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Republican Bullshit on Obama

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No one would mistake me for an Obama enthusiast. But I must speak out about the nonsense being spun by some outraged Republicans over a quote from Bob Woodward’s book on Obama’s war strategy. Obama told Woodward:

“We can absorb a terrorist attack. We’ll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever . . . we absorbed it and we are stronger.”

A reasonable statement in my view. But some Republicans–John Bolton and Liz Cheney to be specific–are soiling themselves and suffering a case of the vapors. Here’s Cheney’s reaction:

“Americans expect our President to do everything possible to defend the nation from attack. We expect him to use every tool at his disposal to find, defeat, capture and kill terrorists. We expect him to deter attacks by making clear to our adversaries that an attack on the United States will carry devastating consequences. Instead, President Obama is reported to have said, ‘We can absorb a terrorist attack.’ This comment suggests an alarming fatalism on the part of President Obama and his administration. Once again the President seems either unwilling or unable to do what it takes to keep this nation safe. The President owes the American people an explanation.”

Note to Bolton and Cheney–STFU.

You would think that Obama had suggested he would let Osama Bin Laden rape every man and woman in the United States. But he didn’t. He said something very sane and rational. The terrorists do not have the military force or capability of the Soviet Union. Although we will do everything in our power to prevent a terrorist attack, we will not be defeated or collapse because of terrorism.

These stupid Republican assholes should spend their time attacking Obama on actual substance rather than try to spend a sane statement into something resembling a white flag of surrender. There are other revelations in Woodward’s book detailing Obama’s rejection of requests from his Generals that are worthy of more scrutiny and outrage. This terrorism quote, however, is a non-issue and will be ignored by any serious national security analyst who is worth a damn.

  • Juan

    Obama is a very WEAK President!

  • Peggy Sue

    Thank you for this, Larry.  I’m neither a fan nor an apologist for the President, but the Republicans are ridiculous with some of these accusations and off-the-wall statements.  This is a perfect example of taking a comment, and then adding the spin and hyperbole to create faux rage.  The last people in the world I want to hear from on the subject of terrorism is Cheney or Bolton, masters of propagating sheer nonsense that has caused on-going damage to this country.

    I agree, btw.  Lock them in a closet and tell both to STFU. They’ve done enough damage.  You might try that on the Eye of the Newt, too, another rabble-rouser who can’t keep his bloody mouth shut.

    POTUS may owe explanations on a number of fronts, but answering this stupid accusation isn’t one of them.

    Ugh!

  • EllenD

    Although we will do everything in our power to prevent a terrorist attack, we will not be defeated or collapse because of terrorism.

    That which does not kill us makes us stronger – Nietzsche

  • Alybe

    The quote blew me away… for a different reason.  Anybody who thinks we are stronger because of 9/11 is delusional.  The cost of 9/11 has cost the USA trillions, shredded our Constitution, and weakened the underpinnings of this country due to the debt and on going wars.  In what way are we stronger?  We had Bush for 2 terms and that enabled Obama.  Stronger… i don’t think so!!!

  • joseph

    Larry, more outrageous is,  Liz Cheney, John Bolton and anybody capable of doing simple arithmetic i.e  1+1=2 ,  knows that 911 was a false flag operation to advance the “war on terror”. The PNAC (neo conservative/zionist think tank) laid out the whole scenario in advance, 2000, as clear as day in their writings, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”. Anybody who sez different needs to get a fking clue. Cheney and Bolton and the rest of the establishment, Obama included, are complicit in the cover up, while pushing this phoney terror propaganda as a means to pass new laws that take away the constitutional rights of all americans. The Patriot Act passed in the dead of night with NOBODY reading that fking bill either, has basically castrated the rights of the average american.

  • EllenD

    I think we already discussed Reagan’s optimism versus Obama pessimism. I don’t see everything in dollars and cents. There are challenges to the people that I think Americans will always face and transcend no matter the faults of the president at the time.
    I believe ultimately in the resiliency of the American people.

  • creeper

    I do not find that a reasonable statement from the president of the United States.  I think it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that terrorists cannot conquer us…at least militarily. We can handle anything they can dish out.  Who among us does not believe that?

    But hearing him say it using the words he did I got the eerie feeling that Barry might somehow look forward to another terrorist attack on the US.  I’d have felt less paranoid if he’d used a term like “weather” or “prevail over” or “endure” or anything else that wasn’t so damn passive.  But “absorb”?  It’s a benign word that should never be used in reference to the malignancy of terrorism.  It almost sounds like an invitation for them to try again.

  • hattip

    Really Larry, that is an absurd thing for an American President to say. We are not stronger, and much of the reason why has been the democrats faulre to support ther WOT and their digusting politicalization of it and all the attendant demagoguery, agi-prop and electiionerring propganda.

    Over the last decade the great harm that the Left and the Democrat Partyy has cause this control is deep, lasting and abiding. Let us hope that it is not terminal.

    It most certainly has been intentional/

    It is particularly hipocritcal to hear the GOP politicains (which is hardly “the GOP”) make a perfectly valid point and then make these sort of feeble accusations against them after 8 solid years of just rabid vilification of GWB, the GOP and Conservatives in general, the vast majority of which was bassed on cherrypicking, taking things out of context, distortions and outright fabrications.

    That you think that the GOP is somehow out of line shows just how morally depraved you are. It is almost as absurd as what Obama has said.

    Truly, you Democrats do not live on this earth, and what ever planet you do habitate you live their as overgrown childeren as well.

    You need to grow up.

  • Janis

    “Americans expect our President to do everything possible to defend the nation from attack.”

    Well, whose watch did it happen on, Dick?

  • Diana L. C.

    joseph, I am not sure about the “false flag operation” idea, but I do agree with you completely about the stupid Patriot Act. 

  • Diana L. C.

    http, I’ll mention that Larry is not a Democrat.  We all know this if we’ve followed this blog very long.  Larry’s posts against O are well-known. 

  • Diana L. C.

    Yes, it makes my skin crawl to have to listen to anything from the mouth of Bolton (Does anyone else think he looks like Yosemite Sam?) or either Cheny when it comes to the state of our national security. 

    Thanks, Larry, for keeping us grounded in reality.

  • thinker

    I also think that it was the wrong thing for a president to say.  It sounded callous and cavlier.  How can he talk so clinically about an incident that costs so many lives and so much pain, suffering and grief to so many thousands of Americans.   It just reiforces the impression of so many of us that he lacks empthy.

  • Larry Johnson

    Your stupidity is so vast I don’t know where to start.  First explain how we are “weaker?”  We know more about the radical Islamic networks than we ever have and have been more effective in tracking them down and taking them out.  You could make a case we are more inconvenienced.  That’s a valid point.  And morally depraved?  What is immoral or depraved about pointing out an injustice?  You are a disturbed soul.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Well, I okay with the “absorption” as long as it’s GZ is on his head!

    >:o :-D >:o

  • Kbentleyis

    Larry, I don’t agree with your statments.  What is meant by absorb?  Does it mean we can do without another skyscraper or the population of Indiana?  I also don’t like the smiplifying the intent of terrorists.  They were very successful once and it doesn’t take an army to cause such travesties.

