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Late Night Open Thread * NOW’s Time is Now

By SusanUnPC on October 6, 2008 at 11:30 PM in Open Thread

Is that a cornball title or what.

What’s goin’ on? (I drop my g’s too sometimes.)

HARP

Cuda is winning them over one by one.
Alan

I found a William Ayers reference to Obama via Google’s Book preview page.

Check out page 82 in Bill Ayer’s “A kind and just parent” book.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-fjb7_3Qjy4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=A+Kind+and+Just+Parent&sig=ACfU3U3Rulv3RU-AFLDui8ZU-XW81GyK6A#PPA81,M1

Vicki

Did anyone see CNN’s Anderson Cooper tonight? Over on FreeRepublic (I know, I know) there’s a thread saying he did an expose about 0bama and Ayers that proved that 0 lied nonstop about his relationship.

Just wondered. If/when I find a video link I’ll post it.

joe

Check out the SNL sub-prime clip that was mysteriously dropped down the memory hole by NBC. The billionaire couple is a real couple that helped to collapse Wachovia Bank. And good old George Soros makes an appearance. Some are speculating that NBC was threatened with a lawsuit and they deleted any reference to it on the website. But someone saved it from the Internet shredder.

http://patdollard.com/2008/10/it-is-here-the-banned-snl-skit-cannot-hide-from-louie/

Vicki

He had to take it down due to “copyright” concerns, yeah right.

Susan1968

I sent your Amazon book link to Sean Hannity & other journalists.

I especially liked the way Ayers mentioned Farrahkan and Obama are his neighbors and that “The Fruit of Islam” (Fraahkan’s army) provides security for the entire neighborhood.

Must be why Obama wanted to buy a house there.
jrterrier

I thought I read somewhere that Obama gave a blurb with a positive review of Ayers’ book — something that would show one more link between the two.

elise

It feels so good to see someone (anyone) from NOW coming out in support of Sarah Palin. That org. has been completely worthless in this election and, in fact, I have recieved some emails from them adding to the attacks based on her lack of experience. They ignored the pathetic record of Obama and he is running for president.

Snickers

I am a former state president of the National Organization for Women. I am still a state officer and on the executive board in my state. I was appalled that the National NOW PAC chose to endorse Obama/Biden instead of sitting this one out. I have contacted Mandell and told her I support her. I am voting McCain/Palin. This election has been a disgrace and has revealed that misogyny and sexism is still acceptable behavior in this country. NOW could have taken a leadership role and made a statement about this, instead the NOW PAC chose to implicitly and tacitly endorse this behavior by endorsing Obama/Biden. I will not renew my NOW membership.
Ai1een

I wrote N.O.W. several times during the primaries about their lack of action when Hillary was being attacked. Their LACK OF ACTION for the first viable woman candidate in our history was REPREHESIBLE and UNEXCUSABLE.

When N.O.W. began using membership money to send out their attack ads on SARAH PALIN I wrote them a blistering letter of condemnation and basically told them they would never get one more cent out of me for as long as I lived – and I MEAN it (nor will NARAL).

As I told them: In my opinion, a TRUE FEMINIST IS ONE WHO RESPECTS, HONORS AND UPHOLDS ALL WOMEN – EVEN THOSE WHO CARRY A DIFFERENT BELIEF SYSTEM FROM ONE’S OWN.

It is a sad day (or year) in hell to see that the NATIONAL ORGANIZATIoN FOR WOMEN has failed so miserably in this fundamental premise of feminism. It is a even bigger testament to Ms. Mandell that she was able to “overcome” the vicious mindset of N.O.W. to think for herself and stand firm to her personal beliefs. I’m incredibly proud of her – it’s not easy to do; no matter how old we get, there’s always peer pressure – our professional organizations are just another form of high school.

scorbs

I’m personally pleased that some officials in NOW get it.
scorbs

Don’t forget what naral did to Hillary which was inexplicable when O’s and her records are compared.
beverly leslie

Thank you Shelly Mandell from Now.

There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women: Ms. Albright’s response was a tad ridiculous.

Brendy

Ms. Albright’s response was a tad ridiculous.

**

I agree; how utterly childish. So what if Albright doesn’t support Palin’s “PARTY”, should should have appreciated her comments (kinship between women) and kept it at that or SAID NOTHING AT ALL. Big jerk! (I was gonna – I mean ‘going’ to add some unflattering (sp?) adjectives but I decided not to – since I’m a nice, decent person

workingclass artist

Oh she only did that cause of Henry Kissinger correcting Biden…Aaaaand it is childish…Maddy I thought you were bigger than that…sheeesh!
FranSC

I have quoted Madeline Allbright many times with that statement that I have loved. I was startled as well to hear her retort to Sarah Palin’s reference to the statement. This is especially curious when Madeline Allbright wrote about her close friendship with Senator Jesse Helms who was quite chivalrous toward Ms. Allbright.

Ai1een

beverly leslie –
That is the absolute PERFECT reply to Ms. Albright’s “response”! You hit the nail on the head! THAT HAS TO BE SENT IN TO GRETA -

Eden

Greta: ontherecord@foxnews.com

imustprotest

I think Shelly Mandell is amazing and courageous. She is one of my new heros.
fif

Thanks for posting this Susan. I asked in the Ani thread if anyone has contact information for this woman, because she must be getting slammed by critics. If someone can post it, we can send our support for being courageous enough to recognize Palin’s strength as a woman, despite ideology.

beverly leslie

If you google her name and los angeles info. will come up.
Snickers

fif,
Go to the California NOW page, on the left side are California NOW Chapters, click the button and scroll down to the LA chapter and you’ll see Shelly Mandell’s name.
FranSC

Exactly. Feminism is NOT just about liberal women who are democrats. The women’s movement was a bipartisan effort. It is NOT just synonymous with Roe v Wade. The women who have slammed Sarah Palin are NOT feminists. Feminists are about enriching the lives of all women – not some selected women.

Palin is furthering the cause of women by virtue of how far she has come. I am happy to have the opportunity to support a conservative woman. Even if Hillary were in the campaign now, I would NOT be slamming Palin. Like Bill Clinton, I would be saying, “She is a formidable candidate, but I just don’t agree with some of her views.”

candy

All the news is just so depressing I have to vent here. How is it that the polls reflect support for the neophyte foes up as the economy worsen? What is the correlation here? It’s such an absurd conclusion for people to make–economy goes down so votes should go to Nobama. Nobama is no solution to the economic problems.

Still, it is just so depressing to see that McCain might not win, not because of his lack of qualifications or Nobama’s merits, but because of some outside factor for which neither man can control.

Brendy

candy – since the current president is a republican, any and all major problems (like this mortgage/stock market thing happening) will always be blamed on THAT party. Since McCain is a republican – they’ll pin this mess on him EVEN IF HE’S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT in his approaches or ideas or even if he constantly voted AGAINST Bush on each and every issue – he’d still get blamed. It’s not right – I know. McCain IS NOT BUSH – but the easily led think so. And, of course they can’t think on their own. And to think that Obummer attracted ‘highly educated’ voters???
AnninCA

CBS has Mac within 3 points, which is a 9 point drop for Obama in a week.

McCain is definitely not out of it.

Seattle Moss

What we saw with McCain’s speech today was what we can expect tomorrow night.

McCain has been retooled!

I have been talking to several people who had been for Obama that are now supporting McCain.

They are fearful!!

By election day Obama and his minions will be Chavez

AnninCA

If Mac can put forth a clear and direct recovery plan that makes sense and is NOT in senator talk……he’ll win.

Obama has yet to really talk about this crisis and how to handle it.

Seattle Moss

The narrative has been written!
Obama and the democrats have lost Americans a trillion dollars. Obama was missing in action. McCain sought legislation to stop the subprime debacle and suspended his campaign when it came time to pass a bill. Obama showed no leadership by not getting democrats to pass the bill the first time out.

The solution is not to raise taxes as Obama wants..

History shows that raising taxes in this environment causes
“The Great Deflation”
which is far worse than a depression.
workingclass artist

I’ve been reading on blogs that Barky won’t be able to keep ANY of his problems with the economy…and that McCain can keep most of his because the key to his plan is to cut waste and build indusry at home…Feds are goin on a diet under Macdaddy!

workingclass artist

meant to say promises…scuse
AnninCA

Well, he’s been given 2 chances to revise the plan, and he hasn’t changed a thing.

I about flipped out when he said, “pre-school education is very important and not off the table.”

boy, that said it all.

dpvegas

Pre-school education? And what if both parents are out of a job? Seems to me that the bare necessities would be the top priority.

Brendy

McCain seemed to have ‘mojo’ in that New Mexico speech. He didn’t stutter, “ah” or “uh” around (like you-know-who, even tho’ ‘you know who’ IS getting better (thanks to Hillary); he stated what he wanted to say in clear understandable sentences and he got directly to the point AND HE WAS FIESTY and HIGH SPIRITED – that’s the part I loved! He seemed like he was determined and that he is SERIOUS about keeping America AMERICA and looking out for all of us.

Newly Independent

I’m cool as a cucumber. I know that John McCain will become POTUS in a few weeks.

Maybe it’s because as a former Democrat, I remember being thoroughly convinced that John Kerry would win four years ago. He was ahead of GWB in virtually every MSM-generated poll for months. Democrat voters were worried to death about the Iraq war & the economy. GWB had stolen the 2000 election – and there was still alot of bitterness about that. I didn’t think that any American in their right mind would still be interested in a Republican being President at that point.

The rest is history.

And history is about to repeat itself on November 4th.

AnninCA

Different time, in my opinion. I will always believe that people lied to exit pollsters. They voted for Bush, and they were Dem, and it was because of the war. People loathe to change horses in midstream in a war. They feel “unpatriotic.”

No such benefit to Mac this time.

AF catfish

Just in the last day I’ve noticed a turnaround in the press since Palin started hammering the Bill Ayers issue. Apparently CNN’s Anderson Cooper nailed Obama for lying about how well he knew Ayers, Time’s Mark Halperin is pointing out Obama’s Ayers lies.

I credit Palin – she highlighted Obama’s relationship with Ayers, and then when the AP called her racist for doing so, she said the AP is wrong and kept hammering. This woman will not be cowed. Also, she’s helped by Barky who wore out his race cards a few weeks ago, even SNL nailed his race-card routine.

Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

In recent times, I don’t know that there has been a better effort at the “attack dog” portion of the VP nominee’s job, than Sarah is putting forth in this election. She first established herself as a likable girl-next-door sort, and now she’s making jabs laced with humor.

I’ve seen the same tactics work time and time again when used by women in the board room. Keep the faith, folks.

noproblama

Unfortunately, America usually gets the kind of leaders it deserves.

Damn but I’m tired of paying for stupidity of others.

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

YO. Google is doing some gimmick where you can look back at their old indexes for an anniversary?

This is 2001:
http://www.google.com/search2001.html

Can we find anything that maybe wasn’t scrubbed, it’s supposed to be original google searches.

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

YO!!!

Use the link above. Type Obama Ayers, etc etc.

It’s a blast from the past, a clean look at 2001 google before things were added or scrubbed!

