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Crisis Open Thread [Video Update + Susan Update]

We’ve got some great stories coming in, written by top people, including much more on the Acorn problem — don’t miss Larry Johnson’s earlier story today, The ACORN Poison Pill — as well as diverse opinions on the bail-out. (We’re not plugging one POV on this crisis but are posting, as fast as possible, the important concerns and thinking of many contributors.) UPDATE VIDEO, sent to me by Uppity Woman — I haven’t watched it all yet, but it looks important to, at the least, educating us about what’s going on:

[SUSAN'S UPDATE: I hope we don't get in the mood to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We need to solve this crisis in a rational way. We can blame and point fingers from now 'til the world implodes, but that gets us nowhere, except insofar that it is instructive so that we don't repeat the same mistakes. That said, lower-income people deserve a chance to get homes but such aid can't be a conduit for "iffy" ideologically-driven groups to get their mitts on the money and commit fraud. We should NOT destroy all opportunities for low-income people to have a home, particularly since low-level rents are getting harder and harder to find; we just need solid oversight of such programs. My two cents.]

And what is going to happen today, do you think? And why isn’t the market tanking? Or is it too early? Check Memeorandum.com for a dizzying array of news and blog stories.

We’ll keep posting Open Threads throughout the day and, of course, before the debate and/or the Barack Obama soliloquy (what a major snore that would be).

And I’m reeling from the news of the Washington Mutual collapse. I knew it was coming, but it doesn’t lessen the shock of the once-friendly, small-time bank in a few Western Washington state towns and cities. It always had a touch of class in its local citizenshi and its famous customer service. Then it swelled overnight seemingly, and got too big for its britches. A sad demise of a once fine institution that gave each customer a personal banking experience.

  • tzada

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=1785302026&t=1816384054&
    If McCain does not come there will be NO DEBATE. It would be considered an illegal contribution

    • WynterSkye

      By Obama’s Definition, British Prime Minister Brown Unable To Multitask!

      Personally, I always thought the mark of governmental leadership was the ability to prioritize, not to multi-task. However, it appears that to Senator Obama a Foreign Policy Debate holds the same level of prioritization as the meltdown of US financial system. Senator Obama has repeatedly stated that this is the largest financial crisis that this nation has faced since the Great Depression, yet it also appears that he is not willingly to be on the front-lines, let alone cast a vote on what could be the most important piece of financial legislation since the Great Depression.

      Senator Obama stated that a President needed to have the ability to multi-task and thus the debates should go on. Of course, to buy into that belief you would also have to accept that the two are somehow related or equally important. For 4 months Senator Obama has refused to participate in unscripted town hall meetings with Senator McCain. Town Hall meetings in which average citizens, not a paid moderator, would be allowed to form and ask questions. Yet, today his surrogates want to portray McCain as trying to avoid debate. It’s not quite a legitimate argument when even President Clinton, who know first hand how to behave Presidentially, stated that McCain’s choice was sound.

      But if we are to accept Senator Obama’s view of multi-tasking, then we should also apply those standards to every political leader. For instance, British Prime-Minister, Gordon Brown, had a full day of high level diplomatic meetings scheduled at the United Nations today. Yet, Prime Minister Brown altered his schedule, cancelling some meetings in order to pay a visit to the New York Federal Reserve to discuss the turmoil in the global markets. At the same time Prime Minister Brown’s office announced that he cancelling his scheduled return to London on Friday in order to hold an emergency economic meeting with President Bush.

      Why?

      Shouldn’t Prime Minister Brown be able to handle multiple events at one time. Why alter his schedule, cancel meetings and postpone a trip home, when he could easily have talked to the President via phone, or video conferencing, or telegram for that fact???

      If we applied the same standards to Prime Minister Brown that the media and Obama surrogates apply to him, the Prime Minister Brown is doing the wrong thing and apparently isn’t capable of handling multiple “tasks”.

      Or…

      Perhaps it’s that Prime Minister Brown, like all good leaders, understands that Governing is not about multi-tasking, it is about prioritizing. It is about suspending a campaign as a hurricane makes landfall, rather than singing Motown and waving to the crowd at a labor day parade even as that hurricane makes landfall. It is about not abrogating your sworn duties as a United States Senator because you have a 50% of rising to the presidency.

      Prime Minister Brown clearly gets it, President Clinton clearly gets it, Senator McCain clearly gets it, so who is left?

      J Brown
      September 25th, 2008

      • Docelder

        Or when Bush could multi-task from a classroom while the towers burned. Or how Bush could multitask as he flew over Katrina. John McCain is no Bush. Obama is just a Bush wanna be.

    • csuzeq

      CNN breaking news email I received:

      Sen. John McCain will participate in tonight’s presidential debate.

  • NObailout NObama

    These dirty ba@@ids, REID, DODD, FRANK and PELOSI need to GO!
    Reid has another flip flop today, saying he didn’t mean that he needed McCain, but that he needed his WORDS.
    I AM SO SICK OF THESE CROOKS, THIEVES and LIARS!
    SEND THEM HOME!!!

    • Creature of Chicago

      Reid has another flip flop today, saying he didn’t mean that he needed McCain, but that he needed his WORDS.

      He needed McCain’s “words, just words”.

      At this point I’ve got a few choice words for Harry.
      Has he shown leadership regarding ANYTHING at all?

      • Mr. Natural

        Yes. Harry Reid is a Leading AHole.

        ( Sorry. )

    • Sue

      Harry Reid is a piece of shit.

      He talks about not interjecting politics into the situation, and in the next breath rips on McCain.

      WTF???

      John McCain is doing his JOB. Why is he being criticized for it???

