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Financial News * Open Thread [Video Update]

The House is debating the “bailout” bill right now on C-Span 1 (you can also watch and/or listen online). You can also watch the House debate live at Fox News. Here’s a copy of the draft of the bill (PDF).

US elections: Barack Obama’s team believes he can win by a landslide (Okay, that’s an OT story, but I thought you needed to see this ASAP — I nearly jumped out of my skin when I saw that headline, mostly over his and his team’s audaciousness. It’s curious too that they leaked this to a UK newspaper. At least I’m guessing they leaked it.)

Barack Obama’s senior aides believe he is on course for a landslide election victory over John McCain and will comfortably exceed most current predictions in the race for the White House.

Their optimism, which is said to be shared by the Democratic candidate himself, is based on information from private polling and on faith in the powerful political organisation he has built in the key swing states.

Insiders say that Mr Obama’s apparent calm through an unusually turbulent election season is because he believes that his strength among first time voters in several key states has been underestimated, both by the media and by the Republican Party. … Read all.

I suppose Barack’s just loving this financial crisis which takes people’s minds off the critical importance of electing a real Commander In Chief, and makes people want to change horses.

2nd Update: The UK Telegraph has another headline story today: “Bailout failure ‘will cause US crash’” — “The US stock market could suffer a devastating crash with shares losing a third of their value this week if Hank Paulson’s financial bailout plan fails, US Treasury officials have warned. …”

Via CNET: Stocks Plunge as Fear Spreads; Apple Falls Here are some snippets, with handy links to track the financial situation:

Stocks plummeted Monday as fear rippled through the market with cracks starting to show in the global financial system and a House vote on the Wall Street bailout bill due later today.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average, was off more than 2.5 percent, while the S&P 500 and

Nasdaq shed more than 3 percent. The CBOE Volatility Index, widely viewed as the best gauge of fear in the market, shot up 8 percent to about 38.

[large section omitted]

Later on Monday, hedge-fund managers will have to disclose their short positions to regulators, a move set to give a rare public glimpse into their secretive trading strategies two weeks later.

As the U.S. government worked overtime to shore up its financial system, cracks started to show in the world financial sector as two European banks were nationalized in two days and central banks threw money at banks trying to persuade them to lend to each other.

In Britain, mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley became the second British bank to be taken under the government’s wing since the crisis began last year.

Fortis is the first major euro zone bank to buckle under the financial turmoil triggered in August last year by U.S. mortgage defaults, and an early relief rally in markets at news of progress in Washington soon fizzled out.

And shares in French bank Dexia tumbled more than 20 percent on a newspaper report that it might launch an emergency capital increase.

[...]

Apple shares were the most actively traded on Nasdaq, plunging 16 percent, after a slew of downgrades. Analysts said it wasn’t so much that Apple was doing anything wrong as it was a worry about demand.

[...]

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  • benny

    obama is underestimating the repubs if he thinks he can win in a landslide. the game has just begun.

  • beebop

    Was it the Dave Clark Five who had an old song that was entitled “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet?” I think that is what Wednesday is going to bring.

  • beebop

    Sorry … Bachman Turner it is …..

  • arabella trefoil

    Americans don’t like know-it-alls. They like underdogs.

  • http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PALIN Mary Cusack

    Oh goddess, I might as well pack up my bags and move to Ireleand

  • Shiloh

    Who can’t see that this new “belief” that he can win by a landslide is a reaction to Zogby talking about McCain winning by a landslide? Zogby has been the most accurate pollster in the last four presidential elections. I think this spooked them and this is typical Obama believing that they can counter Zogby by saying, “well WE beleive WE can win by a landslide, so there!”

  • Perry Logan

    I was not counting on the mainstream media’s bias toward Obama. This changes everything. Without the media spinning things for them, the Republicans don’t stand a chance.

  • arabella trefoil

    Maybe Obama has to say that he’s going to win in a landslide so that he can raise more money.

    “I’m going to win in a landslide, no problem. Now send me some more money.”

    I guess he needs to build the entire Acropolis out of marble as a setting for his victory speech.

  • benny

    Gov. Rendell takes a page out of Palins book……

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Sept. 26, 2008

    GOV. RENDELL SAYS STATE PLANE SOLD FOR NEARLY $1.4 MILLION; PROCEEDS RETURNED TO STATE ACCOUNT

    HARRISBURG – Citing his continued efforts to cut costs and make state government operate more efficiently, Governor Edward G. Rendell today announced that the commonwealth has sold its 1981 Beech King Air 200 for $1.375 million.

    “By selling this state-owned plane, Pennsylvania taxpayers benefit by getting a return of $1.375 million for the sale of an asset that we no longer needed,” Governor Rendell said.

    Midwest Underground Inc., of East Moline, Ill., purchased the plane, which had appraised for $1.367 million.

    The state purchased the seven-seat, twin-engine turboprop in 1992 for $1.05 million.

    The Department of General Services, which handled the negotiations and final agreement for the sale, placed the executive transport plane for sale on the open market in early April.

    Proceeds from the sale were deposited into PennDOT’s Aviation Restricted account, which is used to provide funding for airport projects statewide.

  • It’s Not Me

    This isn’t sounding good. It seems to me there’s more people voting against this than are voting for it. Many want to wait until next week. They want to slow this thing down…..take a closer look until next week.

    I think there’s more going on here than meets the eye. Michael Moore’s latest email says there’s a coup going on right before our very eyes. I tend to agree. There’s more to this than what we peon tax payers are being told.

    Neil Cavuto also thinks this is being overblown…..WHY? What does he know that WE aren’t being told?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    They can spin all they want. You can’t take bovine excrement and spin it into a souffle.

  • PhxNickD

    US elections: Barack Obama’s team believes he can win by a landslide (Okay, that’s an OT story, but I thought you needed to see this ASAP — I nearly jumped out of my skin when I saw that headline.)

    Now would be a good time for the “Whitey” tape to apear

  • K. Wynne

    Such arrogance is also indicative of inside knowledge of election fraud.

    Please note that the media only speaks about “voter fraud”, which is blaming the voter. In reality, it’s more likely to be election fraud perpetrated by the democratic party leadership in those states where they use voting machines.

    It’s proven fact that these machines can be hacked and reprogrammed in advance or even in real time, depending on the type of machine and how much unfettered access to the voting machines the technician (who works for the manufacturer of the machines) has.

    There will be absolutely no way to audit those voting systems that have no paper trail and the machine’s final count will take precedence.

    Where the optical scan machines counting the actual paper ballots are used, the time alloted by law to contest the outcome is so short that by the time a complainant gets the receipts from the machine to compare against the paper ballots, the winner has already been announced. To compound the problem, in most cases, citizens rarely, if ever, have a complete set of the machine receipts making an official audit virtually impossible and would not stand up in court. There’s more. The cost for acquiring the machine receipts can be astronimical and few can afford the costs involved.

    The smirk you see on BO’s face is exactly the same smirk you saw on GWB’s face during both the 2000 and 2004 elections. Like GWB, BO must have advance knowledge that these machines are going to deliver the election to him.

    That’s why it is so important for everyone to vote for McCain and give him a landslide. You can’t explain away a landslide, but you can in a close election, program the machines just enough to favor BO without raising any red flags.

    Let’s change the course of history and make certain McCain gets the landslide, not BO!

  • Hijacker

    I, for one, a Disabled Vietnam Veteran, and continuous avid BILL & HILLARY CLINTON supporter for many years now, cast my VOTE for a KNOWN COMMUNIST! It is a VERY SIMPLE decision to all my fellow PUMA’s

  • Anonymus

    I think Democrats are orchestrating his – they would even see a Great Depression as long as that ensures Obama wins

  • Anonymus

    I also think Hillary was the best pesn to have stopped Obama initially. I don’t know if it is possible anymore

  • vinnie

    I agree. If the 527s don’t come out with some good stuff soon, I think McCain is going to struggle in the coming days. A wife of one of my friends works as a DC insider, a Republican. When I asked her about all the stuff about Ayers, Indonesian connection, etc., she said they are aware of all this but may not have to play these issues out if the race remains close. I told her that the media is so in the tank for Barry that if they don’t play it out soon, this election is a done deal for those Democratic thugs. I hope she listened.

  • Anonymus

    I also think Hillary was the best person to have stopped Obama initially. I don’t know if it is possible anymore

  • Indy

    Another “me too! mee too!” moment. Nauseating.

  • tbww

    there is WAY too much dependence on 527s. the way they are portrayed on this blog, you’d think the 527s have some kind of magical powers.

  • Mercedes

    This interpretation makes sense to me. In Colorado where I live, supposedly a swing state, the lawn signs with just state democratic candidates outnumber those having both state candidate signs plus Obama signs by about 15 or 20 to 1. Although Democrats, most of these people will probably not be voting for Obama and that vote will nullify and surpass any newly registered Obama voters.

    This business in Missouri about prosecuting what Obama calls “dishonest” TV adds and adds by the NRA will spread like wildfire in the part of Colorado where I live. It will backfire bigtime. I can’t see that the people in Missouri are going to tolerate Gestapo tactics by the Obama campaign either.

