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		<title>By: McCain exonerated?</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-857205</link>
		<dc:creator>McCain exonerated?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain was &lt;strong&gt;exonerated&lt;/strong&gt;?  

&lt;em&gt;exonerate&lt;/em&gt; v. Freed from any question of guilt.

I suppose that definition technically applies.  Concerning McCain&#039;s attempt to intervene with regulators on behalf of Keating, the Senate Ethics Committee concluded McCain&#039;s actions &quot;were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate.&quot;  Instead, &lt;strong&gt;they criticized him soundly for very poor judgement&lt;/strong&gt;.  While he had not strayed beyond the &lt;em&gt;letter of the law&lt;/em&gt;, he had certainly disregarded its &lt;em&gt;spirit&lt;/em&gt;.  

&lt;strong&gt;Regarding the ethics and legality of the numerous all-expenses-paid trips and Bahamian get-aways Keating had provided to the McCains, McCain got off on a &lt;em&gt;technicality&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:  When McCain accepted all the perks, he had been a member of the House, not the Senate.  The Senate Ethics Committee didn&#039;t investigate what some might conclude were &lt;strong&gt;bribes&lt;/strong&gt; because McCain wasn&#039;t a member of the Senate when he accepted them; the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct decided it wasn&#039;t their jurisdiction either, because McCain was no longer a member of the House when it all came to light.  Both committees received much criticism for simply letting the matter drop.  At the time, the entire investigation was called a &lt;strong&gt;whitewash&lt;/strong&gt;.  

The Keating Five investigation calls into question McCain&#039;s character to a far greater extent than a casual association with Ayers does that of Barack Obama.  The investigation of McCain&#039;s dubious decisions and actions are part of the Senatorial and Congressional records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain was <strong>exonerated</strong>?  </p>
<p><em>exonerate</em> v. Freed from any question of guilt.</p>
<p>I suppose that definition technically applies.  Concerning McCain&#8217;s attempt to intervene with regulators on behalf of Keating, the Senate Ethics Committee concluded McCain&#8217;s actions &#8220;were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him&#8230;.Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate.&#8221;  Instead, <strong>they criticized him soundly for very poor judgement</strong>.  While he had not strayed beyond the <em>letter of the law</em>, he had certainly disregarded its <em>spirit</em>.  </p>
<p><strong>Regarding the ethics and legality of the numerous all-expenses-paid trips and Bahamian get-aways Keating had provided to the McCains, McCain got off on a <em>technicality</em></strong>:  When McCain accepted all the perks, he had been a member of the House, not the Senate.  The Senate Ethics Committee didn&#8217;t investigate what some might conclude were <strong>bribes</strong> because McCain wasn&#8217;t a member of the Senate when he accepted them; the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct decided it wasn&#8217;t their jurisdiction either, because McCain was no longer a member of the House when it all came to light.  Both committees received much criticism for simply letting the matter drop.  At the time, the entire investigation was called a <strong>whitewash</strong>.  </p>
<p>The Keating Five investigation calls into question McCain&#8217;s character to a far greater extent than a casual association with Ayers does that of Barack Obama.  The investigation of McCain&#8217;s dubious decisions and actions are part of the Senatorial and Congressional records.</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856671</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about Keating is that is all camp O has!  Nada else, zilch, zero for the zero.

However camp M is just starting.  Ayers is just the beginning and Ayers is pretty bad.  Can you imagine what&#039;s coming?

Cliffhanger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about Keating is that is all camp O has!  Nada else, zilch, zero for the zero.</p>
<p>However camp M is just starting.  Ayers is just the beginning and Ayers is pretty bad.  Can you imagine what&#8217;s coming?</p>
<p>Cliffhanger!</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856654</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was unable to get through to my boyfriend as well.  He thinks I believe in internet rumors and am being conned. 

Well, one of us is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was unable to get through to my boyfriend as well.  He thinks I believe in internet rumors and am being conned. </p>
<p>Well, one of us is.</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856600</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!

