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What Deal?! (Open Thread)

Christopher Dodd rushed out in front of the cameras before lunch to announce that a deal was reached on the $700B giveaway. Democrats and media chortled that this proved McCain wasn’t needed — too late to help. Back to the debate tomorrow night, they suggested.

But wait, not so fast! What is this deal? And who made it?

Start with the latter: Who?

Dodd apparently thinks he has a deal among Democrats, giving him cover to make his announcement, but he ignored the Republicans whose leadership is unanimous that there is no deal:

There was constructive progress among some members of the Banking Committee and we will review these and other ideas with the Congressional Leadership, the Secretary of the Treasury, the President and the two Presidential candidates.” — Mitch McConnell

“”I am encouraged by the bipartisan progress being made toward an economic package that protects the interests of families, seniors, small businesses and all taxpayers. However, House Republicans have not agreed to any plan at this point,” Boehner said in a written statement. — John Boehner.

“There was progress on many issues, but no agreement other than to continue discussions.” — Spencer Bachus.

In fact, on the 7 p.m. Eastern FOX News reprot, Bret Baier reports:

  • Dodd bluffed. There was no deal.
  • Obama lied about the joint statement with McCain.
  • The meeting with the president was “extremely contentious”, “Democrats were yelling”, and it “ended very badly”.
  • Bush acknowledged there was no agreement.

The deal?

Dodd offered no details. Not surprising as there was No Deal.

“The legislative details still need to be hashed out”—Mitch McConnell

And Obama, who did’t want to be in DC?

“I think we need to get something done, and we need to get something done for Main Street as well as Wall Street”—Barack Obama.

Just don’t ask Obama “How?” as he doesn’t know and is waiting for others to do the work. He’s made abundantly clear in the past few days that his campaign and Friday’s foreign policy debate are more important.

McCain is far clearer and more direct.

“It is difficult to act both quickly and wisely, but that is what is required of us right now. Time is short, and doing nothing is not an option.”

“Let me put it this way: I would rather build a bridge to nowhere — and put it square in the middle of Sedona, Arizona — than take money from teachers and farmers and small business owners to line the pockets of the Wall Street crowd that got us here in the first place. And I can assure you: if I have anything to say about the matter, it’s not going to happen.

So, as to the details, there are none at the moment.

And George Bush?

Welcoming Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, Bush said, “My hope is that we can reach an agreement very shortly.”

The tentative accord would give the Bush administration just a fraction of the $700 billion it had requested up front, with half the money subject to a congressional veto, congressional aides said. Under the plan, the Treasury secretary would get $250 billion immediately and could have an additional $100 billion if he certified it was needed. The last $350 billion could be blocked by a vote of Congress under the arrangement, designed to give lawmakers a stronger hand in controlling the unprecedented rescue.

Bush is quoted by Bret Baier as saying that there is No Deal, the economy could crash. Yet, again tonight, Obama says Friday’s debate should go on between him and McCain. Incredible.

  • Paul3triple

    nobo i have been advocating the cap-gain suspension for a couple days.
    Investments would increase 15% automatically if the tax was lifted.
    There are certainly ways to work around this without such a huge bailout. I want an agreement to go through but i am not totally sold on the 700 billion.
    There could be a different way.
    McCain and pubs are worried about the taxpayer. That is the main issue holding this up. Dems want more cash pumped in the bill. Repubs want better protection for taxpayers. Dems must have thought they were going to get a trillion dollar bill of waste passed, but the GOP said no deal.
    I agree. I think this should be WORKED on. Not just thrown together as fast as possible.
    I am also not to keen on my tax dollars being given to poeple defaulting on their mortage. For one, i am paying off a house and the government is not going to help me. These poeple took bad loans, and KNEW they took bad loans. I do not see it as my job to pay for their house. I am paying for mine.

  • Deb

    Meanwhile- just now on FOX- Neil Cavuto talking with Shep Smith..Smith said, Well, Senator Bunning says this is socialism, is it Neil? Cavuto says- it’s worse!

    Obama said just now- in taped remarks- in his usualy vague way- that this is why he didn’t want to come to DC- this is the problem when you interject presidential politics – in other words- the meeting was a mistake and should never have happened.

    Obama is very unhappy.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver
  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I have seen how he helped in Ill. and Chicago and I don’t want his help. If they would have listed to McCain in the first place we would not be in this mess.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Idiot Congresswoman Mahonny(?) just on FOX telling at great length about what was going on in meetings, criticizing McCain and what “he said”, then challenged with the discrepancy about McCain, admitted she wasn’t even there. But, then she kept on with her talking points…

  • Deep Truths

    Okay, so we have McCain acting like a grown-up (and presidential), and Obama still out to lunch.

    Thanks for the update.

  • Seattle Moss

    How can we have democrats run this country when they keep getting outfoxed by the republicans and John McCain.
    The democrats got broadsided by the Palin choice assuming that McCain was going to pick Romney.
    The democrats had their main issue destroyed with Iraq being declared a victory.
    Now the democrats are being outfoxed once again by there being no deal on the bailout…Yet!
    Republicans are going to rally around McCain and approve a bill that shows his supreme leadership.

    We need leadership and those willing to outfox rogue dictators and others that would harm America.

    That man is John McCain!!

  • sandy gonzo

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  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Classic Obama. Petulant and stubbornly determined to have his debate tomorrow night. As they just mentioned, I wonder if he’ll actually go and stand there by himself?!

    Maybe McCain could sneak Palin down as a stand in… Wouldn’t that freak him out?!

  • noepiphany

    OT – apologies – but this is disgusting:

    Dean’s brother Pac attack McCain’s health – graphic images
    Surprisingly, from NY Times
    Two liberal groups – one of them directed by a brother of the Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean – will begin running a graphic attack advertisement Thursday morning raising questions about Senator John McCain’s health. Showing vivid and unflattering images of the fresh scar that appeared on Senator McCain’s face immediately after his last operation for melanoma skin cancer eight years ago.
    and how is this legitimate?
    the commercial ends with a screen headline that reads, “Why won’t John McCain release his medical records?”..
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/deans-brother-pac-attack-mccains-health-graphic-images/

  • Paul3triple

    wow, what a bipartisan effort from dems. They do not get all of the taxmoney they want and now they are on tv crying and hurling insults.
    That surely helps the deal. What a bunch of idiots. Mac looks like a president. Obama looks like a baby.

  • just me

    So true Seattle

    We need to send the rogue dictator back to where he belongs..

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Hell, when I was transferred from Washignton state, it took me a year to sell my house while at the same time renting for that year. I didn’t whine and expect a government handout. I made do until we got it sold.

