to huge corporations will mean that there’ll be no money left for any decent health care proposals, for improving Medicare, for investing in education and the environment, for pouring the billions needed into alternative energy. I hope I’m wrong.

    Part of this bailout law will include raising the statutory ceiling on the national debt (This is how we “afford” it) therefor not affecting other programs or cash flow. Theoretically if the government manages this right that money will be paid back over time. I think you are wrong.

  • Kevin

    Great post
    You post the question

    Does anyone have a clue how he’s going to end up voting on this plan?

    IMHO
    Present

  • BubbaHyde

    I agree, also, there should be a hold on traders and managers profiting from the bailout, seems to me, they sell high, then buy cheap once the companies are bailed out by the government thus ensuring they make millions off the fact that the companies were saved. This should entail maybe freezing the stock prices for these companies and not allowing any movement (don’t lose money, but don’t gain any either) for these stocks associated with the affected companies that are being bailed out.

  • fred

    The Dead Registering To Vote?
    Vote Fraud Experts ACORN Resurrecting Dead in North Carolina
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  • JohninCA

    There is no money. Ten trillion debt, half trillion yearly deficit.

    If we’d had a balanced budget all along, we wouldn’t be paying hundreds of billions each year just for interest on debt, but almost nobody ever alludes to this waste.

    Talk about money for new entitlement programs should be confined to fantasy threads and crack houses.

  • http://tfitz.wordpress.com tfitz

    Yes it is a great idea, the TARP (troubled asset relief program) is three pages long and one of the key phrases is Sec. 8. Review: Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.”

    When you have time listen to today’s program on Diane Reams program on NPR http://wamu.org/programs/dr/ Finacial Rescue Plan moderated by Katy Kay (BBC) with Michael Greenberger, professor, University of Maryland Law School, director, Center for Health and Homeland Security, and former senior regulator, Commodities Futures Trading Commission Alan S. Blinder, Gordon S. Rentschler Memorial Professor of Economics and Public Affairs at Princeton University, co-director of Princeton’s Center for Economic Policy Studies, vice chairman of the Promontory Interfinancial Network Greg Ip, U.S economics editor, The Economist.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    The moderators on this blog have a nearly impossible task of balancing free speech with some sense of order. If you feel a particular commenter is hijacking threads contact Susan or Larry. I try to remember the difficulty involved in moderating a blog and also that I am a guest here.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    Contact Susan or Larry via email that is.

  • Paul3triple

    first because i thought it may be of interest.
    Second i gave the site. Humanevents.com
    Anytime i place a link with all of th Http and so on the post never shows up.
    As for if the story is true, why would i post something false and provide the website where it was?
    For the person below me, i love how troll is the “in” word here.
    I am sure you call everyone in the real world trolls when you dislike their opinions. Do you call your boss a troll?co-workers? friends?
    Family? Why not act like yourself instead of someone else just because you have the liberty of being unknown on the internet.

    Sorry susanUnPC. I did not know it was a big deal to post info like every other person on this site. I know now and will not do it again.

    As for this post, good job. McCain gave an excellent speecha and excellent answers. When he began to speak on immigration and how immigrants are the lifeblood of america it was touching.
    Especially for me a fellow Irish-american(among other nationalitys, such as native american, but i am mostly Irish and norse) whose great-grandparents came here to provide a better life for their family.
    As well as my Grandma who came from Norway.
    America, the greatest experiment in our worlds history,

  • NoTrollZone

    O/T

    Now that Obama camp has decided the race card is again their best card:

    best argument against their stupidity is:

    it’s not that obama’s black. it’s that obama’s green.

  • benny

    I believe that the bail-out is necessary. but there should be very strict governmental oversight.

  • Kal

    I’m glad to see that McC is getting onboard Hillary’s rescue plan that she presented last week.

    The key is to make sure Paulson can’t just dish out the cash for book values of the toxic assets, and then quietly sell them for pennies on the dollar later on, when enough years/decades have passed.

    The taxpayers deserve to get some equity for the equity they are handing over.

    McC looks like he can get it for us, if BO can stay out of the way.

  • Kevin

    a camel is a horse designed by a committee

  • Obama: An Ego you can Believe in!

    Just for fun, if you’re able to, go to Jake Tapper’s website and read everybody giving it to him re his post on why Sara Palin isn’t doing interviews. They are handing Jake his ass on a platter. Feel free to express your concerns as well.

    Jake Tapper/ Political Punch…why won’t Sara talk to us! Waaaa!

  • Leisa

    Obama is politicizing these events to paint McCain and all republicans responsible. The problem is, BOTH parties are to blame.

    When the truth comes out, and it will, I hope we all get behind McCain’s vision and start doing what is right for our country, not the political parties that have been corrupted by corporations.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    There is no money.

    That is not true. As I said there is borrowed money available. And just to be clear I am not personally for more programs necessarily. I was answering her concern. As to your concern we are in agreement. The budget must be balanced.

    new entitlement programs

    Was Susan calling for new programs? Looks like it but if the government shifts priorities and pays for the new programs eliminating other spending I would not necessarily oppose a new program if there was a zero net gain cost to the taxpayer. And I said not necessarily oppose. Ideally the government should be the bare minimum needed to deal with issues the state and local governments are incapable of dealing with such as national defense.

  • Betty

    I just called my representative Betty McCullum and ask if she had access to the full text of the bill after they hem’d and haw’ed, they finally said yes she does have a copy. I asked that she put it up on her web site because I would like to review it and give it to my friends to review before it comes to a vote.

    He said he would pass my request along. I told him I would call back every few hours till I see it up.

  • wodiej

    WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THEY PUT THAT IN THERE? For crying out loud…that sounds like more corruption and fraud in the making. Well I’ll tell you why…because the powers that be want to make sure all of those fucking CEO’s get their greedy little paws on bonuses and what not and we the taxpayers will be none the wiser.

    I am just wondering again…when Obama has basically voted present on this economic crisis, how ANYONE in the world could think he is even REMOTELY qualified to be President??

    This is an excellent discussion by McCain and an equally excellent idea. It’s called reform. Sounds to me like the government wants to bail all of their corrupt asses out with no preconditions.

    No stock trading, no bonuses, no money of any kind and how about some jail time to go along w it.

  • Objective analysis

    Accountability. Now it is amazing that McCain who by disability can’t use the internet believes that the American people should see the proposals on the internet and contact their congress representatives themselves to decide.

    I think McCain-Palin is looking better every day.

  • Seattle Moss

    Paul said..
    “As for this post, good job. McCain gave an excellent speecha and excellent answers. When he began to speak on immigration and how immigrants are the lifeblood of america it was touching.”

    My bitter Irish German roots are from the hills of central Pa.
    My father used to talk about how one leg was shorter than the other because of all the hills.

    McCain has always been humane and compassionate about immigration unlike Romney, Trancredo and Limbaugh. That’s one of the reasons he is the nominee
    For Obama to link McCain to Limbaugh on immigration is a grave mistake for Obama
    McCain is now angry and will use his POW smarts against Obama this week to great affect.

  • lark

    My view is that both candidates should stay out of criticizing the bail out plan. They have no business interfering with the Administration in these matter, since the Administration is the one elected to do our bid.

    Neutral comments like McCain suggesting the proposal be placed in the internet are good, and suggesting that we call our reps is good too. But the candidates should stay away from making proposals.

    I also think that all of the problems we presently have as enunciated by the generic Dem platform can be best solve without any expenditures of new money. Actually less money may be better. But the solutions would not read as increases in government interventions.

    So, I do give my vote to JMcCain so that he can put Sarah Palin in charge of fixing America. Go bless Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin for VP.

  • Shiloh

    Obama seems flummoxed about what to do on this. He is afraid to turn one way or the other. Just what you want to see in a world leader eh?

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    Way to go Betty! I have a feeling they won’t follow through though.

  • iVet

    Interesting article on the financial crisis:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

    The author is reportedly already getting death threats. Netroots in action.

  • Ani

    I personally do object to threads being hijacked — but what it the solution? We cannot monitor every single comment that comes in here and still have time to research and write all the stories up.

    Furthermore, we don’t want to practice censorship and not allow people of opposing viewpoints to comment. Obviously, certain conduct is not tolerated and ets banned.

    Truly, if you have suggestion for this, let us know.

    I would also like it if people stayed with the story on the board and didn’t change the subject.

  • Eastan McNeal

    I heard Paulsen say yesterday that the core of the plan will be the U.S. government acting like a high risk home loan bank. They would buy the “bad” notes and hopefully work with the borrowers to try to eventually get all of our trillion back.