One of my saddest losses from election 2008, aside from the love of my life, is lsoing Colbert and Stewart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!</p>
<p>One of my saddest losses from election 2008, aside from the love of my life, is lsoing Colbert and Stewart!</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856557</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A video released by the Jewish Council for Education &amp; Research, which appeared to show several retired senior IDF and Mossad officials supporting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has proven to be misleading, with a number of officials who appeared in the video saying on Monday that their words were taken out of context.
It&#039;s not only misleading, it was an interview about what the next president was going to have to deal with,&quot; former deputy chief of General Staff Maj.-Gen. (res.) Uzi Dayan told The Jerusalem Post. &quot;And to know that they used this interview and took five seconds, and put me in a list of people praising Barack Obama… 
&quot;It wasn&#039;t about the campaign, it was about the political and security issues of the Middle East that the next president should be involved in,&quot; he continued. &quot;Nothing was said about Obama or [Republican presidential candidate John] McCain.&quot; 
In the video, the senior Israeli officials appear to support Obama&#039;s stated policy that dialogue with Iran would be the best way of confronting the current nuclear crisis. Dayan said that his position is just the opposite. 
&quot;I don&#039;t think that we - either the United States or Israel - should be engaged with Iran, because the Iranians will take advantage of that,&quot; the former deputy chief of staff said. &quot;Our issue is to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear capability.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017470356&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A video released by the Jewish Council for Education &amp; Research, which appeared to show several retired senior IDF and Mossad officials supporting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has proven to be misleading, with a number of officials who appeared in the video saying on Monday that their words were taken out of context.<br />
It&#8217;s not only misleading, it was an interview about what the next president was going to have to deal with,&#8221; former deputy chief of General Staff Maj.-Gen. (res.) Uzi Dayan told The Jerusalem Post. &#8220;And to know that they used this interview and took five seconds, and put me in a list of people praising Barack Obama…<br />
&#8220;It wasn&#8217;t about the campaign, it was about the political and security issues of the Middle East that the next president should be involved in,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;Nothing was said about Obama or [Republican presidential candidate John] McCain.&#8221;<br />
In the video, the senior Israeli officials appear to support Obama&#8217;s stated policy that dialogue with Iran would be the best way of confronting the current nuclear crisis. Dayan said that his position is just the opposite.<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t think that we &#8211; either the United States or Israel &#8211; should be engaged with Iran, because the Iranians will take advantage of that,&#8221; the former deputy chief of staff said. &#8220;Our issue is to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear capability.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017470356&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017470356&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</a></p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856524</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give him this video..... 
Young people Pledge to Obama

&lt;strong&gt;Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment&lt;/strong&gt;
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmIment

and this

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/more-soetorobma-youth-creepiness-this-time

How does your Jewish friend look upon Obama relationships with HAMAS and CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood?

What does he say to that Israeli&#039;s letter that said, &quot;We know who you are and who your friends are?&quot; 

Does your friend have a martyr complex? Wishing to submit,letting the Arabs finish what the German&#039;s started? Just print this out and lay it on his desk, if you don&#039;t wish to confront them. 

Wish I could send you the pictures in my mailbox that show the concentration camps after the liberation. 

Eisenhower told them to &quot;take lots of pictures because one day people will say this never happened.&quot;

First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give him this video&#8230;..<br />
Young people Pledge to Obama</p>
<p><strong>Obama Youth &#8211; Junior Fraternity Regiment</strong><br />
 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmIment" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmIment</a></p>
<p>and this</p>
<p><a href="http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/more-soetorobma-youth-creepiness-this-time" rel="nofollow">http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/more-soetorobma-youth-creepiness-this-time</a></p>
<p>How does your Jewish friend look upon Obama relationships with HAMAS and CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood?</p>
<p>What does he say to that Israeli&#8217;s letter that said, &#8220;We know who you are and who your friends are?&#8221; </p>
<p>Does your friend have a martyr complex? Wishing to submit,letting the Arabs finish what the German&#8217;s started? Just print this out and lay it on his desk, if you don&#8217;t wish to confront them. </p>
<p>Wish I could send you the pictures in my mailbox that show the concentration camps after the liberation. </p>
<p>Eisenhower told them to &#8220;take lots of pictures because one day people will say this never happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>First They Came for the Jews<br />
First they came for the Jews<br />
and I did not speak out<br />
because I was not a Jew.<br />
Then they came for the Communists<br />
and I did not speak out<br />
because I was not a Communist.<br />
Then they came for the trade unionists<br />
and I did not speak out<br />
because I was not a trade unionist.<br />
Then they came for me<br />
and there was no one left<br />
to speak out for me.<br />
Pastor Martin Niemöller</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856520</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!  OMG!  OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

