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Acorn Funding Is Out, Sources Say [Updates with more confirmations]

By SusanUnPC on September 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM in ACORN, John McCain

[UPDATE: I've added more confirmations at the end of this story. Among those updates is one report that gives John McCain some rarely reported credit for bringing C.S. to this deal: "It was John McCain [who] brought the House Republicans to the table, enraging the excreble Harry Reid who only wanted McCain back to do the Democrats bidding and causing serious enough problems with [Nancy Pelosi that] she squealed that the Republicans were ‘unpatriotic’. …”]

Original: According to Jennifer Rubin, the fine columnist for Commentary magazine and a recent guest on Nocturnal Warrior’s radio show, the Acorn slush fund is probably out of the bill. From “Who Got What“:

From the reports about the contours of the deal, it appears that the final product is indeed less horrible than it could have been. The ACORN slush money is gone, there is no tax (only the promise that a recoupment plan will be submitted to firms in the future if the taxpayers are out of pocket), there is an insurance aspect and there is greater oversight. The House GOP “got something.” Nancy Pelosi “got something” — a bunch of GOP votes for the bill. John McCain may have gotten something — proof that he prevented the House GOP from being steamrolled, which in turn resulted in a better, bipartisan bill. And Barack Obama got two weeks of attention on the financial crisis.

Monday will be a telling day — the market will open, more polling will be taken, and the bill will be drafted and ready for a vote. If this amounts to the greatest financial triage in history all involved will be remembered fondly. If it is too little, too late, all of them — not to mention every American — will pay the price.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Special thanks to Andy for sending me this great post.

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CONFIRMATION UPDATES via Memeorandum.com screenshot — click to go to the list of stories:

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Protein Wisdom responds to Ryan Grim’s obvious distress that this removal will harm affordable housing measures:

I don’t know if Ryan Grim was looking at a different version of the bailout bill than I, but the version I saw stated that not less than 20% of profits realized from any individual profitable sale would go to ACORN and related entities. This WSJ article delineates the links between ACORN and the housing authorities named, who fund the ACORN Housing Corporation.

TITLE I – Authorizing the Treasury Department to Buy Mortgage-Related Assets

Sec. 5. Rights; management; sale of troubled assets. (24 Comments) subscribe to the comments feed

  1. EXERCISE OF RIGHTS.The Secretary may, at any time, exercise any rights received in connection with troubled assets purchased under this Act.
  2. MANAGEMENT OF TROUBLED ASSETS.
    1. IN GENERAL.Except as provided in paragraph (2), the Secretary shall have authority to manage troubled assets purchased under this Act, including revenues and portfolio risks there from.
    2. CORPORATION AUTHORITY.
      1. IN GENERAL.The Corporation, shall manage all residential mortgages and residential mortgage-backed securities purchased by the Secretary under this Act.
      2. REIMBURSEMENT OF COSTS.All costs and expenses of the Corporation in carrying out this paragraph shall be reimbursed to the Corporation by the Secretary.
      3. SYSTEMATIC APPROACH.In carrying out this paragraph, the Corporation shall utilize a systematic approach for preventing foreclosures and ensuring long-term, sustainable homeownership through loan modifications and use of the HOPE for Homeowners Program established under section 257 of the National Housing Act and any other programs that may be available for such purposes.
      4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS.The Corporation shall provide to Congress a monthly report on its activities under this paragraph during the reporting period, including specific information on the number and types of loan modifications made and the number of actual foreclosures occurring with respect to such loans during the reporting period.
      5. SALE OF TROUBLED ASSETS.The Corporation may, at any time, upon terms and conditions and at prices determined by the Secretary, sell, or enter into securities loans, repurchase transactions, or other financial transactions in regard to any troubled asset managed by the Corporation under this paragraph.
    3. ACQUISITION OF SECURITIZATION POOLS AND MORTGAGELOANS.The Secretary shall, to the extent practicable, acquire
      1. sufficient ownership or control of pooled residential mortgage loans, or a securitization vehicle for such loans so that the Corporation has authority to modify the underlying residential mortgage loans, either directly or through a designee; and
      2. whole residential mortgage loans, so that the Corporation may use its authority to modify the underlying residential mortgage loans, either directly or through a designee.
  3. SALE OF TROUBLED ASSETS.The Secretary may, at any time, upon terms and conditions and at prices determined by the Secretary, sell, or enter into securities loans, repurchase transactions, or other financial transactions in regard to any troubled asset purchased under this Act.
  4. TRANSFER OF A PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS.
    1. DEPOSITS.Not less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under this Act shall be deposited as provided in paragraph (2).
    2. USE OF DEPOSITS.Of the amount referred to in paragraph (1)
      1. 65 percent shall be deposited into the Housing Trust Fund established under section 1338 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 (12 U.S.C. 4568); and
      2. 35 percent shall be deposited into the Capital Magnet Fund established under section 1339 of that Act (12 U.S.C. 4569).
    3. REMAINDER DEPOSITED IN THE TREASURY.All amounts remaining after payments under paragraph (1) shall be paid into the General Fund of the Treasury for reduction of the public debt.

Emphasis mine. So, can Mr. Grim please clarify?

See, also, Darleen, for McCain’s role in stripping this odious provision. [h/t Hot Air Headlines]

  • fred

    Possible Change of Heart: Rezko Ready To Talk

    Rezko Talked With Prosecutors, May Aid Probe, Sources Say.
    Excerpt: Rezko’s possible change of heart—after years of steadfast refusal—has sent ripples through a tight circle of prominent defense attorneys who represent dozens of potential witnesses and targets in the wide-ranging probe.

    His cooperation would give prosecutors investigating the governor and his wife access to someone they have described as an ultimate political insider at the center of a pervasive pay-to-play scheme.
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

    Things are getting heated.

    • Vicki

      Look at the wording, typical press spin:

      “ACORN outrage removes affordable housing provision”

      At the rate they were going, housing would soon be worth zero. Is that affordable enough?

      • tek

        Let them say whatever they want, just don’t give our money to Obama’s get out the vote organizations. God, he’s worse than George W. Bush. I wrote my senator and gave them an earful on the ACORN/LA RAZA/URBAN LEAGUE provision of the bill.

        • Dawnelle

          Good!

          Very good!

    • Zorro Astor

      They must heat up faster and in another direction. The FBI have to stop going after Blag. He isn’t going anywhere. He will hold. They have to go after Obama. Now. Get a clue, Fitz! ;)

    • catherine

      I’m loving this :D

  • No Way, No How, NoBama

    My prayers have been answered–thanks for this, Susan.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

      Do you know if the Bail Out Bill is posted anywhere in its complete form?

      • No Way, No How, NoBama

        I’ll try to find out more than the draft from Pelosi. In the meantime, I found this article from the WSJ from a few days ago. I need help remembering the timeline of these events.

        Spencer Bachus, an Alabama Republican House member who initially supported the talks, recalled the meeting boiling over. “Then I started detailing what we wanted in the bill, and that’s when Speaker Pelosi started yelling at me,” he recalled.

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247077035980785.html?mod=article-outset-box

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

          Does she yell at her children too?

          • No Way, No How, NoBama

            Only when the botox starts wearing off a little.

          • Zorro Astor

            She has children? OMG. Poor children. Can’t the authorities intervene?

            • just me

              she has a daughter in polotics? I saw her on MSM talking shes like her mother with long black hair.

              Funny how NP is always show on TV with that smirk like a smile on her face….

              I hope Cindy Sheenan or someone outs her in SF….

              What a woman!!

              • just me

                Can’t the authorities intervene?

                LOL their probably glad their older and left home…

        • TeakWoodKite

          Arizona Republican Jeff Flake says Sen. McCain sent the message that Republicans want to do more for taxpayers. “For him to come and say that coincides with our message completely,” said Mr. Flake..

          I respect Rep Flake. Have any of you watched him on the house floor?

          Fighting Pork is strong with him.

        • tek

          I notice that the article refers to Obama’s “four well-known principles he wanted in the bill.” guess they didn’t want to print that Obama was trying to get 20% diverted to his grassroots Chicago organizations.

      • jrterrier
        • street_parade

          Cheers for providing the link.

  • benny

    Hmmm…..we’ll have to wait and watch. I’ve been hearing about this bipartisan effort for some time now. Lets hope the damn politicians come together, and responsibly try and heal the economy.

  • Sharen

    Good I don’t want a dime of my money going to that evil radical organization

    • beebop

      AMEN!!!

      They are beng investigated here in Ohio so I would be plenty PIZZED if they were rewarded for their alleged FRAUD with goodies on the backs of taxpayers.

  • Concerned Citizen

    It seems that these are times calling us to draw lessons from Mr. Churchill and the words he spoke in 1942:

    “Never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy”.

  • Free Speech Is Threatened

    NObama’s government teat is drying up. NObama worked FOR ACORN as a “community organizer” and then represented ACORN as a defense lawyer/liar when he was with Frank M. Davis’ law firm. Frank is the communist, black supremacy mentor that NObama talks fondly about in his book Dreams of my Father. Frank mentored barak NObama for about 10 years. NObama’s grooming began years ago. Frank was an associate of Obama Senior’s, Thomas Ayers and Percy Sutton. If you dont know about this relationship just search the names.
    But, striking funding now for ACORN does not address the clear and present danger America faces: b hussien muhammad obama soetoro.

    McCain/Palin O8

    • ritamary

      Obama never worked for Frank Davis. He worked for Allison Davis. Frank Davis was a friend of Obama’s grandfather in Hawaii. He was the communist. Allison Davis is just a run-of-the-mill political crony of the Daley Machine.

      • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

        oh, yes, so sorry. The filth that NObama associates with is so vast that it is difficult to keep it all straight. However, here is the connection to the banking nightmare we are facing. This is the firm where NObama met scum of the earth Meeeeeeeechele “i hate whitey” NObama: Sidley’s enduring tradition of more than 140 years of commitment to client service, quality and collegiality continues to distinguish and define our firm.

        In May 2001, the law firms of Sidley & Austin and Brown & Wood merged to become Sidley Austin Brown & Wood, a significant legal power in the international arena. The two firms melded a 235-year combined legacy of service and legal innovation in the U.S. and around the world.

        Brown & Wood was founded in 1914 in New York and, over the years, established a preeminent position on Wall Street. Brown & Wood’s practice focused on the international capital markets, serving investment banks and major financial institutions.

        Why is it that nothing surprises me with these scumbags?

        McCain/Palin

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Glad to hear this news about ACORN. They don’t tell you these details on TV.

    • Jackarooty

      Fox did! Fox did today!

      • Mandelay

        Yes, Fox has been hammering ACORN every chance that came their way in every interview.

        • just me

          Thats awesome and I guess many here sent this information to Hannity and Fox….

          What an awesome blog we have here…

          Keep up the good work : EVERYONE….

  • lark

    Oblahblah statements on the bailout can be summarize as:

    What McCain said.

    What Paulsen said.

    What Pelozi said.

    What Reid said.

    What the President said.

    • lark

      Forgot the most important.

      What Hillary said.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        AND THAT is where the true POTUS is found.
        There is no excuse, no reason, no possible “get out of jail free” card for what the Democractic National Convention did this year. There is no paying back that can be done. There is no “making up” that can make up for what took place. This is THE reason our country is beginning to crumble. The greatest, the wisest, the most qualified, the most capable and the best candidate was ignored, slandered, beat down, shoved around, treated like dirt and finally forced to allow the coronation of “he who would be king” or face extermination from her party or worse.
        We NEED Hillary Clinton, we need her as much as we need air, water, food, clothing and shelter. We need her as much as we need life itself. If our country is to continue past this presidential term, Hillary Clinton is the best hope of getting us there, barack barry hussein obama soetoro represents the absolute demise of our country. The DNC chose barry over the voter’s choice. In a legitimate convention roll call, he would have lost. In a legitimate primary, he DID lose, only with the illigitimate elements for this illigitimate child did he garner enough delegates through his strong arm tactics and set up caucuses. The very fact the Hillary Clinton is not the person who is vying for the office of POTUS at this moment against McCain is the reason the democratic party will fall, and it most definitely will fall. Democrats will remain and they will regroup, but the democratic part of 2009 will not look like the democratic party of 2007-2008, perhaps it will go back to the party it was or perhaps it will come out better, but there is one thing obama has changed, he has changed a LOT of democrats into republicans and a LOT are ardent democrats into democrats who are now ready to reform their OWN party to prevent the likes of him ever happening again.
        Yes, I rambled.

        • Ferd McBerfle

          Yes, I rambled.

          But it is well-thought out rambling–no problem with that.

  • NeedProof

    I’m starting to panic.

    The polls are all in Obama’s favor by a pretty wide margin now.

    Palin is getting killed.

    We need a game changer, don’t we?

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      Yes we do need a game changer…be it the ” whitey tape” or the words out of Rezko’s mouth.
      It’s getting very late in the game folks lets go get ‘em….

      • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

        It is early in the game still, in 2004, the Swiftboat gamechanger occurred 10 days prior to thvoting and Kerry at the time held a +17 point lead up to that point in time.

        Timing in politics is everything and the GOP are masters of timing.

        • http://deleted YES HRC

          Absolutely, they are the masters at it. The Republicans are far too upbeat. They’re waiting for the right time.

          • http://deleted YES HRC

            Their dilemma will be which scandal to offer up first.

            • Ellen D

              Are all the “Truth Squad” threats because the Obama campaign knows what is coming? I sure hope so.

              • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

                Good point, Ellen. Obama’s campaign managers must be aware that the 527s as well as the GOP have some damning revelations they can put out, and that the 527s and/or GOP will do it if they need to.

                To MEL: Re Kerry up 17% — I can’t remember that wide a margin, but I know you know your stuff. That’s wild.

                But I do think that the Swiftboat material came out far earlier than 10 days before the election. I know because we were watching and showing a documentary about John Kerry’s service in Vietnam at least a month before, in large part because of the Swiftboat attacks.

                • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?” Opampers

                  Good point, Ellen. Obama’s campaign managers must be aware that the 527s as well as the GOP have some damning revelations they can put out, and that the 527s and/or GOP will do it if they need to.

                  I was thinking they could do a 527 on the attempts to censor critics of Ohilter. I would not be surprised to see that.

                • Clarence

                  Because he’s WRONG.

                  I don’t know how many different ways I can say.

                  People that push this line are NOT helfpul to the cause, and people that blindly nod along to the fantasy make it worse.

                  We cannot fix this until everyone realizes that there IS a problem.

                  This race is slipping away from us, and the only chance to save it is for people to stop spouting nonsense and deal with reality. We have to fix this in reality.

              • Zorro Astor

                Are all the “Truth Squad” threats because the Obama campaign knows what is coming?

                I presume so. And don’t worry about the polling – after this weekend McCain will be back out in front. Voters are more fickle (and far more dumb) than Wall St.

                • Ferd McBerfle

                  Voters are more fickle (and far more dumb) than Wall St.

                  An unfortunate truth.

          • sowsear

            I only worry about Rove. Was he only pretending to help the Dems, trying to eliminate the threat that HRC could win, is he actually for Obama, is he trying to foment race riots if McCain wins so Bush can declare martial law, or is he waiting for the right moment to help McCain?
            Right now we need the game changer or we’ll all be in the gulag.

            • Jules

              I “think” Rove is a die-hard Republican. Though it truly is weird what he did to help the Dems get Hillary out of contention, I don’t think he would have done it if there was not some huge scandal waiting to come out about Obama. Just my opinion.

        • Jackarooty

          Thank you! I’ve been getting nervous too. I’m giving McCain 4 years.

          It was only 10 days before election day in 04 that the Swift Boat ads started?

          There is so much more to unload regarding Bambi than there was on Kerry.

          • newengland

            The swift boat ads started in August. Sheesh. You folks are so off the wall you can’t get basic facts right.

            • Zorro Astor

              Actually they started even earlier. In May. How about YOU get your facts right and stop criticising others?

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_for_Truth

              SBVT first went public with a May 4, 2004, press conference declaring opposition to Kerry. When the press conference garnered little attention, the organization produced television advertisements. On August 5, 2004, SBVT began airing a one-minute television spot in three hotly contested states in the ongoing presidential election.

              ‘Off the wall’? You define it by your rude behaviour.

              • Clarence

                Well, with all due respect – it’s time to stop being polite.

                People spreading this nonsense about everything being fine ARE HURTING THE CAUSE.

                People need to wake up and realize this election is getting away from us PRECISELY because too many people are engaging in this fantasy world about Kerry being “up” in 2004. HE WASN’T. Bush had a lead that wasn’t much bigger than Obama’s by this point. The rats with their dirty tricks whittled it down a bit, but the key was BUILDING THAT CUSHION.

                We do not have that this year. WE ARE LOSING.

                We cannot fix that until everyone gets it pounded through their thick heads!

                You cannot fix a problem until everyone is clear there IS a problem.

                Attack me all you want for laying it out so bluntly – I don’t care. I have one goal for the next 5 weeks – and I cannot achieve that goal if too many people are sitting back saying everything will be fine.

            • McHope

              The swift boat ads were started in August.

              The rude and illiterate troll calling itself newengland failed to see the question mark at the end of Jackarooty’s second sentence.

          • ritamary

            Yeah, the stuff they said about Kerry was lies. What they know about Obama is the truth.

            • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

              WRONG.

        • Clarence

          [DELETED FOR RACIST, LEWD COMMENTS by Admin.]

          • No Way, No How, NoBama

            Ok, Clarence, what do you want to do? We’ve already had a zillion threads on that dirtbag but we cannot force the Koolaid drinkers into sobriety. This site has already exposed him and there’s plenty of stuff out there already on YouTube in Bambi’s own words. So now what?

            If the zero wins, we should all just get a ranch in Montana and hide out for 4 years–they’ll probably be looking for us anyway.

            • Clarence

              Exactly.

              A million threads. How many calls could have been made in place of the meaningless atta boy comments? We’ve become the bizarro Kozkidz – everyone coming here wanting to jump in the echo chamber. I spent 3 hours phone banking for McCain yesterday at a GOP office in Indiana. I couldn’t find a McCain office. There was me and ONE OTHER PERSON, who couldn’t even get me a list…and I had called ahead on FRIDAY to make sure there would be work to do!

              I ended up surfing the internet until I finally found a source for a phone list into Iowa.

              I’ve been volunteering for Presidential elections for more than 30 years – and I haven’t seen things this disorganized since the 70s.

              The scattershot crap needs to stop, too.

              A zillion threads.

              Exactly. Why do you think everyone except the zombies ignore the KOZKIDS? BECAUSE THEY HAVE A ZILLION THREADS TOO! When you draw distinctions between you and your opponent by throwing everything under the sun against the wall to see what sticks – you render yourself ineffective.

              • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

                The McCain phonebank is available online. For your state. Go to the websit http://www.McCain.com

          • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

            ummm the time for October surprises is in October, hence the name. Obama won’t be President, it’s not a problem, it’s not going to happen.
            Even if he manages to steal the election ala his carbon copy bush, he won’t serve. Some right wing radical whacko will do the unthinkable. The worst thing about that is it would martyr him. I prefer seeing him lose, letting all the information come out over time, seeing him drummed out of politics and never heard from again after his significant loss to McCain.

        • mimi

          I don’t think they should wait that long. After all, Bush was an incumbent.

          Also, why is Palin getting killed? I don’t see where she’s made such a public gaffe. The msm, the Botheads, the liberal feminisits, the comedians, the tabloids have all ganged up on her similar to the way they did Hillary. (I imagine she now knows how it feels.) Where’s the Palin truth squad?

          • Clarence

            See?

            This is exactly what I’m talking about.

            I saw those interviews with cupie doll Couric – and they were NOT good! I was willing to chalk up the Gibson interview as just an off night, but we’ve got a problem here.

            I refuse to just stick my head in the sand say all this talk about Palin is all MSM. She hasn’t looked good.

            She damn sure better be spending this entire week in long, long, and thorough debate prep.

            We shoulda gone with Romney. Michigan would toss-up, if not lean McCain. Nevada would be locked up. New Hampshire would be locked up. With the money Romney spent in Iowa, we wouldn’t be getting blow out there. Florida wouldn’t be looking a lot closer than it should.

            At this point, it is only my hatred of Omoron that keeps me going because as crappy as the McCain campaign has been, they don’t DESERVE to win.

        • NHDem

          that is not true at all. kerry ran 3-5 points behind bush through most of october.

    • Shiloh

      You should be panicked – McCain is going to win easily.

      • Clarence

        If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

        This isn’t helpful.

        • Ferd McBerfle

          If you’re worried, go out and do something. If you’re not, then you’re a Concern Troll. Either way, it’s up to each individaul to do something. I, for one, will not succomb to panic or hand-wringing.

          • Ferd McBerfle

            Oops–succumb. Mea culpa.

          • Clarence

            In fact, Fred, I have.

            All fall. I’ve spent every weekend since early August volunteering – and I see things getting worse, not better.

            This weekend was damn near the last straw for me. I traveled to Indiana to visit some family – and planned to spend some volunteering at the local party office (see, I tried to find a McCain office… but there ARE NONE IN THE WHOLE DAMN STATE!). I called the office and told them I’d be available all afternoon on Saturday. They said sure – come on out. I got there, and there was ONE PERSON at the office… and he didn’t even have a phone list! I had to go online and gets a list myself – of IOWA numbers… which I had to call on my own phone because the yokel manning the office wasn’t sure if they COULD even call Iowa from an Indiana office.

            And all I got out of calling Iowa is a realization that Iowa is gone. Done. Over. This was a GOP list I got (I know someone who used to be a county party chair) – and on this list of calls to supposedly reliable Republican voters? less than half voting McCain. Almost a full THIRD of this REPUBLICAN list were actually voting Obama.

            I’m not a newcomer to stuff like this. I know how phone banking goes – and I also know how it should go when you’re working off of a party list.

            A lot of this is frustration, I admit – but I’ve been around long enough and done this stuff enough in my life to know when we’re in trouble… and I’m here to tell you, Fred: We. Are. In. Trouble.

            We cannot fix that until take a sober look at the situation and realize we’re in trouble. Only then we will have any chance to fix this.

            • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

              here you go. https://secure.johnmccain.com/secure/signup.aspx?txt_homeemail=Email+Address&actionzip=Zip&x=47&y=20

              that is the sign up page that you can use to phone bank at home. If you want privacy, just press *67 to keep your name, phone number private.

              Good Luck!

            • McHope

              Ok, Clarence,
              You’ve peaked my interest. You have been doing this a long time. So what is it you would lilke to see McCain supporters do at this time?
              More phone calls?
              More emails?
              Handing out information?

              What has worked for you in the past?

              • Ferd McBerfle

                I am beginning to think he is JM08, who was banned from here recently.

                • Jules

                  Plus I don’t believe a true ‘reliable’ Republican is going to stretch far enough to vote OBAMA. I’m not buying this either.

                  Democrats have an easier time moving to McCain because he’s really more of an independent. It’s just not going to happen the other way around.

                • Snickers

                  You know Ferd, Clarence might actually be telling the truth. I haven’t seen his name here before, but that doesn’t mean he is lying. I’ve been begging people in my state to vote McCain/Palin. I just talked to my niece who was thinking of sitting it out. Unfortunately my state is in the solid blue category, Oregon, but I’m trying really hard to turn it red.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      It’s a shame that McCain is being blamed for the economic meltdown. I don’t think Palin is the cause of these wide swings whatsoever.

    • lark

      Is nice to see a completely inappropriate candidate take the lead in the pols. One thing good may come if Obama wins the presidency. We will be able to save billions of dollars in education all across this country. Once high schoolers find out that this underqualified candidate won the presidency, they will realize they do not need anymore to graduate from high school to be able to serve and work in any field or career of their choice. The school system can end children education in 8th. grade and they could even begin college at 14. Colleges can also graduate people in one year. Saving three years of expense and partying. A master’s degree could take only three months and a Ph.D the better part of 2 weeks.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        cool, I’ve been putting off my Ph.D. because of the time it takes. 2 weeks isn’t bad.
        Will it still count after the kool-aid wears off?

    • Chicago Joe

      what happened to that comment you made the other day about a female staffer in the Obama Chicago office? Were you able to verify?

    • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

      “NeedProof”, don’t panic. There is no need to. This is but one weekend in a long process. Just as a stopped clock is right twice a day (or once if it’s digital with the am/pm), Obama will have a point in time when he is up, but it will quickly slip away, just as it always does. At the moment, people are very afraid, when fear sets in, they follow the person who can speak the loudest and promise the most, even if they are empty promises. As soon as the dust settles and people regain their composure, they will quickly see what the dust obscured and will realize that not only does obama not have the answers to the problem, he was part of the creation of the problem. They will see that only after McCain arrived, did the real bipartisan work begin. They will see that McCain rallied the republicans and convinved them to work WITH the democrats, never a small feat, and without him, there would be no sunday afternoon announcement or plan to address the emergency.
      Don’t be afraid, obama will give his own game changer because he is an inadequate, unqualified candidate. His hoof and mouth disease will always bite him in the a$$.
      That aside, a revelation from those who have the information is more than welcome and would be just another nail in obama’s political coffin. This weekend’s work will spell the end of Obama, he just doesn’t know it yet.
      Many things can happen in 37 days. In 40 days, God flooded the entire world. In 40 days, those waters receeded. In only 6 days, the world was created, it can be destroyed in one. (for those who follow Christian thought)
      For the non-religous, a woman has an entire cycle in 28 days. The moon goes completely around the earth in 28 days (not just a coincidence). An entire week comprises only 7 days, a month is 30 days(average) and we know how much time a month can hold when we are anticipating something. 37 days is a very long time for things to go wrong and a very long time to play hide and seek. At the same time, it’s a very short time for an empty suit to materialize into a real candidate.
      We have 37 days left before the election. I’m not worried about what McCain or the republicans will do, they will do their jobs. This will hinge on what obama does to himself. With 37 days, no opportunity for a vacation to “hide from the press” and nobody left to protect them since they are all under the bus, he’s on his own and he knows that HIS OWN HANDS are the worst place anyone could ever be.