    The scary part is what will they do with those who simply can’t pay. We our government eventually have to become the evil bankers that throw people out of their homes? Or will we just collect from those who can pay a little at a time and let the others slide.

    I don’t know how a plan like this can fit on 3 pages. The contingencies alone would make up volumes because any plan without a backup is not a plan.

    I can’t wait to see the final draft.

  • Eastan McNeal

    WILL our government..

  • lark

    Let him post and if you don’t like it ignore it.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    Accountability.

    Agreed.

    can’t use the internet

    I don’t think that is accurate. He has limitations but I can’t imagine he is 100% unable to use the net. I remember reading here on NQ how McCain would read his emails late at night with his site.

    I think McCain-Palin is looking better every day.

    Not my first choice but much better than Obiden. Hillary ’12!

  • McHope

    McCain’s speech is impressive. The more I hear of his ideas and values, the more I like him. It’s a relief after never even considering a Republican in my life.
    I am particularly impressed with his dedication to transparency. Putting the proposal online is an amazing opportunity to redefine the way things are done in Washington. It’s time the decisions were put back in the hands of the people. The people who work for, fight for and pay for this country. Gov Palin put the state budget online for it’s citizens to see. The public cannot make informed decisions without the information.
    Excellent ideas.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    I remember reading here on NQ how McCain would read his emails late at night with his WIFE.

  • Denise

    Here is the link then you have to click on the Rush story link.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28643

  • Paul3triple

    I am also from Central PA myself. Smack in the middle of PA actually.

  • Obama: An Ego you can Believe in!

    Stinking Emmy’s: An award goes to them for the lowest ratings in their history. Ha ha! Self-fellating fools. The backlash continues:

    Emmy’s garner lowest ratings ever in Emmy History

  • Perry Logan

    Another period of Republican governance…another multibillion-dollar bail-out. ;-)

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    To be fair Obama hinted at something like what McCain was talking about on 60 mins. However, it far from a policy decision. More along the lines of generalities which speak to me that he has no idea what the hell is going on and is trying to hide that.

    I don’t think McCain knows much either, but at least he’s willing to make a damn decision. And he doesn’t take days to figure stuff out in a crisis.

  • RJ

    McCain is a leader!!!

    McCain/Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  • Kal

    PUMA!!!

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    Can’t just blame the republicans on this, the democrats have played their part over the years.

    Don’t buy into the “them” vs “us” argument. People are so busy blaming each other, they forget that they left us out in the cold.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    Obama is waiting for his cohorts to study Hillary’s proposal and then he will co-opt it as his own.

  • Chicago Joe

    If you read the whole story, in the final paragraph, Rush says there is no evidence Pritzker knew of this reception.

  • McHope

    I thought McCain gave his proposals before Hillary spoke. It was covered on NQ, I remember thinking that their plans were similar and that BO had for days issued statements about why he could not develop a plan. Seems Hillary was right, she and McCain bring a lifetime of experience while Obama brings a speech. Funny how that statement becomes more true and relevant as events unfold.

  • lark

    I believe there are two ways to dispose of the assets. One, give them to HUD. Which would infuriate everyone. Or, action them to the highest bidder. Again the highest bidder would be those with the most money and that would infuriate everyone.

  • Judy L. NC

    Ditto! I want bloodshed.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    I refuse to watch a bunch of inflated egos give accolades to each other.

  • McHope

    Great job, Betty. Please keep us posted on the response.

  • yttik

    Three pages?? Oh brother. Does it just say in big bold letters, “put ‘em up, this is hold up?”

    I know where McCain and Hillary whre in 2005. McCain was trying to cosponser the FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005. Dems let it die in committee. Obama? Well at that time he was busy telling us all how he wasn’t yet qualified to run for president.

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    This is the best possible solution. That way at least some people remain in their homes.

    I think most people know that many of these mortgages come from people who just couldn’t afford it. The entire thing needs to be regulated and guidelines set up to protect the people who need protection and throw the rest of them out

    If they are upfront about the realities of what’s being proposed, it shouldn’t cause to many problems. Any advocacy groups will come under immediate public scrutiny and will need to have a SOLID CASE of abuse before they try to push a bunch of junk lawsuits about “discrimination”.

    We want to “level” the playing field not dig a damn hole.

  • cynic

    But does Barack Obama really think his lofty proposals — which will require billions upon billions — will have the funding needed if he signs on for this massive bail-out? Does anyone have a clue how he’s going to end up voting on this plan? If he has any alternative proposals and/or amendments?

    Right. And exactly how does John McCain plan to pay for those enormous tax cuts he proposes to give to everyone making $2.87 million on up? I never heard his explanation, even before a plan for an $800 million Wall Street bail-out came up. John’s tax cut plan would give people making $2.87 million and up–the top 1%–an average tax cut of $269,364 per year. McCain’s plan results in a greater loss of federal tax revenues than Obama’s, while at the same time giving far lower tax cuts to the middle class.

    Obama has ventured no bail out proposal himself yet, stating he wants to see the specifics of what the Bush administration proposes first. He’s only provided some guidelines about what he believes a plan should include. I think this restraint is commendable. McCain shouldn’t be proposing his own alternative policy until he sees what the people currently running the show come up with. Doing so is election year pretense. McCain also annoyed me by prematurely interjecting his own policy thoughts into the Georgia/Russia situation, when it was the place of the acting president to be making official statements for the nation.

    Concerning that $800 billion bail out–I’m damn curious just where the Bush administration plans to show that in the budget. They’ve already got a $482 billion dollar deficit built into their request for 2009.

  • Liz B

    qseeeeeefffhhfrryeheeehheee

  • Denise

    I found this article posted on the drudge report blaming dems for the wall st fallout.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    Can’t just blame the republicans on this, the democrats have played their part over the years.

    Correct you are. We are much better off when centrists govern no matter the party.

  • untilthelastdogdies

    Hillary is scheduled to speak soon at 1:50 p.m. ET regarding bail-out (per CNBC).

    More water-carrying.

    More hindsight is 20/20.

    (well, for those that were errr “bamboozled”!!

  • lark

    Don’t forget the influence of obstructionism.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

    [W]hat happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

    [B]ut the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

    [B]ut we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.

  • kgirl1028

    We should change country’s name to Missouri the truth about obama was there all along, but in america we have to be shown.

  • wodiej

    Perhaps if the Democratic controlled Congress had got off their lazy asses to do something about regulation, there wouldn’t be a mess.

  • Judy L. NC

    Yikes! Tough neighborhood you live in.

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    Honestly I didn’t even know the Emmys had happened.

  • yttik

    Here’s a flash back to September 2003, SusanUPC, where Bush and congress were trying to figure out what to do with Fannie Mae:

    “..Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

    ”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

    Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

    ”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

  • McHope

    Here. Here.
    We should pass your comments on to all of our state legislators.
    Too bad mine is that present voting, incompetent with a funny name. And did I mention? He’s black. No wait..he did.
    But I digress. It is far past time these ELECTED officials do as the people say and not as they please.
    Freeze their assets, hold them accountable and let the public see who they are.

  • lark

    They may sell the State of Hawaii to China. What do you think?

  • John Smith

    Yea, I wonder why MSM is really OMSM . I have not seen anything more disturbing since the Iraq war. They failed the public then and they are failing the public now. But people are smarter now and they know not to trust anything the MSM says anymore.

  • Seattle Moss

    That’s a keeper!
    LOL

  • Duras

    Hey Perry, that’s BS. It as Republicans, including John McCain, who tried to legislate greater regulation and greater oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac years ago. They were blocked at every turn by Democrats.

    Granted, President Bush was, once again, fiddling while Rome burned. He could have called attention to this pending trainwreck and publicly held the Dems’ feet to the fire. And there were certainly plenty of Republican lawmakers who looked the other way while the storm clouds were gathering.

    But as Larry pointed out in his column yesterday, the home loan industry and the mortgage-backed securities market have long been protected constituencies of the Democratic Party. The standard rallying cry was “We want every American to be able to own a home.” So, they put pressure on lenders to dramatically lower lending standards and gave them political protection while they did so in return for campaign contributions. Barack Obama was one of the prime beneficiaries of their largesse.

    So, which presidential candidate has the most credibility when they talk about taking on the incestuous culture of corruption in DC and on Wall Street? It ain’t Barack Obama.

  • Liz B

    I just came in and found my four year old blogging to you guys! :)

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    I am very leery of Paulson having such control. Don’t forget that he came to the treasury dept. via Goldman Sachs. His decisions there had a lot to do with what is happening now.

