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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-813228</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll reconsider, AR_DUBYA, there is a good point in castigating the 32% of Democrats that voted against the bill.

In the Bay Area these three could have helped turn the tide but did not:
Pete Stark
Barbara Lee
Lynn Woolsey

All liberal fucking Democrats, consumed, I wager, by the same pique and spite that have nearly driven No Quarter&#039;s so-called feminist liberal Democrats into the arms of the Taliban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll reconsider, AR_DUBYA, there is a good point in castigating the 32% of Democrats that voted against the bill.</p>
<p>In the Bay Area these three could have helped turn the tide but did not:<br />
Pete Stark<br />
Barbara Lee<br />
Lynn Woolsey</p>
<p>All liberal fucking Democrats, consumed, I wager, by the same pique and spite that have nearly driven No Quarter&#8217;s so-called feminist liberal Democrats into the arms of the Taliban.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-812796</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;nope. we’re pro-hillary democrats temperorily in alliance with McCain to defeat obama.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Not to mention the ranks of the Faux Femminists here who have joined the Taliban.

Tim Leary died for your sins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;nope. we’re pro-hillary democrats temperorily in alliance with McCain to defeat obama.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Not to mention the ranks of the Faux Femminists here who have joined the Taliban.</p>
<p>Tim Leary died for your sins.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-812770</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;they’ve been very good about being traitorous this election year.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Pssst........

Your shoe is ringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>they’ve been very good about being traitorous this election year.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Pssst&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Your shoe is ringing.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-812754</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;choose to ignore facts, and focus on flawed logic as some kind of rationale to keep swilling the Kool Aide.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Eisenhower is not considered to be one of our more quotable chief executives.

However, there is one quote which is (very) loosely attributed to him, a play off Kipling, that is so very apropos in your situation.

&quot;If you can keep your head when all those around you are losing theirs.

Perhaps you just don&#039;t understand the situation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;choose to ignore facts, and focus on flawed logic as some kind of rationale to keep swilling the Kool Aide.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Eisenhower is not considered to be one of our more quotable chief executives.</p>
<p>However, there is one quote which is (very) loosely attributed to him, a play off Kipling, that is so very apropos in your situation.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you can keep your head when all those around you are losing theirs.</p>
<p>Perhaps you just don&#8217;t understand the situation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-812696</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;PULLED THAT 700 BILLION FIGURE OUT OF HIS ASS&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Wakey, wakey, bright spark.

The market, that fount of all capitalist reason, yesterday sent a 1.2 Trillion (i.e., 171% of $700B, for the math-challanged) estimate of what was at stake.  The bounceback is homing in on the $700B figure.  (It shows how the system can work if there is sufficient transparancy, a point ruefully wasted on you True Believers)

Now is the perfect time to review &quot;The Commanding Heights&quot; and wallow in &lt;em&gt;Schadenfreude&lt;/em&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Since you like giving away your money, can I have some? Buy me a house, asshole.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

No, thank you.  After watching you reactionary troglodytes put round after round through your foot, I cherish the thought of you living under bridges when cardboard is unavailable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;PULLED THAT 700 BILLION FIGURE OUT OF HIS ASS&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Wakey, wakey, bright spark.</p>
<p>The market, that fount of all capitalist reason, yesterday sent a 1.2 Trillion (i.e., 171% of $700B, for the math-challanged) estimate of what was at stake.  The bounceback is homing in on the $700B figure.  (It shows how the system can work if there is sufficient transparancy, a point ruefully wasted on you True Believers)</p>
<p>Now is the perfect time to review &#8220;The Commanding Heights&#8221; and wallow in <em>Schadenfreude</em>.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Since you like giving away your money, can I have some? Buy me a house, asshole.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>No, thank you.  After watching you reactionary troglodytes put round after round through your foot, I cherish the thought of you living under bridges when cardboard is unavailable.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, right. 60% of House Democrats voted for the bill, 33% of House Republicans did. It was Republicans&#039; fault that this bill failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, right. 60% of House Democrats voted for the bill, 33% of House Republicans did. It was Republicans&#8217; fault that this bill failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-811679</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he is going to let Palin do it Thursday... :)

He asked her to run with him because she is a reformer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he is going to let Palin do it Thursday&#8230; <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>He asked her to run with him because she is a reformer.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-811589</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I saw that teenager...  he really is a fool.

ABC should be fined for their horrendously biased treatment of the news.  Charles Gibson has lost all of my respect after his creative editing and patriarchal treatment of Sarah Palin in his interview.