      • vinnie

        These Aholes are getting on my last good nerve. Injecting politics into a situation? What the F*CK was Obama doing when he sat down with the PM of Iraq to say don’t make any decision with the Bush Administration regarding the troops? No wonder we’ve lost the last two elections. A bunch of whinny idiots!

        • Mary

          As I understand it from ABC, during the White House meeting, McCain didn’t say much, letting all parties give their own input.

          When it came to the Dem side, both Reid and Pelosi looked to Obama to speak for them, and he did all the talking and asking, playing politics.

          It was Obama’s questions that blew the meeting up into angry contention.

          Not McCain.

    • Melisa

      I was just watching Reid. It appears that he is using this method: public shaming of McCain and the house republicans in order to get his plan passed intact, garnering as much political advantage as possible, implying that the hold up is over “giving tax payer money to CEO’s” (aka: playing the class warfare card, even though it is not even in play) and basically being untruthful about what is really happening….
      They have really screwed this one up.

    • LookingForwardTo2012

      He contradicted himself the entire time. Bashed John McCain, with innuendo and outright lies, but couldn’t bring himself to say his name.

      Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to go. I don’t know when they are up for re-election, but I will donate to anyone who runs against them.

      Throw the bums out!!!!!

    • Urban Hillbilly

      Harry Reid looks like he wants to kick a dog!

      • beebop

        My dog would like to kick Harry Reid.

        • Urban Hillbilly

          I’ll buy your dog a plane ticket to DC!
          ;)

        • Hispana

          I have a tiny terrier that can jump and snap to the crotch when necessary.

      • NObailout NObama

        Pelosi wasn’t nearby, so he would have to kick Dodd.

    • Maverick

      Anyone recall Phil Murphy posting here lately? Yeah the Obamabot?
      Here’s what I got on him. He is part of the corrupt DNC and sent me this in an email that my address was sold to the DNC by Hillary. Why do these people always beg for money?

      Dear x,
      I’m Phil Murphy, Finance Chair of the DNC. I’m responsible for making sure our Party has the funds it needs to stay competitive.
      I wanted you to see these two clips that were posted on Politico.com this week…
      John McCain will raise over $7 million tonight at a high-dollar New York fundraiser, his largest one-event haul yet during the campaign, according to sources familiar with the expected haul.
      McCain raises over $2 mil in Michigan … So said John Rakolta — a former national finance chair and ubiquitous presence around Mitt Romney during the primary — last night at the suburban Detroit funder for the GOP nominee.
      In the past 48 hours, John McCain raised over $9 million for his campaign and the Republican National Committee. While we’re choosing our nominee, the Republican machine is working their way across the country, raising money and expanding their bank accounts.
      What are they going to do with that money? Attack. As soon as we have our nominee, they’ll unleash a flood of expensive negative attacks to try to define our candidate.
      that’s why we have to be ready for anything — we can’t let them Swift Boat us right out of the gate.
      Can you make a contribution to offset the $9 million John McCain has raised the last 48 hours? We need to be able to defend our candidate from the Republican machine as soon as it kicks into gear:
      http://www.democrats.org/NoSwiftBoat
      Everywhere John McCain goes his handlers are organizing fundraising receptions, catering to special interests and lobbyists. It’s straight out of the George Bush and Karl Rove playbook.
      While our primary continues, we can’t afford to let John McCain and the Republican machine get a financial advantage. Help us and our nominee stay competitive.
      Thanks for your support.
      Phil Murphy

      • bemused

        Can it be the same? The bot Murphy claims to live in SF and New Orleans, be 53 years old yet already able to retire from his earnings running hospices. And, he just got back from Ireland! Not that either is worth a response.

  • MrMike

    The market isn’t tanking? Too soon or the crisis isn’t all that far reaching.

    • Creature of Chicago
    • Maverick

      It was a phony scare perpetuated by Poopelosi and Raunchy Reid. Mainstreet is fine. Many banks are fine. This is a crock to make Oblunderhead look good.

  • tzada

    Senate Democratic leaders unveiled their $56 billion economic stimulus package on Thursday, less than an hour before leaving to meet President Bush at the White House to continue the fragile negotiations on the financial rescue bill.
    Calling it “an economic recovery package that will help middle-class families struggling in the weakening Bush-McCain economy,” Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) pitched the plan with the familiar mantra of “not forgetting Main Street.” The plan includes a $7.5 billion down payment on $25 billion in loans for the struggling auto industry.
    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dems-seek-a-further-56-billion-2008-09-25.html

    • MrMike

      Spending my money like a drunken sailor on a Saturday night.

      • JohninCA

        Now don’t be insulting the bona fide drunken sailors of the world.

        • Creature of Chicago

          I know, at least they get something for their drunken binge:

          sex, booze, and the occasional tattoo

          • http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

            And sailors use their own money.

    • Sue

      Jesus. This is ridiculous. Are they so out of touch with regular people that they think this is going to help the problem?

      More spending. Just what we need. I’m so disgusted and discouraged right now.

      • tzada

        Don’t lets forget the Global Poverty Bill Obama co sponsored. It gives 845 Billion to the UN and makes the USA subject to the UN and world protocols.

        Look it up, and read it.

        If the 845 Billion has to be financed the cost will be more like 1.5 TRILLION. Get his damned FOOT off of our necks NOW>

        • McHope

          845 Billion? And we are in a tailspin over LESS than that right now.
          People need to hear about this.

        • Sue

          I’ve read it.

          We canNOT let this man get elected!!

      • mimi

        I seem to remember right before Hillary suspended her campaign that Pelosi promised to do this. They are buying the election for 0bama, by trying to bribe voters.