    Also, I don’t believe any Democratic polls. It’s part of their propaganda. Most voters seem to have caught on to that…except maybe the starry-eyed first time voters Obama is counting on.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Do not forget something, Obama’s Senior Aides have absolutely no success in any national campaign EVER

    These people are low life thugs who will do or say anything in attempts to sway voters and if you read the full article, even the race card was thrown into it again!

    This is such a reminder of last Friday’s “I have a bracelet too” stupid statement by Obama during the debates!

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    Main Street turns on Wall Street
    and the effect on the race – all the promises need readjustment – not that there’s anything left of Obama’s
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/main-street-turns-on-wall-street/

  • ObamaGoBacktoChicago

    Make this viral send it to anyone and everyone you know:

    Maxine Waters, et al stating there was no problem at Fannie Mae or Freddie. It is a Cspan video. Why is the media not covering this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

  • txchick57

    Well, Susan, I’m about to throw in the towel (although I will go and vote, not that it will matter in Texas). This dumbed down American Idol, Heloc addicted moronic electorate will get the leader they deserve. All the interest groups which have supported him and will shove him across the finish line will be standing there with their hands out waiting for their quid pro quo once he’s in office but he won’t have anything to give them because of this financial mess. He’s backpedaling furiously already. I expect mass disillusionment to set in fairly early on and by the time the 2012 election rolls along, I think any warm bodied Republican will beat him.

    I also agree with all of that despite the fact I didn’t like Hillary, she was a vastly superior candidate and would have been a vastly superior president.

    I will throw away my television on Nov. 5, not that I watch much.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Interesting coming for the campaign of a candidate who consistently underperformed the polls in primary races…..

  • sjc-tx

    Hype, spin, rhetoric… This is how the barky campaign plays the game… The ONLY way this idiot can “win” is to cheat. (we have his record on this – the only record of his doing ANYTHING). I think we all must be VERY vigilent in our monitoring of polls and get after the ‘officials’ in charge to be certain as little cheating and fraud takes place as possible.

  • dixie

    You must be one of the little acorns planted by Obama. But don’t worry you will always be just a sap(ling).

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Of course if he continues to send petulant Cease and Desist letters against all opposing campaign ads by threatening legal action, we know exactly what Obama and all those fringe parties that have come alive to support him, thinks of Democracy.

  • Jules

    I don’t know, but I’ve come to believe the opposite of whatever Obama & his campaign say. If they are predicting a landslide for themselves, it probably means a landslide for McCain. Obama is just so transparent with his game-playing.

  • arabella trefoil

    That’s true. Donna Brazile is a good luck charm, isn’t she?

  • Objective analysis

    It has not reached October yet. Trust me, there is more things going on.

    Google – Obama Crimes and you will see the lawsuit that is existing with Obama challenging his natural born status and dual citizenship.

    PUMA 2008!

    Patience – the CRA mess has caused all this stuff since 1977 (President Jimmy Carter and the 95th Congress) instituting a welfare system to low income & less credit worthy undocumented workers and American citizens.

  • joseyj

    Caption under picture —

    “Barack Obama speaks in Detroit. Obama said John McCain’s support for deregulation helped cause the financial crisis”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802212.html?hpid=topnews

    Obama is a lying asshole!

  • catherine

    Relax folks. Obama’s always talking trash and somehow McCain manages to outmaneuver him.

    You seriously think the repubs are going to let him win with all the ammo they have against him??

    Rezko’s already talking and if he won’t sink Obama, rest assured that Blago will.

    Repubs have already noticed how Obama recovers from controversy. They’re timing their October surprise.

    Only a day before the election Kerry was a bit ahead of Dubya in the polls.

  • sjc-tx

    Obama and all those fringe parties that have come alive to support him, thinks of Democracy

    barky doesn’t think about anyone but himself.

  • wodiej

    Perry, do you ever say anything positive, encouraging or uplifting?? For crying out loud, get a new perspective. I tire of your negativity.

  • Jules

    TROLL ALERT

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Ironically, Zogby is the pollster I trust the least because he brother Jim works for the Obama campaign. He is president of the Arab American Institute.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Zogby

  • jangles

    Obama needs a PUMA bracelet to replace that one he misused.

  • bayareavoter

    I’m afraid the Obama campaign is right. There was a recent article about their voter registration drive in homeless shelters and outside liquor stores. Those people don’t get polled. Here’s a link to an AP story about what they’re doing in OH

    http://tinyurl.com/4e5vc7

    This will probably be the first time there is a much larger disproportionate number of voters for Pres ONLY with the down ticket totally ignored.

    The BO campaign beat Hillary with the arcane study of caucuses; their cheating in the caucuses but also their understanding that AA districts in primary were given more weight than other districts so Hillary often won more districts but her votes counted for fewer delegates. This was all planned by Donna Brazile back in 2004.

    I would not be surprised if they are right about their internal numbers now. McCain and the 527s need to get busy if they plan to win this.

    Someone here on NQ referenced this quote in Newsweek. If more people read this I think people would start to get worried:

    “People that I know that have never cared about politics are registering to vote this time: gang members, ex-cons, you name it,” says rapper Snoop Dogg. “I hate to see a lot of that hope go down the drain, and if he loses, it will.”

    (full Newsweek story here)

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/161214

  • arabella trefoil

    Yes. The Republicans treat Obama like the Dustin Hoffman character who is being tortured by the dentist. They let him think he’s escaped the drill, and then they drag him back to the chair.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    They sucked up to horse face in 2004 too. But the swiftboats ate him. Barky can write all the cease and desist letters he wants, he can’t block paid advertisements no matter how he tries to spin it. Besides, does he reallly think networks are going to give up billions in revenue just for him?

  • catherine

    Can you say Bob Shrum? LOL

  • mcpalin hill

    benny — was it only a couple of days ago that Obama believed that we were all against him and it was racism that would keep him from the White House? Obama is insane. He goes from one extreme to another. The electoral map favors Republicans who are furious at the earmarks Obama tried to have added to the bail out bill. 42% of Hill Dems will not vote for him. 92% of Republicans going for McCain while only 74% of Dems want Obama. I find it significant that Ron Paul is beginning to raise a lot of money all of a sudden. I have never seen a candidate like Obama so hated by such a large portion of the American people but to keep him from being depressed his people show him numbers which are supposed to make him feel positive. Instead he goes hog wild.

  • bert

    It is not just that they have never won a national campaign, I don’t think they have ever even run one. Plus many Onama staffers are new to politics all together. They are fresh from colege and some have even dropped out of college, suspened their education, to work in this campaign. RCP has a different article this morning that says basically the exact same thing as the one posted here. Hubris. Iy will be the downfal of this campaign.

  • sjc-tx

    voter registration drive in homeless shelters and outside liquor stores. Those people don’t get polled. Here’s a link to an AP story about what they’re doing in OH

    well all these drunks and illiterates have to know 1- how to work a voting machine. 2- be able to see! the screen… This is so farcicle… Talk about desparate!!!

  • arabella trefoil

    I have a bracelet too. From uh, uh Pooh.

  • Paul3triple

    you guys act like such suckers. All day you whine about fraud and how the election is impossible. You let them beat you down and you guys do not even put up a fight.
    If you guys do not stand up for yourselves and let this happen you deserve it.
    Stand up, stand up and fight.
    Nothing is inevitable, in the words of John McCain.
    Instead of whining for 527′s. Why not hit the streets and help and fight to win this election.
    Of course Obama says he will win. What else is he going to say?
    You guys need to get away from your computers and get your boots on the ground.
    We get the officials we deserve, one of the reasons is poeple sit around and bitch and whine instead of being active. Hillary is gone. Instead of dreaming what could be, take control of this country’s destiny and work for a better future.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    We erred in our judgment

    CBC (Canada) apologizes for Palin is white trash article.

    “Mallick’s column is a classic piece of political invective. It is viciously personal, grossly hyperbolic and intensely partisan.

    And because it is all those things, this column should not have appeared on the CBCNews.ca site.

    We erred in our editorial judgment. You told us in no uncertain terms. And we have learned from it.”
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_cruickshank/20080928.html

  • vinnie

    My brother is a fund manager and is my source for financial news. He was rather surprised all last week that the media made it seem like a deal had to be inked by Sunday (yesterday). Yes, the situation is very bad but he thought the media made it worse than it actually was. The market is not reacting positively today because the talk is that it may not be enough as a solution (not necessarily in terms of $$$). The market is on to the next fixation which is who’s next to bite the dust like Wachovia.

  • arabella trefoil

    It’s busy work for the Campers. And it’s psychological warfare. It’s directed toward PUMA’s. “See, we don’t need you. Stay home.”

  • wodiej

    Cripes, I can see why BO supporters are buying this landslide shit spewing from their campaign, but half the people on here are buying it too.

