A Bit Of A Follow Up To Trumka And Palin *Open Thread*

Thanks, Amy.  Appreciated.  Love the tune.  Got annoyed reading about bobo’s Labor Day piggy buddy.  Again.  Here is a link to  Stuart Varney getting heated up today about Card check, and reporting the U.S. to the U.N. on organizing union.

Can we rename POTUS to POSUS?

Trumka has blood on his hands with the UMW. When speaking about Palin I can’t believe Trumka trotted out the word “violence” in this same discussion. Trumka, Stern et al., have no clue what this anomaly is called Sarah Palin. They have no clue how to approach her let alone discredit her. Trumka made an ass out of himself in the Palin vs. McCarthy analogy. They are scared to death of this thunderbolt from Wasilla, as well they should be. They are also coming to grips with the painful fact that they are going to get pounded in November 2010 with the final mopping up in 2012.

 
If one thinks election 2008 was bad i.e. NBPP, SEIU, UAW wait until the upcoming elections. I will not sit on the sidelines as I did in 2008 thinking someone will handle this. No one did and if anything this administration supported the NBPP intimidation activity. If it takes me to get out my Easton softball bat and hit homeruns running up to the mid terms, so be it. 2008 won’t happen again.
 
Trumka and Stern will do something IMO and its inevitable folks are going to get hurt in this process but when they start bussing purple shirts leading up to the mid terms or general election and into precincts as an intimidation tactic is when I get up out of the recliner.
  
The unions will not go down without a fight but this is a fight I’m willing to have as again IMO it will be inevitable.
 

Great job!  Now why don’t we make some of the authors from HERE read all this!  like say that john batchlor dude and maybe then HE can wake the hell up as well as the remaining enablers at No quarter  (non enablers not included)

Both of these clips warmed my heart and I appreciate the posting.  I got a similar feeling when Beck showed the picture of Sarah Palin praying before she went on stage at the rally.  Sarah Palin is one of those rare people who talk the talk and walk the walk.  She is a model of what a real Christian is.  Flawed but humble, obedient to God, courageous, forgiving and the type of person Edmund Burke was describing when he said “evil prevail when good men do nothing.” Being a Christian does not mean being a doormat either and Sarah Palin has definitely proven that.

She is proving to be quite effective and energizing for conservatives despite critics from Democrats and Republicans.

After that nasty post he did a few days ago I am showing my disapproval by just not posting on his threads.  I encourage others do the same.  This is a regular habit of his.

LOL…good one!

Like the song says…..line in the sand and you’ve crossed it…….Sucks to be you fat man.

What is that phrase the knee pad media are fond of using these days…..Oh Yeah…..OPTICS…

She is the real deal.

Perfect!

>:o

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O/T

RRRAmy,

A lot of the comments from the last Open Thread are missing, they end
at about 11.45 AM yesterday morning.  I posted on it this very morning
and had an exchange with Katmoon and now it’s all gone.

I checked YOUR last Open Thread and it is all scrambled up, the first
post is now the last.  I know because I was the first one in that parti-
cular thread.

Good night – got one of the great-grandaughter here with the chicken
pox since Thursday and I’m rather tired….

I`m not sure how many here have heard this story before but it reminds me of Palin:

A waterbearer in India had two large pots, one hung on each end of a pole, which he carried across his neck.

One of the pots had a crack in it. While the other pot was perfect, and always delivered a full portion of water at the end of the long walk from the stream to the master’s house, the cracked pot arrived only half full.

For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water in his master’s house.

The perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments, perfect to the end for which it was made. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.

After two years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream: “I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you.”

Why?” asked the bearer. “What are you ashamed of?”

“I have been able, for these past two years, to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your master’s house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don’t get full value from your efforts,” the pot said.

The water bearer felt sorry for the old cracked pot, and in his compassion he said, “As we return to the master’s house, I want you to notice the beautiful flowers along the path.”

Indeed, as they went up the hill, the old cracked pot took notice of the sun warming the beautiful wild flowers on the side of the path, and this cheered it some.

But at the end of the trail, it still felt bad because it had leaked out half its load, and so again it apologized to the bearer for its failure.

The bearer said to the pot, “Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of the path, but not on the other pot’s side?

“That’s because I have always known about your flaw, and I took advantage of it. I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back from the stream, you’ve watered them.

“For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate my master’s table. Without you being just the way you are, he would not have this beauty to grace his house.”