        We MUST get rid of all of these people. If by some tragedy 0bama gets elected, we must make it our business to see all of these people run out of office.

        • Mary

          $25 billion hidden bailout for the auto industry is all about voters in Michigan, and helping Governor Granholm not get sacked.

          It’s pandering for votes.

    • StrawberrybitesBarky

      The freakin’ auto industry? Yeah, ya wanna’ know how to help the US auto industry? Tell them to make a product people want to buy. Christ, Toyota can’t stock enough hybrids and I’m on a fourteen month waiting list for a Smart car. And get this, used Smart cars are actually selling for the same price as new ones because the demand in some areas is so high. But hey, 0% financing on the mega mammoth American SUVs. Knock yourself out, folks. Bail out the dumbshits who didn’t see this one coming? Why should the American tax payers bail out companies too stupid to survive in a free and open market?

      • tzada

        It may be looked on as VOTE BUYING. The states it will help are Michigan and Ohio. Teamster unions

        • StrawberrybitesBarky

          Why can’t Americans be on the cutting edge of car manufacturing anymore? We used to make the best cars in the world. And don’t tell me that just because healthcare is so expensive that they have to make huge outdated dinosaurs that break down one year after I buy it. We need new blood in the CEO ranks of today’s American companies. And that doesn’t just mean the auto industry. No more of this get in, grab what you can and bail because the government will bail us out attitude.

          • NObailout NObama

            A new auto plant is being opened by GM in Flint Michigan, building smart cars, I believe. Announced yesterday.

        • Maverick

          Hmmm. That’s a good point. It’s Reids way to buy votes in MI and OH. Bistards.

    • beebop

      Absolutely NOT !!!!!

      There are plenty of places to buy cars. I have zero sympathy for any of them. Why is it that Toyota and Honda can figure out what AMERICANS want to drive and Chevy and Ford CAN’T?????

      • wodiej

        Ford and Chevy and GM can stick it where the sign dont’ shine. Their union workers are overpaid and underworked-oh and greedy too. A few years ago they went on strike in Indiana because the company asked them to pay for some of their health insurance. I don’t know of any employers now who don’t require employees to share the cost. These people make more than someone w a college degree. What is wrong w that picture?

        They keep cranking out these huge, gas guzzling SUV’s and pick up trucks. I bought a Honda Civic last fall after doing alot of research on vehicles. It actually gets better fuel economy than they state. With how it is equipped, I would have paid several thousand more if it was Chevy, Ford or GM. We have a Honda plant here in Indiana also. These plants already implement envirnomentally friendly practices like major recycling etc. The car is awesome…low emissions, well made, reliable, drives like a dream and has excellent resale.

    • Diana

      Oh that’s lovely we’re in an economic crisis, with a 700 billion bailout. So instead of working on this problem to fix it, they introduce a stimulus package asking the American people for anothr 56 billion! Could they care anymore for the American people?

      • Maverick

        Only half of the last stimulus package was sent out. This is a joke. 600 turned into 300 for most people. Stupid people are running the show. Pelosi and Reid are always going on vacation because they say “no-one knows what to do” ~quote~Harry Reid

  • Zelda Crunch

    And why isn’t the market tanking?

    I have no idea. It’s actually a good thing. Perhaps some of it is due to the fact investors are still up in the air, not knowing how the govt will react.

    • Zelda Crunch

      BTW I’ve now seen why submissions can take so long. I don’t know if it’s always like this for this reason but the sluggishness is constant. And what I’ve been able to see peering into the pipeline is there is a bottleneck at Amazon – due to some ad on these pages. Perhaps somebody’s got something set up wrong.

      • Zelda Crunch

        Some of the web servers are good. Those from Akamai and seem to be excellent. But 28 (twenty eight) separate connections to process a single web page? Something is wrong here. After 10-15 Akamai threads there are others to IGN Entertainment, Total Server Solutions, YouTube, and finally half a dozen to Amazon. Many of these connections stay open much longer than they should.

        This for a single NQ page.

        72.21.206.84
        206-84.amazon.com
        206-177.amazon.com
        166-37.amazon.com
        210-11.amazon.com
        207-171-168-103.amazon.com

        • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

          That’s very strange because the page loads extremely fast for me. No problems at all – and, trust me, I’m not on a fancy system.

          Are all of your software and plug-ins up-to-date? And have you disabled any functions through your browser and/or special programs?

          I can try to reach our WordPress expert but want to have something concrete to give her after weeding out any other related issues. (BTW: I am very busy so may not get back to see what you post until a bit later.)

    • SJ

      I was wondering about that also I thought the markets would of been in a mess this morning.

      • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

        Be more descriptive, please.

        Are your comments posting slowly? I need a precise description

        • NObailout NObama

          yes, comments are posting slowly, and amazon thread is “transferring data” for several minutes.. along with some other IP’s

        • Zelda Crunch

          Yes they are posting slowly. Watching the connections being made one can see the big bottleneck is Amazon. Getting the data from Amazon takes ages; once that data has arrived it’s clear sailing.

          • Zelda Crunch

            and, of course, before the debate and/or the Barack Obama soliloquy

            Anybody know the story on that? I sort of hope they don’t do anything tonight. Because it would be full of vitriol. Somehow I think the campaign is going to be increasingly vitriolic anyway. Unfortunately.

          • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

            I reported this to our WordPress person. In the good ol’ days, I could get in there and fix it myself in a heartbeat — but not at the moment — for reasons not necessary to explain . soon we’ll have it set up so I can fix it myself. (What I’d do is just erase those ads for the time being.)

        • tzada

          Sometimes I get a page won’t load message. I hit resend and it usually works. Sometimes they won’t post at all, or maybe post and I cannot find them?

