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SusanUnPC’s Foreword: Today, a regular reader Steve sent me this video of Bill Clinton on ABC’s The View, discussing his and Hillary’s feelings about the vice presidency, and also — in a very insightful way — describing the complex sets of reasons why people vote as they do. His remarks are so thoughtful he should write a book about “why people vote the way they do.” He mentioned an article by a Washington, D.C.-area psychologist on her view that “gender” is the most important issue in determining one’s vote. I knew instantly that Bill Clinton was referring to our friend, Dr. Lynette Long, and it also hit me that in my ridiculously backed-up Inbox, I had lost track of her e-mail telling me about this article. After kicking myself hard, and thanks to Bill Clinton nudging my memory, I have retrieved Dr. Long’s article. Here are both:

BY DR. LYNETTE LONG: Gloria Steinem, in her September 4th editorial in the Los Angeles Times, came out strongly against Governor Palin claiming the only thing women have in common with Palin is an X chromosome.  I respectfully disagree. 

Governor Palin knows what it is like to be a woman, a mother, a daughter, a sister – things the two men on the Democratic ticket can never fully understand.  She knows what it is like to grow up invisible in an incredibly sexist society, to be stared at, groped, and sexually harassed.  She knows what it is like to be smaller in stature than men and physically vulnerable. She knows what it’s like to worry that you are pregnant when you don’t want to be or that you are not pregnant when you want to be. 

Sarah Palin knows what it is to experience the joys and sorrows of motherhood, to nurse a baby while holding down a job, to leave for work in the morning with a toddler tugging at your pant leg, or to have your children calling you at work to diffuse squabbles or ask for help with homework.  She knows that once you get to work you have to speak twice as loud and twice as often to be heard and work twice a hard to go half as far.  She knows what it is to be a member of the second sex.

Gender is the most fundamental human characteristic.  The first comment made when a child is born is either, “It’s a girl” or “It’s a boy.”  From that second on, boys and girls live in parallel universes in the same culture. From the nursery room to the board room, boys and girls are given different messages about their respective roles in the world.  

At the hospital they are given different types of names and wrapped in different colored blankets. Once home, baby girls and boys wear fundamentally different clothes and play with different toys.  This differentiation extends through school where girls are given less attention, picked less frequently to answer questions and placed less often in advanced science and math classes.  Once in the workforce, women are steered into lower-paying careers, paid less for the same work, and forced to juggle the responsibilities of work and home.  You can’t learn what it is to be a woman, unless you are one. You can’t have a government essentially devoid of women that knows what’s best for women.  You can’t legislate for women, without women. 

After the last Democratic Primary was over and it was clear, Senator Clinton was not going to get the Democratic nomination, myself, and a small group of Clinton supporters met with Senator McCain and Carly Fiorina. 

I personally explained to Senator McCain that women comprise well over half of the population, yet are underrepresented in every branch of government. I asked him loudly and clearly to choose a woman for the VP slot and to increase the number of women in the cabinet and on the Supreme Court.  Senator McCain listened respectfully to my request. Representatives of The New Agenda also met with Carly Fiorina as well as members of the Obama campaign to make similar requests.

After the Democratic Primary, I was personally in contact with a member of Obama’s Finance Committee.  He left several messages on my office phone, “urging” me to support Senator Obama.  We had numerous contentious conversations and I finally told him I would be happy to vote for Senator Obama and rally other Hillary supporters to vote for Obama but in return I wanted Obama to pledge gender parity in the cabinet. 

I foolishly thought equal representation in government was a reasonable request.  “What if there aren’t qualified women you still expect us to appoint half women to the cabinet?” he replied.  I was confused. “There are 300 mill ion people in this country; you’re telling me you can’t find ten qualified women?”  He responded, “You can’t have that.” We had no further conversations.  There was nothing more to say.

Weeks later I approached a training session for DNC canvassers at a park in my neighborhood.  Eager to practice their new skills, they all ran up to me, “Do you support Senator Obama? Do you want to donate money to the DNC?”  After explaining that I was a Hillary supporter, I again made my request.  I will support Senator Obama if he will pick a woman as his running mate and promise gender parity in the cabinet.  The men in the group openly laughed at me and found my request ridiculous.  I looked at the horrified faces of the newly minted female canvassers.  “They’re laughing at you too,” I muttered.

Not one to give up, I contacted a daughter of a friend of mine who is a policy advisor for Obama.  She assured me Obama was a good guy, so I posed my request to her.  She generously responded, “I’ll ask him.”

When I did not hear back from her in a few days, I shot her another email.  She told me how disappointed she was in me for making such a stupid request.  Obama was on the “right” side of the issues.  Why did it matter whether men or women legislated those issues?  I guess the answer from Obama was No. 

What saddened me was her mother was one of this nation’s greatest champions of Title Nine, educational equity and gender parity.  Her mother and I counted the number of pictures of boys and girls in text books, male and female cartoon characters, and documented the underrepresentation of girls in math classes in our nation’s schools.

Yes, policy is important but who decides and delivers that policy is even more important.  As Marshall McLuhan profoundly noted, “The medium is the message.”  Children incorporate many of their perceptions about gender by age five.  Little girls won’t understand if Sarah Palin is pro-life or pro-choice, believes in gun control or is a member of the NRA, but they will know the Vice-President of the United States of America is a girl and that alone will alter their perceptions of themselves.

I have given my loyalty to the Democratic Party for decades.  My party, which is comprised primarily of women, has not put a woman on a presidential ticket for 24 years. 

My party refused to nominate my candidate, Hillary Clinton, for president or vice president, even though she received more votes than any other candidate in history. 

My party stood silently by as Hillary Clinton was eviscerated by the mainstream media. 

My party was mute while the main stream media repeatedly called Clinton a bitch and symbolically called me and every other woman in this country a bitch. 

My party was disturbingly silent when the main stream media commented on Hillary’s body or the shrillness of her voice, reminding me and every other woman the fundamental disrespect we endure on a daily basis. 

My party’s candidate was mute when Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Pfleger openly mocked Senator Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ. 

My party’s candidate was silent when the rapper Ludicrous released a new song calling Hillary a bitch. 

My party and its candidate gave their tacit approval for the attacks on Senator Hillary Clinton and consequently women in general.

I have a choice.  I can vote for my party and its candidates which have demonstrated a blatant disrespect for women and a fundamental lack of integrity or I can vote for the Republican ticket which has heard our concerns and put a woman on the ticket but with whom I fundamentally don’t agree on most issues. 

If Democratic women wait for the perfect woman to come along, we will never elect a woman.  We have to seize opportunity where it presents itself.   Besides, the Democratic Party is no longer my home.  I have no home, but this election I will make my bed somewhere else. 

I respect Gloria Steinem’s right to support the presidential ticket of her choice but she is openly trying to derail Sarah Palin’s historic candidacy.  As Madeleine Albright said, “There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.”  

I will vote for McCain-Palin.  I urge other women to do the same.  I might not personally agree with Palin on every issue and I promise to the first person knocking on her door, if Roe v. Wade, or any other legislation that goes against the rights of women is threatened.

But in Governor Palin I find a woman of integrity, who not only talks the talk but walks the walk.  I can work with that.  I will work with that.  When I walk down the street, I don’t have Democrat printed on my forehead, but my gender is obvious to everyone and impacts every interaction in my life.

Since my country is far from gender neutral, right now for me gender trumps everything else.  I urge other women to join me in this fight for equality.  Sometimes opportunities occur where you least expect them.  

……………………………..

From my blog, Dr. Lynette Long. Also visit my Caucus Fraud analysis site.

[UPDATE: Dr. Long e-mailed me with a link to her posting of this video.]

  • Judy L. NC

    Yay, Dr. Long!

    Don’t get me started on the whole ‘even Freakin’ Afghanistan has 50% women in their legislature thing. . .’