Moral: Each of us has our own unique flaws. We’re all cracked pots.

But it’s the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding. We’ve just got to take each person for what they are, and look for the good in them.

So sorry to hear abt your great-grandaughter, Breeze!  I hope she will be better soon.

Yes, things seem a bit messed up tonight.  I will pass along your comment to the Admin and see if we can get it cleared up.  So sorry for the missing comments!

Breeze, your comments are still there in the thread. They are at the start of the comments section between you and Kat. Here
Hope your ggdaughter feels better soon!

Nice catch Harp.  I wish someone had captured Sarah wiping away the tears as she sang along to Amazing Grace with the bagpipes.  Religous or not, to me, that moment encompassed the vein of the Restoring Honor rally. 

Obama is a cracked pot (crackpot, too). Do we have to keep him? I don’t think he’s watering any flowers…

SCAB defense from Rev Amy?  A new low…

Richard Trumka is a great American.  Once again, you do not know what you are talking about.  You have been consumed by right-wing talking points, and you will believe literally anything they want you to.  It’s a sad sight, Amy.

So why is Rahm sliding the shive into the UAW’s members?

Democrats plan political triage to retain House

WASHINGTON — As Democrats brace for a November wave that threatens their control of the House, party leaders are preparing a brutal triage of their own members in hopes of saving enough seats to keep a slim grip on the majority.
In the next two weeks, Democratic leaders will review new polls and other data that show whether vulnerable incumbents have a path to victory. If not, the party is poised to redirect money to concentrate on trying to protect up to two dozen lawmakers who appear to be in the strongest position to fend off their challengers.

One other thing about the geese flying over the pool one of the geese pealed off as if it were a missing man formation, AA told me about it as soon as she got home. You can no longer have flyovers at the capital its a no fly zone, so the geese filled in.

Trumka sounds more like McCarthy than Palin does.

what’s with the trouser legs?

I love the Dems crying how the Repubs are stopping all progress.  It’s the same crap the Repubs pulled when they had a majority.

The Dems have a super majority in both houses so if evey Repub voted no on every bill it would make no difference. 

What bothers me the most is the Dems think we’re too stupid to know that.

I also like the comment that the Dems are pouring money into various races.  Guess they can’t say anymore the Repubs are the party of the rich.  I doubt the poor are pouring the money into their political coffers.

If Trumka pig is what you consider a great American- I shudder to know what you consider the worst……………………

Very cool. Thanks.

“So why is Rahm sliding the shive into the UAW’s members?”

Are you saying that he should be sliding the shiv into UAV members?

“If Trumka pig is what you consider a great American- I shudder to know what you consider the worst……………………”

Those who conflate a slightly higher income tax with living under Nazi Germany come to mind…

So why is Rahm …there I made it consice and in bold so a poor sod with your level reading comphrehension can get it.

The only way you well ever know, Jackie if you wish to find out if you are living in Nazi Germany, is to get your “slightly higher” head out of your ass.

Do you know what the state of the German economy was pre- Hitler?

and besides, what is a UAV member?

“The only way you well ever know, Jackie if you wish to find out if you are living in Nazi Germany, is to get your “slightly higher” head out of your ass.”

So you think you’re living in Nazi Germany?

“and besides, what is a UAV member?”

Someone who types too fast.  Like me.  I guess I just founded a new club.

ich bin an diesem Ort leben.
Sie haben nicht meine Fragen beantwortet und Sie werden nicht in der Lage sein, die Probleme dieses Landes zu verstehen Gesichter, bis Sie bereit sind zu sehen, was jeder Ecke des Bildes sind. Sie sind engstirnig und krank.

Just checking…the V key is two rows and on a different finger from the W, so try another excuse.

Harp, Is that the road to Baghdad from Kuwait?

RRRAmy, I don’t know where my head is attached any more. I wish you God Speed regarding your procedure and healing. I feel it in my gut that you’re gonna be just fine Sweetheart. Warmly….Seymour
 

I’m sorry Rev Amy. Prayers, hugs, and best wishes to you. Guess I need a reminder now and then that I’m not the only person on the planet.

Palin 2012!

Caught a bit of Kaine on the Wallace show.  The Dems are floating their:  ”What are republicans for” line.  I hope they keep saying this.  It shows that they don’t get it (until it’s too late) that it is not so much being FOR Republicans as it is to stop the Democrats from continuing on the path to the country’s downfall.  Representatives can be un-elected in three years; some of the senators in another two years.  The country needs a pause to review everything in the works; repeal those that need to be repealed.

