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		<title>By: Prokopios</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-24159</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokopios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice</description>
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		<title>By: Paulos</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-21300</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool...</description>
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		<title>By: Salmo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12302</link>
		<dc:creator>Salmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep!  The strongest medicine for the body politic is what is needed for this plague.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep!  The strongest medicine for the body politic is what is needed for this plague.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Sanders(I-Vermont) is speaking to similar needs at home on the Floor right now. Health care, education, equitable wages are all priorities of equal merit that can be unified in their goal towards a better future.

We take these ideas and make them part of America&#039;s policy at home, then countries wanting to work toward similar goals can join in this. 

Across this front we will garner more allies vs. state sponsors or rogue groups.

If we do not guard the flame of human rights and humanitarian endeavors we lose the moral high ground. Lebanon has seen Hezbollah do more in NGO/relief/ social governance as a political party than its own challenged governing infrastructure can do. How alarming the realities of post Rumsfeld doctrine have become in the decades after Beruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Sanders(I-Vermont) is speaking to similar needs at home on the Floor right now. Health care, education, equitable wages are all priorities of equal merit that can be unified in their goal towards a better future.</p>
<p>We take these ideas and make them part of America&#8217;s policy at home, then countries wanting to work toward similar goals can join in this. </p>
<p>Across this front we will garner more allies vs. state sponsors or rogue groups.</p>
<p>If we do not guard the flame of human rights and humanitarian endeavors we lose the moral high ground. Lebanon has seen Hezbollah do more in NGO/relief/ social governance as a political party than its own challenged governing infrastructure can do. How alarming the realities of post Rumsfeld doctrine have become in the decades after Beruit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, the closing statement still holds true. Placing self ahead of the direction a country is headed is what we must see happen. 

The new leaders must get in front of this new model. We must anticipate and get in front of this new model to unite our hopes and interests past nationality or politization.

This is done in a sense of loyalty to our highest values. We&#039;ve seen others in the NGO model(Kissinger, GH Venture partners, etc.) do this for their own gain and leave behind the ideals that muist be part of the new infrastructure.

Wilson will know best how to do this in ways that uplift our unified vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, the closing statement still holds true. Placing self ahead of the direction a country is headed is what we must see happen. </p>
<p>The new leaders must get in front of this new model. We must anticipate and get in front of this new model to unite our hopes and interests past nationality or politization.</p>
<p>This is done in a sense of loyalty to our highest values. We&#8217;ve seen others in the NGO model(Kissinger, GH Venture partners, etc.) do this for their own gain and leave behind the ideals that muist be part of the new infrastructure.</p>
<p>Wilson will know best how to do this in ways that uplift our unified vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12299</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;other information&quot; that Bushco. whines about was their own stovepipe that was being kicked down everywhere else.

As for the civil trial, burden of proof is different, and it&#039;s quite clear the Libby jurors thought many others were as/more guilty above Libby.

The war pig contractor graft will get redistributed after all. 

The Wilsons know how to best work in the spirit and faith of our best interests. They will be an NGO in their own right that helps mend some of these wounds, restore faith in the rule of law, and expand the scope of effective governance for those countries we need to help fight against the terror threat.

They&#039;ll do it in ways that satisfy the demands the rest of our planet has for civility. Mankind can come together in peaceful terms. As we reinforce the fabric of shared interests on equitable terms we will win this. They know from their calling to duty how to do this and employ security as a method and means instead of to an end.

The reason terrorism seems so tough a battle is that it&#039;s uphill. If we level the playing field in fundamental terms the market dynamics change. Conflict requires deep underlying tension, ones that equity best help to dissolve.

The Wilsons can be a shining light towards better policy, even far past the auspice of Albright doctrine.

There are people the world around ready to engage this new trend. Shared common principle, transition economies, technology all will find a nexus within an emerging new society. One that outshines our differences which before could overshadow dialog. This new light and language will bring together the highest aspects of our era.

The best and the brightest will have their day. This is a new era reborn. Individuals will bear the mantle of leadership to new levels.

Ambassador Wilson&#039;s courage and ethics model this new paradigm. Persons willing to put self ahead of country in calls to service within public office, private industry, geopolitical and ecopolitical profiles in courage. 