Thanks for bringing this up, New Hampster.  I always knew the media had some bias, but I feel that the media has crossed ethical bounds with their bias this year, and it is intolerable.  It is so bad that I think that Americans should file a class action suit against these media outlets.  They certainly need to be fined for misleading reports and violating the public&#039;s trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I saw that teenager&#8230;  he really is a fool.</p>
<p>ABC should be fined for their horrendously biased treatment of the news.  Charles Gibson has lost all of my respect after his creative editing and patriarchal treatment of Sarah Palin in his interview.</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this up, New Hampster.  I always knew the media had some bias, but I feel that the media has crossed ethical bounds with their bias this year, and it is intolerable.  It is so bad that I think that Americans should file a class action suit against these media outlets.  They certainly need to be fined for misleading reports and violating the public&#8217;s trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-811470</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a theory...

Obama has claimed to be close to Paulson and talking with him over the last few weeks, next, the treasury money starts to dry up and viola, the teetering credit driven economy is on the brink of collapse.

This whole mess stinks, and has been ignored by Paulson and Bernanke... look at the timing of the fall, it could have happened last year.

There have been warnings, even about the way consumers have been behaving.

From August &lt;strong&gt;2007&lt;/strong&gt;... Interview with James Scurlock, maker of the documentary &quot;Maxed Out&quot;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/15/AR2007081501921_pf.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;How do you think the crisis is being handled in Washington?

&lt;strong&gt;I think it&#039;s been exacerbated by people like [Federal Reserve Chairman] Ben Bernanke and [Treasury Secretary] Henry Paulson and others coming out and saying, &quot;Oh, subprime isn&#039;t contagious&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; . . . as if subprime borrowers were like lepers confined to some colony on an island and couldn&#039;t swim over and infect the rest of us. . . . Now that it has spread, the party line is &quot;The economy&#039;s strong and we&#039;ll power through this.&quot; But &lt;strong&gt;the only way you power through a crisis in our economy is by making sure people keep spending.&lt;/strong&gt; And the news this week from Wal-Mart and Home Depot is that people are starting to pull back. If you use your common sense, clearly &lt;strong&gt;if someone has been using their home equity to pay for their credit card bills, and refinancing and refinancing and refinancing to pay their bills, if they can&#039;t refinance anymore, they can&#039;t spend anymore&lt;/strong&gt;. So lo and behold, Home Depot says people won&#039;t be remodeling their kitchens. The myth of the house increasing in value every year as some kind of birthright is now being shattered, and people are realizing that maybe a Sub-Zero refrigerator isn&#039;t an investment; maybe it&#039;s just another expense.

What&#039;s next?

I don&#039;t claim to predict the future, but if you ask me to hazard a guess, the default rate for mortgages is now higher than the default rate for credit cards by quite a bit. So people are giving up their homes rather than lose their credit cards. It&#039;s a really interesting phenomenon, because the assumption was always that people would do anything to save the house. . . . But who do the banks have to blame for that [phenomenon]? All of their marketing now is &quot;Use your credit card to pay for groceries, prescription drugs, taxes and everything else.&quot; It&#039;s a huge paradigm shift.

Are credit cards the next shoe to drop?

