Debate Open Thread

Yeah!!!!!!! ty Susan!

Great work Matthew and Susan…you guys are great! Thanks for this debate thread too.

thanks for giving us a sane place to call home.

omg he just goes ON and ON and ON

and says NOTHING

except when he’s agreeing with John McCain

I hate these things

McCain is engaging the crowd, Obama sounds like a politician

Well, geeesh. I had the time zone wrong. Set this up two hours ago. Thank goodness Larry called me!

Amen, wodiej.

Just remember and don’t be dismayed – tomorrow the msm will be full of how Obama won complete with ginned up polls.

Obama, Tom Brokaw asked who you would want as Treasurer, not to wax poetic or philosophical about whatever shit comes to mind. I like that Brokaw gently chastisted them and told both candidates to please stick to the (narrow) topic at hand.

very boring

I noticed that Obama immediately blamed McCain, et. al, as if he hadn’t gotten a gazillion dollars from Freddie and Fannie. McCain just let it go – UNTIL NOW. Nicely done.

lol Dawnelle!

Thank you for the thread. I couldn’t watch this without it.

Obama has answered a question yet, he’s giving a campaign spiel. He looks uncomfortable. I hit the remote when he speaks because I’ve heard it before.

Absolutely.

Yea, ACORN and the corrupt Obama.

Hmmm…McCain named several people he would consider appting to economic positions, but I only heard BO name one. Did I miss him name more than one?

look at barry smirking………….I can’t stand that guy.

McCain hitting Barry hard on the contributions.

McCain just called him on it! it makes my heart smile..

oh, here we go, yes McCain telling crowd Dem’s wouldn’t pass legislation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, he stood up for it…oooh, OMG..he didn’t…he just said Obama was a big recipient of the money. YES!!

Oliver let me change the topic. I don’t want to talk about all the money I took from Fannie and Freddie

holy crap, he just nailed Obama on his contributions from Fannie and Freddie.

Obama never answers the question.

I won’t watch it but I will gladly sit here and read what the good people/commenters @ NQ have to say.

I cannot stomach even LOOKING at Obama. He’s so George Bushie!

ok, it is getting a little nasty

O said something? Documentation please???

“Not surprisingly”

Obama is arrogant. I hope someone notes this.

No, he did not. And his mention of Warren Buffet was only a follow-up to MCCAIN mentioning him.

obambi standing there tooting his own horn and lying again.

If there are any trolls, send me a copy of their full comment + username. susanunpc at gmail dot com

Obama is starting out rude with his let me correct… not surprisingly.

Rather snobish and talking down…

Yeah, I cannot, simply cannot, watch that MF’ing fraud. Thanks for the updates.

There he goes…..copying what McCain said about people staying in their homes.

why is JM breathing so hard?

Bo snotface just said “i have to correct JM’s history, as usual”

I don’t like this format for jm

For those interested, NewHampster is hosting a live debate CHAT now at his place:

http://www.partizane.com/tribune

Don’t forget to log in first! Drop by for a second or two.

Boom! Mac hits on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Barry wants to hit back, claims he wrote to Paulson and Bernanke when?

Says questioner is not interested in hearing politicians pointing fingers, but that’s exactly what he just did. And yet, Barry but didn’t say anything about what he would do to help the homeowner! biggest gasbag

Barky just said we’re not interested in pointing fingers…I sure am! We need to know who’s responsible for trashing the economy so we can vote them out.

Nope.

McCain is on his game tonight. He answered the first question in precisely the way the CNN analysts said he’d need to…. I’m feeling better now.

Hi everyone, i dont post often but read as many comments as i can, lol

Mccain comes out strong on Obama’s connection with Freddie & Fannie. Hope he brings out Ayers too.

I noted it Truthteller.

Ditto

Agree completely!

awwww comeon, tillthen, watch.

He is stomach churning. McCain doing well. Barry thrown a little off there.

Obambi is smirking already.

Lady you can’t trust Barky.

I was reading about the ACORN thing today in NV. How I wish McCain would tie that into Obama. I feel it bears some attention.

Question for obama: Do you think bill ayers did enough?

I’m not watching – do you think the moderator is being fair?

Obama suffers from Adult Short Attention Span. He jumps on one word and sails downriver into tributary’s, no where near the riverbank where the question was. John on the otherhand REMEMBERS the question and answers. That’s all we ask.

Is Obooboo having more time to talk or it is just me getting bored listening him going around beating the bushes…????

McCain: “Lets look at our record not just our rhetoric”
Stressing his bipartisan record

yes, so far anyway.

Brokaw is from NBC. Suspicious.

my heart is pounding and I think John McCain’s is to

So far yes.

Audience member to another audience member, “What did Obama just say”?

Other audience member: “Um, er, ah, er, um ah.”

Audience member: Oh, I thought he said “ah, um, er, um, ah, er”.

I cannot believe Obama called that poor woman Joyce cynical. He is disgusting.

I believe you can tell McCain is more at ease with this format, and talking directly to people in the stands than Obama.

Hi NQ folks – New Hampster’s party just crashed. The debate chat got overloaded maybe.

The candidates are doing OK so far. Except bam.

it feels like he’s getting more time.

He did. Right out of the gate. Bambi changed the subject when it was his turn…par for the course.

The Confluence also has a debate live blog which is getting lots of responses and opinions so stop by.

LOL

post this everywhere:

“In the most obscene chapter in recent American history is the conduct of the Kosovo conflict when the president of the United States refused to prepare for ground operations, refused to have air power used effectively because he wanted them flying — he had them flying at 15,000 feet where they killed innocent civilians because they were dropping bombs from such — in high altitude.”

-Barack Obama

I think he is getting more time.

ha ha hadenough, good one!

Um, is it just me or is McCain fumbling a little?
ARGHHHHHHHHHh

He seems nervous dammit.

“My friends” – love the way Mac says that!