      • just me

        and when they go to the polls on 4th Nov they will vote in the safer mature voter!

        People always so for the one to make them feel secure.

        Hopey changey means nothing ans their unsure what there going to get.

        The maverick will come out on top.

        What we need to go is make sure someone watches all voting places : This is where the crime will go down.

        • just me

          voter = candidate!! typo

  • ford

    If that were only true…BO has money sources everywhere…and he will lie, cheat and abuse others to get what he and his brain Axelrod want…

    he will be an open wound on the USA, we must not give up.

    • No Obama for me

      Ford,

      You are right, we MUST NOT GIVE UP.

      I think the Swift Boat attacks started in late Aug of 04.

      Where are the Republican attack dogs????
      I am surprised that they haven’t brought them out.

      • Clarence

        We need to stop waiting for the cavalry.

        That’s a long wait for a train that ain’t coming.

        John McCain needs to stop this suspension nonsense and GET BACK OUT ON THE TRAIL!

        We’re getting killed on the Atlantic coast. The midwest is slipping away – I called into Iowa this morning, using a Republican list – and if my 100 calls are any indicator, Iowa is gone. I participated in another phone bank into Minnesota, again, using a Republican list – not encouraging.

        I’m working my butt off to try to turn this around, but we’re getting NO HELP from the campaign.

        McCain needs to dump Schmidtt and Davis and bring in Rove, because it’s pretty obvious these two doofuses cannot do anything right.

        • mimi

          If you are calling Republicans and their attitude is one of indifference then that means that the Repubs are willing to throw this election, regroup and in 4 years come back swinging. They’re are willing to sit back and let 0bama be a disaster as president, so that the Republican Party can then dominate the WH to infinity.

          If that’s the case, then there’s nothing we can do.

        • Jules

          John McCain needs to stop this suspension nonsense and GET BACK OUT ON THE TRAIL!

          I read an opinion on why he “supsended his campain” that made me say “a-ha”. It said that he made a huge deal about going back to Washington because he was trying to shine the national spotlight on this bailout/rescue bill. With so much press attention, Congress (Democrats) would have a hard time slipping through the shady stuff (such as the Acorn slush fund). THAT’S WHY THEY DIDN’T WANT HIM THERE AND OBAMA STAYED FAR AWAY UNTIL BUSH LED HIM BACK BY THE EAR. Whether this was McCain’s intention or not, I think the country owes him some gratitude, because this goal was accomplished. Remember McCain puts “country first”. I for one respect what he’s done and I think the financial magnitude of this mortgage crisis is not fully understood by most. Even Obama is mentioning “Depression” and he can’t postpone his campaign for 3-5 days? HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE in my opinion. But then again, what expertise would Obama have to offer anyway–NONE.

          • Ferd McBerfle

            Your analysis is spot on.

    • Zorro Astor

      If that were only true…BO has money sources everywhere…and he will lie, cheat and abuse others to get what he and his brain Axelrod want…

      Why are people so easily fooled? Are people that stupid? Obama and Axelrod seem to use that as working hypothesis.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        yes, people ARE that stupid.
        A PERSON can be smart. They can listen, they can reason, they can make decisions, but PEOPLE, as a group, are stupid to the core. They are lemmings who will follow whoever has the flute. (yeah, I know the pied piper led rats, not lemmings).
        PEOPLE are dangerous, that’s why we can’t deal with PEOPLE. We need to deal with a PERSON on a one to one basis. For every PERSON we speak to, that PERSON will speak to another. If we speak to 10 PERSONS, and each of them speak to 10 more and so on, THEN we will get somewhere. The MSM targets PEOPLE and the fears of PEOPLE and get them all in a frenzy. PEOPLE don’t vote, an individual PERSON votes and that individual person, without the MSM or all the other people in the voting booth with them will make a choice based on what that PERSON thinks, not what PEOPLE think. This is one of the truisms we must consider and use in our favor.
        I’m no longer interested in campaigning FOR McCain, my only focus and my only actions are now to campaign AGAINST obama in every way, shape and form that I can. I don’t care who wins, I just care that Obama LOSES. ANY PERSON on the Presidential ballot would be better than this one “person” Barrack Hussein (barry soetor) Obama. I intend to ensure that every person I come into contact with is well aware of that fact.

  • debbie

    Hey — whatever happened to that whitey tape?

    • Uña de Gato

      With your head up your butt, why don’t you check there for it?

      • Mandelay

        This made me laugh despite the signs that my bank is about to fail so I thank you very much! Viva McCain!!!!!

    • Shiloh

      If I had it I wouldn’t have released it yet. There’s your answer.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        If I had it, it would have been released in the Primary so Hillary would be the one running right now. Since it wasn’t, I see very good reason for waiting. You want the maximum effect at the best time and that time has not yet come.

    • http://deleted YES HRC

      Stay tuned, little debbie. The whitey tape is child’s play compared to what BO will confront re scandals.

      • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

        Please ignore the trolls. It’s great without them. Please don’t let them into the conversation with their jabs. They add nothing.

        • http://deleted YES HRC

          Suggestion noted, but some of us believe the trolls are simply “Undecideds” who need more information and enouragement to vote intelligently. Why else would they be here?

          • newengland

            Is that so? I’m here to taunt you. It’s not very challenging so it’s amusing for a very short time.

            • Perry Logan

              I think we can take newengland at his/her word on this.

              The trolls at NQ cannot possibly be paid by the Obama campaign. The Obama campaign is pretty weird, but they would not pay people to come here and taunt the PUMAs. Their motives are–as newengland confesses–personal and malevolent.

              Then there’s the Horror Story of Obama’s Fans:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GCNfc4tsug

              • Perry Logan

                Did I say “malevolent”? My bad. :(

                I meant to say “malicious.”

            • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

              your short time is almost over. Are you going to stick around when the table turns and it’s our turn to taunt you? Of course not, you are a spineless coward, you would never do that.

          • Zorro Astor

            Why else would they be here?

            Two possible reasons.

            1. Because they’re scared shitless Soetoro is not going to establish the 4th Reich after all. Everytime something goes wrong with that campaign they come in like mad. If something really goes really wrong they stay away because they’re shaking with fear. But slight dips and setbacks drive them here.

            2. Because Axelrod is conducting ‘psychological warfare’ and he pays them to do it.

            ‘Undecided’ implies a modicum of decency these people do not possess. ;)

            • http://deleted YES HRC

              I was just messin’ with the trolls. It is kind of fun to see their “I am rubber, you are glue” responses. hehehe

          • ritamary

            They are being paid by the Obummer campaign to hassle us.

        • Jackarooty

          Yeah where is Matt? I was having a lot of fun cursing him in Yiddish on an earlier SusanUnPC blog.

          It was great fun.

          It’s not worth anyone’s time to reason with them.

          As Billy Joel said, “never argue with a crazy mind”…

          • Zorro Astor

            Yeah where is Matt? I was having a lot of fun cursing him in Yiddish on an earlier SusanUnPC blog.

            Yeah that was cool. I enjoyed that! ;)

            • Jackarooty

              Let me know if you want translations!

              He never answered the comments. Maybe that’s the way to deal with these trolls.

              Curse them in Yiddish!

              SCHMUCKS!

    • just me

      it’s in a safe place and people keep getting invited to watch it who said it was going national?

      GROUPS, STAFF MEETINGS, U NAME IT THERE WATCHING IT.

      However u will never be invited because you keep asking…

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    REINVEST, REIMBURSE, REFORM

    IMPROVING THE FINANCIAL RESCUE LEGISLATION

    Significant bipartisan work has built consensus around dramatic improvements to the original Bush-Paulson plan to stabilize American financial markets — including cutting in half the Administration’s initial request for $700 billion and requiring Congressional review for any future commitment of taxpayers’ funds. If the government loses money, the financial industry will pay back the taxpayers.

    3 Phases of a Financial Rescue with Strong Taxpayer Protections.
    • Reinvest in the troubled financial markets … to stabilize our economy and insulate Main Street from Wall Street

    • Reimburse the taxpayer … through ownership of shares and appreciation in the value of purchased assets

    • Reform business-as-usual on Wall Street … strong Congressional oversight and no golden parachutes

    CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RESCUE PLAN.
    Protection for taxpayers, ensuring THEY share IN ANY profits

    • Cuts the payment of $700 billion in half and conditions future payments on Congressional review

    • Gives taxpayers an ownership stake and profit-making opportunities with participating companies

    • Puts taxpayers first in line to recover assets if participating company fails

    • Guarantees taxpayers are repaid in full — if other protections have not actually produced a profit

    • Allows the government to purchase troubled assets from pension plans, local governments, and small banks that serve low- and middle-income families

    Limits on excessive compensation for CEOs and executives

    New restrictions on CEO and executive compensation for participating companies:

    • No multi-million dollar golden parachutes

    • Limits CEO compensation that encourages unnecessary risk-taking

    • Recovers bonuses paid based on promised gains that later turn out to be false or inaccurate

    Strong independent oversight and transparency

    Four separate independent oversight entities or processes to protect the taxpayer

    • A strong oversight board appointed by bipartisan leaders of Congress

    • A GAO presence at Treasury to oversee the program and conduct audits to ensure strong internal controls, and to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse

    • An independent Inspector General to monitor the Treasury Secretary’s decisions

    • Transparency — requiring posting of transactions online — to help jumpstart private sector demand

    Meaningful judicial review of the Treasury Secretary’s actions

    Help to prevent home foreclosures crippling the American economy

    • The government can use its power as the owner of mortgages and mortgage backed securities to facilitate loan modifications (such as, reduced principal or interest rate, lengthened time to pay back the mortgage) to help reduce the 2 million projected foreclosures in the next year

    • Extends provision (passed earlier in this Congress) to stop tax liability on mortgage foreclosures

    • Helps save small businesses that need credit by aiding small community banks hurt by the mortgage crisis — allowing these banks to deduct losses from investments in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks

    Office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi – September 28, 2008

    No money for Obama’s ACORN

  • ford

    I am ready for some 527′s that turn even my stomach…whitey tapes…?? passport info?? The Pub’s must have something.

    Mac has nothing to gain by holding back, and I think in the debate he was really letting loose….

    the game changer is coming, and it should hit this week.

    • Shiloh

      It is not up to McCain when and whether that stuff comes out. He will decry it when it does.

      • jwrjr

        By law McCain (or any other candidate) cannot have any connection with the 527s.

    • http://villamedia.wordpress.com/ RepublicanChick

      Obama and his Truth Squad know that something must be coming. Hence, his panic to use laws in several states to squash any “misleading” ads that will be shown on TV.

      If Tony Rezko works with federal prosecutors and sings like a bird, I would say he has handed the Republicans a major victory. Although, time will tell.

      There are many 527 ads that have been run, but you can only view them on YouTube these days due to the fact that Obama will sue or use local laws against anyone that shows them.

      This is stifling freedom of speech in this country.

      It is time to fight back!

  • IndianaDem

    ACORN was probably never really in–at least to the extent that rumors suggested. We should all understand how these things work by now: Opposing factions always propose more than they have any actual expectation of realizing, then negotiate toward a middle ground where everybody gets some of what they wanted.

    • Free Speech Is Threatened

      ACORN was in under the “Capital Magnet Fund” provision in the first draft.
      Up to 35% funding. 20% was the minimum.

      Let’s see what it says…

      McCain/Palin O8

      • Chicago Joe

        that is correct. It did not say ACORN specifically, but that is the type of organization they were talking about in that section.

  • http://www.deadenders.wordpress.com scott in jupiter

    I remember someone placing a bet in regards to this. Well you WIN.

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/28/obama-mccain-gets-credit-wall-street-bailout

    barky says he deserves the credit for the bailout and McCain deserves NONE.

    • candymarl

      McCain was the one that opposed a bill with no taxpayer protection.

      According to Pelosi those safeguards are now there.

      I say the taxpayers won.

    • No Way, No How, NoBama

      Wanna bet Obama was the main one fighting for the ACORN provision that was removed at the last minute?

      • jwrjr

        AND fighting against the safeguards.

        • No Way, No How, NoBama

          I think they claim ACORN is a safeguard. Besides, they can do stage lighting in a pinch if the money is right.

      • I have a bracelet too!

        McCain said he’d “name names” for pork…well THAT didn’t take long now did it? Barky was his FIRST NAME! The reason McCain had to beat feet back to DC and suspend his campaign…go figure the irony of that.

    • jrterrier

      i say, let him take all the credit. the american people don’t want that piece of trash.

      and, i hope mccain stops calling it main street. we are people, not streets.