    The fools who took on those subprime mortgages were just that. However, my biggest gripe is with those who sold them the loans. They need to do some hard time.

  • MaggiefromMichigan

    Yes. This is one time I actually agree with Obmaa. It was a mistake that he came back to DC and attended the meeting. But it’s great to know that McCain is back and looking out for our best interests!!

  • vinnie

    lowest of the low. I can never ever go back to being a Dem again.

  • Zelda Crunch

    Obama is very unhappy.

    Then I am very glad.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Do you find value in using his middle name?! What does it contribute to the conversation? I think you only embarrass yourself and everyone here to play games with it as you are doing so, in my opinion, as a subtle ethnic bias. It is not only unnecessary, but is offensive. Who cares what his middle name is?!

  • I Like Middleclassness

    I don’t know why he is insisting on the Foreign Policy Debate tomorrow night.

    Everyone knows the positions of the 2 candidates:

    McCain: strong on national security, experienced as a statesman.

    Soebama: will sell the U.S. out in a hot minute

    So what’s the point, we all know where they stand.

  • Zelda Crunch

    LOL

  • lark

    Obama was extremely selfish in his press release. Implied an accusation that McCain was being selfish and politicizing the issue by simply getting involved in the negotiations. He says that the presidential candidates should not be involved. Yet, he said that his ways of dealing with the negotiations are the most effective. He said that being on the phone with Paulsen and Bernanke all day long is the best way to participate. He said that he was not interested in credits or blaming.

    He definitely is crediting himself with leading Paulsen to write the plan according to him. That’s what he is going to say as soon as a plan is reached.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Yes, Obama should go down and talk to himself at the debate. Maybe they can set up two teleprompters for him so he can shuffle back and forth across the stage.

  • Zelda Crunch

    No Matthew – that’s not bias. It’s the opposite of PC. But it’s not bias. This is his name. Period.

  • James

    Agreed. Whenever legitimate issues against Obama are made, Democratic voters do not take it seriously because we’re tainted with this ‘Hussein’ bullshit.

  • Zelda Crunch

    “Just be yourself. They can’t take that away from you.”
    – Coleman in Trading Places

    ;)

  • Seattle Moss

    LOL..

  • http://deleted OBSP

    I bought my condo in February, 2005 with a conventional 30-year mortage. 40% of the buyers were investors (against condo rules), they got in someway and 40% of the units are now in foreclosure. It cost me double my budgeted assessments every month. Still that does not pay for the upkeep on the property. We have had serious buyers interested in purchasing, but they are delayed on loans. I live in the West Loop of Chicago no more than 12 miles from Hyde Park. I have written Sen. Durbin, Sen Jones (IL), Senator Hendon(my rep) to no avail.
    I don’t want to bail out the greedy bastards, I want money to flow back into communities.
    I put down 20% and that’s gone, if they can reach an agreement where the profits go into paying off the debt, I will be more than happy with that!
    Hillary said it best, “foreclosure effects everyone.”

  • Zelda Crunch

    ROFL

  • Zelda Crunch

    He says that the presidential candidates should not be involved.

    At least he’s consistent. He chairs a committee on Afghanistan he’s not convened in nearly two years. He doesn’t want to get involved there either evidently. ;)

  • VMorris

    He said that being on the phone with Paulsen and Bernanke all day long is the best way to participate. He said that he was not interested in credits or blaming.

    He definitely is crediting himself with leading Paulsen to write the plan according to him. That’s what he is going to say as soon as a plan is reached.

    There are some problems with what Obama is saying: It was McCain that Paulson asked to come back to Washington, not Obama. Obama had to be nudged by the President.

    And I believe there is much more disagreement than we are hearing about. My gut tells me the vote is going to be close. If it is close, being present for the vote will be vital.

    Or, can Barack phone in his vote if they call him when they need him?

  • just me

    LOL

    he will still hash up teleprompters seem to break down just at the right time!

  • Steven Mather

    He does not want to do the work: he just wants to show up when the deal is done, say it was his committee and his plan, become president, and start his campaign to run for Emperor of the Two Universes.

  • Zelda Crunch

    Bill Clinton says a single foreclosure costs society $250 K.

  • Deb

    OMG- you can’t make this up.

    Set aside liquid drinks- away from the keyboard.

    Barney Frank compared McCain’s involvement to “Richard Nixon blowing up the Vietnam peace talks in 1968.”

    Per ABC
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5884701&page=1

  • Sassy

    Perhaps some on the Hill would like to read the bill they are going to pass.
    Novel idea!
    McCain is playing this smoothly, and he is proving himself to be trustworty.
    I’m impressed that things got a little heated…many of us across the land are steamed as well!

  • VMorris

    ROTFLMAO. Good one!

  • Joker

    This is old hat but why can’t Sahra show up for the debates tommor night…..I believe she could make a fool out of the chosen one…….

  • Ferd McBerfle

    I just see that he has an aversion to work. Everything he does is solely geared towards getting attention and lots of it. How anyone could support such a fraud is beyond me.

  • VMorris

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  • VMorris

    Preview of Obama’s Presidency:

    Show Up.

    Give a Speech.

    Go on vacation.

    Show Up.

    Give a Speech.

    Go on vacation.

    Show Up.

    Give a Speech.

    Go on vacation.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I will never I mean never vote for a democrat again…I have been reading and hearing all the lies they are spreading and the NBC network is helping…what a bunch of losers if they can’t win fair they lie and cheat.

  • tminu

    Obama grant being probed
    $100,000 DEAL | State to charity: What happened to garden money, other cash?

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I keep seeing this in comments…why would the McCain camp send the VP to debate the candidate for pres?

  • Felizarte

    O course he’s unhappy! First, he really did not want the economic crisis to be over because he thinks it improves his political support; just like he didn’t want the soldiers to come home yet before the elections;

    Secondly, whatever solution comes out of Washington, he cannot say that he wasn’t part of it. He cannot just vote present. On the other hand, McCain can take credit for ‘leadership’ and in pushing for the solution.

    Thirdly, Obama would have to train for the debate all over again and come up with new talking points once this crisis is over.

  • just me

    I see no reason why the debate cannot be a couple of days later…. hey these have all played with our money it needs to be sorted out well.

    All this rushing to put something into place will be worse later…..

    If Obama is so worried about the debate and costs let him cover the cost over the next couple of days he was paid out from Fannie & Freddie let him dip his hand into his pot.

    I do realize people have moved into homes etc in MO but hey could be worse they may not have a home in a week if this mess is not sorted.