McCain’s engaged – talking to and not talking at – he doesn’t wanna sit down – he’s involved and not aloof.

omg! i cannot believe how smug osama looks tonight. way too smug. what up? i agree with tillthen he is one mf’er.

wtf? Did I just hear Barry said John would spend more and HE (Barky) would cut spending? Is he living in an alternate universe? When did he become a fiscal conservative?

RedState is doing like a java style chat similar to the one used at Talk Left. I cannot take TL anymore. This place is moving slow, but I think that’s a good thing…traffic and all for PUMAs.

He is such a liar and a f**king copycat.

McCain hates all this economic stuff–start talking about the war already!

I missed that, Joyce who?

It’s all the same crap! I am tired of hearing this shit! They say what ever they want to get the vote. Although we know that Obama has a secret agenda

rest of you watching – is McCain nervous?

today.

Tomorrow it will change dont worry.

I don’t get something about John McCain, he has been doing this HOW LONG, yet Sarah has been doing this for what, 5 weeks and she looked better and kicked major ass. Man can we just have Hillary as President and Sarah as Vice President and call it a night

I think you’re right

I just want to reach through the TV and choke him everytime he bridges a thought with AAAAAAAAANND.

Gawd his boring.

McCain’s demeanor is humble. Barky is arrogant, as usual.

destardi,

he sounds weak. he’s breathing hard. he’s stumbling . .

where’s the JM of yesterday’s rally?

no

I don’t know if he is nervous or holding that microphone too close and you can hear his breathing.

It’s you. He’s fine. Fercrissake, he was a fighter pilot. This guy is not gonna get to him.

yes….and so am I!

McCain does look a little nervous..but he will be OK in a minute or two.
Obama is sitting like he is posing for GQ

COME ON JOHN. GROW A PAIR AND GET THIS A-HOLE

The NO Quarter Talk Raido widget is hanging terrible. Please turn it off. I beg you.

he sounded good there.

Good response from McCain on Obama prioritizing top three vs. taking them on all at once.

BO has the attitude that he’s already president.

I think JM is holding the mike too close.

This is friggin BORING!!!!!!

Hillary for President, Sarah for VP, lets call it a night

Hold the hell up this prick didnt just invoke 9/11 after pallin around with ayers for so many years did he?

Obama always makes me feel depressed. He really thinks America sucks.

I can’t stand how he whistles his “S’s”.

Please do be smirky, snarky and over confident Barry. Look at those poll numbers! No need to try too hard. Big mistake.

Oh! Those numbers not real? Well, whaddaya know.

OMG Obama channels Rudy Guilliani

Thanks for stopping by.

ab3, you are entitled to your opinions, but I respectfully disagree.

I OWN MY VOTE!

Yes.. that prick did.

I know where I was on 9/11. And I also know your mentor, fundraiser and friend Bill Ayers claimed he wanted to drop more bombs on 911, Obama. Where were you on 911, Obama? And were you in the God Damn AmeriKKKa church the weekend that followed? Where were you, obama? were you enjoying dinner with Ayers and Khalidi?

if this is a town hall then how come some are reading off of note cards? i never seen that in mccains town halls.

fuck you

I think the problem w McCain is not that he doesn’t have good ideas or plans he is just not what some would call charasmatic. Unfortunately alot of people base someone’s worth on that and nothing more, say like, oh, Barack Obama. Let’s remember that John is making some good points…just got another zinger in about Obama wanting some fancy overhead projecter and how he is going to trim costs.

This is not a rally, this is a town hall style debate and there are kids in the audience. He is not at liberty to be as free w his words in this type of setting.

Volunteer Corps? Oh, no – here comes the Hitler Youth!

I see it differently. I too am from immigrants from Germany and I remember well what my grandparents told me about how Hitler took over. You can hit on McCain’s age all day long if you like, but it’s his wisdom that Obama can’t even compare with. So I say, for the love of your country, your freedoms, your economy, vote for McCain/Palin so that your kids and grandkids will live with freedom. Obama as a socialist is a scary thought.

OMG This idiot is talking about that civilian force crap!

And after listening to his supporters whine about McCain talking about 9/11… Smarmy little freako

I think McCain is doing fine. It won’t matter that he’s more substantive than Obama — the MSM will deem The One the winner anyway.

Obama is such a copycat — so often he repeats the good ideas of his debate partners. And talks as if his record of spending doesn’t exist.

Oh now Obama is talking about doubling the Peace Corps! In response to a question about what would he cut from the budget!!!

that’s enough out of you.

The question is, “what sacrifices would you as president ask Americans to make?” So what is Obama talking about? Not anything in particular. The energy crisis. What Bush said after 9-11. Blah blah blah. Then he brings up his volunteer corps across the nation garbage, so that “military family don’t bear the burden of rebuidling America.” WTF does that mean?

ab3- you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. i bet you are the daughter of illegal immigrants. get the hell off this blog idiot!

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Barry is full of crap.

I hate to say BO is slicker and more American Idolish, something Americans like.

JM has never been a polished speaker unfortunately. But I will still vote for him because he speaks substance!

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

Windbag!

F…k off!

the only one who is not paying attention is you jibber jabbering when you should be watching.

ageist.

I won’t vote for a commie!

Quick John, tag in Sarah, she would kick Obama’s lying ass

Jesus Christ he is such a socialist

jello to the wall

Thank you, Texaslatina

Obama is JELLO!!!!!

John needs to make the statement I heard today, ” When is the last time you heard of someone getting a job and being hired by a poor person?”

mcCain is best now with taxes—-

And you think Obama is the acceptable choice for America? You have got to be breathing something very toxic if that’s your choice. If Obama gets in I wish all of you who looked through the looking glass at this dangerous fraud, good luck, because you will need it with what he will bring to this country. I will be able to say I never wanted him or voted for him and will oppose him every chance I get until he is gone. I just hope Americans see through him before Nov.4 so we don’t have to face this nightmare.

Did you see how Obama mouth dropped open when McCain said “The secret Obama wont tell you”

Barky: WHAIT I WANT TO RESPOND!!!

Brokaw: SHUTUP!

