Andrea Mitchell, Intoxicated Ass Pimple

howwwwwllll; barking,

would that the news would use a graphic to describe which club or lobby each person represents on the tube. if someone is known to be biased by nature, anyone listening should know. sure would put a lot of people off the circuit though wouldn’t it? Tom Delay, felon. Newt G. Multiple sinner. Denny Hastert, Turkish Ambassador, it would be nice to see credentials for the folks that are saying the things that they do. We get that with people like Larry and tonight Josh on Countdown, Jane as well, and you all sound far more credible than the ones that have been around too long.
I hope someone else caught Fineman saying and I paraphrase: “they caught them firing 8 prosecutors for not taking orders, now if they could find some more maybe they’d have something”

how much more? it is a circus. an outrage, a disgrace, and hopefully, something that will remove the perps

With Republicans, it’s always the alcohol, isn’t it? The hypocritical cocksucking, the corruption, the stupid statements. Blame Jim Beam and Jack Daniels. It wasn’t us.

I wonder how long it’ll take for Tony Snow to admit that Junior was drunk when he invaded Iraq?

What plans have you guys got for the 4th anniversary on the 19th (those of you who aren’t marching on the Pentagon on the 17th, anyway)?

and I don’t want to leave out so many other great bloggers that have done so well in exposing the waste,

OldTree, JP, yes, they always have some excuse (sic/sick), do they not? Blame Clinton mentality. They are always quick to point out blame, and when not able to do that, attack the messenger. They leave no stone unturned in their efforts to subvert the truth. That’s why blogs like this one, have come to mean so much to those of us who seek the truth, in our efforts to keep maintain what is left of our democracy.

JP, I want to say a special thanks for all the work that you put into your Faux Propaganda News piece, and thank you esp for joining us here at NO Quarter. I look forward to reading your comments.

GE owns NBC. If you want to know who owns all the other networks, just go to Google and enter your question.

It is pointless to think that any “news” network is going to be completely independent of the interests of the mother corporation.

GE profits from all kinds of things that the neo-cons have set in motion. GE supported Chimpy in 2000.

Because of this, journalistic hacks/imposters like the ass pimple in question serve a purpose.

Doesn’t it annoy you–just a little?–to know that corporations have more power and rights than you do?

They’re toying with us…and we’re the last to know.

Hi, Larry.
Interesting. But I wonder if we couldn’t expand the boundaries of the coterie you’re exposing, here, to include not just the Jewish members of the PNAC cabal, but the (umpteenth generation) German members, among whom are the Bus(c)hes. Before we start to paste historically and emotionally charged labels on groups of people in power, let’s remember that, gay or straight, liberal or conservative, jewish or christian or muslim, German, Italian, Irish, Icelandic, English, or Mauritanian, we are all people. And when people in power get together, the only thing that binds them is the power they wield, whether it’s economic, or judicial, or parental. Bush, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Armitage, et al., are brutal, would-be dictators. Nothing more. Nothing less. We (very) inadvertently perpetuate stereotypes and inbred hatred when we aver that people like these are bound by a tradition like Judaism. No more than it would serve to characterize the Shrub as a Christianist! Sorry. got carried away. I’m an atheist, you see, so I’m a little sensitive about these religious epithets.
Keep fighting the good fight, Larry. And leave the (inadvertent or intended) bigotry to the right wing (nuts).

Cannuck,
No intended or unintended anti-semitism on my part. But it is what it is. I was tipped to this by a very close friend of mine who happens to be Jewish. The point is that they meet together regularly on an important occasion. Therefore we shouldn’t be shocked that Andrea is carrying water for her buddies.

Hi, Canuck Stuck in Muck
You give yourself up!
“I’m an atheist, you see, so I’m a little sensitive about these religious epithets.”
So you do not know what the hell is an atheist means.

Just to clarified the Jewish question I am grateful to Michael Neumann who make clear for me, in The Politics of Anti-Semitism edited by Alexander Cockburn of http://www.counterpunch.org/neumann0604.html

-’Anti-Semitism’, properly and narrowly speaking, doesn’t mean hatred of Semites; that is to confuse etymology with definition. It means hatred of Jews. But here, immediately, we come up against the venerable shell game of Jewish identity: “Look! We’re a religion! No! A race! No! A cultural identity! Sorry-a religion!” When we tire of this game, we get suckered into another: “Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism!” quickly alternates with” Don’t confuse Zionism with Judaism! How dare you, you anti-Semite!”

Which bring us to the dual loyalty game. But do not confuse Neoconservatives with Jewish as some wanted to claim today because it is nothing but a confluence of religious and political zealots in a bellicose sphere foster in the Israel-Palestinian conflict, as with the downfall of communism we need to pick other fights, to sell more arms.