I was thinking the same thing–leaking on a rocky, seedless road.

Those were not styrofoam geese.  Talk about heavenly signs!

I hope that concerned citizens watch out for acorn-type election fraud.  Observers should be posted at all senior citizen facilities, especially for the disabled and infirm.  These are sources of fraudulent absentee ballots that could be collected by union members from patients/residents and votes cast without the knowledge of the registered voters.  And these could start way before election day.

GOP Vows to Ramp Up Investigations of Obama Administration If It Wins House
If Republicans regain control of the House in November, some have vowed to launch investigations into controversies that Democrats have tried to ignore, including the New Black Panther voter intimidation case and the activities of the community activist group ACORN.
“It’s very clear that House Republicans are going to use their oversight powers when they elected. There’s no question about it,” said GOP strategist Ron Bonjean who is a former Capitol Hill aide.

Another “redneck” checking in here.

As for trash like Janeane Garofalo, her opinions mean about as much as any other arrogant, ignorant liberal that mouths words about compassion and freedom and quite simply only care about people that agree with her fringe ideology. She is the perfect poster gal for all that is wrong with liberals.

It is “We The People“, Janeane not you the arrogant,unfeeling, condescending, bigoted and boorish.

I saw part of the Kaine interview too. It simply showed me that they have nothing but “talking points” to offer. That isn’t nearly enough.

Polls show that while the Dems are unpopular, so are the Republicans. By just bashing them the Dems don’t seem to “get” that the wave coming for them isn’t so much “for” Republicans as it is against the party in power and the whole arrogant politicial class that just doesn’t get that this country is Of, By and For the people. Not Of, By, and For the politicians of either party.

 A whole lot of people have finally had their eyes opened. Here’s hoping the eyes stay open, the anger is channeled into positive actions and the people take back our country from the political class. In fact the whole political class needs to be sent packing. Citizen legislators were the intent of the founders and that’s just fine with me.

Trumka is not a great anything! Corrupted by right wing talking points? B.S. Facts don’t have a right or a left you stupid troll. They simply are. The facts about thuggish Trumka show him for what he is. 

Being the “real deal” is what drives the left crazy. They don’t “like” the real deal. Most especially those that pray and help others.

Please watch this new grass roots video highlighting the ongoing environmental travesty at Cape Hatteras National Park Recreational Area.  Judicial overreach is killing the island economy.   Believing they are smarter than God, the Park Service is trapping and shooting thousands of “predators” (foxes, raccoons, etc.) for the ”benefit” of the handful of piping plovers that make it this far south to breed.    Yes, piping plovers are endangered in other parts of the country, but they are NOT native to North Carolina and they are classified threatened here.   Someone calculated that you can get closer to President Obama in the Oval Office from the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue than you can get to a piping plover chick on Hatteras Island. 

The Audubon Society has stated their goal is to turn the entire island into a bird sanctuary and it seems the Dept. of Interior is in their pocket.   As you might imagine, the Tea Party is alive and well on Hatteras Island. 

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/video/video.php?v=593797982139&ref=mf

I know most of these people.  I consider many of them friends.  Thanks for watching.  

The correct name is Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.

I can feel an Issa wind blowing!

A new poll also shows most citizens prefer a new GOP rep over an existing  democrat or republican or a new dem rep.

Pantyhose?

NO!vember
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/05/republicans-take-the-lead-in-ohios-governor-and-senate-races/

Thank you, Seymour – I appreciate that!  Thanks for the support!

LOL – no worries, Candymarl.  And thank you so very much!

These people are fools and should be ashamed.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/paul-krugman-and-tom-friedman-are-fed-up-obama-has-had-no-vision/

Excellent comment, Seymour.  That is exactly right.  “Hypocritical” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

The arrogance and condescension with which this man talks, especially abt Palin, is infuriating, on top of everything else.

Spot on!