    John McCain is absolutely right on the button on this matter. This calls for a bi-partisan oversight committee with someone with a proven track record at the helm. I can think of no one better suited to the position than Mitt Romney. This is why he was tapped for the Olympics when they were in trouble. He has improved every situation that he has been in and is much mor knowledgeable than Paulson. And he doesn’t carry with the tainted baggage of Goldman Sachs that Paulson does.

  • Perry Logan

    I thought it was some Freepers visiting.

  • http://Jewel Jewel

    I don’t know how to do links but I am submitting the second half of an article from Bloomberg that’s on Drudge relating these current problems to the Democrats who were receiving money from the brokerage houses and who voted against taking precautions to avoid this.

    It is easy to identify the historical turning point that marked the beginning of the end.

    Back in 2005, Fannie and Freddie were, after years of dominating Washington, on the ropes. They were enmeshed in accounting scandals that led to turnover at the top. At one telling moment in late 2004, captured in an article by my American Enterprise Institute colleague Peter Wallison, the Securities and Exchange Comiission’s chief accountant told disgraced Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines that Fannie’s position on the relevant accounting issue was not even “on the page” of allowable interpretations.

    Then legislative momentum emerged for an attempt to create a “world-class regulator” that would oversee the pair more like banks, imposing strict requirements on their ability to take excessive risks. Politicians who previously had associated themselves proudly with the two accounting miscreants were less eager to be associated with them. The time was ripe.

    Greenspan’s Warning

    The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,” he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.”

    What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

    Different World

    If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.

    But the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

    That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.”

    Mounds of Materials

    Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.

    But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.

    Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.

    Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix.

    There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.

    Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that’s worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.

  • IronMan

    Obama’s speech in Wisconsin now is really tanking. LOL! He’s a comedian up there behind the podium this morning. Cracking jokes and personal attacks that seem to be falling flat. The his teleprompter went out. He looked like a deer in headlights when that happened. LOL!

    Obama is stumblng and bumbling in this speech.

    He really has no clue what to do.

    OOPS… Obama gaffe alert just now ion the speech:

    “I’ve spent my career taking on lobbysists and their money.”

    Indeed, Obama has been in bed with the lobbyists and has taken their money. He’s been taking on lobbyists and their money for years, and putting them to work in his campaign and the money in his pocket.

    Now Obama trying to take credit for McCain-Feingold and McCain’s exposing corruption in Washington.

    OMG! Obama is clueless!

  • Duras

    Cynic, both McCain and Obama were spoecifically asked their opinions on the Russia/Georgia situation. Offering up an opinion is quite a different matter from actively trying to influence negotiations between Iraq and the current US government, which is what Barack Obama did when he asked the Iraqis to delay signing a new Status of Forces agreement until after a new administration (presumably his) was in office.

  • lark

    That would get support. I don’t agree, but I can see how that would make sense.

  • portia9
  • McHope

    LOL
    They don’t seem to want to understand that the public does NOT want Oprah passing her racism and her unqualified candidate on us. Hollywood needs to stop believing their own hype. No one cares what they think. They are ENTERTAINERS, used to amuse usity like jesters or circus acts. They do not have credibilty, especially when their moral (and lack thereof) is displayed regularly for all to see. Foolish, foolish people.

  • http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/ AdrianS

    We must be sure that all of this bail-out talk is not lip-service. Have the feds decided already that it is going to do the bail-out; despite the overwhelming opposition to it.

    The Dems have been dragging their feet over new sources of energy and playing up the problems in the economy, which are not a recession — unless you want to change the definition of recession. But anything is possible.

    I don’t believe that throwing good money ($700 Billion) after bad will solve anything. The US government should certainly NOT be in the gambling business — or in business at all.

    Is there some criminal liability here? Cooking the books in law enforcement speak is an illegal activity — is Congress calloused to the corruption because of their own corruption or involvement?

    And, why are all of the financial institutions having problems all at the same time. Was this choreographed or maybe orchestrated to hold-up Americans with threats of no more loan money if there’s no bailout.

    Let’s not over react with a bit of socialism or even fascism. Our democracy works best if left alone — let those badly administered enterprises fail. It will be cold day in hell when the government comes to the aid of a failing small business.

  • John Smith

    I think anybody who profited from this disaster should be wiped out financially. All their assets should be confiscated and they should be thrown out on the street. In addition they should take a portion of their their wages for the rest of their lives. I would not spend a penny of tax payer money putting them in jail.

  • Paul3triple

    to bad obamalama-ding-dong was nay a senator when McCain-Fiengold wa passed.
    he was still in Il state legislator voting present and working to deny abortion survivors simple human rights that any living human is allowed.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    Woohoo, go for it McCain. Transparency as you’ve been advocating AND AS SARA PALIN HAS HERSELF DONE.

  • NomNomNom

    Getting behind this bailout is a lot like getting behind Cheney on a duckhunt.
    Just saying

  • cynic

    None of it could have happened without republican deregulation of finance, investment, and banking.; specifically, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. Most democrats voted against this legislation, but it was passed by the republican majority.

    The Commodity Futures Modernization Act gave us the Enron Loophole (7 U.S.C. §2(h)(3) and (g)), drafted by Enron lobbyists working directly with McCain’s financial advisor, Senator Phil Gramm.

    On several occasions from 2000 through 2006, Democratic Legislators introduced bills to close the loophole. Their efforts were unsuccessful due to Republican control of the House and Senate.

    Those are the facts. Look ‘em up for yourself. You can’t blame the democrats for what the republicans did without flat-out lying about it.

  • Kevin

    It’s not an original from me, I’ve heard it before and it seemed apt.

    My great concern is that once our congresscritters, their staffs and their favorite lobbyists are done this will be a way for the taxpayers to subsidise the big players for their losses and we’ll get a good old fashioned screwing.

    We need congressional term limits, legistlation that no one who has worked in the federal gov’t. IN ANY CAPACITY, can register as a lobbyist for 5 years, and a balanced budget ammendment.

    This makes me want to vote for Ron Paul.

    This is just typical DC blather.
    I would like to see the documentation myself.

  • tek

    He doesn’t have a proposal because he doesn’t understand the issue. Also, Obama is terrified of saying anything that might offend some person who then will not vote for him. He’s bent on being all things to all people. Obama NEVER talks about specifics. He waits to see which way the wind is blowing and decides what people want to hear. The debates should interesting if 60 minutes was any indication.

  • benny

    Gallup again has Obama up by 4, while rasmussen is has Obama up by 1. wonder when gallup is gonna stabilise.

  • snosandy

    I watched the repeat of Sean Hannity’s interview with Sarah Palin instead.

  • tek

    McCain said last night that if the people bail these companies out then as soon as these companies start posting profits that money has to go back to the taxpayers. Sounds right to me. Didn’t hear Obama say anything like that.

  • tek

    Oh, so that’s the expanded powers the Bush admin is seeking. I kept wondering because no one mentioned it.

  • Paul3triple

    i think as McCain said earlier that CEO’s benefiting should have to give the money back.
    How can our government support bailing out a bank with trillions when CEO’s are walking away with enormous sums of money.
    McCain is right on this bailout business. He stumbeld from bad press last week but he is on the side of the poeple with this.
    McCain is a Roosevelt republican. He will take on corporate interests and already has numerous occasions.
    His publica finance bill pissed off EVERYONE. He took powerborkers out of our campaigns and it took him years to do it.
    He fought tooth and nail never giving up and ignoring his party who whined about the bill.
    We need that determination in the white house.
    We need a guy who will not stand bye while our tax dollars get raped and taken for stuff we do not want nor do we ask for.
    Sara Palin says it best,”it is time we put government back on the side of the poeple.”
    John McCain,”government should stand on your side. Not in your way.”

    My thoughts exactly and the McCain/Palin ticket have a history fo doing so. Obama has a history of corruption and dirty deals and dirty associates.

  • NoTrollZone

    Way to go Betty!!!!

    And once the plan is posted, Obama will have to have an opinion. won’t he? I mean, wasn’t he waiting for the particulars to be able to think for himself?

  • tek

    Who is Obama’s biggest corporate contributor? Goldman Sachs.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease” Opampers

    On several occasions from 2000 through 2006, Democratic Legislators introduced bills to close the loophole. Their efforts were unsuccessful due to Republican control of the House and Senate.

    Using your argument of who controls the House and Senate whom do you blame when the Dems took over control in 2006?

  • wodiej

    thank you for posting…knowledge is power. I’ll be passing this on.

