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Did NPR Surrender To a Radical Group’s Demand for Political Correctness?

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Many have written about the abrupt firing of NPR and Fox News commentator, Juan Williams, for comments Mr. Williams made regarding Muslims on a recent Bill O’Reilly program. There is no need for me to duplicate their worthy efforts (Bronwyn’s Harbor of NQ has two very good posts on the incident, and some of the fall-out of the firing. Logistics Monster has two great posts, too, one highlighting the issue of free speech, and following the money with C.A.I.R., the other has Bill O’Reilly speaking out.).

I do not always agree with Mr. Williams, but what happened to him is simply unacceptable, especially since NPR apparently caved to pressure from the Muslim organization, C.A.I.R., about which Uppity Women commented in her inimitable style:

You remember CAIR don’t you? The organization whose founder said he thought SHARIA Law in the USA would be great and Islam is not in America to be equal but to dominate? CAIR, the organization accused of having ties to Islamofascism? That CAIR?

Yep. That C.A.I.R.

Well, it turns out that not everyone is so happy with C.A.I.R’s insistence, and NPR’s caving, as this article in the Daily Caller by Caroline May indicates, Muslims Speak Out Against NPR’s Political Correctness:

While a Muslim advocacy group, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), was instrumental in getting National Public Radio (NPR) to fire Juan Williams, some Muslims are speaking out against succumbing to the censorship of political correctness.

Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, took issue with those who wrap themselves in feel-good sensitivity, while denying the fact that the majority of terrorists are Muslim. (Emphasis mine.)

Indeed, the threat is real enough even for Fatah, a liberal Muslim, who looks at women in burkas with skepticism. “I am scared when I see women in burkas, how do I know what is behind that?” Fatah said, noting that many Muslims share his concerns.

“We are victims of these guys. A number of suicide bombers who have attacked have killed people [while] wearing the burka,” Fatah said. “This is the truth, we should be speaking the truth rather than what people expect us to say. ”

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, told The Daily Caller that though Williams could have been more tactful, his ouster is symptomatic of the problems Americans continue to face when discussing Islam.

“As much as the way he said it was poorly chosen, the era we find ourselves — of political correctness — we are not able to address what this fear is,” Jasser said. “Anybody that starts talking about this fear gets shut down.”

No kidding. Those of us who have tried to discuss the building of a mosque chosen for both its proximity to the World Trade Towers and because it had part of one of the planes fall on it, know this all too well. Heck, Bill O’Reilly (of whom I am not a fan) had Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg storm off the set of The View for his FACTUAL comment that the atrocities of 9/11 were perpetrated by Muslims. What the heck? 9/11 WAS committed by Muslims – there is simply no denying that reality! What does it serve Behar and Goldberg, or anyone, for that matter, to try and revise that reality? They were extremists, sure, but they committed these acts as a RESULT of their Muslim beliefs. Not all Muslims support that belief, but to deny that many do is just childish.

So, how are all of these “politically correct” folks going to deal with MUSLIMS saying they, too, get nervous when they see women in burkas because there is no telling what they might be hiding? When Muslims acknowledge that, yes, the people who committed these acts, these people who continue to plan and plot against us, are Muslims?

How in the world can NPR legitimately report news if they are unwilling to accept that, say Major Nassan, the Army psychiatrist who gunned down a number of his fellow soldiers, did so as a Muslim? Or the Times Square bomber, who, despite failing at his task, “spoke with pride” about his attempt to kill people because he is a Muslim? You know the one, Shahzad, just sentenced to life for this attempt, who said, “Brace yourselves, because the war with Muslims has just begun” (emphasis mine)?

If NPR (and others) are willing to subject free speech, how in the WORLD can they be considered a reputable news source, especially when the opinions expressed by Mr. Williams are some shared by liberal Muslims themselves? Or when there are Muslim extremists flat out telling us to brace ourselves?

The reality of Muslim extremists targeting us was emphasized again in this article:

[snip] According to Jasser, the fact that the vast majority of national security threats emanate from the Muslim world makes Williams’ fear reasonable. Without open discussion, however, those concerns will never be conquered.

“I think that ultimately what we find when many thought leaders try to talk about it, [they say] ‘well there are some common elements to those who threaten national security,’ and the only one so far they have been able to nail down is that they come from some form of Islamic theology,’” Jasser said. “And because we have not become skilled in discussing theo-political threats, you’re having a lot of these little skirmishes happening.”

[snip]

Stephen Schwartz, executive director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, echoed Fatah and Jasser. Schwartz told TheDC that he and his organization opposed NPR’s reaction to Williams’ comments.

“Mr. Williams is basically an opinion journalist and he offered an opinion based on an undeniable reality: American Muslims have so far failed in our duty to prevent negative perceptions among our non-Muslim neighbors, and many, unfortunately, have taken the existing concerns among non-Muslims as a challenge to assert Muslim identity more aggressively, through forms of dress as well as speech that are often extravagant and excessive,” Schwartz wrote in an e-mail to TheDC.

“Mr. Williams spoke to this reality in an understated, candid way. He did not express hatred or incite violence against Muslims. He should not have been dismissed.” (Click HERE to read the rest.)

What does it serve NPR, or Joy Behar, or any of the other “PC” people to deny the realty with which we are currently living? It is one thing for Behar and Goldberg to storm off the set of an opinion show, but NPR is SUPPOSED to be a reputable news outlet, not one subject to the so-called politically correct demands of a radical organization. The reaction of NPR says WAY more about them than Juan Williams’ comment says about him. They have allowed themselves to be manipulated, and seem intent on revising our history of just who attacked us on 9/11, and why.

Should we fear all Muslims? Certainly not. But should we deny that it was, indeed, Muslims who attacked us on 9/11, shot our soldiers down at Fort Hood, tried to cause serious damage and loss of life in New York City’s Time Square? Hell, no. And that is basically what Juan Williams was saying. Perhaps he said it inexpertly, but his reasoning was sound. We have legitimate reasons to be suspicious of certain groups from their own mouths (Shahzad, for example), and to pretend otherwise is sheer folly.

NPR should be ashamed of how it handled this situation, and that it allowed itself to be used by one organization whose motives are well documented. They are an embarrassment.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Behar and Goldberg well take it for what it’s worth.  Haven’t wayched the View in years.  I’ve sat through videos and movies of those that are hostile and in disagreement of my point of view.

    I’ve argued with people and never once thought they should be shut down.  You need to know what they think if you wish to answer them

    Juan Williams is hardly a far right wing advocate.

    Let’s see, Juan Williams fired.  One of two black managers fired from NPR.  Head of NASA fired afte an Al Jazeera interview.  Not a peep about racism in any of these cases.  Amazing.

    Dusagree with Obama? Racist.  Fire black folk from their positions? Not racist.  No outrage and no calls for protests or marching in the streets. What’s wrong with this picture?

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    OOps that’s “watched the View”.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Also that’s “disagree with Obama”.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Interesting point, Candymarl.  Apparently, speaking out against Muslims is now more racist than firing a black man.  Wow.  See, there IS some change!  Ahem.

    I haven’t watched the View in years, either.  For a brief moment, I think Whoopi supported Hillary once she found out that it was Hillary, not Barack, who supported an issue important to her.  Who knows how long that really lasted though, considering how much they fawned over Barack when he showed up?