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

      Great stuff. Thanks, Susan, and thank you, Dr. Long.

      New ad from Team McCain hitting Obama on the economic crisis.

      ‘Mum’
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1h-2WxIPy4

      • Moira

        Excellent anti-Obama TV ads aimed at Values Voters now airing in PA, CO, & NM

        http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/nra-firing-away.html

        http://www.gunbanobama.com/

        Memorable Animated Graphic Tag line on all ads: “DEFEND FREEDOM [drumbeat] DEFEAT OBAMA”

        - Another Lifelong Democrat Voting for McCain.

      • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

        I think it could be stronger…where is the reference to McCain’s early comments on this?

    • FembotsForObama

      agreed! I respect Dr. Long for her courage to say what ALL women are thinking.

      What the Dem party has lost besides our votes and money is all the hard work the WOMEN do during election time. The Dems can find someone else to take a day off without pay (which I’ve done for every election since I turned 18) to ensure that people are registered and get to the polls! I’m voting for McCain/Palin.

      Dr. Long has a great point here — “If Democratic women wait for the perfect woman to come along, we will never elect a woman. We have to seize opportunity where it presents itself.”

      Basically, this is the same thing Team Obama and the DNC are telling us — he’s not the perfect candidate, but he is black. But it’s ok for us to vote for him because he is black, but not Palin because she is a woman.

      We have a worse problem in our American society than racism — it’s sexism.

      And Dr. Long didn’t even mention that if Obama is elected, for the first time in our history we will have a candidate who said that a woman was on the rag for a rebuttal when he was questioned about his own policy’s shortcomings!

      Women, do we really want this to be allowed in every election hereafter?

      • Suzanne

        Holy sh#t, when did Obama say that? I am not voting for him anyways, but I did not hear of him saying that about a woman. I thought the Sweetie comment was bad enough. Please tell me where I can find a video or article about it.

        Thanks

  • WestPalm2008

    That hen house posing as a poignant and profound news and talk show is ridiculous.

    Joy Behar was on Larry King last night. She thinks she’s the second coming of Edward R. Murrow.

    Seeing Bill Clinton on this show, however, only helps me realize the stark differences in “leadership” between the Clintons and Obama. My how far the Democrats have fallen.

    • Judy L. NC

      LOL…and I’ll bet he didn’t tug at his clothes at all.

    • wodiej

      LOL…cripes, no kidding, hen house…a bunch of cackling, catty nitwits…what a disgrace to intelligent women.

    • destardi

      I lost ALL respect for Whoopi when she asked a RIDICULOUS question about “do I have to worry about slavery under a McCain admin”

      WTF?!?!?!?

      WHY Whoopi, WHY?!?

      • audacity

        yes, that’s the lowest point of this electoral season. i’m surprised that no one mentions it. will it be racist to do it?!

      • vinnie

        It’s so ridiculous for her to throw that out there without ANYTHING that would substantiate what she’s saying to the viewers? WTF is right.

        Big Dawg will always be #1 in my book.

        • makeji

          Indeed. He is just the best.

      • http://mmb silverfox

        destardi…

        i have been giving it thought, regarding Whoopie’s paranoid accusatory remark.

        does anyone think that Whoopie might be a tad reactionary? i mean, she has been one of very few successful token black women in a racist/misogynist industry for so many years now, and one of the first to reach such a pinnacle..

        however….

        this takes nothing away from her great talent, which has become somewhat blunted by time, comfort, and the corporate media buy-off that all successful and reflective artists face.

        no judgment of Whoopie though. she just wanted to get ahead in her career, and get her family out of poverty, like so many of us most likely would have, given the opportunity…

        i just wish she would be honest with herself about it.

        and stop putting Gov Palin down for doing what she did….

        which is to become an enormous success through dedicated hard work, a bit of luck…and against all odds.

        Whoopie can be faithful to her roots as an African American for Obama, and still be supportive of another woman’s great achievment. how sad that the obamcans push people to such hateful extremes.

        Gloria Steinem missed the boat this time around, as well.

        for Ms Steinem , we have no excuse whatsoever…she is a successful, moneyed, and privileged white woman in a system that she knows full well does not have the highest regard for women. that she would insult Gov Palin’s and our intelligence with the flip chromosome remark is beneath her and us.

        it reminds me of the time back in the old days of the second wave of feminism, when the inherent heterosexism and classism in the woman’s movement was confronted. many of the N.O.W. gals couldn’t handle the working class dykes and ran us off the reservation. eventually they caught up with us and had to grow the feminist theory a little wider.

        they had to come out of their fear. out of their comfort zone. open the mind.

        and now… the gals can’t handle republican feminists.

        lordy lord. the obamacans are waving all the predictable big red fear flags at women themselves, encouraging them to bash other women, as they disingenuously forgive the DNC for their vote tampering, manipulated candidate selection, and male dominated fucked up highjacked democratic party.

        no thanks guys. that ship has sailed.

        and as for the faux feminists…give the old gals time….they’ll eventually remember what feminism actually means.

        til then, we are around to continually remind them of what it is until they do remember.

    • Jackie

      As an aside on Bill CLinton. He was on Letterman last night and he was talking with Dave about lots of stuff. It was a good interview the one thing that I thought was telling, Bill only said Obama’s name once.

      He talked about Palin, McCain, Biden, Hillary of course but no Obama.

      Chris Rock followed him on the show and was very vocal about the fact that Bill avoided saying Obama’s name. At that point I laughed.

      Bill and Hillary are doing the minimum to help this usurper. (think prince John from Disney’s Robin Hood) LOL

      • http://deleted Buzz Latte

        I watched the Clinton-Letterman interview, too. I loved how crafty Bill was about giving the dem ticket support by praising Biden, not Obama.

        I thought Chris Rock was obnoxious but also telling of just how nervous the Obots are about losing the election. They should be. They have the worst and corrupt candidate ever. Obama would have to pay back favors to some very shady anti-american people. That’s not good.

        Overheard in the grocery store last night:

        woman #1: “Oh, Oprah says that we should try this.” (don’t know what it was)

        woman #2: “Oprah is the more over-rated windbag on TV. She and those NY rags on the View can kiss my rosy red ass.”

        Now THAT made me smile!!!

      • athena

        If you already have seen this….
        The DNC has released it’s count of the primaries. Obama only took the pledged delegates by 17. No wonder they had to give him four from Mighigan, not fully count Florida, rig every delegate they could steal from Tx.

        The Final Tally On The Popular Vote:
        Hillary Clinton 17,857,446 — 48.04%
        Barack Obama 17,584,649 — 47.31%
        The Final Pledged Delegate Count
        Hillary Clinton 1,730.5 — 39.17%
        Barack Obama 1,747.5 — 39.55%

        move along now, nothing to see here.

      • joseyJ

        Poll: Obama struggling to win over Hillary supporters!

        http://www.newsweek.com/id/160423/page/1

        Hmm….wonder why?
        Just look at all the issues in this diary!
        Obama never apologizes and never takes responsibility!

        • Diana L. C.

          The only way for him to take responsibility is to admit to his out and out perpetration of caucus fraud and his purchase (though what we know as dirty money–just can’t at this point prove it directly) of superdelegates and of the DNC.

          He is NOT the Messiah–I am going for Dr. Faust

    • DAB

      Wonderful article by Dr. Long and Bill was awesome — so thoughtful in his assessments. He didn’t play the political game that they (especially Joy) wanted him to play and that makes me proud.

      With all of the problems we have now, we could have used the Clintons in there to help straighten the mess that the next President will face.

      I was happy to hear McCain say that he would like to have some Dems and Independents such as Cuomo and Bloomberg in his Cabinet. We need all of the best hands on deck now to struggle with what is yet to come.

  • yttik

    You go Dr. Long! I suspected Bill Clinton was referring to that article when he was on the View. Smart man to read your articles, LOL! Congratulations.