    I needed to hear confidence and security from our president, which I haven’t heard up to this point.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Exactly. 

    Any decent “human being” would not have been “clinical” in their description when they knew it was going to be “quoted” in a book.

    The idiot is a moron.  Why do we continue to expect what he is incapable of giving?

    I think everyone knows exactly what Obama meant because he is a complete Narcissist and incapable of caring about the outcome of another attack on Americans. He just would be affected if it interferred with his golf game or ice cream time. 

    We absorbed that “man-made” disaster down here in Texas didn’t we?  You know, the mass murder and assault at Fort Hood.

    >:o

  • Peter

    You may be right on this specific instance…but Obama has made it clear in many speeches and through many actions that terrorism isn’t very high on his agenda. On the contrary, after seeing how the country rallied around W after 9/11 I think Obama would welcome another attack…Could be his last chance for reelection…

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Morons have been running this country for years and thius administration only continues in that line.

    I have said and say again, that any “war” or terror or whatever the spinmeisters want to call it today must start with fortifying our borders. Anything less is patently stupid and doomed to failure. Why in the hell can’t these idiots get somethingas fundamental as that?

    Oh, we’re talking about politicians. Never mind.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Morons have been running this country for years and this administration only continues in that line of slack jawed, mouth-breathing stupidity, as in “duh”.  
     
    I have said and say again, that any “war” or terror or whatever the spinmeisters want to call it today must start with fortifying our borders. Anything less is patently stupid and doomed to failure. Why in the hell can’t these idiots get somethingas fundamental as that?  
     
    Oh, we’re talking about politicians. Never mind.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Morons have been running this country for years and this administration only continues in that line of slack jawed, mouth-breathing stupidity, as in “duh”.    
       
    I have said and say again, that any “war” or terror or whatever the spinmeisters want to call it today must start with fortifying our borders. Anything less is patently stupid and doomed to failure. Why in the hell can’t these idiots get something as fundamental as that?    
       
    Oh, we’re talking about politicians. Never mind.

  • Peter

    Watch the administration reinforce the borders of the USA against the rogue state Arizona ;)

  • carol haka, Matzo

    I on the other hand would be requesting access to all of Obama’s communications.

    >:o

  • Katmoon

    Foolish if the President said it. Regarding Cheney and Bolton, it isn’t like I am going to start listening to them now. Obama makes an ass out of himself without any Reupeublican help.

  • Peter

    Watch the administration reinforce the borders of the USA against the rogue state Arizona ;)

  • carol haka, Matzo

    I want some of that cake!

    :-D

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Add Texas to that list!

    :-D

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    That One should have been more reticent about running his cavernous mouth prior to engaging what little brain he actually possesses. Irrespective of the debatable point about whether we could “absorb” another attack or not, he should have kept that to himself or between him and his close advisors and not jibber-jabbered it in the presence of a reporter. He’s a walking and constantly talking disaster in the making.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    This is not language that should even be considered by a POTUS.  This, along with his backdoor attempts of allowing unlimited amnesty makes me feel he’s asking for help to dismantle America faster than his administration can accomplish it on their own.

    Just heard that many tests previously covered by insurance will now be considered “preventative” and will be required out of pocket pay…mammograms, pap smears (already found out the hard way on that one), colonscopy ($2000), and who knows what more?  This along with premium hikes of (I receive a 10% each year just normally) of 20% has effectively instituted the death panels.  Guess Sarah wasn’t so dumb after all.

    Getting this POS administration out of office is strictly for survival at this point.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Maybe he means we could “absorb” the loss of AZ…Just think if he could give it to Mexico and the cartels, how much wider the door would be open to the rest of us.

  • Katmoon

    Repubican even. Carol the cake was good! Hey whats your update on the job hunt? 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    He’s Elmer Fudd, Diana L.C.

    Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Yeah, Sarah just tweeted Liz’s response.  I support Sarah and Liz and John. >:o

  • joseph

    Diana L.C. – Puhleeeeze! There is no way in hell that any air craft, let alone a passenger jet would get within 10 miles of the Pentagon, 45 minutes after it become clear that the US was under attack. The hole in the pentagon couldnt fit a 727. Further, the twin towers could not have disintigrated before your eyes in a matter of 11 seconds without the use of military grade explosives. There was no passenger jet crashed in Shanksville, Pa,, ONLY a hole in the ground. Finally, WTC 7 wasn’t hit by a plane, yet it fell perfectly into its own footprint at freefall speed, in what appeared to be CLASSIC DEMOLITION. GEEEZUS FRICKIN KRYST, what more do you evidence of lack of do you need? Are you aware that more money was spent investigating Clinton Lewinski, than was spent investigating 911? You arent naive enough to believe that the US could have had Bin Laden 50 times over? He is nothing but a face they use to perpetrate a police stae, global take over

  • carol haka, Matzo

    I’m broke times a million! 

    I have skill and history and ability -  no one cares!

    My sister’s son is getting married on the 9th, and I’m not going to be able to go. 

    I’m hostile!

    :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’(

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Shame “That One” cannot just be “absorbed” from where (whence)? he came.
    No book needed, we have seen and heard enough. Thank you!!

  • Nobama4me

    It may be reasonable, but it is distasteful to hear a President say that.I may be wrong, but the way I read it it’s like saying that 3000 people were expendable, as far as the Country, as a whole,  is concerned. Perhaps he didn’t intended that way, but that’s how it came accross to me (and, admittedly, I am always ready to think the worst of him).

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Yeah, Annie, anyone who could vote for that blithering idiot after this unmitigated disaster of a first term should be placed in an institution.

  • Larry Johnson

    Joseph,
    you do not know what you are talking about.  i have good friends who watched the fucking plane fly into the Pentagon.  Take your nonsense elsewhere.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Well, ~~JustMe~~, he’s Landrew doing all the absorbing via blue Kool-Aid, so it isn’t likely he’ll get the same treatment.

  • Katmoon

    Not really “liking” (not one little bit) it that you are having this much trouble, I am sorry, especially about going to the wedding. Hang in ther woman; I know you are still trying, just keep at it.

  • joseph

    I’d like to know why Code Pink hasn’t tried to make a citizens arest on Obama, Biden, Clinton and Gates? Where is Cindy Sheehan? Oh, I get it, it was a political agenda all along :D Obama picked right up where Dubya left off, and suddenly all of the outrage has disipated. Suddenly the loss of life in Iraq and Afghanistan is acceptable. Typical hypocrites.

  • typical gram cracker

    Who let the loons out?  Don’t feed the troll folks.  They’ll only come back for more.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Where is OA when he is needed???

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Here’s my opinion:
    First, anybody from the great state of Wyoming is more than OK in my book. They raise ‘em right out there—IMO.
    But more importantly, Liz Cheney has 5 children and a law degree, among other achievements, and is one of the most articulate people, ever, on news shows, in my opinion. She never “uhs” or ”ums” her message. She’s always clear and thoughtful in her responses. And extremely intelligent.
    She is one of the most impressive young women…… and we need thousands more like her.
    She makes me proud of my gender. And that’s no bullshit.