    Good points, Candymarl!

  • greenlantern

    I am so glad this happened. It is backfiring bigtime on NPR. People who disagree with the substance of what Williams said are in agreement on his right to say it. Shutting down debate is not in our national interest at all. The lines of demarkation are getting clearer everyday. There is seriously an UnAmerican cancer that has insinuated itself into the political consciousness of the Left. It’s f-ing Night of the Living Dead out there! 

  • Tricia

    Good post, Amy.

    I think it goes beyhond PC however.  We all have been conditioned to the point where we can’t NOT be concerned when we see a person in Muslim garb.  That little red flag that waves in our heads. 

    We were all traumatied by 9/11, and it will stick with us, especially as the feeling is contuniouslly reinforced by subsequent incidents.

  • Breeze

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    “Let’s see, Juan Williams fired.  One of two black managers fired from NPR.  Head of NASA fired afte an Al Jazeera interview.  Not a peep about racism in any of these cases.  Amazing.”

    So glad you brought this up, CM!  I have been meaning to but I’ve been
    too busy.

    So, where are those LOUD MOUTHS: Sharpton, Jackson, the NAACP etc?

    CRICKETS

    HIPOCRITS, one and all.

    I AM SO DISGUSTED!!!  

  • Breeze

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    FINALLY:

    The Baehr Essentials

    American Thinker,
    by Richard Baehr   

    Original Article

    10/22/2010

    The Juan Williams story is not going away.

    NPR member stations are holding their annual pledge drive this week.

    Reaction to the firing has been generally negative among listeners, and the Washington Post says 80% of its readers who have responded objected to the firing. It appears that not only conservatives are unhappy with how shabbily NPT treated Williams- firing him over the phone, after ten years of service to NPR.

    Has Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson been heard from? Or for that matter, Barack Obama?

  • Breeze

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    SNIP:

    “The monster who runs NPR, who joked that Williams needs to discuss his views with a psychiatrist or publicist, still has a job today. Why?  Do journalists or executives who mock blacks as mentally unstable, normally hold their jobs?”

  • AbigailAdams

    “According to Jasser, the fact that the vast majority of national security threats emanate from the Muslim world makes Williams’ fear reasonable. Without open discussion, however, those concerns will never be conquered.” 

    Or, perhaps, validated?  Note:  I’m not implying they will be validated, but the statement above presumes the fears are baseless.  We can’t know that until we fearlessly pursue the question.

    The problems surfaced this week by the firing of Williams at NPR signal a much deeper concern about speech codes, generally.  I have recently started looking at political and ideological indoctrination in the classroom.  A situation came up last week in which I discovered my child’s high school science teacher uses his position as a platform to “share” his views on left-wing ecology issues.  And again this week he spent most of his classroom time discussing DADT.  He is supposed to be teaching biololgy.  There was a news story today about an Ohio high school principal, teachers and others who conducted a group of their students on a field trip to learn about voting in which the students were given ballots with only Democrat party candidates on them.

    All to say, I’ve been doing some research lately to try to understand where political correctness ends and where political indoctrination begins.  It’s a blurred line.  I’ve come across various organizations whose mission is to ensure academic freedom and what is called “intellectual diversity”, meaning the right to express a minority view in what has become predominately liberal groupthink – starting as early as kindergarten, or before that on children’s programming at PBS. 

    So Juan Williams’ firing at NPR may be a watershed moment in U.S. history with implications that reach much further than anyone now realizes.  I hope that it is. 

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    A Brief History of NPR’s  
    Intolerance and Imbalance
     
     
    Fox News,  
    by Staff     
     
    Original Article  
     
    10/22/2010  
     
    From calling Tea Party members “Tea Baggers,” to saying that “the evaporation of 4 million” Christians would leave the world a better place, to suggesting that God could give former Sen. Jesse Helms or his family AIDS from a blood transfusion, NPR’s personalities have said some pretty un-PC things in the past. A look at the record reveals no shortage of intolerant statements and unbalanced segments on the publicly sponsored network’s airwaves. Here’s an incomplete list of questionable and controversial content that has aired on NPR or has been uttered by its employees:

  • AbigailAdams

    Has anyone seen any of this kind of coverage of this situation at CNN, MSNBC or the other news orgs?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Well said, Tricia.  Thank you for the great comment!

  • Breeze

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    Frankly, AA, I stopped watching the ‘alphabet channels’ wayback in
    early 2008 – maybe, now and then, I’ll watch CSpan, I have Fox on
    all the time and, even them, with a very observant ear….. 

    Same goes for print news.

  • Breeze

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    CAIR’s Role in Juan Williams  
    Firing May Be Violation of  
    Foreign Agents Registration Act
     
     
    Big Peace,  
    by Adam Savit     
     
    Original Article  
     
    10/22/2010  
     
    By now most of the world knows about NPR’s shameful firing of Juan Williams for candidly stating his thoughts about Muslims. But what about CAIR’s role in the matter? As the most high-profile Muslim Brotherhood front organization in the United States, CAIR was quick to suggest “professional consequences” for Juan Williams’ exercise of free speech. Late last night the Center for Security Policy distributed the following press release to place the Juan Williams episode in the context of CAIR’s greater goal: to enforce “deterrent punishments” against anyone who dares discuss….

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, exactly, Breeze.  Why is no one calling out people like the head of NPR for statements like that?  Apparently, for reasons not completely clear to me, Muslims must be defended at all costs.  Go figure…

  • Breeze

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    by Roger L Simon  
     
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    public would appreciate seeing enacted as quickly as possible.  
     
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  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    AA, what a very interesting comment.  I would love to see you write up what you discover as you investigate this issue.  It is one that affects all of us, to be sure.  If that is something that would interest you, that is.

    Our godson told us abt a gov’t class he took his senior year.  His teacher set up for them to go to a Dem. breakfast, a Repub. breakfast, and a Libertarian breakfast.  He said the Dems (and both of his parents are yellow dog Dems, and his dad listens to NPR all of the time) were a bunch of loony leftwing weirdos, the Repubs threw verbal mud, and the Libertarians made the most sense to him.  I found that VERY interesting given his background.  While his teacher did set this up, from other comments she made to him, it was clear she had a liberal bias, too.

    Great comment.  Thank you.

  • PssttCmere

    Makes you wonder….after 9/11 we were supposed to report any suspicious activity or traitorous talk (and you know that meant involving muslims especially), now we are just supposed to pretend everything is A-OK….when did they get the upperhand?  And why was it allowed to happen?  F’n up is down, down is up, black is white, white is black in our world now!!  I have heard worse come out of harry reid’s mouth (now he is saying he saved the world, ya know) and no one fired him.

    Going to get a motrin….just gave myself a headache!  =-O

    P.S.  Welcome back RRRA

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    ‘Not all Muslims support that belief, but to deny that many do is just childish.’

    I find the above sentence as a kinda WTF kind – how do we know this statement is true?  Who says it is?  Do you truly believe that?  If so, how then do you reconcile the ISLAM SUCKS book that says it is their very essence to lie to infidels (which is us BTW) so how can anyone believe anything that any ISLAM SUCKS says becuz their 7th century barbariac illiterate pedophile who claimed he talked to ‘god’ gave them their rules and their one rule is to make this an ISLAMIC SUCKS world – give in to them or die…………………,

    Prove me wrong…………………………..

