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Investor’s Business Daily and “The Audacity of Socialism”

By Uppity Woman on October 1, 2008 at 4:59 AM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Hoodwinking

A commenter named “galsdownsouth” just gave me Gold. Investor’s Business Daily has an entire series on Barack Obama, including Audios of their series entitled, “The Audacity Of Socialism”. The entire catalogue of revealing essays and their audio links can be found here.

Please take the time to look over their 18-part eye-opener.

In Part 1, they discuss “Barack Obama’s Stealth Socialism”.

During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. “I’ve been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served,” he said at the group’s 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.

And as president, “we’ll ensure that economic justice is served,” he asserted. “That’s what this election is about.” Obama never spelled out the meaning of the term, but he didn’t have to. His audience knew what he meant, judging from its thumping approval.

It’s the rest of the public that remains in the dark, which is why we’re launching this special educational series.

“Economic justice” simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It’s a euphemism for socialism.

You can hear the rest on audio here.

You can read the rest of this piece here.

There is a total of 18 advancing articles with audios on Barack Obama and the threat of Socialism at the catalog link above.

Mr. Natural

- from the IBD article:

As a Nairobi bureaucrat, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Harvard-educated economist, grew to challenge the ruling pro-Western government for not being socialist enough. In an eight-page scholarly paper published in 1965, he argued for eliminating private farming and nationalizing businesses “owned by Asians and Europeans.”

His ideas for communist-style expropriation didn’t stop there. He also proposed massive taxes on the rich to “redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all.”

“Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed,” Obama Sr. wrote. “I do not see why the government cannot tax those who have more and syphon some of these revenues into savings which can be utilized in investment for future development.”

No – We Can’t!

drkate

The trojan candidate! Planned a long time ago. he’ been groomed.

Anonymous

Get real: Socialism isn’t communism. A little bit of redistribution wouldn’t hurt the US.

Truthteller

Then give me the Rezko mansion and Michelle Obama’s salary increase.

Anonymous

The basic premise behind redistribution is forget about “me first”…

http://www.deadenders.wordpress.com scott in jupiter

Says the guy with no name.
MMI

If you want to forget about yourself and give to others, no one is stopping you. Don’t use government to make everyone do the same.

Socialism is taking other people’s money to fund social programs you like, and denying people the funds to pay for things they want.

It sacrifices individual liberties and responsibilities for the “greater” good as determined by a selected few. It shields the individual from the consequences of his follies leaving the burdens of those things to the masses. Therefore, it encourages bad behavior. It denies the individual the fruit of his labor and talents, giving them to the masses. Therefore, it discourages hard work and deprives society of ingenuity and creativity.

Pennsylvania goes RED!

That’s the fly in the ointment with socialist figureheads…they redistribute everyone else’s wealth but somehow manage to hold on to their own.
tzada

heh….
tzada

Look at this….. No surprise here. They are feeling confident enough for him to come in out of the cold.

Soros floats alternative bailout plan with Dems

The billionaire financier George Soros, a major Democratic financial backer, is floating his own rescue plan among Democratic lawmakers who are uncertain what to do in the wake of a surprise defeat of a proposed $700 billion rescue package proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

Soros has outlined his plan in an opinion editorial in the Financial Times and circulated a concept paper among decision-makers.

Specifically, the liberal philanthropist has proposed that government funds should be used to recapitalize the American banking system by purchasing equity in banks and investment firms.

Was this not # 5 in Karl Marx plan?

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/soros-floats-alternative-bailout-plan-with-dems-2008-09-30.html

Maverick

It is unclear whether Soros entry onto the debris-strewn field of the debate will help lawmakers reach agreement on an alternative proposal or further anger House Republicans.
Soros is a bogeyman among many Republicans. He clashed famously with former Republican Speaker Dennis Hastert (Ill.).
During the 2004 election Hastert questioned the source of Soros’s wealth and suggested it could have links to the drug trade.

Soros’s plan could find favor among members of the Congressional Black Caucus, many of whom voted against the Paulson-based plan Monday

excerpts from thehill.com/leading-the-news/soros-floats-alternative-bailout-plan-with-dems-2008-09-30.html

Jackie

Then share what you have. I am doing all I can to keep body and soul together and prepare for retirement. I have another child to put through college.

I have no problem with sharing but I want to share with whom I choose not whom Barack Obama Chooses.

Redistribution doesn’t work ever anywhere. Look at ZImbabwe. Look at the former East Germany.

GAAAAA
Maverick

Economic justice” simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It’s a euphemism for socialism.

Would Geraldine Ferraro say what most people are thinking again? Economic justice means take from the ~~hard working~~ whites and give to the ~~slacker~~ blacks.
athena

Oh can I have some of the 4.2 million BO made last year. Pweeeze….. He made 1.7 million the year before – he can afford it!
NoBamaNoWay

the problem is the initial distribution in the first place. workers are not being compensated fairly for their labor. every year corporate profits go up while worker wages reamin stagnant. the “redistribution” is already occurring – it is from the bottom to the top. one should be careful about these issues; we definitely want to reward WORK; but those who do not work (able-bodied people) should not be rewarded with a lifetime on the dole at everyone else’s expense.

rapp

Isn’t Obama’s plan the same one that Mugabe is doing in Zimbabwe? Don’t they have hyper-inflation because of it? They can’t stabilize their money.

