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Open Thread * More Sarah Video

By SusanUnPC on October 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM in Current Affairs, Open Thread

Lest I forget: You must check out David Brooks’ column today, “The Palin Rebound,” in the New York Times. We’ve had our disagreements with Mr. Brooks in times past but, like his great op-ed on John McCain recently (“Thinking About McCain“), Mr. Brooks’ review of Sarah Palin’s performance last night makes for great reading. He is a fine writer. (Below the fold, I’ve excerpted some of Brooks’ column today.)

Here’s Sarah Palin on that pesky Supreme Court decisions question:


Check out the earlier videos of segments of Carl Cameron’s exclusive interview of Palin — being released part by part on Fox — in my morning story here.

Here’s one section of David Brooks’ column today that’s worth reading in full:

On Thursday night, Palin took her inexperience and made a mansion out of it. From her first “Nice to meet you. May I call you Joe?” she made it abundantly, unstoppably and relentlessly clear that she was not of Washington, did not admire Washington and knew little about Washington. She ran not only against Washington, but the whole East Coast, just to be safe.

To many ears, her accent, her colloquialisms and her constant invocations of the accoutrements of everyday life will seem cloying. But in the casual parts of the country, I suspect, it went down fine. In any case, that’s who Palin is.

On matters of substance, her main accomplishment was to completely sever ties to the Bush administration. She treated Bush as some historical curiosity from the distant past. Beyond that, Palin broke no new ground, though she toured the landscape of McCain policy positions with surprising fluency. Like the last debate, this one was surprisingly wonky — a lifetime subscription to Congressional Quarterly. Palin could not match Biden when it came to policy detail, but she never obviously floundered. …

Now, back to you — OPEN THREAD!

  • Urban Hillbilly

    I’ll be going to Katie’s restaurant tonight, because I’m on a diet.

    • Pennsylvania goes RED!

      sounds like a plan…

      And I heard Katie, who’s been dead 14 years, is voting the n0bama binBiden ticket. Eight times.

      • McHope

        ROFL.

      • Goblintrain

        Ya, my little black lab pup is registered to vote for BO too. Try explaining presidential politics to a 12 week old puppy! All she sees is that BO looks tastier than McCain. She’s still too young to understand that what you see isn’t always the same as what you get.

  • benny

    since its an open thread…..

    a bit of humour…..a song titled ‘I got a crush on my vp’. hilarious….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpESyx58qmA

  • workingclass artist

    Property rights…she nailed it
    McCain has a strong case in reforming that and givin it back to the states…

    • SensibleWomanNOTforBO

      Yep, and probably a biggy in MO from what I gather.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmm…It affected Homestead Law in Texas which is basically sacred
        Repeal of that is what a lot of folks are lookin for. It was a good answer

        • SensibleWomanNOTforBO

          Eminent domain was a big issue in MO a few yrs ago as people who had property passed down through a number of generations lost it to eminent domain, and areas (even with just one blighted property among good ones IIRC) being labeled as blight could’ve been susceptible to eminent domain.

          I think it may have been nipped, at least a bit, not sure, would have to research the issue again. Could it rear its ugly head again in the future depending on which party has majority in the state?

        • vdavisson

          A big developer (whom I will not name, but if you google Fresno Running Horse deal 2007, you’ll see his name) wanted the city of Fresno to use eminent domain to force a local farmer to accept below market rates for his farm (which sits on land that would be very beneficial to revive the defunct Running Horse project).

          I am proud to say that our mayor, Alan Autry refused to do that to benefit Fresno, the developer or anyone else. He said it was a violation of property rights and he would not be part of it.

          Running Horse is dead again, but property rights were preserved. Sometimes it’s painful to take a stand for justice, but necessary.

          • workingclass artist

            Some texans are suing Jerry Jones and the city of Arlington…over the new stadium…chuckle…and there are just enough pissed off Texans that they might just be successful…This issue unites folks across party lines in some places…I’m just sayin’

  • katmandu

    Thinking about Biden’s reference to Katie’s, it just now occurred to me — 20 years seems like yesterday to someone who remembers FDR speaking on TV in 1929.

    Joe Biden is past his intellectual peak (if it can be called a peak). Sarah Palin’s brain is on the ascent.