  • Tuppence 411

    And the Dems want to throw in bad credit card debit, bad car loans, etc….. WTF!

  • Skiron

    You have to be joking if you think transparency is going to be a hallmark of a McCain/Palin administration.

    Look at Palin. She’s more of a Cheney than Cheney, with her habit of using private email for public business, and her stonewalling on the troopergate investigation after promising she would cooperate.

  • kgirl1028

    putting you money where your mouth is an important thing. especially when your running mate is nothing that he says he is.

  • snosandy

    Funny! Hey Liz, wasn’t it you that had the Today show visit last week? How did it go? Has the piece aired (I slept in Friday morning).

  • NoTrollZone

    I’m worried that the dems have pelosi and reid there to f things up royally. the repubs have bush. how the hell is anyone supposed to have any confidence in either side?

    I trust Pelosi and Reid to put politics way before common sense. They showed us the waste products they were made of during the primaries.
    Do they have any right to negotiate and strike a pose and pretend that they give a damn about this country or any class?

  • tek

    This is what my husband said after 60 Minutes. It’s hard to think about voting Republican, but McCain was way out ahead of Obama, saying the things a president needs to be saying.

  • Urban Hillbilly

    Ani, My suggestion would be to run an “Open Thread” throughout the day.

    I, especially, like to hear from people how they think voters are thinking in their specific parts of the country. There is never a place for this. Also, there is never a place to post interesting news or opinion articles of the day.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Well, I may not agree with McCain on those wedge issues that Congress has more control over than the Executive branch, but I do agree with McCain that the American people should not be sold a pig in a poke.

    Transparency is a good thing, and we need MORE of it.

  • kgirl1028

    correction that was not supposed to be running mate it was supposed to be opponent. On that note i’m going to bed. night all.

  • beebop

    Thank you for this article Denise. Simple to understand. Concise. Everyone should read it.

  • tek

    How do they think those things can be covered?

    And what is “bad credit card debt?” Isn’t it all bad? (credit cards, I mean)

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    the end of this week. :)

  • tek

    Don’t be insane. You can’t just let the country fall into another Great Depression, and like it or not, the powers that be can bring that on if they want.

  • NoTrollZone

    Obama is a nightmare. If this is what he does with a domestic crisis (now spinning into an international situation), what do you imagine would be his response to a national security crisis. what the hell would he do about Pakistan
    -go bomb ‘em like he said, or try to get massive quantities of kool-aide across their border?

    This guy is an unqualified idiot nightmare.

    He sits on the sidelines waiting to find out what will benefit him. He doesn’t care one iota about America or her citizens.

  • Newly Independent

    Many of the Democrats wern’t going to. Because they’re part of the huge corruption.

    People need to check out two documentaries that foretold these mortgage and banking crises two years ago:

    “In Debt We Trust” (which deals with both the credit card & mortgage crises)

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9016886482738598023

    and,

    “Maxed Out”

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxed_Out

    (Forgive me – I don’t know how to use the ‘link’ button.)

  • nobamaever09

    if You are talking about McCain that You are wrong about this man!!! He said how is, and He play no games. We dont agree on all McCAIN ideas, but at list we can trust Him much more that Obama and Biden together.
    Obamas above anyone , serving us with most dirties politics I ever saw, and attacking McCain for lack of computer knowladge is just proving ignorance to all disable people witch McCain belong to!!! His wife is working with McCain on!!!It is a ugly ignorance and disrespect to all of US!!!
    Attaciking in adds or verbaly ; middle clas, woman,old, retire people us showing who Obama truly is. And Hillary and Pali , Geraldine are living proof of Obamas dirties politics in American History!!! Just look at those, who are advising Obama, corupted and l those who are directly involve in economic disaster. Look at Michelle, disrespect 9/11 victim, using a such stupid excuse Her kids, like Her Mother never watch them before., but She has a lot of time to make speaches for Obama and prise Mr.Wright, hateful Mentor !!! If I missunderstood I am still standing behind what I wrote above!!! I trust McCain, but will never trust Obama or especjaly Michelle!!!

  • Eastan McNeal

    I want other people to read the bailout draft

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/business/21draftcnd.html

    The way I see it. If a Saudi company with a headquarters in NY loaned $100 million to a factory in Korea, then they could, if the loan went south, sell the paper to us. Right? No provision stating that this is only for property IN THE USA? And nothing saying that the property must be held by Americans, legal residents of the US or domestic corporations?

    I smell something. This thing needs a fixin’ big time.

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    WHY CAN’T I FIND THIS 411 ON THEIR HOMEPAGE?

  • NoTrollZone

    wow.. sorry I missed obama without a teleprompter. sounds quite obama-ish.

    They keep wanking on about Obama not being in bed with lobbyists. One name that comes to mind readily is Daschle. Washington lobbyist big time.
    One of the main pukes who forced obama on us in the primaries.

  • NoTrollZone

    Now that’s f-ing irritating.

  • nationalert

    I have been following this election closely for 9 months. I hope the Republicans have also, because the Republicans are at great risk of having done to them what was done to Hillary. Despite her clear superiority, both in character and experience, they ulitimately humiliated her publicly by denying her, her rightful place as the nominee.

    I say this because of the myriad of criminal activities that the Hillary faction of the democratic party witnessed and was helpless to overthrow. Just to name a few: voter fraud, internet hacking, silencing of the media, assigning Hillary’s Michigan votes to Obama, failing to provide the public any proper documentation of Obama’s citizenship, place of birth, medical, senate, academic records , and clearing of criminal records. There are many, many others. But in short overthrowing the will of the majority of the Democrats, not in fair play, but by aggressive, hostile and criminal tactics.

    The Republicans cannot repeat Hillary’s fate. There are 2 races occuring simultaneously. The first is that which is contrived for the public to witness. This is the conventional battle that is carried out between the candidates, where policies are disputed, debates occur, etc.

    The second battle that the public is not privy too, and controlled by media, are the subversive tactics, admittedly performed by both camps. My guess is that the Obama camp is far more deadly, and will bring down the nation if left to fester too much longer unabated.

  • Paul3triple

    the thing with wedge issues though is McCain does not talk about them. He is worried about our country future to much to argue over social issues.
    Which in my opinion are a matter of opinion.
    Social issues are just an opinion. Palin herself who is trashed daily by far left loons has said these are my beliefs but i do not wear them on my sleave and i do not force them on poeple.
    She as an elected official of 13 years has never tryed to push a social agenda through. She psuhes a reform agenda with good government.
    The same can be said for mccain.
    i am pro-life but i certainly DO NOT believe abortion should be outlawed. It would be disasterous.
    Both parties use these issues as rallying cries to the base.
    However this election the only side pushing social issue is dems. Abortion is being used to hold women hostage in the democratic party and i am glad women see it for what it is.
    The laws on the books will stay and should.
    I think there should be certain restrictions and limits to the amount of abortions a women can have.
    who cares though. that is my opinion and belief. You see what i am saying?

  • cynic

    McCain has been meddling in Georgian affairs for a long time now. Until this past March, his top foreign affairs advisor Randy Scheunemann was a registered paid agent for the Republic of Georgia. He’s been so for years. He’s lobbyied to get Georgia into NATO, unmindful of how seriously that threatens the Russians, and the degree to which it increased tensions along the border. Georgia apparently had a false sense of security about Russia when it crossed the South Ossetian border and began shooting the place up. Where do you suppose that came from?

    Randy Scheunemann is also Sarah Palin’s foreign policy coach–which explains her own comments regarding NATO, Georgia, and Russia. (That certainly wasn’t a line of thinking she came up with herself, talking with her husband over the dinner table.)

    Compared with McCain’s involvement in Georgia, Obama’s private comments in Iraq were positively circumspect.

  • Dawnelle

    I agree. Not all of us are interested in the same things but like to keep up with breaking news and chatter! Open threads are good for that.

    Keeping the Original titled threads to topic at hand.

    Worked for years on the DNC blog.

    Of course then rarely did the titled threads get much chatter. Mostly just READ and agreed or disagreed and left back to open thread.

  • beebop

    Paulsen is NOT THE GUY who created this mess. He’s the doctor. When you pass a foreclosure sign, that’s the person who is at fault. NOT PAULSEN.

  • mrduffin

    It is to the point not it does not matter what obama says. The reason I say that even if he has the greatest mind in the world he still can not be trusted to lead America properly. He has shown his allegance to crooks, terrorist, and racist who hate America so there is no way he can ever be trusted in the White House.