Anonymous

Don’t confuse BHO sr. and BHO jr.

rapp

Obama wants to take from the rich and give to the poor, redistribution of wealth. That is what Zimbabwe did, they took from the rich whites to give to the poor blacks. They had a thriving economy, not great. Now look at it.

Anonymous

They redistributed without any measure because racism was the main driving force. And they took away everything from the whites and kicked them out. Hardly a true measuring stick.

Thoughtful redistribution is a positive and stabilizing thing for any economy. What are the so called bailouts? Just another form of redistribution.

Truthteller

Funneling tax payer dollars to Rezko’s slum landlord empire and ultimately to the Obama mansion was also a form of redistribution. And Obama’s earmark requests for his wife’s employer, who then awarded Michelle Obama with a salary increase, is also a form of redistribution.

Give me the Rezko mansion and the salary increase of Michelle Obama, and then, perhaps, I will discuss redistribution’s ability to stabilize the economy.

Anonymous

As I wrote elsewhere, the thought is a good one, BHO redistributing the money is not a good idea.

NObama Anti-American

BHO Jr IS BY FAR THE WORST OF THE TWO.

http://deleted Buzz Latte

At least Obama SR had the grace to leave the planet and not spew anymore poison.

Maverick

Not confused. They are one and the same. Mack Daddy’s. haahaha

Irish1139

You don’t believe that those wealthy 5% are going to continue to live in the USA do you? This place will look like Cuba in five years.

Anonymous

you mean filled with great baseball players and boxers?

Terry

Adios amigo.

rapp

Didn’t Cuba have a socailist economy before the revolution, the rich and the poor? They revolted and they went further left to communism. I guess the revolution failed for the people.

http://perrylogan.org/ Perry Logan

The athor is dead wrong about the meaning of the word “socialism.”

Socialism is not synonymous with dictatorship or even central control. Socialism includes sidewalks, public libraries, and the military. No nation would last five minutes withot socialism.

Anonymous

The real problem here is that Americans only know right or wrong, black or white, liberty or dictatorship. A bit of socialism wouldn’t hurt the US at the moment and it would allow the whole country to get on stronger footing again – because at the moment it’s falling apart at the seams.

Perry Logan

It will scare conservatives to know that Americans are actually DEMANDING more socialism.

A vast majority of Americans want a universal health care system. Most Americans want more gun control. Most Americans want the government to do more about the economy, to regulate businesses more firmly, and to take a more active role in many areas. Americans want more socialism.

Anonymous

But it would be something new for America, a break with its own history so to say. That’s why a lot of people are scared. To be honest with the resources of the US that could be a thriving country. But in reality its infrastructure is in shambles, its military is wasted and its economy is suffering.

I think McCain would have a great chance to get elected if he would visualize his vision of change more clearly. I think he could break a middle ground between conservatives and lefties.

Perry Logan

The New Deal reduced the poverty rate in America from over 50% to around 20%. The Republicans have never forgiven the Democrats for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

oh hell perry…don’t stop there…go back to slavery and point out that the republicans are pissed that we freed the slaves and increased the price of cotton.

Unicorns and Rainbows perry, unicorns and rainbows.

Perry Logan

LBJ’s War on Poverty reduced the poverty rate even further—to the lowest rate in history. Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

which war on poverty was that perry?

Was it the Vietnam war?

The one where they DRAFTED people?

You don’t think DRAFTING PEOPLE INTO THE MILITARY had anything to do with reducing unemployment and poverty?

Johnson’s popularity as President steadily declined after the 1966 Congressional elections, and his reelection bid in the 1968 United States presidential election collapsed as a result of turmoil within the Democratic party related to opposition to the Vietnam War.

OUCH!!
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

Once the War On Poverty began poverty rates stopped declining.

jangles

I believe the Republicans freed the slaves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

i was hoping to trap Perry on that one…good going for spilling the beans.
Perry Logan

I’ll give you Lincoln. But the fact that 90% of black Americans are Democrats suggests things have changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Yes. Because Martin Luther King was a republican yet the Democrats fooled the AA community into leaving the republican party during the civil rights movement…now tell us how they did it perry.

lets see how honest you can be about it.
jvsp

Ever heard of the Southern Democrats? Racism LOL!

B. Giguere

There is credible historical evidence that the New Deal actually made things worse, however well-intentioned. The catastropically high taxes made poverty cut deeper and last longer, in part because those people already couldn’t afford to get by, and partly because the job market couldn’t grow and create jobs because they were so financially crippled. There is a very good academic article by Jim Powell you might care to read:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Yes as an american i want more government bigger government intrusive government…you are right…

I want government to tell me how to run my business…

…to tell me what diseases i can have cured and what ones can only be cost effectively managed…

…to tell me what religion i can practice…

…what guns i can purchase…

…and i want government to teach my children to sing the praises of Dear Leader…

Thanks Perry, if it wasn’t for your incredible epiphany that Americans WANT MORE SOCIALISM I would have lived the rest of my life in ignorance.

I see the Light Perry…OMG I AM SO BURSTING WITH THIS NEW KNOWLEDGE that I Think i just farted Hope and it Left a big pile of Change in my pants!!!!