  • Tony Stark

    It won’t be long before anyone who speaks out against the idea of Sharia being instituted here in the US will receive the same treatment.

  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    BTW – Mr. Williams is starting to remind me of the fraud – way too much exposure – he’s everywhere – got a big new contract with FOX so now he can spout his liberal shit like Alan Colmes does or Shepherd Smith  – just another one to switch channels when they appear………………………..

  • Guest

    At least NPR ombudsman Alicia Shepherd acknowledges that the decision is going over like a lead balloon and calls it a “public relations nightmare.”

    As well it should. Both the initial Muslim remarks and later ‘psychiatrist’ jab it is beyond clear to me are nothing more than disingenuous pretexts (lies) to cover the weak justification for his firing. In retrospect their is no question that NPR had been on high alert for any excuse to fire him over the Fox appearances for some time.

     http://townhall.com/columnists/GuyBenson/2010/10/21/npr_finally_finds_an_excuse_to_fire_juan_williams

    The truth is that NPR has been fishing for a pretext to terminate Williams for some time. In February of 2009, Williams — again appearing on “The O’Reilly Factor” — had the temerity to offer unflattering analysis of Michelle Obama as a political liability. This set off a firestorm among (literally) dozens of the bien pensants who populate NPR’s boardroom and listening audience. In a melodramatic column, the radio network’s ombudsman — excuse me, ombudswoman — chided Williams for his tendency to “speak one way on NPR and another on Fox.” As I wrote at the time, tailoring one’s style to his intended audience is Media 101. The network ultimately directed Williams to drop all on-screen mentions of their precious brand name during future “O’Reilly” appearances.

  • Katmoon

    Makes one wonder what the reaction is suppose to be according to the critics. Do we shut off all our internal alarms, and bells and whistles, then what? I don’t find it odd for anyone to have some sort of reaction of something that looks different to them, it is human nature. Also given the attacks and what we do know, and understand, isn’t it foolish to be pc and not profile at some point? Is this not how we catch serial killers, rapists, and others in the grab bag of disgust? It will not be the Grandma with the knitting needles; but it may be someone trying to set fire to their shoe or underware.. what is the common element? A belief system attached to another belief system we are suppose to be fine with( and somehow be able to read although it is not a belief native to our country, and is quite new in the volume of places and amount of people who are practicing) if we are pc? Ridiculious and impossile. We have our senses to keep us alive, and if someone looks or behaves like a certain type of criminal, well I’ll be damned if those pc fools get to blame me for picking them out, if they fit into a stereotype, that is not my doing, now is it? No, if you are caught in a criminal act and are behaving like a stereotype, might be related..for the pc over common sense, “Here’s yer sign!”

  • Katmoon

    That public relations nightmare confession, is like shooting yourself in the foot, then admitting you didn’t know how to shoot a gun.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Susie, am I understanding that you are asking me to prove that there are some Muslims who do not support jihad against the US?  If so, I would have to say I take the people mentioned above at their word, and from some Muslims I have known personally.  But I get your point, especially if people like Hirsi Ali is to be believed (and from all evidence, she is).  Good point.  Thanks for pursuing that with me.  I hear you.

    And I get your point abt Williams, too.  He is not my favorite person (though I can tolerate him more than Colmes, whom I NEVER liked even when I was still a yellow dog Dem), but yeah, he is getting a bit overexposed.

  • Samb

    Everyone wants freedom of religion, everyone wants freedom of speech
    but it seem certain individuals want it only when it suits their political 
    agenda.

    Juan was fired due to a vendetta against FOX.

    This smacks of desperation.

    Give the American public the credit that they can think for themselves
    that they have the right to form their own opinions and verbalize them.

    In the end NPR needed to show a live sacrifice to it’s donor’s {Soros}
    I truly believe this shit is happening only because Americans have been 
    divided {The One who we know as the Socialist Beast} he is connected to 
    it, even if it is indirectly 

    Juan will win in the end and FOX will benefit from it.
    *DONT_KNOW*

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Dangit – I meant to say, too, AA, that you raise a great point abt Jasser’s statement.  That one caught my eye, too.  I figured that was his own bias getting in there, but yes – the fears are not baseless.  As noted above, we have had too much violence directed at us to make that claim (not just here, but as targets abroad, too – the USS Cole, embassy, Marine barracks, to name a few)…

  • Samb

    Everyone wants freedom of religion, everyone wants freedom of speech  
    but it seem certain individuals want it only when it suits their political   
    agenda.  
     
    Juan was fired due to a vendetta against FOX.  
     
    This smacks of desperation.  
     
    Give the American public the credit that they can think for themselves  
    that they have the right to form their own opinions and verbalize them.  
     
    In the end NPR needed to show a live sacrifice to it’s donor’s {Soros}  
    I truly believe this shit is happening only because Americans have been   
    divided {The One who we know as the Socialist Beast}
    he is connected to it, even if it is indirectly   
     
    Juan will win in the end and FOX will benefit from it.
    *DONT_KNOW*
     

  • Touchet

    When NPR says that they handled the firing “badly”, they mean they should have chopped off his tongue first.

  • West Virginia

    (my bolds below)

    By EMILIO KARIM DABUL

    And for what offense has he been pilloried by the censorship squad of NPR? For saying out loud what many Americans think—that he gets nervous when he’s on a plane and sees people dressed in traditional Muslim garb.

    As an Arab-American of Muslim descent, I am not offended by this because in all honesty I have had the same reaction in similar circumstances. In Berlin a couple of years ago, my flight was delayed because, we were told, one of the passengers, who was in a wheelchair, needed extra assistance. When she finally was brought into the waiting area, she was covered from head to toe in traditional Muslim dress and only her eyes were visible. What happened? I grew nervous. I got on the plane just the same, but with trepidation.

    Was my response rational? Yes and no.
    It was not Muslims in traditional garb who hijacked those planes on 9/11, and it certainly was not Muslim women in veils and wheelchairs. If anything, an Islamist terrorist wants to blend in, not stand out.

    However, it was not a traditional sort of terrorist attack I feared in this case, but perhaps something unexpected: a traditional Muslim woman in a veil, confined to a wheelchair, who was loaded with explosives.

    That may make me guilty of an overactive imagination, but perhaps not. Not that many years later, a young Muslim on an international flight into Detroit tried to light explosives in his underwear.

    I mention all this for one main reason. I grew up surrounded by Islamic culture, went to Islamic events, and was used to seeing women in traditional Muslim clothing, and yet when that woman appeared at the Berlin airport, I was scared.

    That’s all Mr. Williams was saying. He didn’t say that they should be removed from the plane, treated differently, or anything close to that. He simply said he got nervous. And for that, he was fired.

    The reality is that when Muslims cease to be the main perpetrators of terrorism in the world, such fears about traditional garb are bound to vanish. Until such time, the anxiety will remain. In the long run, it’s what we do with such fears that matters, not that we have them.

    But regarding what happened to Mr. Williams, no one should tolerate such intolerant behavior on the part of NPR. This broadcast network is paid for by the American taxpayers, and as such we all have a stake in its decisions.