    And Susan, that was so wonderful the way Bill Clinton spoke respectfully about voter’s choices. How refreshing in the face of 18 mos of personal attacks. OMG, you mean I own my own vote? You mean I have a right to research and make my own choices? Well I’ll be darned!

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Isn’t that neat, Yttik. He really understands people. But it’s not a cynical understanding. He truly CARES about and RESPECTS how other people think and make decisions. (As opposed to the liberal elites or arch-conservative elites who look down their noses at everyone who doesn’t agree with them.)

      I’ll never forget how I felt @ 2000. I just wished we could vote for four more years of Bill Clinton. Our world and country would be so vastly different, it’s impossible to imagine.

      Then there’s how we’d all be faring if the candidate WHO REALLY WON had gotten the Democratic nomination!

      Hillary’s speeches, interviews, and writings this week bring home just how vastly superior she is in her grasp of our economic crisis, as well as the practical steps to take. (And she talked about this — very specifically — in her campaign speeches throughout her run.)

      The Democratic party should hang its head in shame for how it’s treated these two gifted people.

      • sjc-tx

        The Democratic party should hang its head in shame for how it’s treated these two gifted people.

        Indeed… Susan. Indeed.

      • DAB

        I agree. When Bill first began his campaign for President, he spoke to people as equals, taking pains to explain his policies and plans. Hillary did the same and showed a respect for the dignity and integrity of the voter.

        Obama — not at all — more like “I know best, and don’t sweat the details”. Yuck!

    • kenoshaMarge

      Yeah you do. At least Bill Clinton thinks you do. Not so much with that harridan Joy Behar who suddenly seems to be every where they will have her spewing her venom. She is exactly the kind of woman Madeline Albright was talking about.

      And I agree with everything Dr. Long said and I too have now become a Gynocrat. Gender trumps all for me until we have enough women in the process to make gender unimportant.

  • Steven Mather

    I have read Lynette Long’s letter three times after it was posted on her site. It rings truer each time.

    Bill is aging into wisdom. The presidency is a crucible, wherein untenably complex problems necessarily receive responses that are in some way insufficient or inapt. In that crucible all of the actions that make an event, and the president’s actions, shape the outcome of the event and shape the president. His post-presidency actions indicate that the events and responses to thise events, mistaken and otherwise, have shaped him well.

    • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

      He’s got a ways to go before he’s our “Best Ex-President” but he sure as Hell is off to a fast start.

    • Jackie

      Dr. Long spoke at McCain’s rally in Fairfax Virginia. Her words rang so true for me and my Daughters. Her point was valued and welcomed the crowed roared for her. It was a great day to be a woman.

  • Judy L. NC

    Just watched the video and, no, Bill didn’t tug on his clothes one time. I also noticed and am annoyed that Whoopi was dolled up, well, as much as she can doll up, for Bill when she wore jeans for Mac and Cindy. I’m afraid I’ve officially gone paranoid…help me, please!

    • morganjane

      Please explain the tugging on his clothes thing, did someone say he did?

      • Judy L. NC

        Jay Leno did a very funny riff on Obama tugging like a nervouse school boy while on that show. I don’t know how to reference a Youtube, but I’m sure you could search Youtube for “Leno Obama The View” and see it.

      • Jackie

        When Obama was on the view he couldn’t hold still and kept tugging on his clothes in the extreme.

    • mcpalin hill

      Judy L — I noticed that too. Suddenly Whoopie was dressed up for Bill Clinton after she looked like gutter trash when Senator McCain visited the program. Bill Clinton understands what Obama the Arrogant One ignores. When he hurt Hillary and Sarah Palin he hurt all Democratic Woman voters in the most profound way. In my opinion, Bill Clinton is with us on the issue of gender parity and he secretly supports McCain/Palin too. At least there is someone left in the Democratic Party to take over after Obama loses and there is a big shakeup within the party.

    • mimi

      FYI (and not in defense of Whoopi.)

      She is being forced to dress like a woman all week as part of a bit they ‘re doing for the show. I think Elisabeth is doing a series of makeovers on Whoopi.

      And she’s not enjoying it either.

      • yttik

        Ahh…. well that’s fitting punishment for Whoopi, LOL.

      • Judy L. NC

        LOL See? I knew paranoia was rearing its ugly head! I apologize for misspellings in earlier post–I’ll often reply too hastily when riled up.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Great article…..great clip of Clinton, too!!!

    That’s a keeper!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

      Well I am glad the O Team finally got the MEMO that we love the Clintons and until they can put up a candidate that can eliminate the deficit and leave a surplus…they had just better back up and leave BILL alone.

      We love Bill and Hill!

  • http://budwhite.wordpress.com/ Bud White

    Brilliant article. The sexism from Obama’s supporters (and the media) make it impossible for me to vote for him. She captures our feelings perfectly.

  • Perry Logan

    If the Democrats were real men, they would have defended Hillary. Democrats have no spine in defending their own.

    • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

      Amen.

  • morganjane

    This post has me in tears, it is the best yet! After what Obama and the DNC did to Hillary, I was already voting for McCain… when he put Palin on the ticket it was a real eye opener on what a great man and leader John McCain will be. John McCain is telling the truth when he talks about how Hillary was passed over and treated unfairly, it is not for politcal reasons. Hillary calls John McCain a great friend, and he is! Palin is more qualified than Obama and she is the only one that knows what is like to be a woman, and in my opinion, she is every woman… not Obama, she has been it all. Bill Clinton speaking of John McCain pushing for normalization with the vietemess was also powerful, something I knew but Bill has a way of saying things!

  • georgiapeach

    Given the worshipful way that Nancy Pelosi talks about Barack Obama, the thought of him in the White House scares me to death. The blank check that she would give him would make the Bush abuses look benign by comparison. I have much more in common with Sarah Palin than just gender, but I feel no affinity with Obama.

    • kneec29

      I don’t think Pelosi and the other dems would give Obama a blank check. My opinion is they would be on the receiving end of the blank checks. I truly believe they would feel, or have, direct entitlement to anything they wanted. They would be the POWER. I can see no other reason for them wanting him to be president.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    I’m just stunned that shows like the View are given that much credibility. If you base your vote on what you see on a tabloid daytime TV show…oh God, maybe Ann Coulter was right, women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Only in America can someone who watches Oprah, the View, and Ellen be considered informed voters. PS Barky is not sexy. He’s skinny, has a big mouth, big teeth and huge feet. Add a gaffaw laugh and you’ve got Goofey. And frankly, I think Goofey would make a better president than Barky.

    • wodiej

      omg…LOL…I agree on all counts. But some women think a man is hot just because he has a penis, nothing else is required.

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        Barky has a penis? I thought Michelle pulled a Bobbit on him the day they were married. She had it made into a necklace to match her $600.00 earrings.

    • Liz B

      I am beginning to believe that some of us PUMA women, and maybe women like Elisabeth Hasselbeck and even (GULP) someone like Ann Coulter should start our own Talk Show for Women who have different viewpoints, and are treated with equal respect. Wow! Wouldn’t that be a novelty? Liberal women aren’t the only ones with an opinion worth sharing.

      • notodisenfranchisement

        Great idea Liz.

        I think about how Hillary helped in the Irish peace process and brought the women of the two warring factions together.

        Women could work it out – so that idea would be very interesting.

    • mimi

      You forgot big ears. And that’s the most important because I understand he’s real sensitive about them. I never miss an opportunity to talk about his humongous ears. I think we all should.

      • Paz

        Big Ears? Might he be a Feringi disguised as human?

  • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

    I’m a hardcore male feminist (paradoxes intended) and I fervently hope we can somehow get more women into positions of power. Women generate new ideas, new processes– they may not always be better but then just about anything would be an improvement over the testicle driven policies of the Bush Administration. Obama would pursue the exact same kind of hard-dick doofus lines that Bush pursued: “I know what is best for you, shut-up and let me rule.”