  • AC

    Note to Bolton and Cheney–STFU
    ************************
    Nice one Larry!

  • rosa

    I know personally there was a construction crew working near shanksville and saw the pieces of plane right afterwards . they heard it coming down.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Katmoon—-what a precious picture!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    carolhaka—-hang in there, kiddo!!!!!

  • getfitnow

    I agree, creeper. His “turning the page” on the Iraq war struck me the same way–devoid of feeling and understanding.

  • Nobama4me

    …”he didn’t intended that way”

    he didn’t intend it that way” of course. Apologies to the queen’s English! :)

  • AC

    There are planes (jets) taking off and landing every minute of every day within less than 1/2 mile from National Airport.

  • rosa

    talking about shanksville

  • nickoury

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    I’m sorry, in this case Larry, you are wrong.

    It sounds just like “you win some, you loose some, but in the end you’ll survive”.

    One can bluff an opponent is the game of poker, or even in a war game scenario, but the President of the USA can never in any way, at any time, voice an opinion that allows an adversary to consider the citizens of America as fodder. Defending the country and its population is the CIC’s primary job, in the face of all threats and against all attacks, here and abroad, without qualifications. A sitting president, and even a former one, can never state publicly that the people of this country are expendable. It is not the president’s job to be philosophically cavalier towards them.

    Too many have sacrificed their lives defending America in the last 234 years to let such a blatantly ignorant statement leave one’s lip’s, and it is not redeemed by simply ending it with praising this great country’s strength and resiliency.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    Shouldn’t  LIZARD cheney be feeding her dad some blood or something? and who in the F*ck is she anyway besides the CHUDS daughter?

  • nickoury

    I’m sorry, in this case Larry, you are wrong.  
     
    It sounds just like “you win some, you loose some, but in the end you’ll survive”.  
     
    One can bluff an opponent is the game of poker, or even in a war game scenario, but the President of the USA can never in any way, at any time, voice an opinion that allows an adversary to consider the citizens of America as fodder. Defending the country and its population is the CIC’s primary job, in the face of all threats and against all attacks, here and abroad, without qualifications. A sitting president, and even a former one, can never state publicly that the people of this country are expendable. It is not the president’s job to be philosophically cavalier towards them.  
     
    Too many have sacrificed their lives defending America in the last 234 years to let such a blatantly ignorant statement leave one’s lip’s, and it is not redeemed by simply ending it with praising this great country’s strength and resiliency.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Tex-Mex—-You might want to read her resume’……you might find it impressive.
    IMO she should be judged by her own achievements.

  • jbjd

    thinker writes, “It sounded callous and cavlier.” (sic)

    But whatever he said sound this way!  I can imagine hearing these words spoken by, say, Dr. MLK, Jr.  They sound totally different.

  • joseph

    Larry, are you telling me that our national defense / military was THAT inept?  The Pentagon of all places? There are cameras covering every square inch of that compound. Where is the footage? Why werent ground to air missles fired?  As you know, there is an air force base within 10 miles. Why’d the plane go out of its way to fly into the unoccupied part of the Pentagon? Where were all of the bodies? Did they vaporize?  Where was the wing damage to the wall where the planes engines would have penetrated? There should have been HUGE pieces of fusalage, landing gear and tail section. Clean up would have taken weeks.

  • joseph

    and Larry, it’s no secret that a plane may have hit the Pentagon. If one did, it was likely an unmanned Global Hawk w /missle, which would mesh perfectly with the size of the hole, the amount of rings that were penetrated, and the lack of substantive debri on the lawn.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    And the asshole (sorry, but I can’t hold back anymore) just announced that “he didn’t do enough to sell us on the healthcare plan.”  Funny, anything that’s good usually doensn’t have to be “sold”.  He’s a bad used car salesman.  My concern is if he Repubs are able to take the majority in both houses, will merely de-funding this horror do the trick?  It seems to me the thing has to be thrown out and start from scratch. 

    Now they’re on the screen saying that “preventative care” is covered 100%.  Why then did Medicare hold seminars for physicians (and their billing staff) threatening to impose heavy fines if they sent any of these services in for payment trying to disguise them for treatment rather than “preventative tests”?  BTW, these seminars cost several thousand dollars out of pocket for the office staff (who are also liable to be fined) to teach them how to use the new billing codes.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    And the asshole (sorry, but I can’t hold back anymore) just announced that “he didn’t do enough to sell us on the healthcare plan.”  Funny, anything that’s good usually doesn’t have to be “sold”.  He’s a bad used car salesman.  My concern is if the Repubs are able to take the majority in both houses, will merely de-funding this horror do the trick?  It seems to me the thing has to be thrown out and start from scratch.   
     
    Now they’re on the screen saying that “preventative care” is covered 100%.  Why then did Medicare hold seminars for physicians (and their billing staff) threatening to impose heavy fines if they sent any of these services in for payment trying to disguise them for treatment rather than “preventative tests”?  BTW, these seminars cost several thousand dollars out of pocket for the office staff (who are also liable to be fined) to teach them how to use the new billing codes.

  • Samb

    carol haka Matzo-

    Run On Faith-  ;)

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Yes, he’s very blase about our safety.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    “Cake (dessert) is not a right.”  Michelle Obama aka The First Fat Ass.

  • HARP

    And I suppose all those passengers and crew are in an undisclosed location and will pop out on April 1/11 and say fooled ya.
    God you people are about as dense as a bag of hammers.

  • kafir

    USA is the number one super power in the Universe and looking at the quagmire USA is in, POTUS have a lot of answers for this state of affairs in USA!

    Americans deserve the best in the world and would not tolerate no: 9 ranking of world best in the world.

    If a POTUS could not attain this no:1 status for We The People, ( Potus Boss), then it’s time for POTUS to go, no need for a second term if the mindset is Americans don’t deserve the best in life of the Universe.

    Please pack and go home, please!

  • Tamara Cracker

    Yeah, that’s always the clincher, HARP. 

    Where are all of the people?  Man, 911 Ttuthers are stoooopid.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Pronto!

  • Tamara Cracker

    Larry, I thought that Obama’s comment was callous. 

    But maybe there WAS something behind the statement. 
    Could this be our October surprise?
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/homegrown-terror-threat-significant-officails/story?id=11699198

  • AbigailAdams

    jbjd:  Glad you’re here.  I wanted your take on this item from the GOP’s “Pledge to America” plan that goes to the rank and file GOP tomorrow:

    “The mandate that all lawmakers writing legislation must include a clause in the measure demonstrating that the bill would be “Constitutional” if enacted.”  I think I know the intent, but according to our earlier discussions, how will they be able to do that?Thanks,

  • EWard

    Larry

    Amen to Kbentleyis’s remarks!  Even if the threat of another terrorist attack is small, most Americans expect their President to be their defender.  When Obama uses the word “absorb” it reinforces the idea that we have a Chamberlain instead of a Churchill.   