  • benny

    Biden – ignore Palin. Guess they got this idea from the way McCain ignored obama. obama always looked to McCain for validation, but McCain didn’t even look at obama. Bidens gonna try this now. :-)

    Sept 29, 2008) “At Debate, Biden Told: Ignore Palin” (NYSUN)

    “His goal is to ignore Palin and focus on connecting with voters sitting in their living rooms by making clear he is indeed one of them — an uncommon, common man,” a Democratic strategist who served as an aide to Vice President Gore during the 2000 campaign, Christopher Lehane, said.

    The two running mates will meet in St. Louis this week for what is perhaps the most eagerly anticipated vice presidential match-up in recent memory, and the debate is fraught with risk for both candidates.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/at-debate-biden-told-ignore-palin/86746/

  • arabella trefoil

    Yes.

  • Shiloh

    Zogby has a reputation to uphold. That matters most. Besides, how do you explain they are the poll that shows a statistical tie right now?

  • AF catfish

    OK and he just caved into the bakers’ lobby and opposed Hillary’s idea for helping keep people in their homes. Seriously, this guy has no tenacity (except when it comes to getting elected.) He’s a caver-in-chief.

  • mcpalin hill

    shiloh — Carville said it best–those who call themselves winners are losing. Those who say we need to keep on fighting for every vote are the ones who are winning. Like everything else Obama says its a bluff. But when you call yourself a winner by a landslide your people stay home thinking they don’t need to drag themselves to the polls while the other side feels its imperative to vote. Obama is a desperate little kid–

  • arabella trefoil

    Sounds like a winning strategy to me.

  • mcpalin hill

    ferd — that is the best lololol

  • athena

    Yea – their private, internal polling……..pfft! He is goining to lose big.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Hate to say it, but desperate people who are in trouble always talk up a good story to promote themselves!

    If Obama’s campaign had real internal polls claiming a landslide anyone with a touch of a brain capacity think they’d release that sort of information especially now, so that their opponent could act upon it?

    This is simply Axelrod astroturfing again and to fall for it is rediculous when you simply consider this is a year when the Deomcrats should be leading in pblic polls by high double didgets and even more with the media support Obama gets, and where do the public polls stand, virtually tied, not because Obama is Black, but because the more people get to know about Obama and his pathological lies, the more they do not want him in public life!

  • joseyj

    Obama is an affirmative action candidate – promoted by the Washington establishment, media, and press that’s concealed damaging info about him and excoriated his opponents.

    NObama! I already have a savior.

  • sjc-tx

    Wouldn;t it be the GREATEST thing if we had an election without ANY pundits, talking heads, know-it-alls, and ‘experts’ to tell us who and why to vote for??!! TV should be banned…

  • vinnie

    Yes, perhaps. But politics is a contact sport, if they want to win, they gotta fight. I didn’t hear anything on the news from the McCain camp yesterday while Barry ran at the mouth taking credit for the bill.

  • destardi

    REFERENCE? I would like to see where Zogby says McCain will win in a landslide.

  • Jules

    There was a recent article about their voter registration drive in homeless shelters and outside liquor stores.

    Can the police get them for “VUI”- Voting Under the Influence?

    gang members, ex-cons, you name it,” says rapper Snoop Dogg. “I hate to see a lot of that hope go down the drain, and if he loses, it will.”

    Oh my God! We now have to make sure the gang members and ex-cons have hope? You know Snoop Dogg literally admitted to being a pimp.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    We’ve posted at least two videos with Maxine Waters’ statements — Larry Johnson did just the other day, and so have I.

    Btw, I checked her out at OpenSecrets.org — she gets the highest percentage of her campaign funding via lobbyists from the — drum roll — real estate industry.

  • arabella trefoil

    Now he has to kill a moose.

  • Paul3triple

    you guys act like such suckers. All day you whine about fraud and how the election is impossible. You let them beat you down and you guys do not even put up a fight.
    If you guys do not stand up for yourselves and let this happen you deserve it.
    Stand up, stand up and fight.
    Nothing is inevitable, in the words of John McCain.
    Instead of whining for 527’s. Why not hit the streets and help and fight to win this election.
    Of course Obama says he will win. What else is he going to say?
    You guys need to get away from your computers and get your boots on the ground.
    We get the officials we deserve, one of the reasons is poeple sit around and bitch and whine instead of being active. Hillary is gone. Instead of dreaming what could be, take control of this country’s destiny and work for a better future

  • sjc-tx

    Obama is an affirmative action candidate – promoted by the Washington establishment, media, and press that’s concealed damaging info about him and excoriated his opponents.

    NObama! I already have a savior.

    AMEN!

  • bayareavoter

    I watched the CBS evening news last night.

    First they had a slanted story trashing McCain regarding his input on the deal in D.C.; then they covered Obama by running clips of him campaigning and trashing McCain in each clip they played.

    So the net effect was all for Barky and all against McCain. It’s exactly what they did to Hillary and I think it has to sway voters at home.

    Also I watched the networks cover the SNL skit about Palin–everyone loves to make fun of her but not once did I see the Obama/Rezco/Chicago thugs part of SNL quoted anywhere.

    That negativity is hard to overcome when it is a constant drumbeat.

  • catherine

    Not only that but how the heck does Barky think he’s going to win when nearly HALF of Clinton voters won’t vote for him?? LOL

    And let’s face it there are many people who will claim they’ll vote Nobama just to avoid the “racist” label but have absolutely no intention of doing so.

    Remember NH? He had a 13% lead over Hillary and she whooped his ass. Why? Because when it came time to vote all those white male independents who said they preferred Obama ended up voting for McCain.

    Just this morning my neighbor who planned to vote for Barky said she’s too disappointed in him and will now not vote for him.

  • pm317

    This is another form of voter suppression. What they are hoping is that this will create an aura of inevitability. Which in turn will make people who want to vote against him less enthusiastic to vote thinking that their vote won’t make any difference (everyone thinks their vote is just one vote, but they should force themselves to think collectively.)

    {reminds me of a side story I learnt as I started my hobby as a hiker — you throw away an apple core on the trail thinking it is just one core and biodegradable and then think if hundreds of hikers do the same, what do you have?}

    So go vote NO even if you are not in a swing state for this FLAKE called Obama.

  • athena

    Actually wasn’t it Paulson saying how urgent this bailout is needed.

    I continue to call and write my congressmen and woman and tell them NO WAY should they support this, NO WAY. I call everyday just in case they need extra support when opposing this bill …..you all may consider doing the same.

  • catherine

    Felons can’t vote.

  • mcpalin hill

    txchick57 — You heard the saying when the going gets tough the tough get going. Now’s the time to get tough. Why do you think Obama says this — its to depress our vote. Stay strong — The Republicans have not begun to fight.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    You’re correct, Uppity. Except maybe for NBC. It’ll be interesting to see if they air those ads. (But the 527s probably wouldn’t waste money airing the ads on MSNBC with its puny ratings.)

    Does CNBC air political ads often? That might be a great channel just because probably more people are tuning in than usual. (I don’t generally watch CNBC so don’t know.)

  • Jules

    I agree totally with the stand up and fight part. No one ever gets anywhere in life by giving up. But if you really want to be inspirational to the people reading this, you might not want to insult them for being “suckers” and “whiners”.

  • tbww

    I agree.

    This is just a trick.

    Get to work, people!

  • Felix Rodriguez

    You mean the 527′s are finally coming, Beebop?

    I honestly don’t know what’s taken so long and I can hardly wait to see them.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Is anyone watching C-Span? I’m just curious what’s going on . I am watching the other news networks.

    Last i heard on the news, the vote is supposed to come up in @ 20 minutes or so. True?

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net Linda

    Communism. Plain & simple.

  • benny

    lol rofl. just spilt my cuppa. gotta get myself a new keyboard. :-)

  • TeakWoodKite

    BO never has closed the deal, what makes this astroturfing Psyco-babble meme by Axelrod any different?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Thanks. Just calling a spade shovel a shovel farm implement

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Is that JM08′s alter ego?

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Two reasons, first it is a gasping effort to have McCain voters stay home and not bother to vote and Second the Obama camp is desperately scared over what McCain has up his sleeve since basically being silent for the past few days, Axelrod cannot make lies up to a silent opponent!

  • wac for hillary

    I like that image!

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

    Where is McCain in all this? I am now unclear if he has any role at this point….

    When does McCain take off the friggin’ gloves??

    Laura Ingrahm said that they were thinking of putting Palin on with Couric again???

    Why don’t they take Gingrich’s points from the convention, about her qualifications being more than Obama’s and run a friggin’ ad to dissipate the Axelrod smears???

    I’m getting very, very nervous…

  • Leisa

    I think this analyst,James Quinn, is the most even handed in his report of what is happening with our financial crisis.

    http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=796&pageid=89&pagename=Features

    Here is a slice of what he has to say. I hate Harry Reid, but I got over what he said and read anyway.

    I highly recommend you read his articles.

    What Do We Know Today

    Harry Reid, Democratic Senate Majority Leader, has spoken the first truthful words from a politician during this entire crisis: “No one knows what to do. We are in new territory here. This is a different game.”