    • ritamary

      Obummer didn’t want to participate in the negotiations until Bush called him back to Washington. Obummer said he was too busy preparing for the debate. Do people remember this? It was only a few days ago. He said they will call him if they need him. And now he is taking credit for this? Just like his usual pattern of taking credit for other people’s work.

      • Ferd McBerfle

        It’s amazing how soon the electorate forgets. Oblockhead wasn’t working on this package for two weeks as he stated. He was cramming for the debate. He isn’t even able to manage his prevarications (obamalobotobots: that’s a fancy word for lies) anymore.

        • just me

          and playing golf

    • Jules

      Obama is a lying sack of shit. What exact financial experience does he bring to the table? He has a lot of nerve. I sure as hell see through his lies and I hope the rest of America can too.

  • ford

    I think Palin should come out with her moose gun loaded…I think she should throw down issue after issue at Biden to defend BO…I think she should answer every question with a question directed at Obama..the insuing free for all will run out the clock, and Pandora box will be open.

    A nice woman could do this, and this chick can dress a moose.

    I am not giving up on Palin.

    She onle has one debate and she cannot play it straight..the MSM is gunning for her and will eat her whole..

    Biden can wear his underpants on his head, and they will talk about what a card he is…

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust
      • navyvet48

        Is Biden a drunk? He certainly seems to have some of the qualities of an acoholic! UGH!!!!

      • NHDem

        yeah and 31% have a VERY UNfavorable view of her where only 21% view Biden that way.

        i really like how you cherry pick the facts though. nice try.

        • Ferd McBerfle

          The results of any poll are not facts. They are only data or information. Facts require objective verification. Christ.

    • IndianaDem

      I actually feel a certain sympathy for Sarah Palin’s situation. She’s an interesting and personable lady with many admirable traits, has done well on behalf of the state she governs, and likely has a future that goes beyond what she’s already accomplished. But they’ve thrown the poor woman into the deep end of the pool before she was ready for it and started swimming lessons after she hit the water.

      You never know about those debates. I like Joe Biden, but he has been known to suddenly enter a room wearing his underpants on his head.

      • Shiloh

        Some of what you say about Palin is true for Obama, just not the sympathy part.

      • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

        Sarah Palin’s fine, and she will adapt to interviews with a DC / NY press corps out for her blood. Those gotcha moments will become easier to handle with more experience, but she knows how to debate already.

        • McHope

          Right,
          The media has the power to make any person appear the way they want them to. Joe Biden’s interview with the same person, Katie Couric,the same week was by far more disasterous. That gets left unreported; and Couric was not even trying to ask him any tough questions.
          Not only that, they don’t even show preplanned interviews with Biden, there simply is no interest for it. That says something in and of itself.

          Gov Palin did answer the question about Sen McCain’s reform agenda. She cited the bill he co legislated to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Couric then wanted Palin to cite other legislation McCain had worked on specifically in relation to economics. She pushed and pushed. What Palin should have done was spin, like they all do, right back to the original point that McCain was ahead of this situation by saying what is important now is the struggling economy and McCain had the foresight and judgement to deal with it. She will learn how to redirect the conversation.

          Right now, her flaw is she is answering from the perspective that the interviewer sees McCain as she does, as an honorable man with good judgment. It doesn’t seem to occur to her that they are truly out to get her and McCain.
          Of course the pursed lips and squinted eye face of Couric’s should have give her a clue.

          Biden’s been stumping all over the country and stating policy and opinions in direct conflict with Obama, but Palin is required to know every peice of legislation John McCain has read for 35 years.

          God knows we shouldn’t hold our breath and wait for Obama/Biden interviews of that nature.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        She may surprise the MSM by taking to swimming like…a duck takes to water. Maybe the deep end of the pool will bring out the best in her and leave them eating their hats in response.

        • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

          I’d like to add, this “little lady” has been thrown in the deep end time after time after time in her life and sometimes dove right in on her own. She has come out well each time, there is no reason to believe she won’t do the same. Just because she’s from a small town, a low population state and isn’t a “citizen of the world” does not make her a “stupid hick”. Some of the greatest minds I have ever encountered have been small town folks who aren’t in the rat race but could easily take it on if they had the desire to do so.
          Some people live in small towns because they HAVE to, most live in small towns because they WANT to. Sarah Palin is not an ignorant hick,…. she only plays one TV for the MSM’s enjoyment. We may see something in the VP debate that we weren’t expecting at all.
          Throwing her in the deep end may be akin to the MSM thining they are teaching Michael Phelps to dog-paddle. There could be a big, big surprise for them and for all the palin-haters out there.
          She’s the mother of 5 children, one a special needs child, has served on the city council when she saw that things needed to be changed, then as mayor when she saw that things needed to change, then as Governor when she saw things needed to change, now, she’s up for VP and things need to change. I’d say she’s right where she’s supposed to be and will NEVER back down from any fight of any kind. She doesn’t know how to “surrender” and it’s not an option in her character.

  • Tattie

    I give all the credit to John McCain to bringing to light the deal the dems had for ACORN. I just pray to God the American people will realize what they have in John McCain

    • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

      McCain and Sarah bring the best of America out.
      NObama hates America, and Americans.

  • ford

    Palin could also point out that the MSM seems to want to make their star witnesses against her in troopergate two known wife beaters, and tie that around the MSM neck.

    She should work her way down a long list of corruption of BO and Biden…with full outrage.

    • newengland

      Right. Because former Mayor Palin has such strong credibility of being pro-women after folks found out that she wanted to charge rape victims for evidence collection after Biden’s Violence Against Women Act and state legislation prohibited it.

      • McHope

        Are you completely out of your mind?
        There is no, absolutely no, evidence of a single rape victim paying for a rape kit in Wasilla. Not ONE!
        Not only that, if anyone were ever to have been charged, it would have been directly from the hospital, not the city or state.
        You should really be ashamed of yourself for pushing such utter trash and using the issue of violated women to make a false point.

        • newengland

          You have a remarkable ability to create your own reality. Of course they were charged. This was reported in Alaska and non-Alaska newspapers.

          http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/523708.html
          http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm

          • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

            YO, stupid, you didnt READ the article you linked. Another REALLY STUPID troll

            Maria Comella, a McCain-Palin campaign spokeswoman, said Palin “does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test.” To suggest otherwise, she said, is a “misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice.”

            $100 McCain/Palin

            • newengland

              Oh, so what the campaign manager says just has to be the truth — not all the other folks who say otherwise? Funny!

              • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

                IT WAS YOUR LINK MORON

              • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

                I looked up the stats on Wassilla,
                From 1996-2002, when Palin was mayor, there were a total of 5 rapes (in the entire 6 years) and none of them required the victim to pay for the rape kit.
                Look it up yourselves if you want, but it’s in public record for all to see.
                None of the 5 rape victims during the two terms that Palin served as mayor of Wasilla paid for their own rape kits. (none of the FIVE of them in a six year period, none of the FIVE total rapes. FIVE of them, all FIVE. Did I mention there was a total of FIVE?)

          • McHope
      • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

        hey, KOOL AID KID, most states require payment for the rape kits.
        Get lost in the hurricane, moron.

        $100 to McCain/Palin

        • newengland

          No they don’t. It was prohibited by federal law, the law championed by Joe Biden.

          Congress in 2005 passed a law requiring states to provide rape exams free of charge or reimburse victims for the costs, says Knecht, whose group supported the provision.

          “The reason we passed the legislation was that we saw it was prevalent enough to be a pretty considerable problem,” Knecht says. “There are no other victims of crime that end up being billed for evidence collection.”

          The Senate version of the legislation that included the rape-exam provision was sponsored by Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, the Democratic vice presidential nominee. Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was one of 58 co-sponsors; Republican presidential nominee John McCain was not.

          http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm

          • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

            You are STUPID. You make a false statement, provide a link referencing 2000 that opposes your assertion, then post a quote that addresses a time period which not only opposes your original assertion implying that Alaska violated federal law, but also covers a completely different time period, 2005.

            Complete dolt.

            Get a life, ask someone to explain the articles to you and do the right thing.

            McCain/Palin

          • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

            Ummmm…..Palin’s Mayorship ended in 2002, the bill was in 2006. It was four years AFTER she was no longer mayor.
            Additionally, none of the FIVE people who were raped there during her term as mayor were required to pay for their own rape kit.
            Look at actual numbers and actual facts instead of talking points and ideas. Facts trump ideas every time. Dates kinda help things out too since the bill was 4 years after she was no longer mayor.

      • jwrjr

        That bit of toxic waste was debunked long ago.

      • Ferd McBerfle

        That lie was refuted long ago, dizzy. The bot of the day wants you to return to botHQ for reprogramming and reboot.

      • ritamary

        That is a lie made up by Obot nut jobs like you.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        I’m sure the rape statistics for Wasilla are just “overwhelming” and you can surely produce many, many women who were forced to pay for thier own rape kits to back up your statement can’t you?

  • http://villamedia.wordpress.com/ RepublicanChick

    Thank you Susan for posting this informative article. Please pass this article out to everyone you know.

    Actually, make it a point to send every NQ thread out to anyone that you know.

    It is too important to just sit on the sidelines.

  • Sassy

    Senator Gregg held a news conference a short time ago on C-Span.
    Possible votes in the House and Senate tomorrow.
    Appears to be a go at this time.
    He mentioned over-sight, C.E.O. golden parachutes, “warrants” to recoup money if properties sell for less than their buy-out.
    He “stressed” that they were required to act, for the situation was dire!
    May still blow!

  • ford

    Maybee the truth squads know that Whitey Tapes are coming and they are getting their defense in position to prevent it from hitting TV..

    • Shiloh

      They know something is coming and they can’t prevent it but they are laying the ground work for screams. They can dish it out but they can’t take it.

      • newengland

        You folks are real funny.

        • jwrjr

          While you (and trolls in general) are merely pathetic.

        • Ferd McBerfle

          That should be “really” funny, illiterate bot. And the only ones who are really funny sad are you addle-brained obamabots who actually think the sky is going to open up, the birds will sing, and your Tin-Plated messiah will be elected. Maybe on your Planet Claire but not here.

          • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

            :::sigh::: I miss Hillary. That was similar to one of her lines….
            DAMN I miss Hillary

        • Zorro Astor

          You’re not. You’re sickening, pitiable, and pathetic. And it’s way past your bed so run along. You’ve got Show and Tell at 8:30 AM.

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      If the whitey tape is true and ( I usually believe my lying eyes when viewing a tape ) then it’s true and the truth squad cannot prevent it’s exposure . they cannot stop free speech or viewing and they only threaten people …they are paper tigers.

  • tbww

    Don’t be fooled into thinking that this development changes any of the fraud that ACORN is currently administering in every battleground state.

    THAT should be our main focus. It has to be stopped.

    There should be an emergency federal investigation of ALL ACORN sponsored voter registration efforts before Nov. 4.

    • IndianaDem

      Indiana requires positive ID before you can cast your vote. Other states should have done the same. This seems like a basic and entirely reasonable requirement to me.

      Registrations should also be cross-checked using the E-Verify database to eliminate non-citizens. It wouldn’t remove all who shouldn’t be voting, but it might nail a lot of them.

      • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

        I read that Obama introduced legislation in the Senate to do away with voter identification.

        All the pieces fit together.

        • IndianaDem

          Yep. He was critical of the court decision that upheld Indiana’s ID rule. It’s one of his positions that I disagreed with. Just because I support Obama doesn’t mean I agree with him 100%.

          BTW, both McCain and Obama support E-Verify employer requirements for immigrant workers. It’s a good program.

          • McHope

            Yep. He was critical of the court decision that upheld Indiana’s ID rule.

            That issue alone should give you pause in your support Obama.

          • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

            how do you read these articles and support someone so blatantly anti-American?
            You know most of us are thinking, loyal Democrats? There are millions of us.
            The Democrat Party has been hijacked.
            Please put the Kool aid down.

            • No Way, No How, NoBama

              They are under orders to be nice, remember? LOL

              • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

                ROFL

                oh let me say nice things about Hillary now!

                HILLARY LOVES AMERICA.
                NObama the filthy commie hates you and me, the heart and soul of America.

                Remember, bots, be nice and let us say what we want. We will cave in to you soon… around NOv. 5th.

                McCain/Palin

        • NHDem

          Texas Darlin! Queen of the KKK!

          • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

            no, TexasDarlin is queen of WordPress and truth in politics, you have her confused with obi-barr-kenyo-bi who is king of the NEW KKK, the hate group that despises all white people and cries racism when he doesn’t get what he wants.
            There is very, very, very little white racism left in the world, but black racism runs rampant. The shoe is on the other foot. Blacks supporting obama for nothing more than their skin color are the racists now and it’s no better now than it was a hundred years ago when some whites hated blacks for the same reason blacks hate whites now.
            Racism is ugly no matter what form it takes. NHDem, YOU are a racist.

    • Zorro Astor

      RICO on ACORN.