  • NoTrollZone

    New Obama slogan: “change is all you’re gonna have left”

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    How is Penny Pritzker not related to this thread? Obtuse, yes, but she is currently relevant to Obama’s non-existent plan. She is also a minion for the larger plan apparently. Weaken the economy and take-over…

    The internet idea is an excellent one by McCain. It is an attempt to make the government accountable to the people so that the likes of Obama and Pritzker don’t have so much power.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    This needs to go viral:

    SB 190, co-sponsored by John McCain was a bill to address the regulation of secondary mortgage market enterprises, and for other purposes.

    With the financial sector in turmoil today, the media and the politicians have started throwing around blame with the same recklessness as lenders threw around credit to create the problem. Politically, the pertinent question is this: Which candidate foresaw the credit crisis and tried to do something about it? As it turns out, John McCain did — and partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending three years ago, after an attempt by the Bush administration died in Congress two years earlier. McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006

    Hot Air » Blog Archive » McCain’s attempt to fix Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac in 2005; Update: Obama can’t get AIG right

    Here is a copy of the bill itself, introduced by Chuck Hagel in cosponsored by John McCain, Elizabeth Dole, and John Sununu:
    Search Results – THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    McCain’s specific comments, on May 25, 2006:

    Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.

    The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.

    The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.

    For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

    I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

    I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

    GovTrack: Senate Record: FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM… (109-s20060525-16)

    And lastly, this article about Frank Raines, in July 2008:

    In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters…When Daniel H. Mudd stepped in to succeed Raines after his ouster, Mudd promised a House committee that the days “of arrogant, defiant, ‘my way’ Fannie Mae” would end. Congress has recently moved forward on legislation that would create stronger federal oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    On the Outside Now, Watching Fannie Falter – washingtonpost.com

  • beebop

    the Democrats wanted to add bailouts for individuals and it wasn’t going to happen. If they push for this, they do so at their own peril.

    What their won’t be are those tax cuts zeromama talks about and increased spending. They put unqualified people in homes instead. Karma comes back to bite the hands that had the most to lose.

  • wodiej

    agreed

  • beebop

    Maybe he can arrange not to go back and vote at all.

  • Lorey

    Don’t believe Gallup polls. Obama ahead by 4, yeah in your dreams….

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  • wodiej

    It is quite obvious to the rational that McCain is the one who wanted something done about this 2 years ago. It’s called leadership and reform.

  • Dawnelle

    NOTE TO MC CAIN/PALIN CAMP

    Early voting has begun
    if you truly have that SHOCKING tape
    BEST to get it out BEFORE it’s too late for some
    of these people to change their minds!!

    I’m not even a strategist and can see how THAT would be a big mistake.

    Got to know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to walk away and when to run, right??? (ala Kenny)

    how about knowing when to SHOW them!

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Obama siding with the Democrtic majority, voted against this reform. At the same time, Obama was raking in $166,000 in campaign donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. No one except Chris Dodd accepted more donations from Fannie and Freddie than Obama.

  • Irish1139

    Bloomberg article re crisis

    How can we get this article to the American people? Everyone needs to read it and comment. I am sure the democrats will disagree but I would like to hear their side of this story. If they can’t disagree, they need to own up to their mistake.

  • Newly Independent

    Three pages?? Oh brother. Does it just say in big bold letters, “put ‘em up, this is hold up?”

    LMAO!!!

    Yep – the taxpayers are being ROBBED!

  • Newly Independent

    Typical of an Obamabrat!

    You ask about or question Obama’s stance on anything, and they can’t give you a straight answer nor a good one.

    Instead, they counter with something along the lines of this:

    And exactly how does John McCain….

  • Dawnelle

    except I can see it both ways

    Camels keep going and going and convert their fat to water if they have to but are mean stubborn things.

    Horses otoh are loyal & fast (but mui high maintenance)

  • beebop

    The people who created this issue have given him financial backing. It is there to see. How is he going to deny it?

  • wodiej

    I agree w you on this. Abortion should remain legal but it should not be used as a form of birth control. Girls under 18 should have to have parental consent. There should be a database that keeps track so the same woman can’t keep going to get an abortion whenever she decided to have unprotected sex. And underage girls should have to take some type of class about birth control and safe sex.

  • cynic

    The elections were in late 2006. The democrats didn’t “take over” until the beginning of 2007.

    They’ve had a majority in the House for only 21 months. In the Senate they still don’t, technically. There are 49 democratic senators.

    You may recall that for most of 2007 the new House majority was doing battle over the budget with George W. Bush and the republican minority, trying unsuccessfully to set some limits to our stay in Iraq. Their efforts were frustrated by Bush’s strategy of playing political chicken with troop funding.

  • beebop

    Please don’t open your pie hole just to say something stupid. Come back when you can add something, okay? Troopergate? Please. Grow f’ing up already.

  • AnnieO

    I’m no economist, and I know this is purely an emotional response (so don’t beat me up), but I’m bothered by the govt investing in irresponsible people and corporations. I wish the govt would invest in those of us who do pay our bills on time but have been hit hard by the economy with a little mortgage relief. At least we’re good for it.

  • Dawnelle

    sorry did you say Mitt Romney and bi-partisan in the same breath?

    ok well I don’t see it quite the same way

    aren’t there any Independents or Libs or Greens around in the Houze??? We need TRUE bi-partisan efforts going on ………… or at least the effort!

    Another reason I like Sarah. (and John)

  • jwrjr

    To get back to the original subject of this thread: letting the voters know what is going o, – what a quaint concept. When I saw the rush to get this bailout passed, my first thought was “what are bush et. al. trying to sneak past us?”

  • beebop

    The three top beneficiaries of the Fannie Mae hand outs were Democrats you sorry sack of disinformation … Dodd, 0mama and Kerry … or the Larry, Curly and DOH! of the Democratic party.

  • joe bob

    Yeah, he should immediately come out and start saying things, instead of actually thinking with his team of experts (heck even mcCain on 60 minutes said Buffet should be on of the first people he would ask, you know, an Obama economic guy) on the best course from here…Yeah, kneejerk reactions always solve these problems…Seriously, do you think before typing or is it all meaningless garbage?

  • jwrjr

    “on,” not “o,”. (sigh).

  • beebop

    oh no, sorry.

    Dodd wouldn’t let the regulations come out of Committee …. bzzzzzzt. You lose.

  • Tuppence 411

    I am not trying to be obtuse cynic, but I am trying to understand your logic. All experts agree, the crisis is directly related the housing mess- sub-prime mortgages and their toxic financial instruments – UNREGULATED collateralized debt oblications (CDO’s) and sliced and diced mortgage-backed securities (MBS). With or without Gramm- Leach- Bliley, this bad paper would be illiquid. Gramm-Leach- Bliley lifted the prohibition against commerical banks and investments banks from consolidating. Gramm- Leach allowed Citibank, Bank of America, Chase JP Morgan, etc… to offer banking, investments, insurance. So what does that have to do with all the bad mortgage paper strangling our economy? Either I am missing something or you are. I suspect you just like throwing Phil Gramm’s name into the mix.

  • Newly Independent

    LOL!!

  • Kevin

    I couldn’t agree more. A few month’s back there was a foreclosure prevention effort in one of the Boston neighborhoods. The usual hue and cry over this poor mother being forced out into the streets with her kids. The protest worked.
    Then more information came out, she was a real estate agent, and should have known better being a “professional” working in the real estate industry and sure as hell should have known about an ARM. The house was a multi-family that she was letting family live in for free. It’s just one example of how a lot of people got into houses they couldn’t afford. I have yet to encounter a mortgage broker forcing people into loans. They don’t hold guns to people’s heads and make them sign, there is a lot of individual irresponsibility to this.
    Fannie and Freddie were culpable, the mortgage companies were culpable. Tax cuts will be off the table.

  • beebop

    Do they throw in the 0mama family or just grams?

  • AliasJohnDoe

    Northeast PA here. Saw McCain in Scranton today.

  • Irish1139

    You know what is scary? A trillion dollars will be given to the Secretary of the Treasury with no oversight. In six weeks the new president will have to appoint a new Secretary of the Treasury.

    Isn’t Obama suppose to appoint Penny Pritker as his Secretary of the Treasury. We cannot allow Obama to win this election. There is something really sinister going on with him and his cohorts and this whole financial crisis.

    Can’t you just feel it. Doesn’t anyone have any intuition about this idiot. I sure do.