    Debate can wait

  • wodiej

    On O’Reilly they said Barney Frank led the charge in getting non qualified low income people into mortgages. Both sides to blame, even Bush.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I keep seeing this in comments…why would the McCain camp send the VP to debate the candidate for pres?

  • lark

    Now Obama is saying he’s staying tonight in Washington managing the phones and calling people to get an agreement.

    Again the same thing. Chameleon. Imitating McCain and impersonating his actions. Why? To later throw them in his face when they do the debate.

    Mark my words. Obama wants to debate McCain with the sole purpose of making him angry by throwing in his face the same words, ideas and platform McCain has announced and by appropriating his campaign messages. And I don’t doubt that McCain will get quite mad with that.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Matthew; Hell of a torpedo…

    I tell ya I saw just Barney on C-Span inspiring all kinds of confidence.

    The MSM matrix is moving at a stunning velosity.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Throw in a few wars, illegal searches, and torture and you’ve got George Bush. Had enough?! Vote McCain.

  • lark

    Preview of Oblahblah’s speeches. Everything that is I did, everything that was done, was done because of my leadership, everything to be done will be done because of my initiative. Thank you for doing your jobs according to my will.

  • jbjd

    BO just on FOX. He repeated claims he and JMc had issued a joint statement yesterday, again emphasizing this was at his suggestion. Then, a minute later, he bemoaned the interjection of politics at the meeting today with President Bush and Congressional leaders to discuss the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, prompted by the attendance of the Presidential candidates, just as he had anticipated. Not surprisingly, he failed to clarify that President Bush had summoned him to attend the meetings (and presumably would have summoned Senator McCain, too, if he hadn’t already announced he would go to Washington and asked President Bush to convene this meeting in the first place). BO cited as an example of this politicizing which, he had tried to avert by his absence, the fact that, in the face of all these cameras, parties sought to claim credit for any positive developments. Obviously, he completely missed the irony of this statement, having called this press conference to assure the public he was on top of everything; and would have been on top even if he hadn’t gone to Washington (and held this press conference to decry JMc’s insistence everyone should meet up in Washington to work this out).

  • tish

    FAMILY” Connection with Dems & Obama Sep 18, ’08 8:12 PM
    for everyone

    In 2005– Barack Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus met with Fannie Mae for a “family” event. In 2005 Democrats also blocked reform of Fannie Mae:

    This was before Fannie Mae started filling the pockets of Barack Obama with political donations.
    The junior Illinois senator collected more money from Fannie Mae than any other Washington politician except Senator Dodd in the last decade.
    Obama was able to accomplish this feat in just 3 years.

    This video shows Fannie Mae CEO talking to “family” members of the Congressional Black Caucus in 2005.

    The Democrats have been taking PAYOFFS from Fannie and Freddie and have looked the other way FOR DECADES!
    They’ve blocked reform several times.

    Now this NEW VIDEO of the CEO of Fannie Mae in 2005 shows him explaining the “FAMILY” connection with Democrats and specifically Barack Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus. It looks like Michelle Obama was at the event, too.
    This was before Barack Obama started collecting tens of thousands from the failed lender.

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/busted-ceo-of-fannie-mae-in-2005.html

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Incredible wasn’t it?

    Do you or anyone have video for this and for the 7 p.m. Eastern FOX News report?

  • LAMusing

    He obviously has a special Bat Phone

  • SLW

    Off topic but wanted to share some breaking news:

    Obama state senate grant probed; A $100,000 state grant for a botanic garden in Englewood that then-state Sen. Barack Obama awarded in 2001 to a group headed by a onetime campaign volunteer is now under investigation by the Illinois attorney general amid new questions, prompted by Chicago Sun-Times reports, about whether the money might have been misspent.
    Link provided for those interested.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/09/obama_state_senate_grant_probe.html

  • VMorris

    lol

  • VMorris

    lol lol…

  • lark

    Don’t worry. If Oblahblah shows up tonight all by himself for the debate and the debate goes on, he will show up to be an American version of Hugo Chavez. No regard or respect for proper process.

  • http://deleted OBSP

    Big Dawg is right. We’ve had breakins in a wonderful community. Appliances, pipes and anything they can get away with gone. I don’t wish anyone bad, but if this was a house down the street from Backtrack, I’m sure he would not say, call me if you need me. Michele would kick his A_s. He does not care about IL, how could he care about this Country.

  • VMorris

    Oh! I didn’t know that. Wow!

  • Shiloh

    What do you folks think of the new attack on McCain’s health? Will it work? Backfire? How should it be countered?

  • Amy Crunch

    my biggest gripe is with those who sold them the loans. They need to do some hard time.

    They’re too busy working for the Obama campaign.

  • J

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  • WynterSkye

    Wait a sec… didn’t McCain already release detailed medical records just a few months ago from a physical examination having then just been conducted?

  • Amy Crunch

    Do check that link. It gets dirtier and dirtier as you dig.

    Pritzker is very much involved in the reform of Chicago’s public education system. Currently she is vice chair of the Chicago Public Education Fund, the successor organization to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

  • just me

    Health you mean what Howard Deans brother is doing…

    I think they want to be careful one never knows what illness can strike at a moment’s notice…

    I think it’s disgusting and will back fire and send more over to John McCain’s side….

    Go John/Sarah

  • TeakwoodKite

    If you saw his remote speech, from where ever it was, for the Global Initiative he had these long pauses waiting for the telepromter to catch up.

    Really wierd!

  • ybnormal

    To start; what I heard Dodd say was they had an agreement on principles; which to me does not sound at all like having a deal. Of course he also said the 3-hour detour was a McCain photo-op, while in fact it was a photo-op for everyone present. Then we have McCain claiming he’s suspending his campaign to save America; then conveniently stopping by to brief Katie Couric, then going directly to the above photo-op.

    That said, most reporting about who said what sounds to me like ’08 campaign backwash. The real dirt is in the language of the original draft.

    Note that much of what the Treasurer is empowered to do is either what he can already do, or if not, are additional powers he normally needs approval for. Meanwhile, specific remedies are specifically excluded – i.e. no reviews by courts or agencies, etc. Some things are even still excluded after sunset.

    So the real significance of all this, is that they want to do what they always do in bailouts, except they want to eliminate the annoyances of approvals, oversight and accountability.

    Now they’re argueing about limits and oversights, all of which still have to be approved by full House and Senate votes; but in the end; even though they’re sure to change the original draft; the whole damn thing = one big ass deregulation.