Keepers of the flame, bring forward your dreams, your words, your passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;other information&#8221; that Bushco. whines about was their own stovepipe that was being kicked down everywhere else.</p>
<p>As for the civil trial, burden of proof is different, and it&#8217;s quite clear the Libby jurors thought many others were as/more guilty above Libby.</p>
<p>The war pig contractor graft will get redistributed after all. </p>
<p>The Wilsons know how to best work in the spirit and faith of our best interests. They will be an NGO in their own right that helps mend some of these wounds, restore faith in the rule of law, and expand the scope of effective governance for those countries we need to help fight against the terror threat.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll do it in ways that satisfy the demands the rest of our planet has for civility. Mankind can come together in peaceful terms. As we reinforce the fabric of shared interests on equitable terms we will win this. They know from their calling to duty how to do this and employ security as a method and means instead of to an end.</p>
<p>The reason terrorism seems so tough a battle is that it&#8217;s uphill. If we level the playing field in fundamental terms the market dynamics change. Conflict requires deep underlying tension, ones that equity best help to dissolve.</p>
<p>The Wilsons can be a shining light towards better policy, even far past the auspice of Albright doctrine.</p>
<p>There are people the world around ready to engage this new trend. Shared common principle, transition economies, technology all will find a nexus within an emerging new society. One that outshines our differences which before could overshadow dialog. This new light and language will bring together the highest aspects of our era.</p>
<p>The best and the brightest will have their day. This is a new era reborn. Individuals will bear the mantle of leadership to new levels.</p>
<p>Ambassador Wilson&#8217;s courage and ethics model this new paradigm. Persons willing to put self ahead of country in calls to service within public office, private industry, geopolitical and ecopolitical profiles in courage. </p>
<p>Keepers of the flame, bring forward your dreams, your words, your passion.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Watt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12298</link>
		<dc:creator>1Watt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is alway a slim hope:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030707A.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030707A.shtml&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is alway a slim hope:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030707A.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030707A.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12297</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll name three for starters.  The charge that Joe Wilson said Vice President Cheney sent him to Niger.  FACT:  Joe never said such a thing.
The claim that Valerie was just an analyst and not covert.  FACT:  Valerie was undercover from the first day she walked into CIA in September of 1985 and remained in that status until Robert Novak&#039;s article appeared.
The claim that Joe Wilson&#039;s report indicated Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from NIGER.  FACT:  Joe&#039;s report to the CIA, which was put into a TD, made clear that there was no credible evidence that Iraq had acquired or could acquire yellowcake uranium.  Title of the TD makes this quite clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll name three for starters.  The charge that Joe Wilson said Vice President Cheney sent him to Niger.  FACT:  Joe never said such a thing.<br />
The claim that Valerie was just an analyst and not covert.  FACT:  Valerie was undercover from the first day she walked into CIA in September of 1985 and remained in that status until Robert Novak&#8217;s article appeared.<br />
The claim that Joe Wilson&#8217;s report indicated Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from NIGER.  FACT:  Joe&#8217;s report to the CIA, which was put into a TD, made clear that there was no credible evidence that Iraq had acquired or could acquire yellowcake uranium.  Title of the TD makes this quite clear.</p>
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		<title>By: goldwater</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12296</link>
		<dc:creator>goldwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jack Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Three reporters heard her say what sounded like, &#039;We&#039;re gonna (expletive) &#039;em.&#039;&quot;

Do you think she meant:

1. The godless, America-hating media;
2. The cabal that put ScooterPie on trial?
3. Cheney and Shrubbie, for throwing Libby under the bus?

Always nice to hear a classy Republican woman stand firmly by her man, isn&#039;t it?

Of course, the verdict will change her life. Might have to let some of the help go; drink screw top wine from Safeway instead of Montrachet; stay at a location Not In Keeping with her Station in Life when the family vacations in Aspen instead of Gstaad. 

One last question: was she wearing her Elizabeth Dole style red blazer (de rigeur for GOP women) when she said this? 

LAST OBSERVATION ON THE VEDICT: This verdict guarantees a bountiful supply of material for the Hot Air Echo Chamber (Limbaugh, Ingraham, Boortz, Fox News, Novak, American Enterprise Institute, Heritage Foundation, the Moonie papers, et al) for the next decade. Scaiffe must be doing the Neo-Nazi Macarena right now (probably has one of the Coors clan on the phone), as he searches for some new bottom feeders to dig up the dirt on Fitzgerald.

A new &quot;Arkansas Project&quot; is probably a-borning, even as we speak...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;Three reporters heard her say what sounded like, &#8216;We&#8217;re gonna (expletive) &#8216;em.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think she meant:</p>
<p>1. The godless, America-hating media;<br />
2. The cabal that put ScooterPie on trial?<br />
3. Cheney and Shrubbie, for throwing Libby under the bus?</p>
<p>Always nice to hear a classy Republican woman stand firmly by her man, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Of course, the verdict will change her life. Might have to let some of the help go; drink screw top wine from Safeway instead of Montrachet; stay at a location Not In Keeping with her Station in Life when the family vacations in Aspen instead of Gstaad. </p>
<p>One last question: was she wearing her Elizabeth Dole style red blazer (de rigeur for GOP women) when she said this? </p>
<p>LAST OBSERVATION ON THE VEDICT: This verdict guarantees a bountiful supply of material for the Hot Air Echo Chamber (Limbaugh, Ingraham, Boortz, Fox News, Novak, American Enterprise Institute, Heritage Foundation, the Moonie papers, et al) for the next decade. Scaiffe must be doing the Neo-Nazi Macarena right now (probably has one of the Coors clan on the phone), as he searches for some new bottom feeders to dig up the dirt on Fitzgerald.</p>
<p>A new &#8220;Arkansas Project&#8221; is probably a-borning, even as we speak&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graybeard</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12294</link>
		<dc:creator>Graybeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Larry. Let&#039;s not be distracted by the speculation of a pardon. Whether Libby spends twenty years, or two minutes in jail, it pales in importance compared to digging deeper into this cesspool of gangsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Larry. Let&#8217;s not be distracted by the speculation of a pardon. Whether Libby spends twenty years, or two minutes in jail, it pales in importance compared to digging deeper into this cesspool of gangsters.</p>
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		<title>By: Pvt. Keepout</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12293</link>
		<dc:creator>Pvt. Keepout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Pvt.Keepout, Wed 7Mar07 @ 10:07