    NPR often embodies the very things it claims to stand against: unfairness, narrow-mindedness and reactionary policies.

    We deserve better from a public radio network funded by taxpayer money.

    Mr. Dabul is a freelance writer based in New Jersey.

  • TeakWoodKite

     You need to know what they think if you wish to answer them  
    8-)

  • TeakWoodKite

    After such along time by the same people that it doesn’t exist in the United States.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Juan is the guest host on O’Reilly’s show tonight. That is one pissed off dude–I don’t think I’ve ever seen him so angry. I’m glad Bill let him have the show tonight and I’m also glad Juan is able to vent his anger directly. NPR is so screwed.

  • helenk

    the fact that political correctness now overrides common sense it a large threat to the American way of life. It undermines many of our beliefs and much of it is just plain stupid. The fact that your livlihood could be in jeopardy due to a true statement or a statement of how you personally feel about something is a scary thing.

    I posted an example downstairs untder the Hey Barbara post, A stagehand in California working on the venue for backtrack’s speech was fired for wearing a hat and shirt with the logo of the USS G H W Bush aircraft carrier on it. His son is serving on that ship. But the name bush was being shown and we could not upset backtrack’s supporters. The fact that between golf games backtrack is the CIC of the armed forces  and wearing a hat and shirt depicting an United States ship should be honored .

    People are jumping to take offense and retaliate before they even know what the hell they are objecting to. This has to stop and common sense must be returned.

    Some Muslims are enemies of the USA. That is a fact. Deal with it.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    No, I was being rhetorical – it just makes me crazy whenever I hear someone say something about the Muslims who like/want to kill us but whoaaaaa – it’s only the extremists not all Muslims – well, says who?

    Their book tells them it’s perfectly okay to lie to infidels so they do – if a Muslim says they are moderate – prove it – they can’t – once a Muslim, always a Muslim – it’s their ideology and their government and their way of life – I don’t believe any of them and I doubt I ever will…………………………

  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    Whoops – BTW – glad you’re feeling good enough to start posting more often again……………………………

  • Diana L. C.

    I would say that there are Muslims who are like many self-professed Christians who are basically talking about the “tradition” they’ve grown up in.  There are many Christians who attend church only Easter and Christmas, and I know because I have a Turkish daughter-in-law that there are a majority of people in Turkey who are Muslim in tradition but who, as does my daughter-in-law, proclaime they are not “religious.”

  • helenk

    Also every time something like these two firing occur the gulf get wider between people.

  • TeakWoodKite

    After such along time by the same people saying that it doesn’t exist in the United States.

    Mysane half is in that crowd….There are some states…Oklahoma? that are passing laws saying no to Sharia law in any form. Even if it is a internal cultural feature. Texas permits Sharia law in arbitration…. anyother states… I think I saw a map on Pam Gellers site where Sharia law is active.

    I showed mysane half the map. (You know what happened next)

    As a barometer, when my sanehalf brought up Juan getting the NPR/CAIR treatment, I made the point that he was a “liberal” and was treated shamefully BY liberals….(ala BO)
    the only thing that mattered was he was on Fox news. And if someone was on that channel they deserve what they got.
     (her sentiments, my words)

    I hope Juan goes after CAIR….they have gone after many talking heads and other individuals. I see them as Islamic disease, the Umma is to sick with them to be capable of be rid of these blackholes of humanity.

    I get what Juan said…. I can think of a single minimally patriotic American who doesn’t get what he said.
    I hope a conservitive PAC gets on the stick ASAP and starts putting CAIR and NPR in the same frame as BO,Botix Gavel Lady,Howy Weed.

    The script;
    What do BO,Botix Gavel Lady,Howy Weed CAIR and NPR have in common?
    ANS:ǝןʇʇɐɹ ɐ

    I am an American, and I APPOROVE this meesage.

  • Diana L. C.

    Katmoon,  I can only guess that the progressives have advanced to a new level of evolution and are now living with their consciousnesses at a much higher level than are we low-life idiots.  They are the intelligentsia vanguard, we are the mere sheep to be programmed.

  • Katmoon

    The other issue is the new “American” Muslim,(CAIR) who, we could all look like, and raises the qustion of the increase in interest, I have an idea. I recall many catholic friends who would date outside their faith and marry many years ago because of the need to be different or piss their relatives off, and not really wanting to be of any faith let alone the new one. I think there are some, new converts who are doing this as a shock factor, much like the upswing in tattoos and piercings, and that gross weight thingey,(it bugs me). I think anyone who is sincere about their faith, may well be someone who has been there for awhile. Conversion may be for marriage or other reasons, but there is nothing that would drive me toward any faith that believes that Sharia law should be practiced, or thinks there is an expected tolerance for combining their faith with government, just because that is how it was from where the faith originated(or not). It is starting to look like the fight from the middle east has been moved here, to our country. I think some good people tried to get away from the extremists who used faith as their sheild to literally get away with murder, and it worked, so forward and onward to other countries to see how it fares there. Well, that dog don’t hunt here.

  • TeakWoodKite

    After such along time by the same people saying that it doesn’t exist in the United States.  
     
    Mysane half is in that crowd….There are some states…Oklahoma? that are passing laws saying no to Sharia law in any form. Even if it is a internal cultural feature. Texas permits Sharia law in arbitration…. I think I saw a map on Pam Gellers site where Sharia law is active.  
     
    I showed mysane half the map. (You know what happened next)  
     
    As a barometer, when my sanehalf brought up Juan getting the NPR/CAIR treatment, I made the point that he was a “liberal” and was treated shamefully BY liberals….(ala BO)  
    the only thing that mattered was he was on Fox news. And if someone was on that channel they deserve what they got.  
     (her sentiments, my words)  
     
    I hope Juan goes after CAIR….they have gone after many talking heads and other individuals. I see them as an Islamic disease, the Umma is to sick with them to be capable of ridding themselves of these blackholes of humanity.  
     
    I get what Juan said…. I can think of not a single, even minimally patriotic American who doesn’t get what he said.  
    I hope a conservative political PAC gets on the stick ASAP and starts putting CAIR and NPR in the same frame as BO,Botix Gavel Lady,Howy Weed.  
     
    The script;  
    What do BO,Botix Gavel Lady,Howy Weed CAIR and NPR have in common?  
    ANS:ǝןʇʇɐɹ ɐ   
    (you fill in the rest) 

    I am an American, and I APPROVE this message.

  • Diana L. C.

    Well, the minute the election is over, I’m writing to all my politial representatives and demanding that they do something to get public money taken away from NPR.  They claim it’s only a very small part of their funding anyway; they can do without MY tax dollars.  As was discussed on Greta’s show last night, the whole media situation is so different now from the way it was when public radio was extablished that the original reason given for public radio in the first place no longer applies.

  • TeakWoodKite

    After such along time by the same people saying that it doesn’t exist in the United States.    
       
    Mysane half is in that crowd….There are some states…Oklahoma? that are passing laws saying no to Sharia law in any form. Even if it is a internal cultural feature. Texas permits Sharia law in arbitration…. I think I saw a map on Pam Gellers site where Sharia law is active.    
       