  • Pennsylvania goes RED!

    Last night’s debate:
    The Doer vs. The Droner

    By contrast, Biden was glib and fluent and in command of the facts – if by “in command of the facts” you mean “talks complete blithering balderdash and hogwash.”

    Check out “The Diner of the Mind”, next to last paragraph. Funny!

    In a conventional presidential environment, Bidenesque fake authenticity would be enough. Up against Sarah Palin’s authentic authenticity, I’m not so sure. All I know is that the McCain campaign should have her out on the road and doing every interview she can over this final month. Oh, and send her snowmobiling hubby to Maine, which splits its Electoral College votes. He’ll put their Second Congressional District back in the red camp, and the way things are looking that could be the 270th vote that saves McCain’s bacon.

    • Typical Bitter Whitey Woman

      That’s a good idea about Maine.

      Someone send that to Mac’s office.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Great contribution. Thanks for sharing that article.

  • katmandu

    Also, Fox has a more detailed report than I’ve seen before on Barney Frank’s obstructionism to good housing regulation. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html And if you are not familiar with the fact that he had a lover who was a Fannie exec for years . . . it’s in the story too.

    • workingclass artist

      Xcellent Kat…thanks for the link

    • Perry Logan

      But c’mon. I know Fox talks about PUMA, but they only do it because they’ll do anything to hurt Democrats. Fox is not a legitimate news channel, and their exposes on Barney Frank cannot be trusted. Just because the MSM has gone bad doesn’t make Fox good. See the movie “Outfoxed” to find out what biased news is all about.

      And do you have any idea how many lies Fox has said about Hillary?

      The comments section of NQ is not very PUMA these days. If Hillary were our candidate, I’ll bet half the people here would be smearing the Dickens out of her.

      • TeakWoodKite

        their exposes on Barney Frank cannot be trusted

        Perry; roll the tape. I have all the “hit” pieces from that sector. I collect ‘em for a hobby.

        The facts are that Frank is up to his pot smoking neck in denial. He is lieing about his involvement. As late as this morning, on the house floor he was at again.

        • workingclass artist

          You know what Perry…What do you think PUMA means and what does it stand for?

          To me PUMA = PISSED OFF DEMOCRATS WHO WILL WORK TO RID THEIR PARTY OF CORRUPT LEADERS WHO TWISTED AND ILLEGALLY SELECTED A CANDIATE AND WHO SOLD THE PARTY’S PRINCIPLES DOWN THE RIVER! AND THE LEADER OF PUMA IF HE WERE ALIVE WOULD BE FDR….YOUR PUMA GUILTCRAP IS GETTIN AS OLD AS YOUR EMBARRASSING VIDEOS…You Sir sound like an elitist fascist snob and a blind loyalist who would see the Party built by FDR go down in flames because You blindly HATE all republicans!
          You have become what you say you hate! Teddy Roosevlt built the Progressive Movement In America and he was a REPUBLICAN
          SO STFU Perry…and quit being such a snob!

          • workingclass artist

            BTW…Clinton is still my candidate but she’ll only get to run if Barky loses and we purge the party of the corrupted partybosses…sheeesh!

            Country First!

      • Ginger

        Hillary is not the candidate, and if given half a chance we will all make her the candidate in four years. Think of this as tough love, unpleasant maybe, but necessary. John and Sarah are decent people, and happen to be on the correct side of the “biggest crisis to hit this country since the last biggest one to hit this country”.
        There is no Hillary guilt here, because it truly is all for her. So get over yourself and move along….and if you really were ever FOR Hillary, why in the world would you be for her abusers now?

  • tzada

    SARAH SHOW: 69,989,000 WATCH
    Haha look who had the most viewers!

    Drudge Headline

    VP DEBATE: 45% Of Households In Top Local TV Markets…

    11.1 million viewers for FOXNEWS — Largest audience in network’s history…

    10,685,000 viewers for CNN…

    MSNBC averaged 4,412,000…. MORE..

    • John Smith

      I guess BOBO is not very popular anymore.

      • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com UBM

        Latest nationals…

        Gallup Tracking: OBAMA +7

        Rasmussen Tracking: OBAMA +7

        Hotline/FD Tracking: OBAMA +6

        Marist: OBAMA +5

        • HC

          Oh, hi UBM, come on in and sulk. The coffee is on the stove. I am sure you know where the cups are as this is your second home.

          • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com UBM

            I feel like y’all’s pet rat.

            • Brendy

              LOL – you’re close!

            • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

              I feel like y’all’s pet rat.

              Now That’s funny.

    • John Smith

      I think this debate will have much more of a positive impact on the McCain camp then people realize. She could have connected with with millions of voters. 70 million is more than half of the voters.

  • John Smith

    I made the mistake of turning to MSNBC for a second and they had the idiot “I have a feeling up my leg” on. This moron was talking about how anybody out of college with some instructions could have done what Gov. Palin did last night. You can tell this guy is about to loose his job.

    • benny

      Jon Stewart rips into Chris Matthew’s on his new book (Life’s A Campaign).
      http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=104548&title=chris-matthews

      • Pennsylvania goes RED!

        Littly Chrissy was expecting some love and instead he got called a fascist.

        When Jon said that I felt this tingle up my leg…

      • OhioMary

        Before this campaign started for years I just loved Hardball, tried to never miss it – Now, I can’t make myself watch it – every now and then I flip to the channel just to see if they have stopped the Obama love fest – but no they haven’t. I feel like a jilted friend who drives by an old friend’s house every now and then, to see if the new girl friend is there and sure enough – her car is in the driveway.

    • rw

      Does the smegal, lord of the leg, mean sticking to facts and avoiding answering when not know rather than making up shyte or changing the answer to suit the audience as Biden and Obama do….I’ll take the fresh face, uncorrupted Washington outsider ..straight out of college for VP, thank you.

      But for the love of God, Obama had 300 (THREE HUNDRED) foreign policy advisers during his FIRST TRIP EVER to meet with foreign leaders. What does that make him, straight our of pre-school? And he wants to be POTUS!!!

    • John Smith

      I don’t watch the Daily Show any more but that was actually very funny.

    • Ginger

      I feel sorry for Tweety …he tingles all the time, it’s like he has some weird disease like restless leg syndrome, only it’s brought on when hot air is blown directly up his butt.

  • benny

    she was annoyed with the previous predatory interviewers. lucky she didn’t have her gun on her. :-)

    • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com UBM

      Katie Couric… predatory interviewer. “What newspapers and magazines do you read?” How dare she try to spring a trick question like that on Sarah Palin? Thank goodness Palin was fast enough on her feet to say: “Oh… all of them. Whatever’s lying around. …”

      Now that she’s got her confidence back, let’s see her do a press conference also. It’ll never happen, of course. Team McCain realizes it took the full effort and attention also of the campaign’s brightest minds to prepare her for that debate. It would probably take another full week of prep time also to get her ready for a basic press conference. You betcha! *wink*

      • karen for Clinton – 2012

        oh yeah, i guess that explains why when she was first announced there were tons of links here to information about her past debating skills (barracuda) amd many interviews and debates she had during previous campaigns.

        they were impressive and had you seen them you would have known that demeaning her was a sham.

        but you, paid obot sycophant knew it all along.

        it’s october, is your alarm clock ringing?

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    Mr. Brooks said: “Somewhere in heaven Norman Rockwell is smiling.”

    That’s a special compliment.

    • vdavisson

      To many ears, her accent, her colloquialisms and her constant invocations of the accoutrements of everyday life will seem cloying. But in the casual parts of the country, I suspect, it went down fine. In any case, that’s who Palin is.

      I thought the article was almost condescending when it came to discussing who is qualified to lead the country. We are supposed to have citizen legislature and executive (and arguably judicial) branches. When did we transition into having elite leadership and plebian followers?

      • workingclass artist

        Brooks is a snob…but sometimes he’s an accurate snob…

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    (CNN) — Fannie Mae said it will set aside the loan of a woman who shot herself as sheriff’s deputies tried to evict her from her foreclosed home.

    This is incredibly sad.

    I don’t know how you can make any more graphic the hurt put on people by the runnaway lending practices promoted by Fannie and Freddie.

    I hate the thought of this tragety being used for political gain, BUT McCain better tie Obama’s ass to all those donations from Fannie, Freddie, Lehman Brothers, and Goldman Sacs.