    We have been listening to Hank Paulson tell us that our banking system was sound for over a year. He was the CEO of Goldman Sachs. He knew the extreme risk-taking that was going on. He was not being straight with the American public. Today, he is being hailed as a hero in saving our country. We should be very careful in declaring men such as Paulson a hero. Union Colonel Joshua Chamberlin, who led his men in a charge down Little Round Top at the Battle of Gettysburg and saved the Union army, is a hero. Hank Paulson has committed our future generations to trillions in obligations for the sins of his buddies on Wall Street. This country has had many heroes—Hank Paulson is not one.

    Nicolas Taleb has posed the following questions: “Why don’t we realize that we are not that capable of predicting? Why don’t we notice the bias that causes us not to realize that we’re not learning from our experiences? Why do we still keep going as if we understand them?”

    If our business leaders and government leaders had learned from the LTCM collapse and NASDAQ collapse, we would not be experiencing this current crisis. Instead, Wall Street, Alan Greenspan, George Bush’s administration, and Congress attempted to put off the pain of recession by encouraging more risk-taking by companies and citizens. We are now reaping what they have sown.

    This has been a remarkable year. The United States has taken actions that will change our country forever. They have taken these actions without citizens voting or Congress passing any laws debated upon in public view. These actions have taken place behind closed doors and in conjunction with the bank CEOs who caused the problems. A multi-millionaire former investment banker, former professor of economics, and our first Harvard MBA President have committed at least one trillion of our future tax dollars to bailing out greedy incompetent criminal millionaire investment bankers. They have done this to avert an Armageddon-type financial meltdown. We are reminded of the rhetoric about weapons of mass destruction before our attack of Iraq. We needed to attack to avert a future nuclear holocaust. Why should they be believed now?

    Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke’s commitment of your grandchildren’s future so far is as follows:

    $29 billion — Bear Stearns Rescue
    $168 billion –Tax rebates to Americans
    $300 billion — Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac nationalization
    $58 billion — AIG nationalization
    $700 billion — Government taking bad debt off the books

    $1,255,000,000,000 — Total for Future Generation’s Bill

    And remember, when the government gives you an estimated cost, it is always prudent to multiply it by 10 to get closer to the truth.

    Let us be perfectly clear. The U.S. government has no money. We entered this week with a National Debt of 9.65 trillion dollars. The deficit for next year will surpass $600 billion. Every dime of these bailouts will be borrowed. They will be borrowed from China, Japan, and the Middle East. In an effort to keep our corrupt financial system afloat, we have sold another piece of our country. The prestige and status of the U.S. in the eyes of the world community have suffered a catastrophic non-reversible decline in the last nine months. “We The People” had absolutely no say in this decision.

  • Maverick

    Me thinks Perry is confused. He hates Obama but bashes McCain because he’s a Republican.
    Hey-Bush is the neo-con Republican and McCain is the moderate Republican. Funny how people lump everyone in the same party together. It’s about as sane as lumping the Clinton Dems with the radical Dems for Obama. It makes no sense at all.

  • beverly leslie

    What Barky’s camp is saying when people are underestimating his chances with first time voters, is all the dead people they are registering.

  • MP98

    For Larry Johnson:
    Are you going to back Obama, like Patrick Lang has done?

  • Leisa

    PS: The emphasis in the article was mine…

  • catherine

    The last sentence of the article hits truth.

    “The scale of their ambition will trouble those Democratic sceptics who consider Mr Obama’s aides to be complacent and inexperienced in national campaigns.”

  • Buck O’Fama

    Unfortunately, they may be correct. The media have been dragging his sorry ass into office and the credit meltdown may give him enough to push him in. But, the joke is on Obama and his ventriloquists; once you win, you have to govern. We may be in the worst economic straits in several generations and Obama is the LEAST qualified person to deal with it. So, Barry baby, election day may be the HIGH point of your presidency. If you get into office, you will likely be fighting off impeachment (or at least, irrelevancy) within a year. I don’t give a shit about you but unhappily the rest of us will be drowning in your wake.

  • Rah-Rah

    The swift boating of a Kerry was done by a 527.

    They have enormous power when they do it right/wrong, depending on your stance.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Ever heard of talking empty heads, that is what Obama’s campaign is doing right now, a stupid move because the more they talk the more ammo they give McCain while he sits silent.

    Anticipation is worrysome, and if it was an inexperienced candidate doing the silent thing now, it would be a time to worry, but these are the GOP’s who know timing and how to crush an opponent like a twig!

  • jyotinc

    Let’s do some physical work, besides blogging. Right now we’re honking for McCain here in Charlotte and registering some voters. But I feel it’s not enough. The ACORNS are quietly working here. There’s a lot of cheating during the primary. We can’t wait for 527 or Whitey Tape, time is ticking. Let’s do something. Where’s the Jewish people, where’s the Republicans. Let’s help McCain-Palin right now. We have to make sure he’s defeated. You don’t want Farrakhan and Rev. White set foot in the White House. They’re not “Under the Bus”. Muslims, Black Panthers, Ayers, and other Cummies and Marxist are all working for him surreptitiously.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    I have a bracelet, too. Although it’s a PUMA bracelet and where I live no one is voting for Barky anyway.

    I wear it proudly.

  • HC

    Maybe he can try to “connect with me” like he did with that young lady in Ohio, when he threw clean coal under the bus.

  • joseyj

    Rush Limbaugh began program with the video you posted about the 2004 House hearing with Dems defending Fannie, Freddie, and Raines!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    He plans to play the entire video and is stopping intermittently to identify context, the Dems and Repubs – and regulators WARNING about the impending disaster.

    Regulator = I can’t sweep this under the rug anymore.
    Repubs = screaming for regulation!
    Dems = there is no problem, yada yada yada…

  • kavala007

    No one believes anything Democrats say anymore. They have become a self-aggrandizing, self-promoting anti-country group of people. Every word they utter is “we’re great and can do no wrong; the other guys are lousy.” Thats the behavior of delusional tyrants. Every “crisis” is a photo-op” for them to promote themselves and their selected one. They act as if they have not been the majority in Congress for the past two years and that they do not have a 9% approval rating. Not even the failure of Nancy Pelosi’s book taught them anything. These are the people who think they can run this country. I have not seen any leadership skills that suggests they are up to the job. Instead they have put this country into a free fall with their shenanigans.

  • katmandu

    How they got the $700 million number:

    http://www.forbes.com/businessinthebeltway/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html

    “It’s not based on any particular data point,” a Treasury spokeswoman told Forbes.com Tuesday. “We just wanted to choose a really large number.”

  • American Woman

    LOL…so true.

  • beebop

    Nancy Pelosi is making me ill. I can’t understand how God doesn’t strike her dead.

  • Irish1139

    I just heard on FOX that Obama is iffy on the bailout bill. I thought he was the big negotiator?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Food for thought.

  • beebop

    I guess the obviousness of the fact that Larry is not a fan of 0mama has escaped your notice.

  • http://medusa2.wordpress.com Medusa

    Good post over at Riverdaughter called “Polls Shmolls”

    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/polls-shmolls/

    If I were Bozo, I wouldn’t open the champagne yet.

  • jbjd

    I just received this email from Ed O’Reilly, who unsuccessfully opposed John Kerry for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. I voted for Mr. O’Reilly. (Actually, I could have voted for him, twice, as I was handed two ballots.)
    ___________________________________________________

    Where There Is Smoke, There Is (still) Fire!

    As we begin this week, we have seen Congress working overtime rushing to put together the largest bailout plan in the history of our United States. Let’s make no mistake what this bailout is all about. It is all about trickle down economics! Every Congressional proposal is FOR the financial industry and NOT FOR average American working families and our senior citizens.

    During the campaign, I often talked about the J.P. Morgan takeover of Bear Stearns. How was it that executives from J.P. Morgan could call the power brokers at the Federal Reserve Bank and within days put together a multi billion dollar deal that gave out a multi million dollar, no bid contract to a company called Black Rock and leave the average American taxpayer holding the risk? The answer is pure and simple—special interest money in politics. If an ordinary American has a financial problem, can he/she call the Federal Reserve and get the same kind of access, service and influence? The answer is clearly and obviously, no.

    So, let’s take a look at how this all happens. There is great disparity in terms of access and influence with Washington decision makers. During the campaign, I cited my opponent’s campaign kickoff event as an example of how money gains access, and without access, there can be no influence. Let me be clear here. I use this as an example to illuminate a problem with the system and not, necessarily, with the person. The election is over, but the system remains.

    This campaign kickoff dinner had a $1,000 minimum cover charge and $2,300 minimum to have a private reception with an elected U.S. Senator who was elected to serve ALL of the people of Massachusetts. Who would pay a $1,000 cover charge? Certainly an average American can not afford to spend this amount of money for dinner. So, why would a person pay $2,300 for dinner and a reception? The answer is simple. The expensive cover charges are the price of admission, not only to talk with the elected official, but also to help form relationships with others who have paid a similar amount. Unfortunately, this campaign kickoff dinner is not an isolated occasion linked to this one so called representative. Events like this happen all across America every week.