    I showed mysane half the map. (You know what happened next)    
       
    As a barometer, when my sanehalf brought up Juan getting the NPR/CAIR treatment, I made the point that he was a “liberal” and was treated shamefully BY liberals….(ala BO)    
    the only thing that mattered was he was on Fox news. And if someone was on that channel they deserve what they got.    
     (her sentiments, my words)    
       
    I hope Juan goes after CAIR….they have gone after many talking heads and other individuals. I see them as an Islamic disease, the Umma is to sick with them to be capable of ridding themselves of these blackholes of humanity.    
       
    I get what Juan said…. I can not think of a single, even minimally patriotic American who doesn’t get what he said.    
    I hope a conservative political PAC gets on the stick ASAP and starts putting CAIR and NPR in the same frame as BO,Botox Gavel Lady,Howy Weed.    
       
    The script;    
    What do BO,Botox Gavel Lady,Howy Weed CAIR and NPR have in common?    
    ANS:ǝןʇʇɐɹ ɐ     
    (you fill in the rest)   
     
    I am an American, and I APPROVE this message.

    (Candy, don’t sweat the typos. LOL)

  • wodiej crackerdawg
  • Katmoon

    So very true, I am sure I can never reach such a state of consciousness, my poor little brain just isn’t capable. Soon they will only have to lay their hands on us unspeakables.

  • Docelder

    I don’t watch the network news either. It is clear the “news” presented is mostly political propaganda interspaced with meaningless dribble. Nothing newsworthy about it. There was a time this was different. But Walter Cronkite is gone. Those days are gone. The “news” itself is mostly gone. We just have entertainment now. If you could call it entertaining.

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    I agree.  Megyn Kelly took the leader of CAIR to the woodshed on her show today and said exactly that.  Talk about intolerance. 

  • susiepuma-still a crazy cracker

    I will be writing to all of those congresscritters too – every single one of them and giving them my list of what I do believe should be eliminated by removing every trace from government, or by defunding or by repealing stupid laws that were passed previously – I do not believe I will be alone – and I will keep on them until I see action being taken or laws being repealed and funding stopped – I want a say in how my money is being spent …… like I said, I will be voting for Repubs on 11/2/10 and if they don’t listen to me/us – then 2012 will be another blowout – think they will wise up??  listened to BOR alias ted baxter – that’s one of his favorite sayings – he’s an elitist too – always talking about taking care of the folks – piss on you TB – I can take care of myself – just can’t handle the arrogance of these fools……………………….

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    I don’t care for any of those 3 either.  But I truly believe that Fox’s motto “fair and balanced” really means “we want to show you how irrational liberals are.” They go on there and are just making big ole fools of themselves. Who knows, maybe the exposure to the high degree of common sense on Fox will rub off.  btw….I tune out the liberals as well. SS is a MAJOR KOOL AID DRINKER. 

  • Katmoon

    Some of us were Juan a few years ago..he is in that betrayal shock time right now, next angry, then he will mourn, maybe he will come and join the rest of the cheese in the middle,  we don’t stand alone anymore.

  • ces

    Sharia law, or at least its tangental aspects, are already in place in Dearborn, MI. 

    Ramadan occured during preseason high school training. As they couldn’t eat during the daylight hours, they held practices at 11pm to the wee hours of the morning. This way they could at least drink water during practice.

    But they made the non-Muslim players practice at the same time, with the same restrictions. 

    There is a strong sense that this new population does. not. want. to. assimilate. AT. ALL.

    And don’t get me started on the school lunches…

  • greenlantern

    Rev Amy, I think you are such a great moderator/threador, giving people the support and permission to express what they need to do. I second your invitation to Abigail Adams to do a post here.

    I, too, see the Left hyper-reacting to things lately, blowing whatever lingering cred they may still have. All this agitation makes me wonder at what kind of karma may be coming down the pike soon.

  • Noogan

    Really good op-ed by Mr. Dabul. Thanks for posting it. He nails it. 

  • Katmoon

    Wow, wonder how Christmas(oops “Winter”) vacation will be handled there? And tell me do they still offer fish on Fridays as another choice, bet not.

  • TeakWoodKite

     political correctness ends and where political indoctrination begins

  • ces

    I got out of there (high school) just as they started busing kids from East Dbn over to the west side. We went from 2-3 buses to at least 13 that year. It wasn’t fun. And no jackets (no varsity jackets, even!!), no hats, etc. All things you associated with gangs. 

    People sued city hall to get Santa removed from the city hall grounds, even when the council sold at 10 sq ft to a private entity. YET, ‘their’ highschool had rooms designated as non-classroom (despite the school bursting to the seams, ala all those buses) for the prayers. So they get tax-payer subsidized prayer rooms, and I couldn’t see Santa or a manger or even stars for a couple weeks during the holiday season. 

  • TeakWoodKite

    “speak one way on NPR and another on Fox”

    Hell, NPR had Arafat on the air on a regular basis. Hypocrites.

  • greenlantern

    I saw that Sen DeMint put up a bill today to defund NPR.

  • TeakWoodKite

    or underware…

    Fruit of the Boom?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ya think he invite Juan over for a beeeeeeerrrr?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ya think he’ll invite Juan over for a beeeeeeerrrr?

  • Noogan

    Good one, Amy. I completely agree. No time for anything else, but great blog post. :)

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    LMAO, Teak. Hopefully it won’t become the latest in generation Duh’s wardrobe.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you so much, Greenlantern – that means a lot to me!  There are so many smart, funny, informed people here, it is my pleasure to be among you all.

    Oh, wow – good point abt what might be coming down the pike.  Scary thought.

    And thanks, Noogan!

  • Breeze

    -

    JUAN WILLIAM’S ANGER:

    I think I would be out for blood if anybody intimated I should see a
    psychiatrist, too….

    Isn’t that SLANDER?  What if Fox had not hired him and he had to
    look for another job, with THAT hanging over his head, would he be
    able to find one?

    Furthermore, he is the LAST black NPR employee and they fired him.

    If I were Juan, I’d sue on those two points, just on principle!!!

  • Katmoon

    Well, it probably won’t be for high Tea. =-X

  • TeakWoodKite

    I heard an interview on the radio with that wonderful American.

    He said and I quote “Obama is the president now and you have to support the President” He was speaking of the OFFICE of president. He said he would rather have been un-employed than remove his hat. He left the campus. He said he has not seen his son who is serving on that carrier but a few hours a year.

    The ONLY way Sotoro can turn this one around it to have this man and his son over to White House for a poblic apology. If POTUS let’s this stand he is will have commited a seditious act of misdameanor proportions.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Helenk,
    I heard an interview on the radio with that wonderful American.

    Hannity Radio? (Does anyone know how to pull radio files off his site? It really is worth a listen.
     
    He said and I quote;
     ”Obama is the president now and you have to support the President” He was speaking of the OFFICE of president. He said he would rather have been un-employed than remove his hat. He left the campus. He said he has not seen his son who is serving on that carrier but a few hours a year.  
     
    The ONLY way Soetoro can turn this one around it to have this man and his son over to White House for a public apology. If POTUS let’s this stand he is will have committed a seditious act of misdemeanor proportions.