Perry Logan

Most Americans disagree with you. They want more government:

The latest survey of the National Election Studies (NES) shows, for example, a preference for a vigorous government role in a complex world. Sixty-seven percent said we need a strong government to handle complex economic problems. Nearly 58 percent said government should be doing more, not less; and 59 percent agreed that government has grown because the country’s problems have grown.

http://mediamatters.org/progmaj/report

rapp

Strong government is different than big government. Most people want smaller government, less intrusive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

but by extension doesn’t that directly indicate that if the country had less problems the people would want less government?

Also linking MediaMatters.Org as a reference on socialism is like Linking Hannibal Lector as a proponent of Eating More Red Meat.

You kind of blew your postion with a highly questionable source that is clearly in the tank for more socialism.

Rainbows and Unicorns Perry.
workingclass artist

Perry most folks want COMPETENT AND HONEST GOVERNMENT….Aaaaand like many other things….it aint’ always about SIZE….

Perry Logan

If you want smaller government, vote Democratic.

(This excludes Obama, of course, who is a total bummer.)

Democrats usually beat Republicans at their own small-government game. In fact, over the last century, the government has grown much less under Democrats than under Republicans. Two Democratic Presidents—Truman and Clinton—actually made the Federal government smaller!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

EEK. perry…you are going to get struck by lightning if you go outside after lying like that.

Almost every government expansion of note has occured while democrats controlled the government.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/ Truthteller

I love you, Jeremiah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

why what did it do this time?

Perry Logan

You can lead a Jeremiah to water, but you can’t make him drink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

I saw what they did to Hillary & Bill Perry.

I wouldn’t trust water from party democrats.
Perry Logan

I saw what they did, too. That’s why I’m here.

But being mad at some Democrats doesn’t make all Democrats bad from the beginning of time. This would definitely be a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
athena

Same goes for the Republicans…

athena

Not this one……I don’t want more socialism. I want less.

Maverick

Impeach Pelosi. Problems solved!
http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

“Americans only know right or wrong, black or white, liberty or dictatorship.”

ONE:
About 50% of us are comfortable with ambiguity. The other half simply cannot countenance it. Thus half of us cannot deal with the world as it is.

TWO:
By definition, half the population is of below average intelligence.

THREE:
Local control of education entrenches rural and regional idiocy.

FOUR:
Peer group pressure discourages inquiry or curiosity.

1+2+3+4= George W. Bush and the electorate that put him into office twice.

This is a hole the nation will not climb out of in the foreseeable future. You have and are now raising ignorant children.

We are fucked.

rapp

Fannie and Freddie are socialist organizations, aren’t they? Isn’t that what caused the crisis? They weren’t part of the free market system.

Anonymous

No the problem at Fannie and Freddie was that you had corrupt executives taking on more risk than allowed. Problem was that no one did anything against it until it was too late. They gambled and it wasn’t even their own money.

OhioMary

Would that be Mr. Raines who is the adviser to the Obama campaign?
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

The risk was mandated by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

oh my and who pray tell pushed through that act.

The CRA was passed by the 95th United States Congress and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter in 1977 as a result of national pressure for affordable housing, and despite considerable opposition from the mainstream banking community.[2] The CRA mandates that each banking institution be evaluated to determine if it has met the credit needs of its entire community. That record is taken into account when the federal government considers an institution’s application for deposit facilities, including mergers and acquisitions after the Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994 repealed restrictions on interstate banking.[2]

The Act charged the Federal Reserve System to implement the CRA through ensuring banks and savings and loans met their CRA obligations.[2] The CRA is also enforced by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (“FDIC”) CRA Statute. However, until 1995 the Act was laxly enforced and banks only were required to advertise in local minority newspapers or sit on the boards of local community groups.[3][unreliable source?] Community groups only slowly organized to take advantage of their right to complain about law enforcement of the regulations.[4]

street_parade

Well someone *cough* John McCain *cough* did try in 2005. But the Democrats wanted the gravy train to keep-a-rolling. Which it did, until it didn’t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

What caused this crisis was Fannie Freddie and the Democrats Regulating the banking/Mortgage industry with heavy penalties if they didnt make loans to minorities and poor people.

This forced lenders to lower their standards of what constitutes a good borrower.

Democrats guaranteed it with Freddie Fannie and Ginnie saying lower standards are good enough for them and they will buy those mortgages.

SO the banks had no choice. Either Lower standards to fannie freddie ginnie levels and make subprime loans available to people that they normally wouldn’t or face have penalties from the Government.

This ofcourse led to predatory lending.

Aka who cares if its a shit Loan its good enough for fannie freddie

and you know the rest.
Maverick

The crisis is caused by CORRUPTION from the top down! Make no mistake about it. Throwing money at the problem while keeping the same corrupt DemocRAT officials ~~running the show~~ not doing their job is a big mistake. IMPEACH! Pelosi and her gang are in it for their own personal gain and that is how we end up in this mess!

sammie

It seems odd that someone so in favor of economic justice and income redistribution has a history of being so stingy with his own charitable donations. I guess he’s more generous when he’s spending the tax payers’ money.

The rich always find ways to avoid taxes, so somehow I see this economic justice as taking from higher income middle class Americans and giving to the poor (well, in theory the money will be for the poor, but in practice much will be syphoned off to corrupt politically connected entities and individuals). The Chicago way on a national level.