  • beebop

    Made more sense than freedom fighter …

  • Tuppence 411

    This is from an AP article on Yahoo right now. Sorry I don’t know how to link here. This is Dodd’s latest proposal:
    The proposal by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman, gives the government broad power to buy up virtually any kind of bad asset — including credit card debt or car loans — from any financial institution in the U.S. or abroad in order to stabilize markets.

  • Docelder

    Same here, we are rewarding irresponsible behavior as a valid model of business. I am not sure the cost of letting the market fix itself isn’t less in the long run. Granted, it will not be pretty, but neither will the bailout. The main problem here was Fannie and Freddie could get money cheaper than the rest of the banks… so instead of offering good customers cheaper loans… they resold the other banks paper using their competitive rate advantage as a business model. Same thing with oil companies, they became resellers of foreign oil… making money from distributing it… instead of producing it at home, or developing something to replace it. See the pattern… it’s not just democrat vs. republican… it is even more simple than that… it is greed. It is doing what is easy as opposed to doing what is right.

  • Newly Independent

    Isn’t that cute!!

  • cynic

    Republicans love telling that revisionist tale. Unfortunately I seem to recall that deregulation was an unquestioned tenet of their fundamentalist economic faith for years. They preached The less regulation the better. All would best if free market forces were given free rein. They turned ‘em loose, with some crack-brained notion that greedy people would do the right thing. Or at least make a pile of money.

    McCain has got to be the rhetorical flip-flopper of the century. Suddenly up is down and right is left. What we did is what they did. More of the same has been recast as change. The guy makes my head spin.

  • Irish1139

    If Obama wins the election, he will have to appoint a Secretary of the Treasury. He will have control over all that money and what is done with it.

    Can he be trusted to appoint the right people? I don’t think so. This crisis seems to be gamed by Obama and his crowd. We are probably all going down.

    We must get McCain in. I know he can be trusted.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Susan and others,

    It’s a little annoying you give issues like being “Off Topic” the wealth of your attention, and then ignore the many relevent comments that add information to the points in your post.

    Just Saying.

  • Docelder

    Well, if Halliburton buys out one or more of these big banks… then we should worry. ;)

  • beebop

    It won’t be funny if the MSM doesn’t quit covering up for this idiot and he gets elected in November. He’s running for POTUS not class freaking clown!

  • McHope

    Wrong on all accounts. The words deliberately obtuse come to mind.
    Are you saying you would not like to see what your parent’s tax dollars are being spent on?
    Good argument.
    AND
    Palin NEVER used private email to do public business- but a DEM will be going to jail on the federal crime of hacking-the moral standards of the dems, lol.
    She’s not stonewalling the personnel board on ‘troopergate’. In fact, she requested the investigation. Nice try.
    The only candidate that is Cheney like is Obama- the only candidate who voted for Cheney’s energy bill.

  • beebop

    I am driving a 12 year old car.

    If someone bought a Hummer, too f*cking bad for them. So sorry.

  • beebop

    What they did is like selling drugs to addicts.

  • Dawnelle

    they will have a true majority in NOV

    the Senate too (probably)

    and with McCain/Palin we will have a
    perfect BALANCE

    lets see how smart Bill Clinton really is when he said

    do you vote for the guy you only agree with half of the time that you KNOW will get things done?

    or the guy you agree with on policy all the time but KNOW won’t get anything done

    because if Obama wins the presidency his history will become our future

    no accomplishments and lots of dirty skeletons coming out of all the WH closets!

    (and if he meant that he agrees with McCain 100 percent of the time but doesn’t think the house and senate majority of DEMS will let him pass anything than that says even MORE about Bill C) do you think he meant they are both moderates from different parties that agree on everything?

    Cuz I can’t see him agreeing with Bambi’s plans 100 percent of the time either.

    ugh I just gave myself a headache
    bbl ;-)

  • Duras

    Gallup polls registered voters while Rasmussen polls likely voters, so I think Rasmussen is probably more accurate. But both polls are showing that the race is very tight and there are still quite a few undecided voters out there. How these voters ultimately break will decide who wins. There’s over 5 weeks left, which is an eternity in politics. So, don’t obsess over the daily tracking polls right now. (And for the record, I was saying the same thing when McCain was ahead.)

    Obama has gotten a bounce out of the mortgage mess since the knee-jerk reaction is to place the blame on the party currently in the White House. But as more people find out that it was McCain who tried to intrroduce legislation to reform the mortgage industry years ago while Obama was busy raking in over $1 million in campaign contributions from Wall Street, the polls will start to move back towards McCain.

  • Kevin

    Romney does have the business sense to handle this.
    I have a feeling that he will be in the running for SecTreas.

  • Irish1139

    Don’t forget in 6 weeks a new Secretary of the Treasury will be named.

  • Duras

    I wouldn’t trust Chris Dodd to shine my shoes.

  • cynic

    Do you think the guy to take a stance on an $800 billion bail out proposal he hasn’t even seen the details of yet?

    McCain quickly took a stance. A phony one. He found a scapegoat. He decisively announced he’d fire Christopher Cox, head of the SEC.

    Firing the head of the SEC when there’s no obvious reason to blame him for the problem is bad enough. Doing it at a moment of financial crisis would be totally nuts. It’s like panicking and pulling the captain of a jet out of the pilot’s seat because you’ve suddenly realized you’re flying into a storm.

    Besides which, the president isn’t empowered to fire the head of the SEC.

    McCain is just playing politics with the moment. Obama is wisely waiting to find out what’s actually going on before he starts saying what should be done about it.

  • Irish1139

    The press are all frickin’ idiots — that’s why they aren’t talkin to ya.

  • Duras

    You’re quite right, Annie. Unfortunately, the situation has been allowed to fester to the point where it’s now become systemic throughout the entire financial system. If the government doesn’t decisively now, then we run the risk of having the entire financial system implode in panicked selling. That could bring on another depression like the one that ravaged the world in the 1930s. At this point, the government has to step in, as much as I hate to see it happen.

  • cynic

    A typo. Sorry about that. I meant to say: Do you think the guy should take a stance on an $800 billion bail out proposal he hasn’t even seen the details of yet?

  • Dawnelle

    THIS is a perfect example why America needs Sarah.

    She’s a fresh reformer from OUTSIDE the beltway.

    And she has the hutzspah to “tweek” McCain’s edges as we know he’s from inside as well. If only by osmosis he’s connected and has a past he’s trying to get over too. I believe everyone deserves a 2nd chance if they prove themselves and I really think he’s trying.

    I could be wrong in the end but regardless the Obama Group is something I agree with NEVER (so far)

    I can’t think of ONE thing he’s done or plans to do that I like at all………… nada

    and Biden even Less

  • vinnie

    OMG, really? Is there a news story link?

  • Kevin

    Ah,
    The cult of victimhood.
    No one is responsible for their actions.

    Bought too much house?

    The Real Estate agent made me.
    Got approved for a no-doc, stated income loan, that you grossly overstated your income on?

    Blame the mortgage broker.

    Didn’t ask questions about the terms of the loan?

    It’s that bad mortgage company.

    Getting foreclosed on because you didn’t pay?

    The government needs to help me.

  • Irish1139

    I have heard all I need to about troopergate. She had every right to fire the guy. He was acting behind her back on a lot of things he had no right to do. You don’t actually think she would do something wrong, do you?

  • Duras

    Believe me, he wants to say as little of substance on this as possible. For one thing, he wants to continue to ride the wave of popular discontent that’s given him his recent bounce in the polls. But at the same time, he doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact that he has cozy relationships with two principals at Fannie Mae or that he’s received over $1 million in campaign cash from big Wall Street investment banking houses while opposing legislation that could perhaps have prevented this mess.

    But just watch. McCain is going to absolutely nail him with it during the debate on economic issues.

  • McHope

    How does it serve you , your family or your candidate for you to stick your head in the sand? The DEMS are involved in this right here, right now.If you don’t care to see what’s in front of you, then why discuss the issue at all.
    There is plenty of blame to go around.
    You cannot deny that what needs to be done now is to fix the problem.
    Transparency is a critical component. These criminals (and that’s what they are) need to be exposed. Name by name. D or R. Get it? And there is only one candidate who has even said as much.
    You may not like republicans or McCain, but there’s a greater chance of reform from some one who at least says they want to accomplish it than from someone who gives statements about why he doesn’t make a statement.
    If someone is against reform or transparency, don’t you wonder why or what they are hiding?

    Troop funding? Okay.
    You mean the funding Obama voted against? Write back when you put on a uniform and find your legislators don’t want to fund your equipment. Good thing they spent 21 months on just that (apparently, according to you, Congress cannot handle more than one issue per year). Stop making excuses for them and elect someone who is not afraid to stand up to anyone in any party for you.
    McCain/Palin’08

  • Dawnelle

    One more year and mine is paid OFF!!!! YaHOO!!

