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Washington Post Editors Continue Smearing the Wilsons (Updated)

(Note from Larry: I’ve tweaked the piece to sharpen the focus. The first draft was written in the heat of the moment. I hope this flows better.)

When will the Washington Post editorial page decide to stop smearing Joe and Valerie Wilson? The Post is up in arms over Hollywood’s “disregard for the truth” and is out in print today with an editorial trying to discredit the Wilson’s and the movie. Good on the Post. Their editorial is a tangible reminder that the Post’s editorial team has learned nothing from its shameful cheerleading for the Bush invasion of Iraq and its defense of the leak that destroyed the career of a covert CIA case officer–Valere Plame.

What is driving the Post on this matter? Is it the commercial and critical success of Fair Game, the movie based on the book by Valerie Plame Wilson recounting the professional and personal harm inflicted on her and her family because her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson, who had the audacity to call out the Bush Administration for lying to the American people about the rationale for going to war in Iraq? Is it lingering petty anger at Joe Wilson because he published the famous op-ed in the pages of the New York Times rather than the Post challenging the Bush Administration’s claim that Iraq was buying yellowcake uranium?

It is the essence of irony that the Post’s editorial page, which acquired a reputation of journalistic courage for pursuing Richard Nixon’s abuses of power, is to now using that platform to act as the chief apologist for George W. Bush’s ill-conceived and unjustified war in Iraq by attacking people like Joe and Valerie Wilson.

Today’s editorial concludes with this:

Mr. Wilson claimed that he had proved that Mr. Bush deliberately twisted the truth about Iraq, and he was eagerly embraced by those who insist the former president lied the country into a war. Though it was long ago established that Mr. Wilson himself was not telling the truth – not about his mission to Niger and not about his wife – the myth endures. We’ll join the former president in hoping that future historians get it right.

When it comes to truth twisting on Iraq the Washington Post should look in the mirror. Joe’s op-ed in the NY Times did not make the claim that Joe, “proved that Mr. Bush deliberately twisted the truth.” Joe Wilson wrote:

Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?

Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq’s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.

If the Post is going to skewer Hollywood for alleged inaccuracies then it ought to lead by example and get its facts scrupulously correct. Nowhere in that July 2003 did Joe Wilson accuse George W. Bush of lying.

The Post also repeats the vicious, despicable claim that Ambassador Wilson lied about his wife. The only one lying in this matter is the Post’s editorial page. These are the simple facts:

Valerie Wilson was covert CIA case officer who was still under non-official cover status when Robert Novak, with help from the White House of George W. Bush, exposed her identity. The Washington Post continues to insist that only State Department’s Richard Armitage was to blame, when the public record, including testimony in the Scooter Libby trial, shows that White House officials Karl Rove and Ari Fishcer, among others, were spreading Val’s name around town with various reporters. The fact that those reporters did not publish the information, and thus insulated the likes of Rover and Fishcer against being indicted, does not change the fact that there was a coordinated White House effort to use Valerie’s identity and association to discredit Joe.

If accurate reporting is the standard it is worth noting that Pincus and Leiby also reported:

The movie effectively dispenses with the canard that Valerie Plame Wilson was not a covert operative . . .the question of how Joe Wilson was picked for the unpaid Niger assignment. Here, the picture gets it right. The CIA says its counterproliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him; she did not “recommend” him. In fact, agency officials had used him for an earlier overseas assignment.

Valerie was Chief of Operations on the Directorate of Operations Iraq Task Force. She had the job of running field operations with human assets to uncover Iraqi efforts to acquire nuclear technologies. What Valerie did was so sensitive that the CIA continues to deny her the legal right admit to having worked for the CIA prior to February 2002. The CIA insist on the legal fiction seven years after her identity was exposed and still demands that she not acknowledge in public what is already in the public domain. No intelligence organization make such demands on a person who was just a “desk jockey” or “glorified secretary.”