Here’s that juvenile reform Obama and Ayers worked on:

From 2001 google:

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/97/971104.juvenile.justice.shtml

Should a child ever be called a “super predator?”
A panel at the University of Chicago debates the merits of the juvenile justice system
Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings”–and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court(Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop of the Reynolds Club, 5706 S. University Ave.

The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago.

The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the University of Chicago Law School, who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Chicago; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent 7 years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher in the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher in the Detention Center.

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

John Ayers and Obama:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011207043716/www.cpef.org/cgi-bin/leadership.asp

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

NO QUARTER!!!!

Get to 2001 Google! Do searches, I am finding crap I have never seen before.

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

2001 Honorary Celebration Committee
Harvard Alumni:

Barack Obama, Franklin Raines, et al….
http://web.archive.org/web/20011218011828/www.law.harvard.edu/alumni/celebration/committee.shtml

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

2001 Trinity Church website:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010720125753/www.tucc.org/

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

2001 google

“THE CYNICAL COVENANT
OF FARRAKHAN AND QADDAFI”

(scuse the uppercase)

http://web.archive.org/web/20010503085434/www.jewishpost.com/jewishpost/jp0202/jpn202c.htm

http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

2001 google

Want to know Farrakhan’s dream, and how much money Gaddafi planned to give to Farrakhan to make it come true??

http://web.archive.org/web/20001211024200/www.sn.apc.org/wmail/issues/960202/wm960202-19.html

AF catfish

Hey that’s a good one Harvard’s 2001 bio of Obama:

Senator Obama serves on the boards of several organizations including the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where he is chairman, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund of Chicago, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, the Chicago Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law, and Public Allies.
jbjd

This is dynamite. BO meets (?) Mr. Raines, CEO of Fannie Mae, at a gathering of black HLS alumnae in 2000 and, 4 years later, Mr. Raines takes ‘early retirement’ from Fannie Mae, which at the time was already under investigation for questionable accounting irregularities. Then, in 2008, WaPo indicates Raines is advising the BO campaign, a charge Raines subsequently denies. However, no one ever mentioned these 2 had previously met and, as a result, never questioned the extent of their relationship. Kudos to you for this work. Get this to everyone before the debate.

Brendy

kat in your hat – PLEASE email any and ALL stuff you come across to FOX NEWS (esp. Hannity); Brit Hume is good, too. And, LOU DOBBS on CNN.

(I love ‘Cat in the Hat’ Dr. Seuss; is that where you get your ‘name’ from?…Thing One and Thing Two…)
witness08

And you may never see it again
MAKE A SCREEN SHOT OR PRINT OUT !!!

Cat in NJ

Or save the document as an Adobe PDF … on my Mac, I go to “file”, then “print”, then “save as PDF”. Most likely same for PC .

socalannie

Ayers isn’t just radical…he’s truly creepy. Thanks for sharing.

Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

This is funny in light of Obama’s decision to forego government financing:

“Working with Senator Paul Simon in 1998, Senator Obama was one of only four legislators who crafted and passed Illinois’ toughest-ever campaign finance reform law.”

http://web.archive.org/web/20011222150605/www.senatedem.state.il.us/obama/
Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

More curiosity. Wasn’t Obama listed as becoming a member of the Joyce Foundation board in 1998? There’s an article apparently from 7/96 listing him as a member of the board and containing various trivia about its activities around that time. Not available on google 2008.
Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

$$$ connection between the Chicago machine, TUCC … and real estate (“the church today is probably one of the largest developers in the city”?):

http://web.archive.org/web/20011014185221/www.chicagoreporter.com/2000/9-2000/church/church1.htm

Close ties to City Hall are not unusual for some of the city’s most influential African American clergy, especially in recent years, The Chicago Reporter found. During Daley’s 11-year tenure, 14 of Chicago’s largest black congregations and their nonprofit affiliates have received $9.8 million in city payments, records show.

The funds help run day care programs, build affordable housing and administer social service programs. Four of the churches got no city money. City support for the 14 churches and their affiliates has increased steadily in the past decade, from $449,699 in 1989 to $1.7 million last year, records show. Some congregations also received interest-free loans or tax credits from the city.

[...]

The 9,200-member Trinity United Church of Christ, at 400 W. 95th St., has garnered the most city funding of the 14 churches—$5.4 million—which includes grants for child care, meal programs and AIDS ministries. The city gave Trinity $218,492 in 1989, and funding has increased every year, to $1.1 million last year.

“If money is available, with no strings attached, we’re willing to cooperate with government agencies to benefit the community,” said the Rev. Melbalenia D. Evans, Trinity’s executive minister. “We do not help the city get votes. That would be a string that would be unacceptable.”

Bowen helped Carter Temple navigate city agencies after the church purchased an abandoned building at 7901 S. State St. in 1998. Williamson convinced 6th Ward Alderman Freddrenna M. Lyle and the city’s Department of Planning and Development that his church had a viable plan to construct senior housing and lure businesses.

The church is seeking federal funding and city tax credits to finance the project, according to Cook County Circuit Court files. A final decision is pending.

“The church today is probably one of the largest developers in the city,” Bowen said. Since January 1999, churches have purchased 23 lots from the city for $1, according to the Department of General Services. The institutions typically use the lots for day care facilities and affordable housing, Bowen said.

Starks calls this “plantation politics,” the practice of throwing out insubstantial gifts to appease—and quiet—the most influential members of minority communities. The city provides funding for church-based programs, he said, in return for political endorsements and muted criticism.

“Nothing’s illegal about it, but you can’t get [funding] unless you’re part of the group,” Starks said.

[...]

Rev. Al Sampson has never sought the help of Bowen or Daley, and his church receives no city money. On a steamy Sunday morning in August, Sampson, a short, stout man wearing a white dashiki, encouraged the 35 worshippers at his Fernwood United Methodist Church, 10057 S. Wallace St., to honor God as the source of their power.

“Give me my daily bread,” Sampson said. “That’s D-A-I-L-Y, not D-A-L-E-Y.” Working up a sweat, he added, “God is the source of our breath. Not Daley, not [Chicago Public Schools Chief Executive Officer Paul G.] Vallas, not [Gov. George] Ryan. God.”

[...]

He has remained a harsh critic of Daley, particularly the administration’s work with black churches. “The tragedy of black churches in this town is that they operate off privileges, not power,” Sampson said. “They have the power to make a change, but they’d rather work for Daley and the politicians to get privileges.”

Through Bowen, Daley has lulled black ministers into complacency, Sampson said. Many have accepted the administration’s argument that they are equipped to provide social services but not to promote long-term business development, he said.

MG – PUMA

Really funny SNL skit about the housing bailout and George Soros. Soros is described as “the owner of the Democratic Party.” Skit gets good about 1/2 way through. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhBEdgrOXxA

MG- PUMA

socalannie

This was hilarious! Thanks for sharing. I read somewhere else that SNL pulled it from their website. Glad its on youtube.
http://firefox AnnieCarmel

Nice to know we’re not the only ones thinking that Soros has been making mischief with the currency/financial markets to benefit his puppet.

wry

This is how I explained it to my dear brother. “Jack, I realize I’m a feminist more than a democrat.”

Sarah Palin’s life choices are what our fore mothers fought for. Her choices, and Senator Clinton’s and Dick Cheney’s daughter and her partner. Choice for all women, not just some politically correct ones.

I admire this woman for her bravery and principles.
http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

Now that you’ve mentioned Shelly Mandell and NOW here, expect to see some of the self-loathing Palin hatin’ “feminists” come here to comment. They’ve been hitting my site all day, saying the most sexist things. I am ready for them!

KathyNeocon

You Go Girl!!
Northwest rain

feminism isn’t owned by liberals or progressives.

Women are women’s worst enemies.

When I got married I kept my surname — and it was ALWAYS the women who gave me a hard time and some told me that it was “illegal” to use my own last name.

The world is upside down — I do believe that the poles have switched and north is south and south is north.

dpvegas

You know, it’s legal to use your legal, given name. To legally use your husband’s name, you have to legally change your name on accounts, documents, etc.

I’ve been so ashamed of the reaction of a lot of people to Gov. Palin. Just skimmed through some of John Dean’s stuff, and he’s got me madder than a wet hen. I’ve enjoyed reading some of his writing about Bush/Cheney, but evidently he’s gotten caught up in the partisanship…except now he’s totally flipped to the Dem side. Guess I should’ve known his judgement wasn’t so great, since he was associated with Nixon.

Skiron

Sarah Palin is going to fight for the middle class? WTF?

Freedom Fighter

When did Sarah Palin make it to middle class? Todd Palin only graduated high school. And her income compared to most politicians is definitely lower class.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

And yet even little Trig has more class than you!
Paul3triple

but i thought you were fighting for the middle class?
She is middle class. Ya know when you picked biden you bragged about his wage compared to others.
She IS the middle class.
But you are the guy who said obama is a god and you think Letterman,Stewart,and Olbermann are political analysts.

It is funny that you show how you really feel about the middle class and small town america.
You really despise us and just look at us as a means to an end.
That will be your fall.
Your polls are always so important, CBS has obama dropping 9 points in a week.

Freedom Fighter

How come every time I cite CBS as a source, you guys tell me it’s not a reputable source?

AnninCA

LOL*…..I don’t really pay too much attention to their poll, but it still is one that shows a definite swing back.

I think there will be movement tomorrow.
Paul3triple

I don’t give a flip about the polls. But you do. That is why i cited it.
Fighter of your own freedom

andySF

Didn’t your master said that anyone making more than 250k are filthy rich?

When making around 150k consider low class?

Are you saying that if someone did go to college, they can’t become anything more than low class?

You sounded just like your master, talking with two face and 4 pipe holes.

andySF

Didn’t go to college, typo.

Brendy

FF: Hey, Elstupo – that’s EVEN BETTER that you think Palin is not middle class; she SHOULD connect with even MORE people. Oh, excuse me – maybe not; those lower than middle class, other than the honest, hard-working poverty-level people who ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING, expect their welfare checks – what, the first of the month? These are your Obummer supporters!
Andy

Exactly AnninCA. The question is why was Freddie M & Fannie M. allowed to do so.
Andy

FF: you are an elitist punk. That is by definition what middle class is. You obviously belong to the “upper” middle class.

All your comments are such a waste, you are really dense….

Seattle Moss

Sarah Palin and John McCain are not going to raise my business taxes which have a direct impact on the folks that work for me that are middle class.

Get it!!

AnninCA

A lot of people don’t get that part of Obama’s tax plan.

BTW, did you hear Biden say that he would NOT raise capital gains until it hit 250,000?

I did. And it blew me away. Since when did he change that?

Paul3triple

capital gains have nothing to do with income.
It is a tax on investment capital.
If you want to buy some investments, Obama will hit you for double what it is now.

Obama also says he is not going to raise capitol gains on business.
BUT someone should let him know that business pay income tax, not capital gains tax.
HE is sneaky with his wording.

AnninCA

I know what capital gains tax is. So you’re saying that Biden misspoke about his own tax plan?

*eek*

Sometimes, I think these guys really have no clue.

Paul3triple

i would say misleading not misspoke.

AnninCA

Well, shoot, that’s too bad. I was actually perked up when I heard that.

He’s going to kill, kill small investors and retirees with this capital gains tax.

beebop

If there is anyone out there MAKING money, please send them my way …. paying capital gains is starting to look appealing!