Hi, Larry. I didn’t want to put you on the defensive, or insinuate that you are a Jew-hater (thanks to censor for clarifying what anti-semitism is). I know you aren’t. Nor am I a bigot. But I know how one can unwittingly perpetuate such hatred. I once took a seat on a bus in Vancouver. At the next stop, a man and a woman got on the bus, and took the seat in front of me. The man was obviously drunk. A short while later, he turned around and asked the person next to me if he had the time. As my next-door-neighbor lifted his wrist to check the time, the man in the forward seat hauled off an cold-cocked my neighbor. The driver heard the ensuing ruckus and pulled the bus to the curb, then got out of his seat to investigate. The assailant grabbed his girlfriend and ran out the side door, with the driver in pursuit. The driver was outrun. When he returned to take control of the bus, the side door of the bus just exploded, as the drunkard kicked it in. So? What’s your point, Canuck?
It’s this. As I told the story in the next few days, it dawned on me what I was achieving. I wasn’t simply telling the story of a drunk out of control. Instead, I had begun each telling with the phrase, “So, then this Indian gets on the bus, and blah, blah, blah.” If it had been a ‘white’ guy, I wouldn’t have said, “So, this white guy gets on the bus….” If he’d been South Asian, I probably wouldn’t have said anything about his ‘different’ point of origin. And so, I thought, this is how stereotypes are perpetuated–by people like me, who consider themselves liberal and unbigoted, but who nevertheless choose (consciously or un-) to attach significance to difference. I don’t give a damn if Scooter, and Andrea and Alan, and the rest are Jewish (even if they are partial to Israel–shit, Bush is partial to Texas, and WArner to Virginia, and me to Canada). It doesn’t mean that Jewishness equals secret power-mongering, which, I’m sorry to say, is one way to construe your post. I’m not saying it’s the way you intended it! I’m just saying it’s the way it CAN BE perceived. If you want me to just fuck off, now, so be it. I think nothing less of you now than I did before I read your post. And I think nothing less of you now.
Keep fighting the good fight!

What censor said! Canuck, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, and Larry has already answered for himself. But, I *wondered* how long it would take before a post appeared with your sentiments/feelings on the subject. I don’t feel discourse is furthered when we are not allowed to notice that a group of allied people also happen to be Jewish- much less state it out loud. As Larry said, it wasn’t his thought, but a fact pointed out to him by a card-carrying-member of the tribe. The point is that the people cited above have in common their politics- not their religion/culture; specifically, their absolutist, far right Lukidist Zionism and belief of destruction of Palestinians. I mean no snark in this post- please believe me. A lifetime of experiences, real, cultural, friendships, travel and very specific to this topic, compel me to ask you to simply reconsider, especially the framing…while I suspect that your intentions are very well meaning, in fact, (guessing here) hoping to move the dialogue beyond the pathetic trap of “organized religion”, I still feel this is a topic that needs MORE fresh air, light of day and honest conversation. In Israel, they are a bit more comfortable (ha!) with addressing it head-on. And, for whatever it is worth, here is where I am -I personally have come to this conclusion, in agreement with the late comic Richard Jeni on religion: “You’re basically killing each other to see who’s got the better imaginary friend.”
And, as censor pointed out, there’s a whole lotta money to be made in having people kill each other. Lord of War.

My thanks to censor and Uppity Gal. And, always, to Larry. And Susan.

I have to agree with Jane about the cesspool that NBC has become (CNN is even worse). Its hosts AND talking heads are so, so predictable. I can mute the TV and tell you exactly what they’re saying according to which show they’re on. If they’re on Imus, they agree with everything he says; if they’re on Tucker, they’re suddenly cons; if they’re on Matthews, they’re suddenly submissive from all the spit and drivel he’s slinging their way; (Olhbermann doesn’t invite them on his show); and on and on.

Mitchell, like the WashPo whores are camera-hungry; they’ll do or say anything to make that appearance, to sound authoritative when we’re all laughing at how silly and wrong they are. I either keep the TV muted or lean on the fast-forward button when they appear!

A Jewish cabal? I am SHOCKED, I tell you…SHOCKED!

And I thought she just kept her job because she was shtuppin’ Jack Welch on the side.

Gee, Larry – tell us what you really think…
That Jane is the inspiration for many a great post. Thanks!

‘Inebriated’ would be a better supporting word.

Also, the neocons represent Jews, like the Klan represents Christians, or Al Qaeida represents Muslims:
only to interests that suit their own purposes, not to those of the groups they claim doctrinal adherence to.