  • katmandu

    Here are two articles referring to economists who object to the bailout plan, for various reasons.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/701956.html

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aNhbZSQz2Vws&refer=us

    I have tried to get the list of economists Shelby is waving around — and I have seen reference to the number of economists on the list ranging from 35 to 500. (Well, maybe the list is growing.)

  • Midlife Mama

    The end of the fiscal year for our nation is coming up next week (Sept. 30). I believe this is the reason this is such a crisis at the moment, not the markets on Monday morning. This very well could be an economic terrorist threat from foreign countries calling in their massive loans to us. This bill is a band-aid for a much larger problem.

    I don’t believe a word our government says at this time.

  • Shainzona

    Did anyone see the report that Pakistan fired on US troops today?

    Add another crisis to manage.

    Where’s Hillary when we need her?

    • vinnie

      She can handle all this and then some. The Dems really f*cked up with not having her on top of this ticket.

      • Zelda Crunch

        The Dems really f*cked up with not having her on top of this ticket.

        And the pity is they don’t think so. They’re still in the tank, the bloody fools. Many of them – most of them – are too scared to tell anyone what they really feel. They’re probably as terrified as we are. Thanks so fucking much, David Axelrod, you fucking fascist. ;)

    • Zelda Crunch

      Where’s Hillary when we need her?

      Trying desperately to not get stuck under the bus.

  • just me

    Oh my goodness Harry Reid does not look confident…
    Is this the best we have to solve this problem.

    He is talking like he’s out sorting out his personal life! This is not our fault?

    Who’s fault is it they had the majority ?

    My word!

    • Urban Hillbilly

      And Sen. Reid attacks McCain for *his* temperament. Geez.

    • Zelda Crunch

      He is the first member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to serve as a Senate Majority Leader.

      Oh goodness. Oh shit. I mean, oh poo. ;)

    • Maverick

      Reid is to blame alright. He’s lying.
      They need to keep their grubby little paws off of the funds. The Dems are always begging for money and have zero fiscal responsibilty.

  • morganjane

    Reid is an idiot!!! McCain needs to come out and blame the Dems for trying to do this without the House support! And the dems don’t need them anyway, how is it McCain’s fault?!

    • Zelda Crunch

      The Dems have all rallied to a one, dancing to the beat of the Axelrod drum, to blame everything on McCain. McCain did the right thing; I don’t know how prudent it was, considering he must know dirty the Dems play this game; but it was the right thing, the honorable thing. The Dems have been despicable as always.

  • Jackie

    I am listening to Senator Reid. He thinks we need to cram this 700 Billion dollar sham down the throats of the people adding nonsense like funding ACORN.

    The VAST MAJORITY of the PEOPLE think this is a bad idea as do many, many Leading ECONOMISTS. 72% of the people think this is bad. Should our representatives not represent our views???

    Economists are more supportative of the Republican view of resolving this issue.

    Reid says that “we did not cause this.”

    Bullshit you lying theiving pieces of shit. DODD is guilty of incompetance and complicity. Barney Frank is guilty of pandering and complicity in the failing of Freddie & Fannie.

    We need our leaders to explain what they are trying to do.

    • Zelda Crunch

      adding nonsense like funding ACORN

      This is the worst. This is an OBAMA AGENDA. They’ve been brutalizing people in elections. This is Saul Alinsky funding all over again.

      • NObailout NObama

        Yes, the Alinsky model. Hillary said if it were implemented in its true form it would engender “revolution” in one of her college term papers…

  • http://excusemeforkickin.blogspot.com/2008/09/video-of-lindsey-grahams-interview-with.html RepublicanChick

    We have the crisis in Wall Street and DC.

    Tropical Storm Kyle has formed in the Atlantic and could possibly strike the Carolinas next week.

    Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin are talking nukes.

    Why did we get out of bed today?

    Oh, it’s Friday. Well, there’s something to be excited about. :-)

    • tish

      Missionaries in Kenya know Obama

      Thought you’d find this interesting. Celeste and Loren Davis are Missionaries in Africa and can shed some firsthand light on one of our Presidential candidates.

      Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here.

      Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence (over 350,000) and I don’t know the last count of the dead. Obama, under ‘friends of Obama’ gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in east Germany .. He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily. As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic, crying rigged election if he doesn’t win, and possibly cause a race war in America

      What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 9-11 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way. We have been working with them for 20 years this July!

      He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by the Muslim nfiltration into their countries.

      By the way, his true name is Barak Hussein Mu hammed Obama. Won’t that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran!?

      God Bless you.

      Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our nation to withstand the same kind of assault that every nation, including America , is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya , not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive.

      Jesus Christ is our peace, but the new world order of Globalism has infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking that they can compromise and survive. It won’t be so. I will send you a newsletter we sent out in February documenting in a more cohesive manner what I’ve tried to say in a few paragraphs.’
      **************
      **************
      Facts are facts!!
      I hope this makes you think a little bit.
      How anyone can dispute historical data is beyond me?

      George Bush has been in office for 7 years and 8 months. The first six years the economy was fine, and moving at a stable predictable rate. Even after Sept. 11 rocked our economy, we continued to grow economically= 2 0and move forward.

      About two years year ago:
      · Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
      · The Dollar was strong;
      · Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
      · The unemployment rate was 4.5%;
      · Most businesses were thriving in our country;
      · The DOW JONES hit a record high of 14,000+, and American’s were buying new cars, taking cruises, buying second homes and vacations houses, we were living large!…;
      · The USA was still respected and recognized for our global commitment!;
      · T he Dollar was strong, and the world wanted to invest in the good old USA;
      · Many did not agree with our tactics, but the world saw a unified America, never seen since world war II.