Skiron

Oh please. It just means you as a business owner might not be getting that third Lexus. Or maybe you’ll spend two weeks in the Cayman’s instead of three this year. Boo frickin’ hoo.

andySF

And you actually think that wealthy American will be driving Lexus? Not very high information are you?

For you to think that the wealthy in this country will be hurt by this economy more that the poor tell me all I needed to know about your intelligent. You and Obama are of the same stock.
Seattle Moss

You’re such a dumb ass!!
Many of us invest in our companies and employees. You have absolutely no concept of what it takes to keep a manufacturing plant in operation. The electricity bills the equipment costs or the price of raw materials.
Since you’re so stupid…
I wouldn’t hire you to sweep the floors!

Skiron

That’s quite alright, I wouldn’t work for a PUMA if I didn’t have two nickels to rub together, because I’d know a company run by that type of brain-dead mentality is bound to fail sooner or later.

WildChild

Everything is bound to fail sooner or later.
workingclass artist

Hmmm…Skiron dating a goat doesn’t make you a very desirable job applicant…lol…High demand for those skills in GAZA so stay there

Paul3triple

so you think a family filing jointly with 3 kids in New york city or any urban area with HIGH cost of living making over 200,000 is in the caymans?
Who is really out of touch?
You guys are about an inch deep.
Seattle Moss

The first car these Anti-American obots think of are always foreign..
Well dumb ass..

I buy American!!
http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

You’ve obviously never owned a business. I had a small business with a partner and one employee once. Earning $250K in one year will NOT buy you a Lexxus when you need to pay more than one person. We’re not even including expenses in there.
Brendy

Oh brother! Skiron must think making $65,000 – $100,000 a year is rich!!! Yeah, I thought so, too – 30 years ago! Times and PRICES have changed, my friend. If you consider two people are working and making $65-75,0000 – that’s a pretty decent income (depending on if you have children/how many and your other expenses) – but it’s FAR from rich. Or, even if only ONE person is working making $100,000 – a family of four is STILL NOT RICH. I know it SOUNDS like a lot of money, but in today’s time – sadly – it is not.

Andrew

Even 250-500k isn’t rich. Money doesn’t go as far as it used to. When McCain said he considered rich to be about 5 mil, I think that was accurate. Anything less is just well-off or comfortable. You are only rich when you could reasonably live a considerable period time off your own personal wealth without working. Ask those game show winners how long their mil lasted, probably didn’t even make it five years after all the taxes were lopped off.

Cindy

Those so-called “feminists” don’t see how they are STILL trying to please men. They are so transparent and spineless.
I’m a housewife with no Ph.D or J.D., etc, and they’re making me feel SMART!

Cindy

i’m talking about the feminists AGAINST Sarah Palin.

AnninCA

Cindy…..very true. My experience with a lot of women who focus on that as their life work is that they are quite neurotic, actually. It’s not doing. It’s talking.

Newly Independent

Those so-called “feminists” don’t see how they are STILL trying to please men.

Yep.

The sexist men that don’t give a crap about those self-hating women anyway. Especially if they’re considered “too old” and/or “ugly” by those types of men.

AnninCA

Oh, but goodness, have you ever really talked to one of those types?

I can hardly keep from yawning in their face.

There is nothing sexier than a man who truly likes women.

And they would never talk the way the “progressives” do.

These guys are anti-social types who probably haven’t had a date in years.

Freedom Fighter

BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!

More evidence of GOP racism!

Rep. Barney Frank said Monday that Republican criticism of Democrats over the nation’s housing crisis is a veiled attack on the poor that’s racially motivated.

“They get to take things out on poor people,” Frank said at a mortgage foreclosure symposium in Boston. “Let’s be honest: The fact that some of the poor people are black doesn’t hurt them either, from their standpoint. This is an effort, I believe, to appeal to a kind of anger in people.”

Seattle Moss

No matter how you spin it baby..
The democrats are responsible for the greatest economic collapse in history.

For the next 3 weeks…. 24/7..

Perry Logan

Either that, or the Republicans have engineered the Second Great Depression.

dpvegas

Yes, the Democrats have engineered the Second Great Depression. While sitting on their asses and passing non-binding resolutions for a year.

I voted for them to work. Will let them go sit on their asses at home, now.

Perry Logan

Dude—the Repubs had control over all three branches of government for six years. They began dismantling the New Deal, screwed up everything, and now we’ve got a Depression coming. They’re going to have to take responsibility for their failures sooner or later.

I would cite the fact that George W. Bush—with the help of the Republican 109th Congress—has racked up more deficit than all previous Presidents combined.

And this was Bill Clinton’s fault, no doubt. That’s Republican logic.

As for the Democrats not doing anything, tut-tut, sir!

With the Democrats in control, There are countless investigations going on. Healthcare is on the table. The internet is safe for now. Our wounded vets are no longer lying around in their own urine. The Senate Ethics Committee is back in action. Many 9/11 Commission recommendations are being passed. A bill to increase financial aid for colleges has passed–the single largest increase in college aid since the GI bill. The President’s signing statements are being investigated. Legislation to restore habeus corpus has been approved. The Senate Armed Services Committee has passed legislation “that would grant new rights to terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay. The unions have a voice in the government now—as do gays, women, and minorities. The environment has a fighting chance. The House passed the Taxpayer Protection Act, to protect taxpayers against “identity theft, deceptive Web sites and loan sharks.” It also makes it “easier for taxpayers to retrieve property lost as a result of a wrongful Internal Revenue Service levy and directs the IRS to notify lower-income people that they qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit.” The House approved a bill spending $1.7 billion over five years for cleaner water. There’s a new House committee devoted solely to addressing the issue of global warming. And so on.

Also:

The 110th Congress has had more roll call votes this year than any other Congress in history, almost doubling the number under the previous Congress overseen by Boehner and House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL):
The House last week held its 943rd roll call vote of the year, breaking the previous record of 942 votes, a mark set in 1978. The vote was on a procedural motion related to a mortgage foreclosure bill. When the House adjourned on Oct. 4 for the long weekend, the chamber had reached 948 roll call votes, putting Democrats on pace to easily eclipse 1,000 votes on the House floor in 2007.
Last year, the Republican controlled House held 543 votes, and for historical comparison, the last time there was a shift in power in Congress, Republicans held 885 roll call votes in 1995. The Senate, which has held 363 votes this year, isn’t on pace to break any records, but has already surpassed the 2006 Senate mark of 279 votes.
Much of the lack of progress can be traced back to obstructionism by conservatives.
Approximately “1 in 6 roll-call votes in the Senate this year have been cloture votes,” noted a JulyMcClatchy report. “If this pace of blocking legislation continues, this 110th Congress will be on track to roughly triple the previous record number of cloture votes.”
It’s interesting that Boehner is criticizing the 110th Congress as doing nothing. After all, the House, under his leadership, met for just 101 days during the second session of the 109th Congress, setting the record “for the fewest days in session in one year since the end ofWorld War II.”

Less than six months into the 110th Congress, Senate Democrats have made significant strides in passing important, common-sense legislation that reflect the priorities of the American people. After nearly a decade of Republican control, Democrats have worked to restore fiscal responsibility in Washington and pass key legislation on Iraq policy, homeland security, troop readiness, veterans’ health care, economic competitiveness, ethics reform, the minimum wage, health care, education, energy independence, stem cell research, and Gulf Coast revitalization. Democrats are committed to proving that elections do matter, and we will continue to pursue the international and domestic priorities that matter most to the American people. Together, we will take the country in a new direction.

Under Democratic leadership, the Senate has passed the following measures:

* A fiscally responsible budget: a budget that restores fiscal discipline and will lead to a surplus, while cutting middle-class taxes and funding foreign anddomestic priorities, including education, children’s health care, veterans, and our troops;

* 9/11 Commission recommendations: a bill to make America more secure by giving our first responders the tools they need to keep us safe; making it more difficult for potential terrorists to travel into our country; advancing efforts to secure our rail, air, and mass transit systems; and improving intelligence and information sharing between state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies;

* Homeland security funding: legislation that provides $1.05 billion in funding necessary to address dangerous border and transit vulnerabilities left open by the Bush Administration since 9/11;

* Support for our troops: legislation funding the President’s requests for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, including $1.2 billion in additional funding for a total of $3 billion to provide our troops in Iraq with mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles;

* Health care for wounded soldiers and veterans: legislation that provides $3 billion in supplemental funds for military health care and $1.8 billion in supplemental funds to the Department of Veterans’ Affairs to accommodate the increasing number of new veterans returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan;

* Benchmarks for Iraq: legislation that conditions U.S. economic support for the Iraqi government on its progress toward achieving key political benchmarks;

* National Guard readiness: legislation to provide an additional $1 billion to President Bush’s request for National Guard equipment needs to remedy equipment shortfalls that are compromising the quality of force training and limiting the Guard’s ability to quickly respond to natural and potential man-made disasters at home;

* Continuing Resolution: legislation providing funding for the nine remaining appropriations bills that were not completed by Republicans in the 109th Congress. In passing this legislation, Democrats stayed within budget limits, eliminated earmarks, and increased funding for national priorities, including veterans’ medical care, Pell grants, elementary and secondary education, the National Institutes of Health, state and local law enforcement, and global AIDS prevention and treatment;
* Energy Bill: landmark legislation to increase our energy independence, strengthen the economy, reduce global warming emissions, and protect American consumers.

* American competitiveness: bipartisan legislation to increase the nation’s investment in basic and innovative research; strengthen educational opportunities in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics from elementary through graduate school; and develop the infrastructure needed to enhance innovation and competitiveness in the United States;

* Ethics and lobbying reform: a bill to slow the “revolving door” for former Senators and staff, strengthen limits on gifts and travel, expand lobbying disclosure requirements, establish a study commission on ethics and lobbying, prohibit pensions for Members of Congress convicted of certain crimes, and implement reform procedures relating to earmarks and conference reports;

* Minimum wage: legislation to increase the federal minimum wage to $7.25/hour;

* Middle-class tax cuts: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for permanent extensions of the Marriage Penalty tax relief, the $1,000 refundable Child Tax Credit; the 10 percent income tax bracket; the adoption tax credit; the dependent care tax credit; U.S. soldiers’ combat pay for the earned income tax credit; and reform of the estate tax to protect small businesses and family farms;

* AMT patch: the 2008 Budget Resolution ensures that the number of taxpayers subject to the alternative minimum tax will not increase in 2007, giving Congress and the Administration time to come up with a permanent solution;

* Head Start: a bill to expand eligibility for the Head Start program;
* Stem cell research: legislation to expand the number of human embryonic stem cells eligible for federally-funded research;

* Children’s health coverage: the 2008 Budget Resolution and the 2007 Emergency Supplemental provide needed funds for the Children’s Health Insurance Program;

* FDA reauthorization: a bill to greatly improve the Food and Drug Administration’s oversight of drug safety;

* Rebuilding the Gulf Coast: legislation providing a total of $6.4 billion for victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, including $1.3 billion to complete levee and drainage repairs, $50 million to reduce violent crime in Gulf Coast states, and $110 million to repair the seafood and fisheries industries, which is vital to the region’s economic recovery;

* Army Corps reform: legislation to ensure that the Army Corps of Engineers does its job more effectively and soundly;

* Disaster assistance for small businesses: legislation providing recovery assistance for small businesses impacted by the 2005 hurricanes in an effort to revitalize the Gulf Coast economy;

* U.S. Attorney appointments: legislation ending the indefinite appointment of interim U.S. Attorneys and restoring the role of the Senate in the selection of U.S. Attorneys;

* Tax relief for small businesses: legislation providing a range of deficit-neutral tax incentives designed to help small businesses grow;

* Education and training: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for the largest increase since 2002 in funding for elementary and secondary programs; and

* Energy and environment programs: legislation increasing funding for basic science research at the Department of Energy and for energy efficiency and renewable energy programs.
http://www.apostille.us

/news/democratic_accomplishments_in_the_110th_congress_leading_america_in_a_new_direction.shtml

AnninCA

Some of the discussion has been downright racial. The CRA is sure taking a beating, which is a real shame.