  • Annie Oakley

    Oh crap! Is George Bush still president? Seeing him reminded me of two things he said recently. 1)” I’m sprinting to the finish line,” and 2) he described the financial crisis as Wall St. getting drunk and said, “I don’t know how long they’ll sober up for.” Kind of like his WMD skit. Yep, George, it all happened on your watch.

  • http://Dinocrat gardenvariety

    Exactly! It’s the old soviet(?) idea: the worst things get, the better it is (to some people).

  • BJinChicago

    “I’m not running for president because I think I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need. My country saved me. My country saved me, and I cannot forget it. And I will fight for her for as long as I draw breath, so help me God.” -John McCain

    “Ehhhh-ahhh-ummmm-ahhhh…” -Barack Obama

  • Amy Crunch

    the Pritzker family reached an agreement with regulators to pay $460 million over 15 years toward the costs of the closure

  • lark

    Negative attacks work when you pile them up like that. They are countered first by issuing a counter ad even more negative than the offensive one. And by condemning it and contrasting it with the truth. Political warfare.

  • ford

    I was wondering what is looked like when Reid went crazy in the meeting with Bush….does that mean he doesn’t get tucked in tonight?

    I do think BO has had his head messed with, with the change in plans, and the uncertainty…BO likes to be in control.

    How POed is BO that Mac is calling the shots…

    If I wasn’t loosing so much money I would love this.

  • WynterSkye

    I see it as McCain doing two things at once.. being a working senator and a candidate for president… it is Obama doing only one thing, being a perpetual candidate

  • carol

    Dodd was talking about his deal with the insiders of Wall Street regarding the payoff.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    I’d ask where Oblahblah’s records are. As far as I know, he hasn’t released anything but a summary.

  • wodiej

    wow…..

  • fif

    Does he realize that being president involves dealing with EVERYTHING entangled in politics and STILL getting things accomplished? He lives in his ivory tower head.

  • typical bitter whitey woman

    That was the real game-changer. His debate practice got interrupted. lol.

  • just me

    The awful ad is on fox now

  • MaggiefromMichigan

    Hmmm I though McCain has release pages and pages of medical records and that Obama released a one page document from his doc. So to combat the ad I would show boxes of medical records and compare that to the one page held up so it could be read for Obama’s release. And ask where are his years of records?

  • wac for hillary

    McCain should show up, say just what you said, and then say “Now that we have that settled, let’s talk about economic problems that ultimately affect our national security.” Would Obama (1) faint, (2) pee in his pants, (3) use the “R” word, or (4) all of the above?

  • Amy Crunch

    Is Obama out to lunch already? I don’t think he ever finished his breakfast waffle!

  • just me

    Robert Greenwall Deans Brother
    GE Boss and Jeff Zuker also involved in it

    Sick men

  • ford

    As Larry posted earlier, having Dodd and Frank handle this IS the rooster watching the hen house…I am glad Mac is there because it will help him make his case to the American people, that this deal needs to be worked over by a group that was not part of the problem..

    I think any rational person would feel this way. The BO people are not rational in demanding the debate, if this deal is not done…

  • wac for hillary

    Don’t tell me he’s on that committee, too! If he is, I gather he hasn’t attended any of those meetings either.

  • Amy Crunch

    And now they removed his comment for saying people should use Obama’s own name when referring to Obama?

    That’s just bloody ridiculous.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Thanks for hte link. That tells me all I need to know. Annenberg Challenge, indeed.

  • Maverick

    That would be Pritzer on down. Middle men brokers don’t sell loans, they originate and follow the rules of the lender.

  • ford

    Ugh!…does Sinclair really need to show up now, or is this a hoax?

  • fif

    Beside the fact that it is false. Reporters were given access to his medical records for a limited time. They’re not stupid. If they are still bringing up Keating 5 and Todd Palin’s DUI both from 20 years ago, imagine what the irresponsible and demented press would do with personal medical information. And isn’t it true that Obama only released a single page about his health? Where are YOUR records Obama, AND your State Senate records, AND your school records, AND…

  • wodiej

    O’Reilly has Megyn Kelly on and she said nothing can be done about it. It’s legit…she said there has to be probable cause that Howard is on it w his brother before legal action.

  • LookingForwardTo2012

    You are so right!!

    You see, he’s a thinker…and when he gets through thinking and pondering, he wants to tell you about it. Every sentence begins with I. Wonder when he will begin to refer to himself in the third person??

  • Maverick

    I thought Nobama was the leader of the Banking committee? He said that a month ago. LOL
    He’s such a con artist BS’er.

  • fif

    He said that he was not interested in credits or blaming.

    Then why is his entire press release about taking credit and blaming McCain?

  • Maverick

    Confidence in the U.S. financial market erodes at home and abroad with China reportedly saying no more lending funds to American banks.
    Confidence in the U.S. financial market erodes at the thought of Obama as president

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Regarding the Health Scare Ad against McCain. Just watched it, understand it is now running on MSNBC.

    There are details about it at:

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/liberal-pacs-ready-attack-ad-on-mccains-health/?pagemode=print

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    Howard Dean’s family is responsible for it. Is brother. This is a clear, but circumstantial connection. And, as Obama has taken over the Democratic party, Dean works for him. Even if Obama claims no responsibility, I cannot imagine that The One couldn’t impose upon his chair, Dean, to have his brother pull the ad. And what about MSNBC that is running the ad?

    Finally, other than the stupid doctor on the ad trying to scare folks, I don’t see the problem with the ad. I know several people who have had skin cancer and they are fine. Anyway, Palin is there to take over should he encounter a health problem. I’m comforted over that as opposed to Biden.

    And BTW, where are Obama’s medical records?! Is that growing growth on his nose malignant?

  • Mercedes

    It makes eminent sense to me that the presidential candidates should have input into this deal. One or the other of them is going to be carrying the consequences squarely on his shoulders.

    It sounds to me that Obama is just trying AGAIN, as so many times in the past, to avoid taking any responsibility. He wants the glory. Don’t bother him with the gore. I think he said yesterday he might not even show up for the vote on whatever legislation is eventually developed.

    What a fraud!

  • Will Smith

    Just look at this clown
    Barney Frank was born to a Jewish family in Bayonne, New Jersey and was educated at Harvard College, where he resided in Kirkland House and then Winthrop House, graduating in 1962. He taught undergraduates at Harvard while studying for a Ph.D., but left in 1968, before completing that degree, to become the Chief Assistant to Mayor Kevin White of Boston, a position he held for three years. He then served for one year as Administrative Assistant to Congressman Michael J. Harrington.

    In 1972, Frank was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives, where he served for eight years. During that time, he entered Harvard Law School and graduated in 1977.