I was talking to ab3′s post!

No, you may not respond, Obama.

And yes, Obama, you must follow the rules.

LOL I’d rather have that OLD MAN then some punk ass FRAUD like NoBAMA! AND I’ve NEVER voted Republican in my life!

Barry is getting pissed. spoiled brat

Goooood! Obimbo was cut-off!!! Wanted to respond to McCain, but he was told off, LOL

Brokaw just cut off Obama. LOL He wanted to respond to mccain. Brokaw said no.

talk left is worthless now. jeralyn drank the koolaid.

Ah!

brokaw to obama: F*ck Off

Brokaw just now did not let BHO respond—okay! Yes! Put him in his place—-both parties agreed to rules. BHO wants to break the rules again, and again, and again.

LMAO, he told obi to sit down and wait!!
LOVIN it!

Brokaw just gave Oblockhead the short shrift. Brokaw so far is doing ok.

The audience doesn’t like Oblockhead judging from their demeanor.

If Obama can’t stand up to Brokaw how can he stand up to Putin or …

so…. who’s winning?

Good for Tom! Made Obama stick to the rules, and answer the question from the Internet, and his own Q. on entitlements.

Obama being cute, “The street talk express lost a wheel on that one.” -gag me with a spoon.

John is an old man who is past his prime, weak, and who has sacrificed his beliefs in a last-ditch effort to reach this goal.

Shut up and go sit down somewhere, brat.

HAHA did Brokaw just tell Obama to shut his trap LOL LOL

oh wait i want to respon! i remember this one! ive been practicing!!

Obama is cooking the books again. Hold on….

Did Brokaw really say that? I know you only speak the truth tt, jus’ askin’.

He never explains how he will pay for anything.

a few percent of small businesses

THAT’S NOT TRUE

Robot ab3 just had a short and is going willy nilly to the wrong sites. Lost in space. Wobbling around and bumping into things.

I’d tell you to get lost but you already are.

I loved that…lol.

Obama talks and talks and says nothing that makes any sense!

Obama is just repeating what he said in the first debate. He is B-O-R-I-N-G.

SAME HERE!!!

Ignore Them

alice, we know you a frigging troll. hit the road.

McCain is engaging…sounds like he knows what he’s talking about.

yes, he was not a happy camper. kept hanging open too. yuk!

I guess when Obama gets his ass kicked, all of the rules that the two campaigns agreed to just get suspeneded so that Obama can make a rhetorical point.

Of course, when you sponsor and support an organization like Accorn that engages in naked vote fraud, what’s not answering Brokaw’s question in comparison.

McCain just said, I will answer the question. (With a big smile) LOL

hows the debate going?

Both of them are simply repeating the same talk points from the last debate.

Pampers needs a change.

And I’ll bet bill ayers is chocking on his popcorn watching the wheels come off Chicago politics latest creation.

Can you believe that nobama actually said that civilians, especially the youth, would need to be involved in the military?!!! Did I hear that right…???

What is he proposing…the Obama Youth Para-Military Force??

I think these questions stink.

McCain has backed environmental protection reform…Obama? = NOTHING

Postmaster, I just took 5mg Valium. Feeling better but still can’t watch.

Obama’s face looks like he is pissed off. LOL McCain is doing much better. Obama just spewing his same ole rhetoric.

McCain’s performance is much improved compared to his last one. He’s laughing at Obama’s jokes, making eye contact, and doesn’t seem angry. I just wish he could have managed that in the last debate.

I love the “I’ll actually answer the question” quip. If only his running mate would answer them, we might be closer in the polls.

mccain is good in this venue

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND,
ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND,
the new Uh.

They are both boring

what’s with the computer analogy? Huh?

Obama when he sits has this little smirk on his face. He’s arrogant and disgusting.

I’m also curious how his 800 billion dollars of new spending is now going to result in a “spending cut,” which he said early in the debate . . .

Obama has changed his position so many time, he’s like a moving target for McCain to attack him on his policy.

I enjoy how McCain discusses his accomplishments and his bills. Obama just “calls for” a particular program.

Obama confused the invention of the computer with the Internet…Defense communication

Obama once again is stealing from Hillary..i.e. the 5 million green jobs

Barry is snarky tonight

Yeah, Barky, let’s talk about your record. Please.

Time’s up, sit down.

The good news is that PUMAs will exist as a community and shadow Dem Party beyond the GE.

i wish Palin was debating.

McCain just slapped him – that one voted for it!

The last debate I saw with mccain he did fine. Never once did I see ‘anrgy’ from mccain. And I really didn’t care if where mccain looked bothered the members of the “liberal media.” But’s just me.

Barky, oh Barky, please step on your dick!

“That one” voted for the bush-cheney energy bill – ha ha!

I can’t stand the smug smile on Obama’s face everytime McCain speaks. It is very condescending. Reminds me of Bush’s s**t eatin grin.

that was good

Obama converts so easily — how long has he been in favor of nuclear energy? He said in the first debate that he was concerned about the safety of nuclear waste storage — like who isn’t???

Can we have Hillary back now, please?

PUMA!!

That was exactly what I said. He has no original thoughts whatsoever that I can discern.

You know who voted for the big Oil bill with all the goodies. That one. (Points to Obama) (John McCain) ROFL

well, ok tillthen, you get a pass on this one!

The good news is that we PUMAs will exist as a community and as a shadow Dem Party beyond the GE.

Speaking of medical records…..

GOOD that McCain worked in that Obama voted for the Cheney Energy Bill

i can hear hillary but i dont see her….weird

You got that right. Dog them to the end of time. Every last one of the rotten,
stinkin’ bastards

BHO is lying about his proposed health care—he’s using Hillary’s plan. What BS does BO spew—he can’t help lying.

He seems less nervous than the last debate. I think he looks relaxed, in fact.

The woman in the audience who claimed both parties are responsible for the economic crisis. According to Obama, she is cynical.

“moral commitment”

My god, he’s sounding more like Hillary clinton everyday. I wonder if the Obama campaign pays clinton royalties.