That is a great program, and it worked very well until Freddie and Fannie lobbied and won the right to take more risks than they should have.

The program became highly irresponsible, but it had nothing to do with the origins of it.
Dr. Kate

no that is the race card being played by barney frank who, along with other dems, refused to beleive something was wrong with management at fannie and freddie. same old same old trick–when you’re questioned, pull the race card.

sorry charlie, no cigar there. you are too DUMB to know what FREE is, freedumb.

http://medusa2.wordpress.com Medusa

Do not waste your breath on “Freedom Fighter.” He’s not worth it.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 22:28:03

Senator Obama is a gift from God, there is no need to look at his resume.

KathyNeocon

Senator Obama is a gift from God, there is no need to look at his resume.

Spoken like a true Obot. FF has been trained up nicely.
Freedom Fighter

House speaker Nancy Pelosi:

Obama is God’s Gift to America

WildChild

then he must be the gift of a lesser God. Perhaps even a godling or a teensy weensy baby god. LOL and we sure know what kind of gifts they leave…
andySF

Is he Hindu? It must be one of their most powerless god then.

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

Shiva the Destroyer.

andySF

HAHA…

BRae

Anyone who quotes a woman with a 9% popularity rating as House Speaker really ought to think that over.

Is she the most unpopular woman in Congress?

Has her popularity dropped even lower after plying politics with this bailout?

AnninCA

Pelosi is the essence of WA problems. She is a disaster.

Perry Logan

I think Nancy is just unlucky.

After all, she’s trying to clean up the biggest goddam mess ever made—the mess the Republicans made when they were in complete control from 2000-2006.

This always happens. The Republicans get into power and pretty much destroy everything. Then the Democrats take the heat for not cleaning it up. That’s what’s happening now.

dpvegas

That’d be more believable if they’d even TRIED to clean something, ANYTHING, up! Instead, they’ve passed a bunch of frivilous legislation, non-binding resolutions, and written lots of stern letters!

They haven’t kept their word to us. Period. They’re a disgrace and I will not tolerate that, and I certainly will not reward such miserable, even criminal, behavior. They have NO excuse for their failure to take real action as our duly elected servants.

Andy

Medusa: Agreed !! He/she is brick dense. A total waste of time.

KathyNeocon

What??!! The race card is being played by Obama faithful??!! Stop the press!!
WildChild

It’s not racially motivated. The rich guys that totally fucked up the economy are trying to blame it on the poor. after all, It can’t be the fault of the rich guys with all the latest up to date info at their finger tips to make their business decisions by, using all their convoluted accounting scams to hide what they were doing as they wheeled and dealed us right up the the doorway of anther depression. NAAAAHHHHHHHH, ROFLMAO it has to be the poor guy that just wanted to own his own home that screwed the American economy to the floor

(yeah yeah, that’s the ticket)
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Yeah it is, and rightly so.

Taxpayers are angry that they have to pay for “affordable” subprime loans that people could not afford.

They are going to be even more pissed when they realize that Obarky wants to give out $$$billions more to those who took out the loans in the hope they will then be able to afford them.

Free Money From Obama Everbody!!!

But, only if you were irresponsible and took out a subprime loan.

AnninCA

Well, I’m optimistic. I’m just hoping the banks will rewrite those loans, take out all the ridiculous predatory clauses (which were usury in my opinion), and renegotiate down to the actual value.

If they do that, people can pay those mortgages.

Why the heck not? What do we want with empty houses sitting around being trashed?

That clause made sense to me, anyway. I don’t know exactly how they’ll pull it off, but heck, it’ll keep appraisers working, anyway.

That’s a good thing.

Paul3triple

yeah, that is what Barney said when the GOP tryed to regualate fannie mae and freddie mac to.
Now look where we are.
Barney frank is a toad as you.
You show your ass more and more everyday.
Obama is a god, Barney Frank is a voice on race, letterman is an analyst along with other comedians.
Are you fighting your own freedom?

http://firefox AnnieCarmel

It did my heart good to see O’Reilly yelling at Barney the other day. He deserves it. How is it tat MA sends us some of the worst representation?

socalannie

How utterly lame of you to copy Jeremiah. Apparently you never have an original thought or supportive comment to share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

This isn’t breaking news obot. This is what they said back in 2007 and 2005 to stop people from investigating Freddie Fannie as well.

Its more like

RACEBAITING!
OBFUSCATING!
DISTRACTING!
Susan

Freedom Fighter, what do you care about the poor (whatever race)? You were just harping on Sarah Palin because she and her family weren’t up to your standards!!

You must be a little addled, eh, FF? Or else, you just like to see yourself in print. Trust me, it’s not a very good impression you make…

typical.white.person

A/C 360

GRIFFIN: While continue work on the Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama and Bill Ayers also served together on a second charitable foundation, the Woods Fund. Among its recipient, Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church, where Obama attended, and a children and family justice center where Ayers’ wife work.

Ayers has strong defenders in Chicago, among them Richard Daley, the mayor, who called Ayers a valued member of the Chicago community. The city gave Ayers its citizen of the year award in 1977 for his work on the Annenberg Project.

For Obama, the chairmanship of the $100 million Annenberg board helped vault him from South Side Chicago lawyer to political player. And that, too, has another connection to Bill Ayers. In 1995, months after the little known Barack Obama became Annenberg Project chair, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced the young Obama as her political heir apparent.

Where was that introduction made? At the home of the ’60s radicals Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. The Obama campaign again says it is just a coincidence.

DUNN: A Democratic state senator organizes a meeting of her supporters at the house of another one of her supporters. What is the problem here, Drew? It is the worst kind of inference and the worst kind of politics to say that, somehow, that says something about Barack Obama.

.

GRIFFIN: Anderson, this meeting at Bill Ayers’ home has been classified in many different ways. What I can tell you from two people who were actually there is, number one, former State Senator Alice Palmer says she was in no way organized this meeting. She was invited and attended it briefly.

And, Dr. Quinton Young (ph), a retired doctor, told us this indeed was Barack Obama’s political coming-out party and it was hosted by Bill Ayers.
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

If Albright has a problem with the quote, her beef is with Starbucks, not Palin.

Albright just proved how lame she is.

One more in the line of Democrats I no longer support.

What good did Albright do in Korea and the Middle East anyway? She accomplished about as much good as O’barky did in Chicago.

workingclass artist

Maddy proved she still has a Henry K fixation…lol
Henry K corrects Biden…Maddy talks starbux…

beebop

Maybe Albright thought she could win Hillary’s early release from 0mama captivity by standing up to Sarach for him?

AnninCA

I think people have completely lost perspective this year.

It was just an opener, for heaven’s sakes.

EVERYTHING is so flipping over-analyzed. Nuts.

Troy

I can’t wait to see SoetorObama tomorrow night when McCain hits him with Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc…He will start doing his Porky Pig impersonation, “umm.. now wait..umm..a minute..uh, uh..no, no..that’s not..umm..uh..now here’s..umm..what I..uh..said”

” Ah-Blee, Ah-Blee, Ah-Blee, Thats All Folks”
abc1 23

A MUST-READ
http://www.savagepolitics.com
(NOTE: NOT related to Michael Savage)

Islamic Patronage
October 6th, 2008

Along with William Ayers, the unrepentant Domestic Terrorist who kick started Barack Hussein Obama’s career as a politician from his own house, the Junior Senator from Illinois has a few other DARK individuals who LITERALLY sponsored him into political prominence and fame.

One of the least known but most nefarious ones is a man by the name of Khalid Al-Mansour.

[At the link] you will listen to the man who actually wrote the letter of recommendation and pulled the right strings to get Barack Obama admitted into Harvard; Mr. Percy Sutton.
candy

Does the Ayers thing really matters? It didn’t work for Hillary so why would it work for McCain now?

I just hope that McCain can come out swining on economic solutions in the upcoming debate. He needs to sound more in control of the crisis than Obummer, and sound like he has a plan and that he will lead the country with stead hands during the economic recovery. I think that will go a long way. We’re wasting too much time on the Ayers stuff, the birth certificate stuff. If those didn’t work for Hillary they won’t work here either. When will they ever learn??!!!!

AnninCA

My theory is that Mac just wanted to juice up the scene until the debate.

It’s not significant, other than it’s got everyone talking about something beside the depressing financial news.

beverly leslie

I think it is significant. Barky started to tank in the polls when Rev. Wright was talked about. They will talk about Ayers this week, next week a new topic, up until the election. I think there will be some damaging blows 2 weeks leading up to the election. Paint the picture of Obarf, terrorist sympathizer radical friends and associates. It will lay a cloud of doubt over people’s heads when they walk into the voting booth.

AnninCA

I do agree. He’ll keep up the attacks. I just mean I don’t think it’ll mean much to voters.

I’m fairly certain that if Mac can deliver a cogent recovery plan, he’ll win.

That is what people want from him.

And he already has their trust in his character.

The far left? Who cares. It’s middle-America that is undecided or soft.
cynic

That McCain and Palin are wasting valuable campaign time yaking about an irrelevant 1960s political radical while the entire national economy falls apart might also be creating a few serious doubts.

They think it’s working because it energizes their crowds. The problem is that their crowds already support them.

Andrew

What is Obama doing, bringing up Keating 5, and issue that is from the 1980s and ended in the acquittal of McCain. Ayers is probably sitting around Obama’s campaign headquarters talking about communism with Obama.

Mr. Natural

Good question.

Apparently Obama didn’t notice that four of the Keating Five

Were Democrats.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Hillary did not and could not push the Ayers issue because Bill Clinton pardoned at least one member of the Weather underground who drove a getaway car in a bank robbery when a bank gurad was shot dead.

If Hillary beat up Obama about Ayers, Obama would have brought up Clinton’s Wehter Undergound and Alinsky connections.

If Hillary beat Obama, McCain would have had a free Weather Underground pie to plant in Hillary’s face.

Hillary had more Weather dirt on O’barky, but couldn’t use it. Rumor has it, that she is sharing it McCain. Look for it this week.

http://deleted Buzz Latte

Thanks for your opinion rotten candy.

Now run along before anyone notices that you know nothing about politics.

Too bad about your brain.

candy

you’re a freakin dork. I supported Hillary. I support the McCain/Palin ticket. I’m concerned and want to talk. If all you want to do is to sit inside the protective bubble of your own puny brain that’s your prerogative but leave me out of it.