Good follow up, Rev Amy. I was watching the news and I see that the NAACP now has their version of Mcarthyism going full force. I see the term being tosssed around alot, with many political hacks relying on revisionist history regarding this ugly past in our politics. as a little reminder-McCarthyism is the political action of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence.  I would suggest the cries of racism since the presidential campaign season have walked right on the edge of this definition; often racism/bigotry is a subjective term used as a political weapon(I like to think most people understand true racism). So what exactly is this new site associated with the Naacp, and I am curious if this site was dedicated to following the actions and behaviors of the NAACP, would the Justice Department step in and claim it was racist? Would the President just have to make one of his unsolicited comments and call for a beer summitt to discuss? Of course not, because in the world we live in today, the ultimate bigotry is being accepted that only one type of person is racist, anyone of any age, color, gender that does not agree with this administration is labled a racist, a bigot, etc. If that doesn’t smack of Mccarthyism, I don’t know what does; I believe this is a seriously foolish move on the part of the NAACP, and I don’t believe they will get what they are seeking, a backlash against the tea party movement, quite the opposite, this will hurt the Dems futher, once again showcase their ignorant, abuse ridden tactics to attempt to silence any oppositiion to whatever their platform is; ultimately making themselves the biggest jackass is the room labeled racism.

Source:  http://www.teapartytracker.org/

Regarding the segment with Sarah Palin applying the make-up to this fine gentleman, I watched it live and my only thought was: she has a kind touch, and genuine concern for what she is doing.

In Illinois, Trumka told UMW members to “kick the s**t out of every last” worker who crossed his picket lines, according to the Nashville (Ill.) News.
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Now if someone from management had said such a thing about striking union members, the gnashing of teeth and banshee-like wails that would emanate from the left would be deafening. There is nothing so revealing as selective indignation. Two-faced doesn’t even begin to describe Trumka although arrogant, ignorant, illogical, and pusillanimous certainly do the trick.

If not, the party is poised to redirect money to concentrate on trying to protect up to two dozen lawmakers who appear to be in the strongest position to fend off their challengers.
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Yeah, ~~JustMe~~, leave it to Pelousy to throw those who blindly supported her at their own political risk directly under the bus. She’s such a coward, tool, and fool.

Trumka is a thug who espouses violence, nothing more, nothing less.

The only thing leaking from Obama is urine which kills the flowers, kills the grass.

So will this be the “White List”?-seems our media is just as chicken now. Granted there are no loyalty oaths,yet there is no problem in using the same tactics-and both sides of the aisle have now used these same disgusting methods. The video is hosted by Walter Cronkite, well worth the watch.

Ain`t Islam great.

Pakistan: some Christians denied aid unless they convert to Islam

“We were overcome by waters and we lost everything,” said Zubair Masih. “We went to a refugee camp near Thatta, but they did not allow us to enter because we are Christians.”“My wife is sick, but the doctor refused to visit her and treat her, saying that we should wait for the World Health Organization to send Christian doctors,” said Abid Masih.“I arrived with my family at a camp near Hyderabad, but the camp administration refused to register us because we are Christians and they did not give us anything,” said Aamir Gill. “We were forced to leave.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2583932/posts

“What are Americans angry about? A hell of a lot – but the most important factor is the one Robinson can’t comprehend (Who’s the moron now?) – Obama and the Democratic Majority are a bitter disappointment. Obama and the media promised great transformation in 2008 in the person of the junior Senator from Illinois. Obama was the leader who would bless the country. Nit pick about what Obama actually said all you like – the thrust of his concocted narrative implied enlightened transformation and healing. What we got was a cavalcade of political hacks shoving shit down our throats, then gloating about it. This election is about duplicity in the end. It’s about the sense that we were massively mislead combined with the sister sense that the misleaders are out of control. I’ve held for a long time that the Democrats will not recover until they turn on Obama. Ugly, but true. Democrats have to own how Obama was sold. They must own their part in the magical projection, and finally, they must, in some way, make amends for it.”

Posted by John Smart:   http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/hey-eugene/

The time when I found anything Paul Krugman had to say of interest is in my rear view mirror. He’s an idiot.

John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.

Barry doesn’t have the arm movements worked out yet.

If you changed this story so that Obama was the cracked pot, the ending would  be very different:

But at the end of the trail, the Cracked Pot fired the water carrier for not putting enough seeds on its side of the path. The Cracked Pot hired a new water carrier and a staff of stone throwers to smash the   
uncracked pot to smithtereens.

Then everyone in house died of thirst, but there were beautiful flowers decorating the table.