please be true!

I am serious.  If Johnny Mac takes Obarfy down, I will vote Republican in the next 10 elections, unless they run a carbon copy of Obama the terrorist.

They are torturing me!

Johnny Mac, please don&#039;t torture America.  Torture Barky instead!  Show him what it&#039;s all about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!  OMG!  OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!</p>
<p>please be true!</p>
<p>I am serious.  If Johnny Mac takes Obarfy down, I will vote Republican in the next 10 elections, unless they run a carbon copy of Obama the terrorist.</p>
<p>They are torturing me!</p>
<p>Johnny Mac, please don&#8217;t torture America.  Torture Barky instead!  Show him what it&#8217;s all about!</p>
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		<title>By: bemused</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856453</link>
		<dc:creator>bemused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I had that idea when I first started looking into conspiracy theories (in general, as a type of mental activity, before I was really aware of Obama)and realized that, while most conspiracy theories postulate a strong driving person or coalition behind them, it might be possible for several conspiracies to converge behind a weak puppet who could somehow cover common needs of various conspirators. And there&#039;s Obama: serving the needs of Wall Street, communists, anti-Israelis, the perfect puppet. But, having been in Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iran myself, I had that same idea about taqqiya. It was a little freaky when an early McCain ad started off with a map of the middle east and scattered random letters across it. There was taqqiya among them for a second. Definitely a message, quickly noticed by the O&#039;s (and how many people in America knew about it and would jump on that obscure ad?) and quickly denied as a message by the group that put it out. But I believe the denial as much as I believe Hillary really wants us to vote for O.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I had that idea when I first started looking into conspiracy theories (in general, as a type of mental activity, before I was really aware of Obama)and realized that, while most conspiracy theories postulate a strong driving person or coalition behind them, it might be possible for several conspiracies to converge behind a weak puppet who could somehow cover common needs of various conspirators. And there&#8217;s Obama: serving the needs of Wall Street, communists, anti-Israelis, the perfect puppet. But, having been in Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iran myself, I had that same idea about taqqiya. It was a little freaky when an early McCain ad started off with a map of the middle east and scattered random letters across it. There was taqqiya among them for a second. Definitely a message, quickly noticed by the O&#8217;s (and how many people in America knew about it and would jump on that obscure ad?) and quickly denied as a message by the group that put it out. But I believe the denial as much as I believe Hillary really wants us to vote for O.</p>
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		<title>By: Postmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856425</link>
		<dc:creator>Postmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess MikeG has a problem with hillbillys....now that&#039;s racist I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess MikeG has a problem with hillbillys&#8230;.now that&#8217;s racist I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856382</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a long line of patriotic veterans stretching all the way back to the Revolutionary War and I have no intention of giving up the democracy they fought for to Soertoro/Obama.  You can&#039;t steal an election and win a democracy because once stolen democracy no longer exists.    