No one pillar of Abraham’s faith is immune to persons claiming its authority for their own greed and hate.

It just so happens that certain persons with inordinate influence on our foregin policy happen to claim this inspired right to direct policy based upon their bastard interpretations.

Nice quote from Richard Jeni, Uppity Gal.

My own personal favorite on that score is “It is computed that eleven thousand persons have at several times suffered death, rather than submit to break their eggs at the smaller end.”

Jonathan Swift, 1726. Plus ca change…

I won’t hold my breath waiting for main stream corporate media to be accountable to the public.

Even though, in the case of broadcasters, the law says they should be as a condition of their FCC license, it’s contradictory to their other accountability. That other accountability is the stockholders – the bottom line. They do this not only because they want to, but also because they have to. That’s right folks, corporation law says that corporations are required to work in the best interest of their investors.

That means that the primary interest of media outlets is to sell customers to advertisers.

Larry,
Sorry, but my reaction to your post was similar to Canuck’s. I’m atheist too, but my family heritage is Jewish. I know you’re not anti-Semitic, and I intuited what you meant, but your post could be misread. In fact, it wasn’t until your reply to Canuck that you clarified it.

The problem for me is when we get into broad generalizations about people. Andrea Mitchell, Alan Greenspan, Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby may all be Jewish and part of the Bush administration and Neocon cabal, but it’s not their religion that brings them together but their common ideology. It’s their ideology that dangerous. When you talk about it as if it’s their religion bringing them together, I feel that excludes the majority of American Jews [87%] who voted against Bush, don’t agree with his policies, and don’t support war in the Middle East. The Bushicons don’t represent America anymore than they represent Israel. [It's not in Israel's interest to destabilize the entire Middle East with war in Iraq and possible war in Iran.] So what these people represent is an American right-wing ideology that finds sympathy among the members of the Likud Party. I think that needs to be clarified.

Oh, and Mitchell is an ass pimple!

“When you talk about it as if it’s their religion bringing them together, I feel that excludes the majority of American Jews [87%] who voted against Bush, don’t agree with his policies, and don’t support war in the Middle East.”

That’s an interesting fact. Perhaps the group in question is part of the 13% who adore Chimpy…and the other 87% were not invited to their functions?

And it leaves corporate ownership of networks as the primary reason for the likes of Ass Pimple?

*That* factor is missing from this discussion, while everybody focuses on religion. Jane appeals to NBC to lance this boil, and I’m sure NBC is collectively thinking, “What boil? There’s no boil. Chimpy’s been good to us.”

However, I disagree that there is no sub-story here relating to religion. As one who loathes religion, I can still see and smell it when it rears its ugly head.

Religion is a convenient rallying point, a means to another end, much the way 9/11 was an oh-so-convenient means to a completely unrelated end.

Crackers,
But whose religion comprises the subtext? Bush’s or Andrea Mitchell’s? If Mitchell, Greenspan, Libby, Perle, Wolfowitz all joined for a big Christmas dinner, I doubt we’d be talking about religion.

But there have been stories of a secretive and elitist Christian (or Christianist) society to which many members of the ruling elite belong. That’s not insignificant. Nor is the influence of figures like Dobson, Falwell or Robertson on Bush nor the way their eschatology dovetails with the thinking of the neocons. Christianity has gotten an extremely bad press from this administration. All that is part of the story. So is the tidbit that Larry just imparted. We’ve all known that Andrea Mitchell has been posing as an impartial journalist while her husband was an anything-but-impartial Chairman of the Fed who was dispensing disastrous financial advice to the nation. Now it turns out they as a couple have extremely close personal relationships to the movers and shakers in this war, including Libby. She’s just been caught lying on screen about a poll on Libby’s pardon when it turns out she has a personal interest in getting him pardoned. I don’t care about her religion. If she can’t recuse herself as an objective journalist, NBC should do it for her.

If all these people were good white Christians, and all of this happened in Israel instead of the USA, you can damned well bet that religious affiliation would indeed be a factor in gatherings to celebrate Christmas.

Same holds true if all these people were Mormans.

I’ve been around all three of these types/cultures more than I can stand, and there are strong bonds, commitments, and loyalties to “the flock”.

It is simply unrealistic for some here to be denying the obvious. Almost as ridiculous as labeling me a Jew-hater or a Christian-hater for what I’ve written.

Who said 87% of American Jews were against the war? All the Jewish people I know, liberal or conservative, supported the war in Iraq. I was perticularly disappointed in an old Jewish friend of mine who supported the war. This is borne out by the fact that almost 100% of Jewish journalists and commentators supported the war.