Watching Janeane Garofolo at the beginning of the Teachenor Clark video (“they’re nothing but a bunch of tea-bagging rednecks”), I am reminded of
a perplexing dilemma that the extreme left is facing: these people are used to being on the outside looking in, and fighting the “establishment.”  Now they ARE the establishment, and they’re on the inside, and are frankly bewildered about how to demonize the demonstrators outside.  Funny!  Squirm, Janeane!

Remember the couple who slipped into the White House with no credentials, so they could party & meet important people?
 

Here’s their photo:

Thanks to the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, and the Restore Honor rally, I am starting to believe again! We may be down, but we are not out!
Regardless of who heads the republican ticket in 2012, I hope they have the wisdom to have Sarah by their side at every campaign stop across this land!

If anyone else is noticing the turning of the tide — our contemporary Cornwallis’s defeat at the hands of a bunch of untidy, unprofessional and untrained, shoeless farmers — please say a silent thanks to the one Sarah talks to.  This is no coincidence nor can it be passed-off as our having superior numbers, money, organization or the assistance of professional media organs.  In the end, even the hired mercenary Hessians couldn’t defeat the patriots–and their supremacy should have delivered another crushing defeat to Washington.  Why didn’t it?  The same reason Trumka, Pelosi and the president cannot do it now. 

Yes, I totally agree, Sassy.  This is how she can wield maximum power.  They will be not be able to attack her as a candidate if she continues in this role, and steam will be coming out of the MSM’s ears because they cannot.

“Convert to Intolerance, and we will tolerate you.  Otherwise, Die, infidel pigs!”

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Thanks, JustMe.

I see that comments must be read from bottom up if they are to
make any sense…..

 Now they ARE the establishment, and they’re on the inside, and are frankly bewildered about how to demonize the demonstrators outside.  Funny!  Squirm, Janeane!
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It’s even worse than that, oowawa. They have used empty, hollow rhetoric for so long that when confronted with pesky fact-based arguments, they are neither disciplined enough nor smart enough to take either take the bull by the horns or to even to escape through them. Their soundbites simply will no longer do when confronted by the enormous problems we face. Their days of compartmentalizing reality (which is staring them in the face) into tidy little boxes are done. I can’t wait to hear their next excuses and ad hominems–let the stuttering and stammering begin in earnest.

Katmoon:  I have this dvd in my library of ER Murrow’s “See it Now” series.  It was a watershed moment in US history.  Part of the problem now, as I see it, is that even by the good that Murrow and others did in revealing McCarthy as a facist, that they didn’t go far enough and media became the arbiter of what American thought.  In McCarthy we see the extremist strategy and tactics at one end of the spectrum.  Murrow denounces and exposes McCarthy and that’s good.  There were many Americans at the time who agreed with Murrow and fought against McCarthy, but they didn’t have a television show.  I’m having difficulty articulating this….  What seems to be the legacy of the McCarthy Era and the backlash from Murrow is a blind tolerance for ideological poo-poo because it’s “UnAmerican” (a term used by both McCarthy and Murrow) to 1) call it out and 2) not tolerate it.  What comes to mind for me is to have Bill Ayers, an “unrepentent” domestic terrorist, caught red-handed (no double entendre intended), saying they didn’t do enough (terrorism) and that he’s “guilty as hell, free as a bird, America is Great!” whose ideologies now serve as the foundation of Education Reform for this country from the platform of the White House.  What would ER Murrow have to say if I thought Bill Ayers was a dangerous, anti-American demogogue who should be on an FBI watch list and under house arrest?  We seem to have taken Murrow’s intent and twisted it into something unrecognizable. 

Good one! 

Regarding the segment with Sarah Palin applying the make-up to this fine gentleman, I watched it live and my only thought was: she has a kind touch, and genuine concern for what she is doing.

It has been amazing to watch who Sarah really is since taking back her wings and soaring to great heights since the GE!

AWESOME Blog post, RRRAmy. 

“Never Gonna Stand for This” is fantastic. Love it!! 

OMG, the sound of Olbermann’s “uh-huh” “uh-huh” “uh-huh” in response to the SKANK on his show is priceless. Sewer-dwellers all. 

Talking of Islam?

Talking of Islam!