    We need consensus builders not consensus ruiners.

  • wodiej

    oh my…excellent post…wow…this one chokes me up.

    While there are still alot of women of all ages and groups who are oblivious to being enslaved by their gender, many of us are not. There is also an expanse of the female population who have not discovered their gender independence but are strong enough and willing to do so.

    I said it before and I’ll say it again…the day John McCain named Sarah Palin his Vice President running mate, HE WON THE ELECTION.

    • kneec29

      I don’t think it necessarily won him the election but it didn’t hurt. That remark doesn’t give women enough credit. Women have more intelligience than vote for a person just because of gender. Women vote for a person that has something between their ears, not something between the legs. I do believe that we put our country before our special interests. I have never really met too many women that put themselves first.

  • clik212

    Thanks for the article. Excellent, I too am voting McCain/Palin for the very same reasons.

  • sjc-tx

    Bill Clinton is a VERY wise and INTELLIGENT man. It is obvious he is not thrilled about obama. But he has the ability and decency to speak in such a way that says it respectfully. He in no way was shilling for obama. But listen closely… he IS saying McCain is the better choice and WOUULD BE a great President.

    I will never tire of hearing Pres Clinton speak. HE is a true philosopher and ORATOR!

  • http://www.missmalevolent.com Miss Malevolent

    Boy…what a damn waste.

    One thing about it, I’m glad Bill Clinton’s support is measured at best. Unfortunately, I wish Hillary was as careful as he is because her “full throated” support of Barack is irritating to me.

    I don’t like Barack because he’s a liar and a phony. I have zero faith he would do ANYTHING he promises to do. And since February I’ve felt the man was nothing but the Democrat version of George W. Bush Jr. And what is even more frightening is the thuggish strong arm tactics his campaign/surrogates/alcolites have used during the primary and election season, will only increase if he’s made President and has all those powers that George W. Bush Jr. shored up for himself.

    We’ve already had one megalomaniac at the helm for eight years we’re on the verge of electing another one…with EXPANDED power…given what they’re doing now ILLEGALLY what do you think they’ll do when they have the power of the government behind them with LEGAL authority?

    • mcpalin hill

      miss malevolent–Here is why I believe McCain is going to win despite the media, for whom Obama is nothing more than a good story.

      Palin has Right Wing Republicans pumped–and Republicans vote. More Republicans support McCain than Dems support Obama.
      The Independents are trending McCain because they see that Obama is too inexperienced to handle the Presidency. Obama has lost the support of too many Democratic Women. The party is split. Except for the media and Celebrities most Democrats are not thrilled by Obama. Also, he can’t make up what he loses in Senior and Boomer voters — with young people and AA’s. Then there is the electoral map which has favored Republicans since the 60′s. Only Carter defied that electoral map — because of Watergate and Clinton because Ross Perot took votes from Bush Sr.

      Then there is the Bradley Factor–which will take a significant number of votes from Obama.

      This is why the attacks against McCain by the Obama Campaign are so pointed. He knows that McCain has what he can never have and that is gravatis.

    • Deep Truths

      Bill is the ballast for Hillary in the wild ride of the Democratic Titantic.

      Bill is not the leader of the Democratic Party, Hillary is one-half the leadership of the party. Dean, Reid, Pelosi, and Obama are the other half. Therefore, Hillary has to be FOR the Democratic party…if not appear to be for the Democratic nominee.

      Its like a bacon and egg sandwich – the chicken is involved, the pig is committed. Bill is involved, Hillary is committed.

      Once the McCain-Palin tickets wins in November, Hillary will be in the position to either clean-up the vagrants, or mutiny and gut the Titanic and start anew.

  • sjc-tx

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-KWVGP1e0M

    Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin

    • mcpalin hill

      sjc-tx — I love Bill Clinton. He is the conscience of us all.

  • hootnannie

    My opinion is that an X chromosome is the only thing MS. STEINEM has in common with most women. Most of us believe there are more important things to worry about than the unfettered freedom to get abortions, practice passive infanticide, and conduct libertine lives free of religious sanction.

  • mcpalin hill

    Bill Clinton loves and admires John McCain because John McCain sacrificed himself for this country in a way that Bill or Barack never did. He also understands why so many Americans will vote for McCain, even though it might go against our economic interests.

    He also settled for me why I will vote for McCain. We are engaged in 2 wars. I see our soldiers come home after being horrifically injured having made huge sacrifices for our country. There lives will never be the same however, like McCain they can go on to do great things. I want these soldiers to see that the best part of their lives is still ahead of them. If anyone ever deserved to be honored — its a man who was tortured for 5-1/2 years. If ever a man paid his dues to be President its John McCain.

    Bill Clinton honors John McCain for his service and so do I.

  • McHope

    Absolutely love to hear Bill speak.

    Sadly, as said above, his appearance with these awful women only further illustrates the terrible manner in which they treated the McCains. Disgraceful is not a strong enough word.

    Nevertheless, it was wonderful to hear another credible person stating their respect and admiration for John McCain.
    See what Obama has said. You’ll be surprised after his week long ongoing rant that McCain is not a reformer.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrSjtdfc_I

    • mcpalin hill

      McHope — Now Obama is copying McCain. This shows how desperate he is and how clear it is that he will not.

  • wac for hillary

    I had always believed that the feminist movement supported a woman’s right to be whatever she wanted to be–homemaker, businesswoman, military member, etc. Each time a feminist leader attacks Sarah Palin, I realize that I don’t know what these people want, other than to impose their personal beliefs on me.

    As someone who entered the Army, served in an organization (the Women’s Army Corps) separate from the Regular Army, then endured and survived the integration of the Corps into the RA, I know about dealing with sexist crap.

    Given what Obama and his thugs (male and female) have done to Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, I am at a complete loss as to why I need anything from the current feminist movement, especially since they are supporting Obama. So, I will continue to vote for who I think will do the best job for this country, without regard for race, sex, sexual orientation, or party. My presidential vote will be going to McCain and Palin; I believe they are our best hope at cleaning up the mess in Washington.

  • mimi

    “She told me how disappointed she was in me for making such a stupid request. Obama was on the “right” side of the issues. Why did it matter whether men or women legislated those issues?”

    This is what 0bama brings out in people. Any ideal that you value, any respect you have for yourself and your personal belief system, everything you hold dear must be discarded just to get him elected.

    AAs like myself are labeled ‘Uncle Toms’ or worse, because we stand up for the right to our one vote in a democracy. We’re told by Michelle 0bama: “We don’t get it.”

    Really?

    Women are openly mocked and dismissed regarding any gender concerns. 0bama has unashamedly ignored Hillary’s female supporters. He might as well have spit on us. Symbolically, he has.

    And worse, 0bama’s sins in this regard are being upheld by legions of docile, blind, brain-washed supporters who have in unison shed their dignity before the American public.

    Gloria Steinham? Of course she has nothing in common with Palin. Sarah represents everything Gloria held in contempt. Gloria wanted no part of the joys of motherhood which she saw as “breeding in captivity.” Sarah sees motherhood as an expansion of the highest female ideals: woman as nurturer and active keeper of civilization. Palin did not flee the big bad patriarchal wolf. Instead, she renegotiated it on her terms so that she could could take advantage of the opportunities that modern women now have.

    And for that, she’s being excoriated by the very women who fought for the rights that Sarah now enjoys. I’d like to know who these so-called feminists were fighting for?

    They fought for women like Palin as long as they shut up and stayed in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. The same elitist attitude that 0bama literally reeks of has always been alive in the feminist leadership who quietly looked their noses down at poor/working class women and treated them with the ‘paternalistic’ attitude of the downtrodden, ignorant masses who must be protected from domestic abuse, sexual violence and governments who won’t write these women checks.