  • Kevin

    There is nothing private about a U.S. Senator on a PUBLICLY FINANCED fact finding mission, discussing the situation with the commanders of U.S. Forces and the government of Iraq.

    private comments?
    on our dime?

  • bayareavoter

    one of the funniest answers Barry gave last night on 60 minutes about the economy and regulation is that he has of track record of believing in this stuff –I guess when you don’t have a track record at all that’s supposed to be good enough. McCain actually tried to re-regulate fannie and freddie. This is absurd:

    Kroft: Senator McCain made some of the same noises this week, blaming Wall Street greed, promising reform and oversight, and new regulations to protect investors. What’s the difference between the two of you?

    Obama:
    Well, the difference is, I think, that I’ve got a track record of actually believing in this stuff. (emphasis mine) And, you know, Senator McCain, fairly recently, said, “I’m a deregulator.” It’s one of his top chief economic advisors was Phil Gramm , who was one of the architects of deregulation in this sector. And he’s always taken great pride in believing that we have to eliminate regulations.

  • Dawnelle

    I mean IT worked on the dnc blog

    not that I worked on the dnc blog

    (although had I been paid by the hour for bloggin there I’d have little money problems today) lol

  • Creature of Chicago

    How was the turnout?

    He’s coming to my neck of the woods today, but I won’t be able to make it.

  • Irish1139

    What a wonderful video and what a wonderful church. This program should be spread to all churches, especially Obama’s church.

    This is a right kind of pastor and a right kind of community. I was really impressed.

  • Creature of Chicago

    Sounds right to me too!

  • Irish1139

    90 democrats in the senate voted for the deregulation bill.

  • George Orwell

    I just saw the AP headline – Obama’s promised to balance out this $700 – $800 billion additional budget shortfall by cutting $40 billion in government spending.

    Is there about Chicago School Economics I lack the Nuance to understand?

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD93BU8O81

  • Newly Independent

    I agree completely!

    And I find this sudden focus on this bailout, in my opinion, to be a ploy by the Obama campaign and his huge Wall Street backers to play on voters’ fears about the economy and stir us away from McCain – even though Obama himself has absolutely NO GOOD SOLUTIONS whatsoever for fixing our sinking economy!

    I find it incredibly strange that this Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae mess & this renewed “concern” for the economy has surfaced in the MSM again. Especially considering that McCain has been kicking Obama’s ass in the polls for several weeks now after his VP selection of Palin. And so far, ALL attempts by the Obama spawn to trash Sarah Palin and McCain have failed miserably.

    Could this sudden renewed focus on the economy by the MSM be the new “scare tactic” being used to frighten women McCain/Palin supporters and undecided women voters into voting for Obama? It’s obvious that Obama’s group completely failed at using Roe vs. Wade to scare up votes from most American women. So is “the economy” the new scare tactic?

  • Kal

    All it took was a well-timed and sharply focused round of short selling on the stock market.

    Easy peasy.

  • athena

    Great idea…..

  • cynic

    Right.

    McCain’s 2008 campaign staff includes more former lobbyists than all the other primary candidates combined. (They’re former because he had them temporarily break their lobbying ties for the duration of his 2008 campaign. Like Randy, who no longer officially lobbys for the Republic of Georgia. A LLC he owns took over the contract.)

    Special interests have donated $11,750,051 in bundled lobbyist money to John McCain’s campaign efforts over the past decade.

    John’s current campaign staff have personally pocketed nearly $1 BILLION in lobbying fees over the past decade. ($930,949,819 is the exact figure.)

    This would seem to run a bit contrary to the image John’s campaign is projecting.

    http://www.campaignmoney.org/pressroom/2008/08/13/the-nearly-1-billion-connection-mccain-and-his-lobbyists-clients

  • Maverick

    Treading water huh? Man you obots love to lie and smear. Take your bullcrap to someone who cares.
    No one believes a word you say. What do you think we are? Stupid? We are not falling for your lies kid. Palin is the best thing since apple pie and you are all in for it when she takes office.

  • Maverick

    No thanks-these laws were to protect the borrower and they were not adhered to. You look it up.

  • cynic

    Well, John promises to balance the budget by cutting out $18 billion a year in earmarks. Has he come up with something else now?

    Maybe the election will come down to which candidate is the most arithmetically challenged…

  • Maverick

    Wasn’t that President Clintons deregulation bill? Hmmm

    Gov Palin and her praying for the troops..and Charlie Gibson making no sense. New video.
    Awesome.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpwM4Jjyrs

  • Irish1139

    Maybe Obama will rent a statium to hold 80,000 people at a cost of $6 million and tell us how he is going to cut spending. The way this guy has been spending money to get elected, somehow I can’t see him cutting anything.

  • Sue

    Absolutely I can feel it. I have a terrible feeling about Obama and his cohorts. I honestly can’t believe he’s in this race. I ask myself every day…what the hell is going on???

  • Keep It Up

    Hey cynic – I mean, Axelrod-Junior, don’t you have some ballots for dead people in swing states to fill out?

  • Maverick

    His seat is being challenged. There is someone running aganst Dodd. Anyone know about this?

  • Keep It Up

    I agree with you cynic, Obama is a clueless idiot hypocrite.

  • Maverick

    More made up stories. You obots remind me the town gossip who makes up the worst stories ever.

  • snowhite

    Obama gave himself credit for Abramoff hearings——in his speech today.I thought that was Mccain holding those hearings.Why does nobody care about these lies????

  • Maverick

    Oboy. Who’s personal pockets will this money land up in?

  • athena

    right on!

  • cynic

    Uh huh. (Uh, I meant to say BULLSH-T! }

    Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, Pub.L. 106-102: Only 1 democrat voted YEA; 39 voted NAY.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s1999-105

    The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 became law as part of H.R. 4577, the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2001: 7 democrats voted YEA; 30 democrats voted NAY.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2000-171

    Those critical pieces of financial deregulation were passed by the republican majority, against strong democratic opposition.

  • cynic

    I presume you’ve been excused from any oblication to perform jury duty…

  • Docelder

    actually believing in this stuff

    So in other words… he “drinks his own kool-aid” and “smokes his own hopium”. :)

  • NomNomNom

    I’m sure they’re just gonna hand it over as soon as they can out of the goodness of their little hearts.
    Better make sure you’re armed when you go asking for your money back.

  • athena

    Wow – that is suprising – NOT! I am so sick and tired of the Obama fanatics. Can’t wait for Nov. 5th. They can crawl back in their holes as McCain/Palin claim victory.

  • Docelder

    No, and “Emperor of the World” isn’t the job he’s running for. Though, he still hasn’t got that far yet.

  • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

    I guess that McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis wasn’t just playing footsie with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac himself. 2 Million in 5 years is a lot of footsie.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1222113910-fMRZMooFXM0MyQLSeag8+w

  • cynic

    Republicans seem to forget that there’s an actual record of who voted for and against what.

    The McCain campaign has been caught telling enough outright lies now that people aren’t believing much of anything they say.

    Considering all the public knows and suspects now about the Bush administration’s chronic lying, I’d have thought McCain’s people would have been a little more careful.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Stay on topic asshole, and answer the charges concerning contributions, Celsius, you POS obamabot. If you can’t/don’t/won’t you’re a spammer and should be banned from this site

  • mrduffin

    Cynic….the only people that are going to vote for obama are the folks who do not care he is anti-america. If you are one of those people then you need to move to Russia where obama would be a hero.

  • cynic

    Dems did fund the troops. That troops on the ground might go underfunded if he wasn’t given a budget bill he would sign was what Bush was using to pressure Congress, remember?

    We seem to forget recent history very quicklyl.

  • cynic

    If we stayed on the topics the republicans wanted, we’d still be talking about irrelevent b.s. like misunderstood lipstick comments…

  • cynic

    Nope. It was Phil Gramm’s, if anybody’s. Democrats took a strong position against deregulation. Look up the votes.

  • JB

    The trouble with accountability and oversight is that the people who were suppose to perform those functions failed. This was nothing short of a politically-motivated, government-run scam, and now they want themselves (the fox) to oversee this (guard the henhouse.)

    These bastards are not to be trusted with a penny of our money, and yet today Dodd was out there asking for more.

    As long as government passes legislation which favors feel-good, give-away programs which are bound to bankrupt the nation sooner or later we will have these problems.