And as a federal employee, I can tell you. Our policies are HEAVILY subsidized. My actually policy is like $400 and I only pay $60.

OUCH McCAin is killing BO!! lol

Obama has no accomplishments he can brag about. Of course, that has never stopped him from inventing them (like his banking committee).

Obama stole everything he knows from Hillary. Louse in the house.

Obama just ripped off part of HRC’s spiel on health care! What a jerk.

Imagine, we could have had an HRC!

OMG OB keeps go’n on and on and on to hell with the time rules don’t matter to me I make the frig’n rulls what a Pie.of suhd! where’s my zantac!!

Obi is an idiot. The French do it every day (store nuclear waste).

Should health care be a commodity? Obama is doing the funky chicken on this one and McCain is on about government intervention. I could just die.

He seems to be keeping barky in his place though. Has reminded him several times of the blinking lights and going over time.

lmao

Mac is killing him on what? Do tell..

I’m bored. Let’s talk about socialism and crooks.

look at the record not obamas smirky ass face

That is so funny. He hasn’t got the foggiest notion about nuclear energy problems.

We could have except more than half our party didn’t bother to pay attention
to what the One was really saying.

Hair transplants?!?!? Smack at Biden. Love it.

But I hate how BO wants to do something in his 1st term implying he’ll certainly have a second. What a snot.

ROFL

Obama can only propose..and propose without putting anything in context…

Can ANYONE ask Obama how all of what he is proposing will be paid off in this spiraling economy????!!!

Fixing the economy..housing/credit/job creation is primary…otherwise nothing else can happen

If Obama becomes president we will have no money left, so he says that only successful small businesses will have to play taxes, Have any of you heard of a not successful small business LOL And yeah he tried desperately to rip off Hillary’s health care plan, a really pathetic effort though, I am not the biggest fan of McCain, voting for him more because of Sarah, but damn God help us all if Obama wins, we think the economy is bad now, LOL I think the only change your gonna have with obama is the change your gonna have in your pocket when he is done screwing up this country

Any good idea Obama could possibility have, he stole from Hillary. Only problem, he won’t do anything about it if he is elected.

Yes, and let us discuss Ayers.

And now Obama is discussing his typical white mother.

Was Mac going after Joe’s hair plugs? Does the U.S. Senate’s insurance cover that? Gold-plated, indeed.

You’re right – he is regurgitating all of Hillary’s ideas. Anybody seen Hillary lately? Maybe the “Body Snatchers” wasn’t fiction.

I bet Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy feel like kicking their own butts now, kick Donna’s while their at it.

Thanks. Sounds as though he’s not going to pin himself down to any names that might blow up in the future and he definitely isn’t going to name a Republican or a woman, huh?

bo is sooooo boring. mccain keeps my attention. no matter how hard i try i cannot listen to obama’s talks in their entirety. bo acts like is 13 he has to be right and get the last word. tom is trying to take control and bo is being rude and lying.

Obama keeps lying about McCain, McCain has to stop him.

Everyone in America who pays for their own health insurance KNOWS it costs alot more than $5000.00

He just sandbagged Biden’s state over credit cards…lol

Stuttered slightly when he realized it and then kept going.

mcCain is funny–so what is the fine?

Apparently, Obama’s mom died of cancer because she spent the last months of her life arguing over pre-existing conditions with beaucrats and couldn’t get the necessary treatment. And when was that, Obama?Obama was not even present in her life that entire year, how the hell would he know who she was arguing with and if she was, why didn’t he do a damn thing about it. Was she even in the U.S.???? Give me a break.

never saw that

BHO has always supported nuclear energy—he’s gotten lots of campaign contributions from Excelon—Illinois has more nuclear power plants than any other state. I don’t like it and France is having trouble with the “reprocessing” of nuclear waste now. BHO watered down legislation when he was an IL senator about notification when there has been a nuclear waste leak—because of the contributions from Excelon. I think Axelrod is associated with them.

about 10 minutes

Too bad Obama voted against placing a cap on interest rates. I guess obama has deep ties to Delaware.

Heavens what an idiot. Did he diss Joe Biden’s state of Delaware for having lax banking rules on credit cards? Ha.

Also he keeps mentioning his Mom’s death. Isn’t it true that Obama didn’t visit her when she was dying. Sheesh.

Mine doesn’t.

you don’t understand crap Barky

Yeah, it reminds me of Palin.

NObama will have NO first term if we have anything to say about it. He is full of himself – just a big bag of HOT AIR. He has nothing to offer this country except a bunch of HOT AIR…and a bunch of CRIMINAL FRIENDS. Neither one of which we NEED.

We don’t have time for on the job training, NObama!!

this is not a town hall

1 town halls dont have mderators
2 town halls dont have planned questions
3 town halls dont have hand picked audience

Did you listen to the whole explanation? That is only one part of a very good plan that doesn’t have the government’s fingers in every part of the healthcare plan with mandates fines etc. Pay attention.

Vladimr Lenin would be proud of that sonofabitch.
Everything he says is “We will force our citizens to be responsible.” “We will fine people” “We will demand that you pay”
Now Obama is going to pop about the Stan…
John McCain, now…
NATO chair…NOW

i wish Palin was debating

I fell out laughing. Go Mccain. Did we hear call Obama out about not explaining the fines? Ha!! Ha!! Mccain surprise me tonight. Mccain just let Obama know the fight is on. He is not scare…….

PUMA…….

They are both doing thier own stump speeches..and Barry hasn’t answered a question yet!

Sorry. This was supposed to be in response to soldier4hillary & Rev Amy way up thread. Browser times out on me, but it posted outside of the “reply to this comment” box.

It is, however, what the people want to know. We forget we’re ahead of the curve.

I’d like to ask him how much him Civilian Defense Corp will cost…as much as the military budget he said…how much?

we did save lives over in Iraq. Saddam was exterminating his people like Hitler and hoarding that money.