  • PewL

    Sorry off topic some,But thought I’d report The National Examiner in Canada has Obama’s picture on the front page Saying Shocking proof,Obama a Muslim.The school records,that were posted here on this board a month back,.has the same records posted in the Examiner,and the Examiner asks when Obama will come out of the closet? Is this just a Canadian version,or is the National Enquirer the same paper?It’s all over the front page anyway,thought you’d like to know.

    • Free Speech Is Threatened

      LINK?

    • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

      I believe anyone protesting at an Obama rally could copy the school records as a hand out and blow it up for signage. Can’t dispute that no matter how hard they try.

    • PewL

      I don’t have a link,I bought one today.Look up National Examiner,and see what you find.

  • nycdave

    Did you guys hear what Barry said?? He said that John Mccain does ot deserve any credit for the improvement on the bill. He said that he is responsible for this and that hehad been working on this bill for 2 weeks. THis man is a piece of shit.

    If it wasn’t for Mccain and house Republcans this bill would have passed the way it was originally structured, How dare that empty suit piece of shit say that he is responsible for this?? This is the same guy who said ” call me if you need me” and headed to the GYM. I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH.

    • No Way, No How, NoBama

      I think the ACORN stuff will stick to Pelosi and Obama (as well as a few others). She came out and said they had an agreement a few days ago and the ACORN stuff was still in so I’m starting to think this is going to stick.

      I think the civilians (non-NQ readers..) need to know more about ACORN.

      • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

        A couple times on Fox today they were discussing Obama and ACORN and Obama paying them 800,000 and having to change the FEC files they lied on, that nancy and others wrote about

  • lark

    If Obama wins, there will be quite a few important areas of studies that we will have to engage in to understand the future of oour country. Venezuelan studies. Russian studies. Chinese studies. Cuban studies. Kenyan studies. Angolan studies. Congolese studies. Somalian studies. Lybian studies. Indonesian studies. Etc. Enroll soon while there are openings available.

  • nycdave

    If this was the 1980′s Barry wouldn’t have gotten passed Iowa. What has happened to our country?

    • Free Speech Is Threatened

      He intimidated, threatened and cheated his way through the country. Remember Hillary?

      McCain/Palin 08

    • http://www.missmalevolent.com Miss Malevolent

      George Bush Jr. happened.

      And a complacent easily propagandized populace happened.

      The Republicans had their Svengali in the personage of George Bush Jr. Now the Democrats have theirs, Barack Obama

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        exactly. obama is the carbon copy of bush. They are cut from the same cloth. One and the same from opposite ends of the political spectrum, but still, essentially the same person.

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      the country has been dumbed down. Now people want tingling in their legs and CHANGE whatever the hell that means..Too bad we have to go down to their level but dumbness drags us all down…Most people in America believe in angels…I guess they could vote for barry no problem…

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        Why does nobody ask WHAT CHANGE is he going to make? What will change, how will it change, what will it be after it changes? All we get from him is “hope and change” that’s it. I want to know what this change is that he’s hoping for? Is he hoping he changes into a leader who can actually do something??

  • Linda

    Good and necessary news if they are to provide ANY kind of BAIL OUT plan.

    But how can they leave it open. That can only be changed after the original bill is passed…or shall we say…AFTER THE NOVEMBER election, when their reelections are all secured.

    …hubby just finished making this one.

    …me thinks someone may want to use the imagery for buttons to scare the heck out of folks for Halloween.

    I hear this will be a frightful drink they will be trying to push upon folks.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/2896350654_77cb8c5274.jpg?v=0

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      Funny!

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        Ghostbusters had to deal with the Stay-Puft Man,

        We have to deal with Kool-Aid Man

  • MMI

    Pelosi and company are pushing to tax companies getting a bailout IF the taxpayers don’t recoup their investment.

    So, government is buying bad debt from failing institutions which probably should go bankrupt and get bought up some other company. Then, if these companies continue to perform poorly, government will tax them? What is there to tax at that point? I am not buying this BS. No one in Congress is looking out for us taxpayers.

    • wodiej

      We need to let these companies sink or swim. There are plenty of financial institutions that are solid and stable. Lending may freeze up a bit but only for a short time. Lowering the corporate tax rate would be a good start. And the $700 billion-anyone over 18 who works and pays taxes get $100k each after tax. Think this wouldn’t stimulate the economy? People would pay off bills. This would give the banks more lending credit, people would have extra money to purchase new cars, home improvements, vacations, education needs, clothing, and all kinds of other things. This demand would boost automakers and various other manufacturing and tourism. This bail out is just rewarding bad behavior. NO, NO, NO-bail out the taxpayer.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        your calculaor is outta wack. 800 billion divided among 150 million workers is only about 5 thousand each.

        Not small potatos, but nowhere near your $100k.

  • nycdave

    This is all Mccain’s fault for not opening his mouth in the debate and taking a stand on this bill. Mccain wanted to play Mr. Nice guy and now he got screwed.

    JOhn Mccain is to blame for the pathetic campaign that he ran. I thought nobody would be able to run a worst campaign than Rudy, I gues I was wrong.

    SHAME ON YOU MCCAIN. YOU LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DOWN.

    • wodiej

      and where did you come up w this assessment, are you a political analyst??

    • Freedom Is Threatened by NObama

      What?
      McCain is the one who PREVENTED the out and out rape of the taxpayer.
      Barky started a fight at the WH meeting, then left town.
      What is wrong with you?

      • I have a bracelet too!

        RIGHT that’s why Barky didn’t want to be back in DC he knew he’d be exposed…

        WHY OH WHY DIDN’T MCCAIN EXPOSE HIM AT THE DEBATES ON HIS ACORN PORK?

        • sowsear

          Maybe he’s saving something for Palin and for him next time.(hopefully)

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    to report voter fraud in your state.

    voterfraud@foxnews.com

  • spatch

    Why is McCain not jumping on ACORN. The evidence is overwhelming how corrupt they are and OBAMA used that corrupt organization to get where his is.

    “I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.” — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, Nov. 2007 …

  • benny

    This new ad is hilarious……really hits obama.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-K7JwwV0U

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      The first part of that ad was being played in the Boston area by a radio host Michelle McFee…barry stutters and stumbles and makes all kinds of excuses throughout the speech…..just the first part of that played in full would make a great ad…..he’s an idiot ..without his teleprompter his “words just words” are stupid.

    • Kal

      This is terrific!

      PUMA!!

    • Firefly

      Ha ha! The only thing 0bama has succeeded in running is his mouth – and he hasn’t done such a great job at that (or something like that) – and then he proves it!

  • kavala007

    The real crisis we are facing is the lack of trust in the system. No one, including me, believes anything the MSM or the Democrats say or do. The MSM, including the New York Times and the Washington Post skew the news towards the selected one and it is all favorable. If they can trash Governor Palin, or the Republicans, they will do so. The Democrat’s sham of a convention and their selection of their choice has led to the DNC and Democrat Congressional “leaders” no longer having any resemblance of any credibility. They turn a deaf ear to their 9% approval rating and plunge on ahead as if everything was “business as usual”. Why would any sane person believe anything they say? The bailout will not stabilize the financial system unless people trust that it will work.

    If Democrats add pork and money winds up being given to the ACORN group that helped create the problem and helped destabilize the system, the bailout will not work. Saying that McCain had no part it a bill is just more of the same nonsense they have been promoting for some time and increases the lack of trust. No amount of posturing on Nancy Pelosi’s or the selected one is going to change the lack of trust.

    The poll swings are not even believable. 122 million people voted in the last action. To take a poll of some 1000 to 5000 people and say what the country is thinking is a bit bizarre.

    • newengland

      Funny! All the polls show that Obama is more trusted than McCain.

      But that’s NQ for you — always making things up.

      • benny

        yep, same with gore and kerry. and its sad how they ended up. lol

        • wodiej

          haha, no shit…Zogby has correctly predicted the last 4 elections…this one is McCain by a landslide. pod bots are in denial….

      • Ferd McBerfle

        And if a poll said 90% of respondents thought crap was good food, you’d buy into that, too. You’re no Benjamin Disraeli. Polls are not facts, Dudley.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      “The poll swings are not even believable. 122 million people voted in the last action. To take a poll of some 1000 to 5000 people and say what the country is thinking is a bit bizarre.”

      I have to wonder what’s up when there’s a 6-8 point jump in one day. Are people really THAT fickle? Makes no sense to me, really.

  • ford

    I agree…the MSM are as guilty as Bush in the Obama spectacle and the bailout…they are playing politics all the way…no accountability..only culture war.

    The Mac attack by davenyc is a little too much..Mac was very aggressive and the MSM said as much(too aggressive and mean) …he will get to ACORN, but there was so much to cover on foreign relations,and his millions naive thoughts there…

    the position on the bailout was not in stone yet, and the MSM depicts Mac as a loose cannon when he gets too combative.

    I think he will address all this stuff..I mean Lindsay Graham , one of the 3 amigos, is very interested in ACORN.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      From “We are all Americans” to “I’m giving free stuff to the Middle Class”, “Down with Rich People”.

      What, nothing for the poor and lower class?

      Obama has raised his colors.

      We at NQ all knew he was a Pandering Pirate, but now everyone can see it.

      John McCain does not mention “Classes”, because he is for “ALL AMERICANS”.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    I have been emailing a blizzard and urging others to do likewise. NO ACORN, NO EARMARKS, NO CHRISTMAS ORNAMENTS.

    My inbox has a lot more hate mail than usual. But, most people are seeing the light.

    NOBAMA!

  • nycdave

    ADS alone are not going to do the job( the media will always spin them). If it doesn’t come out of Mccain’s mouth while 40,000,000 people are watching then it is meaningless. He had his chance in the debate to lay all the cards on the table and he fucked up.

    If Palin bombs then it won’t matter what happens in the last 2 debates this thing will be over. he needed to let the truth be told before Palin had a chance to debate. Now his only hope is on the shoulders of the Gov from Alaska. This is a terribly run campaign. It’s embarrassing if you ask me.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      If Palin bombs

      A Troll and his dreams.

      Maybe you have been away for the past month. Palin is not “bombing”. She is more popular thn O’Barry.

      Watch for Palin to be relentless in her attack on O’barry’s Earmarks, pork, contributions from wall street, Fannie, Freddie. And she will wax poetic McCains Maverick fight for campaign spending, earmarks, and pork spending.

      At the end of the night, people will wonder if Imbibin even showed up.

    • jrterrier

      i agree that mccain missed a golden opportunity to lay blame on obama and dodd and frank for freddie/fannie. but there is supposed to be a debate on the economy so maybe he can say it then.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        even though the economy was foremost on everyone’s mind, the debate was supposed to be about foreign policy. Through this crisis, they took away the debate that would have been and changed it to a debate that should have come later.
        This debate should have focused on Foreign Policy just like it was supposed to. By allowing the economy to take center stage, they altered the basic rules of the presidential debates and it caused people’s fear to not be able to decipher the outcome. During the debate on the economy, they need to dedicate the same amount of time to foreign policy that they allowed the economy to take up during this debate.
        Everyone knows obi has NO FOREIGN POLICY and the crisis was actually a blessing for him, and for him alone.

    • tnp

      I agree that this has been a terribly run campaign by McCain. His choice of Palin, in particular, was terrible. He should have picked someone who had a greater understanding of the economy – someone like Romney. I think it is too late now. McCain is not fighting back and will fall further and further behind in the polls – particularly after Palin’s debate. He has lost all momentum now and I don’t think he can regain it. I read elsewhere that McCain is just losing energy and becoming another Bob Dole.

      • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

        But I wouldn’t have voted for him if he chose Romney, and I know a few others who feel the same.

        McCain will win. He did great at the debate. When push comes to shove, the majority of voters will not vote for Obama. He’s too inexperienced, too far to the left, and too many bridges were burned with Hillary supporters.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      It’s been my observation that the only people going on about how “stupid” and “horrible” Palin is are the Obamabots. This is not reflected in the polls on her whatsoever.

  • Concerned Citizen

    Obama is talking about the Home Owners Loan Corporation, and he mangled an op-ed by HRC from last Thursday. Stealing other people’s ideas and mangling them again.

    Gaffe City:
    http://corner.nationalreview.com/

  • MMI

    Here is a link to the current version of the bailout plan.

    http://porkbusters.org/index.php/bailout-bill

  • jrterrier

    i’m not sure this is very helpful to john mccain. the american people oppose this bail out 100 to 1. if mccain had opposed it, the polls would instantly change and he would be ahead by 20 points.

    • IndianaDem

      Yeah, but McCain opposition might not have played so well with the voters if an economic disaster followed a few days later.

      I think the American people are registering opposition to the bailout because they rightfully hate the situation that required it. I believe it’s needed, but when my congressman sent me an e-mail survey I responded that I opposed it.

      They’re getting the important message that Americans are very angry, and believe they screwed up big-time.

  • nycdave

    ZOGBY HAS OBAMA LEADING 47% TO 45% TOO CLOSE TO CALL HE SAYS.

    He said Obama narrowly won the debate. THis is truly unbelievable. How can anyone honestly beieve he won that debate. Mccain didn’t knock him out but he sure as hell didn;t lose it.