    Sarah flies in the face of all that and reveals how much women can really accomplish with a supportive husband, extended family, and the grit and intelligence to go out into the world and compete.

    I agree with Dr. Long on this: that little girls will see Palin as what is possible for them. Sure older adolescents who have already formed some political ideology perhaps will not. But her presence will encourage younger ones to see beyond the daily media onslaught to sexually objectify them.

    And that’s a good thing. Because clearly, we lost a whole generation of women who are not even smart enough to realize when they are being insulted.

    • mcpalin hill

      Mimi — Great comment. I think younger women get it. They have ignored Feminism and being objectivied and did it their way. For a lot of them Sarah Palin represents that freedom to have their babies and accomplish their goals.

      I supported Steinem when I was young but now I see how antiquated her thinking was. In her opinion you could only get ahead in life if you never gave up your goal–never got married or had children. If you gave in to a man you would lose your ability to have your own dreams. Sarah tells us all is possible–with love and energy and a supportive man by your side.

      • K. Wynne

        Indeed, Sarah is fortunate to have a supportive husband, which was key to her success.

        Unfortunately, many women don’t have that advantage and are either forced to take the back seat in order to appease a controlling husband, or they leave the controlling only to become a single mother, who has to work 2 jobs just to keep her head above water.

        If we’re lucky, through Sarah’s example, men will learn that a man supporting his wife does not in any way diminish them as men. Todd Palin certainly doesn’t look diminished to me!

        Sarah has proven that a woman can have it all, just like a man. Sadly, those earlier feminist who were told they couldn’t have it all and would have to make sacrifices are feeling cheated and, as a result, are taking it out on her.

    • sjc-tx

      Billiant mimi! Brillant!

    • LindaA1

      I think it’s important that we start making a distinction between far-left feminists and moderate feminists. And perhaps we should even consider that there are conservative feminists – like Sarah Palin.

      I am a moderate feminist and a centrist Democrat. I worked full-time for the feminist movement (unpaid) from 1969 to 1976 and have never stopped advocating for the rights of women.

      I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY PLACE IN THE FEMINIST RANKS to those on the far-left who are creating another backlash with their appalling attacks on Sarah Palin. And I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY without a fight to restore it to the great honest advocate for women and the people that it once was.

      The place to start is with a vote for McCain-Palin – a vote not for their positions and policies, but a vote to deprive the far-left from achieving their goals using means that violate and destroy every principle we have fought for.

      • mimi

        LindaA1,

        Politically speaking you are right. But the attacks against Palin from these far left women illustrates the weaknesses and problems in the Movement, especially from the high-profile leadership.

        The attacks have been disgraceful precisely because they have not been idealogically-driven. I really think that Palin exposed their sense of entitlement to OWN feminism from the left wing philosophy. Bill Maher actually stated uncategorically on tv that Palin wasn’t intelligent. Huh?

        The many implications of such an attack are staggering. In other words, the people of Alaska are stupid. Since when do Americans call other Americans from a particular geographical location stupid because their physical geography dictates a different way of life than say living in NYS?

        It’s also an insult to all governors. People are suggesting that it doesn’t take much to become or be a governor of an American state. Is that why Americans have elected far more governors than senators as POTUS?

        I love the response to Susan Sarandon’s snide comment that “Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontious Pilate a governor.” Well, Hitler was a community organizer and FDR a governor.”

        There is no way to get around the fact that Palin touched into a nerve that doesn’t allow the so-called feminist to be able to at least stand up and say: Brava!” Then proceed to roll up their sleeves and get down to the fundamental differences of what she stands for politically.

        No woman who believes in feminist ideals should be caught dead attacking Palin’s experience, intelligence and her abillity to be a good mother and have a career, too. Let the men engage in that sort of attack. That’s to be expected coming from them.

        I respect your determination to not cede your ground as a feminist to these liberal nutjobs. The Movement is going to need women like you after this is over.

        But me, I left this Movement long ago for the same reasons that I have left the Democratic Party: hypocrisy, elitism, and lack of vision.

        If any of them want me back, they’re going to have to change their tune.

  • Objective analysis

    Everybody remember President Clinton’s remark of Candidate X and Candidate Y at the DNC convention.

    Hint Hint. PUMA 2008!

  • SJ

    Well Chris Rock did a nice call out on the Clinton’s on Letterman last night, when will the Clinton’s learn?

    It’s time for them to wake up black voters no longer need the Clinton’s support they have Obama now, I don’t know how much more hits will they take to get that point across to them, it really is sad indeed.

    • audacity

      did chris the rock call out puffy the ludicrus?!

      but he will save whoooopi from slavery

    • mimi

      SJ,

      Even if 0bama cheats to win this election, black voters have made themselves irrelevant after their behavior this election.

      First, we are no longer the majority minority, latinos are.

      Second, we don’t have the numbers to elect 0bama on our own. Obama needs every last one of the Clintons white supporters to win. Why is it that you Botheads refuse to realize this? It’s not racism, IT’S MATH, stupid!

      Once 0bama is defeated, no politician, not even black ones, especially ones with designs on a national career, is never going to make OUR issues, the cornerstone of their platform. Why should they? Especially after the way the AA community spit in the Clintons face over this biracial candidate who never did anything for them.

      Oh wait – he did let his own AA constituents freeze in rat-infested apts during brutal Chicago winters ownd by Rezko. 0bama did do that.

      The irresponsible way that 0bama has played the race card has re-invoked racial hostility and unrest. On Sunday here in Harlem, during the Annual African American Day Parade, Black Panthers precipitated an altercation with the NYPD.

      Earth-to-you-idiot AA supporters of 0bama who are threatening riots:

      The US has a 13 trillion dollar deficit and is on the verge of economic collapse.

      There is a War in Iraq costing 1 billion a week.

      New 0rleans, post-Hurricane Katrina has yet to be rebuilt. How many years is that? 3 and counting….

      So feel free to tear down your communities if this biracial fraud does not get elected.

      And wait for the American Government to find the money to rebuild them.

      Remember, you are on line after, economic bailout, the Iraq War, Hurricane Katrina, and Hurricane Ike….

      IT’S JUST MATH!

      And math is colorblind.

      • notodisenfranchisement

        hear, hear, Mimi!

      • mimi

        Oh and one more thing SJ:

        “Free your mind and your ass will follow!”

      • MTdob4Hillary

        Yep, It is the MATH, and I bet many 0bots are now wishing they had taken more Math when they were in school. Perhaps they can change that at semester time.

  • Liz B

    I loved this article. This should be a must read for all women and men everywhere. So well written, and kudos to Bill for always having the ability to pick up on the nuances, and to be so comfortable giving his opinion when it was obvious that these women did not want to hear those answers.

  • bayareavoter

    Thank you for posting this. I agree with so many of you. The world is upside down this year regarding the Dem Party and my feminist beliefs. I’m of the “burn the bra” generation and I am astounded at what happened this year in the Dem party.

    Isn’t Palin the ultimate feminist? She worked her way up from modest beginnings; has a great partner in business and parenting; fought for her principles; has a family AND a high-powered job.

    I don’t agree with her on some core issues but this is bigger than that. I’m embarrassed each time a woman I like personally or a famous woman I’ve admired does an elitist rant against her.

    And I watched Bill Clinton’s View clip twice. I believe he was giving explicit permission to Hillary’s supporters to vote for McCain.

    He NEVER says in any interview how great BO is; he always says why the Democratic agenda is superior. Not much of an endorsement I think.

  • Colleen

    What a great article! You have put into words my exact feelings. I, too, will be voting for McCain/Palin. I may not agree with all their positions, but I trust their judgment. John McCain will work across the aisle to make things better for all of us.