Anonymous

I think thoughtful redistribution is a good thing.

I think BHO handling the redistribution task is a very bad thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

I dont recall which great thinker said this but it was along the lines of it doesn’t matter if you redistribute all the wealth, within a very finite space of time it will end up back in the hands of those who had it before.

The solution is not givng every man a fish for his daily meal. Its teaching every man to fish for himself.

wodiej

exactly, poor people have poor ways. It goes back to being accountable. They aren’t responsible with themselves or with their money. So it won’t matter how much they have. When you place more importance on crack and twinkies then you do paying your light bill or getting new tires for your car, the problem isn’t just about money. It’s about educating people and making them be accountable for themselves. And as long as the government keeps helping them without asking for anything in return, it won’t change.

Shiloh

The paradox lies in government’s supposed desire to reduce poverty by making poverty more comfortable.
ACT

Nelson Rockefeller said it

bemused

Haven’t the Chinese had several redistributions? (before the Communist one) and the wealth always ends up reconcentrated in the hands of a few. Look at them now, still there are rich ones and very poor ones.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

Yeah. What we need are benevolent redistributors who will do it right.

As soon as as you find those paragons of virtue please point them out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

I would like to nominate…myself. All your Mutual Funds are belongs to me!

Maverick

BHO will redistribute it to Kenya and his own Bank account. That’s all folks. Ask Oprah to redistribute her dough. Oh, that’s right, it’s only redistribution of white people’s money to blacks..oh

Well I’ll be damned if I have to support this. Not many are going to keep their money here. This is bad.
http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

Welcome to my world.

http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

Per Obama campaign directives, media is telling us today that rookie Biden has little chance against formidable Sarah
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/joe-attacked-by-damsel/

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

It is worse than that. The debate moderator has a pro Obama book coming out:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/10/palinbiden-debate-moderator-author-of.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Everyone make sure to set your tivo’s on record mode…I hear Joe Biden is bringing a gun to this knife fight.

Pennsylvania goes RED!

I saw Sarah on TV this a.m., part of the Couric interview. Couric asked Palin if it is sexist to ask Palin about her qualifications for office.

Palin’s response: It would be sexist if you didn’t inquire about my qualifications.

(Has Katie ever asked B0 if it is considered racist to question his qualifications?)

wodiej

ha, good response Sarah!!

Maverick

He washed up and senile. He is sooo out of touch.

Shiloh

Anonymous, how about explaining the difference between “thoughtful redistribution” and what I suppose would be thoughtless redistribution?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Thoughtful redistribution…What’s yours is mine.

Thoughtless redistribution…What’s mine is yours.

Maverick

Thoughtful redistribution= rob from the rich to give to the poor and some wealthy black friends too.

Thoughtful redistribution=what’s yours is mine. What’s mine is mine.

Perry Logan

An example of thoughtful redistribution of wealth would be the Clinton Administration, when income rose at all levels, the poverty rate for African Americans dropped to its lowest level in history, and the poverty rate for Hispanics fell to its lowest level since 1979.

An example of “thoughtless redistribution of wealth” would be the Bush II Administration, duirng which poverty has increased and income inequality has reached Gilded Age levels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Imagine that, Bill the racist did so much for the African American Community but damn if they didn’t chuck him to the curb when Barky Born Because of Selma Alabama showed up.

Thats unfortunately still not thoughful redistribution.

The wealth of the rich did not decrease as the wealth of the poor increased.

Everybody benefitted from the economic expansions started in the Reagan adminstration, carried through the bush administration and that came to full fruition in the Clinton years.

Thats not thoughtful redistribution thats economic prosperity.
street_parade

I would characterize that more as a “rising tide lifts all boats.” Which is the kind of economy I like to see.

wodiej

Redistribution is BULLSHIT. You work for what you want period. This shit of giving away just because someone thinks they deserve it or the color of their skin. You know what? I think I deserve more than I get paid too but that doesn’t mean I am going to get it. Is this redistribution going to benefit white women too or just black people? I don’t want any hand outs, I’ll work for what I get, thank you.

Shiloh

We have redistributive policies and have for years. The rich already pay most of the taxes for example. Many services are income based for eligibility. Conservatives were warning about creeping socialism 40 years ago.

And even though I am not really a liberal, I agree that this is a wealthy nation that should not have the poverty we do have in pockets. I think everyone should have access to health care and housing. And I think that should be doable without damaging the economy or stifling incentive.

BUT when I look at the efforts of liberal government programs – FAIL. The global poverty rate according to UN data has been cut in half since 1980. The US poverty rate remains unchanged since the war on poverty began in the early 60s. Now why is that? Maybe it’s because government programs and the people who end up running them suck and are really only in it for themselves. Obama is a community organizer who cares about economic justice but he has a million dollar house on a sweetheart mortgage and his racist wife has a 300k plus non-job at the University of Chicago. That’s the kind of economic justice we get when we buy into tax the rich redistribution bullshit rhetoric.

Economic justice means you get what you earn. Social justice means some of it gets redistributed to those unable to earn enough on their own. I’m all for that as soon as we get the government suck out!

ford

I don’t mind if people want to lose thier own money…it’s America, I just don’t want to be the one that gives them MY money to lose.