  • Katmoon

    Sorta brings a whole new version of the “I see England, I see France, I see a bombers underpants…”

  • TeakWoodKite

    When some is saying you can run but you can’t hide…take heed

  • TeakWoodKite

    The alternative to de-funding? It raises the issue that ALL the airwaves belong to you and I and because of that thorny FACT, the standards of exellence are required.
    In fact, in Juan’s case Federal laws apply as direct public funds are involved.

  • helenk

    I was so angry when I saw the video that I forwarded it to many veterans that I know. This has to be made public. Please go down stairs  to the Hey Barbra post and copy it and foward it to as many people as you can.
    Very few things get me really really angry but this was one of them.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • TeakWoodKite

    That SUCKS.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Abigail Adams , bring it. O:-)

  • politicsisdirty

    Is there truth to the Soros connection?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Excellent point, Teak.  If the Time Square bomber says this is just the beginning, and to “brace” ourselves, I think that proves your point.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    There seems to be some truth to it, yes, at least in terms of his funding a “Partner Initiative” for more reporters (the following is a quote):
    “Juan Williams may be gone from National Public Radio’s line-up of commentators, but billionaire liberal icon George Soros has donated $1.8 million to hire 100 new reporters for 50 of its member stations. 
     
    The money will go to launch a project called Impact of Government, which Soros’ Open Society Foundation says will “bring greater transparency and accountability to the workings of state capitals across the country.”

  • greenlantern

    Thanks for this info, RRRA. I’ll just bet he has a project called
    “Impact of Government”! As in: Conform! Or we’ll send our goons to impact your heads at the polling place! And also,”Open Society Foundation “—do they try to make up the most Orwellian-sounding names for things or what?

  • Onofre’s arm

    Is this a great country, or what? While the ultralibs enjoy untouchable status when, without a speck of supportive evidence, they delight in constantly smearing an entire group of decent people with malicious accusations of racism and violence, and label them with a sexually vulgar epithet (Teabaggers), they also enjoy the vindictive power to chop the head off of one of their own for expressing his completely understandable concern about Muslims traveling on his airliner. I understand now where the term “liberal” comes from, because it must be very liberating for them to be cut free from moral restraints, to be devoid of conscience and shame, and to be oblivious to their own gargantuan hypocrisy. Gosh, it seems that liberals can do and say whatever the Hell they want to, so long as their bile is only directed at Conservatives, Tea Partiers, Christians, Pro-lifers, Uncle Toms who’ve wandered off of the Liberal Plantation, and anyone else with decent moral and ethical convictions. Liberals ROCK!!! 

  • socalannie

    Haha!  Maybe it should be called “impact of New World Government”.  

  • elaine

    RRRA, Please familiarize yourself with the case of Elisabeth Sabaditch-Wolf. Juan Williams only got fired, I think they are trying to lock this woman up, not sure. Gates of Vienna blogspot has a story about her Oct 22, 2010, “Elisabeth’s Voice: An Appeal”.  This is really important story.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    Obutt would say that Juan acted irrationally and that he should sit down with the witch from NPR and have a beer.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    To say Juan is po’ed is an under statement.  At one point I thought he was going to cry, I swear.  I cannot remember the exact comment, but at one point he made a statement to the effect that he is seeing the new DNC and Libs for what they really are.  Juan may have turned from blue to red, or at least from deep blue to purple.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Maybe “the temerity to offer unflattering analysis of Michelle Obama as a political liability” was Williams assessment after tuning into some of the many, many blogs taking on the myth of Memememeshill.  I’m sure the Progs don’t admit to themselves that she is despised by a huge number of women…for her dissing of the USA, for the affirmative action education she disrespects and for her racism and for her blatant hypocrisy telling everyone else what to do, eat, etc., while practicing none of the above herself.  The worst FLINO in history.

  • stodghie

    sometimes on fox i have become irritated with juan williams however i always have found him to be  courteous and honest in his opinions. i also support his right to express his views. fox is appreciated for having his back. i may not always agree with someone but i’ll fight for their right to express it. i wish juan williams the best in his new and improved relationship with fox.

  • getfitnow

    Rev Amy, re: Whoopi’s Hillary Support: Do we know if it was really support support?

  • getfitnow

    Perhaps Breeze can find/post Rodger Ailes’ statement post NPR firing.

  • getfitnow

    Can you imagine the uproar if FOX had fired Juan?

  • getfitnow

    10 years of service and he didn’t deserve a face-to-face. Unbelieveable.

  • getfitnow

    Sorry I missed it. I don’t normally listen to Hannity, but I wanted to hear an interview with a man that was banned from wearing an un-pc sweatshirt.  Anyway, Juan was on. He said Hannity was the first one to offer support. Hannity asked about legal action. Juan said he wasn’t there yet and may not be. He was trying to process all that happened and the way it happened.

    I have to admit, I don’t watch any news on TV unless it’s something special or breaking news. It was refreshing to hear the comraderie between the two men. They are good friends away from the studio, even, as Hannity put it, “you’re wrong on the issues.” LOL.

  • getfitnow

    Yes, this was the guy Hannity interviewed!

  • getfitnow

    Yep. We can’t let them forget or timid on the issue.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    ROTFL – yeah, good one.  Who knows?  When you have a woman like Whoopi, who made issues affecting women a central part of her one woman play, try to differentiate rape from rape (!??!?!), I think that says it all.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Well said, stodghie.  I agree completely.

  • ces
  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you, Elaine.  I appreciate the suggestion.

  • ces
  • ces
  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I tell you what, if Megyn Kelly ever decides to run for office, I will GLADLY contribute money to her campaign!!!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Let me help out here:

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Wow, ces.  Looking at these articles, it just makes me think abt our Jewish population.  Generally speaking, I think it is safe to say that we have not adjusted to meet their religious restrictions, or holidays, much, if at all.  Telling….

    And why Dearborn?  That is intriguing. 

  • TeakWoodKite

    Just so we are clear that Juan Willaims “concern” is based in factual examples…

    Here is one
    Taliban suicide bombers dressed as women and police have attacked the main United Nations compound in Herat in western Afghanistan.

    They have no compunction killing innocent women and children….yet it comes dressing in drag? That’s ok…. Sick twisted cowards.

  • ces

    Why Dearborn? It’s next to Detroit. Detroit = cars. Cars = Oil. 

    Just about every gas station in the Detroit Metro area is owned/run by Arabs. At one point, they weren’t paying “any” taxes, because the laws allowed seven years of ‘tax-free’ incentives. Problem is, the owners kept it in the family. Cousin A would ‘leave the country’, and ‘sell’ it to Cousin B, who would then get His seven years of tax free business, and so on.

  • PssttCmere

    OR….I see England, I see France, I see fallout from the bomber’s underpants… :)

  • AbigailAdams

    Thank you, Amy.  I’m flattered.  This is such a large topic and I would be honored to write up something about it.  It’s definitely a word in progress and it would be much more interesting, I think, if it was a collaborative effort here at NQ.  There are a lot of commenters here who probably know more about this than I do. 

    The issue of ideological indoctrination eating away at the heart and soul of our public school system is so imporant and yet so completely ignored among those who matter most, our families and our children.

    USA Today had a rather large article (posted here?) about MI schools accommodating prayer for a theo-political group and yet have to think about why that flies in the face of other religious groups’ inability to do the same kinds of things in public schools.  For example.

    I’ll try to put something together on this soon and see what you think.

    thank you for your kind remarks.