    Looked at from another angle, the contributions to campaign funds by lobbyists, bundlers, and Political Action Committees are the “dues” necessary to become a loosely affiliated member of the “club”. Over fifty years ago, this “club” is what C. Wright Mills called “The Power Elite”. Mills described this “club” as being glued together by the interwoven interests of our corporate, military, and political leaders. What was written about over fifty years ago, has become fully illuminated by this bailout plan. This “club” is running OUR government! The truth is that ordinary Americans are being left relatively powerless and subject to the manipulation by today’s “ power elite”.

    Let’s get back to the rush and panic that has set in and around Washington and specifically within Congress itself. Why not wait to have hearings? Are there no alternatives to bailing out the people at the top? Wouldn’t it be better to take $700 billion dollars and put it into direct aid to average Americans? What about all the pillaging that was done by the “greedsters”? The panic and the chaos that has enveloped Washington is the result of the realization that, if hearings were held, the truth would come out. The truth is that most members of Congress need to look no further than the nearest mirror. The true blame for this mess rests with Congress itself and a system that thrives on special interest money.

    Recently, we have seen the largest gap in the inequality of income since just before the Great Depression. Out of the Great Depression came reform legislation such as the Glass-Steagall Act (1933), and later the 1956 Bank Holding Company Act, which mandated the separation of banks, insurance companies and securities firms. In 1999, however, Congress passed the Financial Services Modernization Act which basically tore down what has often been called the firewalls between these institutions.

    As a result of the lack of regulatory firewalls, the arsonists of greed have pillaged our country and ordinary Americans are left to bear the costs of putting out the fire. Congress is acting quickly to extinguish the flames because the heat is licking at their heels. There is a problem in this country and the problem is special interest money in politics. It is at the root of nearly all political decision making and, in this case, will keep the embers burning long after temporarily taking the heat away from members of Congress. This bailout plan is a smokescreen and where there is smoke, there remains fire. Let’s make no mistake about this bailout situation. The bottom line is that the middle class is being scorched and a trickling down economic plan will not put out a conflagration fueled by special interest money.

    Respectfully,

    Ed O’Reilly

  • benny

    I found this next article amusing and disturbing at the same time….a democrat, mother of 3, full-time attorney, and just HATES palin…..

    Sept 29, 2008) “Sarah Palin is ruining my life” (SALON)-More Deranged Whining From BOTS

    “And then came Sarah. My reaction to her, and the way the Republican Party threw her in our faces, and the pandering and hypocrisy that was behind their decision to do so, was immediate, visceral, and indeed, vicious. I have crossed every line I believed should never be crossed in public discourse — I have criticized not only her policies and her record, but her hair, her personal style, her accent, her abilities as a mother, etc. I’ve also begun to suffer personally and professionally. I bore my friends with my constant tirades against her, and am constantly distracted from my work by my need to continually update myself on the latest criticism, and indeed, ridicule, of her. In my hatred for her, I have begun to hate myself.

    I don’t want this woman ruining my life before she even gets a chance to ruin our country. How do I stop? Is there a self-help group for this?”

    A “Hater”*

    http://www.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2008/09/29/sarah_palin/index.html

  • Sue

    Have you read anything on this blog at all???

  • beebop

    Complimenting Barney Frank …. yack! She keeps saying it is bi=partisan and only thanks Democrats. What a witch.

  • txchick57

    Funny . . . I feel exactly the same way about Obama.

  • jbjd

    God forbid this officer of the court is called upon to zealously represent a client with Palin-like traits. Such contempt for a fellow human being falls in line with the general BO mindset but portends dire consequences for the legal presumption of innocent until proven guilty, in a court of law. (The “jd” stands for juris doctor.)

  • Leisa

    What flip floppers…

    from that same article:

    “I’m not about to give a $700 billion appropriation to a secretary I don’t know yet,” says Dodd.

    (About Paulson leaving in four months)

  • Phillymiss

    Here is the link from Zogby:

    http://www.newsroomamerica.com/politics/story.php?id=432614

    And lest you need more encouragement, remember that Missouri, the bellwether state, has voted with the winner since 1904 (with the exception of 1956) and McCain is ahead there.

  • tek

    Obama’s confidence comes from knowing the fix is in just like he knew the DNC would break all the rules to get him on the Dem ticket. It’s sickening.

  • Leisa

    Expect major flip flopping to come.

  • benny

    excellent point, jbjd. read that complete article. The attorney is nuts.

  • bayareavoter

    back to the financial crisis for a minute:

    Don’t you find it interesting that Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Newt Gingrich and a multitude of Congressional Republicans are against this govt bailout?

    I just don’t know enough about economics but how can we trust Paulson who is worth $500 million from his time at Goldman Sachs? Why did this become a crisis if these guys are so damn smart? Apparently economists were warning about this 2 yrs ago.

    This sounds like Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Obama did say he might keep Paulson on and you have to look at his ties to Wall St and the corrupt Dems in the Senate and Congress…

  • oppo

    ditto

  • Perry Logan

    Ouch! And right the Republicans just spent six years conferring dictatorial powers on the President. :(

  • http://villamedia.wordpress.com/ RepublicanChick

    Damn, and you’ve managed to not be hauled into jail under Bush’s administration.

    Hold on! Let me just dial the White House to let them know you need to be found immediately.

    Evil Republicans.

    :-)

  • dixie

    Wade Rathke,1970, the man behind “ARKANSAS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION for REFORM NOW”/AKA/AKORN, now known as ACORN. Also the founder of SEIU. Is also just another community organizer.
    http://progressive-strategy2.blogspot.com/2006/05/wade-rathke-seminar-summary.html

    This (under Progressive strategies and PROGRESSIVE STRATEGIES BRAIN) is a summary of Obama’s strategic plan for winning.

    I have been all over the map with this,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN

    but will not try and post here. But for those who think ACORN is trying to register DEMOCRATIC VOTERS, think again. ACORN is registering SOCIALIST voters.
    In fact the NEW ZEAL blogger says Obama joined the “NEW PARTY” in 1995.
    http://newzeal.blogspot.com/

  • lark

    John McCain speech in Ohio was simply amazing. He took the Country First theme and showed how many times and in so many ways he put his country first even during this financial crisis and all in all it puts to shame Oblahblah. John McCain will continue now with an emphasis on country first until Nov 6. Oblahblah adding Biden cannot and do not have anything to counter his claims. The only thing that Oblahblah can do is to try to steal the ‘Country First’ theme but that will backfire big time.

    In the debate Thursday, look for Biden to steal the ‘country first’ theme and at least say that Obama and him has put their country first. Then look for Gov. Palin to set the record straight by saying, ‘In this campaign there only one candidate that has fought for the American people and always puts his country first, and that candidate is John McCain.’

    Gov. Palin always puts her country first.

  • Maverick

    Read the bailout bill on http://www.foxnews.com in PDF format.

    It is a flimsy reed. After reading it I’m beginning to think this is all manufactured for political reasons. The bill is 110 pages and says alot about nothing that couldn’t be said in a few paragraphs. I do not trust them that this is the real bill. It still has 700 billion in it. (700 billion to buy bad loans?)50 billion now, 50 billion later, then 250 billion after, and 350 billion after that. Notice the bailout for home owners called their “modification” plan. It sucks. It’s for the homeowner who is current on their payments. UGH. ( Current lenders have better modifications out there than these thugs) Worst part is that the government will now be the note holder of your property and the lender. Boy Oh Boy. Why are people who know nothing about the lending industry making laws about lending? (DODD, Franks, Pelosi, Reid)
    There are serious economists, for example, who think we could be on the verge of a huge bank run. Dems didn’t need to put this phoney bill out front and center scaring people into a bank run. It’s a bunch of nonsense. Half of it is missing. There is supposed to be 250 pages. All that’s in it is who is overseeing the money and what kind of credentials are needed by them. They can still be independent overseer of the money. Blah blah blah.
    McCain only ran back to DC to stop the bill portion that included ACORN. Pelosi will stick that part back in when no one is looking and before the vote. I do not trust her and Reid. She says “Reid was the one who said “I can’t wait any longer. Let’s fix this” We all know what Reid really said. He said, ” I’m going on vacation because no one knows what to do” So the Republicans took the bull by the horns and came up with solutions. Question now is: where is the remainder of the bill? Why such a long doc on inconsequentials. Is the bill not mentioning ACORN but still going to allot money to them through default? Notice the bill lengthened with ‘definitions of FDIC and the illegal use of the term by others and advertising’ It’s already law!
    This bill in it’s current form is a bunch of nothing.
    It includes ‘HOPE’ program that is already law. It includes “disclosures of loan docs to borrower” which is already law…this is a sham. Read it and see. We still have no proof where the money is going.