    In the VP Debate Biden said Obama sounded the alarm on Fannie and Freddie two years ago. BULLSHIT. Obama did not sound the alarm, he rand the dinner bell.

    COME AND GET IT!!! Get your regulation stonewalling!!! Just pay to play!!!

    If Obama was so intent on regulating Fannie and Freddie two years ago, why didn’t he support SB190 that McCain co-sponsored?

    McCain needs to expose the piece of shit Obama for exactly what he is.

    • Ginger

      I just want McCain to tie the problems at Lehman to the loans they had outstanding with Auchi’s bank…has anyone checked to see if they called them in and started any trouble there.
      I wouldn’t put it past Barry to call in a favor to create more of a mess….he seems involved from start to finish.

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      This one is odd. When did this lady get the mortgage to buy, when she was 85? Really? She bought a home at this age? Somebody subprimed a woman in her 80s?

      If she had been living in that home a longer time, why would she get a mortgage when she could have gotten a REVERSE mortgage with income? Something is not right here. I’m SURE she was not a new subprime home buyer at that age. What changed in her income at age….90? If she mortgaged a home she already owned, who got the mortgage money? This story has a really bad smell to it, including her death. THere’s a real rat in the basement of this lady’s life.

      How does she benefit by them setting aside her mortgage. She’s dead. Who DOES benefit? Who’s living in that home right now and who put that mortgage on it? We are setting aside a dead woman’s mortgage for he very person who may be the culprit here.

  • Ken in IL

    McCain & Palin need to be better acquainted with Obama’s record. When the public school issue was brought up and Palin mentioned her kids go to public schools, she should have mentioned that Obama’s do not and what O didn’t do for the science/math curriculum at Chicago public schools when he chaired the Annenberg Challenge. She needed to say the money went to ACORN community organizers to teach black activism and black issues.

    McCain and Palin that O doesn’t care if his constituents do not have heat in January as long as the landlord makes his campaign contributions. Californians had to sweat in the summer because of ENRON. Some state is going to freeze in the dark because of O!!!

    Hopefully McCain will be able to marshal his attack facts.

    • Ken in IL

      Sorry, didn’t proofread. 2nd Para should start:

      McCain and Palin need to point out that O

    • Ginger

      Washington state is still paying for Enron …. I hate those bastids.

  • Tuppence 411

    I am so glad she got the chance to go back and fix the Supreme Court question. She got trapped by Katie asking for “cases”. Now c’mon, most us us non-lawyers only know a very few actual cases by name: Roe v Wade, Brown v. Board of Education. But every adult has opinions on the contents of the cases. And if Katie had pressed for details like defendant or plantiff names and vote split; Sarah could have come back with a zinger “Unlike Senators Obama and Biden, I am not a lawyer. And thank goodness for that. Gssh darn the last thing America needs is more lawyers in Washington!”

    • sproutingly

      Right, Obama wouldn’t have answered any better. I swear this is War on Women year! : )

      You know, liberals seem to hate Palin because she just so gosh darned happy.

  • benny

    Its a bit disturbing…

    “Obama Youth – Junior Fraternity Regiment”

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

    • karen for Clinton – 2012

      our tax dollars supporting education hard at work to support oshitler and push his propaganda.

      What’s wrong with that? Nothing, move along and get in line and drink the koolaid.

      Don’t bother paying taxes, just send your money straight to the Obamacrats so he can continue to take over the country and then the world.

      Education his way is better, just like the Annenberg Challenge did for Chicago schools.

      Besides that, this film clip is from Missouri and Claire’s “truth squad” will arrest you if you say anything bad about ob, true or not.

      So get your uniform and grab a gun and join the “civilian national security force” now so you can best serve Biden’s Barack America.

  • Sarasota

    She is sooo awesome.

    There is a 3rd part to this interview coming out later.

  • tzada

    Palin slams Obama…

    …She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be President of the United States, “Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief.” Palin said, “Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That’s reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for.”
    Watch the video
    http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/03/cameron-interviews-post-debate-palin/

    Here is an angry man…..Boy is he thin. Wonder what ails him? Why is he such an angry man? Bitter too, you say? His wife is too?

    http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20081003/capt.cps.nua40.031008183435.photo01.photo.default-512×358.jpg?x=400&y=279&q=85&sig=px2b1QDJ2tY1mq9Sfcx9RA–

    • Ginger

      And his hair has gone all gray…. hehehehe.