What seems to be the legacy of the McCarthy Era and the backlash from Murrow is a blind tolerance for ideological poo-poo because it’s “UnAmerican” … to 1) call it out and 2) not tolerate it. 
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You raise an interesting dilemma, Abigail. It would seem to me that the answer is to be vigilant for those who would use rhetoric to justify their actions rather than using reason as justification. McCarthy and others like him on the hard right and hard left always give themselves away through the use of false/hasty generalizations, unknowable “facts”, and guilt-by-association, which demonstrate to anyone paying attention that their agenda is not on the up-and-up, for lack of a better phrase. These sorts are dogmatic and suffer from invincible ignorance.

It is not unamerican to expect that fellow citizens will behave responsibly and accept accountability. McCarthy did–and others like him do–lie by omission, not exactly the American thing to do.

This man is going places for sure

America is finaly discovering what Islam really stands for.

Europe is starting to push back too.

There is a big storm gathering!

My pleasure, Katmoon.  And excellent comment – spot on!

Very interesting video – I like Stuart Varney a lot.  And the guy from the Workers group is raising a red herring – public employees already make more money than private employees.  They already have excellent benefits, as well as salary compensation (which has been rising steadily, and is at its highest right now).  So if I was him, I would drop that part of his argument.

And, just like including AZ (gratuitously), including the issue of unionization as a human rights issue is a bit startling.  Yes, being able to WORK is an important issue, but that does not mean the work has to be unionized.  The two are not synonymous, are they?

Interesting read :
radical imams, mosques, and schools threaten us; they constitute an assembly line for the next generation of home-grown American jihadi killers. But we can’t ask the courts to silence them, because we want to maintain our 1st Amendment rights.
How, then, do we fight? There are three basic lines of attack. The first is to openly contest their odious doctrines and practices.  As Manda Ervin said here yesterday, speaking in the name of Muslim women:

I want West in or near the WH!!! Imagine a 2012 ticket with him and Christie on! Any order would do.

Palin / West sounds excellent!

It was just amazing. Plain amazing. Perfect formation.An eagle for America, Geese for the People.

Two peas in a pod.

Abigail-
Ok I lost my first response, seems they erase quickly in this new format, or just am not working my fingers right today. Abigail I was trying to articulate that I felt there are so many ways the “ism” has been played against the American voter, and my impression of what you are saying is this is a left-over from the legacy of the McCarthy era, in pendulum inertia, as in going way too far in either direction. The media and politicians have used and used and abused what we know is right and what we know is not; we must not allow anyone other than ourselves to define our feelings about race or any “ism” for that matter. I spent the last three hours coming up with a list of examples I recall in the last 2 years. I think this is being “Whitelisted”; IMHO that is what has been projected over and over again by politicians, party leaders, corporations, news broadcasters, constantly. It is just as wrong and as dangerous as what McCarthy did, and has had an effect on every political discussion I have had over the last 2 years. What really stood out was the progression from racist to bigotry to intolerance to terrorist and human rights violators. It is disgusting.
 

The American side also used paid Hessian mercenaries. We could not have won the Revolution without the assistance of France.

I disagree with some of your interpretations of American history, AbigailAdams. It is important to remember that the first European settlers had many motives for coming here. They were backed by financial entities and they were expected to make a return on the investment. Puritans wanted freedom of religion, but to say that was their only motive for coming here is too simplistic.

I don’t want to disrupt the excellent discussions here on NQ by being a nitpicker. As a country, we have too many problems for that. While I may disagree with some small things here and there, I am with those who say JUST STOP THE BLEEDING!

Vote the dems out, out, out. Do NOT let obots divide and conquer. Term limits. Make all the elected officials accountable. They won’t listen? Vote ‘em out. Next!

I can thank Obama for one thing: I never understood before how much I love my country.

Here’s the alternative to people like Palin and the alternative to TEA party type spirit… Venezuela just issued a Cuba style food card. Get ready to stand in a government food line to eat in Venezuela. Those who don’t follow the rules… well they just won’t eat. I wonder how much Venezuelans like Chavez now? Well at least there are no “rich” people… right? We would be right there as well if leftists had their way.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/04/1807508/venezuela-introduces-cuba-like.html

1. Senator John McCain- Sen. Barack Obama “Obama continued: “And so the only way they figure they’re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me. You know, he’s new, he’s… doesn’t look like the other presidents on the currency, you know, he’s got a, he’s got a funny name.’ Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4MCZXYSI