The exposure of Valerie’s position as a CIA officer not only destroyed her career, but caused significant damage to the national security of the United States. Of course the Post editorial page is loathe to admit that fact. Today’s editorial includes the following claim:

The movie portrays Ms. Plame as having cultivated a group of Iraqi scientists and arranged for them to leave the country, and it suggests that once her cover was blown, the operation was aborted and the scientists were abandoned. This is simply false. In reality, as The Post’s Walter Pincus and Richard Leiby reported, Ms. Plame did not work directly on the program, and it was not shut down because of her identification.

Well, actually, we do not know the specifics of what Valerie did and did not do at the CIA. As noted above the CIA refuses to this day to acknowledge that Valerie worked at the CIA prior to February 2002. Pincus and Leiby wrote:

It’s true that Valerie Plame Wilson was working with one of the CIA’s teams trying to gather intelligence on Iraq WMD operations, but she evidently did not play the central role that the film puts her in. She was not directly part of the scientist program, according to agency officials. . . .

Although the film suggests that the blowing of Valerie’s cover led directly to the shutdown of the Iraqi scientist exfiltration, an intelligence insider told us: “Something like this, if it was going on, wouldn’t have been canceled for this reason.”

Although the movie does a good job of representing the kind of work that Valerie did as a case officer, it does not tell what she really did because the CIA will not allow her to talk. Valerie did not, cannot and does not talk about what she did. She’s kept her part of the bargain that came with taking a job at CIA even though many senior CIA officials neglected to hold up their part of the bargain. I find it curious that CIA officials acknowledge that she did work on the scientist program but “not directly.” So enough of the anonymous quotes to reporters. Let’s get everyone on the record. I know that Valerie is ready to go. She has never been one to exaggerate her status. She is not your typical Washington-based bureaucratic climber who inflates their resume and work accomplishments.

Even though I still hold Top Secret clearances, Valerie has not divulged the specifics of what she did beyond the fact that she was Chief of Ops for the Iraq Task Force. What I know for certain is that she was undercover case officer because we, along with 50 plus other CIA employees, were in the same Career Trainee program. As a case officer she was responsible for handling spies–i.e., foreign agents who agree to commit treason by giving secret information to the United States. It is amazing to me that editor at the Post like Fred Hiatt can hold the position he does and insist on the nonsense that the exposure of a Non Official Cover officer’s identity has caused no harm to our nation’s security. Valerie handled information and sources far more sensitive than anything revealed in Wikileaks.

The heart and soul of the movie Fair Game, however, is not about the details of who said what to whom but what people in power did to punish the Wilsons. There is one central, indisputable fact–Valerie Plame was an undercover officer and people with direct ties to the office of Vice President Cheney were spreading her name around town in a clumsy effort to discredit her husband, Joe Wilson, for the simple act of telling what he knew about Bush Administration claims that Iraq was trying to buy uranium. But the movie also is about what happened in the lives of two American citizens who had loyally served their nation overseas in dangerous assignments and found themselves at the center of a White House driven smear campaign. That attack hurt Joe and Valerie economically and emotionally and almost destroyed their family. So much for the Republican commitment to “family values.” Fortunate for us Joe and Valerie survived to tell their story in an intimate and unflinching look behind their front door.

Today’s editorial in the Washington Post is a sad reminder that some of the journalists who enabled the ill-conceived war in Iraq and facilitated the smear of two American citizens are still alive and well in Washington, D.C. This is a culture of corruption within journalism. A nameless person writes in the name of the Post and uses lies and half-truths to perpetuate an attack on Joe and Valerie Wilson. And that is what journalists call courage?

The Washington Post is not happy with Fair Game for one simple reason–it documents for history the failure of the Post and others like it to do their job as journalists and the willingness of the Post to pay the role of hitman for political operatives at the White House. That’s the nerve Fair Game hits and a powerful blow it is.

  • Linda Anselmi

    Great post Larry.  And thanks for reminding me why I still want to see Fair Game.  Unfortunately, it hasn’t yet come to a theater near me. Hopefully I will have a chance to see it during the holidays.  

  • felizarte

    I wonder if the Bushes, or anyone with the Carlyle Investment group, have financial interests in the Post/ therefore GE. Msnbc, NBC or Comcast? The Carlyle group which George H. Bush founded in 1987 is a major shareholder in the bailed-out, privatized Chrysler.