  • Rob in Chicago

    A new tactic that Obama is using and counting on to win in states like Colorado & New Mexico (to capyure the Hispanic vote) is to paint McCain as an unreliable allie on immigration issues, and to promise Hispanic voters an immigration nirvana if he wins. He is counting on most folks being distracted by the economy, and that his pro-immigration message will only really reach those whose radar is turned to receive that message. From what I’ve seen written, his plan is working, and McCain needs to re-claim this issue.

  • Linda OKC

    yep…going to be lots of dead Dems voting in Nov.

  • lark

    McCain will not struggle because he is able to show without a doubt that going to Washington was putting his country first. That’s what will carry him till Nov 6.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    I was changing channels over the weekend and went past BET and their get out the vote drive. They actually had a ticker listing each state, the last day to register and who could vote. It stated which states would not allow felons, etc.. It looked like a telethon and was filmed in Philly!

    I also heard that in Ohio there is early voting going on right now and his campaign is having John Legend perform a concert to entice votes for Barry. This is a scary time!

    I will say though, I’m seeing way more McCain signs displayed than Obama in the Philly burbs.

  • Joker

    This last spring I recieved an e mail stating that we would have a meltdown in the markets in Oct…Could there be anything behind all of this??? I know its a dumb question but I had to ask….

  • Shiloh

    Why are the NQ threads so slow today?

  • rapp

    does anyone know what the youtube video of Obama saying to union leaders that he wants open union votes is called? I can’t find it. It was recorded on a cell phone and was on Fox News during the primaries.

  • CamdenRave

    Who cares what the polls show? You’re going to vote anyway, right? If your candidate is going to lose in a landslide would you just say, “Screw it. I’ll stay home!”? Of course you wouldn’t! The election will not be over until November 4th. No poll is going to affect what I do. And if, for some reason, someone decides not to vote because of a poll- Good. They losers who gave up their right.

  • rapp

    Yes, this is how the democrats planned to steal the election by using Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. There was a huge increase in sub-prime mortgage loans since 2005.

  • Indy

    Hi neighbor-I’m in Colorado too. The other day I actually saw a couple of Hillary signs (in NE Denver) that had gone up since I’d been up there last. Definitely see more signs for the state races than Obama signs. It seems to me that in 04 there were many Kerry/Edwards signs and bumper stickers, and I just don’t see that for Obama/Biden this time. What do you think?

  • lark

    The deal was urging. But now that we can read the Bill and it seems obvious is a travesty in the making and that it will have at best mixed results, and it will mostly work against the middle class, then what’s the rush?

  • CamdenRave

    I never put my country first. My family is first. My God is second. My country? Third or fourth.

  • benny

    Test….I posted a comment thrice, but it hasn’t appeared. hmm

  • Rob in Chicago

    McCain convinced me, but that did not stop the media from calling it a political stunt, and that is the news that most voters heard. The media also sought to down-play any Republican role in the negotiations (other than Paulson & Bush), and highlighted only the statements of Boehner, which were reported as political posturing and obstruction. We can’t assume that most voters get the correct information from No Quarter, though that would be most excellent if they did.

  • Erasmus

    Limerick,
    Ireland
    Oh goddess, I might as well pack up my bags and move to Ireleand
    No stay and slug it out.

  • tek

    We’re in Georgia. Same here. More and more McCain signs appearing, Obama signs concentrated on campus.

  • benny

    somebody please get my comment out of the spam-filter and post it.

  • lark

    This bill is a travesty in so many ways. But to say that the gov. is going to hold foreclosed property until they can make a profit off of them is unreal. Essentially saying that until home values go up to where they want them, they will not sell these assets and if they don’t then they’ll sell them at a loss but get the difference from the banks. That seems to me a complete misuse of government police powers. A blatant abuse of power and at this very moment our representatives are acquiescing on it.

    UNF****KING BELIEVABLE.

  • tek

    People, no one can depend on Michael Moore for analysis. It’s a proven fact that he lies in his films.

  • lark

    This bill is a travesty in so many ways. But to say that the gov. is going to hold foreclosed property until they can make a profit off of them is unreal. Essentially saying that until home values go up to where they want them, they will not sell these assets and if they don’t then they’ll sell them at a loss but get the difference from the banks. That seems to me a complete misuse of government police powers. A blatant abuse of power and at this very moment our representatives are acquiescing on it.

    UNF****KING BELIEVABLE.

  • trails

    I don’t think anyone can call this race yet. There are too many variables. Will the economic crisis grow worse? How will voters react? So far, the markets are looking a little unimpressed.

    I, personally, would rather have the calmer, steadier, more experienced hand on the rudder now, not the candidate who has little demonstrated experience with government on the federal level. Plus, let us remember, Barky is not FDR. Obama has left little in his legislative trail to tell us who this man is. But he’s left a hefty trail on what he likes to do: hand out government money to cronies and supporters. That’s not a very strong recommendation when financial times are lean.

  • Shiloh

    The feeling of inevitability is what any campaign wants. it demoralizes the opposition and while it might not stop most from voting, it might with the borderline likely voter and it depresses volunteer efforts. That’s the reaon you see the polls being manipulated.

  • lidia

    Is it not funny (I repeat myself, I know)? The USA economics is going the way of Titanic, and Susan is worried about

    a real Commander In Chief

    as if the next USA prez would have enough money to wage more agressive wars! USA could print more bucks, sure, the question is – who will want them LOL

  • Shiloh

    This is why Zogby was talking about a McCain landslide. There is a very large undecided pool and Obama support is soft. When it comes down to it, Zogby predict those voters will, as you say, prefer the steady hand rather than the big change.

  • Firefly

    One extremely disturbing thing about this election is the way the 0bama campaign and their surrogates throw around the word LIES – all the time.

    Just now on Fox the barky guy opened with something akin to “It’s amazing how many lies McCain can fit into one speech” – didn’t catch the exact quote ’cause I was trying to listen and have a telephone conversation at the same time – sorry.

    Anyway, in all previous elections I can remember, NOBODY has been so fast and loose with the word LIE – ever. And, of course, the 0bamamedia doesn’t even notice – only if McCain or his surrogates use it. In previous elections I remember hearing a lot of stuff like “misrepresenting” and “incorrect characterization” and such – the word “lie” once in a while – but NOT as a constant and consistent campaign tactic, ever.

    I think this is how they think they can get away with their POLICE STATE TRUTH SQUADS. If they label everything the opposition says as a lie, then “combatting the lies” sounds like such the correct thing to do, donchaknow. After all, the word “lie” is the exact opposite of “truth” (squad). And then, it’s just a hop, skip and a jump to MC CAIN IS A LIAR coming out of every surrogate and every pundit, with impunity. This characterization of McCain is being fed directly into the public consciousness. It’s also such good neutralization of all the criminal, corrupt truth that we hope is coming from the 527s – THEY’RE “PROVEN” LIARS – SEND THE TRUTH SQUADS – TAKE THEM OFF THE AIR – DO THE MORAL THING – PROSECUTE THEM!

    All part of the propaganda and intimidation they’re totally getting away with.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Yes, of course, but we also need to encourage undecided or third party PUMAs to vote McCain. This election is going to be way too close.

  • Sleepless in Chicago

    Open letter to John McCain.

    Did you really endure all those years of torture to play patty-cake with Obama, someone who really poses a greater threat to this country’s national security than North Vietnam ever did? I don’t think so.!

    If you really honor the memory of all those wounded and killed defending freedom on battlefields around the world, and I know you do, you must not go down without putting up a real fight.

    This has ceased to be politics. Make no mistake about it. This is a war. Obama, the closet Marxist, together with the lapdog media, are staging a silent coup.

    The USA can only be defeated from within and that’s just what Obama and his Saul Alinsky tactics are designed to do.

    Wakeup McCain. Where’s the guy who flew into the flak over North Vietnam? This is your final mission!
    Please give us the Guns of October that Obama and his left wing radicals and corrupt pals will never forget. Please give us Shock and Awe.

    Please give us a withering attack on how the Dems stand in the way of energy, economic and national security and the millions of high paying jobs that building nuclear plants, pipelines, refineries and oil drilling will bring.

    Please strafe the Dems who caused this financial meltdown by demanding that lenders give mortgage money to lower income people who couldn’t afford to pay it back.

    And how about a hombing run with names on the bomb? One for Dodd. Another for Obama. One for Raines. And Johnson. For Maxine Waters. And the rest. This may actually take a whole squadron to blow up. But remember, this is your last shot.

    Now, lest you believe I’m some right wing crackpot, I don’t own a gun. I’m not a member of a militia. I am, or at least was, a liberal Democrat. I have voted D for president the last 30 years. Go McCain.

  • MikeG

    There’s no way John McCain and Sarah Palin can measure up on their own — call in the 527′s to the rescue. Cancel the remaining debates and keep Gov. Palin away from the microphones. Block the airways from any news other than Fox News and Rush. Don’t let the dittoheads hear anything but the right wing line.

    Mission Accomplished.

  • vinnie

    Hi, neighbor. I’m in Denver too. I still have my Hillary signs up despite having a note taped to my door that read: The bitch lost, lose the signs. What a bunch of cowards…if they had told me that to my face, I woulda punched them. You don’t mess with my girl, Hillary.