    Video: Fox News hammers Democrats again for Fannie/Freddie mess
    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/video-fox-news-hammers-democrats-again-for-fanniefreddie-mess/

  • tminu

    RE:
    Obama grant being probed
    $100,000 DEAL | State to charity: What happened to garden money, other cash?

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article
    _________

    Brent Hume just reported the Sun Times Article about Garden Gate Park on FNC so it got some coverage. Now if McCain could reschedule the debate at Garden Gate Obama and McCain could both stand on the gazebo with the press all standing in the weeds and the DanRyan in the background. That would be a ultimate coup de taunt.
    McCain DID listen before and he gave a speech from an oil platform……so why not the gazebo surrounded by the concrete-chunk and weed-filled grounds that were supposed to be landscaped (but the money went to Obama’s campaign)?

    I bet Obama’s on the horn right now to Chicago, “Goddamn it go to HomeDepot and buy some bleeping marigolds and stick them in the dirt do you hear me!?”

  • bert

    They can also give him two teleprompters, one for each issue so he can flip-flop and give the Dem side and the the Repub position too.

  • VMorris

    Now Obama is saying he’s staying tonight in Washington managing the phones and calling people to get an agreement.

    Let me get this straight:

    1. Obama didn’t want to return to Washington in the first place. He had to be nudged by Bush to go.

    2. Hours ago, he was whining that they shouldn’t be there because it “injected politics” into the situation.

    3. Now, he is only too eager to stay at the White House and Manage the phones and calling people to get an agreement.

    4. He also claimed that he is not interested in getting credit.

    But, he sure makes it sound as if he is taking over now and going to solve this all on his own.

    So here is how this is going to spin out in the MSM:

    Obama has his minions, Dodd, Schumer and Frank first claiming an agreement had been reached when it hadn’t. Now Frank is trying to make it sound as if they were on the brink of agreement, but that McCain stepped in and messed it up.

    Obama makes himself sound busy and in charge, so tomorrow’s headline will say: Obama Saves the Day!!

    We all know the truth:

    Paulson asked McCain to go to Washington because he knew House Republicans were not buying into the bailout. (Originally, Harry Reid asked too. He was for McCain getting involved before he was against it.)

    McCain takes a risk of postponing the debate to do what is asked of him. Obama throws a snit fit, stamps his foot and insists the debate must go on. Obama has to be dragged kicking and screaming.

    As a ploy to make it look as if they didn’t need McCain, Dodd claims there was an agreement, when there really wasn’t. It was only and agreement on certain principals. Nothing fully fleshed out exists. Still, they want to try to blame McCain for lack of an agreement that was never there in the first place.

    So now that they got Obama to finally drag his butt to Washington, they are going to try to claim he was the leader, when we all know, Obama would still be cramming for his debate had McCain not made the first move.

  • fif

    OMG: so WHO is being political?!

    I am so utterly disgusted with the Democrats, grandstanding and behaving like children. No wonder their Congressional rating is in the toilet. Especially Barney Frank & Chris Dodd who are two of the chief architects of this collapse!

  • wac for hillary

    She wasn’t there, but she knew what McCain said. What did she do, contact the Psychic Hotline? I can’t believe I ever thought having the Democrats in charge would be good for this country!

  • Ferd McBerfle

    I don’t know about third person but I’ve heard the first person plural out of him several times. I just yelled at the TV about the damn mouse in his pocket. That royal “we” claptrap is so annoying.

  • TeakwoodKite

    I feel ya OBSP. in the last 6 months 5 trillion dollars has up and split in one form or another.

    As an example of this. WAMU reported billions in losses last quarter and now JP Morgan is buying the deposit side of the savings and loans and not the mortgage securities…

    Clarence:

    Strange, isn’t it? Each man’s life touches so many other lives. When he isn’t around he leaves an awful hole, doesn’t he?

    .

    Wonder what kind of paper was used to finance BO’s wine celler….wonder if it was a variable and had it flipped by any of these clowns….insider trading is BO speciality.

  • KsGirl

    Matthew,

    I say screw the debate I am worried about my 401K. This is absurd….

    I want someone that IS going to go to bat for me… and that is John McCain…

    Obama can go to hell and take the debate with him…

  • fif

    Have you seen Obama debate? If anyone, including the moderators, say ANYTHING that displeases The One, he becomes furious, and seethes with petulance. McCain will know just how to get under his skin.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    You left out the 30 minutes of admiring himself in the mirror.

  • wac for hillary

    Jail?

  • LookingForwardTo2012

    lol!!!

  • Amy Crunch

    Ever hear of a dude named John Winston Lennon? Remember what he did to his name? Ever think that maybe the reason Barack Hussein Obama is keeping the name is he wants it?

    And if he does want it – what’s wrong with people using it?

    Ever think there might be more than one demographic involved here? One that thinks that flag pins are stupid, one that thinks that pledging allegiance to a whitey country is against one’s best interests – and one that thinks the opposite?

    And that the totality of the idea is to keep appealing to both sides?

    I’m reminded of the Obama greenhouse over at Wikipedia. Early in this campaign they’d maneuvered the articles for Hillary and Obama to read ‘Hillary Rodham Clinton’ and ‘Barack Obama’. Hill was also described as basically ‘just another candidate’ while Obama was the leading candidate, and so forth.

    Those who are supposed to know Obama’s middle name is Hussein already know it. They accept the ‘Manchurian candidate’ scenario. They’re patient.

    That at any rate, my friends, is the theory. I’m not saying I agree with it. But it is a theory and it deserves to be heard and discussed – not censored because someone dares use a name someone chooses to keep.

    Last I heard there’s been only two prior cases like this. And in the first case it’s someone known as YAHWEH. And in the other case it’s someone known as VOLDEMORT. In both cases one is not supposed to utter or otherwise use the name. Are we claiming Obama is one of these? I think not. Thank you.

  • fif

    Is this guy like 15 yrs. old?

    MY IDEA! I WAS FIRST!

    What universe is he living in if he thinks ANYTHING is done in DC that is not political? This is just another example of his complete lack of experience. He has not had to deal with the machinations of Congress to get anything difficult done, and he is naive enough to believe it will all magically change when he gets there. It’s called human nature Clueless.

  • wac for hillary

    Somebody needs to remind this guy that he is being paid as a Senator not as a presidential candidate. I would like to say that the people of Illinois are definitely not getting their money’s worth.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Hell of a torpedo.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I sure hope not. It is getting very tiring and disgusting…

  • May

    Obama is the hypocrit of all hypocrits. Denouncing the interjection of politics while standing there in front of reporters interjecting HIS politics.