  • AbigailAdams

    Thank you, TeakWoodKite.  I’m a little nervous about your “innocent” emoticon, though.  Should I worry? *DONT_KNOW*

  • HC123

    Are you kidding me? Everyone had to do sports practice around Ramadan?

    How to the radical separation of church and statists feel about that? Just fine because its racist to argue against Islam? This appears to be a public school.

    Can I please stop hearing that Sharron Angle is crazy when she says Shariah is coming to Dearborn?

    You know one of the main issue for arabs during Ramadan is gaining weight? Its true, just pick up an arab womens mag, they are full of articles about avoiding the Ramadan 15. They stuff themselves until the instant of sunrise and then gorge themselves at night.

    If you want to live under Shariah, I will personally purchase you a ticket to Saudi Arabia. Enjoy!

  • Henry

    Same thing happened to Helen Thomas. 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    To compare Helen Thomas’ bigoted diatribe against Jews (who she said should go back to their “home”) to William’s uncomfortable feeling is a false analogy. Helen is a bigot; Williams was expressing a feeling.

    No cigar here but thanks for playing.

  • ces

    Yes, the ~5% at that team that wasn’t muslim had to practice with the rest.

    Even back in my day, when I’d run against their teams in city meets, there’d be girls wearing full-legged tights, long sleeves and head scarves with their uniforms…even if it was hot.  So, where’s that coach’s concern about their athletes when it’s hot and they have to wear long garments.

    Tolerance, my scrawny arse.

    Thing is, their culture isn’t the only one that subjugates women, even today. But it would appear theirs is the ‘only one’ that resorts to terrorism on a regular basis. 

    I’m so glad my parents have moved. I was so afraid that my parents would say something, or heck, fly the Flag, and something would be done to them.

  • kenoshamarge

    LOL Teak!

  • TeakWoodKite

    8-)  No worries mate.

    But thus: if powers divine Behold our human actions, as they do, I doubt not then but innocence shall make False accusation blush and tyranny Tremble at patience.
    Author: William Shakespeare
    Source: The Winter’s Tale (Hermione at III, ii)

  • TeakWoodKite

    8-)  No worries mate.  
     
    But thus: if powers divine Behold our human actions, as they do, I doubt not then but innocence shall make False accusation blush and tyranny Tremble at patience.  
    Author: William Shakespeare  
    Source: The Winter’s Tale (Hermione at III, ii)

  • TeakWoodKite

    Poor Helen….look at all the pop corn she left UN eaten in the front row of the press room.

  • AbigailAdams

    Fabulous.  Thanks.

  • AbigailAdams

    I’m glad this got bumped up today.  Did anyone see Chris Wallace reassuring Williams the the was “among friends?”  It’s quite heart-warming — you should see it.  Chris’s physical affirmations are very kind

    .

  • Yttik

    Candymarl, the real cincher is Making Obama Look Bad. That is the ultimate sin and nothing else matters, not race, religion, gender, nothing. It’s all about Obama. Shirley Sherrod was canned because she may have made Obama look bad, even before the facts were in. Juan forgot to praise The One properly and he made Obama look bad. Back during the campaign you saw the same thing. Samantha Power was canned for calling Hillary a monster, not because the Obama campaign disparoved of such things, but because it may have made Obama look bad.

  • JB in VA

    Another horror is when Muslim women accused of violating family “honor”, and therefore condemned to being stoned to death publicly or murdered by their male family members anyway, are given the “choice” of dying instead as a suicide bomber.

  • Breeze

    -

    Williams wins out in NPR fiasco

    Washington Times,
    by Editorial   

    Original Article

    10/24/2010

    How do you fire Juan Williams for expressing a common, if politically incorrect, perception? Personally, I’ve seen Muslims taken off planes as I’ve sat in Seat 10C. I pay attention in airports and other public places – many of us do. We’re not afraid, but we are aware; we’re not intimidated, but we are not blind to possibilities. Neither was Mr. Williams.

  • Henry

    It is exactly the same thing. 

  • Henry

    If William was white and he said those things of a black man he would have been labeled a bigot. A bigot is a bigot. Helen and Williams said exactly what was in their minds. The only difference is that you are defending and support Williams. I don’t support bigoted statements and I don’t care from where it is coming. 

  • Breeze

    -

    CONTINUED:

    There has never been a question that Mr. Williams was fundamentally a liberal in his bones. He made me crazy more often than not. Every once in a while, he would cross the divide to a common-sense viewpoint that satisfied my interpretation of what common sense is. Once there, he demonstrated a willingness to accede to the idea that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it’s a duck.

    Mr. Williams stood up to the “Oh, poor me, I’m just not responsible” mantra of black leadership; he castigated the culture of dependency fomented by this leadership and called for a new age of responsibility in the black community. He engaged the race issue with courage and intellectual integrity.

    He frequently was willing to follow clear logic. He was enough of a chameleon to be interesting, yet moderate enough on occasion to hold my attention.

    Most important, Mr. Williams was courageous enough to win my admiration.

    There is nothing here that exposes Mr. Williams for anything other than what he unabashedly is and what we all knew him to be. NPR stands exposed as intolerant, politically correct, shallow in its justification for the firing and unworthy of public funding. There’s no accountability but a lack of balance and sensitivities well outside mainstream America.

    NPR should have a plethora of problems, especially in light of its massive funding request. There are problems with the Congressional Black Caucus, problems with free-speech conservatives, problems with the media in general, problems with moderate Democrats, problems with Republicans who believe in the exchange of ideas, problems with people who appreciate intellectual courage and problems with people who are just “nice guys,” like Mr. Williams.

    Shame on NPR for its double standards. Shame on its commitment to political correctness and, in all likelihood, shame on it for firing Mr. Williams for reasons other than those stated publicly.

    DENNIS LANDRY
    Port St. Lucie, Fla.

  • HC123

    I guess NPR thinks we should all be like they are – bigoted and small minded people who pretend otherwise. The main thing is the facade.

    If we can freely discuss things such as our inner fears at any time imagine what might happen!?! Civil society might break out again, and we just cannot have that.

    It would ruin all the important progress of the last 70 years.

  • creeper

    Listening to Cooper actually made me sick to my stomach.  If that man is an example of “moderate” Muslims, we are in more trouble than we know.

  • greenlantern

    I am really pleased that FOX, to a person, have decided to respond in this way. They have shown a lot of class. I shake my head in awe when I think of my past life as a Lefty before 2008.

  • creeper

    “greater transparency and accountability”

    LMAO.  Where have we heard that one before?

  • creeper

    My dog…tried for speaking an honest opinion.  Orwell was right.  He was just a little early.

  • creeper
  • greenlantern

    “It would ruin all the important progress of the last 70 years”.

    It would ruin Obama’s agenda!

  • Breeze

    -
    -  
     
    Center for Security Policy President Frank J. Gaffney Jr. said,  
     
    “CAIR’s position that journalists like Williams should normally ‘suffer the professional consequences’ apparently created a hostile climate which may have led to Williams’ firing.  
     
    Since CAIR’s beginnings in 1994, they have conducted targeted influence operations in the U.S. attempting to censor any criticism of Islam, jihad, and Islamic Shariah law. Their targets have included dozens of reporters, elected officials and ordinary citizens, but they have never registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.”  
     