2. & 3.  Geraldine Ferraro/Senator Clinton- Geraldine Ferraro wherein she said that Obama wouldn’t have been as successful if he were not black. Senator Clinton- “tepid response” to the controversial remarks of Geraldine Ferraro.Source: http://www.youtubevideos1.com/geraldine-ferraro-defends-her-statements-full-video/ Keith Olberman- decried the statements as “clearly racist”; tonight, “campaigning as if Barack Obama were the Democrat and you were the Republican.” In so doing, said Olbermann said that Clinton had “missed a critical opportunity to do what was right.” Obama himself has called the comments “patently absurd.” “I don’t think Geraldine Ferraro’s comments have any place in our politics or in the Democratic Party. They are divisive,” he told the Allentown Morning Call.Source:http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/11/ferraro.comments/

4. Accused: President Bill Clinton- Accuser-Rev. Al Sharpton suggested Tuesday that a remark that Bill Clinton made about President Barack Obama may have been racist .Accuser-Al Sharpton- During an interview on Fox News with host Sean Hannity and conservative pundit Ann Coulter, Sharpton defended Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) in the wake of his racially insensitive comments that are described in a new book titled, “Game Change.” While defending Reid, Sharpton said an alleged comment Clinton reportedly made was “far more disturbing.” Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/75627-sharpton-bill-clintons-remarks-may-have-been-racist
5.  Accused-President Bill Clinton- On Friday, Bill Clinton called into multiple African American radio shows, including one hosted by Al Sharpton, to tamp down backlash against him for calling Obama’s candidacy a “fairy tale.” Accuser-Huffington Post- Now the Clintons are learning a tough, yet valuable lesson: That there are some things that no white American–even the first black president–gets a free pass on saying. And this happens to be one of them. Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keli-goff/how-the-clintonobama-fair_b_81410.html

6. Accused- Sgt. James Crowley(Cambridge Police)- Obama said that he, too, would likely be stopped by police if, like Gates, he was seen forcibly entering his home. But the president, standing in the East Room of the White House, laughed at his own hypothetical example and said that since the White House is now his home, if he were forcibly entering it, “I would be shot.” Saying that while African-Americans and Hispanics are more frequently stopped by police, Obama said. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8148986&page=1
7. Accused-Gov. Sarah Palin- By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is “palling around with terrorists” and doesn’t see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign. And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret. Accuser-APSource: http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/sarah-palin-is-one-of-us-now/

I will stop here I actually got up to 25, but I think I have used up enough space aleady, let me just add the last few: 

22. Rep Wilson-President Clinton/ Congressman Clyburn-A lot of these outbursts have to do with delegitimizing him as a president,” said Congressman Jim Clyburn, a senior member of the South Carolina delegation. Clyburn, the man who called out Bill Clinton on his racially tinged attacks on Obama in the primary, pushed Pelosi to pursue a formal resolution chastising Wilson.
Source: ttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html?_r=1
24. Mosque Near Ground Zero Opponents-Nora O’Donnell-There is a leap here from bigotry to the claim of “Terrorists”-Source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfxCj-Q4hFc
25.The United States, Arizona -President Obama, the administrations letter to the U.N. Council on  Equality of Outcome. The discussion of “discrimination” focuses on the fact that minority groups have not attained as much as white Americans. This, Obama insists stems from bigotry. “We are not satisfied that whites are twice as likely as Native Americans to have a college degree. See section on “values and immigration,” which essentially singles out Arizona’s immigration enforcement law as a human rights deficiency “that is being addressed in a court action.”
Source: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/146379.pdf

Why is Janine Garafalo considered a valid commentator?? She is a failed actress and un-funny comedienne. Her schtick is whining, much like Obama’s. So why would anyone take anything she says seriously??

‘Islamization’ of Paris a Warning to the West<!– #EndEditable –>
by Dale Hurd
CBN News Sr. Reporter
PARIS – Friday in Paris. A hidden camera shows streets blocked by huge crowds of Muslim worshippers and enforced by a private security force.
This is all illegal in France: the public worship, the blocked streets, and the private security. But the police have been ordered not to intervene.
It shows that even though some in the French government want to get tough with Muslims and ban the burqa, other parts of the French government continue to give Islam a privileged status.
An ordinary French citizen who has been watching the Islamization of Paris decided that the world needed to see what was happening to his city. He used a hidden camera to start posting videos on YouTube. His life has been threatened and so he uses the alias of “Maxime Lepante. “ 
Lepante’s View
His camera shows that Muslims “are blocking the streets with barriers. They are praying on the ground. And the inhabitants of this district cannot leave their homes, nor go into their homes during those prayers.”
“The Muslims taking over those streets do not have any authorization. They do not go to the police headquarters, so it’s completely illegal,” he says.
The Muslims in the street have been granted unofficial rights that no Christian group is likely to get under France’s Laicite’, or secularism law.
“It says people have the right to share any belief they want, any religion,” Lepante explained. “But they have to practice at home or in the mosque, synagogues, churches and so on.”
Some say Muslims must pray in the street because they need a larger mosque. But Lepante has observed cars coming from other parts of Paris, and he believes it is a weekly display of growing Muslim power.
“They are coming there to show that they can take over some French streets to show that they can conquer a part of the French territory,” he said.
 http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/August/Islamization-of-Paris-a-Warning-to-the-West/  for video