Obama wants to take away our funding. I am so gd pissed.

hmmm

he can thank Jo Jo for the inflexible bankruptcy laws that punish those with outrageous medical bills.

Vladimr Lenin would be proud of that sonofabitch.
Everything he says is “We will force our citizens to be responsible.” “We will fine people” “We will demand that you pay”

Obama doesn’t have an original thought in his head, and he has no intention of following through with anything he is saying. We know what he really plans to do to this country.

Obama never ever went and saw his Mother. Never sent her a dime. IF he was so worried about her why didn’t
he go help her out. His half brother is over seas and lives in a shack. Old Barky doesn’t help him either. I just can’t stand him.

Someone shut Barky up please.

Barry wouldn’t know the rules of pre-x if they came up and bit him on the ass. I just..just..don’t have words for what I think of that man child!

what a son see what sort of president he would be.

Let us never be ill on his watch

“obama style” townhall. only on his conditions

God, Obama sounds so STUPID. He doesn’t say anything.

Obama sucks on foreign policy

THIS IS SO WRONG!! Hillary should be the dem’s candidate, not this clown. He is almost taking her points verbatim!!

Vladimir Lenin would be proud of that sonofabitch.

Obama wants to get us involved in more countries than we are in now…

Obama wants to get us involved in more countries than we are in now…

McCain explaining the pragmatic limitiations of foreign involvement and a more nuanced foreign policy

I was just saying the same thing!

Exactly, heaven forbid people take responsibility!

Imagine healthcare cost in a heavily subsidized system.

We need to get back to what things actually cost. Is that physical really $150 or just $75? If we have a heavily subsidized system, why would you care.
Costs would go up drastically and hospitals will continue to bleed money.

In MD $1200 deductible at 271/mon for family of four. Ages range 33-15. It’s possible even with this crappy healthcare system. Total $4452

Obama really does not have a clue about foreign policy. It’s really frightening.

I can’t watch. I tried but had to turn it off. I just love McCain and I can’t STAND seeing that smug, idiotic azz Obama smirking at him. Who the hell does that creep think he is? It’s the typical liberal elitist nonsense. Obama knows more than anyone because he’s Hitler Jesus Osama? Ughhhh…Please make this end. Can someone please post that McCain is winning before I slit my wrists.

Pakistannnnn
he thinks he knows foreign policy because he says pakisttaannnnn

JMO, but this debate seems useless. They can’t even address each other. It’s really just Barky repeating his worthless rhetoric from the first debate. I don’t see anything positive out of this setup. I’m trying not to be too cynical, but I’m wondering if Brokaw reworked all the questions he chose to make sure there wasn’t any chance for opening up new problems for the One. Really, all the questions are too contrived. They are all answered from stump speaches. I thought we were going to see real questions in real time.

do u think obama talks so slow because he dont know what to say?

My verdict is that this is no “game changer.”

Boring…sorry, but that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it.

Ms. Ham of Tennessee cornered Obama with her question. And notice Obama has to provide a exordium before he can answer her question.

I don’t think it is nerves so much as wanting to get as much in as possible. He’s had a lot of lies told about him and he knows he has to address them.

Was his mother even living in America when she got ill? Was she insured by American insurers? I don’t believe he’s told nearly the entire story but to say that she was worried about being reimbursed for existing conditions is not the whole tale. I call BS on Obama.

here he goes on invading pakistan.

Still not answering the question.

blah blah blah

omg he just stole most of hillary’s pakistan speech.

and he is going to invade pakistan.

TADA!!!!

me too

McCain just lost it with his Iraq lack of defense.

I didn’t think he’d be able to crawl away from that sadly.

I am over it. I still hate Iraq but I don’t blame Mack for it solely. He just shouldn’t defend it.

Obama has just won this (dammit)

I can’t see it going the other way after this.

dammit,dammit!

He’s just too much a hawk for most moderates and ALL liberals to handle.

dammit

Loved the Teddy Roosevelt quip! Go McCain!

Obama’s an idiot and I don’t want an idiot in the White House, McCain, yes he is old, yes sometimes he doesn’t appear strong but there is a reason why terrorist countries want Obama to win, cause Obama is a weak moron who doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about, plus he associates with terrorists so birds of a feather…

NObama scares the daylights out of me. I always thought I’d be able to at least try to respect and support whoever our president was….but sorry I just can’t do it for NObama. I will never support him nor respect him. He has not EARNED it.

McCain just got him on his wanting to bomb in Pakistan. LOL

I’m not sure yet if I agree with the ‘no game changer’ sentiment, but it is a bit slow and boring. Obama is quicking OBlahBlah with each of his answers…

Paah-kis-tahn…Taah-li-bahn

the pronounciation sounds so strange

I HATE THAT HE SAYS PAKISTAHN

and what’s with the cheating on “follow ups”?

Talking about Pakistan – Barky is just plain outta his league.

McCain talks from experience and knowledge and wisdom.

Barky talks from a book and a set of talking points his advisers quizzed him on.

He will never be my president. I don’t care what happens in Nov.

“Hey, piss on the rules that I agreed to when McCain shows me up,” says Obama. I need a “quick follow on.” OK, Obama, let’s see what happens when McCain gets to follow up and gets the last word on your “quick follow on.”

I believe the point Mac is making about Obama announcing you’re going to invade Pakistan, (”Remarkable” – good way to characterize), is one of the best yet in the debate. Definitely more credible.

Obama wants a follow-up, contrary to their rules. He’s distressed. Mac’s rebut is good.

Bottom line: don’t telegraph what your’re going to do, and alienate the people in the host country.

By the way, T.R.’s line, “Talk softly, but carry a big stick”, was originally a corollary of The Monroe Doctrine against foreign (European) involvement in the Americas.

mccain called his bluff on attacking pakistaannnnnnnn

which barky tried to say “invade” (worm)

lied about McCain’s record no surprise

“not going to telegraph my punches”

Obama foreign policy is deadly

mcCain doing better with foreign policy issues–Obama sounds like he wants to be tough by talking tough but no one is buying it.