  • sybilll

    I was more disturbed on his comments about his asinine announcement of the timeline to leave Afghanistan.  “I’ve got 2 years.  I can’t lose the whole Democratic Party”.  So, announcing our war strategy is OK, at the expense of military lives, as long as he satisfies his Democratic base?  That makes me want to throw things.   

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    I don’t like hearing him say we can absorb a terrorist attack.  It sounds like he’s thinking in the wrong direction.  Maybe the Republicans overreached in their reaction, but considering all the other crap Obama has been willing to visit upon us, I just don’t like to hear him even saying something like this.

  • Yttik

    Well, Larry Johnson, Republicans can be ridiculous. You’ll get no argument from me about that. However, Obama has a bad habit of using the wrong words, words that are going to trigger a negative emotional response. I suspect he does it because he’s way out of his element and trying to use words that are too big for him. Big boy words. Many times I’ve heard him use a word that just didn’t fit, even if it was technically correct. For example, calling people of mixed races, “mongrels.” Technically correct, but if he actually understood the meaning of the word he would know it has been used to disparage people. The word “mongrel” has a whole lot of baggage attached to it.

    “Absorb” is another such word. You don’t absorb a mugging, a rape, a terrorist attack, you fight back physically or through the legal system. People who are powerless are forced to sit there and “absorb” punches. 

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Well if he keeps the border wide open of course we’re going to have Al Quaida living among us.  And he encourages Muslims to think the U. S. is weak and he is one of them.

  • AbigailAdams

    I haven’t read Woodward’s book, so I don’t know all the context within which barry’s statement is made, but I know I’ve wrestled with these same thoughts, myself.

    I look at the the overall cost and average effectiveness of any government program and it seems to me that we’ve spent too much money on Homeland Security.  It seems like every domestic attack that has been made post-9/11 was not foiled because of anything that has been spent on anti-terrorism–though the WH has claimed that by knowing the American-turned-terrorist, Anwar al-Awlaki, the recent attempt in NY was foiled.  I don’t remember it going down that way, though.  I believe there was a citizen who was suspicious of a smoking car or something, wasn’t there?

    Our current Homeland Security philosophy shrieks a defensive “Please don’t hurt us!” as though we are in a state of permanent post-traumatic stress and our only avenues of fighting back are to impose further restraints on our freedom.  I don’t want to sound too hawkish, but whatever happened to deterrence? 

    I don’t know what the compromise on this is, but we should look at what the gov’t is trying to accomplish in the name of security and assess its effectiveness against the risk and the fact that no matter how much money and manpower is spent, we will never be completely safe from a determined “terrorist.”   

  • My Site (click to edit)

    He has no intention of giving AZ to Mexico.  He intends to make Americans absorb every third world peasant who can get across the border.  He’s going to give all of the United States to foreign people.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    And we are more divided than ever.

  • Breeze

    -

    OBAMA TOLD WOODWARD:

    “We can absorb a terrorist attack. We’ll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever . . . we absorbed it and we are stronger.”

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    ON READING THIS,

    THIS IS WHAT IMMEDIATELY SPRANG TO MY MIND:
    -  
     
     
    MUST READ:

    Ground Zero Imam Exposed Off-Mic  
     
    FrontPage Magazine,  
    by Nonie Darwish  
     
    Original Article  
     
     
    9/22/2010  
     
    “Bridge builder” Imam Feisal Abdel Rauf, the Muslim cleric behind plans for the Ground Zero mosque, has now been exposed as a man of shrewd cunning and as a calculating stealth jihadist who supports the creation of an Islamic State, “The Ummah,” right here in America.  
     
    An interview has surfaced in which, after being assured that it has ended, Imam Rauf speaks “off-the-record” and reveals some intriguing plans and views that he has regarding America and the world….

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Yes, considering what he is and his attitude toward this country I wouldn’t be surprised if he invited a terrorist attack.  Don’t know how it could possibly benefit him, but I wouldn’t be surprised.  RahmBo did say don’t waste a perfectly good crisis.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    If you think the Republican haven’t harmed this country, you need to grow up and wake up.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Hey, I heard Bolton is considering a run for prez in 2012.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Obama thinks all Americans are expendable except his special friends.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    first fat ass–Love that~

  • Tyrone

    Doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I just hope that the families of the people who will be killed can sustain the loss.

  • an observer

    The Hillbuzz boyz have it right: The party of stupid.
    The Republican Party has been handed a boatload of opportunities and they’re going to run on the same failed policies that created the conditions for an Obama election?

  • csuzeq

    Sorry, Larry, but I think it was a horrible statement for Barrakula to make.  He doesn’t give a damn about America and every time he opens his mouth he proves it!  You state that “we” will do everything in our power to prevent another terror attack.  Who exactly is “we”?  I don’t see the president would give a rip or try to stop one.  He seems to take great pleasure in the downfall of America.  He inflicts wounds and seems to relish in that.  Someone else in the administration is watching out for America?  Who?  I can’t think of anyone with any power who seems to give a damn.

    When Obama was elected, I was scared sh-tless.  Liberal friends said, “Well, even if he is as bad as you think he is, the other people in the Government will not stand by and allow him to destroy us.”  Oh, really?  I guess they were right because many of our elected officials, especially democrats, did not stand by and watch, they took part in the thuggery.  

    I have no confidence anyone in power right now is looking out for us.  It also pains me to think that our military is out there fighting for freedom and will come back to find America isn’t free anymore and they don’t really have much to come back to.

    I don’t care which administration lets us down.  Just because we think Bush and Cheney let us down, doesn’t mean we should say it’s ok for Obama to do so, too.  not that I expect ANYTHING from this narcissistic POS anyway.  Since 1/20/09, it has been every American for themselves.  If an attack occurs.  We are on our own people!  Get out there and organize your neighbors because Barrakula will be on the golf course, letting America absorb whatever nasty things come our way.

  • skep247

    Stronger?  I don’t think so.  We’re broke.  Our troops are exhausted after 9 years and multiple tours.  Our military goal seems to be make them like us and for goodness sakes, shut up and don’t make the muslims of the world angry. Our country is more divided than ever politically and is becoming less Constitutionally recognizable every day.  So no, I don’t think we’re stronger–just less free.

    As long as some people are fighting to keep our borders wide open, it’s hard to believe everything is being done to keep the country safe.  I wonder what the talking points will be should the next absorption/attack come via the Arizona border.  

  • AbigailAdams

    Jeeze, Breeze.  Have you heard anything about this on the tee vee yet?

  • jbjd

    AA asks my opinion of the clause in the GOP’s proposed “Pledge to America” mandating a showing of Constitutionality to all proposed legislation.