  • paddyJ

    A great article by Dr. Long. Just fabulous, and oh so true.
    And Bill is a truly great speaker. Thoughtful, smart and measured in his statements and delivery. I agree that even without saying it outright, you know by his delivery which choice he feels is best for America.
    Compare this to Barky (sorry, I’m not perfect, I can’t bear to type his “real” name) and his stentorian monotone shouting/lecturing delivery, always smirking and snide.
    What a phony.
    Go John! Go Sarah!

  • Vincent

    An important post Susan. Lynette Long – a wonderful article. SusanUnpc, Lynette Long, and Sarah Palin, are women of the all important, seriously needed, – Integrity. This life long independent male Democrat will also vote for McCain-Palin. Obama’s deranged, real character is a danger to us all.

  • Kevin

    i sent this in yesterday to SusanUnpc
    Good article on the Gibson interview

    An excerpt..

    Many of the questions posed by the liberal media to and about Sarah Palin are illegal in the American workplace to be asked of prospective female job candidates and would get a person asking these questions fired on the spot. “Who will take care of your children while you are working?” “Can you work here and be a good mother?” “Isn’t it a bit of hubris for you to think you are qualified for this job?”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122151334429138555.html

  • fred

    make phone calls for McCain-Palin 2008. Please signup . We are asking for your help to call undecided voters from across the country and tell them why McCain Palin 2008 is the right choice for America.
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    • Jackie

      Seriously McCain Office welcome all comers! Find you local office and drop in there is always a task to be done.

      I did. Now I go every Wednesday for 3 or 4 hours. I have fun and I feel like I am making difference for the nation.

  • D Grace

    An excellent article I wish more women could read this and see how dismissive he is to women and especially Hillary supporters. The Trillion dollar guestion is if he is elected will he appoint any women in his cabinet. I doubt the women who work for him now are there for one reason and one reason only and that is to help him get elected then they will be discarded .They will be missing in action.

  • Paul3triple

    Roll the commercial McCain campaign!!!
    See, that is why i love bill. He told it like it is and i was brutally honest right there.
    The obama camp has to be mad.
    It is funny to because we all think Dick Morris is a hog. However, he predicted months ago when Bill said “i am not a racist”. It was the end of june.
    Morris said hillary will throw her full support behind obama. Bill will run around laying stink bombs.
    That is what bill does. Except for the convention he makes sure his words are open ended and can be interperted in a political way. Obama has to be mad after that!! Especially, after those women were so nasty with John and cindy last week.
    Hillary should play it like bill is.
    Big Dawg is a beast.

    • Rob in Chicago

      Paul3triple:

      I didn’t (couldn’t bear to) watch the Democratic mock convention, but I had heard that the producers of that convention chose the song “Addicted to Love” by Robert Palmer to play as President Clinton left the podium. I have searched GOOGLE, and I’ve seen a few articles mentioning this insult. I’ve also seen other postings claiming that it was a U-2 song, “A Beautiful Day” that played as Bill Clinton left the stage. Did anyone in NQ land have the intestinal fortitude to watch the Democratic pretend convention, particularly the speech made by Bill Clinton (I would have loved to hear Bill, but I was afraid the crowd would boo him, and I would throw something at my TV) and can confirm which musical number was played as President Clinton left the stage ?

      • Rob in Chicago

        I just got the answer to my question above. Actually, both songs were played. U-2′s “A Beautiful Day” played as Bill Clinton walked away from the podium at the Democratic Con-Convention, and as soon as he was offstage and out-of-sight, the DNC stooges played Robert Palmer’s “Addicted to Love.” From the audience reaction (including Hillary) nobody missed the intentional disrespect of the last two successful two term Democratic President since FDR.

    • mcpalin hill

      Paul

      The big dawg biteth. Obama has too much money and not enough sense to see that by attacking Bill Clinton offended the King. He can’t bribe, charm or threaten Bill — he has made a powerful enemy who will damn him with faint praise. Subtlety is something that is lost on Obama.

  • Gayle in Oregon

    Great, thanks!

  • Bugs Bunny

    Fantastic post. I thank you for it.
    I will use these statements of fact when I am confronted by those KoolAid drinkers within my clan who try to argue with me over my support of Mccain this election cycle.

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    GOP Pollster: McCain Will Win

    http://patriotroom.com/?p=2300

    • Shiloh

      The best quote from this article:

      “Obama is ideologically closer to the six unsuccessful Democratic presidential candidates of the last 40 years—McGovern, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore, Kerry, Dukakis — than he is ideologically aligned to the two successful Democratic presidential candidates, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter,” Conway says.

      “Obama is more radically more left wing than any of those 6 losers. I also don’t recall Dukakis having terrorist friends, or Mondale going to a racist church for 20 years, or Gore doing real estate deals with felonious Syrian real estate goons.”

    • mcpalin hill

      bill dupray — Good for Kelly Ann Conway. I think Hannity knows this too but he is afraid that over confidence will keep voters from going to the polls.

  • LizfromFL

    Thanks very much for the article, it is right on the mark. I was disgusted early in this campaign about the silence among men and women in our own party regarding the treatment of HRC and now Palin. My vote will definitely go for McCain/Palin.

    I have friends, though, who just don’t see that aspect. I think they are under the mistaken impression that women are “beyond all of that” And then, of course, they pull out the same “but how can you vote for McCain?” Speaking honestly, I am voting McCain for two reasons: I will not vote for Obama and since one of them will be our next President, I am voting for the person I believe has character and integrity.

    My Mom and aunt are a different story. They are both long-time Democrats and they don’t realize you can’t believe the news media anymore. They hear all the great stuff about Obama and all the bad about McCain and especially Palin. They are 84 and 82 but they are both sharp as ever. But, after they hear me talk about Obama, they say now they just won’t vote. They can’t bring themselves to vote for McCain. I’m afraid there are a lot of people out there who feel the same way. If it comes to pure “getting out the vote” that’s the only thing I’m afraid of.

    • mimi

      LizfromFL,

      Tell them what Donna Brazile said:

      “Message to base: Stay home!”

      And see if there is a clip on youtube of Brazile talking on CNN about how 0bama doesn’t need the Democratic base because of all of these new voters.

      And then remind them, very gently, about how the right to vote is the foundation of democracy. And that it is a privilege not to be taken for granted.

      Also show them a clip of Bill Clinot saying McCain is a “good man.”

  • Cahil

    Very nice article, Dr. Long.

    My wife and I have long said that the undoing of Hillary would not come from men, but women unwilling to stand up for themselves and believe the wanna-be-men like Steinem, Huffington, Jong and Dowd. For whatever reason, they seem threatened by strong women who are women not trying to be men.

    It is a crime in this country that we are still debating Roe, parity for pay, or whether a woman could be president. After Bush, one would think a monkey could do the job. Of course the above mentioned women would want it to be a male monkey.

    I’ve seen no evidence that Gov. Palin legislates her personal beliefs, only that she lives them. If anyone has evidence to the contrary I’d like to see it.

    • K. Wynne

      Sorry Cahil. Women didn’t do this to Hillary all by themselves. The DNC patriarchy led the way and a willing society filled with men who humiliate any woman who sticks up for another.

      Whether you realize it or not, women are taught from a very early age to appease men and not to rock the boat and to go along, otherwise, they will be ostracized by the men in their lives. That mentality still exists in a greater degree that many of us Hillary supporters believed.

      Until society gets as outraged over sexism when it occurs, as they now do over racism, this kind of women vs. women mentality will continue.

      However, I do believe that the treatment of Hillary Clinton during the Primary has awakened a sleeping giant! Women everywhere are waking up to the reality that we are still considered second class citizens by the majority of men who control most of the power in our society.

      I think change is coming and coming soon.

  • Carol

    “If Democratic women wait for the perfect woman to come along, we will never elect a woman. We have to seize opportunity where it presents itself. Besides, the Democratic Party is no longer my home. I have no home, but this election I will make my bed somewhere else.”