There is an absence of political authority in America…no one person is leading and the Pelosi armada is in the tank for ACORN and other groups that are just as bad as the Wall St. people…except the ACORN people want to steal my vote too.

I am full of contempt for both parties.

I’ve been an independent since 1990, but I have never felt worse about the people in government getting anything done…except with Katrina…

MORE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE ANSWER..at least not with the kooks in now.

I think Obama would make everything WORSE. He is a snake oil salesman…and the young children singing reminded me of my trip to China this year…they had that DICTATOR look on their face…I showed it to my family, and the first thing they said was EEEWWWHHH.
wodiej

What I think about the VP debate moderator….I think she is going to be the one to embarrass herself along w Joe Biden. Most intelligent people do not expect Sarah Palin to do as well as Joe Biden who has been in the Senate for 20+ years. They will expect a moderator to act like they have some sense as well as Biden. I think people supporting Obama are so delusional with their support that they make themselves look bad when they start drooling and getting defensive. No, I think Governor Palin will do just fine. Moderator, not so much. Her bias will be showing…like the Emperor w no clothes….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Interview Question #3 leaked:

Senator Biden, what have you learned about the american people as you traveled these 50 states this election season.

Mrs Palin, Name all 50 states in alphabetical order please.

http://www.deadenders.wordpress.com scott in jupiter

Name all 57-60 states.

tzada

Gwen cannot control the disgust, contempt and hatred for Senator McCain and Gov Palin. It was obvious at the RNC, it was obvious in some kind of attack Sarah thing she held. Everyone of the people that were on stage savaged Gov Palin.

Gwen may be able to stop her grimaces, but the hatred will shine out of her eyes.

Note: PBS is not impartial. This is the 2nd moderator for a debate that comes from there. The Joyce Foundation a liberal anti gun foundation had Obama on it’s board. The Chicago based Joyce Foundation is a PBS sponsor.

tzada

The Drudge Report is all over this one. Is there any way we can get this obomination from “moderating” this debate?

IMPARTIAL? VP-DEBATE HOST PENS BOOK LAUDING OBAMA

OMORROW, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill will serve as moderator for the first and only vice-presidential debate. But there is nothing “moderate” about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama.

She’s so far in the tank for the Democratic presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out.

In an imaginary world where liberal journalists are held to the same standards as everyone else, Ifill would be required to make a full disclosure at the start of the debate. She would be required to turn to the cameras and tell the national audience that she has a book coming out on Jan. 20, 2009 – a date that just happens to coincide with the inauguration of the next president of the United States.

The title of Ifill’s book? “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” Nonpartisan, my foot.

Random House, her publisher, is already busy hyping the book with YouTube clips of Ifill heaping praise on her subjects, including Obama and Obama-endorsing Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. The official promo for the book gushes:

“In ‘The Breakthrough,’ veteran journalist Gwen Ifill surveys the American political landscape, shedding new light on the impact of Barack Obama’s stunning presidential campaign and introducing the emerging young African-American politicians forging a bold new path to political power . . . moment in American history.”

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/impartial__vp_debate_host_pens_book_laud_131515.htm

Maverick

Gwen only supports Obama because he has black skin. His incompetence and idiocy has not come into the equation for her. If his skin was white he would have been long gone.
She and Oprah got a free pass so it doesn’t cross her mind. Any blacks get the feeling that they won’t get anymore breaks? Obama ruining it. This will be a backlash.

rapp

I’m a union democrat. The democrats don’t support me. They all illegal immigration to keep wages down. Unions are against illegal immigration. The spread between rich and poor is directly related to the democrats policy on illegal immigration. It is going to increase.

Is that the type of socialism that Obama is bringing with him? A 2-class system of the filthy rich and the poor?
I Will Remember in November

This is not a troll question. I am looking for an honest and sincere responses.
How does obama’s socialism bent fit the love he receives from all the wall street and corp type?

BTW, if the govt revenues are gather through a fair and equitable tax structure (let’s assume that the current america tax system is fair and equitable) and th revenues are used for the society as a whole that is not socialism. Socialism comes into play when the tax system is based soley on how much you make in comparison to the society and your tax burden is based on achieving some equilibrium. Then the govt revenue is used for the benefit of society. I think most people understand that.

PUMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

It doesn’t.

And they wont call it taxes, they will call it Carbon Credits.
rapp

It is about more money for the rich elite. He has only raised taxes on the middle class while in state senate, never lowered. It is a campaign thing, he is pandering for votes. Now he says he will delay them.

It is about creating a two class system similar to Cuba before the revolution. The rich get richer and everyone else is the working class.

Why else would the democrats allow illegal immigration, to keep wages low.
http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

“I am looking for an honest and sincere responses.”

You came to the wrong place.

http://elect2009.wordpress.com OMGIAMGOINGNUTS – Cindie

OFF TOPIC: but very interesting.
THE VP MODERATOR?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76645
She’s releasing a PRO OBAMA BOOK!
No kidding.
This is so so so screwed up.

motherinKY

One look at her and I knew she was an Obamabot.

http://elect2009.wordpress.com OMGIAMGOINGNUTS – Cindie

I am so ticked off by this. It’s just NOT fair to PALIN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

it was never going to be fair to her.