      But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So; in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress & yep; we got ‘CHANGE’ all right.

      In the PAST YEAR and some months:
      · Consumer confidence has plummeted;
      · Gasoline got to over $5 a=2 0gallon, and we have not seen the end yet!;
      · Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase)and rising;
      · Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 T RILLION & prices are
      still dropping;
      · 1% of American homes are in foreclosure, more to come;
      · As I write, THE DOW is probing another low at 11,508;
      · $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS have evaporated from our investment portfol ios;
      · The Dollar is at our history’s weakest margins;
      · The current US Congress (Led by Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden) made it a partisan agenda to stall, block, and fight any project of law that could help the incumbent party in any way!
      · Congress has since received the LOWEST public approval record
      in history! Lower than that of their one and only nemesis which they have set out to destroy with rhetoric=2 0and lack of support; Our President.

      YEP, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!…AND WE SURE GOT T!!!….Only in America can our own government institution bring us down to our knees as our Congress has in 18 months!

      NOW OBAMA, SAYS HE’S REALLY GOING TO GIVE US CHANGE!!….
      · Increase Income Taxes;
      ·Increase Capital Gains Taxes;
      · Reinstate the Inheritance Taxes to higher levels;
      · Withdraw our forces from Iraq (Possibly reversing our hard won victory);
      · Nationalize Healthcare (Now I know I’ve heard this before? Yes Michael Moore!) neither have a clue, it just sounds good!;
      · &nb sp; Reduce Military spending (Clinton set us back 10 years;20this clown will have us asking the UN to protect our interests by the time he gets through!);
      · Wants to “To Talk” and “Understand” our worst enemies, and does not want to seem insensitive by wearing our flag;
      · He is going to achieve all this by crossing “Party Lines”!!! An inexperienced Democrat President, with a failed Democratic Congress in power at the same time? Why would he need to cross any lines? Obama must think that we are all really stupid!
      · JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND???…. .

      Tags: missionaries, kenya, obama
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  • agent77

    Missouri officials to criminaaly charge people who make anti Obama statements

    http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

    Lets these ‘officials’ know what you think of their anti free speech actions

    St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce and St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch

    Telephone: (314) 622-4941
    Facsimile: (314) 622-3369

    http://stlcin.missouri.org/circuitattorney/

    • Maverick

      Barack Obama’s truth squad? OMG! He has public officials and cops to go after people who post TV ads. O boy! Wake up people.

  • Shainzona

    Over at TexasDarling they have a story that BO is now admitting to having dual Kenyan/US citizenship at birth. They think he’s putting this out “quietly” so that he can avoid a Repug ad producing his Kenyan birth certificate (that his father/father’s family probably got when he was born in Hawaii.)

  • just me

    Looking at the financial meltdown how the hell do these people even try and negotiate with
    Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin??

    Half the country has no confidence in the people that are in positions to protect us and they put on that sad show this morning.
    Harry Reid you should be ashamed of yourself.

  • tzada

    OT on economic Crisis but still a crisis.

    How can Obama cling to so many many many Muslims or peoples of Persian or Arabic heritage? Why after 9/11 did he say he would stand by the Muslims? Why did he go to a churdh that was racist towards, Jews, whites and Italians? How could anyone with those heritages vote for him? Why did Biden vote to give mullahs in Iran $ 200,000,000? Keep in mind the thought they were Arabs. Gaff school 101 down the hallway at the extreme left Joe. Irains are PERSIAN Stumblin Joe.


    Iran students unveil book mocking Holocaust

    Iranians chanted “Death to Israel” as a group of Islamist students unveiled a book mocking the Holocaust in an annual parade on Friday to show solidarity with the Palestinians.

    Featuring dozens of cartoons and sarcastic commentary, the book “Holocaust” was published by members of the Islamist Basij militia.

    Education Minister Alireza Ali-Ahmadi was present in the capital’s Palestine Square for the book’s presentation during the annual Quds (Jerusalem) Day parade.

    The cover shows a Jew with a crooked nose and dressed in traditional garb drawing outlines of dead bodies on the ground.

    Inside, bearded Jews are shown leaving and re-entering a gas chamber with a counter that reads the number 5,999,999.

    Another depicts Jewish prisoners entering a furnace in a Nazi extermination camp and leaving as gun-wielding terrorists from the other side.

    Yet another shows a patient covered in an Israeli flag and on life support breathing Zyklon-B, the poisonous gas used in the extermination chambers.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080926111949.vk2p8oxk&show_article=1&lst=1

  • morganjane

    Something is fishy when whatever the Bush admin. wants the Dems are ready to give him… not too many questions?
    The market is failing because these businesses want a handout! This is the politics of fear… something else could be done! Wallstreet has a gun to our heads and is demanding 700 billion! Look at where the money has gone.. how much has Obama gotten from these guys? Barny Frank and Obama are in their pockets… that is what needs to be said! McCain needs to go against Bush and blow Nancy out of the water… Nancy thinks she can blame this on McCain, he needs to turn it around and say that we are not doing the bailout… we are doing something else!

    • Urban Hillbilly

      Pres. Bush will take taxpayers every single chance he gets and he will not blink an eye doing so!

      • Urban Hillbilly

        *should say “taxpayers money”*

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    Biden asks for $51 million in earmarks during the crisis.

    Is this true? Anyone heard anything?

    • Mr. Natural

      And they wonder why we don’t trust them…

    • Mary

      True.

      In the last spending bill they passed, calling it “Help for Main Street,” there are $6.6 BILLION in earmarks.