  • McHope

    He’s flipped flopped on that today. Now Major Garrett has explained that Obama is giving mild support for the bill and is making it known that he’s made only a few phone calls and is keeping his distance.

  • Maverick

    You forgot 25 billion to bail out the auto industry for MI votes to Dems..it’s political
    25 billion for votes…

  • jrterrier

    i can see why things are so bad — lack of confidence. although both my husband and i work — he for the fed govt and i am self-employed — last night i was wondering whether i shouldn’t withdraw the money in my 401K, take a penatly hit and just pay off my mortgage before my 401K disappears. we should be able to weather any storm unless it truly is 1929 all over again. if i am feeling this way, i wonder how more vulnerable people are feeling.

    but of course, when mccain tried to calm the storm at the beginning of this, obama jumped on him. so be it. if this continues, the next president is going to have a lot of unhappy choices to make. he will not be very popular.

  • beth

    And how about a hombing run with names on the bomb? One for Dodd. Another for Obama. One for Raines. And Johnson. For Maxine Waters. And the rest. This may actually take a whole squadron to blow up. But remember, this is your last shot.

    Terrorist! I’m sending this as a credible threat to the Secret Service. These people need to fear you and this terrorist loving site.

  • Maverick

    I thought he was in FL and not on the floor. Obama has no authority to write this bill. He has nothing to do with it. It’s Reid, Pelosi, Franks, and Dood who are responsible for this flimsy bill that appears as if a first year law student wrote it.

  • Indy

    ROFLOL.

  • CamdenRave

    Should there be less polling? In a democracy no one should be demoralized. We get to decide what happens in our country. People should be energized whether their candidates are going to win or lose. The only reason there are so many polls is because a poll is a news story that writes itself.

  • csuzeq

    You beat me to those exact words!

  • educatedwhitewoman

    Rep. John Boehner just said the Bailout Bill is in serious jeopardy of not passing. Obama will have to run back to Washington and work on it, if that’s the case, a reporter on the Obama campaign said.

    Amazing. On the Sunday talk shows Obama was taking full credit for the bill, today he’s trying to distance himself from it, but if it doesn’t pass, everyone will be asking: “You said this was the greatest financial crisis of our time, but you didn’t bother to come to Washington and work on it?”

  • benny

    hombing???? you must be one of those low-information voters voting for obama. :-)

  • McHope

    Thank you for your analysis.
    Are you familiar with the oversight committee?
    Mark Cuban, who knows a thing or two about the market and money, said he was concerned by the placement of politicians on this committee for obvious reasons and also that those who are going to oversee this money have to do this as a full time job, it cannot be something that gets looked at once a month.

  • Leisa

    I made that observation about Obama and his campaign accusing others of being liars if they disagree with Obama at the Confluence.

    Obama’s campaign pushed the meme with Hillary also.

    Did you notice that he even called McCain a liar in so many ways in the debate?

    Obama and his henchmen play the “liar card” more than any other card. It is time he gets called on it.

    Can you imagine the President of the US calling the head of another state a liar?

  • Maverick

    Wachovia should have died long ago. Their pick-a-payment high rate loans are designed for the borrower to fail and the bank to gain. But they lost because values dropped. KARMA.

  • Sleepless in Chicago

    oops. Make that “bombing run,” not hombing run. I’m just a little trigger happy right now!

  • beth

    sorry sweetie, that should of been in blockquotes. that is a quote from a MCCAIN supporter (Sleepless in Chicago). obama supporters never make simple grammatical errors.

  • Indy

    Hey Vinnie! Honestly, I think it’s rude and juvenile to tape a note on someone’s door like that. I put my McCain/Palin signs between the house and the sidewalk to discourage vandalism. My Hillary supporters for McCain bumper sticker is still in the house..don’t want my car vandalized. I have seen more & more Mcain signs. One of the Hillary signs I saw looked like it had been vandalized, but it was still standing.

    tek- McCain should take GA handily, I would think. I’m going to be down there next week and be able to see signage for myself.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    This is snark, right?

  • Maverick

    Exactly. This is contrived. What’s the hurry. We have been in this economic position since 2006. This is political. Dems in congress are bullying and playing games again.

  • HC

    Felons can vote right from jail in Maine. Vermont too I believe. In many states they can once they have gotten out of jail.

  • benny

    oh sweetie….I was pulling your leg. Sad that an uptight obamacrat suffering from raving paranoia couldnt see it. :-)

  • Maverick

    What? Hillary is in the tank for BO and the Dems in congress. Hello?

  • beth

    are you about ready to kill someone?

  • Leisa

    Obama is not there, but Dodd and friends are and the dirty politicians are running for cover and the others are working on saving the taxpayer before the multimillionaires.

    What a sight to behold. If I was not loosing money hand over fist today, I would be eating my popcorn and enjoying the show.

  • HC

    ditto ditto

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Uh, just in case it isn’t…’hombing’ is not a grammatical error, it is a spelling error. A grammatical error would be something like not using upper case letters at the beginning of a sentence.

  • beth

    i (like obama) take terrorist death threats seriously.

  • Judy L. NC

    Even though I’m “UNA” (unaffiliated), I just signed up to be a poll watcher for NC GOP…training next Monday. Do you think they’ll take me?

  • benny

    you’ll have to ask palin, beth. she likes to kill moose. are you one? ;-)

  • benny

    you dont have to worry bout that. terrorists love obama. didnt you know that? lol

  • beth

    you are right.

  • Firefly

    Nobody in the media is gonna be saying 0bama didn’t bother to come to Washington – McCain’s surrogates have been saying it, but they’re not breaking through in any way – the media already have their narrative: “McCain was trying to grandstand because his poll numbers were falling, he got in the way of the bill being drafted and then passed – too bad, so sad McCain’s gamble didn’t pay off for him because no matter what barky does or ever will do IT IS THE RIGHT THING.” End of media story.

    That’s why McCain has to take his case directly to the people at the next debate. Calmly, and in a statesmanlike manner, he needs to cut barky off at the knees – with the whole truth.

  • beth

    this comment makes no sense.

  • benny

    I hope they do, Judy.

  • ritamary

    How is saving money for the taxpayers nauseating?

  • vinnie

    where did you go to sign up? I would like to volunteer in CO…I don’t trust those nutty acorns.

  • RJ

    Confidant of a BO win by a landslide? Hmmm…seems like typical Axlerod spin (more like propaganda). However, if I were a BO supporter I would be VERY concerned that the McCain campaign and RNC have been unusually quiet lately.

    WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • Hold onto your hats

    Vote underway.. It looks like the Republicans are going to kill the bail-out bill.

    The stock market is nose-diving as the vote progresses.

    A serious miscalculation may have just been made.

  • RJ

    oops…confident

  • Independently Minded

    I am watching C-SPAN, and it looks like the bailout isn’t going to pass in the House.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    I have no idea what’s going to happen.

    But I am glad the bill failed.

    There is something wrong when Nancy Pelosi begs Republicans to vote for a bill. She’s looking for cover.

    SCREW HER and they did.

  • Duras

    I agree. McCain did well in the foreign policy portion of the debate. But he should have been much more aggressive in explaining why he went back to Washington.

    He should have said “I went back to Washington because the Democratic leadership in Congress was attempting to ram through a deeply flawed bill that would have royally screwed the American taxpayer. I felt that it was my duty to help stop the mad rush to commit $700 billion in taxpayer money. My opponent apparently felt that it was more imnportant to get his previously scheduled time on national TV. I am perepared to vote for a bill, but not THIS bill!”

  • catherine

    Can’t wait to see that evil hag go down.

  • kevin

    yeah, but I have Barney Frank as my congresscritter, good luck with yours

  • catherine

    This is how CNN polled the state of Virginia on the evening of the election 2004. Enough said!

    Exit Polls: Kerry 50.2% Bush 48.7% Kerry +1.5%

    Actual Reuslts: Kerry 45.5% Bush 53.7% Bush +8.2%

    Discrepancy: 9.7%

  • catherine

    For NC
    Exit Polls: Kerry 48.2% Bush 51.8% Bush +3.6%

    Actual Reuslts: Kerry 43.6% Bush 56.0% Bush +12.4%

    Discrepancy: 8.8%

    For PA
    Exit Polls: Kerry 56.9% Bush 43.1% Kerry +13.8%

    Actual Reuslts: Kerry 50.9% Bush 48.4% Kerry +2.5%

    Discrepancy: 11.5%

    For NY
    Exit Polls: Kerry 65.1% Bush 33.8% Kerry +31.3%

    Actual Reuslts: Kerry 58.4% Bush 40.1% Kerry +18.3%

    Discrepancy: 13.0%

    For AL
    Exit Polls: Kerry 42.0% Bush 57.5% Bush +15.5%

    Actual Reuslts: Kerry 36.9% Bush 62.5% Bush +25.6%

    Discrepancy: 10.1%

  • La Compania Volante

    Re: Comment by Erasmus | 2008-09-29 12:04:22

    No stay and slug it out.