      • imustprotest

        Obama seems so angry to me as well….that’s why I don’t get this fascination with him as “transformational” and his hopey/changey image. He is very negative and is not inspiring at all. Obama brings out the WORST in people and Palin brings out the BEST. That’s how you can tell a REAL leader and Palin is a natural leader.

  • A Woman for Palin

    If we can not stop ACORN’s voting fraud done for Obama, I am very worried.

    I have always been wondering why Obama’s campaign donated $800,000.00 to ACORN recently? In exchange of conducting voting fraud? Can the New York Times or CBS, or Gwet Ifill do some investigation on this?

  • etc.

    Off topic, but this IS an open thread.

    Anyone notice that Palin released her tax returns today?

    Sarah Palin is “For the People, By the People” $170K in joint earnings in 2007 and $130K in joint earnings in 2006. $8000 to charity in the last two years.

    And Joe Biden tries to say he is the middle class hero.

    http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2008/10/03/palin_tax_returns_for_2006_and_2007_released

    Biden:
    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/12/bidens_tax_returns_show_little_charitable_giving.html

    LOOK PARTICULARLY PERCENTAGES OF INCOME THE CHARITABLE DONATIONS FROM MCCAIN, PALIN, OBAMA, AND BIDEN MAKE UP.

    ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

    Now let’s say it again = COUNTRY FIRST!!!

    • A Woman for Palin

      etc,

      Thank you for the information.

      Sarah and Todd earned about my husband and I earned.

      Just an observation. Today, when Nancy Pelosi talked about the bail out bill, the pearl neck lace she wore, probably is worth more than her annual salary.

  • vdavisson

    This blog is helping me see Democrats as loyal Americans again. I’m so glad the moveon types haven’t taken over completely!

    I’m thinking a lot more positively about the Clintons these days and hope they can lead the party back from the swamp.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I want to relate an encounter I had at the local Safeway.

    I was looking for clam juice for chowder and went to the service counter to ask where it was.

    A young soldier wearing his Army camo uniform, was standing there with a small fold of bills.

    Since it was next to the lotto machine, I asked if he had gotten lucky, to which he replied,

    “No, I am sending a money order to my wife and kids so they can have food to eat.”

    I was stunned. I thanked him for his service and he said.

    “I have not heard that much lately or in a long while.”

    I could hear the pain? in his voice. He reached out his hand and we shook hands.

    And then he said “Thank you”.
    I said “NO, Thank you!”.
    With his biz completed he left… the tears in my eyes did not.

    How I deeply wish that soldier and all of those who serve this nation never had the occasion to say what he said. I wish I could relay the emotion better. This soldier felt un-appreciated in a way the rips one soul bare to witness.

    We owe so much to these men and women. How is it that a nation that asks for volunteers to protect defend the Constitution of the United States.

    He had to wire money to his family so they could eat!!! WTF!!??

    I am so mad. What does it say that an American who puts his or her life on the line has be placed in a position of making sure his family has food to EAT?

    So to all those who have, are and will serve this nation, I say thank you from the bottom of my heart. To your families, say “thank you” for your sacrifice does not begin to do justice to deep debt of gratitude we Americans owe you.

    I can never know the emotion that one experiences of having served and feeling a trust betrayed. But my heart does.
    God speed to you and yours.

  • workingclass artist

    WOW Teak…that was powerful…

    • Jason

      Yes, and all my friends in the service are voting for Obama. And you should too. McCain/Palin is a shameful disgrace.

      Obama/Biden ’08!

  • Butter

    You know why I like Palin?

    No hate. I don’t get any from her. She owns her feelings and herself and is completely open with us. I relax and listen.

    It is so opposite with Obama. I get nothing but hate from him. He is completely toxic in his being. He lards us about caring for the downtrodden and I don’t get any caring by him for them or us.

    I’ve never felt so used as when I hear Obama speak. I guess I feel he is using me as his village idiot or something. I find him so offensive just when he thinks he is so cute. I know I put myself on guard when I hear him. Mostly I don’t put up with it and turn off the TV.