Are those the districts also where the SEIU, AFLCIO, MovOn, and Acorn will be deployed?

 Long ago my son made a cd of that song and I’ve loved it ever since.

Long ago my son made a cd of that song and I’ve loved it ever since.

He’s also a pot head… and any other variation on the same theme.

All car trunks should be sealed for 30 days before and 30 days after any election.

A couple of days ago I saw one of these Obama images, except he looked like a zombie. The caption read : THEY LIVE. This was in the bay area.

Big dem donors are jumping ship too.

arabella trefoil:  “I disagree with some of your interpretations of American history, AbigailAdams. It is important to remember that the first European settlers had many motives for coming here. They were backed by financial entities and they were expected to make a return on the investment. Puritans wanted freedom of religion, but to say that was their only motive for coming here is too simplistic.”

arabella,

Since the discussion of late (mostly between oowawa and me) has been centered on religion and its impetus in our history, the subject of other motives has not come up.  But your example raises an important point.  The main spark for the American Revolution was provided by a series of British’ parlimentary acts that drew into sharp contrast some colonists’ dissonance over republican rule and the King’s imposition of corporate interests.  The Boston Tea Party wasn’t about religion, nor was the Molasses Act.  But the Stamp Act was about freedom of the press as well as unfair taxation to shore up the Motherland’s failing enterprises in the West Indies.  But behind these historical events were the percolating thoughts of what is behind it all.  Why are we here and why now?  The Enlightenment, or Great Awakening had reached the level of popular culture about 1730′s, 1740′s.   You’re right, it didn’t take hold in the entire colonial population; roughly 1/3rd were loyalists and 1/3rd were ambivalent – being too busy with work-a-day worries.  When the ambivalent had an opinion, it was usually tied to whichever army happened to be quartered in town or nearby countryside and had the upper hand. 

But the Puritan population of New England cannot be ignored.  And the part their cultural trajection played in republicanism is well-documented (truly not my own personal interpretation of history). 

Yes, we did have French support in the American Revolution but it was long seen as a big gamble on their part.  Their eventual support, in part, was given because of their shared vision of the Enlightenment.  But the Americans did not pay France, as King George paid (and conscripted) the Hessians into service on behalf of the Crown.  The War for Independence became, for the French, seeking the same benefits, an example that it could be done.  The independence sought included the right of free indivduals to make their own choices, including of course how to practice their religion.  And that is what the conversation has been about — recognizing the roots of republicanism.  It was not centered completely on the right to govern our corporate business affairs, but unalienable rights and under what authority have we to cite for those rights. 

Katmoon:  Thank you for taking the time to present these.  And thanks, too, for putting some facts to my stumbling, bumbling thinking aloud on this subject.

I would love to read the others you’ve got.  This would make an interesting chapter in a book.

The backup vocals are amazing.

felizarte, you bring up an important issue.  I challenge us NQ readers to make it our business to be involved in these ways during the election.  We can’t wait for someone else to take care of posting watchers/reporters to the voting places.  I know I’ll be out there with camera and cell phone.  Check your local laws first.

I’d like a show of hands on this, please.  Do we need to get out of the U.N.? 

On the issue of unionization, I’m most entertained by Chris Christie’s characterization of the teachers’ union in N.J.  — “It’s like the Hotel California…you can check out but you can never leave.” (Speaking on the fact that you can opt-out, but you have to pay to do so.)  Wasn’t that the modus operandi of the Chicago mafia — buy our insurance or we’ll break your legs.

I’ve been working on my Franklin Planner, my last entry is dated Nov. 2nd.