    There is no accountability for Congress. We need a radical reworking of our federal government to fix this, and it should start with making over Congress.

  • athena

    Not to mention McCain was supporting the current administrations positions. Whereas Obama was negotiating in stark contrast to the current administration. Whether you agree with it out not that is a big time no-no.

  • Kevin

    Term limits
    No former federal employee may register as a lobbyist within 5 years of leaving govt. service.

  • Bob

    That’s pretty silly. It’s been online since Fridayonline. It’s the economics blogs who have been ripping it apart as soon as they got it.

    BTW: Hillary Clinton is the one with the real solution.

  • Leisa

    Agreed!

  • JB

    Good start. I’ve seen proposals that limit Congressmen to 18 years. Lobbying restrictions as well. A total ban on lobbying and campaign contributions by any entity receiving federal funds or which is ultimately secured/insured by the taxpayer.

    End the scam!

  • Rob in Chicago

    That’s the Biden wet dream, a total bailout for MBNA.

  • JB

    That’s ok. He drew attention to it. Let them put it online officially so there’s accountability.

  • athena

    me too and I love it and will keep it until it doesn’t drive anymore and then still get it fixed.

    Oil up $25.00 today.

  • Leisa

    Kevin,

    This reads like a team Obama talking points memo of the “oppo research” that they did on McCain & Co. They used to send out the same stuff on Hillary and the compliant press would send those talking points through the spin cycle…

    At any rate, who are the sources for that information? A democrat?

    That is a seriously weak article, and not very damning. Davis was not in charge of the financial decisions of those companies. Very.weak.attack.

  • Leisa

    I guess you are a republican then? ;)

  • athena

    Oh look it is from the New York Times………

    They are on par with the STAR and NATIONAL INQUIRER these days….

  • Leisa

    Yes, too many shadow loans to go around!

  • John Smith

    I am glad someone is telling the story. I wonder how Obama is going to spin this. “us oh well his chairman got money from them too 10 years ago. Now what do you say to that” Totally ignoring that McCain introduced legislation 3 years ago.

  • Jackie

    In fact McCain presented his plan before Hillary but Great minds think alike. They came up with very similar plans and if it were up to them today they would sit down and hammer out an agreement and impliment it.

  • athena

    The hair on the back of my neck has been standing up for the past week…….Intuitively I am worried this have been purposely contrived.

  • Leisa

    Here is an interesting article about goings on in Asia…

    http://www.cfoasia.com/archives/200507-02.htm

    Here was a warning in January…

    http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+January+2008.htm

    Our modern shadow banking system craftily dodges the reserve requirements of traditional institutions and promotes a chain letter, pyramid scheme of leverage, based in many cases on no reserve cushion whatsoever.

  • Visiting Supporter

    Agreed. I’d like to see the proposal up on the net. I’m fairly sure, from the hints I’ve seen so far, that I want to object to some part of this set of expeditures, and tell my Congresscritters so. But I want to have details so that I can be precise when voicing my concerns.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Sure, Obama believes in marketplace oversight, he just doesn’t have the mental capacity to ACT ON IT.

    What has he done to end coreuption in the city that SPAWNED him? NADA, ZILTCH,NUTTIN.

    Meanwhile, McCain cosponsors SB190 in 2006,to provide oversight of Fannie and Freddie, Mr “I Believe” tows the Democratic line and votes NAY.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Term Limits was the trojan horse of the “Republican Revolution” and the “Contract with America” that ushered in the Republican congress in 1994.

    18 year terms is nearly a generation, and that is way too friggin long.

    We The People need to push for limits of 4 terms for both the House and Senate. That would be 8 years for House Members, and 24 for the Senate.

    Those terms are more in line with what the framers intended.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    I wish the govt would invest in those of us who do pay our bills on time

    That is the paramount failure of our system. Why do we prop up failures, and ignore success?? CEO’s of failed companies get windfall compensation, Ghetto Monkeys get Welfare, free Medical Care, and Affirmative Action.

    There some too silent voices in the Red Cross and other aid agencies that argue that by providing aid to lawless countres, only perpetuates lawlessness.

    The same happens in this country. Bailing out failures allows them to live to fail again and again.

    Bail out the debt of a reckless gambler, and that gamble will lose again, wanting the same bailout.

    Families go through this time and again with addicted relatives.

    The government should be rewarding success and achievment, not failure.

    I am tired of being called upon to support idiots, and their failed companies and offspring.

    I own my house, car, and am preparing for retirement because I took the BORING road of living within my means.

    That does not mean that if someone finds hardship at no fault of their own that we should not help them back up. But it does mean that we should not reward idiocy.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Obama and his Obots seem to forget that there’s an actual record of who voted for and against what.

    SB190

    Obama voted against regulating Fannie and Freddie while raking in more cash from those institutions than any member of congress except Chris Dodd.

    Obama was bought off. Simple as that.

  • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

    My name is Kelvin with an L. You can say what you want, just spell my name right. Here’s one more:
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/home_ownership_rick_davis_and.php

  • TeakwoodKite

    What a blunt line from McCain regarding trust.

    Be advised; this 750 billion dollar bailout is the tip of the iceberg.

    It is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better in ten years or so.

  • Leisa

    Jim Leach is an Obama supporter… you know, one of the authors of that act.

    This argument is hypocritical.

  • Sojourner

    Funny that this idea comes from a candidate alleged to be unfamiliar with or use computers.

  • http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/ AdrianS

    Now let me understand this. Fail out wants $700 Billion to $1 Trillion dollars.

    That’s one thousand Billion dollars. A Billion dollars one thousand times.

    Where’s it going to come from. Don’t you dare let this happen. The minute the money printing presses start cranking out one thousand billion dollars, the dollar in your wallet is going to be worth, maybe, 5 cents.

    The more money that gets cranked out into the market, the less each dollar will be worth. Got $10.00. You’ll have maybe 50 cents.

    It will be a very cold day in hell when the federal government decides to help Mr. John Smith with his failing family business. Why should the government help Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, AIG or any others. The government is NOT in the business of doing business. Unless, of course, you agree to a bit of fascism. Perhaps a little socialism. I say NO.

    Let those who have made miscalculations and bad judgments. The guys who handle the oil are NOT giving us any breaks. Why should we give them anything? Let them fail. Remember AMC motor cars? Remember Gulf+Western oil? Remember CompUSA? When businesses run out of money and ideas; it time for someone else to take their turn to get into the act.
    It’s call Capitalism.

    Fight the bail-out. Let them fail-out!

  • DanNY

    Overheard in the halls of congress

    OH NO! What are we going to do we can’t have McCain becoming President he is going to hold us all accountable!!! We can’t have that! What are we going to do? Holy jumping Joseph a leader of the people hw is going to lay it all out there for everyone to see. No more back room deals to screw the tax paying voters! SHIT McCain/Palin might make us all stand up and account for our votes. Not just let us sneak around like rats lying all the time.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    You are comparing Rick Davis’s compensation of $400k per year to Fraknlin Raines and Jim Johnson’s book cooking theft of $25 million annually?

    Raines looted 25 mil per yea for 6 years. That’s 150 million in what the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight called “unjust enrichment”.

    Raine was fined a mere 24 millon for cooking the books, but did not pay a dime out of his own pocket. Fannie Mae and insurance companies paid the entire fine.

    There were no consequences for Raines but plenty for shareholders and the public needing mortgages.

    Take your Davis BULLSHIT back to Obamaland where only the ignorant will might believe it.

  • Mr. Natural

    - grams… and the bus!

  • Mr. Natural

    Chump change

  • Mr. Natural

    Nobody misunderstood that personal attack, o’bot.

  • Leisa

    Perhaps I left that little “L” out intentionally… now you know how frustrating the media is, when they leave minute details out of their reports, it completely changes the meaning or message now doesn’t it?

  • Visiting Supporter

    Well-said, Docelder.

    The rules in place at the time encouraged capitalists to do exactly what they did. The pursuit of short-term returns, and to heck with the long-term, has been the fashion in capitalism over the past couple of decades.

  • Visiting Supporter

    I’m wishing I Tivo’d the hearings, and am hoping they’ll be re-run tonight.

    The short article I saw in the NY Times didn’t begin to address the issue with the kind of specificity my creditors would demand to extend me credit in the light of questionable situations in my business or personal life. As a taxpayer, I see myself as a potential creditor of (ok, more likely, donor to, which is even worse) anyone who’d be bailed out here. Therefore, I want details. I want accountability on the part of those who will be making decisions on matters not specified in the plan. Etc. There are too many unanswered questions at this point for me to support the current proposal.

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