    Garbage.  Wholesale bamboozling of a gullible electorate.  Means absolutely nothing.  Even an ‘argument’ as to Constitutionality from an esteemed (?) Constitutional law scholar like Professor Larry Tribe means absolutely nothing when the words are so parsed that people fail to grasp what he is actually saying (not ‘McCain was born on a military base’ but rather, ‘his parents were associated with a military base’); and their purpose is to make it appear that they believe what they are doing is based in the law when they strongly suspect, it is not. http://www.michiganlawreview.org/assets/fi/107/chin.pdf

    PR. Smoke and mirrors.  The R’s are conducting themselves like pandering hypocrites.  Assuming they were the majority party, how many hours do you suppose they would willingly sacrifice contorting the Constitution so as to permit, say, prayer in public school?  I would prefer that our legislators spend their time seriously addressing the financial problems facing our country – how did the R’s let the bailout pass without reading the bill, let alone leaving out restrictions on how our money was to be used? – rather than pretending they are actually doing something worthwhile, when they know, they are not.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    EllenD,
    I’d say that Nietzsche’s quote is valid sometimes….but other times, I’d say “that which does not kill us” makes us scared as shit…..waiting for the other shoe to drop!

    Nietzsche also said: A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
    That thought might better apply today :)

  • joseph

    Shame on you Harp. Casting insults out of sheer ignorance. WHAT CREW, and WHAT PASSENGERS are you speaking of? Knock knock!!!! Anybody home in HARPVILLE? A passenger jet did NOT crash into the Pentagon. Not even remotely. It is entirely unplausible. Every bit of evidence that is available confirms it was not a commercial airliner. Ever hear of OPERATION NORTHWOODS? Unbelievable that you and the others are so gullible as to buy the government’s pathetically flawed account practically sight unseen.

  • sybilll

    Yes, and as someone on Twitter said, we can *absorb* the next attack at the cost of (+-) 2,996 civilian lives. 

  • greenlantern

    I have to throw my hat in with those that disagree with you here, Larry. Cheney and Bolton did not say what they did for our consumption only. We have a weak president who doesn’t have our national interest at heart. Those who would use this opportunity to do us harm need to hear that Obama is now a lame duck and will get soundly spanked for anymore of this crap.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    sorry not a fan of the cheneys no matter how “impressive” her resume is.  I don’t really care what she has to say, kinda like Ariana Huffington. 

  • Breeze

    -

    AA,

    That was my immediate ‘gut’ reaction. 

    With good reason, I believe….

  • Docelder

    Yep, and come out all the stronger for it apparently. That is my problem with the guy… he just dismisses the losses that were sustained by real people as if the USA was his personal “ant farm” to amuse himself with.

  • HARP

    I know it must be hard for you to see the big picture, especially when you have a such a small screen, so take a mental note…….Oops…..I see you are out of paper too.

  • HARP

    I know it must be hard for you to get the big picture, especially when you have such a small screen, so take a mental note….Ooops…I see you are out of paper too.

  • Retired

    Larry wrote, “These stupid Republican assholes should spend their time attacking Obama on actual substance rather than try to spend a sane statement into something resembling a white flag of surrender.”
    Indeed.  With Obama substantively screwing up almost more frequently than the average human can respond to, no one his time to parse his occasional flashes of santity for potential hidden jewels of foolishness.

  • Docelder

    The contract with America is back in a new wrapper. I expect Newt will follow. I am picking Newt as the next President with possibly Palin as VP. It could be much worse… we could have the Obama enablers Hillary and Bill. That will be the alternate choice probably. Two blasts from the past. We will try to relive the 90′s without the Reagan economy to back it up this time around. Obama and the democrats will leave us devastated. There won’t be much to work with.

  • Docelder

    It’s not really fair to say republican policies failed the republican party. Rather the republican party failed republican policies. The contract with America is back in a new wrapper. I expect Newt will follow. I am picking Newt as the next President with possibly Palin as VP. It could be much worse… we could have the Obama enablers Hillary and Bill. That will be the alternate choice probably. Two blasts from the past. We will try to relive the 90′s without the Reagan economy to back it up this time around. Obama and the democrats will leave us devastated. There won’t be much to work with.

  • oowawa

    Yes, but after 9-11, we had a few precious months of unity . . .

  • Yttik

    Remember when Hillary said  Obama offered nothing but words? Remember when he fired back with his “Just words” speech? “Don’t tell me words don’t matter! ‘I have a dream.’ Just words. ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words….

    Remember when Hillary pointed out that was the exact same speech Deval Patrick had delivered and Obama had plagiarised those words? She said, “If your whole candidacy is about words, then they should be your own words.”

    She went on to say, “You know, some people may think words are change. But you and I know better. Words are cheap.”

    Words are cheap. Obama should have splurged and bought himself a better word than “absorb.”

  • oowawa

    Oa?  Whaddya mean?  Ain’t we tough enough?!?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Of course but OA has such a style with his slap downs! ;)  

  • FLDemFem

    Meanwhile, he is cowering in NJ, aka “undislosed location”, because he is too scared to come to NYC.  Security concerns, don’tcha know!!

  • oowawa

    Yeah–I know what you mean–I think it’s because he thaws out frozen rats and feeds them to a boa constrictor . . .

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    My point was that he would make it a great open door to the rest of the states.

  • oowawa

    Yep, I’ve been trying to figure out where they stashed the crew and passengers . . . Do you think . . . ?  Are they that evil?

  • Docelder

    Yep, and then her and Bill campaigned for the guy. Just words and all. I guess it takes one to know one.

  • Heather

    I hate it when I agree with Cheney because I blame him personally for executing 9/11 (from his hidden bunker) but he is a very smart person.  I agree with him a lot since Obama got elected.  He’s not incredibly unbelievably brilliant but I think he’s really smart.

  • Heather

    And Liz Cheney is smart too. I misread the article and thought it was talking about Dick, oops.

  • Breeze

    -
    “Have you heard anything about this on the tee vee yet?”

    ———————————————————————————

    As if the LameStreamMedia would allow it to ever see the light of day….

  • TeakWoodKite

    GAG me, this getting to the very of the bottom of the barrel, as if it were a badge of honor.

    Every single president for the last 50 years has had to deal with adversaries, and a large portion of them of our own making. To listen to any republican speak to this stupid comment by BO, as if it was an admission of weakness and lacking any fortitude, is revealing what an ASS they are.

    Most of these dolts were in government service when the Hart Rudman report was published, it was stuck on a shelf. Is BO the definition of stupid? Absolutely! Does that absolve the “loyal opposition” of thier sad contributions to the defense of this nation? Hell no.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/commission.html Historical context reading.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Constitutional law scholar like Professor Larry Tribe ….yeah he thought BO was a “great” scholar….good judgement on his part.

    Spot on jbjd.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Who likes being dis’ed by a punk POTUS?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Got milk?

    Love the pic Katmoon. :)

  • TeakWoodKite

    Yeah I had childhood friends who where literally blown out of the tower to thier death….creep. Where do these tinfoils come from?

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Tex-Mex—You asked the question “who the fuck is she besides CHUD’S (Dick Cheney’s) daughter”…and I was just trying to oblige. Sorry.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    oowawa and~JustMe~LOL!!

  • TeakWoodKite

    Here?

  • TeakWoodKite

    “I feel your frustration”….but not your pain.

  • AbigailAdams

    Perfect.  Thanks!