Paul3triple

candy, hillary never pushed it. It was also a hard sell for her. Why? because Bill Clinton pardoned 3 weathermen.
Also, Hillary DID start wining when obama’s past started to haunt him.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Exactly.
Andrew

I know, by the end of the primary, Hillary was smashing Nobama and he couldn’t do anything about it. If she had devised her strategy earlier, Nobama would have been toast and I would be more comfortable with this election. I’m a conservative and I have had my problems with the Clintons but I know that even if I don’t agree with them, they have America’s interests at heart. With Obama, we don’t know where he interests are. He is so creepy. This election would be so much less stressful if it were Hillary v. McCain. If McCain lost, I would feel a little bad but I would get over it. If McCain loses to Obama, I might need to take some time off to deal with an emotional breakdown. I get very nervous about these things. When the Dems took control, I could feel it in my bones that something bad was going to happen, now we have the financial crisis. I have that same feeling with Nobama. Scary!!!!

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

Imagine how some of us PUMAs feel! I have been posting an anti-Obama blog for months now. If Obama wins (note I did not say “elected”) and he goes postal and comes after us with his Truth Squad, we could end up in jail or worse.

Seattle Moss

If Obama wins this country will remain divided and bitter.
Any attempts to change the American way will lead to a permanent Republican majority in the off season elections.
However,I do share your concerns as History has a habit of surprises

c17wife

Andrew, I totally agree with you. My husband is deployed right now and I am taking my kids on a cruise to the eastern med three days after the election. (We live in Europe and no, we aren’t elitest, just a military family trying to take advantage of our travel opportunities while we can). I’ll either be celebrating, or in denial for a week. Hopefully it will be enough.

About midway through the primaries, I was rooting for Hillary to win. I even sent her a donation.
I can not stand Barack and I hate how the democrats treated Hillary. And by extension, our country. Their primary/caucus system turned into nothing more than a banana republic. And now they seek to do the same in the general election.
It is my hope that Barack is defeated and that the rank and file of the democrats kick out all the leftists and start over. America is better when we have two strong parties keeping each other in check.

john

i think you guys are fair minded and this republican welcomes you to vote against obama with us. the country is at risk and it is not acceptable to have barack obama as our president. mccain is a fair man and will work for all americans.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

All of us except Perry and McBush Boy are well on board.

McBush

All of us except Perry and McBush Boy are well on board.

And about 53% of the rest of the country. I do however enjoy the fantasy island mentality. It’s like being in the huddle of the Bad News Bears (NQ) when they’re getting ready to play the Boston Red Sox. Listening to all of you pump each other up. It’s really entertaining. lol lol

AnninCA

He may pull out this election. But the truth is?

Either winner isn’t much of a winner.

Definitely, the narrative of how the Dem guy will usher the country into a new and more liberal land? Shot down. Obviously, the economy can’t support it.

So…to me? Rather have an older candidate bridge or see the first AA guy shot down after 4 years, which will be a great deal more painful for everyone.

And I state today and now. Neither one is at fault.

But…people will start to think about this stuff.

McBush

You know A why can’t your cohorts be as reasonable as you. I know I put you in a tough spot with that statement, but my point is I know we disagree but you seem to have contained the emotional insanity of it all in comparison. I know there’s no accounting for cowards behind a keyboard that will just type ANYTHING (like when Tim Russert passed), but you’ve been relatively consistent. The one redeeming value to this board. I say this understanding that you will vote for McCain. Sarah Palin I don’t get. When I come here I do it mostly with a smile on my face understanding that people will disagree. But the hate that comes from most of these people truly baffles me. This is the only political site I come to. What good is preaching to the choir. But I originally came for thoughtful disagreement, now just to chastise. I thank you for the former. God bless you for your tempermant.

AnninCA

I’m just a moderate. Are there any of us left? LOL*

I so loved the Clintons.

You know the hardest thing I had to accept this year? I had so many people at HuffPo who questioned my Democratic credentials.

35 years…..straight Democratic ticket.

Boy, that stuck in my throat initially!

But……hey, I got over it. I suppose I have become a lot more conservative on some issues, so it’s OK now to be slammed as being a Republican troll.

I did the same as you, btw, at huffpo.

(They are banning again. Things are tightening. Their base can’t handle it emotionally. *haha)

KathyNeocon

I’m in. I re-registered as a Republican this summer. When Pelosi, Dean, Brazille and the other DNC/Democrat moronic cronies kicked Hillary to the curb in favor of an empty-headed extremist phony, I bid adieu to the Democratic Party. It feels great–very liberating.

ObamaTrollsareIdiots

My first instinct when the whole crap started and I was banned from the DNC site just for asking about Ayers and the PLO back in January was to register republican. But, after time has gone by and reading many republican blogs I know that the only thing I really have in common with them is that WE BOTH HATE OBAMA.

I will probably register independent after the election unless Dean, Pelosi, and a few others are dropped from the head of the party. And then only if Donna Brazile apologizes to the the Clintons and steps down from anything related to the party.

I will vote McCain in November along with all of the democrats in my family.

AnninCA

I have probably more in common with moderate Republicans than you.

I’ve always been fiscally conservative.

I am liberal on several core issues, and there I diverge. For example, law and order types?

Oh lordy, they are nuts to me. By the same token, the progressive view of Palin is nuts to me.

She’s a conservative woman, who clearly operates from her “middle.”

Hardly scary. But then, I don’t find Obama scary.

Both are inexperienced.

That’s all.

candy

I think Nobama is scary, not for the reaons of Ayers or alleged Muslim ties, but because I’ve seen occasions when he slipped and showed himself to be really petty, and all the time to be totally self-absorbed, egotistical and arrogant. I absolutely believe that he will put himself before the country’s interests.

I also think that his cult of personality is scary. While I do not believe that Nobama is into genocide, his whole campaign and ascent in politics remind me of Hitler’s rise.

And the whole “change” thing. Well, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were all revolutionaries who did in fact changed their worlds. And look what greatness came with those “changes”.

I’m still waiting for the answer to the very basic question I had when this all started 2 years ago: Change to what?

I still have not heard the answer.

AnninCA

Candy…..he doesn’t represent change.

He is voting back in crony Democratic party politics.

They are banking on people hating Republicans so much (with good reason, I add) that they’ll tolerate the other guy’s flawed party partisanship, earmarks, lobbyists, etc.

Tricky waters.

When I bother to really look at the polls closely, it’s obvious to me where the public is REALLY at.

They don’t like either choice.

Andrew

With God’s help, we shall overcome Obama. I don’t put too much stock in the CBS poll, nor do I put too much in any of the other polls. This election year has proven that polls are virtually useless in predicting outcomes. I pray that McCain crushes Obama not with attacks but by taking substantive positions on the issues and showing that Obama has no position. If McCain just comes out blasting Obama, it won’t work very well. If McCain comes out with a plan, shows Obama doesn’t have a plan and then shows that Obama is complicit in the debacle, that would be extremely effective.

Andrew

I’m curious to see what the polls say after the debate though. I think they are biased, but if we see any movement in them, we can determine the relative change in opinion after adjusting for poll bias, Bradley effect, and error. For example, if you adjust the recent CBS poll, which I still think is questionable, and adjust it for a five percent Bradley effect and a two percent poll bias, the poll shows McCain ahead by 4 points. Wishful thinking maybe but I think these kind of adjustments are needed in order to get an accurate picture of the situation. Some polls, like CNN polls need larger numbers for bias. Some of them say that Dems make up 45% of the country, a figure which is obviously false. They say there are only 19% Repubs in these same polls. Another thing to keep in mind is that Gallup and Rasmussen are tracking polls, which means they carry with them two days of past data. I’m not saying they are inaccurate, I just believe that the accumulated past data often dampens the volatility of this election. It is easy to see that Nobama is not actually 9 points ahead. No presidential candidate within the last few cycles has one the election by more than a few percentage points. Electoral college numbers are worrying though. Still, each college number is influenced by polling data that may or may not be accurate. Furthermore, the polling data for the states always demonstrates a lag time greater than the lag time for the national polls. The sample sizes for all of these polls is much too small.

AnninCA

I like Jay Cost analysis on RCP. He says all those post-debate polls are badly flawed.

The only way to really know is by the polls taken 2 days later, which is now.

She hit a home run.

Andrew

Yeah, I mean if the country is 45 percent Dem, why aren’t all the states blue. The polls don’t make any sense. I used to trust them until the 2006 election. They started doing jumping jacks during the election and we ended up with Gab Giffords, the lady who doesn’t do squat and is now running away from Pelotox as fast as possible. You should see her ads, she sounds like a Repub. “As the only member of Congress with a spouse in the military, I am proud to say I went against my party and voted to fully fund the troops.” or “I am for tougher immigration control.” or “We need to cut wasteful spending in Washington and trim down out-of-control entitlement programs.” I wish she actually voted like that. Instead, she is paralyzed by the Pelotox and flip-flops on issues like the bail-out. Now she has protesters outside her campaign office with giant signs.

AnninCA

Well, this is THE big election. Nobody paid as much attention before this year.

The pollsters must be freaking out.

We’re actually paying attention to their forumlas!

Good gravy, these guys are just used to being casual.

Touchet

Palin’s comment quoting Albright was flawless and appropriate. I love palin. I want her and Hillary to join tickets.
Paul3triple

Perry is on board as well with voting against obama.
He is just blinded by hatred,partisanship, and propaganda.

tampagurl

I don’t know about Perry. Sometimes I think he just claims to be against Obama so he can get away with all the anti republican and pro democrat malarkey he posts.

Seattle Moss

Spot on Tampa!!

Perry is an obot that’s in need of a new suit.

Maybe he can get in line for a handout!

ObamaTrollsareIdiots

Not that polls have been meaning much lately but seems Obama lead is shrinking and not just the CBS poll:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4961BK20081007?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Touchet

This happens every week. They take a poll on the weekend when the high school kids are at home. Obama shoots up like 7%. Then as the week progresses Obama loses 7%.

Parents shouldn’t let their kids answer the phone.
Andrew

Before I click the link and am barraged by bad financial news, can you just summarize its contents. The financial news recently has been so devastating. Coupled with the Obama-crap, this month is starting out poorly.

ObamaTrollsareIdiots

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (Reuters) – Democrat Barack Obama has a narrow 3-point lead in the U.S. presidential race on Republican John McCain less than a month before the election, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Tuesday.

Obama leads McCain among likely U.S. voters 48 percent to 45 percent in the national poll, which has a margin of error of 2.8 percentage points. Four percent of voters said they were still undecided in the November 4 election.
Andrew

Okay I looked. I’m disappointed with the Independent voters. I still don’t know how you can be independent now. I mean you have a choice: Country First or Rev. Wright First. If you are having difficulties choosing between these two options, you have more problems than just this election. Still, it is encouraging that another poll also shows a narrow three-point lead. I don’t know what is up with Ras and Gallup. Maybe they are still retaining some residual data. I haven’t looked recently but does anyone know what the party weight is on these two polls? It might have been skewed to make Obama look like he is doing better than he is.

http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession

Andrew I think you will drive yourself crazy focusing on the polls too much. Even if they were conducted 100% on the up and up (which I don’t believe they are) they would fluctuate from week to week. Well if you don’t mind a rollercoaster ride I guess its ok. Try Dramamine for the motion sickness?
Touchet

They don’t get it. White people now a days are so NOT racist that they fail to recognize it.