      Of that , $54 million are for Biden.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Wake up people, the bail-out is good for OBama because it is good for WaMu, Bears and a host of other companies, and who bought these companies, JP Morgan.

    Who sits on the board of directos of JPM and holds a major chunck of stock in JPM? James Crown, Obama’s co-chair of finances, the same guy who put money in Obama’s pocket when Obama was suppose to be seeing him to save the Maytag jobs!

    What people are not coming to realize also is the impact this whole mess is having on the international markets who have invested in bonds in the billions with companies like WaMu and Bears ect. that will become useless and will halt foreign investments in America based on the present deal in place, making any form of recovery long term.

    McCain protects investments,Obama and the Democrats protect their friends and ACORN, which is better for America now and in the future, international comfort in investing or James Crown and ACORN profiting from a lousy bail-out?

    • Mr. Natural

      Crown is a good name to remember. For a while, he and members of his family donated quarterly to Obama’s Senate campaign. And I do mean quarterly. It was like they were making dividend payments.

      Source: http://www.Opensecrets.org.

    • Mercedes

      I am glad you brought up the subject of JP Morgan. I was just beginning to wonder about them myself. They really seem to be profitting on these firesales now.

      It would be nice if some untainted journalist out there could inform us a little bit more about JP Morgan Chase, its board of directors, and its CEO, Jamie Dimon, named by Fortune (I think) as one of the 100 most influential people in the world.

      From every one of the little bits and pieces of information I’ve been able to scavenge, that institution firmly supports Obama’s candidacy, even though they are probably aware of all of his questionable activities and associates.

      I wil be keeping my eye out for more info on these guys.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

        Bailout Deal Breaks Down – Where’s Barack
        http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showComment.do?commentId=18840

        The meeting in the WH was extremely contentious. The Dems had a deal the Dems agreed upon but when the Rs saw what they were up to, they balked and then Harry Reid completely lost it and Franks blew a gasket. What the Dems had done was commit a huge chunk of the bailout to ACORN. Wow! That’s a group that has been investigated for vote fraud in 17 states, suspected of thuggery, organized crime, money laundering, criminal waste, you name it. Obama’s campaign gave over $800,000 to ACORN.
        ………………..

        CALL YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND TELL THEM NO PORK IN THE BIGGEST RESCUE BILL IN HISTORY! Stand firm and tell then NO PORK!

  • just me

    I heard something on fox news about Biden.

    But have no link guess Fox will have it somewhere

  • Sue

    Breaking on Fox News…

    McCain will debate tonight!

  • Indy

    Harry Reid is beneath shit, and so are the rest of the Dems who are laying this at the door of McCain. And propping up the clueless BO. And this LIE that McCain didn’t really suspend. I’m in a battleground state and all I saw in the hour I watched network TV last night was BOs ugly mug spinning his bullshit. Didn’t even see a 527 for McCain.

    It’s obvious that McCain had nothing to do with the failure of the non-existent deal.

    • Creature of Chicago

      re: the ads.

      I’m also in a battleground state, PA.

      I noticed the barrage of B.0. ads in contrast to no McCain ads. When these productions stand alone, with no counterpoint, they start to sound like a harangue. 0bama’s on this kick now of producing these extra long ads featuring only his own self so obviously reading off a TELEPROMPTER. They just go on…and on…and on…

      Only those truly enamored of him could sit through to the end.

      • Mr. Natural

        Demagoguery – that’s what it is.

        I hear Hitler liked long speeches too.

      • Indy

        Same ads here (CO), and I noticed the same. I’m sick of his face (all over the internet), and his voice on the radio and the constant stream of bs from his little blue mouth. And then all his puppets repeating the talking points over and over, hoping if the lies are repeated enough we’ll think they are the truth.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    McCain is going to debate!

    • Mel in TX

      Thank Goodness – he needs to debate and school Ohblowme like no other !! Send O’s sorry but back to Chicago with his tail between his legs !!

  • benny

    Whats wrong with these politicians? there is a real crisis, and all we hear is more partisan bickering. the D’s and R’s should work together and bring a good proposal. but looks like all they want to do is grand-stand. what absolute idiots. all of them should be voted out. when are they gonna realise that they are there to serve the people, not for their partisan politics?

  • wodiej

    I say the bill should stipulate that all CEO’s and exec’s at these companies surrender all of their bonuses, severance, pension packages, stock and any other little goodies they received. OR NO DEAL. Not only did they bankrupt these companies, put the American economy in a financial crisis, but they stole money on the way out the door. They should tell these companies, if they want help, cough it up.

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      Only problem with that is other banks will have access to the funds…ones who have done nothing wrong from what I understand.

  • NHDem

    God it’s scary how stupid you all are.

    • Urban Hillbilly

      ^^^ TROLL ALERT – DO NOT FEED ^^^

    • NObailout NObama

      McCain could win NH. The troll is foaming mad.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    So Why won’t my comments post?

    Obama went to the gym to work out, it is at Politico

    • NHDem

      Please justify for me why this is a bad thing. Any doctor will tell you exercise is the best way to get rid of stress. He has a pretty intense day ahead of him.

      Since when is exercise a bad or elite thing to do?

      • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

        Fine. If your house catches fire, I want you to go to the gym while it’s burning, because it’s good for you to exercise. Ok?

        • NHDem

          YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL MORON! YOU MAKE ME SICK!

          It is because of YOU and your vote for BUSH that got us in this mess in the first place.

        • Maverick

          “““`TROLL ALERT“`USE IGNORE BUTTON“`

  • NHDem

    So how did everyone think Palin’s CBS interview went??

    Let me guess! You think she did just greeeaaat!

    Even though even the National Review Online (extremely consevative) thinks she needs to bow out. But hey, you morons must know somehting the rest of the country doesn’t!