    See guys.  Be careful about latching on to the R’s just because they’re not the D’s.  Start keeping a file to confront all those new Rs who are going to be replacing the Ds so we can tell them to mind their Ps and Qs.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “Casting insults out of sheer ignorance”…..

    I guess that’s better than one from a bronze casting. Geeez.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Yttk, Obama plays scrabble?

  • Babs

    Carol, where’s the wedding? Could one of us lay host or hostess so you could have a place to stay? I’m in southeastern PA, mi casa su casa, anytime.

  • EllenD

    Cindy, it was my impression that annual exams will be covered by Medicare next year. Before this, I think the physician’s office billing had to find a reason why the person was in being examined to get the examination paid for.
    Am I misinformed?

  • EllenD

    Hey Rs & Ds, mind your Ps and Qs.

    Love your writing AA!

  • EllenD

    Great to hear from you, Katmoon. Was just about to send Ferd for you.

  • EllenD

    You always have a place here in LA (if you don’t mind the house renovation going on). Any chance the wedding is in California?

  • Patience

    The midterms are a little over a month away.  Expect to hear a lot more hyperbole, out and out lies, and “gotcha” commentary from all directions and sources.   

    At this point I usually try to tune out politics — the incessant ads, blather, etc. get on my nerves.  Nothing said from this point on can be trusted.  I’ve already made up my mind how I’ll vote. 

  • EllenD

    Thank you Larry!!! I thought we were over all that!

  • EllenD

    He has a Boa Constrictor? What a relief! I thought he just had peculiar tastes! ;)

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    I see you admire her and I totally respect that.  I just don’t like the Cheney’s thats all.  :-D

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I can’t lose the whole Democratic Party”.  So, announcing our war strategy is OK, at the expense of military lives, as long as he satisfies his Democratic base?  That makes me want to throw things. 
    ==============================
    What disgusts me is That One making it about HIM, nevermind the troops. His NPD always makes an appearance at the most inappropriate of times.

  • Katmoon

    Missing ya’ll-Carol, we have mucho room here in Middle Tn as well! Have been offline due to getting my internal time schedule  ”reset”- trying not to want that nap when I get home. Tired enough to worry if I am wearing my underwear on the outside.  

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I don’t know what the compromise on this is, but we should look at what the gov’t is trying to accomplish in the name of security and assess its effectiveness against the risk and the fact that no matter how much money and manpower is spent, we will never be completely safe from a determined “terrorist.”   
    ========================
    Abigail: There is no compromise–Homeland Security needs to be disbanded. That organization is a useless exercise in bureaucracy. Rescind the Patriot Act, restore the Constitution, and take the fight to the terrorists with extreme prejudice. An ultimatum is in order and follow-through required. One more attack and one of their cities ceases to exist. They’ll only test that one once. World stability is at stake, which a few barbarian malcontents at civilization’s gates want to affect in a proportion that is far in excess of their physical numbers. The world cannot afford to be held hostage to the insanity of a few 7th century throwbacks. Screw them.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Plus I was hoping Ferd could have a well deserved rest!!!!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    EllenD—-I think you meant to reply to “Annie Soda Cracker”??
    :)

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Tex-Mex—–you’re ok, kiddo!

  • creeper

    It’s easy to see how another terrorist attack would benefit Barry-O.  Just look at what it did for the previous occupant of the White House.  Bush would’ve been a one-term president but for 9/11.

  • creeper

    Excellent comment, nickoury.  Well and truly said.  (h/t Hemmingway)

  • creeper

    Carol, if the wedding’s in the Midwest we have scads of room and a spare car here in eastern Iowa.  C’mon along.

  • creeper

    Maybe the next “terrorist” attack won’t really be coming from terrorists…

  • creeper

    Give that man a cheroot.  Best comment on the thread.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Franklin, Tennesse

    Thanks so much.  It’s the airfare that’s a killer.

    :-D

  • carol haka, Matzo

    My co-worker’s parent-in-laws were on board one of the planes that went into the tower.

    Who knows, it could have been their landing gear that landed in the Burlington Coat Factory.  I’m sure part of their ashes are in that building.

    >:o

  • carol haka, Matzo

    I like the parts of the Patriot Act that are required in a Financial transaction.

    I am with you on the “extreme prejudice”.  Our Soldiers need to stop being the targets of a few malcontents.  Blow their ass up and be done with it.  It’s called War – perform with our greatest efforts or get the hell out!

    >:o

  • wodie j crackerdawg

    I am no fan of Obama by a long shot. But I too fail to see the reasoning for outrage at the comment.  He said we could absorb an attack.  To me that says we are a strong nation and can prevail.  Obama also said we will do all we can to prevent an attack. I mean really, what is the hairy ass deal? When we get petty and nitpick then no one pays any attention when there is something truly serious to consider like the economy. 

    After spending countless hours on homework while working full time and maintaining a household for 4 years studying for my Bachelors degree online from home, I lost my job in Feburary and have had 2 interviews since then.  I am NOT happy.  I LIKE to work-I am very ambitious and energetic.  I am not a couch potato.  I need to stay busy.  So excuse me for being irate that Republicans are getting in a snit about something very minor compared to jobs, the economy, taxes and spending.  As they say “pick your battles.”

    I am also tired of the pantywaist candidates that won’t step aside gracefully such as Murkowski, Castle and O’Donnell for the sake of unity in the Republican party. The Tea Party has been working their butt off trying to get things back on track and hold both parties accountable.  Krauthammer couldn’t wait to criticize the GOP new contract w America.  He and Rove have been slamming O’Donnell.  They got their knickers in a knot because voters didn’t take their superior intellectual advice.  I’ve got news for them, we don’t need that kind of advice.  Get with the program.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    AC—-Does National/Crystal City airport still have that EXTREMELY short runway?? It used to be the shortest in the nation……..so scary! I hated to fly out of there, but it was so convenient.

  • kenoshamarge

    I just think it was very poor phrasing. The so-called “great” speaker doesn’t speak very well when someone else isn’t putting words in his mouth.

    Any “smart” politician would have known that using the “term” absorb would sound as if people were simply statistics. Can we absorb another 9/11? Damn right we could. But it was still poorly phrased. A smart pol knows that phrasing is all important. He would also know that the likes of Cheney, Bolton et all would pounce on what appears to be just one more bit of evidence that he’s a cold-hearted bastard.

    Any word that comes from any pols mouth is going to be examined, spun and used against them by the opposition. With the advent of the Internet a fauxrage can be manufactured with instants of the words leaving someone’s lips.

    The sentiment might not have been wrong, the way it was presented was. JMO and admittedly biased because I’ve reached the point where almost everything he says annoys the hell out of me. Even good morning.

  • kenoshamarge

    It is getting very confusing for me. First Fat Ass seems to be saying let us eat cake but that it isn’t good for us and we shouldn’t eat it but would you look at the price of arugula and oh to hell with it.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    wodiej: It was something that should not have been spoken to a reporter. It doesn’t make him “analytical” as his supporters say. Quite the contrary–it makes him look naive and in way over his tiny head. That sort of statement will only compel terrorists to challenge that “notion”. Like a poor boxer, That One telegraphs his intentions.

