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	<title>Comments on: Arizona Included In Human Rights Paper By The State Department  *UPDATED*</title>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRRAmy - I missed this post last week when I was loggerblocked with work.&#160; I actually looked for a posting on this subject, but didn&#039;t have enough time.

Like you, this truly bothered me - that Hillary would do something like this.&#160; First of all,&#160;this seems like&#160;an unlikely issue for the&#160;*State Dept*.&#160; What a stretch to put it in a&#160;report to the&#160;UN???&#160; I don&#039;t get it!&#160;

As soon as I heard this my first thought was the comment written here on NQ on another topic, but fits here (sorry I can&#039;t give credit to the commenter):&#160; Something to the effect, &quot;They (0 admin) are making sure Hillary is given tasks that would&#160;make it nearly impossible for her to walk it back&quot; (an insurance policy to make sure she can&#039;t run against thee one) - meaning, things&#160;like the very&#160;subject of this post.&#160; So true.&#160;

But, I will say, if&#160;she is being coersed&#160;into these things that she does not fully support, that would be grounds for resigning and explanation enough.&#160;

It is very difficult for me to&#160;believe this is for real.&#160; PJ Crowley is 100% on the 0bama bandwagon, so who knows whether he has&#160;more loyalty to them or Hillary.&#160; I just hope to hell she didn&#039;t hire him!&#160; I suspect he has been there.&#160;

I understand what &quot;My&#160;site&quot; is saying about FoxNews.&#160; Yes, they gave Hillary a fair shake *after* they realized she was in what appeared to be a huge fight for the nomination - prefering her to 0.&#160; Before that,&#160;not so much.&#160; Since&#160;it has come out recently that Hillary may run against 0 in 2012, their sniping&#160;about the Clintons has&#160;increased.&#160; I had the same thoughts&#160;as My Site.&#160;

If Hillary&#160;were to&#160;run,&#160;we may have no where to go for news but the internet.&#160;&#160;Despite the fact&#160;FoxNews now&#160;thankfully has an on-going investigation of the primary and election&#160;fraud,&#160;I have said for a long time Fox did not&#160;investigate the primary of 2008 and all the reports they received on the caucus fraud, etc., because they are afraid it would help Hillary.&#160; They want a conservative and that usually means republican, regardless of their &quot;fair and balanced&quot; claims.&#160;&#160;

In the case of the AZ/UN situation, I don&#039;t think Fox has blown this up, but I do think there is a possibility that she has been burdened with doing things to support 0bama - enough that she can be tainted with the same criticism he is having to take.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRRAmy &#8211; I missed this post last week when I was loggerblocked with work.&nbsp; I actually looked for a posting on this subject, but didn&#8217;t have enough time.</p>
<p>Like you, this truly bothered me &#8211; that Hillary would do something like this.&nbsp; First of all,&nbsp;this seems like&nbsp;an unlikely issue for the&nbsp;*State Dept*.&nbsp; What a stretch to put it in a&nbsp;report to the&nbsp;UN???&nbsp; I don&#8217;t get it!&nbsp;</p>
<p>As soon as I heard this my first thought was the comment written here on NQ on another topic, but fits here (sorry I can&#8217;t give credit to the commenter):&nbsp; Something to the effect, &#8220;They (0 admin) are making sure Hillary is given tasks that would&nbsp;make it nearly impossible for her to walk it back&#8221; (an insurance policy to make sure she can&#8217;t run against thee one) &#8211; meaning, things&nbsp;like the very&nbsp;subject of this post.&nbsp; So true.&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, I will say, if&nbsp;she is being coersed&nbsp;into these things that she does not fully support, that would be grounds for resigning and explanation enough.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is very difficult for me to&nbsp;believe this is for real.&nbsp; PJ Crowley is 100% on the 0bama bandwagon, so who knows whether he has&nbsp;more loyalty to them or Hillary.&nbsp; I just hope to hell she didn&#8217;t hire him!&nbsp; I suspect he has been there.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I understand what &#8220;My&nbsp;site&#8221; is saying about FoxNews.&nbsp; Yes, they gave Hillary a fair shake *after* they realized she was in what appeared to be a huge fight for the nomination &#8211; prefering her to 0.&nbsp; Before that,&nbsp;not so much.&nbsp; Since&nbsp;it has come out recently that Hillary may run against 0 in 2012, their sniping&nbsp;about the Clintons has&nbsp;increased.&nbsp; I had the same thoughts&nbsp;as My Site.&nbsp;</p>
<p>If Hillary&nbsp;were to&nbsp;run,&nbsp;we may have no where to go for news but the internet.&nbsp;&nbsp;Despite the fact&nbsp;FoxNews now&nbsp;thankfully has an on-going investigation of the primary and election&nbsp;fraud,&nbsp;I have said for a long time Fox did not&nbsp;investigate the primary of 2008 and all the reports they received on the caucus fraud, etc., because they are afraid it would help Hillary.&nbsp; They want a conservative and that usually means republican, regardless of their &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; claims.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the case of the AZ/UN situation, I don&#8217;t think Fox has blown this up, but I do think there is a possibility that she has been burdened with doing things to support 0bama &#8211; enough that she can be tainted with the same criticism he is having to take.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Athena the Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athena the Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This administration has proven time and time again what it thinks of the Constitution. </description>
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		<title>By: rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said felizarte! </description>
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		<title>By: felizarte</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/49732/arizona-on-human-rights-list-says-state-department/#comment-1400920</link>
		<dc:creator>felizarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really the issue you want Hillary to fall on her sword for? &#160;We don&#039;t know everything she knows or what she is working on that impact the set of priorities she has to consider every moment, every single day that impacts the country. &#160;The same standards should be applied to her as to every other govt. official, including Barack Obama. &#160;I am not willing to penalize her (in my mind at least) on the surface of things, especially in an environment where we can&#039;t really verify the sources, media or govt. &#160;I can only say that based on her public record of accomplishments, I can still trust her to do what is right, or the less bad in the circumstances affecting her decisions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really the issue you want Hillary to fall on her sword for? &nbsp;We don&#8217;t know everything she knows or what she is working on that impact the set of priorities she has to consider every moment, every single day that impacts the country. &nbsp;The same standards should be applied to her as to every other govt. official, including Barack Obama. &nbsp;I am not willing to penalize her (in my mind at least) on the surface of things, especially in an environment where we can&#8217;t really verify the sources, media or govt. &nbsp;I can only say that based on her public record of accomplishments, I can still trust her to do what is right, or the less bad in the circumstances affecting her decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Wynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Wynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy,