    • newengland

      People didn’t like McCain’s nastiness and they agree with Obama’s issue positions.

      BTW, Obama won the debate in EVERY poll conducted.

      • Ferd McBerfle

        Polls are to facts as your post is to rational thought. Shut up, half-pint.

      • Linda

        Now THAT’s FUNNY.

        I guess if you drink the kool aid, you can say anything, however ridiculous.

        …funny….Obama, “No No…let me, John, John. John, Well John”

        lie, smart ass comments, interrupt nonstop and not even have the balls to call Senator McCain by his title. Oh wait …and there is the “your president”.

        …people didn’t catch on yet that Obama doesn’t think of himself as a US citizen that he doesn’t think Bush is his president too?

        here, have another drink,

        http://flickr.com/photos/7355449@N04/2896350654/

      • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

        Not true – Greta ran a poll on her blog and McCain creamed Obama something like 80 to 20%

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    I’m glad ACORN is out. It’s been a terrible feeling not trusting in our government. I don’t want to feel like they don’t know what they are doing OR like they are out to screw us. It’s terrible.

  • No Way, No How, NoBama

    Pelosi is going to be live on FOX. Quick, everybody, warm up your TIVO’S!

    Just thought of something…if Pelosi’s bunch wrote the initial legislation, and Obama spoke at the White House about the legislation on Thursday…then wouldn’t his position already have been set in stone?

    I wish that someone had smuggled their blackberry into the room, I’ll bet that meeting was interesting!

  • Calpurnia

    The recent polls are demoralizing, but I am aware that many pollsters are weighting to an unrealistic extent in favor of Dems.

    So — Question: Does anyone “on the ground” in any Battleground states have a “feel” for which way Independents and also the Joe Sixpacks will vote? Especially in states ike PA OH VA CO etc?

    I live in a red state, so I can’t tell. Today I called some elderly Western PA very loyal lifelong blue collar Democrat relatives to see how they are voting this year. SHOCK: they were surprisingly cryptic and evasive! Would not tell me when I asked “How are you voting this year? How is your community voting, given that most are Dems?” Normally, they would have told me the Dem ticket, without batting an eye. Today, they all told me that they “hadn’t decided yet” and were “going to decide when they got to the polls:. Hmmm. That is fishy to me. They’ve never acted that way before… what’s up with that? Are they undecided because they don’t want to admit that they aren’t voting for the Dem ticket this time?

    I would love to hear what any one thinks about this matter — what do you think?

    • http://www.partizane.com NewHampster

      Up here in the cold dark north, ours have always been more repub leaning so I think in the end the state will go McCain but not if the Obama truth squads have a say.

      The truth squad in MS Typical Slime Obama Practices

    • tnp

      McCain is increasing his unfavorable ratings among Independents (according to the latest Hotline tracking poll) while Obama is picking up support from Independents. Obama now leads McCain among Independents by a 52-29% margin. Last week McCain had a 40-39% lead.

      • Ferd McBerfle

        Wild swings like that indicate faulty polling processes. I don’t buy that junk.

    • Kato

      I think they’ve probably decided against voting for BO, but don’t want to admit it. I also think there are many, many people like this. As much as technology and the ability to spread/learn information has improved, I’d bet this election’s polls will be some of the worst in years. The polls would still probably be counting the folks you’re talking about as voting for the Dems, but they won’t…there’s too much at stake to put junior in office.

    • Shiloh

      I’m in Ohio and there is no doubt that Ohio goes McCain by a much larger margin than in 04. In fact, I think the polls are so skewed right now that Obama will lose in any state where he doesn’t have a 10 point lead right now. All the states that are now being called swing states will go to McCain, wait and see.

    • ritamary

      A small group of elderly Democratic ladies in my apartment complex do not like Obama at all. They never vote Republican and were shocked when I said I am voting for McCain. In 2006 I volunteered for the Democratic congressional candidate. One of them is now planning to vote for McCain because her daughter is voting for McCain.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      I just had a friend of many years stop speaking to me because I don’t support Obama. People are afraid to speak up about it.

  • Anonymus
    • PKJAYNE

      Obama shouldn’t be blamed for what Ayers did when the candidate was 8 years old, as Obama says. By the time the two met, Ayers was a University of Illinois professor in Chicago, deeply involved in education reform, a topic of interest to Obama.

      And, certainly, voters should care less about the past than we should about how the next president plans to fix America’s shamefully broken education system, the economy, international relations and, you know the rest.

      I think as a voter you should be concerned about the past. Barry’s past associations are telling.

      • McHope

        Obama wants no focus on his past, besides one issue.

        When it comes to National Security, of course. All Obama wants to focus on there is his magnificent staged speech against the war in what 2003?

        As McCain said the next president won’t be dealing with whether or not we went into Iraq but how do we proceed from here.

        All other words were not what he meant and all other people were not who he knew.

        • Docelder

          Well before he gets credit for ” right” about Iraq. We should know why he was against invading Iraq in the first place. Saddam was snubbing the U.N. and everybody believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction… including Saddam’s own generals. So, why was he against the war in Iraq exactly? Being right for the wrong reasons is nothing to brag about… it’s just “dumb luck”.

  • Sally

    You just don’t realize it…but it has alway been this way. Dems for Big business and Repubs for the mid to small business.

    Always! Read: “Liberal Fascism” and what you jaw drop and get stuck!

    The media has own info for so long that you have been brainwashed and incapable of putting the pieces together.

    The True Fascism started with Pres. Wilson in 1912….(stopped a little with Clinton) and then started again.

    Read it and weep!….I sure have and still do…I am embarassed I spent 30 years as a braindead liberal….9-11 changed me instantly (with the help of a smart husband)

  • cruz

    what does nancy pelosi’s husband say when they go to bed at night? paper or plastic.

  • http://deleted YES HRC

    A friend forwarded this:

    To my fellow Americans…….

    I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

    Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

    To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

    Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

    So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.

    My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
    We Deserve It Dividend.

    Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
    So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

    Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
    That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

    But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

    What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
    Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
    Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
    Put away money for college – it’ll be there
    Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
    Buy a new car – create jobs
    Invest in the market – capital drives growth
    Pay for your par ent’s medical insurance – health care improves
    Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

    Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

    If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do20it…instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 (“vote buy”) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

    If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

    As for AIG – liquidate it. Sell off its parts.
    Let American General go back to being American General.
    Sell off the real estate.
    Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

    Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

    Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

    But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

    How do you spell Economic Boom?

    I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

    And remember, this plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
    instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

    Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

    ******** I like it.

    • No Way, No How, NoBama

      If ONLY! lol
      Can I send a few bucks to ACORN?

  • No Way, No How, NoBama

    Anyone know when Pelosi’s term is up? She ranks right up there with Donna for me.

    • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

      Cindy Sheehan is running against her now

      • No Way, No How, NoBama

        Thanks for the info! Does she have a chance? Does she need contributions? I’ll give her the 20% I had earmarked for ACORN.

        • Zeke

          Keep your eye on Dana Walsh, too. She’s running as a Rep and will try to ride along in Sarah’s wake. She might be the way to go if Sheehan, someone who has positioned herself as far left as Barry, is able to split up the Dem vote. I see Sheehan as a poor person’s Perot effect. She is enough of an irritant to weaken Pelosi… I believe the good people of SF are dumb enough and Left enough to get in a pissing contest over this. A good turnout by the Reps or just a nice windy, rainy SF November day could be enough.
          I will not forget the lies, the anti-American hate filled rhetoric nor will I forget who has permitted the Mortgage crisis. We must all remember that the party has been co-opted by liars, cheats and intimidating bastards who DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT WE DO!
          Unless we fully commit to reducing these asshats down to an inconsequential number, we will lose our country.
          If it gets too hard to remember that, write it on your bathroom mirror.
          We win completely or we lose forever…

  • Sally

    I have a feeling that mccain purposely didn’t bring up all of Obamas and Dem ties to theis Fiscal Catastrophe because it would derail the markets and derail any negotiations quickly….

    Because mccain is patriotic he prefered to hurt his own ratings rather than hurt the country

    …UK newspaper estimates that the Dow would lose 2/3 of its value if a plan is not negotiated by Monday morning…..that a good reason no?

    I hope that in a week Mccain Rip them all to pieces….I pray ever day for it!

  • Sally

    Do you all remember who Barney Franks is:

    he’s the pedophile that actually HAD gay sex with his young interns in the 80′s and was totally protected by the Dems…unlike the recent Republican that go thrown out for writing about it!

    The media disgusts me….I want to puke every day now! Help!

    • Perry Logan

      This is right-wing disinformation about Barney Frank.

      • Sally

        Absolutely NOT!!!!! You haven’t even checked so how do you know it is disinformation….look it up you brown-shirt

        It is absolutely true…100%

        • Zeke

          Here’s how this works, Sally…

          You are right…
          Perry is a douche…

          regards

        • Family Values

          What can I say? The facts can always come back and bite you.

          http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

          • No Way, No How, NoBama

            Get with the times. The “sky is falling”, Pelosi is lying her A$$ off, the problem children that pushed Fannie/Freddie are known and you’re trying to bring up Ted Bundy? OMG.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        Unfortunately, it is true. But, Barney had his indiscretions before they were un-PC.

        The Repubs have no monoply on unsavory behavior. It happens in both parties.

        Just like a cocktail party some will get drunk, but with power, not alcohol.

        Some know how to limit themselves, McCain, and some get piss faced drunk for more after just walking through the door, Obama.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Perry, link in support of this?

        My recollecton is closer to what Sally says.

        • Dee

          Barney was not involved with pages or minors. He had a live-in boyfriend of questionable character.

          Cong. Stubbs (in 1983) was caught having relations with a page – a 17 year old. He was censured by the House. If I recall correctly he was subsequently re-elected to his seat several times.

          I think Sally has conflated these two congressman. How handy…

  • jrterrier

    i think it’s very interesting that mccain has yet to endorse the deal? has anyone seen a statement from his campaign?

  • Marble

    “A Marxist and a Gaffer vs. a WAR Hero and a Lady Barracudo”

    The Lefty Loons, all the Democrats and supposedly Media are scared of Sarah and her way of life.

    I hope they keep demeaning her.
    It helps us.

  • nycdave
  • Shiloh

    A post on up says the polls are demoralizing. Duh! Don’t you all get it? They are supposed to be demoralizing! These are media polls – did you think they wouldn’t be biased? There is 5-9 points of built in bias for Obama. That will diminish in the last 2 weeks as polls begin to be concerned about their reputation on accuracy, but until then they are in the tank for Obama. Zogby has been the most accurate the last four elections in the final polls, and they have Obama up less than 2 points. I think in truth McCain is up at least 5, and will win by 10.

  • navyvet48

    Take a look at this link. More video and damning too!
    My vote for McCain/Palin is definitely a protest but one I can live with today! I simply can’t let the crookedest politician to ever run for president to take over our White House! Not just that but I certainly don’t want my kids to go through some indoctrination camp proposed by the angriest woman I have ever seen….Obama’s wife…and if one more person says she is gorgeous I will vomit….into my monitor! Don’t anyone ever feel sorry for that Elizabeth dame from The View….she toed The View line on Huckabee’s new show on Fox. She basically lied and refuted anything that Huckabee asked her! UGH!

    http://renaissancelady48.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/more-on-voter-fraud-obama-and-acorn/

  • http://none Jessie Britton

    Do not panic. The polls are all over the board and the media is only touting the worst. The worst being the Gallup poll which has Obama up by 8 points, but this was with registered voters and not likely voters and weighted based on the voter registration, which is more Democratic. Zogby has one out dated 9/27/08, including 2,103 (good number of voters) nationwide that carries a margin of error of +/- 2.2 percentage points. The result were 47.1 % for Obama and 45.9 for McCain. This is well within the margin of error. Fox has a national poll out at 45 to 39 %, which is a spread of 6 points. Note the 39, which leave 16% to undecided and or third party. Watch the battleground states, that’s where it is going to be won or lost! Then do not forget the old Bradley and Wilder effect, which can be from 3 to 6 %, but on a turn could go as high as 6 to 12 percent.

  • Sally

    You just don’t realize it…but it has alway been this way. Fascist sophisticated and progressive Dems for Big business/patronizing Government versus the unsophisticated Republican for mid to small business/weak Goverment.

    The Dems have always started large problems (starting with WW1)so they have reason/opportunity to oppress us with socialist dogma. Conservative today hate Bush because he is a Trojan horse progressive/socialist. Everything he has done has been in the style of JFK….remember “Bay of Pigs” or Vietnam?

    Always been this way–like it or not! Please Read: “Liberal Fascism” and watch your jaw drop….and get stuck!

    The media has owned the information and hi-tech industry for so long that you have been brainwashed and incapable of putting the pieces together.

    The True Fascism started with Pres. Wilson in 1912….(stopped a little with Clinton) and then started again.