    He is so transparent, I’d like to play poker against him and take a year’s salary from him.

  • kenoshamarge

    Hang in there Carol. (((hugs))). I’m in the same leaky boat and the water is coming in faster than I can bail. (S.O. got laid off and it looks to be permanent)

     I get hostile too. >:o Better than crying all the time. :’(

    Damn little money, most of savings gone and winter coming on in Wisconsin. I feel like the life is being squeezed out of me. Then I come here and talk and rant and I feel better. Not good, but better. And I’ll take what I can get at this point.

    Sorry, didn’t mean to make this about me. Wishing you all good things.

  • kenoshamarge

    If the GOP wants to hand the election to Oblahblah they’ll recycle NEWT. When people are showing in so many ways that they want an end to the “old” buzzards why recycle Newt? Or Romney? Or any other “blast from the past”. Pawlenty, Daniels, Palin, and several others come to mind as something new. I can’t see Palin winning because of her resigning in Alaska.

    Yes I understand why she did and think it was what she “had” to do. But it still doesn’t change the fact that she can be portrayed as someone that doesn’t finish the job.

    Pawlenty is the one I would like to see run but I can’t see him winning because he doesn’t have the “pizazz”. The media will tell us how boring he is and millions will believe.

     Mitch Daniels would be my second choice.

    Sarah Palin as VP candidate would test her mettle and give her the experience and the gravitas that just “twittering” does not. JMO

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I like the parts of the Patriot Act that are required in a Financial transaction.  
    ===================
    That is better placed under the Commerce Department. Malefactors in office, present and future, can use the Patriot Act to commit all sort of mischief in the name of “national security”. I’m not buying any of the bullshit. The Patriot Act is an anathema to a free society and moreover, the terrorists won when we changed OUR laws because of THEIR actions. They’re laughing at us still.

    My advice: Punish the guilty for a f*cking change.

  • EWard

    wodiej

    Amen to your last two paragraphs.  However, I have to disagree about absorbgate.  It matters what our CIC says about our national security and reinforces the idea that BO is in over his head. 

    The sooner the Dems are voted out of office, I expect a sigh of relief from our financial infrastructure and companies to start hiring again.  It is the uncertainty of taxes, new regulations, hc costs, and government takeovers of private industries that are driving up unemployment.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    That is why I call her MObutt

  • AC

    Hi Cindy, don’t know about the runway length but it’s probably the same as you know.  The largest  (like a 747 or DC10) still do not use it as far as I know.  It’s  had major renovations–doesn’t look like anything before 1990.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I believe having the Jihadist In Chief in control of our government is a Terrorist Attack.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Need more proof that D’s are fleeing from Obutt?

    OBAMA’s FIRE SALE
    by Gail Sheehy

    Six weeks before the election, President Obama couldn’t fill the ballroom at the Roosevelt Hotel, despite cheap tickets on offer. And then he was met by hecklers.

    Who would have thought that six weeks before a cliffhanger election, President Obama would have to reach down to the D list to fill a room to listen to him? Most of us low rollers arrived early to see President Obama up close and personal. Our tickets for the general reception at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York were only $100. Some thought the email invitation was a joke. Some bought tickets for $50 from their desperate Democratic committeeman. Some bought the same day.

    Full article: 
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-09-23/obamas-fire-sale/

  • wodie j crackerdawg

    well we will have to agree to disagree.  Do terrorists need us to say or do anything to attack or challenge us? Hardly.

  • I’m a Dr Kracker 3 Seeded Linda too

    Funny, if Bush said anything mild in compairson, he would be accused of wanting it to happen, to look strong.  Oh wait, they did that, didn’t they?

  • carol haka, Matzo
  • HARP

    $13,492,776,734,733

  • creeper

    Aw, Marge…damn!

  • tango

    “Maybe he means we could “absorb” the loss of AZ…” 

    Well when I heard Obama talk about ”rogue” states, I thought he meant places like Iran and North Korea.  Foolish me, he meant Arizona which is the only rogue state he seems to care about nowadays.

  • creeper

    carol haka, the ol’ res agent went to work on this.  Southwest has an Austin/Nashville RT for $218.  Web only. Cheaper than Dallas or Houston.

    Not that $218 is chicken feed these days…

  • carol haka, Matzo

    You are sooooooooooo sweet. 

    I don’t have $218, and I’m in Dallas.

    Thanks anyway.

    :’(

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    carol haka—Franklin….oh what a pretty little town. The “Trace” starts right near there, too………. gorgeous part of the country.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    kenoshomarge—Bless your heart!

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    I can’t figure out who is sending out the “misinformation”.  The story about the physician seminars and fines came from the bookkeeper at my GYN’s office when I was billed $175 for a “preventative” exam for a pap smear (now only allowed every 2 years rather than previously every year).  So I waited 2 years to the month and got a bill telling me Medicare no longer covered “preventative” services.  This was the first time I was ever billed personally for any service since I have a supplemental plan which picks up anything after Medicare pays. 

    I don’t know if they are allowing one standard for regular insurance and another for Medicare…it’s very confusing…AND VAGUE…there’s that frequently descriptive Democrat word again.  I am hearing two completely contrary stories.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    AC—-Thank you! We haven’t been back, even for a visit in 30 years.  

    I was in Dulles once with a friend (during Watergate, but before it was big news) who worked at the White House. We were walking along inside Dulles and he kind of gasped and said “Look straight ahead….Don’t act like you see anyone”.
     When we got outside I asked wtf was going on, and he said there was a WH “guy”  who wasn’t supposed to be there, suspiciously using a pay phone….
    Fun times!

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    PS, EllenD, I received my reminder for my yearly mammagram yesterday and called for an appointment.  Again, I was told two different things.  The receptionist said I had to have the exam within the month of September in order for Medicare to pay.  Since that is only another week, when transferred to the appointments secretary, when I asked for an ASAP appt, she said “No, she has it wrong.  You can’t have it until a year has passed since your last one which was 9/30/09.”  Is everyone confused?  Yes.  And I’d say that includes all the medical providers.  Damn the Democrats for this.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    I’m sure you are familiar (but not personally) with alien abductions.  I’ll ask one of my facebook acquaintences from Big Sur, who is a 9/11 conspiracy truther (she has many friends who concur) and see if I can get their Pluto address.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Yes, I read that he says one thing to the media and it’s a completely contrary story to the Arabic newspapers…where there’s no prentense.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Do terrorists need us to say or do anything to attack or challenge us? Hardly.
    ==============
    Of course not. Bit discretion is the better part of valor as the saying goes. That One should zip his enormous lip.

  • Breeze

    -

    “I am also tired of the pantywaist candidates that won’t step aside gracefully such as Murkowski, Castle and O’Donnell…..”

    ———————————————————————————————

    You mean Murkowski, Castle and

    CRIST

    don’t you, Wodie?