By now, we all should know that no matter what Hillary does, she will be blamed, attacked and vilified.&#160; No woman is EVER going be given the same standards as a man in the same position, making the same decisions.

Obviously, we haven&#039;t learned a thing about the double standard imposed on any woman, for any reason, since the horrid 2008 primary when two accomplished women were treated like a punching bag by anyone who disagreed with them.

I refuse to condemn Hillary for becoming SOS, because had she refused, she would have been attacked as a sore loser; if she refuses to support obama&#039;s policies which her supporters don&#039;t like, they attack her and not obama.&#160;

It was Hillary who gave the heads-up to AZ when she talked about the lawsuit about to be filed by the DOJ in an interview.&#160; I suspect she was called on the carpet for that because we all know Hillary doesn&#039;t have a habit of saying something controversial by &quot;accident&quot;.

We have a corrupt government and powerful forces who put obama in the WH against the express will of the people.&#160; Does anyone honestly think Hillary&#039;s carreer would remain intact if she openly defied obama at this juncture?&#160; Get real.&#160;

Also, if she were to retire now, do you really believe the MSM and the forces behind obama would not go after her should she speak openly against the obama administration?&#160; They would make certain that she never got into office again, because they also control the elections (which&#160;was clearly&#160;evident&#160;considering who won both&#160;the 2000 2004&#160;general elections).&#160; They easily&#160;stopped her from getting the nomination and the presidency, so do you really believe they&#039;ve lost the power to stop her again?&#160;

Could we&#160;put aside the double standard against Hillary for a moment and think of what she is up against?&#160;&#160;Based on the latest poll numbers for obama, it appears to me that given enough rope, the obama administration is going to hang&#160;itself and come 2012,&#160;if he continues to go downhill like he is now, I bet Hillary will be the one everyone will want to run for the presidency.&#160; It would be one of the most historic, if not THE, most historic race in our country&#039;s history on so many levels.