    Read it and weep!….I sure have and still do…I am embarassed I spent 30 years as a braindead liberal….9-11 changed me instantly (with the help of this book and a smart husband)

    Once you wake up to their totalitarian tendencies its impossible to pretend they don’t exist. They are specialists at deflecting and projecting their attitudes and racist/fascist views on others…especially conservatives (when all they want is to be left alone)…What experts.

    Intruigingly Democrats always have the charletan field of pop-psychology on their side….diagnosisng all non-radical progressives either pre-fascistic personalities or as having ‘anger issues” etc…

    I swear, once you read this book its like those computerized/digital optical illision pictures…ie where the invisible image pops out at you and stuns you.

    ———————————————————————————————————-I have a feeling that mccain purposely didn’t bring up all of Obamas and Dem ties to theis Fiscal Catastrophe because it would derail the markets and derail any negotiations quickly….

    Because mccain is patriotic he prefered to hurt his own ratings rather than hurt the country

    …UK newspaper estimates that the Dow would lose 2/3 of its value if a plan is not negotiated by Monday morning…..that’s a good reason, for Mccain to desist, no?

    I hope that in a week Mccain Rip them all to pieces….I pray every day for it!
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Do you all remember who Barney Franks is:

    he’s the pedophile that actually HAD gay sex with his young interns in the 80’s and was totally protected by the Dems…unlike the recent Republican that go thrown out for writing about it!

    The media disgusts me….I want to puke every day now! Help!

    • Perry Logan

      Forgive me, Sally, but if you feel this way, you should go to some right-wing site. There are a zillion of them around.

      PUMA is a Democratic group, created to save the Democratic Party from corruption. Right-wing tirades and smears against Barney Frank have no place here.

      I say this with love–but tirades like yours make it very hard to recommend that people visit NQ. Why should I send sensible people here to hear the usual wingnut stuff?

      • Sally

        I see….so your dogma and feelings are more important that the truth…..that the party is full of liar, crooks, fickle and hateful people.

        Believe it or not you numb nut, I am a true liberal that speaks my mind and believes freedom for all and in helping people everyday whereever possible…..don’t patronize me and put me in a box.

        I don’t whine, I take care of my own, my neighbors, our troops and our needy. I do more and give more to people in need than you probable make in a year…..just be cause you thing fuzzy thought doesn’t not make you a “Libaeral”. A “true liberal” is one who is flexible not dogmatic….one who welcomes the truth, values freedom above all, and lives their life to help people…..I hate what today’s liberalism has become…..a dogmatic religion.

      • wodiej

        smears against Barney Frank?? You’re kidding me right? The guy who had sex w his interns? The guy who helped Fannie and Freddie be unregulated so low income, unqualified and illegal aliens could buy homes w no money down, shitty credit and no veriable income-THAT BARNEY FRANK? Views like yours are why Democrats are shit to alot of people. I thought Democrats were for the WORKING people not the “I want what everyone else works for but I don’t want to work for it” people. The Democratic party has become one where people aren’t expected to work for what they want, they feel entitled. The Democratic party doesn’t want to make people be accountable and responsible, just give them what hard working people have just because. Since this attitude keeps them poor I don’t see that strategy working too well.

        BULLSHIT. I could care less if the Democratic party is rebuilt after they way they trashed Hillary Clinton they can GO FUCK THEMSELVES.

        • baby-puppy

          Here here. Agree with everything you said. Truth to power!

        • mimi

          wodiej,

          My sentiments exactly.

      • TeakWoodKite

        PUMA is a Democratic group.

        Since when?

        • Garfield

          I believe PUMA started with Democrats who realized how corrupt the primary was and how the leftist and international corporations were taking over the Party, and most importantly, supported Hillary.

          PUMA now includes many Independents.

      • Zorro Astor

        I was at least quickly look up the Frank story at Wikipedia. And this part seems to ring true.

        Wikipedia: Barney Frank Reprimand

    • Dee

      You are wrong Sally – Frank is a normal healthy homosexual. He was not playing around with pages.

      Cong. Stubbs was the pedophile playing around with the pages – he was censured by the House and not protected. The Dems handled it correctly. The Repubs did not handle Foley correctly or that other guy – I think he was a congressman from Arizona.

  • Sally

    You just don’t realize it…but it has alway been this way. Fascist sophisticated and progressive Dems for Big business/patronizing Government versus the unsophisticated Republican for mid to small business/weak Goverment. The Dems always start large problems so they have reason/opportunity to oppress us with socialist dogma. Conservative today hate Bush because he is a Trojan horse progressive/socialist. Everything he has done has been in the style of JFK….remember “Bay of Pigs” or Vietnam?

    Always been this way–like it or not! Please Read: “Liberal Fascism” and watch your jaw drop….and get stuck!

    The media has owned the information and hi-tech industry for so long that you have been brainwashed and incapable of putting the pieces together.

    The True Fascism started with Pres. Wilson in 1912….(stopped a little with Clinton) and then started again.

    Read it and weep!….I sure have and still do…I am embarassed I spent 30 years as a braindead liberal….9-11 changed me instantly (with the help of a smart husband)

    Once you wake up to their totalitarian tendencies its impossible to pretend they don’t exist. They are specialists at deflecting and projecting their attitudes and racist/fascist views on others….experts.

    —————————————-
    —————————————-
    I have a feeling that mccain purposely didn’t bring up all of Obamas and Dem ties to theis Fiscal Catastrophe because it would derail the markets and derail any negotiations quickly….

    Because mccain is patriotic he prefered to hurt his own ratings rather than hurt the country

    …UK newspaper estimates that the Dow would lose 2/3 of its value if a plan is not negotiated by Monday morning…..that’s a good reason, for Mccain to desist, no?

    I hope that in a week Mccain Rip them all to pieces….I pray every day for it!
    ___________________________________
    ___________________________________

    Do you all remember who Barney Franks is:

    he’s the pedophile that actually HAD gay sex with his young interns in the 80’s and was totally protected by the Dems…unlike the recent Republican that go thrown out for writing about it!

    The media disgusts me….I want to puke every day now! Help!

    • Talk2ThePaw

      Not to forget that Barney Franks live in partner was running a gay prostitution ring out of Franks home!! And it was quieted down asap with no scares for Franks just advancement in the DNC and committees.

      • wodiej

        thanks for posting…more talking points for me.

  • mrduffin

    nycdave….

    It does not matter what obama says anymore. Everyone knows he is a liar and anti-Amercian so now the people who are supporting him have chosen to ignore these facts. If you cared about America then you would vote for MCain/Palin…..period! obama is bad news and the only hope we have is McCain no matter how bad you think he has run his campaign. Some things are more important than a well run campaign.

    • Zorro Astor

      Here’s a good one. If you don’t agree with Obama you are a racist; McCain’s people could turn this to ‘if you support Obama you are a traitor’. ;)

  • No Way, No How, NoBama

    Are you guys watching Pelosi lie her a@@ off?

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Chockablock “Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?” Opampers

      Nancy “(fuck the) will of the people” Pelosi lost me when she interfered with the primary process.

  • Babs

    CNN’s Schneider reporting their polls yesterday that had Obama winning every part of the debate, including foreign policy, then Dana Bash came on to “remind” him that the majority of those voting in the polls were Democrats! He didn’t look too happy when she said that, and she probably got a good reaming out when the cameras were off, but this is the “new” way of reporting polls, and I don’t trust any of them. The media bias in this election is criminal, no other word for it.

    • wodiej

      I never put much stock in polls anyway. Especially after it was discovered that 80% of MSNBC’s debate poll was taken by foreigners. Please. You know w the media being so in the tank for Obama, almost all of these fucking polls are going to show Ofraudma in the lead. Glad she called out Magoo even if she got raked over the coals a bit.

      Let the Obama camp have a false sense of winning most of the country are not kool aid drinkers. And even though some parents are voting for Obama simply because their little cheeto eaters are, most people have alot more sense than that. They saw the debate w their own eyse and MCCAIN WON WITHOUT QUESTION.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I loved the part where Ms. Pelositysauraus stated that the expenditures would be posted on the internet within 48 hours, as if this sort of openess was asked for by her and Reidasaurus and not what the Repubs and especially McCain wanted from the get go.

  • IronMan

    Hmmm…no joint news conference on the bailout Bill? Pelosi sounds like she is playing politics already with her soundbytes stroknig Harry Reid’s ego.

    The proposed Bill is now on the internet for everyone to read? We need to check it out.

    Reid just contradicted himself, saying the first “plan” was a non-starter.

    Something tells me the Democrats are going to be pushing this themselves. Republican response/news conference should be coming up next.

    For some reason, Frank, Pelosi, and Reid sure do not look very happy. What’s going on?

    • wodiej

      I noticed she has Chris “I am the biggest recepient of Fannie Mae lobbyist money” up there w her. And there was dipshit Reid. Oh, and let’s not forget Barney “I want to give everyone a home even if they have no money, no veriable income, no job, no legal right to be in this country and shitty credit” Frank. 4 pinheads.

      • No Way, No How, NoBama

        In turn, what favors did these folks get back from Fred & Fannie?

      • baby-puppy

        I saw an ad for mortgages that said – ‘no SSN required’!

    • Zorro Astor

      Reid is indescribably BIZARRE.

  • Alice Paul WPB

    I cant stand to watch these guys anymore!

  • IronMan

    Hmmm…reading between the lines of the Pelosi, et al., presser now. It sure sounds to me like the Republicans will be submitting and offering up their own Bill. If so, I think that is a great idea.

  • SJ

    Some sites are claiming the money for Acorn is still in the package it is just reworded differently, can anyone verify if this is really so?

    • Zorro Astor

      I’ve heard that too. I can’t find it yet.

  • IronMan

    I HOPE the Republicans come up with their own version, one that will not be such a boondoggle giveaway of taxpayer money to Wall Street.

  • Zorro Astor

    The story’s spreading like wildfire across the globe. And most of them are saying it’s a brilliant package. I suspect not a one of those fucktards has even bothered reading it.

    What a shallow stupid world we live in.

    (I’m not saying it’s not a good package – I’m just saying the journalism is despicable. Thanks.)

  • IronMan

    Daniel Gross of newsweek said it best just now about the presser just held by Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and Dodd:

    “Harry Reid looked liek he was accepting the award for best actor in a massive bailout.”

    LOL!

    It was all I and me me me with that political charade.

    The presser was weird. They all looked like someone had just taken their lunch money. ;)

    FACT: The majority of Americans are NOT in favor for this massive boondoggle bailout of Wall Street.

  • georgia

    anyone got the website to read the bill?

  • No Way, No How, NoBama

    Lindsay Graham just named ACORN. LOL
    Is this a repeat?

  • georgia

    Any one listening to Kerry………. MAKES ME SICK! Grrrrrrrrrr can’t anyone put the country first.

    • Zorro Astor

      Some people can; he can’t.

  • Forget the Polls

    Who needs the polls when we’ve got the betting odds?

    Gamblers think Obama is going to win. With Sportsbook, a successful $165 bet made today on an Obama win would gain you only $100. A successful $100 bet on a McCain win would gain you $165.

    The other online wagering services also have Obama in the lead.

    http://www.1800-sports.com/presidential-betting-odds.shtml

    Then there’s the Halloween mask survey…

    • Ferd McBerfle

      Someone is going to end up in cement overshoes when Oblockhead loses.

    • Perry Logan

      Have the groundhogs weighted in?

  • MMI

    They cannot rush this thing through. Just on first reading of the first 20 pages, it is full of vague language and loopholes. I want intelligent economists to review this and give their opinions to Congress about this plan and I want them to give their opinion about what government should or should not do. Paid politicians like Dodd and Frank who did not know enough or cared enough to recognize the problems at Fannie and Freddie are now going to save this nation from financial disaster? BS.

    • Zorro Astor

      Not just economists – legal eagles.

      • No Way, No How, NoBama

        Why can’t they write a short bill, give a small load to soothe the jumpy markets, and keep working. Tues & Wed are high holidays so they’ll have to stop working by sundown tomorrow.

        I think this is too important to be rushed.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Thanks… MMI, neat site.

  • ConcernedCitizenX

    Here’s an idea whose time may have come although it would take some thought about how to pursue:

    Use the RICO Act on ACORN.

    • Zorro Astor

      Use the RICO Act on ACORN.

      I was going to suggest that! ;)

  • Truudy

    What does Hillary have to say about all of this.

  • sowsear

    See this on Soros from PUMApak blog
    YES! REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS 595 diva2 on 09.28.08 at 7:28 pm IMPORTANT READING
    THIS IS the PART I SHOULD HAVE SENT ABOUT SOROS–
    (MY last one)

    Go to the first paragraph break and you WILL get the connection between SOROS and NOBO on their ideas.
    SORRY It’s long but so IMOP so important.