  • witness08

    NOT ON TOPIC, OBOT EMAIL JUST RECEIVED. I RECOMMEND WE DO THE OPPOSITE AND VOTE YES, INSTEAD OF THE NO AS PER THEIR INSTRUCTION.
    I’m sick of the Palin Bashing!

    > Please take two seconds to cast your vote!
    > >
    > > PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the Republicans knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with YES votes.
    > >
    > > I know — it’s only a poll. But it will be reported on PBS, picked up by mainstream media and can influence undecided voters in swing states.
    > >
    > > Please do two things — takes 20 seconds.
    > >
    > > 1) Here is the direct link, or…paste it into your browser and vote yourself.
    > > Here’s the link:

    http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

    > 2) Then send this to every single Obama-Biden voter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.
    > >
    > > The last thing we need is PBS having to say our viewers think Sarah Palin is qualified.

    I THINK SHE’S MORE QUALIFIED THAN B.O. AND SHE’S NOT RUNNING FOR POTUS

  • tminu

    they’re trying to imply his eye ptosis is a stroke, it’s probably from one of the many beatings he received

    strokes are handled like emergencies these days, with drugs used to forestall brain hypoxia, time is of the essence….

    so here McCain is on Capitol Hill performing admirably and that’s the best they can come up with

  • moi61537

    Barnie Frank, along w/ Schumer and Dodd blocked Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform. I hope the three of them will be criminally liable for the bribes they took from Countrywide and Macs. There corruption has brought the US financial system to its knees. People are losing their jobs and homes because these three forestalled reform. When they pass on, I sure hope there is an extremely hot place for them in Hades. Frank, Schumer and Dodd, greed first, country last.

  • http://tersaona.net MoodSwingeR

    Before the banks take more money out of your pockets, go straight to the bank and get your money out.

  • SJ

    Obama keep saying the presidential candidates should not be involved because cameras take over and politics set in, but yet I keep seeing him giving press conferences one after the other, he is hitting every network with his take on this bail out and if he is in change and just telling everyone what to do.

    This man is such a idiot, I am sure some republicans in the house are having a good laugh at his butt when they look at him talking to the press as if he got to Washington and everyone just started to quake in their boots and got things going.

    This situation is serious but someone needs to tell Obama he is making an ass of his self now lol

  • KathyNeocon

    Thanks for the heads-up. Just voted yes.

  • SLW

    And buy a new barometer because the winds are changing and it’s not in Obama’s direction.

  • Maverick

    Bush looks severely worried about this crisis. McCain was there but no trace of Oblahma.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Just voted.

    Current results:

    Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

    Yes 49%
    No 49%
    Not Sure 0%

  • SJ

    He must of been outside giving an interview to the press as to what he instructed them to put in the package lol

  • Maverick

    Nancy and Reid were stopped for going on vacation which they were going to do because they still had no idea what to do and neither does Nobama as he lay in his lawn chair near the beach in FL

  • SJ

    He will get two teleprompters and still lose the debate

  • tminu

    He sounds like Alexander Haig

  • fif

    WHAT?! Are you telling me that Jeff Zuker of NBC is involved in this ad?!

  • jangles

    Be sure to check in on the new post over at By the Fault by Charles Lemos. It is on the blame game and notes a CT news article taking Dodd to the woodshed. Informative and revealing. He is planning to do a series and I am looking forward to them. We can not solve this problem if we do not understand the causes and the criminals.

  • katmandu

    I just came across a link, a NYT article from 1999 talking about Franklin Raines loosening credit to risky lenders, and the American Enterprise Institute (a conservative think tank filled with Republicans) warning about what would happen if flush times ended:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

    So make no mistake — the current crisis started on the Democratic watch. (note: this saddens me, because I thought Clinton was a great president — but you can’t be right about everything)

    As one commenter above noted, Obama likes to take credit after everyone else has done all the work. Here’s an example when he did it on immigration reform:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/23/AR2008032301706.html

    After weeks of arduous negotiations, on April 6, 2006, a bipartisan group of senators burst out of the “President’s Room,” just off the Senate chamber, with a deal on new immigration policy.

    As the half-dozen senators — including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) — headed to announce their plan, they met Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who made a request common when Capitol Hill news conferences are in the offing: “Hey, guys, can I come along?” And when Obama went before the microphones, he was generous with his list of senators to congratulate — a list that included himself.

    “I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, Dick Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who’ve actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out,” he said.

    To Senate staff members, who had been arriving for 7 a.m. negotiating sessions for weeks, it was a galling moment. Those morning sessions had attracted just three to four senators a side, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) recalled, each deeply involved in the issue. Obama was not one of them. But in a presidential contest involving three sitting senators, embellishment of legislative records may be an inevitability, Specter said with a shrug.

    A second example cited by the Post article occurred in March 2008 amid the Bear Stearns collapse, ss Obama sought to take credit for Dodd’s work.

    Just this week, as the financial markets were roiling in the wake of the Bear Stearns collapse, Obama made another claim that was greeted with disbelief in some corners of Capitol Hill. On March 13, Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, and Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, unveiled legislative proposals to allow the Federal Housing Administration to guarantee new loans from banks willing to help homeowners in or approaching foreclosure. [snip]

    Yet Obama on Monday appeared to seek top billing on Dodd’s proposal.

    “At this moment, we must come together and act to address the housing crisis that set this downturn in motion and continues to eat away at the public’s confidence in the market,” Obama said. “We should pass the legislation I put forward with my colleague Chris Dodd to create meaningful incentives [blah blah][snip]

    Dodd did say that Obama supported the bill, as does Clinton. But he could not offer pride of authorship to the candidate he wants to see in the White House next year.

    So there you have it. Mr, Workaholic.

  • SalG

    Here is some info about Republican thinking on the plan:

    http://tinyurl.com/3o5dsx

  • Maverick

    Add in gives orders to invade citizens homes in their sleep and take them away to the concentration camps if they voted for Mccain

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Thanks for the links!

  • Newly Independent

    What do you folks think of the new attack on McCain’s health? Will it work? Backfire? How should it be countered?

    Looks desperate.

    The buzzards are beginning to circle around Obama’s presidential campaign.

  • Helen S

    I’m confused, The University says that the debate is costing them Five Million Dollars. Who is putting up that type of money for a debate ?
    Since we (the USA) are 24th in the world interms of education, why not use that Five Million to provide scholoships for the young people.
    I think personally that Obama is more interested in being on TV or in the Newspaper. I do not trust this man and the more he says the less I like him.

  • K Lynne

    Did you hear how Harry Reid is trying to slide a ban on oil shale into the bailout plan??