Dawnelle, How do you see it as a game changer about Iraq. Didn’t Hillary also vote for Iraq and are we not winning over there now because of the surge. I know my son was in the surge and he sure sees it that way. Obama is and was wrong on Iraq.

because they all submitted questions earlier and don’t know which one of them will be picked, but they have to ask the pre-submitted question if they are called

Amen.

Obama repeats HRC’s ideas, but can’t flesh them out—but this is the case with his own ideas too! Why? Because he really doesn’t believe in what he says since he has no core values. His only goal is self-interest (i.e. power) and winning the presidency. He’ll let his advisers and cronies figure out those policies and deal with those pesky details.

Aren’t we tired of this type of “leader”, folks?

Isn’t Obama a veteran of Chicago community organizer combat? Didn’t he win the Saul Alinsky Medal of Marxist Honor?

President McCain is wiping the floor with barky on foreign policy.

Indeed. I feel the very same way.

McCain’s kicking his butt on foreign policy.

How many points up in the polls would McCain jump if he just walked over to barky and sucker punched him?

I bet 10.

This is just a repeat. Boring.

many of these questions are repetitive. and why is there not a section on character?

lmao If only.

Rico, no one even remembers the last debate. It’s all about today.

lol

making s*** up on Georgia and russia, barky is not CIC worthy

Obama’s answer is to throw more $$ to the problem…NOT understanding the structural/historical/inherent problems which gave birth to the problem..and this in response to handling Russia

I have decided America is too far gone to save. When you see someone like Obomb where he is…we’re done for. Sorry, but we are. When the liberals decide that they are going to totally destroy this country and make it into Cuba, we’ve lost. I am heartbroken. Even if John wins this tonight, which he will, the scumbags at CNN will lie. What can we do? I will NOT live here with Obama in the White House. We won’t BE here in six months. Someone say something positive. I’m dying here.

Definitely not a game-changer

Obama’s done a lot of boning up. He sounds like such an expert on foreign affairs. I noticed he picked up a few of McCain’s former ideas.

This is true……that’s why if you’re going to drop some major campaign bombs on your opponent you should wait until the last two weeks…. average voters have a very short attention span!

OK – favorite Obamaism so far: “We have to anticipate these things ahead of time…”

Uh, yeah.

Obama steals McCain’s Russian probelm answer….right after McCain laid it out for him.

Can Barack Obama just once…one time in this election say one positive thing about the military. He cant stop promoting his civilian army.

I’ll share my zantac with you……… sob

yes but Hillary never defended it or how we got tricked into it………..

it’s like all that yellow cake BS didn’t ever happen???

I still think this is why Pelosi took impeachment off the table otherwise she had EVERY REASON to take Bush and CHeney down for all the lies!!!!

Where’s Joe Wilson these days? IF he comes out and says he was just trying to set up Cheney and there REALLY was a reason to go into Iraq like we DID???? then it will always be a mistake.

jmo and that of EVERY liberal I know and most moderates and a LOT of Indies. No one has admitted to the lies yet. We need accountablility!!! I’ve never heard an apology for the lies or even a half assed good excuse for it. Only OIL and GW’s daddy not getting Hussein the first time. Breaking 100 no fly zones or what ever is still no reason to just bust into a country and start busting it all to pieces!! What about all the millions that could afford to flee (barely)

if someone did that to me I’d be angry for a hundred years! No apology, no reparations? it’s heinous.

sorry it’s the way I feel

believe it or not I’m still a Puma 4 Palin

i just hate this war

I’ll share my zantac with you……… My heart is breaking too

To Having a Heart Attack….it ain’t over til that large lady sings…so don’t give up hope yet friend!

later on in this I will repeat myself 3 times… server seems a little busy tonight for some reason….
I’ll watch the rest sans comment

I think McCain is kicking ass. He’s doing better than I expected & looks calm & confident. Barky is alternately rattled or arrogant; and half the time I don’t know what the hell he’s talking about (my husband keeps saying he’s talking out of his ass).

I don’t think he sounds like any kind of expert, and expecially a foreign policy expert.

Sorry, dude. It looks pretty even to me. A tie isn’t going to be enough for McCain, but if he doesn’t do something dramatic soon, that’s what he’s going to get.

ANNNNND Barky is lost

right you are. honestly, obama reminds me much more of bush than mccain does! i’m wondering why no one else seems to notice that.

I hate the way Obama stumbles through answers. Lordy, just spit it out.

Good..McCain brought up Obama’s previous statement of proposing a Presidential level meeting with the rouge nations without preconditions…

watch Obama obfuscate his previous statement

Obama finds it TOO easy to lie…”I have consistently said” against FACT

Did anyone else notice BO cited Delaware as a state that allows banks to bypass or avoid certain rules. I bet his running mate, Joe Biden is so happy he pointed that out.

I’ve got one word for comrade Obama. He’s WEAK. We don’t need no pussy president.

Now, now. Take a pill. We’re A-OK. This country has been through worst times and we have figured it out. We will figure this one out too.

McCain/Palin 08

Did Obama not shake Terry’s hand??

Take heart here—

Americans are not stupid. They will defeat Obama like they took down flight 92.

hang in there, and know it for a fact the media will lie.

What will you do if Iran attacks Israel? Mc Cain answer question, Obambi is rattles on into energy conservation and sanctions.

i know barky knows everything!!!! he is the messiah, afterall!!!

Obama learns what he doesn’t know by asking Michelle.

God help us all.

Drudge has the poll up

http://www.drudgereport.com/

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…

MCCAIN
73% 14,627
OBAMA
24% 4,885
NEITHER
2% 448

Total Votes: 19,960

Tom Brokaw played it safe. I guess his excuse of not including an Ayers or character question in because they had 6 million submissions. Its too bad that its a vanilla, already asked question.

To the Zen like question – I no a bullshitter when I see one Senator Barack Soetoro Hussein Obama.

Did he just finish off with a “nuanced” race card?

Did he answer even one question?