Without question. &lt;strong&gt;One of the big problems, maybe the big problem, is that the financial services industry has redefined cash as credit.&lt;/strong&gt; They have spent billions and billions and billions of dollars teaching people that a credit card is the same as cash, that home equity is the same as cash. And of course, it&#039;s not true. . . . And people have used their credit cards as their emergency fund instead of saving. People forget that credit is not something you own. It can be taken away at any time, the terms and conditions can be changed at any time, the costs can be increased at any time. That&#039;s what companies like the Countrywide Financials and the American Home Mortgages are learning. But I think consumers are about to learn that lesson as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a theory&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama has claimed to be close to Paulson and talking with him over the last few weeks, next, the treasury money starts to dry up and viola, the teetering credit driven economy is on the brink of collapse.</p>
<p>This whole mess stinks, and has been ignored by Paulson and Bernanke&#8230; look at the timing of the fall, it could have happened last year.</p>
<p>There have been warnings, even about the way consumers have been behaving.</p>
<p>From August <strong>2007</strong>&#8230; Interview with James Scurlock, maker of the documentary &#8220;Maxed Out&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/15/AR2007081501921_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/15/AR2007081501921_pf.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>How do you think the crisis is being handled in Washington?</p>
<p><strong>I think it&#8217;s been exacerbated by people like [Federal Reserve Chairman] Ben Bernanke and [Treasury Secretary] Henry Paulson and others coming out and saying, &#8220;Oh, subprime isn&#8217;t contagious&#8221;</strong> . . . as if subprime borrowers were like lepers confined to some colony on an island and couldn&#8217;t swim over and infect the rest of us. . . . Now that it has spread, the party line is &#8220;The economy&#8217;s strong and we&#8217;ll power through this.&#8221; But <strong>the only way you power through a crisis in our economy is by making sure people keep spending.</strong> And the news this week from Wal-Mart and Home Depot is that people are starting to pull back. If you use your common sense, clearly <strong>if someone has been using their home equity to pay for their credit card bills, and refinancing and refinancing and refinancing to pay their bills, if they can&#8217;t refinance anymore, they can&#8217;t spend anymore</strong>. So lo and behold, Home Depot says people won&#8217;t be remodeling their kitchens. The myth of the house increasing in value every year as some kind of birthright is now being shattered, and people are realizing that maybe a Sub-Zero refrigerator isn&#8217;t an investment; maybe it&#8217;s just another expense.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to predict the future, but if you ask me to hazard a guess, the default rate for mortgages is now higher than the default rate for credit cards by quite a bit. So people are giving up their homes rather than lose their credit cards. It&#8217;s a really interesting phenomenon, because the assumption was always that people would do anything to save the house. . . . But who do the banks have to blame for that [phenomenon]? All of their marketing now is &#8220;Use your credit card to pay for groceries, prescription drugs, taxes and everything else.&#8221; It&#8217;s a huge paradigm shift.</p>
<p>Are credit cards the next shoe to drop?</p>
<p>Without question. <strong>One of the big problems, maybe the big problem, is that the financial services industry has redefined cash as credit.</strong> They have spent billions and billions and billions of dollars teaching people that a credit card is the same as cash, that home equity is the same as cash. And of course, it&#8217;s not true. . . . And people have used their credit cards as their emergency fund instead of saving. People forget that credit is not something you own. It can be taken away at any time, the terms and conditions can be changed at any time, the costs can be increased at any time. That&#8217;s what companies like the Countrywide Financials and the American Home Mortgages are learning. But I think consumers are about to learn that lesson as well.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re not &quot;shills,&quot; dumb dumb. We&#039;re on an anti-Obama site cheering on the Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not &#8220;shills,&#8221; dumb dumb. We&#8217;re on an anti-Obama site cheering on the Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5144/a-perfect-example-of-media-bias/#comment-809795</link>
		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Paulson was going to fix it. This was his ultra secret red-sealed emergency plan for in case the last bailouts didn&#039;t work. And he knew this would work. You know he did when he just PULLED THAT 700 BILLION FIGURE OUT OF HIS ASS. 

Since you like giving away your money, can I have some? Buy me a house, asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Paulson was going to fix it. This was his ultra secret red-sealed emergency plan for in case the last bailouts didn&#8217;t work. And he knew this would work. You know he did when he just PULLED THAT 700 BILLION FIGURE OUT OF HIS ASS. </p>
<p>Since you like giving away your money, can I have some? Buy me a house, asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she happened to be a Florida or Michigan voter, that would just be icing on the cake... or lipstick on the pig... or, oh, I give up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she happened to be a Florida or Michigan voter, that would just be icing on the cake&#8230; or lipstick on the pig&#8230; or, oh, I give up!</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi&#039;s job is to have her votes lined up, especially on a bill that is supposedly so critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi&#8217;s job is to have her votes lined up, especially on a bill that is supposedly so critical.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My great-grandmother lived to be 101 years old and raised 13 children through the Depression. One of them, my grandfather, made nearly a billion dollars through real estate and life insurance. And their family never took handouts. My grandfather is famously parsimonious, but he is active in his Methodist church and gives quite a lot to charity. And votes as religiously for small government. His mother never kept her money in a bank her whole life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My great-grandmother lived to be 101 years old and raised 13 children through the Depression. One of them, my grandfather, made nearly a billion dollars through real estate and life insurance. And their family never took handouts. My grandfather is famously parsimonious, but he is active in his Methodist church and gives quite a lot to charity. And votes as religiously for small government. His mother never kept her money in a bank her whole life.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look how many Americans have been burning up the phone lines protesting this bailout. Congress and Paulson and Bush insist it&#039;s for the good of the nation, but no one believes any of them. No one has any faith in our government anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look how many Americans have been burning up the phone lines protesting this bailout. Congress and Paulson and Bush insist it&#8217;s for the good of the nation, but no one believes any of them. No one has any faith in our government anymore.</p>
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