    No wonder they’re having a hard time coming to an agreement…

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/reid-tries-to-sneak-oil-shale-ban-back-into-legislation/

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Is he going to have another Greek temple on the set?

    Seriously, I think you’re right. Obama just wants his mug on TV. He’s worse than a has been Reality Tv star.

    When he loses (“when” and not “if”) I hope we are spared a Reality TV Series.

  • K Lynne

    I should say he’s trying to slide an extension to the oil shale ban into the bailout plan. The ban expires today? tomorrow? If it hasn’t expired already, it does very soon.

  • Maverick

    Confidence in the U.S. financial market erodes at home and abroad with China reportedly saying no more lending funds to American banks.

    Confidence in the U.S. financial market erodes at the thought of Obama as president

  • dee4hill

    LOL!!!! Good one!

  • fif

    It’s fine to vote, but ultimately, who cares what the bots think? I own my vote and will use it wisely Nov. 4th.

  • Maverick

    This is why I like Sarah the reformer. If we do not clean up the Dem corruption we have no hope of accomplishing anything or solving any problems. All Hill can say is people are human..what?
    The problems are caused by the corruption in congress namely Pelosi and her whole Dem congress.
    This is not a blame statement. But this is where they can begin to repair the damage. Congress raided every committee fund available in the last 2 years and they are tapped out. Bush looks terrified.

  • fif

    So 5 million for a debate trumps a $700 BILLION negotiation in Congress?

    Why is ANYONE taking this crap seriously? One stupid debate can’t wait a week? Obama is petty and supercilious. It has been clearly reported that McCain was called to DC by Paulson and leading Republicans to broker a deal. Is he supposed to say “No, sorry, Obama wants to talk about it for 2-3 hours instead?”

  • Maverick

    Theya re sneaky crooks who have been doing this all along and hoping no one reads the bill. Mac knows they are famous for this crap.

  • SJ

    I would really love to know what makes Obama and the democrats believe that everyone in America is willing to go along with this free money for housing, credit and what ever else they want to bail out.

    I know I for one do not like this idea, if people are in financial difficulty great help them but make them work it off somehow, not this nonsense that you don’t have to do jack squat and all you bills are taken care of by the kindness of the government.

    I think all sensible people be it democrat or republican should have a serious issue with this, and say so not let their dam political leaning cloud what is the right thing to do, this bail out is madness.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I covered this poll in my blog:

    http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/09/the-palin-poll/

  • Arabella Trefoil

    It’s part of Obama’s reparations program.

  • Will Smith
  • Chicago Joe

    …and then take credit for every possible shred of anything. He sucks.

  • Diana

    Mattew, Brit informed us today that Johnson is STILL working for Obama! So he has this guy still working for him and he’s going to work to solve this?

    Found this on Politico

    Former Fannie Mae chairman Jim Johnson was dumped from Obama’s vice presidential search team, but he’s still playing a behind-the-scenes role on the campaign.

    Former Senator Tom Daschle, a top Obama backer, emailed a select list this afternoon that he and Johnson would be leading a briefing intended largely for Clinton’s campaign brain trust next month.

    “Jim Johnson and I have scheduled another informal breakfast discussion and update on the campaign early next month,” he wrote to a list including Senator John Kerry, James Carville, and Richard Holbrooke, as well as Clinton’s former top campaign aides, including Howard Wolfson, Geoff Garin, and Harold Ickes.

    Johnson’s involvement comes at a moment when political association with the failed mortgage giants is particularly toxic. He was already the subject of a McCain ad attacking Obama.

    http://tinyurl.com/4cu74g

    Have to wait till tomorrow for the transcripts from today on Fox.

  • just me

    Just some light fun

    Whitehouse farmer creates Sarah Palin corn maze

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2089990/posts

  • just me

    Senator Lindsey Graham just on fox

    There was never a deal it is total lies lies he said

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428084,00.html

  • athy

    No epiphany

    If I were a memeber of Sen McCain’s campaign team, I would produce an ad -a serious ad-
    that refers directly to this Obama ad (with facial scar ) .

    I would keep it at 60 seconds or less And I would ask the voters to ask themselves-what is the purpose of an ad like the one produced by Sen obama’s campaign (or the DNC)?

    I would show a snippet of the Obama ad and ask the voters “CHANGE?…or DIRTY POLITICS as usual?

    People will see more and more each day the strength of character and integrity of McCain & his team versus Obama and Axelrod et al…

    Perhaps McCain’s ad could also showcase previous ads produced by Obama earlier in his career as he smeared /eliminated former opponents from earlier races?

    Then the voters could see that this is how Sen obama operates.

    Again- I will say that Sen obama is trying to pull Sen McCain / Gov Palin into the gutter to fight him.

    Sen Obama is nothing but a professional campaigner-a streetfighter who fights in the gutter. If Mccain is led into the gutter to fight Obama-McCain WILL LOSE.
    McCain must stay away from dirty politics and protect the well-earned (NOT BOUGHT)brand identity of himself and his candidacy.

    this brand identity is INTEGRITY.

    Just get the truth out there Sen McCain & Gov Palin…Just get the truth out there.

    Sen Obama CAN NOT do this.
    He will not be able to fight McCain on McCain’s level-Obama will lose-Obama dares not get the truth out about himself or his record.

    McCain campaign team just needs to keep pointing this out to the voters…in my humble opinion.

  • http://www.governuts.us Agust304

    I just heard Sen Graham tell Gretta on Fox that one of the the ridiculous components of the Democrat deal was that 20% of the total was going to ACORN to manage!

    $140,000,000,000.00 to Obama’s precinct organization!

  • just me

    OMG what is that???

    That is scary

  • tminu

    OMYGOD ACORN? THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL!

  • JP49

    I just heard Senator Lindsay Graham on Fox say that the republicans, especially Senator McCain, did not like the deal that Paulsen and the democrats cooked up. One provision was that 20% of the money was to be given to ACORN. Can you imagine that corrupt corporation being brought into this? These stinking democrats have to be run out of office. This is despicable. Greta and the rest of the media keeping referring to Senator McCain coming back to Washington as a stunt. Even though Paulsen contacted Senator Graham asking him to get Senator McCain to come back and help convince the republicans to get the plan done. Some plan the democrats put out. More pork for their buddies and corruption.

  • just me

    Major donor jumps ship From Clinto to McCain

    Miguel Lausell

  • Andrew

    OH!! HELL NO!!!!

    ACORN IS GOING TO ADMINISTER 140 BILLION DOLLARS AND THIS IS THE SAME DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION CONVICTED OF FRAUD AND CAN’T EVEN GET VOTER REGISTRATION RIGHT?