I was at working talking to my friend (she is black), we talked about Obama and she said, “I have to vote for him, it is in my self interest.” I thought, wtf does that mean in your self interest. she said, “you know what I mean”.

So i will vote in MY best interest come november.

Andrew

My dad says he doesn’t like any politicians. (He is black.) But he is always beating up McCain and never has anything bad to say about Nobama. I don’t know, I guess I didn’t inherit that gene. If someone is crazed and looking to destroy my country, I am going to do everything in my power to stop them. I don’t care what race they are. If McCain were black and Obama were white I would feel the same way. If Palin were Chinese and Obama was Japanese I would feel the same way. It doesn’t matter what race you are, what matters is the content of your character. Obama has no character, empty.

AnninCA

Or maybe you’re trying to hard NOT to let race affect you.

I think your dad makes total sense.

I do not think Obama is evil. I very much disagree with some of his tactics this year.

But evil?

Nah*

He’s more like a bit weak.

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

I totally think he is evil, and after seeing Hannity’s program last night Obama is starting to scare the bejeezus outta me. I pray that he’s just weak and ineffective and not being planted to take out Israel and start WWIII or something.

AnninCA

Well, I think he’s convinced me otherwise. If he won, he’d be fairly moderate and cautious.

So, no……I don’t agree that he’s dangerous.

I think, sadly, it’s the Democrats who are not making sense to me this year.

It’s not just the behavior in the primaries, which was bizarre.

It’s now, too.

“Nothing is our fault!” Gimme a break? Did they think that we wouldn’t notice they are the protectors of Freddie/Fannie?

What WAS she thinking?

Ditto for the primaries.

It’s the Democrats I reject. Not so much Obama. I think he’s just like a lot of guys I’ve seen catapulted beyond his actual skill level.

Andrew

That is half the problem. The idea of a Dem Congress and President is terrifying. I can just see Nancy sitting up in the Oval Office writing out a wish list with lots of dollar signs and zeros.

AnninCA

Oh gosh……we tolerated Bush. Why not Pelosi?

LOL*

She is very, very stupid to me. Now that’s a term she’s earned through her real behavior.
AnninCA

She has no money to play with. And I think he’ll ditch her immediately, btw.
Cat in NJ

The current DNC leadership is evil, Obama is mentally ill (the narcissism issue, pathological liar). Together they will ensure this country’s complete collapse.

Andrew

You make a good point, but still, the prospect of having this incompetent man as president is scary. My dad doesn’t like McCain for other reasons, some of which I’m not quite sure of, but he says he doesn’t like Obama and then says that he would support him over McCain. I don’t know. On another note, I just realized that today, or rather yesterday, was the last day to register to vote. Don’t think my dad did so I won’t have to worry about him making any crazy choices. My mom did and she is voting straight Repub. She is scared about all the crap that the Dems have caused. She is terrified at the prospect of Nobama in the Oval Office right next to the red button.

AnninCA

Well, I sort of feel like your dad, I guess.

I think Mac has the potential and definitely the will to turn PARTS of WA around.

But let’s face it. The maverick story?

Pretty much fantasy.

I don’t like Obama. But I don’t think he’s evil.

It’s probably a toss-up.

BRae

Spot on.

AnninCA

It’s just a reaction to the crisis. People are emotional. That’s human.

They are mad. That’s understandable.

Mac is Republican. He’s got to be guilty. LOL*

I’d give it time. I think I “get” him. I know that Obama did NOT surge forth and take the stage away with a recovery plan.

Obama can’t close the deal. He’s passive. Whenever he’s ahead, he gets like a turtle.

That doesn’t win elections, and it shows his inexperience.

He could have locked it up. He failed to do so, and it has nothing to do with what the idiot progressive blogs think. It was because he didn’t come out with a positive, proactive plan.

Andrew

I think when the people get into the voting booth, the cold hard reality will smack them right across the face and McCain will get a vote. It is easy to say that you will vote for the new black candidate, it is hard to actually vote for that candidate knowing all we do about him.

AnninCA

Well, I have enough knowledge about Obama. I don’t need anymore.

What I see is a fairly analytical guy. He’s indecisive at the right moments.

That’s just his nature.

He can’t close the deal because of it. He’s very cautious.

I don’t go along with all this stuff about how he’s radical.

Opposite. He’s too “unbold” for us right now.

Obama is really not alpha at all.

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

Doesn’t matter how radical he is – what matters is how radical the people putting him in power are.

AnninCA

Now, I do agree with you.

They are incredibly stupid and dangerous.

Seattle Moss

Those radical types will find away to affect policy through the back door.

AnninCA

Yin-Yang.

Swing to the crazy left.

lisa in va

lmao! I refuse to look at my portfolio…haven’t done so in months. I just take a deep breath and say to myself “20 years to retirement, no need to worry; 20 years to retirement, no need to worry”. Otherwise I’d go loco.

Of course hopefully things are better in December; cuz thats when I look over my portfolio and make any necessary changes.

AnninCA

Told you! Watch for more tomorrow.

Go Palin. We haven’t even seen the peak of her debate performance.

I may have to watch some of the more idiotic pundits tomorrow to see them eat crow. *haha

http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession

I can no longer stomach the idiotic pundits. What they did to Hillary is a real sore spot with me.

AnninCA

It’s just the condition of the press, which is also part of the economy.

The only people who were drawing viewers were the “screamers.”

Even now, the more moderate people I like are often dismissed.

http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession

I no longer trust the polls. Best to focus on what we can do to help Mac defeat bloody Ohemorrhoid. The only polls that matter are the ones we go to on November 4 to vote at.

Andrew

He is past hemorrhoid, he is more like a malignant skin cancer that McCain needs to have surgically removed. Maybe that wasn’t as funny as I though it would be but still, Obama must be destroyed. He could very well drive our country off the cliff and into the spiked rocks below. (Spiked rocks: Russia, China, Terrorists)

cynic

I believe confrontation with Russia is on the McCain/Palin TO DO list, not Obama’s.

Andrew

Russia is getting scary. That are now doing war games with Venezuela. Even China is getting a little frightened by them. Speaking of China, I heard that a large Chinese bank almost collapsed today. That is not good. Chinese banks hold U.S. Treasuries. If they collapse, Treasuries will leak onto the market and the dollar will plummet. Right now, the dollar is doing pretty well because of all the bank failures in Europe. If a Chinese bank collapses, the dollar starts equaling one yen and we start carrying wheelbarrows worth of money to the grocery store.
AnninCA

I think O is more interested in stirring up Pakistan. LOL*

Andrew

Yeah, he said he was going to invade Pakistan and blow up the mountains. Isn’t that the best way to conduct foreign policy? Even Bush waited until after the election. Obama has taken pre-emption to a new level.

AnninCA

Isn’t that the truth?

Talk about not wanting to look like a wimpy Dem. *haha

However, let’s be fair. Remember Hill’s infamous remarks about “obliterating” Iran?

LOL*

Andrew

Still, he said this in the general, not a primary. Hillary’s remarks were out of line but Obama’s remarks were crazed. On one hand he talks about us killing innocent people in Afghanistan, on the other he wants to blow up Pakistan.

AnninCA

My “take,” which is very much just a layman’s take, is that invading Pakistan will put us right in the middle of a huge mess.

I do understand Mac’s perspective. We’re talking about villages.

We invade? We’re killing women and babies, with little return.

It’s highly dangerous.
AnninCA

My “take,” which is very much just a layman’s take, is that invading Pakistan will put us right in the middle of a huge mess.

I do understand Mac’s perspective. We’re talking about villages.

We invade? We’re killing women and babies, with little return.

It’s highly dangerous.

ObamaTrollsareIdiots

Cynic then you obviously don’t know about Zbig who is Obama’s biggest fan along with his under the desk bitch daughter Mika.

AnninCA

I am pragmatic, frankly. I said this with Hill, too.

It’s Mac’s job to win.

I just do my bit as a voter. I was with a bunch of teachers recently, all talking about how Palin would make them teach creationism. LOL* Now, I know teachers, so this is not really a surprising conversation. They rarely read much. They are busy grading papers.

Anyway, they all know I’m a nut on this stuff, so they listen. I just said, “You do know that was a smear that’s been debunked, don’t you?”

Oh, really, they replied?

I just asserted. I like her.

They launched into the inevitable Roe VS Wade.

I just said, “We’re not about to go back to back-alley abortions. But more important, I’d like to see ADULT single women insist on safe sex.”

That stopped the conversation entirely.:)

You see, the truth is about all this baloney? These are women, single, raising daughters, and they do not insist on safe sex, and I was rude enough to nail them on it. (They annoyed me.)

This issue is not going to be solved by voting Democrat. That’s the fantasy. They want to “feel good” by voting for Roe VS Wade.

It’s a fantasy.

DJ

Someone linked to a Reuters story earlier up in this blog with a poll saying BO has a 3 point lead over McCain nationally. In the poll number breakdown, it said McCain leads among Catholics. I remember reading some article during the primaries that said to watch how Catholics vote because that voting bloc has a history of picking the winning presidential candidate. Does anybody know more about whether this bloc is a good indicator?

Andrew

It is relatively correct that the Catholic vote usually follows the winner, though not always. However, the last two elections, I think that Bush carried the Catholic vote even though Kerry did everything to appeal to them. Many Catholics live in Pennsylvania and other blue collar regions and are put off by Obamabotitis. The new thing is to steal election signs from front yards and replace them with Obama signs. Sad. They steal thousands of the signs in some cities.

Brendy

Andrew – I simply don’t understand why ANY Christian (Catholic or Protestant) OR JEW would support Obama…I just can’t see it. IMO he’s a liar (he doesn’t tell the truth or own up to whatever accusations are thrown at him), and he and his vile, hate filled supporters stole the election from Hillary by calling her and Bill racists.

As a strong believer in the Ten Commandments, I just don’t understand how ANYONE could trust Obama and want him in the White House. Do the American people REALLY want a liar or thief (cheater) whose ‘mentors’ and ‘friends’ are anti-American/Whites/Jews? I just don’t get it. Yeah, I know the economy is hurting but I put my beliefs and values in a much higher priority than the economy.

AnninCA

Bit too moralistic for me, anyway. You’re entitled, though, to vote your conscience.

Brendy

AnninCA – So being ‘too moralistic’ is a bad thing in your opinion? How about if I’m too immoral, have NO values – is that better?

Either you’re ‘moral’ or you’re not.

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

I honestly don’t know how anyone could vote for him after Rev. Wright. I am not religious but Rev. Wright freaked me out and that in and of itself would be a no-go.

typical.white.person

Devastating Video, Obama talks about job Ayers gave him

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1147917642795726738

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http://firefox AnnieCarmel

It did my heart good to see O’Reilly yelling at Barney the other day. He deserves it. How is it that MA sends us some of the worst representation?