It hasn’t been the past 4 weeks what makes you think anything will change?

Securing the Election for Barack Obama is Serious Business.

Pennsylvania goes RED!

I just posted about Couric’s interview of Palin. In the five minute clip I saw more vetting of Palin (by MSM) than I’ve seen done on 0bama this entire campaign.

(And after the eighth question, Palin didn’t start crying for her waffles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

She doesn’t need a Breakfast waffle, she had a mooseburger for dinner…rare. She is good for 18-24 hours.

Maverick

Can they do an about face and get Greta to do it?

workingclass artist

Barky cannot close the deal…unless he cheats

Perry Logan

Unless!?

Shiloh

Actually I think the attention being given to Gwen Ifil as moderator will cause her to be more fair and balanced than we ever could have hoped otherwise. She will be under the microscope and while she is in the tank for Obama, in the long run she cares more about herself.

Pennsylvania goes RED!

No.

She couldn’t hide her disgust after Palin’s speech at the Republican convention.

This is personal for Ifill.

Sorry, Shiloh, I usually agree with you but this time no way. These people will fall on their swords for their Master Savior Messiah. You have to understand the mentality.

They don’t get that he wouldn’t do the same for them.

Shiloh

Well, if she does that it will backfire. Media bias is beginning to become an issue in itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

i have my money on REPLACED BY CHRIS MATTHEWS AT THE LAST MINUTE!

I have a bracelet 2

to be fair it should be brazile nut

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

Perhaps some of the things mentioned in this post further illustrates what’s behind Obama…great visual examples….

Obama’s Very Own Cultural Revolution

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/obamas-cultural-revolution-were-gonna-change-it-and-rearrange-it/
sandshark222

Social justice is only fair and thoughtful when money gets redistributed from people who earn a lot to people who CAN’T earn enough to support themselves. However, all too often in socialist nations, they money gets distributed to people who REFUSE to help themselves but are fully capable. This is not only unfair but is also part of the reason that pure socialism doesn’t work.

Like jeremiah said earlier, “Rainbows and Unicorns”

Perry Logan

Studies show that nations with strong welfare system have better and more stable economies.

Perry Logan

Also less crime. Stuff like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

The reported crime rate is pretty low in Iran which is a semi-socialist fascist state.

Shoplifting for example is pretty infrequent.

And repeat offenders never repeat more than once.

But then, the penalty for shoplifting is the removal of the hand that stole.

and as i am sure you can follow, shoplift twice and you wont be picking your nose any time soon.
jvsp

Rubbish, Perry! Have you lived in Europe? In Holland crime is horrendous. The right wing parties are gaining ground in Austria and elsewhere precisely because their societies are going to SH I T.
Maverick

You are crazy Perry. How can you say that? Look what the strong welfare system in America did? It made generations of lazy trouble makers. Idle hands temp the devil.

Shiloh

Oh please, do give us a link on that. If it means anything it means that stable economies can afford more welfare spending.

Perry Logan

Since welfare systems cost very little, that’s unlikely.

A Google search for “strong welfare system” or “good welfare system will yield you tons of information.

Where there are strong welfare systems, women and children fare better, people have more vacation time, everyone is healthy and with rosy cheeks. It goes on and on.

wodiej

are you serious? 10.4 million single moms are on welfare. you think that costs little?? that plus all the illegal aliens here mooching over the system too…$400 billion annually.

csuzeq

I’m a single Mom and I’d like to get onto the Anne Dunham single Mom program. On it, she got to travel the world, even though she was “poor and on food stamps”. Well, I am not poor because I went to college to get a good job and am going again now for my bachelor’s and I own a home, but I am unable to travel the world on my income. Maybe I am too wealthy!

Mr.Murder

Scandivnavian solutions to the bail out, why those countries have universal health care.

Unless we get that, F the bailout?
rapp

France has over 10% unemployment in a good economy. What is it now? So I guess your statement is false.

Perry Logan

But in America’s “booming economy,” people work three jobs and still don’t have healthcare, whereas the unemployed in France are doing fine. Maybe that’s why Americans are demanding it. Americans want to catch up with the rest of the world.

Did I mention that lifespans are longer where there are good health and welfare systems? No wonder it scares Republicans so much!

wodiej

no, what scares me is people who sit on their lazy ass all day and wont’ work but want a government check each month, money to buy groceries and eat better than I do and free health care without asking them to do anything for it.

Maverick

Plus they get stimulous checks. That didn’t work out well for lots of people.

Shiloh

I wish that were the worst of it. In fact income gets redistributed to government bureaucrats and hangers on. I’ll never forget 40 years ago a high school teacher of mine drew a cow on the blackboard and said this is government. The hay the cow eats is taxes and the more the cow eats the fatter the cow gets, but the people the cow is supposed to be helping only get what drops out of the other end.

sandshark222

“their money” sorry typo
Mr.Murder

Who wants to bail out the monopoly guy on Wall St. with neocon socialism?

Anyone care to show us where that’s stated in any of the three Articles?
ford

Send e an email to the protest the choice of Ifill, ask that she be removed…the link is above and it works…

How can this election get worse??

basil

where is the link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

Ask the Commission on Presidential Debates if she will acknowledge her conflict of interest: 202-872-1020.