    The late Mark Fineman detailed the Carlyle group in an article in the LA times in 2000.  It seeks out former heads of state like Major or England and other European leaders. I would not be surprised if Tony Blair is now a member.  Any Bush family member stands to have almost unlimited amount of money to run with influence over many media outlets.  Truly, there seems to be no hope for the non-members of the ruling class since the identity of the “rulers” are not even known.  We can only surmise from the look of things and events, that such a ruling class exists, much like the wobbling of stars and heavenly bodies lead astronomers to suspect the existence of stars and planets in the vicinity.

  • Noogan

    Glad you’re continuing to highlight this, Larry. I can’t wait to see Fair Game; unfortunately, it’s not to my town yet. This editorial stinks; WaPo’s a neocon publication, despicable. 

  • gopher

    Good job for justice in America, Larry.

    Hey Larry, with the advent of Internet News, all these Newspapers are having tough times in selling their newspapers to the  public and therefore their  incomes are dwindling.

    So cool it as all these poor journalists are trying to make a living and the moribund newspaper publishers are trying to stay afloat all the while before they go bust one day! 8-)

  • Mr Brownstone

    “Wa Post editors continue smearing the Wilsons”

    Boo-fking-hoo, Cry me a river. As if WaPo doesn’t have an agenda, just like you, and everybody else, Larry.

    I’m sure the Wilson’s are quite content with both the negative, and positive attention they have been receiving, especially in light of their current book, and movie deals.

  • ces

    Hey Mr. Brownshirt…if you had a target on your back, you’d stay in the light, too.

    And if I could cry you a river, I’d send ya up it…without a paddle.

    Goodbye, Dick!

  • Mr Brownstone

    Yawn…

    Yeah, right, ces-pool. My point stands

  • ces

    Julian, is that you?

    No wonder you’re brown…

  • Stonewall Jefferson

    Who would think the media an extension of the ruling eltie? Man. The fifth estate was always up for bids. Just find the right tone and shade the facts to fit. High ideals indeed. I can just see Joe Smoe with his cup of Java and cruller lapping up disinforation like a cat lapping cream. And blogs? You gotta read between the lines. Back in the day I always figure Novak for a putz. But he outdid my expectations. Bush & Co. were jerks for whom jerkdom came naturally, being in the blood. WaPo was always up for taking sides. Their only sin was betting on the wrong horse. To hear them.

  • socalannie

    WAPO is as disgusting now as their NY counterpart, the “Gray Hooker”.  I am so done with Wapo, NYT & our own lame ass paper, the L.A. Times.  

  • Retired

    I saw Fair Game over the Thanksgiving holiday.  The film is not in particularly broad release in the Los Angeles area,which surprised me. One must go to an Arclight or Laemmle theater–both noted LA “art house” chains–in order to see it.  For some reason, the major chains are not showing it.

    The film’s portrayal of the general nature of the clandestine operations side of the Agency, from my perspective as a retired CIA officer, was pretty much on target.  As for the accuracy of the story portrayed, well, in situations when I wasn’t there myself, I have learned to rely on the observations of colleagues who were in drawing my conclusions.  if Valerie says that the film essetially captures the essence of the story, then I will rely on her judgement.

    What I won’t rely on is the opinion of a Washington Post ediorial writer who wasn’t there and whose opinion conflicts with my own first hand experience on the realities of the way things work, indicating that said writer doesn’t know shit from Shinola.

    Statistically, as of the writing of his post, Fair Game ranks 147th on the arthouse movie scene for this year and has grossed $12.3 million worldwide, about 50% of this coming in from overseas.    

  • Mr Brownstone

    Sure, WaPo can’t be trusted anymore than the NY Times, or Newsweek. But, If anybody thinks they’re going to get the details of what really happened, from the Plames, and liberal left, Hollywood, without spin and propaganda, they are sadly mistaken. Unless you’re into fiction, don’t waste your money, especially on a movie starring a treasonous, pro-Chavez, anti-American like Sean Penn.

  • Mandelay

    I saw this editorial highlighted on the RealClearPolitics site and followed the link to read it on the WaPo site.  I was shaking my head in disbelief.  Why would a major newspaper go out of its way to print such an editorial?
    “What is driving the Post on this matter?” As Larry asks this question, ya gotta wonder.   Wouldn’t it make more sense for the WaPo to just shut the **** up already?