Andrew

Mass. is full of robovoters. They are the voters that are programmed to go into the voting booth, having left their brain at home, and election after election pick the crummy candidate. The fact that Barney Frank or John Kerry can get re-elected is horrifying. Chuck Schumer needs to be thrown off in Spanish Harlem for what he has done with the housing market. Chris Dodd needs to be placed in a boat and sent into the middle of the ocean for taking Fannie and Freddie money. My senator is McCain so I feel comfortable but some senators are crazed an need help. How is Harry Reid getting re-elected? I mean, don’t people realize he hasn’t done any good? What about Ray Nagin? He let his city drown and still got re-elected. Yes, it is the robovoter phenomenon.

http://firefox AnnieCarmel

You’re right. I shouldn’t talk when we keep sending Pelosi, Feinstein and Boxer back time after time. All multi-millionaires. CA is going down the tubes and asking for $7billion loan to get us through…I guess until tax time. In the meantime we’re spending $11billion each year on services to illegal aliens. I keep wondering where I can relocate to bail on the madness that has become California.

Brendy

AnnieCarmel – I am one of the ones who keeps calling/emaling/faxing my senators and others to CONTROL the illegal immigration population. Thank God for Lou Dobbs and numerous websites informing us of the awful cost (and other things) of illegal immigration.

Do you live in Carmel, CA? I’ve been there and I love the place.
AnninCA

I’m checking out Dallas.

typical.white.person

Obama funded Bill Ayers:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=578960253177694514

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DJ

I was thinking….. with only a month to go until the election, where are all the McCain surrogates on the TV, campaigning in battleground states? They should be saturating the battlegrond states for McCain. When I see Mark Halperin’s thepage.time.com and look to see who’s going to be where, I hardly see anybody stumping for McCain. I mean Romney should be stumping in Michigan/Ohio, Pawlenty in Minnesota, where’s Arnold Schwarzenegger? He stumped for Bush last election in Ohio if I recall correctly. Seems like the campaign is dumping the load on Palin. She’s more than pulling her weight. Where’s the rest of the Republican party? McCain and Palin should do some of their joint campaign appearances in the states they need to win like FL , Ohio, PA, and yes, Michigan (Palin said she wants to try for MI).

Brendy

I was thinking the same thing…where is Romney – he Michigan in the primaries!
Brendy

I was thinking the same thing…where is Romney – he won Michigan in the primaries!
c17wife

Romney is in MI this week. I hope he heads to CO and NV as well. Not sure about the rest of them. My guess is they were waiting to see if JMac was really going to try to win this thing. I suspect we will see some more surrogates starting about mid-month.

DJ

AnnieCarmel — you asked where to relocate from the madness of California….. how about Alaska? I hear they have a pretty good Governor.
THANK GOD FOR FOREIGN PRESS

Resume of a Terrorist: Obama’s Buddy Ayers

By Jim Kouri Sunday, August 31, 2008

While the likes of the New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and other news organizations have their reporters digging for dirt on Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain’s choice for vice president, their savior-in-waiting Barack Obama is getting a free ride at the expense of truth.

It’s no secret that the denizens of America’s newsrooms want Obama sitting in the Oval Office, but Americans are being purposely duped by the Democrat National Committee’s volunteer publicists, formerly known as the mainstream news media.

If it weren’t for talk radio and the blogosphere, even what is known about Obama and his friend, former Weather Underground domestic terrorist and leader William Ayers, would only be a paragraph or two in the backpages of most newspapers, or a sentence or two on most TV and radio news programs.

On Friday night, one of America’s top talk show hosts—who happens to be an attorney and worked in the Reagan Justice Department as chief of staff—recited a list of terrorist acts that would elicit envy from Osama bin Laden. Mark Levin had his listeners glued to their radios or PCs as he read the resume of a man who should be serving life in prison instead of enjoying a tenured professorship at a major university and entertaining a possible US President in his home.

Because of so-called “prosecutorial misconduct” Ayers escaped what could have been a life-sentence.

As I write this “resume of a terrorist,” I find it difficult to understand how a man who is running for president of the United States would even know someone as anti-American and destructive as William Ayers. Plus, Ayers, his wife and their comrades at the Weather Underground are cop-killers. And Obama doesn’t just know him personally—he’s a close friend with Ayers.

Here is the “resume” of an American terrorist:

7 October 1969 – Bombing of Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago, apparently as a “kickoff” for the “Days of Rage” riots in the city October 8-11, 1969. The Weathermen later claimed credit for the bombing in their book, “Prairie Fire.”

8-11 October 1969 – The “Days of Rage” riots occur in Chicago in which 287 Weatherman members from throughout the country were arrested and a large amount of property damage was done.

6 December 1969 – Bombing of several Chicago Police cars parked in a precinct parking lot at 3600 North Halsted Street, Chicago. The WUO stated in their book “Prairie Fire” that they had did the explosion.

27-31 December 1969 – Weathermen hold a “War Council” meeting in Flint, MI, where they finalize their plans to submerge into an underground status from which they plan to commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO).

13 February 1970 – Bombing of several police vehicles of the Berkeley, California, Police Department .

16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.

6 March 1970 – Bombing in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan. 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.

6 March 1970 – “bomb factory” located in New York’s Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members die . The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer’s dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails TO INFILICT MAXIMUM CASUALTIES UPON DETONATION.

30 March 1970 – Chicago Police discover a WUO “bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. A subsequent discovery of a WUO “weapons cache” in a south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city.

10 May 1970 – Bombing of The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C..

21 May 1970 – The WUO under Bernardine Dohrn’s (Ayers’ current wife) name releases its “Declaration of a State of War” communique.

6 June 1970 – The WUO sends a letter claiming credit for bombing of the San Francisco Hall of Justice; however, no explosion actually took place. Months later, workmen in this building located an unexploded device which had apparently been dormant for some time.

9 June 1970 – Bombing of The New York City Police Headquarters.

27 July 1970 – Bombing of The Presidio army base in San Francisco. [NYT, 7/27/70]

12 September 1970 – The WUO helps Dr. Timothy Leary, break out and escape from the California Men’s Colony prison.

8 October 1970 – Bombing of Marin County courthouse. [NYT, 8/10/70]

10 October 1970 – Bombing of Queens traffic-court building . [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]

14 October 1970 – Bombing of The Harvard Center for International Affairs [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30]

1 March 1971 – Bombing of The United States Capitol . “ [NYT, 3/2/71]

April, 1971 – abandoned WUO “bomb factory” discovered in San Francisco, California.

29 August, 1971 – Bombing of the Office of California Prisons . [LAT, 8/29/71]

17 September 1971 – Bombing of The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, NY [NYT, 9/18/71]

15 October 1971 – Bombing of William Bundy’s office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]

19 May 1972 – Bombing of The Pentagon . [NYT, 5/19/72]

18 May 1973 – Bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York

28 September 1973 – Bombing of ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy . [NYT, 9/28/73]

6 March 1974 – Bombing of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare offices in San Francisco

31 May 1974 – Bombing of The Office of the California Attorney General.

17 June 1974 – Bombing of Gulf Oil’s Pittsburgh headquarters .

11 September 1974 – Bombing of Anaconda Corporation (part of the Rockefeller Corporation).

29 January 1975 – Bombing of the State Department in (AP. “State Department Rattled by Blast,” The Daily Times-News, January 29 1975, p.1)

16 June 1975 – Bombing of Banco de Ponce (a Puerto Rican bank) in New York .

September, 1975 – Bombing of the Kennecott Corporation .

October 20, 1981 - Brinks robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, New York. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others were wounded.

1981 “Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country,” Ayers said when interviewed by David Horowitz.

September 11, 2001 “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” Ayers is quoted in a New York Times article.

Message to the News Media: Instead of trying to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin, why don’t you cover indepth stories such as the Obama-Ayers relationship just for starters. If you need more leads for stories regarding Senator Obama and other unsavory characters, contact me at this publication.

Jim Kouri, Vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police. Jim writes for many police and crime magazines including Chief of Police, Police Times, The Narc Officer, Campus Law Enforcement Journal, and others.

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AnninCA

I do agree with your last paragraphs. The “investigation” of Palin has been absurd, given the lack of investigation of Obama.

It’s just sexism.

She’s really a winner.

DJ

Brendy — unless Rommey is peeved he didn’t get the VP slot. Same with Pawlenty. When Palin went to Minnesota, the guy was conveniently not available. He sent his wife, but it’s not the same. I do hope Arnold makes some time to stump with McCain. He made a difference in Ohio for Bush last time, he could do it again for McCain.

AnninCA

Well, unfortunately, Hill has set a new standard in partisanship. It’s unfortunate. She so had to convince people she was for O that she has drawn attention to those “rejected” who never do and never were expected before.

But Hillary is definitely special and held to a far different standard.
Brendy

DJ – I agree with you; afterall, Romney and McCain were at each other’s throat during the primaries – esp. McCain; imo, I thought he was rather unfair to Romney.
Brendy

DJ – I agree with you; afterall, Romney and McCain were at each other’s throat during the primaries – esp. McCain; imo, I thought he was rather unfair to Romney. Payback?

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Interesting story:

Does it matter if Barack Obama is for sex education in kindergarten? It matters more than most things that are called “the real issues.”

Seemingly unrelated things can give important insights into someone’s outlook and character. For example, after the Cold War was over, it came out that one of the things that caught the attention of Soviet leaders early on was President Ronald Reagan’s breaking of the air traffic controllers’ strike.

Why were the Soviets concerned about a purely domestic American issue like an air traffic controllers’ strike? Why was their attention not confined to “the real issues” between the United States and the Soviet Union?

Because one of the biggest and realest of all issues is the outlook and character of the President of the United States.

It would be hard to imagine any of Ronald Reagan’s predecessors over the previous several decades– whether Republicans or Democrats– who would have broken a nationwide strike instead of caving in to the union’s demands.

This told the Soviet leaders what Reagan was made of, even before he got up and walked out of the room during negotiations with Mikhail Gorbachev. That too let the Soviet leaders know that they were not dealing with Jimmy Carter any more.

Read the rest:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_real_obama_part_ii.html

Perry Logan

Since union-busting is a favorite activity of repressive regimes everywhere, the Soviets probably fell in love with Ronnie.

Since the matter of character has been broached, it’s worth pointing out that Reagan went on to lead easily the most corrupt administration in American history. Go, Repubs!

The Reagan Administration was so corrupt, they would sometimes rack up more convictions and forced resignations IN A SINGLE DAY than the Clinton administration managed in its entire eight years.