    The Center’s CAIR Observatory project tracks CAIR’s apparent violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).  
     
    The FARA states that organizations paid by a foreign principal to engage in activities to “influence any agency or official of the Government of the United States or any section of the public within the United States” must register as a foreign agent and report such activity to the Department of Justice.  
     
    CAIR has never registered.  
    [...]CAIR received $325,000 from the Saudi Arabia-based Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to demand opposition to speech that they consider “Islamophobic.”  
     
    The OIC’s “Ten Year Plan” calls on the U.S. government and other nations to enact laws “including deterrent punishments” to counter this so-called “Islamophobic” speech. The U.S. government funds NPR, which fired Williams, through Corporation for Public Broadcasting grants.[...]  
     
     
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/10/cair-foreign-influe  
    nce-on-npr.html#more

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    It is exactly the same thing. 
    =======================
    Exactly the same thing, huh? Where to start. for one, the comment is redundant, since exactly is not used with the term “same” in a single sentence. In the second place, you obviously don’t understand anything about comparison, i.e., analogy. Your argument is the false analogy, bought only by slack-jawed, mouth-breathers such as you. Why can’t you lefties learn something about logic and reason? Oh, I remember, because logic cannot be used to support your silly ideas.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    William’s comment was not bigoted. Which part of that simple truth escapes you?

  • Breeze

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    Fire Juan Williams Right Now! — Our Sneering Liberal Culture in a Nutshell  
     
    by Victor Davis Hanson  
    PajamasMedia  
     
    There were lots of slants on NPR’s firing of news analyst Juan Williams that reflect how surreal cultural liberalism has become. Let us walk through ten of them.  
     
    (Update: And don’t miss Ed Driscoll on “Juan Williams: Mugged by Reality.”)  
     
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  • Robb

    Obviosly, NPR acted stupidly. 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Hanson nailed it and NPR is *so* hosed.

  • Breeze

    Juan Williams Is Living the American Dream

    By Tom Roberson
    AmericanThinker

    The overwhelming reaction from all sides to NPR’s recent firing of Juan Williams has touched something deep in our psyche. Everyone who has ever been fired for reasons he thought were unwarranted has longed for the chance to go public and garner sympathy for his cause.

    We are all saying,

    “Way to go, Juan!”

    as we watch our post-firing fantasies unfurl before our eyes.

    This is the stuff of hit Hollywood movies. Juan was fired in a despicable manner by totally unsympathetic bosses over an incident almost everyone agrees is insignificant and unwarranted.

    On top of this, Juan is a…

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  • Henry

    Where have I indicated that I am a lefty? Are you a righty? FYI, I am a christian.

  • Henry

    The same way that the jewish people must be defended at all times.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    OMG!  It would be huge and he isn’t even the only black commentator on Fox.

  • jbjd

    A couple of days ago on another thread, I suggested Williams’ NPR firing could have been related more to his association with the ‘right,’ as evidenced by his simultaneous affiliation with FOX News.

    Turns out, there is much more to Mr. Williams’ group affinities than meets the eye.  Seems he also supported the appointment of J. Thomas to the SCOTUS.  And he didn’t believe Professor Hill’s charges that Mr. Thomas sexually harassed her, either.  But maybe that’s because Mr. Williams seems also to have a troubling record when it comes to dealing with co-workers of the opposite sex.
    http://my.firedoglake.com/phoenix/2010/10/22/juan-williams-is-a-sexist-pig-discuss/

  • Sowsear
  • Annie Soda Cracker

    Can we get The First Fat Ass on this right away?  She needs to be advising them about nutrition.

  • Annie Soda Cracker

    “bring greater transparency and accountability to the workings of state capitals across the country.”

    Oh Georgie boy, you slay me.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks, Psst – And EXCELLENT observation.  Yes, apparently, now we are supposed to have collective amnesia abt what happened not just on 9/11, though that was the most horrendous attack, but the previous one at the Trade Towers, the USS Cole, and the Marine barracks, and on and on.  I

    I can see why you have a headache.  Even my pain meds don’t make this any better!!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Well said, Katmoon.  You are spot on.

    My sister is a massive Obot, but once I made clear that Juan was not on NPR’s clock when he made that statement, even she started to get it a bit.  And I told her that it is against DC law to fire someone for their affiliations outside of work, and NPR is DC-based.  Add to that possible Fed. law violations (TeakwoodKite mentioned something to that effect), and NPR is in trouble.

    Anyway, yes, many of us here already suffered this kind of shocking realization Juan is now, an dit may even get through to peoplelike my Obot sister…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Ah.  Yes, I see.  Thanks, ces.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    No, no worries, AA – seriously, though, I would love to read more abt what you found out (I saw something this morning abt the Dem. only ballots in OH, btw).

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Me, too, Greenlantern – if anyone had told me 3 yrs ago, I was going to be a regular viewer of Fox News, I would have told them they were out of their flipping mids. 

    Of course, I had never WATCHED it before – I just believed what I was told abt how horrible and evil it was by the DNC.  First, I saw how Greta treated Hillary Clinton – such respect and admiration for Hillary.  Then I gave morning tv a try (Bill Hemmer and Megyn Kelly, at that time).  And a while later, Bret Baier. 

    Now I realize that I was sold a bill of goods.  Yes, they may have more conservative people on, but they have a lot of liberals on, too.  Generally speaking, especially when it comes to news, they are as good as anybody (if not better).  And yes, they have treated Juan Williams very well, not just in the midst of this, but in general, even when others on the panel disagree with him, it is always with respect.  That’s something I have not seen on MSNBC for sure.

    Bottom line, like so many things, I realized that I had been lied to – abt a whole lot of things – by the DNC since 2008…

  • Breeze

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    E.J. Dionne’s Proof NPR Isn’t Liberal:
    They Have ‘Conservatives’
    Like David Brooks On

    Newsbusters,
    by Noel Sheppard   

    Original Article

    10/24/2010

    The Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne said Sunday that NPR is one of the best news organizations in the world and challenged anyone to find evidence the radio network is the slightest bit liberally biased. To prove his claim, Dionne hysterically pointed out to his fellow “Meet the Press” panelists that whenever he’s on NPR, he’s often countered by “conservatives” – like New York Times columnist David Brooks (video follows with transcript and commentary) :(

    Snip) The first issue is, NPR is quite simply one of the best news organizations in the world, and anybody who thinks that they are liberal biased, I….

  • TeakWoodKite

    Didn’t know that about DC law, thanks Rev. Amy.
    Makes sense.

    NPR = Now Promoting Racism.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Bush and Mikey being the exception.

    Was Alec Station the code name for Ice Station Zebra?

  • TeakWoodKite

    FUBAR…(shaking head)

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I don’t care if you are a pimple-faced twelve-year old, although your inability to espouse a cogent argument indicates that you are indeed a twelve-year old. That you can’t discern the difference between a feeling and a bigoted statement speaks volumes about your IQ, which may be only in double digits, punk.

  • Henry

    What part escapes you that they did exactly the same thing? As O’Reilly like to say ” don’t be a pinhead”.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I don’t think this honorable man and his honorable son would want to be in the company of this Jihadist In Chief.

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