    • Urban Hillbilly

      ^^^^ TROLL ALERT – DO NOT FEED ^^^^

    • Firefly

      Does NH stand for New Hampshire, troll? If so, it’s too bad for you that McCain – AND PALIN – are gonna win your state – and THE PRESIDENCY.

      You see, it matters NOT what you think, or pretend to think, about Sarah Palin. She’s soon to be Vice-President of the United States.

      • NHDem

        Ok, whatever helps you sleep at night! I am SO excited for November 5th!

        Palin is a joke, even her own party thinks so, you retards are the last to catch on, as usual.

        How’s the “Whitey Tape”?
        How’s the fake BC?
        How’s Larry Sinclair?

        Remeber, according to you Obama was going to be out long before now and he’s doing better than ever.

        I haven’t been on here in a while, have you all admitted yet that you were never for Hillary in the first place?

        • NObailout NObama

          Poor little guy. He is foaming because NH is in play. McCain could win NH.
          Foam on troll.

          McCain/Palin

          Country First!

        • Terry

          good idea – vote on Nov 5th. The sane people will vote on the 4th.

  • tzada

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13970.html

    McCain will go to debate

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) announces: “The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners.

    • tzada

      Read the entire article. Were those statements coming from McCain or from Politico? I am unsure but thought they were coming from Politico. OMG has the world turned upside down? Can we hope that there is fairness at last?

      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13970.html

      • NObailout NObama

        Dont get your hopes up. The was an anomoly.

  • Hillary the President

    Obama supporters:

    It seems that your candidate has admitted his dual citizenships. You may want to take action now for requesting your donation be refuned if you’ve donated. He’s not qualified to be president of the USA for having dual citizenships.

    • jd4hill

      Got a link — I mnean besides to TexasDarling’s website — until this has legs on the biased MSM no one will know about it.

      I’d like nothing better than to see the man bow out but where is the proof he admitted this?

      • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

        Go to his stopthe smears site and scroll down to the paragraph in little print. It’s there. Do your own goddamned work.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    We have to dig for REAL root causes. The root cause of this problem is NOT the housing crises. The root cause is WHAT CAUSED THE HOUSING CRISES.

    • tish

      Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008 Alone… Dems Ignored Warnings Sep 26, ’08 8:00 AM
      for Debby’s network

      Sunday, September 21, 2008
      Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008 Alone… Dems Ignored Warnings

      For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

      Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

      The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
      Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

      ** 2001

      April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

      ** 2002

      May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

      ** 2003

      January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

      February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

      September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

      September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

      October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

      November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

      ** 2004

      February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

      February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)

      June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

      ** 2005

      April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)

      ** 2007

      July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

      August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

      September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

      September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

      December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

      ** 2008

      January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

      January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

      February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)

      March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

      March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)

      April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)

      May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

      “Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)

      “[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)

      “Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)

      June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)

      July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.

      In 2005– Senator John McCain partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending.
      Democrats blocked this reform, too.

      More… Not only did democrats not act on these warnings but Barack Obama put one of the major Sub-Prime Slime players on his campaign as finance chairperson.

      UPDATE: The media is not reporting that the failed financial institutions are big Obama donors.
      Hat Tip Larwyn

      Labels: Campaign08
      SOURCE

    • Maverick

      CEO’s of the banks and lenders created this crisis. Hillary calls it (paraphrased)”loans designed to fail”. Didn’t Penny Pritzer help design these subprime loans?

  • John Smith

    I just don’t see how he will win. All the polls are giving the democrats a 10 point advantage over McCain. Even though in 2004 the Democratic and Republican turnout was at 37% > So they want us to believe that in 2008 there will be 20 to 25% less Republicans voting then in 2004. This is the craziest thing I have ever heard.

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Barack Obama will not win this election.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        Your darn tootin’ he won’t.

        • Maverick

          ““““TROLL““““““““

    • NHDem

      Do you have a job? How do you function on a daily basis?

      • Maverick

        ~~~~TROLL~~~

  • NObailout NObama

    NOBAMA makes a statement injecting himself in delicate negotiations and says he has been on the uh ah uh phone uh ah all day with uh SENATE DUMBASSES DODD AND REID uh uh uh and uh some uh republicans and uh uh see if we can uh uh hopefully allow uh uh negotiations to uh uh ah uh reach ah uh uh deal.

    This fraud makes W sound eloquent. ARRRRRRRGH!

    NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA

  • apishapa

    I never see anything from anyone who is actually going through foreclosure. I know I’m not the only one.

    I am losing my home. No one wants to bail me out, and I haven’t asked them to. I have accepted that my son and I are going to be on the street, or actually until I get a house, we will live with my mom.

    I do not deserve this. I did not have a subprime loan. I had a fixed rate 20 year mortgage, and I never was even one day late until last March. My payment was deducted from my paycheck. Suddenly, in January, the bank sent a notice that I had a $10000 “overage” (coincidentally the exact amount that I had paid off my principal in the last four years) and that my payment was going to increase by $550/month.SInce then they have added another $10000 in “expenses” to the payoff. I called the bank a dozen times in January. They refused to talk to me. They said they have a service company that oversees my loan. I called them. They said, pay it or get out.I cannot get an explanation as to how this could have happened. I cannot afford a $1250/month payment. That’s all there is to it.

    FINE. I stopeed making payments and now I’m being foreclosed on. This house is worth maybe 70% of what was owed on it, before all the added on bullshit. I don’t want to move. I have raised all four of my kids here. I still have two children at home. I’ve lived here for 15 years, but I will not pay money I do not owe.