When Michelle Obama said she was not proud of her country until her mediocre husband wormed his way onto our ballot she insulted my father and mother, my grandfather and all my ancestors who went into battle for this Nation.  I will not shame them by voting for a man who does not respect  their sacrifices.  No matter what the Obama camp might say about John McCain, I know this is true; he shared their commitment to Country and paid a high price serving it.  What has Soertoro/Obama ever sacrificed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from a long line of patriotic veterans stretching all the way back to the Revolutionary War and I have no intention of giving up the democracy they fought for to Soertoro/Obama.  You can&#8217;t steal an election and win a democracy because once stolen democracy no longer exists.    </p>
<p>When Michelle Obama said she was not proud of her country until her mediocre husband wormed his way onto our ballot she insulted my father and mother, my grandfather and all my ancestors who went into battle for this Nation.  I will not shame them by voting for a man who does not respect  their sacrifices.  No matter what the Obama camp might say about John McCain, I know this is true; he shared their commitment to Country and paid a high price serving it.  What has Soertoro/Obama ever sacrificed?</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856353</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send the link to the Drudge if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send the link to the Drudge if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856328</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturday was my first volunteer day at Republican headquarters.  I was on the &quot;fraud squad&quot; We were given cell phones and a list of Absentee Ballot people.  We called to confirm/compare working numbers to names and flag unusual and no existent.

The sign I put up at my office building did not last 24 hrs. :(

Which goes to the character of an Obamonite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday was my first volunteer day at Republican headquarters.  I was on the &#8220;fraud squad&#8221; We were given cell phones and a list of Absentee Ballot people.  We called to confirm/compare working numbers to names and flag unusual and no existent.</p>
<p>The sign I put up at my office building did not last 24 hrs. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Which goes to the character of an Obamonite.</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856293</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should be his helpers.  Everyone of us, needs to send all the information we can to our email contacts and ask them to cut and paste into their own email and send one.

Campaign dollars only go so far, and our emails are free.

I make up short and to the point emails and or a short intro and the links to articles and videos.

We can be McCain&#039;s 527&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should be his helpers.  Everyone of us, needs to send all the information we can to our email contacts and ask them to cut and paste into their own email and send one.</p>
<p>Campaign dollars only go so far, and our emails are free.</p>
<p>I make up short and to the point emails and or a short intro and the links to articles and videos.</p>
<p>We can be McCain&#8217;s 527&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: DeaninMi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5251/late-night-open-thread/#comment-856223</link>
		<dc:creator>DeaninMi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, 

McCain shut down his operation in Michigan.

Funny how all of the 527s swooped in to fill the gap. I&#039;m still seeing McCain commercials every few minutes.

Maybe he didn&#039;t really &quot;quitted&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, </p>
<p>McCain shut down his operation in Michigan.</p>
<p>Funny how all of the 527s swooped in to fill the gap. I&#8217;m still seeing McCain commercials every few minutes.</p>
<p>Maybe he didn&#8217;t really &#8220;quitted&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he offered Americans a glimpse at the real man inside that nice suit, the Chicago Way&lt;/blockquote&gt;


So &quot;They&quot; bought him a fancy new suit, put him in a big mansion, introduced him to all the &quot;right people&quot; to feather his nest and further his political ambitions, leveled his playing field by getting rid of all the other players and called him the winner. 

Then they decorated that new suit with logos and ribbons and with a Cry of &quot;&lt;em&gt;Havoc&lt;/em&gt;!&quot; they &quot;&lt;em&gt;let slip the dogs of war&lt;/em&gt;&quot; on his opponents and We the People who dared to criticize him.

And before one vote had been cast they have anointed him and promised the keys to our White House with nary a conscience or concern   for We the People or our Nation.

But will We Guardians of Democracy allow it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he offered Americans a glimpse at the real man inside that nice suit, the Chicago Way</p></blockquote>
<p>So &#8220;They&#8221; bought him a fancy new suit, put him in a big mansion, introduced him to all the &#8220;right people&#8221; to feather his nest and further his political ambitions, leveled his playing field by getting rid of all the other players and called him the winner. </p>
<p>Then they decorated that new suit with logos and ribbons and with a Cry of &#8220;<em>Havoc</em>!&#8221; they &#8220;<em>let slip the dogs of war</em>&#8221; on his opponents and We the People who dared to criticize him.</p>
<p>And before one vote had been cast they have anointed him and promised the keys to our White House with nary a conscience or concern   for We the People or our Nation.</p>
<p>But will We Guardians of Democracy allow it?</p>
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