Did Obama just flip flop again saying he would meet with Iran without preconditions (after denying all summer that he didn’t mean it).

Obama’s grandmother apparently scrimped and used food stamps. Ugh. Lies never ever end with this clown.

eh, Flight 93.

I’m so sick of BoBo waxing poetic about his modest beginnings. How does going to prep schools figure into that?

Mac was nicer to him tonight. Guess he practiced not being so tough.

Does NObama EVER answer a question????

Make him shut up!

Holy shit! Did Obama just say that he was going to rely on Marxist Michelle to teach him OJT how to be President? Well, that’s how it worked out in the law firm lo those many years ago.

I think McCain is debating in great pain. Watch him move. He is trying to put mind over the pain, and succeeding, in most part. He can hardly walk or barely move.

What don’t you know………. we don’t know sha8t about obama!

remember when he said his mother read him the Constitution when he was a boy?

yeah right, right after passages from the Bible

John is making me cry for the future of our country!

John’s answer to the last Q. sounds more like a president to me than Obama’s. More directed to us, than himself.

Went over to Foxnews – a majority of comments seem to think that McCain is winning. Of course it’s Fox but where else can you go?

When times are tough we need a steady hand–John McCain

Great line!

Mac hit all the points the talking heads said he needed to. I think he did great. He makes me feel safer than Bushie or Barry,

OH G-D..the food stamp bit again…but then Obama said he was able to accomplish he did which he could not have done in “any other part of this country”..soooo by living in Hawaii was different that any in other state?? DUH

Obama sounded like a replay recording..full of platitues

Sadly he never remembered anything regarding that Constitution… LOL

I want a President who doesn’t make me nauseous. Is that too much to ask?

McCain-Palin ’08

Too constrained, formalized, and sober. Not what I’ve seen of previous townhalls. How about a real Lincoln-Douglas debate, even outside for several hours?

Question: Senator Obama, What don’t you know?

I’ll ramble for 5 minutes and never answer the damn question, so I suppose I don’t know how to answer a damn question.

OH G-D..the food stamp bit again…but then Obama said he was able to accomplish he did which he could not have done in “any other part of this country”..soooo by living in Hawaii was different that any in other state?? DUH

Obama sounded like a replay recording..full of platitudes

The MSM will obviously give it to Obama..that is why McCain needs to put out more revealing ads

McCain won, hands down.

ok so boring, not a game changer – BUT a great ending for Mac!

I actually liked McCain tonight.

Did Barry actually confirm he is a socialist when he talked about how unfair it was when there are teachers making 35k and others living high on the hog…and that that needs to stop?

PBS guys are blasting both of them for not adjusting their platforms to the new economic situation.

Me too…I want McCain/Palin to win or I am going to hibernate for 4 years…

Doc I hope you are right

personally I think he did terrible

dammit, dammit, dammit

lol

I was just clicking past cnn, in time to hear David Gergen announce that Obama had a “modest win tonight”. Ugh!

Palin used to do Sports News on TV, she is trained for going in front of the camera but she is very good with a crowd, a real natural, McCain has none of that.

Obama is a big yawn….he never answers a question just drones. McCain is way ahead at the Drudge Report survey….Lets keep it that way.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCaskills_edge.html

‘McCaskill’s edge’

“I mentioned a few days ago that Claire McCaskill’s mild affect masks a bit of a killer, and perhaps the Obama campaign’s deftest surrogate on the attack.

But I was still kind of amused by her brief interaction with Mitt Romney in the press file just now.

McCaskill was stepping out of her chair at the end of an MSNBC interview, and Romney was up next. She and a staffer unplugged her various wires, and she handed Romney the earpiece the guests use to hear the host.

“I spit on this before I put it in,” she said to Romney, with a sweet smile.

By Ben Smith 08:48 PM”

Tomorrow I want Sarah to bring up Khalid al Monsouri, read from his statement about writing a recommendation letter and pose the question: How much did the Saudi Prince give for Barry’s Harvard education?

People always remember the last statements. McCain was the Beacon of Liberty, Optimism, Hard-work and Compassion from those in his life through the tough times.

I can’t even seem to remember what the hell Obama said other than he DIDN’T ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION: “What don’t you know and how would you go about to resolving it?”

I hope she does, too. And I like the new moniker, Annie.

[ADMIN: YOU'LL BE PEDDLING YOUR HATE ELSEWHERE NOW, Dave. Adios.]

They liked Mac’s mortgage negotiation idea. They are giving Obama credit for being better at counterpunching.

Slight favor to Obama for style. Slight favor to McCain on substance.

The Obama guy says McCain belittles Obama, which is “bad.” The McCain guy says that he had to do something.

I welcome feedback should someone disagree with me n my viewpoints. I guess being Canadian I don’t understand why the U.S. would potentially elect another “Bush” as president. Is it just me or is it much easier to listen to the wisdom of Obama as opposed to the old-folk rambling of Yoda?? I found it extremely tough to listen to this to french fry in that he never really answered questions, he merely resorted to a slick-willy, used car sales dance around the issues tactics. At least Obama gave concrete answers of what he would do. And what was with the “friends” babble that dinosaur would spout every 2 seconds he spoke? There’s a saying that is more profound than McCain could ever be and it says “someone who is friends to everyone is friends to no one”. All that that fossil wants to do is continue Hitler a.k.a. George Bush’s plan for world domination. I pray that the U.S. makes the right choice and elects Obama for President so that change for the better may come about. Should they lose sight an elect Mc Cain, it will surely spell misfortune and turmoil. Mc Cain will turn the U.S. into a locust race whereby their military will continue to continuously go in and demolish countries that go against them or “create” propoganda to get the U.S. people behind them in order to validate them going into a country to hoover their resources then leave once there is no more interest or value left in it for them.

Wow, the panel Lutz had–we must be a nation of idiots, or Virginia’s smartest have already chosen McCain.

Now that fossil McGovern is on. Actually I thought he was dead.

Oh well, I’m done with this. I heard answers from McCain, lies and circular thoughts from Obama.