    Dr. Long’s article explains exactly the reasons why I am voting for McCain/Palin. I am not worried that the McCain/Palin ticket will try to undermine Roe v. Wade.

    We need to break through those 18 m. cracks in the glass ceiling and bring it down.

    I find it very telling that John McCain’s staff has more women than men and he pays the women more that he pays the men; whereas, Obama’s staff is just the opposite. I also find it very telling that Dr. Long and a group of Clinton supporters spoke directly to John McCain about picking a women as his running mate and he respectfully listened but that was not the case with the Obama people. To me that meeting alone shows that John McCain has a lot of respect for women.

    “As Madeleine Albright said, ‘There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.’”

    (emphasis mine).

    I wholeheartedly agree!

    • Vincent

      Things are often not what they seem and not what one would attribute to leaders and politicians. Regardless of their motivations, I am saddened that both Madeline Albright and Hillary Clinton support Obama.

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        I disagree, they both support the Democratic nominee who happens to be the twit, Obama. And that’s only luke warm support at best.

    • mcpalin hill

      carol — you are so right. When we break that glass ceiling — we can be whatever we want to be and we will get the respect we deserve. Thanks to Hillary and Palin that ceiling is about to shatter and those who are standing under it — like Obama better get out of the way.

  • Sassy

    Touching and fabulous! Thank you!
    “I have no home, but this election I will make my bed somewhere else”.
    That is firm, courteous, and speaks of hope for a different outcome in the future!
    I respect Gov. Palin and she will make us proud!

  • notodisenfranchisement

    ya think that the media might research who Bill Clinton was referencing when he said a psychologist from D.C…

    and discover that she’s a PUMA!

    • karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)

      Yep, that is the most important part of this clip. That he read this article and thought enough of it to quote that part. It is heartwarming to know he read the rest of the article, and surely Hill did as well.

      Also, it is just such an amazing thing to see the true progressives, feminists and high information voters who were appalled by the undermining of our democracy by voter theft – support the candidate with the dreaded (R) after his name.

      Such a revolutionary year and paradigm shift.

  • untilthelastdogdies

    Thanks for re-posting Dr. Long’s article Susan! It was excellent the first time, and it’s still right-on-the-money!

    I’m looking forward to it being trotted-out yet again the morning of November 4th! IMHO, her observations will stand the test of time.

    Yes, The Big Dawg was making his usual keen observations during his appearance on The View. Like many others, I was upset with the way he was maligned in the primaries, but I am always cognizant of his inter-personal skills. He is gifted with the ability to repair his reputation whether it be damaged by his own hand, or by his many detractors (both in and out of the Democratic Party).

    Quite simply, people who are not in possession of his skills hate him for it.

    As for Chris Rock, I can’t help but laugh…

    Remember his routine a few years back that made fun of Republicans for always saying “It’s all Clinton’s fault”?? It was hilarious!

    It’s sad that I now will be anticipating the same routine reduxxxxxxxxxx when Obama loses…you got it… ” It’s all Clinton’s fault”

    • audacity

      good memory

  • mcpalin hill

    notodisengfranchisement — I’m sure that Bill Clinton reads No Quarter. He knows we’re here and he knows we love Hillary.

    • notodisenfranchisement

      yup, I’m sure Bill Clinton reads our PUMA sites too. I know he tries to hide it, just as sometimes I try to hide it among my liberal friends, but we just can’t totally pull it off:

      –our respect for McCain, we do not believe he is McSame
      –that we do not attack Palin on personal or sexist terms, and we defend her against outright lies
      –that we love Hillary
      –that we can hardly bring ourselves to talk about the Fraud or laud him in any way that seems genuine.

      All the hallmarks of being a PUMA or Mccain Democrat.

  • audacity

    i hope that 80% of hispanics will turn CA REDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • Lucinda

    This clip is why I like Bill Clinton. No, he’s not a perfect man. Yes, he’s made mistakes, but he’s a gracious man. It’s too bad that our media and other celebrities can’t behave with as much dignity as Bill did on The View.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    She knows that once you get to work you have to speak twice as loud and twice as often to be heard and work twice a hard to go half as far.

    That is very true. But the worst part is that it breeds FEMALE BULLIES. Women end up being promoted not because of their knowledge and professional skills, but because of their Bullying abilities.

    I have witnessed it.

  • Scully

    Wow. He’s so good.

    BILL FOR MCCAIN! :-)

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    McCain should put the last part of that interview into a video ad.

    Yes Dems, it’s OK TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE RACIST.

  • Diana

    Fantastic article, I just had to go and read all the front page articles from the blog. Thank you very much for the link! I found the “What they really think” article facinating as we’re now seeing this in a lot of Obama supporters. They’re pretending to be religious. Have this newfound deep respect for Hillary. Admiration. They just can’t get past that last part though. ;)

    If each die-hard Obama supporter could convince even one disgruntled HRC supporter that he or she respects Hillary Clinton, it just might help secure this election. Even if you still don’t like HRC, consider yourselves citizen-patriots, suck it up, and do your part to save our country. And fast, please.

    http://www.lynettelong.com/

    They loose it. Their heads explode.

  • Mandelay

    Great article, Dr. Long. I share your feelings about “Our party…” and the way it has said one thing about women and then went on to “do” another thing. It is outrageous that the Democrats have not tried repeatedly to create tickets with women either heading up the ticket or taking the v.p. slot. No action taken on this since Gerry Ferraro. It feels like a betrayal, particularly in a year when the party seemed to be determined to nominate an “African-American male” no matter what. I say this because conventions are booked way ahead of time. It is no coincidence that Barack Obama’s acceptance speech “just happened” to fall on the anniversary of MLK’s “Dream” speech. That alone should show it was all planned out and set up from the get go. This year really turned everything upside down for me. From now on, I vote with the understanding that no party has “ownership” of women’s issues. Never again.

  • American Woman

    Thank you Susan and Dr. Long, the article brought tears to my eyes remembering the horrible treatment Hillary endured during the primary and how the DNC has treated and reacted to the sexism. You both have a gift for putting into words how the Hillary Dems feel and felt…I too was going to vote for John McCain but I was so excited when Sarah was picked for VP…there is nothing we can do about the Democratic Ticket this year..but we can help Sarah break the glass ceiling once and for all..and it would not have been possible without Hillary and women like you two and the strong men who supported Hillary Clinton…

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    A couple of weeks ago Bill and Obama had a heart-to-heart, aka “save my ass”. The deal was done.

    The magic six weeks has begun and Big Dog is fully online 24/7 for the Obama camp.

    Yesterday it was The View, tonight he does his magic on Larry King, and tomorrow it will be Letterman.

    How long before we see the diary entry entitled “Fuck Bill Clinton” on No Quarter?

    May the circle be unbroken for surely we are about to come round it.

  • Rat-a-tat-tat

    Bill Clinton rocks! Obama can only sit back, watch and hope, hope to be schooled by Bill! Also heard Chris Rock’s comments to which I say: I wouldn’t be on a first name basis with anyone who accused me of being a racist either. Loved the way Letterman did not take the bait.

  • Mandelay

    Bill Clinton on Greta tonight for those watching Fox.

  • Monet

    “I respect Gloria Steinem’s right to support the presidential ticket of her choice but she is openly trying to derail Sarah Palin’s historic candidacy. As Madeleine Albright said, “There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.”

    Does Dr. Long realize Madame Albright is supporting Senator Obama?

    I respect Ms. Steinem for choosing a candidate not based on gender or race, but instead based on balancing her political beliefs. I disagree with her where Senator Obama is concerned, but I would lose respect for her for basing her vote on only one criteria – gender. If a man based his criteria on gender and would only vote for a man no matter what the male candidate’s platform was because any man is better than a woman, that would be considered sexist. Expecting Ms. Steinem to vote for a woman candidate based on a woman candidate is better than any man, is sexist. Ms. Steinem holds liberal views, she has advocated and fought for those views on a national stage for decades. Turning against those views and voting for a woman who doesn’t hold the same views as Ms. Steinem would be hypocritical of Ms. Steinem.