    GET THE DEMOCRATS OUT OF OFFICE. THEY ARE TRYING TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE MORTGAGES THAT THE LENDERS NEVER CHECKED THE CREDIT OR QUALIFICATIONS ON.

    THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS STUPID BAIL OUT. NO ONE WILL PAY MY MORTGAGE BECAUSE I LIVE WITHIN MY MEANS.

    OH!! HELL NO!!!!!

  • Papoose

    Remember Tom and Carol and Bob and Alice?

    I do vaguely.

    Lmao:

    John and Cindy and Bill and Hill…2008…and Todd and Sarah.

    I love this Movie. dig it.

  • Deep Truths

    Agree. Its not like whatever town in Mississippi has something better to do next week.

  • Deep Truths

    Excellent recap of a tragic comedy. Too bad its real life.

  • Artemis

    fif–Well put!

  • Deb

    I was in the kitchen and only half heard what Sen Graham said- but I did catch 20% of something in the bailout going to ACORN.

    ACORN??!?! WTF is really going ON in OUR country?

    UNREAL.

    I’m about to spit NAILS

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    It raises a red flag for critics. Better to just avoid it and stick to policy.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    McCain released his medical records and a 1,000 page report. Are they just hoping people don’t use Google?

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    He’s already good at talking out of both sides of his mouth, not to mention throwing his voice from his ass while he moves his lips.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    Do you know where you’ll be when the mothership lands?

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    Where was Barney Frank when this whole mess was blowing up? That’s right. MIA. The Dems couldn’t have worse spokespeople right now than him, Dodd, Reid and Pelosi. Send in the clowns!

  • Deb

    Here’s what Sen Graham said:

    GRAHAM: He’s working the phones trying to find a way forward that would protect the taxpayer…and this deal that’s on the table now is not a very good deal…20% of the money that should go to retired debt that will be created to solve this problem winds up in the housing organization called ACORN that is an absolute ill-run enterprise. And I can’t believe that we would take money away from debt retirement to put it in a housing program that doesn’t work.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    It’s gimmicky, childish and doesn’t help voters make up their minds. But Politico reported McCain is rumored to be on a flight from DC tomorrow, destination unknown.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    You got it. Well said.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    Jen Rubin wrote about this, too. $100K for a garden that never grew and that ended up in the pocket of a campaign “volunteer.”

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    SHOCKER! McCain is old!!!

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    One could conclude that Harvard is the Bayonne, NJ of the Ivy League. Nothing good ever comes of there.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    Slate Magazine actually ran a sympathetic article with tips from speech coaches. It didn’t sound even a little condescending, and it would have been a help to anyone who might be interviewed.

  • Merry

    No wonder McCain didn’t say much in the WH meeting, he was probably too busy picking his jaw up off the floor. Acorn? Audacity indeed.

    No Resume
    No References
    No Job History
    NOBAMA!!

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    He was not exaggerating when he said this could be a financial Pearl Harbor, and he was referring to the Dems’ penchant for adding last-minute pork. The people who got us into this mess are still in office, and they have no shame.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    I love Lindsey Graham.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    Oh, yeah, the Republicans were looking for that. They call them “liberal grassroots operations rewarded for political muscle.” Thanks, Obama! Cheating taxpayers to fund voter fraud.

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    A housing program under investigation for embezzlement!

  • ziggy

    Hey, you seem to be forgetting that the “stupid bail-out” started out as a 3 page outline put together by republican White House, accompanied by the bold-faced assertion that if they didn’t get their blank check for $700 billion by Friday the whole country would go totally to hell by the middle of next week. They raised the specter of banking system failure, a stock market crash, bread lines, and global depression.

    This wasn’t the democrats’ idea. The democrats were at first incredulous, and then horrified by what the Bush administration was telling them. Henry Paulson, Ben Bernake, and Christopher Cox spent days testifying, terrorizing republicans and democrats alike to the point that they were ready to sign off on anything. All three are George W. Bush appointees.

    Anyone who raised doubts was immediately accused of not understanding the extremity of the emergency. It was suggested that anyone standing in the way was putting the nation in terrible danger.

    What does this bullsh-t remind you of? Remember the lead up to the invasion of Iraq? There was the same disinformation campaign designed to promote fear. And the accusations that you were unpatriotic–possibly a traitor–if you didn’t get on board with the plan.

    I think it’s very d-mn odd that this “crisis” should hit just weeks away from the election.

    I think it’s very d-mn odd that McCain–whose understanding of economics is, by his own admission, minimal, should be portrayed by the Bush administration as the guy who can selflessly break off his campaign and ride to the rescue.

    The democrats aren’t going for it. Nor are responsible republicans. The public smells a rat.

    McCain is prepared to jump either way. He’ll try to be either the guy who rallies the troops to get the bail-out passed, or the guy who rallies the troops to block it. It all depends on which way his campaign advisors think the wind is blowing.

    Meanwhile, Obama takes heat because he’s been slow to take a position. Good for Obama. A smart leader waits to discover what the actual facts are before acting.

  • Leisa

    Barney Frank is scared… he has too much to hide, just like his other dirty friends.

  • just me

    LOL Papoose

    Gee whizz…Deb I am spitting nails with you!

  • kgirl1028

    It’s called self preservation. when you have your fingers in the cooke jar you wouldn’t want to reach an agreement before the hammer comes down on your dirty little fingers.

  • ASU

    Pelosi and Reid are some leaders. You’ve got the majority but not enough spine to pass your bailout. Complete jokes.

  • Elle

    I can see a t-shirt with this on one front – “I have seen how he helped in Ill. and Chicago and I don’t want his help.” and a picture of Obama’s Chicago slums on the back! :-)

  • Susan Trechak

    Boy, Obama’s behavior really fits the clinical definition of “borderline personality disorder”!

    To the rootin’ tootin’ Obama Blowhard Upstairs:

    Your democratic muzzlers are the ones that rebuked McCain’s banking oversight bill of TWO years ago.

    I thought this SMACKED at the time and still DO! Unlike you Obot followers, I know how to THINK independently!

    Hard to believe that I was a left-of-center democrat up until now. Can’t even imagine the stupidity of THAT thought process anymore.

    How foolish those people sound to me now!

  • Susan Trechak

    Fool!

    It’s spineless to NEVER take a position.

    Do you doubt me?

    Voting “present” 131 times is clear evidence that Obama is nothing but a shrinking, weak-kneed, spineless fence-rider.

    I really dislike fence-riders in particular.

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