I still believe in Hillary. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy,</p>
<p>By now, we all should know that no matter what Hillary does, she will be blamed, attacked and vilified.&nbsp; No woman is EVER going be given the same standards as a man in the same position, making the same decisions.</p>
<p>Obviously, we haven&#8217;t learned a thing about the double standard imposed on any woman, for any reason, since the horrid 2008 primary when two accomplished women were treated like a punching bag by anyone who disagreed with them.</p>
<p>I refuse to condemn Hillary for becoming SOS, because had she refused, she would have been attacked as a sore loser; if she refuses to support obama&#8217;s policies which her supporters don&#8217;t like, they attack her and not obama.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was Hillary who gave the heads-up to AZ when she talked about the lawsuit about to be filed by the DOJ in an interview.&nbsp; I suspect she was called on the carpet for that because we all know Hillary doesn&#8217;t have a habit of saying something controversial by &#8220;accident&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have a corrupt government and powerful forces who put obama in the WH against the express will of the people.&nbsp; Does anyone honestly think Hillary&#8217;s carreer would remain intact if she openly defied obama at this juncture?&nbsp; Get real.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also, if she were to retire now, do you really believe the MSM and the forces behind obama would not go after her should she speak openly against the obama administration?&nbsp; They would make certain that she never got into office again, because they also control the elections (which&nbsp;was clearly&nbsp;evident&nbsp;considering who won both&nbsp;the 2000 2004&nbsp;general elections).&nbsp; They easily&nbsp;stopped her from getting the nomination and the presidency, so do you really believe they&#8217;ve lost the power to stop her again?&nbsp;</p>
<p>Could we&nbsp;put aside the double standard against Hillary for a moment and think of what she is up against?&nbsp;&nbsp;Based on the latest poll numbers for obama, it appears to me that given enough rope, the obama administration is going to hang&nbsp;itself and come 2012,&nbsp;if he continues to go downhill like he is now, I bet Hillary will be the one everyone will want to run for the presidency.&nbsp; It would be one of the most historic, if not THE, most historic race in our country&#8217;s history on so many levels.</p>
<p>I still believe in Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: FLDemFem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLDemFem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they were welcome, they had visas!! </description>
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		<title>By: Perry Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not wait untill November! </description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Natural</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Natural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosie may have been the Riveter, and there were a lot of Wendy Welders building Liberty and Victory ships. Nevada even had Magnesium Maggies working at Basic Metals.&#160;

My granny was a machinist. Taught me, among other things, the violin, how to set up a lathe and read a micrometer.

This was even more ironic when contrasted to the fact that her husband couldn&#039;t put the top on a bottle of Four Roses without cross-threading it.

The history of female telegraphers (not necessarily radio operators) in the US goes back to just before the War of the Rebellion (1861-1865)*, although, as a practice I suspect it may have been partly motivated by trying to get the wages down.

* Please note that I did NOT say, &quot;War for Southern Independence.&quot; That would have been &lt;i&gt;rayciss &lt;/i&gt;&#039;n shit... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosie may have been the Riveter, and there were a lot of Wendy Welders building Liberty and Victory ships. Nevada even had Magnesium Maggies working at Basic Metals.&nbsp;</p>
<p>My granny was a machinist. Taught me, among other things, the violin, how to set up a lathe and read a micrometer.</p>
<p>This was even more ironic when contrasted to the fact that her husband couldn&#8217;t put the top on a bottle of Four Roses without cross-threading it.</p>
<p>The history of female telegraphers (not necessarily radio operators) in the US goes back to just before the War of the Rebellion (1861-1865)*, although, as a practice I suspect it may have been partly motivated by trying to get the wages down.</p>
<p>* Please note that I did NOT say, &#8220;War for Southern Independence.&#8221; That would have been <i>rayciss </i>&#8216;n shit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: felizarte</title>
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		<dc:creator>felizarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only time I will give up on Hillary is if she personally comes out in support of the mosque at ground zero.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only time I will give up on Hillary is if she personally comes out in support of the mosque at ground zero.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: felizarte</title>
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		<dc:creator>felizarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Natural, there&#039;s a lot about Philippine politics you don&#039;t know. &#160;But this is not the place for further discussion on that subject. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Natural, there&#8217;s a lot about Philippine politics you don&#8217;t know. &nbsp;But this is not the place for further discussion on that subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitter irony.&#160; My mother was the first female&#160;radio operator&#160;for Trans Canada Airways circa the early 1940s, at a time when radio was considered to be &quot;to technical&quot; for a woman to handle. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter irony.&nbsp; My mother was the first female&nbsp;radio operator&nbsp;for Trans Canada Airways circa the early 1940s, at a time when radio was considered to be &#8220;to technical&#8221; for a woman to handle.</p>
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		<title>By: oowawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>oowawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Rev. Amy--Thee One figures he can man-up and kick Jan Brewer&#039;s butt; not so sure about Arnold . . .&#160; (But my money&#039;s on Jan . . . ) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Rev. Amy&#8211;Thee One figures he can man-up and kick Jan Brewer&#8217;s butt; not so sure about Arnold . . .&nbsp; (But my money&#8217;s on Jan . . . )</p>
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		<title>By: beachnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>beachnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, I wouldn&#039;t have trusted anyone else with SOS position.&#160; Who would you rather have in there,,,Richardson, Kerry, Edwards, Dean?&#160; I would rather have her in this vital position than anyone else. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy, I wouldn&#8217;t have trusted anyone else with SOS position.&nbsp; Who would you rather have in there,,,Richardson, Kerry, Edwards, Dean?&nbsp; I would rather have her in this vital position than anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: ~~JustMe~~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~~JustMe~~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you oowawa! Always good to hear/see what is out there! </description>
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		<title>By: ~~JustMe~~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~~JustMe~~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you oowawa! </description>
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