The Reagan gang were:
the first administration in American history to have a sitting cabinet member indicted.
the first administration in American history to have an Assistant Secretary of State indicted.
the first administration in American history to have an Assistant Secretary of Defense sent to prison.
the first administration in American history to have over 100 members of an administration charged with crimes.
the first administration in American history to have more members of his administration charged with crimes than the cumulative total of all other presidents in the twentieth century.

bethtopaz

*************** Comment found on 10-7-8 after an article by Thomas Sowell on Real Clear Politics:
http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/218801.html

Posted by: JK
Oct 06, 10:56 PM Report Abuse
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The real Sarah Palin

On a cold fall evening in 1998 a pick up pulled into my driveway. I peered out the window and two people stepped out. I thought to myself , self what are these folks trying to sell this late at night? As they walked up the porch I opened the door. Before I could decline the goods for sale a lady said “hi I’m Sarah and this is my husband Todd and I am running for Mayor of Wasilla.” At first I was surprised that someone running for Mayor would stop at a house as small as mine. Surely there are not a lot of votes here. I then introduced myself and my wife Lena. We briefly talked about being new to the area due to a facility closing in another city and my career change. She talked about job creation in the valley. Our talk was short but insightful. What also sticks out here is Sarah was the incumbent Mayor running for reelection and was so popular that she probably would have won with out going door to door yet still did.
My wife and I would see the Palin’s around town from time to time. Sarah at the supermarket and Todd at the local barber. I remember entering the barber shop as Todd was leaving and giving him the customary head nod. As he left an old timer said “ wasn’t that the Governors husband?” The barber said “sure was”. The old timer went on “ I’m surprised he doesn’t git one of them expensive haircuts at a ritzy place”. I laughed.
The next time my family would talk with the Palin’s was in the spring of 2008. In that time my wife and I had two gorgeous boys. Jaden who is quick to smile with big blue eyes is 6 and Joren who’s tongue is older than he just turned 5. Jaden was born as healthy as can be but a little early. At around 15 months he started to regress. Lena noticed it at first and I ignored it as long as I cog as I could. She was right. He could say car and truck, but that went away. He could turn a light switch on and off when we stood next to it, but he stopped doing that too. We made an appointment with a doctor and Jaden was diagnosed with a severe seizure disorder. I do not cry much but I did that day. I will probably tear up writing this. The last 5 years have gone by very quickly with several bridges crossed and many more ahead. We tried several different medications with no luck. We tried a low carbohydrate diet with no luck. We decided that a VNS ventricle nerve stimulator may help. The VNS was implanted in Jaden’s chest and so far it has been helping. When Lena talked with the Palin’s this spring it was before Trig was born. They saw picture’s of our son’s and would inquire about both . My wife told them Jaden’s story. They were very affected by it. They asked my wife questions and she could see concern in there eyes. It was later released that Trig would have his own special needs. Lena remembers that they had the same look we did when Jaden was first diagnosed. Lena talks to Sarah and Todd every so often and they continue to ask how the boys are and Lena asks the same of Trig.
I write this as a life long registered Democrat a 15 year union member and someone who gave money to Hillary in the Democratic primary. I followed the process for over a year and watched in dismay the MSM’s (MSNBC)(CNN) lack of fair and equal reporting on all candidates. The DNC stood by and did nothing while certain pundits were blatantly sexist and biased. The DNC did not follow their own rules when deciding on how to proceed with Florida and Michigan. I could go on and on. We here in Alaska are all fairly friendly, but when something just isn’t right we pounce. The trashing of our Governor is reprehensible. Finding it news worthy to report on a politicians teenage kids is despicable. The TODAY show (NBC) and The Situation Room (CNN) should be ashamed. The virulent and biased reporting should not be tolerated by anyone during this election as it was in the Primary.
Mostly I tell you this because no one really knows what is in the heart and mind of a politician. Sarah understands small town America’s struggles and as Governor she understands a states struggles in America, but mostly she understands the struggles of a special needs child in America. While I don’t agree with Sarah on some issues sometimes a life long D needs to vote for an R. Even as the Governor of Alaska Sarah and Todd stayed grounded and kept their small town values.
Win or lose Sarah and Todd will see Lena and I again and they will ask how Jaden and Joren are doing and we will ask the same of Trig. Our son Jaden continues to progress he now turns the lights on and off by himself and with the help of his little brother Joren will try and use some words once in awhile. I worry sometimes if I should let Joren help with those words . Jaden still has many more milestones to reach, but with the help of friends and family we will be alright in the end. Yup, I knew I would.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Finding it news worthy to report on a politicians teenage kids is despicable. The TODAY show (NBC) and The Situation Room (CNN) should be ashamed. The virulent and biased reporting should not be tolerated by anyone during this election as it was in the Primary.

We are a strange breed here in the lower 48.
AnninCA

Obama is very much jello on the wall. His backers made sure of that. No time wasted on defending a record. He has none.

There is no other approach but character attacks. That usually is bad, but because he has no record, that’s also got a flip side.

Voters must consider his actual character.

So Mac is right to hit him on this and hard.

I do not think he’s radical, personally. I think he got his foothold, his skills there, but I don’t think he’s actually radical.

BUT….I think that remaining in the Wright church?

That indicates poor judgment for a long time. That’s relevant to me.

Ayers? Not really.

Rezko. Definitely. He tells me that he skirts the edge.

http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

I don’t understand how Ayers could not be a concern. Did you not read that resume of terror of the Weathermen posted above?

AnninCA

Hill….I think Ayers is just a failed Democratic activist. He’s blown millions of dollars on the Chicago educational system, and nothing he’s suggested has done a single thing he set out to accomplish. It’s money down the rat hole.

We’ve all outgrown 60′s ideology of turning teachers into social change agents.

It’s time to move foreward.

So no, I don’t see him as dangerous. I see him as a waste of time.

Mr. Natural

Rezko. Definitely. He tells me that he skirts the edge.

An ancient Chicago proverb:

A journey of a thousand corruptions begins with one favor.

AnninCA

Very sweet……..

Sarah is now in a different pool.

She’s doing great.

DJ

bethtopaz – thanks for posting that article. I can only hope the rest of the US will be so privileged to have Sarah Palin as VP after Nov 4.

bethtopaz

Me, too, DJ…me, too.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

October 07, 2008
The Real Obama: Part IV
By Thomas Sowell

Barack Obama’s supporters often try to sidestep questions about his character and judgment by saying that we should stick to what they arbitrarily define as “the real issues.” But Senator Obama’s record on specific issues is as bad as his record of repeatedly allying himself over the years with people who make no attempt to hide their hatred of America.

Among the so-called “real issues” are earmarks for Senators’ pet projects, like the “bridge to nowhere.” These are among the most indefensible parts of the inbred Washington political culture, which Obama has so often claimed to be against, as part of his promise of “change” to “clean up the mess in Washington.”

Yet Senator Obama not only voted in favor of the bridge to nowhere, he voted against anti-earmark amendments proposed by Senator John McCain.

Obama has had more than two dozen of his own earmarks in the past fiscal year, and he knows the Senate well enough to know that, if he voted against the bridge to nowhere, his own earmarks might get nowhere.

Those earmarks, incidentally, included a million dollars of the taxpayers’ money for a facility where his wife works at the University of Chicago. Her salary rose by nearly $200,000 when her husband became a United States Senator– no doubt a shrewd investment by the university that paid off.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_real_obama_part_iv.html

Touchet

You have to call them out on this. Where was this talking about issues, when they talk about the investegation.

they are distracting when they do this. McCain shouldn’t let Obama run his campaign.

McCain should have never voted for that bill. Never went to the debate, and he shouldn’t stop talking about Obama’s lies.

GO SHELLEY

Shelley Mandell is a true hero for endorsing Palin. I have kind of had it with the HORRIBLE women in this election who have been unkind to Palin. I ask myself WHY, when this woman has done NOTHING but good in this country. NOTHING but good and she is an example to me of having it all – great family, great career, great husband, etc. WTF is there to say bad about her? I saw her at the rally in CA and I saw the true respect and admiration from Mandell. Go Shelley. This election has poisoned my feelings about my OWN and how cruel they can be to each other for NO REASON. You might not like where Palin stands on EVERY ISSUE, but that doesn’t give these horrible women any business attacking her and I am disgusted. Totally appalled that in 2008 this is how women treat each other. No wonder that glass ceiling is still there. It’s our own fault for not supporting each other. Shame on these self hating women who call themselves “feminists.” They are an embarrassment to this country.
Lynn

It’s about darn time! I’m so glad finally someone from NOW is supporting Gov. Palin!
jrterrier

“Is it too much to hope that one of the moderators of the two remaining debates will press Obama for a fuller accounting of his work with Bill Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and also ask Obama what he thinks of Ayers’s views on school reform? If the mainstream media deem it important that voters know which newspapers one of the vice presidential candidates reads, they certainly ought to be demanding more information from a presidential candidate about whom he collaborated with in distributing $160 million to the public schools. How about it, Tom Brokaw?”

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1006ss.html
DancingOpossum

John McCain needs to unveil a new, thoughtful, serious economic plan at the debate if he wants to have a hope in hell of winning this thing, at this point. Obama’s vague non-plan will be made to look as empty as it is but ONLY IF McC offers a better one. Otherwise it will look as though only Obama is able to handle the economy–which is precisely the reason he is polling so well. McCain and his advisers had better have spent the last few days crafting this, and it would be extra-double-sweet if it were modeled after Hillary’s proposal for a new HOLC.

BTW, Hillary’s HOLC proposal has been widely praised by economists of all stripes as the only sensible, well-thought-out solution to the financial crisis.

Thanks again, DNC.
DancingOpossum

p.s. in my wildest dreams, McCain actually offers up the HRC proposal with credit to her, or maybe even taps her to run it. OK, I’m waking up now!!
Pyromancer76

Thank Goodness we have some Americans dedicated to democracy and freedom rather than lie and scrub. A great post and video. About other Republicans on the campaign trail for John and Sarah, association with those who vigorously supported the present administration might not win McCain many points. I think he needs to be seen as a centrist as well as a maverick toward Bushies, and those Repubs you mention are not exactly reformers of the status quo. Perhaps there is a reason why they leave our two heroes to the limelight. After all, Palin is packin’ them in.
http://nobloodforhubris.blogspot.com No Blood for Hubris

No, sorry, I’m not okay with Palin’s vicious race-baiting and McCain’s condoning rally attendees to fling crazed insults at his opponent.

Why would anyone be ok with that?

No Hubris for Bloods

No Hubris for Crips, either.

Seattle Moss

This is not a class war…Unless you want one!

There are all types of rich. There are those like Buffet and Gates who will be donating close to $100 billion to charity.

Then there are the Hollywood types who buy Bentleys and Rolex’s flaunt their wealth and give nothing to charity but want everyone else to live under Obama’s socialism.
beebop

Maybe if American automakers were producing vehicles that Americans wanted to drive? My pre Ford owned Volvo is 12 years old an still running like a champ. Please find me a 12 year old US car that gets great mileage and has 175,000+ miles on it with original engine parts ….

And you might have noticed that Honda and Toyota manufacture their vehicles right here in the US. Are those workers less entitled to jobs?

You know, the economony is a lot more complicated than 0mama would have you believe.
Mr. Natural

And you might have noticed that Honda and Toyota manufacture their vehicles right here in the US. Are those workers less entitled to jobs?

Those cars are kitted and shipped into U.S. assembly plants for the last six hours of labor only. The costs are skewed so that Toyota’s U.S. operations pay a minimum of U.S. taxes. Toyota’s overseas sweatshops run according to rules that no American manufacturer dares descend to, literally working so many to death from overwork that the Japanese coined a word to describe death by overwork. Meanwhile, Toyota’s recalls reach record levels; a secret Toyota management memo is leaked and reveals their plans to slash North American assembly plant wages in half, and people like you continue to crow about how superior it makes you to buy un-American.
Mr. Natural

Don’t believe me?

“The Toyota You Don’t Know: The Race to the Bottom in the Auto Industry”

http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=562