    George Soros is one of the most powerful men on earth. A New York hedge fund manager, he has amassed a personal fortune estimated at about $7.2 billion. His management company controls billions more in investor assets. Since 1979, his foundation network — whose flagship is the Open Society Institute (OSI) — has dispensed an estimated $5 billion to a multitude of organizations whose objectives are consistent with those of Soros. (The President of OSI and the Soros Foundation Network is Aryeh Neier, who, as Director of the socialist League for Industrial Democracy, personally created the radical group Students for a Democratic Society in 1959.) With assets of $859 million as of 2005, OSI alone donates scores of millions of dollars annually to these various groups, whose major agendas can be summarized as follows:
    promoting the view that America is institutionally an oppressive nation

    promoting the election of leftist political candidates throughout the United States
    opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government, particularly the Patriot Act
    depicting American military actions as unjust, unwarranted, and immoral
    promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws
    promoting a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs funded by ever-escalating taxes
    promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens
    defending suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters
    financing the recruitment and training of future activist leaders of the political Left
    advocating America’s unilateral disarmament and/or a steep reduction in its military spending
    opposing the death penalty in all circumstances
    promoting socialized medicine in the United States
    promoting the tenets of radical environmentalism, whose ultimate goal, as writer Michael Berliner has explained, is “not clean air and clean water, [but] rather … the demolition of technological/industrial civilization”
    bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations
    promoting racial and ethnic preferences in academia and the business world alike

    America Coming Together
    America Votes
    Center for American Progress
    Joint Victory Campaign 2004
    Media Fund
    MoveOn.org
    Thunder Road Group
    These organizations, along with the many leftist groups with which they collaborate, have played a major role in helping Soros advance his political and social agendas.

    According to Richard Poe, co-author (with David Horowitz) of the 2006 book The Shadow Party:

    “The Shadow Party is the real power driving the Democrat machine. It is a network of radicals dedicated to transforming our constitutional republic into a socialist hive. The leader of these radicals is … George Soros. He has essentially privatized the Democratic Party, bringing it under his personal control. The Shadow Party is the instrument through which he exerts that control. … It works by siphoning off hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions that would have gone to the Democratic Party in normal times, and putting those contributions at the personal disposal of Mr. Soros. He then uses that money to buy influence and loyalty where he sees fit. In 2003, Soros set up a network of privately-owned groups which acts as a shadow or mirror image of the Party. It performs all the functions we would normally expect the real Democratic Party to perform, such as shaping the Party platform, fielding candidates, running campaigns, and so forth. However, it performs these functions under the private supervision of Mr. Soros and his associates. The Shadow Party derives its power from its ability to raise huge sums of money. By controlling the Democrat purse strings, the Shadow Party can make or break any Democrat candidate by deciding whether or not to fund him. During the 2004 election cycle, the Shadow Party raised more than $300 million for Democrat candidates, prompting one of its operatives, MoveOn PAC director Eli Pariser, to declare, ‘Now it’s our party. We bought it, we own it…’”

    Soros in 2004 spent some $26 million trying, unsuccessfully, to defeat President Bush’s reelection bid, a task Soros called “the central focus of my life” and “a matter of life and death.” He has likened Republicans generally, and the Bush administration in particular, to “the Nazi and communist regimes” in the sense that they are “all engaged in the politics of fear.” “Indeed,” he wrote in 2006, “the Bush administration has been able to improve on the techniques used by the Nazi and Communist propaganda machines by drawing on the innovations of the advertising and marketing industries.” Soros elaborated on this theme at the January 2007 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where he told reporters: “America needs to . . . go through a certain de-Nazification process.”

    In December of 2006, Soros met with Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama in his (Soros’) New York office. Soros had previously hosted a fund-raiser for Obama during the latter’s 2004 campaign for the Senate. On January 16, 2007, Obama announced the creation of a presidential exploratory committee, and within hours Soros sent the senator a contribution of $2,100, the maximum amount allowable under campaign finance laws. Later that week the New York Daily News reported that Soros would back Obama over Senator Hillary Clinton, whom he had supported in the past. Soros’ announcement was seen as a repudiation of Clinton’s presidential aspirations, though Soros said he would support the New York senator were she to win the Democratic nomination. Organizations Funded Directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute
    By Discover The Networks

    NOTE: This is only a part of the article that I posted.
    December 2007

    “Secondary” or “Indirect” Affiliates of the George Soros Network
    By Discover The Networks
    July 2007

    • Sally

      Oh isn’t that just great….I’m tired and scared. But I know about all this.

      This is part of a bigger scheme that has been going on since 1900s……progressives loved the notions of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin….they loved em and thought of these tyrant as enlightened expirementive geniuses….all you gotta do is read the NYT, New Yorker etc from the period and you’ll see that just like today, the media elite and the academics along with the Dems especially were enamoured with Fascism, Communisms etc. They loved how Avant garde, scientific and brave these tyrant were to openly dispise “individualism”, “democracy” etc…..These tyrant all admired President Wilson as he was the first “true” fascist…..FDR and johnson followed withe their “big deal” and “great societies”

      don’t you get it??….the militaristic, racists, sexist, flag waving, imperialistic and nationalistic, politic that we think is “conservative” was created by Wilson, FDR, and Johnson machines….since it never worked they decided to blame it on the Republicans……the problem is that the Republicans were to dumb or unsophisticated to defend themselves from it…they still don’t know that the fix is on them or how!!!!

      Republican politics was created by and for the middle class unsophisticated but intelligent Farm owner in the North and South…it came out of Jefferson’s vision of how to guarantee/maintain freedom to people–ie the Bill of rights and small state focused government. The Dems was the first party in this country…they were the sophisticates and the Federalists with all kind of grandiose schemes. By the very late 1800s, early 1900s, they started admiring German intellectuals Marx, Engles, Croly, etc….they went head over heals….even the Republican, Teddy Roosevelt left the party to join the Utopians. The problem was that they firmly believed in Utopia, regardless of the immediate human toll it took….scientific experimentation was more importatant that some measely “individual”.
      They all hated the constitution (Wilson was the first president to openly mock it), individualism, democracy, and small/medium ineffecient systems or bbusinesses etc. The loved the notion the Government can be linked to massive Business to control the little people. Wilson was the 1st to establish massive ties with industry to facilitate his totalitarian vision.

      The Republican values are those of the religious (puritan) small to middle class business/farmer folk of the north and the poor protestant and catholics of the south (both either were disgusted with slavery or had no stake in it). These values are grounded in christianity and devotion to total freedom of speech and religion and disdain for unrepresentative central government. After all the republican were the Abolitionist against slavery. the next plan these unsophisticate was to entirely economically integrate the black slave into the respectible society.

      In contrast, the Democrat values of today are in continuum with the history, culture, beliefs(they try desperately to hide) of the Northern Elite Industrialist and the Southern racist former slave holding agrarian ((Dixie Democrats) elite class. At the end of the Civil War these elites came together to develope the new power base of the Democrat Party…their values were quite distant from religious principles: racial superiority (south) and/or manic utopian visions where only they the elite have the ability to improve the lives of the poor by running their lives of the nothern poor (white and black) industrial classes(eg Putnam)using their fortune for the purpose of their Glory. TTheir philosphy was that the poor are incapable of refined behaviour and survival. Their riches were nnot enough for them-they needed glory to flaunt to their peers and all such schemes depended on the maintenance of the poor class while providing for their rudimentary needs (seem familiar?). This had everything to do with domination, and endentured servitude (a form of slavery they were already accustomed to before the Civil War). It was all about centralized power and religious principles in their decisions were always minimal. The were Federalist/centralist….and willingly gave all power to Government they ran. These elites were very sophisticated and had great ties with each other.

      The Dems have distorted our history so badly that we don’t know the difference about “UP” or “Down” let alone the truth! But what is true is that the Conservative is certainly not prone to fascism and racism….and the Democrats certainly were. Up until the time of FDR, democrats didn’t want any power to the freed Blacks–they tried to make their lives as insignificant as possible. FDR caused the Democrat party to part with its racist past, atleast officially but this did little to improve their lot. But all other Democrats values have remained uunchanged eg central government, til this day. Pimp the poor for political gain, regardless of the cost to those being pimped.

      Funny isn’t it because all of you disdain the poor sounther white man of today and call him a racist and a KKK if he is a republican…well this is mostly false. The reason they vote republican is because it is the only party that protects their way of life and culture, including religion. Most of these people are not racist but the adhere fanatically to their freedom and don’t want to be helped or dependent on the freedom usurping Government and they don’t want to be used by it.

      ….look it up…do lots of reading, use you logical mind and please read “Liberal Fascism” to start…..it may save this country and deprogram that victim oriented attitude many liberals have.

      The problem today is that the true Fascist have rewritten your history and your vision of what it mean to be an American.

      So no things haven’t changed…other that the fact that they (the Dems) still want to dominate over you lives and distract you from cherishing the Bill of Right and the Consitution.

      Its us unsophisticate people who are YOUR champions for America and YOUR Freedom. Republican always hated wars as opposed to Dems who got into any war they could find in order to further regulate and restrict your lives.

      Please my fellow American wake up….we conservative love our fellow Dem american as we want to protect you from your destructive ideals…that inevitable can’t work….just as they never have anywhere in the world (stalin, pol pot, hitler, chavez, arifat, mussolini, etc…all collectiveist and totalitarian and through use identitiy politics and marxist utopian “progressive” principles.

      I know capitalism is harch but it still is the most equitalbe, as long a we have our freedom. Stop socialism….it will kill us all….and eventually the whole western world. The kind of socialism they are trying to implememnt only benefit the cliques of elite and their academt pals by delivering to them all you tax money for their own gain. You, the poor man will get nothing but a kick in the teeth when they finished using you…you’re just a mean to an end….yet so many of you thing you want to be part of the regime as an elite….there is only so much room for elites among them.

      BTW, the KKK=dixie democrats, not republican. Eugenics=democrats, fascist ties to Megaindustr=dems, etc.

      Read: “Liberal Fascism” your life depends on your understanding of the forces in play today….its no accident that Obama was chosen by the Dems…..Think about it.

  • MaggiefromMichigan

    So can we do something as a group to make the media do their jobs? One thing would be to turn off our TVs for a day or just watch Fox News channel.

    I bet some creative people out there could come up with a great idea.

    I really believe that most Americans just don’t understand the danger we face. And a large part of it that they’ve come to trust and believe the media.

    The media has really let us down and they need to hear our feelings about this.

  • NYC

    Comment by Woman Voter | 2008-09-28 14:26:51

    Do you know if the Bail Out Bill is posted anywhere in its complete form?

    It is here:

    http://www.cnn.com/

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/09/28/ayo08c04_xml.pdf

  • MaggiefromMichigan

    I hope a 527 does a commercial on this whole ACORN debacle including Obama’s past work with them, the FEC modifications for payments to them, the fact that there were in the Bailout Bill and placed there by the Dems (who deferred to their leader Obama in the White House meeting) and all the voter fraud and embezzlement. And the fact that ACORN was included in the recent bailout bill for homebuyers (that was the $300 billion one). The connection could be that Dems are using taxpayer money to fund an organization which turns around and gets out the vote for them (whether legit or not). Oh and the 527 should make sure and mention that ACORN is an illegal alien advocacy group and they were soliciting people for subprime mortgages (stating no tax returns, no immigration papers). This entire debacle is infuriating.

  • PS

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/700310.html

    ACORN’s Florida coordinator, Brian Kettenring

    Brian’s name is listed on a blog I came across. He had met up with someone at the DNC and mentioned he was on his way back to DC/Acorn headquarters and wanted to see about setting up a “Department of Socialism”. This blogger said that she had just the thing for him, this newly formed group called “U.S. Solidarity Economy Network”.

    I’ve put the website below as I didn’t know anything about them and thought maybe someone had some insight as to what they’re all about.

    http://www.populareconomics.org/ussen/

  • I can see Larry’s wig from my house

    Going down slow

  • Sooner1

    An Anti-Capitalism Agenda
    To understand the nature and extent of Acorn’s radicalism, an excellent place to begin is Sol Stern’s 2003 City Journal article, “ACORN’s Nutty Regime for Cities.” (For a shorter but helpful piece, try Steven Malanga’s “Acorn Squash.”)

    Sol Stern explains that Acorn is the key modern successor of the radical 1960’s “New Left,” with a “1960’s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism” to match. Acorn, says Stern, grew out of “one of the New Left’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization.” In the 1960’s, NWRO launched a campaign of sit-ins and disruptions at welfare offices. The goal was to remove eligibility restrictions, and thus effectively flood welfare rolls with so many clients that the system would burst. The theory, explains Stern, was that an impossibly overburdened welfare system would force “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.” Instead of a socialist utopia, however, we got the culture of dependency and family breakdown that ate away at America’s inner cities � until welfare reform began to turn the tide.
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    I believe that they ( Left) are trying to flood the system until it breaks so that they can force “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.”

    I believe that this is Lord Wingnuts agenda, I might be totally wrong, but if you look who he surrounds himself and what he used to teach when he was with ACORN and the following:

    Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago and worked for an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation, whose modus operandi for the creation of �a more just and democratic society’ is rooted firmly in the Alinsky method.

    it makes sense