Correction. Matryoshka, not Kachina, doll. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Pvt.Keepout, Wed 7Mar07 @ 10:07</p>
<p>Correction. Matryoshka, not Kachina, doll. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12292</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody on one of my mailing lists just sent this doozie of a quote from today&#039;s WaPo:

[QUOTE] Libby&#039;s wife, Harriet Grant, was not as composed. In the first row of spectators, she hunched over and shook. A young member of Libby&#039;s defense team put his arm around her shoulders. After judge and jury left, Grant went over to hug her husband with a furious look on her face. Three reporters heard her say what sounded like, &quot;We&#039;re gonna (expletive) &#039;em.&quot; [END QUOTE]

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030601998.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030601998.html&lt;/a&gt;

And just how does she think they&#039;re going to f--k them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody on one of my mailing lists just sent this doozie of a quote from today&#8217;s WaPo:</p>
<p>[QUOTE] Libby&#8217;s wife, Harriet Grant, was not as composed. In the first row of spectators, she hunched over and shook. A young member of Libby&#8217;s defense team put his arm around her shoulders. After judge and jury left, Grant went over to hug her husband with a furious look on her face. Three reporters heard her say what sounded like, &#8220;We&#8217;re gonna (expletive) &#8216;em.&#8221; [END QUOTE]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030601998.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030601998.html</a></p>
<p>And just how does she think they&#8217;re going to f&#8211;k them?</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12291</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did impeachment cease to be a legitimate tool for ensuring accountability in government, and become transformed into the &#039;I&#039; word?  Is it the fear of being seen as bad as the Clinton lynchers?

My general education experience, such as it is, led me to believe that the founders, as an acknowledgement that they couldn&#039;t predict all possibilities of executive excess, created the impeachment process as a last resort catch all, for times when the usual process of 3-branch accountability doesn&#039;t work.

We can easily tell that we&#039;re long past the point of being able to work with the current executive branch, because they tell us so in their own words; by proclaiming that the opinions and legal authority of others just don&#039;t matter.  Any agenda is just a lie/cheat/steal away.  Any law they want to bypass is just a signing statement away.

And then instead of impeachment being the last resort, we hear that it&#039;s &#039;off the table&#039;.  My response to that is, how about unresponsive representatives being off the ballot?

What makes congress think they can effectively exercise any of their legislative authority, while they&#039;re being pissed on?  Sounds like they&#039;re hopelessly and arrogantly clinging to their fantasy of importance.

Let&#039;s hope that they wake up and hear the barbarians at the gate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did impeachment cease to be a legitimate tool for ensuring accountability in government, and become transformed into the &#8216;I&#8217; word?  Is it the fear of being seen as bad as the Clinton lynchers?</p>
<p>My general education experience, such as it is, led me to believe that the founders, as an acknowledgement that they couldn&#8217;t predict all possibilities of executive excess, created the impeachment process as a last resort catch all, for times when the usual process of 3-branch accountability doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>We can easily tell that we&#8217;re long past the point of being able to work with the current executive branch, because they tell us so in their own words; by proclaiming that the opinions and legal authority of others just don&#8217;t matter.  Any agenda is just a lie/cheat/steal away.  Any law they want to bypass is just a signing statement away.</p>
<p>And then instead of impeachment being the last resort, we hear that it&#8217;s &#8216;off the table&#8217;.  My response to that is, how about unresponsive representatives being off the ballot?</p>
<p>What makes congress think they can effectively exercise any of their legislative authority, while they&#8217;re being pissed on?  Sounds like they&#8217;re hopelessly and arrogantly clinging to their fantasy of importance.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope that they wake up and hear the barbarians at the gate.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabby</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/516/next-steps-in-plamegate/#comment-12290</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody every wonder if Valerie was outed because once Cheney found out she worked on WMD and Iran which was the next target for the Bush crime family
they needed to end that work?
It was a two-fer for them.
Stop the criticism on Iraq
and future information on Iran?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody every wonder if Valerie was outed because once Cheney found out she worked on WMD and Iran which was the next target for the Bush crime family<br />
they needed to end that work?<br />
It was a two-fer for them.<br />
Stop the criticism on Iraq<br />
and future information on Iran?</p>
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