  • Docelder

    There aren’t any republicans besides Newt and Palin that have what Reagan had. Palin is new and she is the closest we have to a female version of Reagan. She will have the “historic” factor in her favor this time. Newt running will bring to a renewed focus the Clinton “golden years”. It wasn’t all Clinton. The first two years were Clinton yes… the tax hikes and the failed health reform attempt. That was all him. The last six years were the “contract with America” and Newt leading the way. Newt made it easy for Clinton to do the right thing. I don’t believe he would have had the resolve without Newt holding the house. So, Newt did it once and he can do it again. We can do it again… meaning America can do it again… if we had some support in the White House. Right now we don’t have that support.

  • Docelder

    Which just proves the point that both parties are the same thing right now. Neither party can afford the TEA party candidates to be successful. See how fast the ideological facades of the parties fall away to go after the TEA party candidates. It is all a facade. They are much the same now.

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    Remember, this is where Obama was the first Sunday after 9/11…

    And we wonder why he hate’s America and all it stands for?

  • Mr. Natural

    Time for some “rubble to dance?”

    Four Mark 28′s on Mecca would be a Jim Dandy start.

    But them I’ve always felt that it’s much more effective to treat with Survivors, and harshly, rather than reason with Antagonists.

    Problem is: The Day (the ONLY Day) to have done this was 12 SEP 2001.

    Now we’d just look like bullies…not that that bothers ME too much.

    Kill them until their Paradise runs out of virgins.

    An  Eye for a Tooth; A Life for an Eye; a Tribe for a Life.

    That would humble a BUNCH of MF’ers right down… 

  • Mr. Natural

    None of the above precludes the possibility that she may be full of shit.

    Equal Rights Means Equal Wrongs.

  • beyond__words

    Absolutely well said and spot on Nickoury – I don’t think any past U.S. Presidents could have said it better!

  • beyond__words

    Lol yup. Just like the “moon hoax” freaks etc….oh well, it makes the world less boring to see what level of b.s. they can reach next! :P

  • EllenD

    Thanks, Cindy – I’d say “senior moment” but I hate that phrase so I simply have to say I am losing my mind.

  • beyond__words

    Yea the nation is still strong and powerful but I agree with the sentiment it seems dismissive of the lives lost at first glance. I can also see both sides of the argument though.

    I wonder if he would take it personal and just tell himself he was “being absorbed” if it was him?

    yea right…

  • EllenD

    Annie, that is awful! Did you phone Medicare? I haven’t tried it but I have been told that you can phone them directly with questions.
    Does anyone know?
    Otherwise this runaround is ridiculous. And you would at least expect the doctors offices to know.
    Today I had to educate myself about the length of the COBRA subsidy. I went on the net and got the answers from the Dept of Labor site. Then I confirmed it with my insurance agent.
    Thank goodness for Google – I just put in the  question and hopefully get 10  CONSISTENT answers.
    But you just made me realize I haven’t had mine in -oh – five years so I’d better check myself!
    Thanks, Annie!

  • EllenD

    Hey Katmoon – here’s my secret.
    You make a pot of green tea first thing when you get in (with a tea leaf strainer in the middle, not bags), then you drink cups of it during the day. If it gets low you pour more hot water in.
    I learned this from a studio in China where every employee had a tumbler with some green tea leaves at the bottom. Every hour or so someone would come around with a kettle of boiling water and top it off.
    I prefer Gunpowder Tea but sometimesit’s tough to get.

    This keeps me chugging along nice and even. If I don’t do it I flag during the day. My son says it’s the caffeine but I don’t think it is harmful and it doesn’t make you jumpy like coffee. (I think you might also lose weight by not eating carbs to get a sugar rush).

  • Docelder

    There is a difference between screening mammograms and diagnostic mammograms ordered by a doctor. Screening mammograms, yes medicare does cover one per year. But if there is a valid reason to do another one and if it is ordered by a doctor it may be covered, though medicare will not preauthorize any services. They will just tell you whether it is or is not covered… which isn’t always the same thing unfortunately. But it is not true that medicare pays for all preventive services. For example, they cover one routine physical exam, only if performed in the first year you become eligible for medicare. it is called the welcome to medicare physical exam. Subsequent routine physical exams are not covered by medicare. Also, in 2011 the drug premium medicare charges seniors for part d coverage will go up for medicare beneficiaries that have individual incomes over $85,000 a year as a part of health reform. If you live in the midwest $85,000 is well off. If you live in NYC or SF then probably not so well off.

  • Docelder

    There is a difference between screening mammograms and diagnostic mammograms ordered by a doctor. Screening mammograms, yes medicare does cover one per year. But if there is a valid reason to do another one and if it is ordered by a doctor it may be covered, though medicare will not preauthorize any services. They will just tell you whether it is or is not covered… which isn’t always the same thing unfortunately. But it is not true that medicare pays for all preventive services. For example, they cover one routine physical exam, only if performed in the first year you become eligible for medicare. it is called the welcome to medicare physical exam. Subsequent routine physical exams are not covered by medicare. Also, in 2011 the drug premium medicare charges seniors for part d coverage will go up for medicare beneficiaries that have individual incomes over $85,000 a year as a part of health reform. If you live in the midwest $85,000 is well off. If you live in NYC or SF then probably not so well off. Beneficiaries can call 1-800-MEDICARE 24-7. I don’t know why that fact isn’t more widely publicized.

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    Ellen–LOL! I’m right there, too!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    None of the above precludes the possibility that she may be full of shit.  

    Mr. Natural—–I don’t know how to break this to you, but yeah, it actually DOES preclude the possibility that she’s full of shit, IMO.
    That was kinda my point.
    I’ll speak slower next time…just for you. ;)

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    I’m a Dr. Kracker—–laughin’ at loud!

  • CindyWhiteBaguettew/OliveOilforDipping

    I’m a Dr. Kracker—-Laughin’ out loud!

  • stodghie

    ok let me just make this simple. i DON’T WANT ANOTHER DANG DEMOCRAT IN POWER. I’D VOTE FOR THE APES AT THE ZOO FIRST,.

    i won’t backtrack. i won’t apoloigize. i know for a fact they are destorying my country and their sorry asses have to go. period!

  • creeper

    Wanna bet the staff at Medicare doesn’t know either?

  • kenoshamarge

    Green Tea is good for all kinds of “what ails ya”. I drink it by the gallon every day. I have replaced all the “soda” I was addicted to for 50 years with Green Tea and Rooiboos Tea. I am now “addicted” to them. Since they are both very good for you for many reasons it’s a good addiction to have.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    In a word that will send many Obots to the therapist couch….. AMEN …. stodghie

  • Snarkalicious

    So you’re a 9/11 “Truther”???

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    Nearly a year later, this comment is still pertinent. There are many real grounds on which to criticize our current president (…and also to praise him…) but this is not one of them. An adult debate does not include firing chaff to obscure a lack of substance.
    Moreover, I’d like to weigh in on the cowardice of the Bolton/Cheney line of attack. The real world is harsh and bad stuff will happen. To claim we should spend ourselves into poverty and sell ourselves to the Chinese in the process of searching for an illusory 100% safety against madmen is, at best, some sort of national security auto-immune disorder in which the things that are supposed to protect us, instead destroy us. Let us have a little courage!