And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org

sandshark222

Every modern thriving free nation has to have some social programs to help its citizens, however, not pure socialism. These programs also have to be kept in check, because they frequently get misused, and abused, and turn into tools for corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.

The US of A has been pretty good about that throughout most of its history, however, Fannie May and Freddy Mac are prime examples of what happens when socialism goes unchecked.

To think that we could even THINK of electing someone like Oboy who worked for ACORN, which contributed to this mess by pushing banks to sign bad loans – is absolutely asinine!

Maverick

I find it strange that the failure and corruption of freddie and fannie were done by the 2 black guys that ran the place and filled their own coffers. It’s a me, me mentality. No conscience at all. They can use the race card and get away with it and they know it. It bites.

ford

Sorry the link was in the previous post.

Send an email to Ifill’s supervisor in the debate, let them know that Ifill’s roll has now been corrupted.

Email: jbdebates.org

Let them know that Book Tours should be separate from debates…

basil

That’s not a link and there’s no match at google

jangles

I have enjoyed Gwen Ifill’s work at the News Hour and even her Washington Week. I quit watching as she moved more into open support of Obama. Also her panel on WW is representative of the MSM. However, I think she will probably be fair. I thought that Jim Leherer did a good job on the first presidential debate.
SHV

Obama’s concept of “Economic Redistribution” is from taxpayers to rich political supporters. Just ask the South Chicago tenants who had no heat. I told my ‘obot sister this week that Obama is probably the most corrupt person to run for POTUS since the pre-Hoover Republicans. Her response was that “He has to be that way because he is from Chicago”…’obots can rationalize anything.

sandshark222

It’s amazing how many Obots don’t even care about Obama’s associations with Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc. They justify anything.

However… if it were McCain that had all of these associations they would be holding a public lynching of Mac. They don’t even try to hide the double standard, and neither does the MSM.

wodiej

exactly…they’re a bunch of hypocrites is what they are….

wodiej

OMG….no she didn’t….how stupid is that??
Maverick

Wow wow wow. What is wrong with the minds of the Obots?

tzada

OT See todays BIG headlines about Gwen Ifill and the VP debate and her book about Obama. Conflict of interest?

EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds
$99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/01/pelosis-pac-pays-bills-for-spouses-firm/
jangles

When I think of everything that Obama has going for him in this election, if he does not win and win big it will be amazing. He will only lose if the American people wake up and smell the coffee. I think it is interesting that the polls are tightening up again and Obama’s national lead that built up over the last week is decreasing. This thing is going to the wire. I think he may be damaged by the MO “truth squads” and the Ohio voting operation.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

If the American people wake up it won’t be coffee they will be smelling.

jangles

I think we have to acknowledge that the main problem with the economic picture that developed during the Bush years was that the rich got enormously more rich and the average Joe did not share in it. That is the lesson Republicans have to learn—paying attention to those Americans that make up that 95% to make sure that they feel they are part of American prosperity and have a chance at jobs that make a decent wage. If that occurs then they pay more in taxes without any tax rate increases and there is more revenue to work with for social programs. Health care is a serious issue. If you look at Social Security and Medicare—these two programs have been amazingly successful in decreasing poverty among seniors who wind up being mostly women. Somehow we need to do this with health care. HRC understands that this is the major economic issue of our time.

wodiej

I agree…our wages went down, theirs skyrocketed. Bush is a moron….
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com M. Simon

Bush doesn’t control spending. Congress does.

Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines, and Daniel Mudd are creatures of the Democrats.

But of course the Republicans will get the blame and Obama will be President and it all will be good.

C.S.

Then, using Soertoro/Obama’s definition, what we now have in the U.S. is a kind of reverse socialism; the government takes from the workers and redistributes it, via taxes and prices, to the top 10% Profit Makers (i.e. oil companies) which fits the description of a monopoly better.

However, we’re a Constitutional democratic/republic where government is reactive to the Will of the People. And all those thousands of People gathered outside Wall Street to protest the Bush Bailout Bill is the visible manifestation of the Will of the People to inform their elected representatives that Democracy, in their eyes, is not dead yet.

That to secure these rights [life, liberty, pursuit of happiness], governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government…

And even though the Revolution is commonly believed to have started over taxation without representation, economic distribution of wealth is not mentioned. Government intervention by confiscating an individual’s justly earned fortune through taxation is.

For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world

For imposing taxes on us without our consent

Any change in our government is to be according to our Constitution which The Declaration of Independence emphatically states should be done by

laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them [We the People] shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes…

Therefore, Soertoro/Obama’s plan

“I’ve been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served…”

simply means that he has been working his entire adult life to institute undefined “economic justice” outside of the framework of our Constitution and that ideology does not fit our Constitution.

(oops, here comes the those Missouri prosecutors…)
educatedwhitewoman

Breaking:

I confirmed for us here on GretaWire: the McCain campaign did NOT know about Gwen Ifill’s book (I think I told them when I made my efforts – emails about midnight – to find out!) I am stunned….the campaign (actually both) should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair – in law, this would create a mistrial.

Maverick

Get Greta to do it. She’s fair. Fraudbama camp must have picked Ifill

PKat

Man I can’t stand these Socialist, Communistic Mudder Fuchers here, arguing for all that this country was NOT built on. GET THE FUCH OUT!!