    And I really want the bank that did this to me to suffer a little, too. So forget bailing those jerks out with my money. If I lose my home after doing everything I was supposed to do, simply because of banker greed, well, I damned sure want them on the street, too.

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      Did you think of getting a lawyer before you stopped making payments?

    • John Smith

      I think all the banks that that took on bad loans and can’t function anymore should have the same faith as WaMu. Why should we give money to these banks so they can collapse at a later time.

      On an other note. In PA in the 2006 election had 38% Republican vote , 43% Democrat vote and 19% Independent vote. In 2004 it was 41% Dem, 39% Rep, 20% Ind.

      Now how do the pollsters conclude that there are 10% more democrats in this state then there are republicans. After what happened with Hillary do they really think that there will be such a great Democratic turnout for Obama.

      I think it will be even among democrats and republicans. Independents are breaking for McCain so the polls are skewed by 5 points. This give McCain a 1 to 2 point lead in PA. I really think that PA will make or break this election for McCain.

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Yes the bank should suffer! And you should be able to re-negotiate your mortgage. And FAST! I think both sides of this argument agrees with that! I think that congress is working on this as well.

      But as far as the value of your home goes, MY house is worth less too. EVERYONEs house is worth less right now. What do you do? You stay where you are and you ride it out. The values of homes go up. They go down. They go up…..well you get the picture.

      • apishapa

        I think it is too late to renegotiate. I tried for 3 months o get some kind of response from them. They will not explain how I could never miss a payment, yet have an overage. I did not decide to give up on this lightly.

        The foreclosure auction is next month. I am probably going to file bankruptcy. I am not going to pay the money they tacked onto my loan. I do not owe it. They won’t explain it. If I have renegotiate and pay that money, I will not do it. This house it not worth it. They stole my equity. They took away every bit of principal I had paid off, then tacked on a little more. That is what they did.

        If I work myself to death paying a loan that just goes up, I am wasting my life. I am going to hire a lawyer for the bankruptcy, but I will not hire a lawyer so that I can pay more for my house than I bought it for. I just don’t care anymore. I can rent a house for a lot less.

        • Maverick

          Go to a mortgage company that does Loan Modifications. Banks won’t listen to the borrower.

  • Diana

    McCain will be at the debate. Now all he needs to do is confront Obama on his meeting with the leaders of Iraq.

  • NObailout NObama

    Anyone researching NObama knows his muslim background. He never left it. Kenya is a great example of Obama/muhammedan tactics to overthrow by a few a government by the many. Free, unfair, rigged elections through little helpful organizations like ACORN. Obama’s baby.

    COUNTRY FIRST!

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I see the right is turning on Palin now…
    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

    Did other governors know the answers to the questions that were ask in the CBS interview? I doubt it.

    • John Smith

      The people who are excited about Palin don’t care one way or an other they see a media bias so what ever the media says they take the opposite view. Palin brings the republican base for McCain, that is really all that really matters. They will adore her regardless what some Pundit writes in a column.

  • NObailout NObama

    She has the right instincts. America’s instincts. Relative to Biden, who is a walking gaffe, she glows in comparison. The bar is low for Palin, and we will give her time get the DELIVERY of her message in a more sound byte conducive syntax, while we try to absorb the colossal stupidity of Biden’s relentless stream of untruths, half-truths, anecdotal absurdities and unintelligible musings that are all too sound byte friendly.
    Also, in light of the senators now in the headlines, i.e. REID, DODD, CASEY, and the HOUSE “LEADERS”, PELOSI and FRANK, PALIN is a welcome relief. We sort of “get” that she isn’t out to screw us to the wall!

    McCain/Palin

    COUNTRY FIRST!

  • caringnurse1

    apishapa..You are one who should be bailed out, not them..They should be foreclosed on and their CEOs should be held accountable..You are one of the many that McCain is concerned about..Instead, they will get bailed out and be free again to do to others what they are doing to you..That is totally unfair.

  • Patrick Henry

    Great Video Susan and Uppity..I just watched it…
    and it connects the dot so well even Bill Ayers Students could Understand the Scope of the Message…

    It leaves the same Bad Taste that one Feels when they hear of a Marxist Like Chavez using His Position and Power as a Dictator to Confiscate all Property and eleminate Freedom and Democracy..

    What will be the Remaining Chain of Events for the United States if one continued Connecting the Dots in Uppitys Video..??

    I too feel the same sadness at the Collapse of Washington Mutual..and hear reports of more local Banks caught in the Sub Prime Mess…

    There are some large Institutions that not only survived the Sub prime Situation… but made hugh profits off of them..

    They knew it was FOOLS GOLD…and Investors would Lose thier SOCKS.. Man..

    This is the Best Blog on the NET..because it catches the BIG FISH..

    • Maverick

      287 289 banks have failed in the last 2 years. What changed? Why everyone crying now?

  • Leibniz08

    Its the quadrillion $$$$ in derivatives due to bankrupt investment banks like Goldman-Sachs, and the pirate hedge funds, not a few billion in mortgages.

    The bailout will never work as it does not address the derivatives black hole,it will only bide a few months breathing room till barkey or McCain starts begging again as President of USA Inc.

    Pay up peons!

  • Lou Filliger

    Low income people have a means to get housing: it’s called hard work. Taking my tax money to fund it, now that’s called stealing. Some people have apparently not learned this distinction yet but my sense is they are going to learn it soon.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I don’t sign online petitions. I don’t want to give out info to who knows who.

    But I will call my Senators and my House member today.

  • Liz B

    I can not find a link to copy of the above video posted by Uppity Woman. I want to send it to everyone I know, please help me find a You Tube Link, because I don’t see one posted.

  • Diana