LOL!

The bottom line is going to come down to how many people will trust one candidate over the other to compromise our inherent free market system in order to attempt to save it. How far are we willing to gamble with the very essence of who we are as an economic nation to save the few or the numerous in order to promote/guarantee the survival of the most…which is the nation as a whole.

It will come down to TRUST when all of us vote on Nov 4

He said to ask Michelle. Great answer (Not)

No signs of Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright. No signs of a real town hall meeting either. This was the last attempt of the mainstream media to hit Mac in the kneecaps. Why did they need to pre-select the questions? Why not have people raise their hands and ask what they wished? Where was the excitement and the interaction? Where the hell was the fire in the belly? Mac dropped a bombshell with his “buy up the bad mortgages” plan to turn each bad loan into a workout. His delivery of it … and Obama’s reaction to it … made them both look mildly sedated. Brokaw looked like he had taken a sedative as well. Advantage, once again, to the empty suit Obama who only needs to show up. If I hear the phrase “We’re facing tough times ….” one more time, I’m gong to start throwing my popcorn.

According to the group of voters whom Fox’s Frank Luntz talked to after the debates, Obama did best on the health care issue. I WONDER WHY? Didn’t Obama rip off part of HRC’s plan?

The last qusetion, what dont you know. Obama should have said ” I know nothing”. *( Just like Sgt Schulz)*

I dont know this at all, and I am sick of this BS.

I cover everyone at my business and most cost less than $5k. Much less.

Yeah, it’s just you. Why come here with your Obama crap? We’re not interested in having a socialist, terrorist as our president. So get lost.

I hear CANADA calling you, AY? We’ll send NoBAMA to you guys!

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Hillary IS STILL THE BEST we could have had

thank god for border security:

maybe things get lost in translation “french fry”? but you are describing Fauxbama’s naive military stance, not Mac’s.

bone up on Fauxbama’s humanitarian aid to Odinga…

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Barack-Obama-Posters_i2882638_.htm

ROTFLMAO!

Yes…as if on could anticipate things from the past…

The healthcare issue can be solved, but the Insurance companies are the ones that need to change. When you have “clerical” personnel making the decisions the pateints suffer. Employers are choosing plans based on what the Insurance companies offer. And addiltional riders. The money is unreal copays, deductables, all controlled by one entity.

What is needed is someone to tell them, nope you have to change and reform. Make it less about profit and more about the patient.

I dont have Insurance, but I do deal with Insurance companies in my job. It needs to change. Reform it.

You guys notice that all the callers on Cspan who support Obama are black.

It’s weird how Obama is winning all these polls but everytime Cspan has the caller session all Obama supporters are black.

You guys notice that all the callers on Cspan who support Obama are black.

It’s weird how Obama is winning all these polls but everytime Cspan has the caller session all Obama supporters are black.

I think all these polls are bullshit

I don’t like the idea of having people who are ‘undecided’ at town hall debates. Why not have one-third each and have real, substantive questions.

Besides, how can you be undecided at this point of the race? Four months and you still haven’t decided is weird. Perhaps they shouldn’t vote for a presidential candidate – skip that box.

What refinement she exudes. How well mannered. That’s reason enough not to have these cretins in the WH.

Thanks to those of you who answered my cry for help and encouragement. I love McCain. Sorry, I do. And I love Palin. What a crime if those two don’t get a chance to take the White House. Can you imagine the difference in Obama’s America and theirs? It’s not even a question. I pray that God shines his loving light on this country and intervenes because clearly there are some really stupid people in this country who don’t deserve to live here.

Yeah, they lied. They weren’t undecided at all. The Yuppie segment didn’t even need to open their little mouths. I knew what they were going to say.

I noticed on another site (Hillary44?) last night that someone had deciphered a CBS poll…very heavily slanted once the internal numbers were observed. They were asking a higher percentage of Dems than Republicans so naturally Barry was ahead. I think that’s happening on all of them.

Sarah’s been out there pounding away with big, big crowds. Don’t tell me these are not changing the numbers.

I want her to attack about Khalid al Monsouri (sp?) and the conversation he has on video talking about the Saudi getting Barry into Harvard.

After the first debate a woman said McCain stammered and didn’t give straight answers…he asked McCain did? she said yes….it was Obama who did the stammering. These people are lying to get in on these to throw them. Everyone knows Obama him haws around and does not answer the question.

Yes , USA is a chant at Palin and McCain rally’s and Obama people go there and chant NO U S A! They need to leave our country if they don’t like it.

Mandelay, I believe they will continue to take him apart on the campaign trail. Sarah will not have an appearance without it. Tomorrow she’s on Greta and sometime this week they will both be on with Hannity.

Believe me, Hannity can think of nothing else. You know they will hit every association plus the new socialist connection.

I’m changing my name too.

Vote in AOL POLL

vote if you haven’t already

Still on Fox. Thompson is so much better defending McCain than campaigning for himself…so is Romney. I want to hear Guiliani.

My God, I’m turning into a Republican. Today I was feeling sorry for President Bush and loving Rove. Thus the strange effect of Barack Obama.

I think maybe the mortgage buy-out proposal was so stunning and unexpected that no one was immediately able to process what McCain had just said. The bombshell may detonate tomorrow. I have no clue what the political results will be.

What they’re really chanting is M-E-C-C-A.

What they’re really chanting is M-E-C-C-A (the bots).

whoops, sorry. This is so slooooow.

Canadians have become as arrogant as the French since they started selling us oil. I bet they want Obama so he’ll keep buying oil from them instead of getting our own.

I don’t know why the Canadians suddenly think they are so smart. Remember the Canadian reporter that called Sarah a porn star and her supporters white trash.

I think the Canadians need to keep their drunk asses on their side of the fence and quit worrying about the great U.S.A.

They just want us to be piss ants like them!!!!

We are Famileeeee.

since your Canadian, your opinion does not matter here troll.

Obama said what he thought. The point was valid.

State laws governing lending practices aren’t under federal jurisdiction.

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