If Socialism is what Obama is all about, and these folks take over, pulling all my $$ out of the “system”, I’m sitting my ass at home, with my GUN!!! and waiting on a hand out from George Soros. I won’t give SHIT to this country, until Hillary is President in 2012!!

MCCAIN IN 08 to save America!!

PKat

Give me some money Hollywood!!
Give me some food Welfare.
Redistribute all that wealth from Bill Gates!
Give me some place to live!! I deserve a house, and some land!
I ain’t doin nuttin!! for it.

masslib

Come on, Obama is no socialist. Jesus, economic justice is extremely necessary today but it ain’t going to happen under Obama. This socialism crap is stoopid.
Linda

The problem with socialism is that it doesn’t work. Previous posters are right, high inflation, high unemployment, and high taxes to pay for all those government programs, that are inadequate. Ever read all those stories about inadequate social healthcare? If our founding fathers thought redistribution and socialism was the way to go there never would have been a revolutionary war. What do you think that was all about? How do you think we became the greatest nation in the world? Because we rejected socialims, but it has been slowly introduced into our society since Roosevelt with his new deal plan. Barack Obama will turn the social undercurrents into the read thing. This is scary stuff, because its not just socialism, its also fascism with the truth squads in MO, threatening prosection to anyone that might speak out against Barack Obama. It goes on and on. Hopefully enough people wake up. Back in 2004 I heard a speech by a senator that inspired me, thank God I woke up.
DancingOpossum

Yeah, that New Deal, what a horrible idea.

Spare me. First off, Republican-Lite Obama doesn’t have a socialist bone in his body. If he did I might actually be more inclined to vote for him (although probably not). There actually is one socialist in Congress: Bernie Sanders. Absolutely nothing scary about that guy, whose constituents in Vermont can’t re-elect fast enough every time he runs.

I’d rather have “economic justice” than the trickle-up policies we have now where the rich have so much money they don’t have time to count it and the poor and middle class keep slipping closer to the edge of poverty.

And as for all those people who supposedly worked soooo hard for the money–the MAJORITY of millionaires in the world INHERITED their money. They didn’t earn shit, except the right to control polticians, and they’ve done that to their great advantage.

I say bring on the economic justice. To me that means a living wage, universal healthcare, affordable housing, a progressive tax policy, and job creation. It’s long overdue.

Brian_C82

Oh brother. I bet you think the white man is to blame because you can’t find a better job than flipping burgers at the local Burger King.

OxyCon

“There will be time to punish those who set this fire, but now is the moment for us to come together and put the fire out.” – The One, Obama on September 29 2008
Perry Logan

But if Hillary were our nominee, I’ll our friends at Investor’s Business Daily would be busily calling her a socialist. The Right always accuses every Democratic candidate of being a socialist. It’s a compulsive behavior, repeated over and over, so it has no credibility.
DancingOpossum

Well, thanks to eight years of Republican rule, a lot of people CAN’T find jobs flipping burgers because the line to get them is too long.
Maverick

Stop Bush’s “No Banker Left Behind Act”

Having suffered a stunning defeat of their “Grand Theft Bailout” Bill on Monday, the Bush Administration, the banks and Wall Street are now coming back for their second try. They are used to directing the affairs of the country regardless of the will of the people. The U.S. Senate is expected to vote tonight, Wednesday evening, in favor of a nearly identical version. This is intended to force the House of Representatives to do the same when they return tomorrow, Thursday.

You can call the Capitol Switchboard at 800-473-6711 or 202-224-3121 to ask to be transferred to the offices of the Senators from your state.

Bush’s “No Banker Left Behind Act” was defeated because of overwhelming public opposition. But now the politicians have come up with an easy answer. In an unprecedented step, Congress is virtually shutting down its incoming constituent email. They are installing the digital version of riot police, protecting the politicians from an enraged population that demands to be heard. Congress has acknowledged that it is receiving millions of emails from the people of the United States, all opposing this theft of $700 billion to be handed to the richest bankers. People who try to send emails are likely to receive error messages and their emails will not go through during “peak hours.” Congress claims that this is a response to the overwhelming emails to keep their server from crashing; however, their server did not crash during the time they were receiving the most emails and they quietly instituted this program late Tuesday afternoon.

The U.S. Senate – this country’s version of the House of Lords – is returning to do the work of the White House in league with the biggest bankers. Known as “millionaires club” because of the elite status of its members, the U.S. senate is playing the same role that the King’s House of Lords played in earlier times in British history, a political barrier created to protect the aristocracy from the wrath of the people.

VoteNoBailout.org is urging all of its members and supporters to call Congress, to email them at “off peak” hours, and to come directly to the U.S. Capitol on Thursday morning at 10 am so our voices can be heard at the People’s Demonstration/Speakout. Congress can run but they can’t hide from the wrath of the people. We won’t let them.

Thursday’s demonstration will take place at 10 am on the South side of the Capitol at Independence Ave. and New Jersey Avenues SE. For more information, see below or go to VoteNoBailout.org.

You can call the Capitol Switchboard at 800-473-6711 or 202-224-3121 to ask to be transferred to the offices of the Senators from your state.