Those who support Israel use the claim of anti-Semitism against anyone who is crtical of Israel or US support for Israel. Jews can easily shame non-Jews into silence by claiming anti-Semitism because so many non-Jews are burdened by holocaust guilt.

At some point non-Jews have to reject the charge of anti-Semitism. We have to make the case that the interests of the United States and the interests of Israel are not one and the same, and refuse to accept the anti-Semite label.

Most neocons are staunch supporters of Israel The fact that many neocons are Jewish is not a surprise, but religion is not the issue. The issue is support for the occupation and the suppression of non-Jews.

Dancer,

As I’m sure you know, anecdotal evidence based on your personal acquaintances, doesn’t make a statistical study. FWIW, I had a number of Jewish friends who opposed the war in Iraq. And while quite a number of the neocons are Jewish, they also include luminaries like Dick Cheney and allies like the lunatic theocons who are expecting the Mideast wars to blow up the world and usher in the Second Coming. If all these folks feel like crawling into the same bed, all we can do is expose the lunacy, which is a blot on people of good will everywhere.

I agree with Delia–religious affiliations do not matter. There are idiots and plotters and in fact terrorist extremists in all religions. I have just gone through the whole range of t-acts by religious fanatics–they, like the personally not violent extremists (i.e., neo- conservatives) have all the same extremist hang-ups.
As for Ms. Mitchell–her star rose when she teams up with Greenspan–while she did not cover him and the Fed–what a source!

hmm…even better to revisit this post and see what has developed. To be fair, I probably sounded too fixated on Canuck. i posted and ended up right after his(?) further elaboration- which was great, and had points that were-well, well taken. kudos.

I still stand by what I said, “The point is that the people cited above have in common their politics- not their religion/culture; specifically, their absolutist, far right Lukidist Zionism and belief of destruction of Palestinians.”

that is the point, and all here have contributed to the discourse with their take on it…that is a point too- you are all right/correct, but still it illustrates my intimation perfectly- we get gacked up and twisted, missing the crucial truth, whenever the basic subject arises.

Look at the likes of mr. & mrs. cheney, the wingnut absolutist Revelations crowd, buying up land in Israel and radio time to spew their fanaticism and make nice with Jews as they tell them to their face, with not a hint of irony or humor- “oh yeah, and when Christ shows up, renounce him and we’ll be first in line to slaughter YOU, dear friend.” – they fit my quote, and hang with Andrea, Libby and crew as well. All a bunch of snakes, hiding behind and actively working the religion. it’s insanity- defined. Still, we must do what has occured in this post=talk with each other. As I said, at the euphemistic “ground zero” of this, Israel, israelis actively dive into this water and go for it.Their daily lives and citizenry demand it. They are far from perfect, but actively engaged. In a nation that brags of a cornerstone of “free speech”, we can not shirk from the conversation. Thanks for the dialogue.

Though unscientific, in my opinion, I believe that the vast majority of American Jews, of which I am one, are liberal. The reason for this is because as a minority group (2-3% of the U.S. population), and often the subject of hate groups and persecution most Jews support civil rights, gay rights, etc. I also believe that conservatives’ strong support for Israel is less because they favor Israel than because they despise they Arab/Muslim countries surrounding Israel. If the other countries surrounding Israel were some kind of Christian theocracies, it wouldn’t surprise me if the U.S. intelligence sources under this administration would discover “Israel has become a threat against us.”

hough unscientific, in my opinion, I believe that the vast majority of American Jews, of which I am one, are liberal. The reason for this is because as a minority group (2-3% of the U.S. population), and often the subject of hate groups and persecution most Jews support civil rights, gay rights, etc. I also believe that conservatives’ strong support for Israel is less because they favor Israel than because they despise they Arab/Muslim countries surrounding Israel. If the other countries surrounding Israel were some kind of Christian theocracies, it wouldn’t surprise me if the U.S. intelligence sources under this administration would discover “Israel has become a threat against us.”

Most Jews are liberal, but their liberalism only extends to things like state/religion separation, civil rights etc. However, recently I have noticed a marked trend towards conservatism, which they like to call Libertarian. However, when it comes to the middle-east, most Jews are conservative and support the neo-cons.

To the poster who said that 87% of Jews opposed the Iraq war, where did you get that information? I don’t believe there have been anly polls taken on this issue. And most Jews are afraid to come right out with their support of the war. Even a lot of the neo-con Jewish media reporters are now recanting on their war advocacy.

you are one big Anti Semetic  pimple on the ass  of your publisher.
I hope some Israeli sends Uzi up your ass one day!

Keep up the fine work Larry. The parasites must go.