    Ms. Steinem has the right of free speech to express her views where Governor Palin’s candidacy is concerned. If she believes Governor Palin is less than desirable as a candidate, I expect her to treat Governor Palin as she would any man she believed was an undesirable candidate. For her to do otherwise, is sexist. Ms. Steinem has shown courage in standing up for what she believes and going against the tide of popular public opinion (which is too often manipulated by lobbyists and the media). Very few people these days have the courage to go against popular opinion, to take the unpopular viewpoint and express it. I respect Ms. Steinem for doing so. Just as I respect Governor Palin for holding true to her conservative views. Asking either woman to go against their beliefs to vote for a woman who doesn’t hold their political beliefs just because the candidate is a woman is sexist and discriminatory.

    The last I time I checked, the women’s movement was about having equal footing with men, not making men less equal. Ms. Steinem believes in voting for a candidate based on more criteria than gender. Dr. Long believes the only criteria that should take precedence is gender: “If Democratic women wait for the perfect woman to come along, we will never elect a woman. We have to seize opportunity where it presents itself.” Dr. Long has missed what the soul and heart of equality is. Ms. Steinem hasn’t.

    I’m going to follow Ms. Steinem’s example and base my vote on more than gender and race. If I vote for Senator McCain, it will have nothing to do with Governor Palin but will be based on two criteria:

    1. I think he’ll screw up less than Senator Obama.
    2. I trust him more than Senator Obama.
    3. It’s a vote against the DNC and Senator Obama.

    If I don’t vote for Senator McCain and instead vote for a third party or write in Senator Clinton’s name it will be because I couldn’t tolerate Governor Palin on his ticket. It won’t be because she’s a woman with conservative views. It will be because I decided her views were too extreme for me and firmly believe she doesn’t have the experience to be vice president, let alone president if she has to finish out Senator McCain’s term. If a male with her views and experience was on Senator McCain’s ticket and he would stop me from voting for Senator McCain, then I won’t vote for Senator McCain because the running mate is a woman. My decision will have nothing to do with her gender. My belief is the past fifty years have been about treating women and men equal – not giving either one a better position or discriminating against one based on gender.

  • benny

    The NYT. lol, what a reference! The refuge of the scoundrel. Whenever we question your candidate, cry racism. How pathetic!!! lol.

  • Kevin

    MLK was a Republican

    (wait for the bot’s wiring to short-circuit)

  • Kal

    Ok, so now BO’s tangled and incoherent speech and thought are all evidence of racism? Is there no end to the ways the race card will be played?

  • mimi

    There is absolutely no way to substitue the name MLK in any references to 0bama.

    King was clear about who he was: a black man fighting the injustice of segreation, racism , poverty.

    Who is Barack 0bama other than a slimy politician who merely wants to get elected? I know more AAs who have in their lifetimes contributed way more to the AA community than this biracial fraud who has the audacity to ride on the coattails of a Martin Luther King, Jr. And I’m speaking about AAs who weren’t really trying in any particularly organized way.

    0bama has done absolutely NOTHING for the black community. He holds himself up as a symbol for the desperate hopes and dreams of an AA community who would simply like to see a POTUS that looks like them, no matter what he stands for or believes in. The AA community naively believes that an AA president actualy has the power to transform their lives for the better. They simply ignore the US Constitution, the Congress and the fact that a POTUS has to govern and represent the interests of ALL the people, and that would include whites , latinos, Native Americans, Asians, Jews, children as well as memebers of the opposing Party.

    0bama measures his words not because he’s trying to escape the description of being an uppity negro, that horse left the barn when he opened it after the PA Primary when he called people “bitter and clinging to their religion.”

    Obama measures his words because he doesn’t have a good command of the issues without a script and because he has to make sure he always sounds black since, not having been raised among AAs, his natural speech pattern and lexicon more closley resembles the white people he was raised around and, God forbid, he would ever expose that, lest AAs realize that they’ve been duped by this fraud since he has NO RECORD of ever having done anything for the AA community.

    Whoever wrote this: nice try. Keep playing the race card for this post-racial candidate whose supporters fail to recognize the irony in that.

    Message to Botheads: you simply cannot guilt white America out of their right to vote for the candidate of their choice. This is a democracy.

    Tell your guy to try to win without using Harold Washington’s playbook on winning elections using racial politics.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Please pay us a visit on November 5th.

  • benny

    Your candidate is a fraud. We care for the truth, not about who we offend. Grow up, and open your eyes.

  • notodisenfranchisement

    we spent enough time enduring the abuse at Democratic Underground and DKos…worse was said about the Clinton and her supporters.

    we know how your ilk thinks…hypocritically.

    scram!

  • mcpalin hill

    sudarshan — Obama is too small for the Park he is playing in. When Obama grows into a real man we will respect him.

  • audacity

    r u implying that is something wrong with alabama?!

  • Rob in Chicago

    Sudarshan:
    Children (perhaps like you) do not understand or recognize the concept of fraud, dishonesty, authoritarianism and narcissism in a presidential candidate, but many of us here do see that clearly in your chosen candidate. Go ahead and vote for Sen. Obama if you wish; it’s your vote to do with as you please. We, in turn, own our votes as well, and we will vote in a way that, if possible, will cancel out your vote.

  • untilthelastdogdies

    FYI Junior, Gore won Pennsylvania.

    Were you not able to vote in 2000??

  • mimi

    Oh spare me the Michelle 0bama maudlin crap. Her dad was in with the Daley machine. He was a Precinct Captain. Her mother was SAHM. My mother had to work.

    I am disgusted by the number of AAs and whites doing 0bama’s bidding, carrying the water for this racist line.

    Even Woody Allen jumped on the bandwagon the other day with his “If 0bama doesn’t get elected it will be a disgrace!”

    Woody-freakin-Allen! The same Woody Allen who NEVER has any black people in his films or working on his set. The Purple Rose of Cairo had one black character and she was a maid.

    Oh please! All of you hypocrites STOP ALREADY!

    How about you people walk the walk! How very different this country would be if all of these 0bama-screaming white Botheads actually practised what they preach.

    Get this once and for all:

    OBAMA IS HALF WHITE!

    Maybe these white folks don’t like the part of him that’s half white. I’m sure that thought never occured to those who see racism at every turn.

    And Michelle is about as sour as they come in public with her perennial chip-on-the shoulder attitude. She has not shown one iota of graciousness that the role of First Lady requires.

    As much as I condemn George W. Bush, at least he showed the appropriate graciousness toward Bill Clinton over the last 8 years when necessary at public functions. And Bill and Hillary have been overtly harsh in their criticism of Bush.

    That’s what public figures do.

    If they wanted to heal Michelle’s image, along with the anger many whites felt over the Clintons being labeled racist, why not an amicable photo-op between her and Bill during the Convention?

    So fuck 0bama and his determination to act like butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth and for letting his supporters play the racist card in his name.

    He has done NOTHING to heal the rift between him and Hillary’s female supporters or the rift along racial lines.

    He is the candidate. He wants votes. Then it is HIS job to resurrect his own image.

    That he’s been unwilling to do that is very telling…. very telling indeed.

  • Judy L. NC

    I’m with you, benny…and didn’t the McCain campaign denounce the NYT just yesterday or the day before that it is no longer a legitimate news source?

  • bemused

    His white half is certainly insulting and disloyal to his white relatives, and I do hold that against him, having been brought up on the idea that a family should put up a united front to the world and show some respect to elder members.

    It is his job to get the votes and the craziest thing is all this juvenile expectation that somebody will just round them up and hand them to him. Like he had a very insular view of the world and expects that it is all going to be like whining at Grandma or pulling a lucrative deal in Chicago.