    Amen.

  • Maverick

    Deregulation was done in the 90′s and by Bill Clinton. I was great until it was gamed and abused by thugs.

  • ritamary

    I think Perry’s point is that if Obama wins, he inherits those dictatorial powers. Why do you think Obama claimed to be against the FISA bill and at the last minute voted for it? Do you want Barack Obama listening to your phone conversations or reading your email?

  • Maverick

    Hillary is gone.

  • vinnie

    I think that a rescue plan of some sort is needed but the way it is right now, it’s not the silver bullet that the market is looking for. Yes, the credit market is drying up but cobbling half baked plan is not going to fix anything.

  • Maverick

    Billion. not million-billion. And as I guessed it they are just winging it by asking for that amount. It is based on nothing. It has no support for that number. Hire some darned accountants you dem thugs.

  • moi61537

    He can win in a landslide if he is successful in his registration efforts. The Chicago political machine is very good at getting people, legal or illegal, to polling places. They are thugs but disciplined in a Mafia like way. Take a look at Dubuque, Ia where folks in very white or all white precincts questioned where the Latinos and African-Americans were coming from. I think we are on the verge of huge demographic shift in voting due to Obama’s campaign registering so many groups that usually do not vote.

  • Maverick

    Hi Ed. Thanks for your input.

  • It’s Not Me

    I can’t wait to see just how many ‘signing statements’ “The ONE” comes up with….should he be allowed to steal this election. The Idiot-In-Chief has signed 157 signing statements. Surely “The One” is just chomping at the bit to one-up the Idiot-In-Chief. He’s just as arrogant.

  • Maverick

    I love Sarah Palin. We should post this on their site. I love Sarah Palin. They will blow up over this. PS. I love her hair. She’s brainy and beautiful!

  • Maverick

    Asian and European shares on fears the crisis was spreading. Global money markets remained frozen.

    Investors around the world hung on every twist and turn in Washington as central banks in Asia and Europe pumped cash into the system to try to persuade fearful financiers to lend to each other.

    These (bank) announcements couldn’t have worse timing because they’re taking the shine off the potential bailout

  • It’s Not Me

    BUT, it was Paulson and Bernanke who went to Congress with this. I don’t believe it was solicited by Congress. Paulson and Bernanke have also been on teevee talking about the urgency of passing that bill. This isn’t the Democrats’ doing. This came straight from the WH and Treasury Dept. Don’t forget…Paulson was a big whig at Goldman Sachs and HIS PERSONAL FORTUNE IS AT RISK. THAT is why Paulson was turning this into something it isn’t.

    This is just another Republican ploy to RAPE Main Street Americans.

  • Maverick

    It’s full of nothing. Why should it pass. Get some new blood in there. This gang of four are not able to wade through this! Put Hillary in charge as speaker of the house. NOW!

  • It’s Not Me

    Hillary is only doing what she HAS TO DO to survive politically. BO is holding her DEBT over her head….which he has yet to help her pay off…because he’s such a F**king asshole.

  • It’s Not Me

    You keep blaming the DEMOCRATS for all this mess. Paulson and Bernanke are the hacks that came up with that figure. THEY work for BUSH…THE IDIOT-IN-CHIEF. REPUBLICANS controlled Congress from 1995 through 2006…fercryingoutloud! THIS freakin’ mess can be laid at THEIR feet…and apparently YOURS since you sound like a damn REPUBLICAN.

    And NO…I’m NOT an OBOT. I DETEST BO. Got that? I hate him as much as I hate BUSH…if not more…..because he has trashed the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

  • It’s Not Me

    BULLSHIT. The Democrats have been in control of Congress for LESS THAN 2 FREAKIN’ YEARS out of the last1 YEARS. The Republicans controlled the Senate, House and WH for 6 YEARS before that and controlled the Senate and House for 5 years prior to that! This is the REPUBLICAN’S freakin’ mess. This is what happens when you give unregulated, total control to greedy people with complete POWER.

  • It’s Not Me

    BULLSHIT. The Democrats have been in control of Congress for LESS THAN 2 FREAKIN’ YEARS out of the last 13 YEARS. The Republicans controlled the Senate, House and WH for 6 YEARS before that and controlled the Senate and House for 5 years prior to that! This is the REPUBLICAN’S freakin’ mess. This is what happens when you give unregulated, total control to greedy people with complete POWER.

  • sleeplessinChicago

    Geez, didn’t they get to metaphors in your jr. high English class yet?

  • Diana

    Here you go.
    Pollster says election could end in landslide
    Jill Terreri • Staff writer • September 25, 2008

    What’s this?

    One of the country’s top pollsters was in Rochester on Thursday and suggested that the November presidential election will end in an electoral landslide, even though the candidates are running close.

    “Essentially the election is at equilibrium,” said John Zogby, president of Zogby International. “This election will stay close until the end.”

    Zogby said he thinks the race will turn in the last weekend before Election Day and though the popular vote will be tight, the successful candidate will win in a landslide.
    He likened this year’s election to the contest in 1980, when Ronald Reagan defeated President Jimmy Carter.

    “This may be and probably is the most important election in our lifetime,” Zogby said. “I don’t say that lightly.”

    Despite two books by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, Americans still don’t know enough about him. And if they don’t think they know him well enough by the time they vote, they’ll go with the “comfortable old shoe,” Republican Sen. John McCain, Zogby said.

    http://tinyurl.com/3mpkhz

  • Diana

    Wasn’t that Bush’s slogan the first time he won? If you don’t trust the media vote for me. It worked. They’ve given us an even less reason to trust them this time around, they actually did some praising of Bush.

  • DancingOpossum

    Are you getting those poll numbers from garychapelhill at Riverdaughter’s blog? I saw them there this morning. Just saying, it’d be nice to credit the author–those were great finds.

  • It’s Not Me

    BULL. Deregulation was REAGAN’S BRAINCHILD. Republicans can NEVER hang THAT around Democrat’s necks. Trickle Down economics and Deregulation…BOTH Reagan’s brainchild and BOTH were/are DISASTROUS Economic Policies.

    A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS.

  • Diana

    I think they will, McCain has definitely ran a different campaign than I have ever seen. You still, even at the convention saw Hillary signs with McCain bumper stickers on them. I saw them at the last town hall. Republicans have opened their arms to those outside of the party. They’ve met with them about their concerns, etc. McCain gave Hillary her props both in the primary and since. Sarah lifted up Hillary and Geraldine. The way women should lift one another regardless of party. We may not always agree, but there are some things only a woman can understand about the struggles women go through. That’s why it really bothers me that Boxer is doing what she’s doing. I haven’t always agreed with Boxer’s agenda, but I’ve always supported her. Now I’m to the point I feel like I can no longer support her, because even though women have lifted her up, she’s now on board of the hate women train. Her and Pelosi have to go. That is not feminism.

  • Diana

    President Clinton disagrees with you. He clearly said when he was in office the Democrats fought against him doing anything. They fought against Bush doing anything in ’03. They fought against McCain and a small group of Republican senators doing anything in ’05. I think he may know a tad more about the situation then you do.

  • Diana

    You’re not very good at this are you? Any Christian would know. God is first, your family second, your country third, but you knew full well what the poster was saying. Country before Party.

  • Jane from Tx

    Well! dont underestimate the dirty tricks the Obama campaigners can pull. they made a right mess of it here in Texas. Im sure they have continued and expanded plans for more VOTER FRAUD!

  • Jane from Tx

    Great tip Rob.

  • Jane from Tx

    I believe MR. Perry is a plant. a bot

  • Jane from Tx

    hmm, I think most people would rather look at Palin than Biden any day, so I guess its going to be Biden staring out at the horizon while the rest of us connect with what Palin is saying – hopefully

  • Newly Independent

    He had a 13% lead over Hillary and she whooped his ass.

    That’s the thing:

    Obama NEVER DID have a 13% lead over Hillary in New Hampshire back in January.

    It’s just that the POLLS claimed he did!

    This is why polls are NOT to be trusted.

    Every now and then, the polls will throw a few bones our way. Like they did when McCain’s numbers went up after the Republican convention with his selection of Sarah Palin as VP. Then suddenly, McCain supporters’ faith in polls is restored. Then they go back to Obama again.

    I think that the pollsters pull these stunts to keep average Americans from getting suspicious.

    During the primary, Hillary supporters turned out in droves despite the consistent negative polling. That’s why she won the popular vote. Which is why the same clowns who are trying to cheat McCain now cheated Hillary out of the Democrat nomination. But it’s a far different dynamic now, because McCain and the Republicans have more than enough ammo and support to completely shut down Obama and the scummy Dems on Election Day.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Insiders say that Mr Obama’s apparent calm through an unusually turbulent election season

    Have you seen Obama lately? After geting his ass kicked by a 72 year old in the debate, he is anything but calm.

    When Imbibin gets shown up by the girl, mysognist Obambi is going to go ballstic.

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