  • surfered

    One thing we learned from the trial of Scooter Libbey was the deceitful way the Bush Administration sold the war in Iraq.  Cheney declassified selected portions of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq so that Libbey could leak them to Judith Miller of the New York Times. But only the bad stuff, not the German government’s assessment that Curveball was crazy, not the fact that one of Saddam’s sons-in-law defected and reported that Saddam had destroyed his WMD as required by the ceasefire.  No, none of that. 

    So Judith Miller’s story includes no exculpatory evidence.  And when her story is published, there are the Bush Administration officials on the Sunday Talk shows saying “Look, it’s not just us who’s saying Saddam has WMD, it’s also the (liberal) New York Times.  They used the Times like a sock puppet to convince Americans that an unbiased third party also thought  Iraq had WMD.

    So, Valerie Plame’s career is destroyed.  Her network to prevent the spread of WMD is taken down.  5,000 American soldier’s lives are lost along with 100s of thousands of Iraqis.  2.5 million Iraqis are refugees and the world is a more dangerous place for America.  Mission Accomplished.

  • TeakWoodKite

     Nowhere in that July 2003 did Joe Wilson accuse George W. Bush of lying.

    Even in the Wilson’s recent series of interviews, they were asked by Wolfy what they thought of the people involve to wit Amb. Wilson respnded “traitor”, both Valerie and Joe stated they would let history decide if Bush was lying, personally.

    They are professional people who gave much and where betrayed by our own government.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “My point stands”.

    What is your point? What’s your agenda? What occured was and is a crime.

    Have you read Amb Wilson and Valerie Wilson’s (albiet redacted to shit) book?

    @ That is another thing while we are at it. If Valerie Wilson was a just a CIA desk jockey working 8 to 5, then why did the CIA censors take such exception at the thought of Valerie Wilson publishing a book? They hung her book up in that dark basement were the truth goes to be redatacted….

  • Tamara Cracker

    Let’s be truthful here.  Commercial success?  
    Not even close.  
    http://www.ihatethemedia.com/fair-game-gets-foul-reception-at-the-box-office

    And I saw the interview with Joe/Valerie on CNN.  He said that Richard Armitage was one of the three who exposed his wife.  Why wasn’t HE prosecuted?  Because he’s in the Democrat elite.  

  • TeakWoodKite

    Oh I get it…

    especially on a movie starring a treasonous, pro-Chavez, anti-American like Sean Penn…

    I bet you suck up on everything Karl Rove says?

  • Onofre’s arm

    Teak, you have to admit that Penn is everything that Mr. Brownstone just described. Hell, Penn himself admits it.

  • stodghie

    teak, i don’t trust anything sean penn says or does. i have admired his work in years past very much. when i look at the people we have had in the acting profession in years past and what we have now with their ugly atittude toward this country, i wonder. bad attitude you ask? why is it when the people on the gulf coast were in dire straits this past year, few if any of these bleeding hearts stood up for us. when ike devastated the gulf coast, where as jimmy carter? huh? i do appreciate both bush and clinton pitched it and helped. the long and short is to me, i believe they share the snotty views expressed by obama toward the average american. and i am sick of their bs. it is our money that made them fabulously wealthy and the celebritiy cult that makes them think that every word from their collective mouths is golden. i think not. and frankly i won’t support them for the most part. i’ll wait to get it for a far lower price if i decide to even see it then.

  • stodghie

    now i will say that i personally feel for the valerie and her husband. what happened was not fair and was in many ways dangerous to this country. i don’t read or support the washington post so their views don’t matter to me.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I do not deny it as I hold Mr Penn in a very dim light myself for his actions.

    It is a movie.

    As an American citizen has Mr. Penn broken any laws?

    I take exception to individuals who think because the Wilsons attempt to tell their story of injustice, the violations of the law were no big deal and so willing discount the magnitute of the violation.

  • Onofre’s arm

    “As an American citizen has Mr. Penn broken any laws?” 

    I would bet on it!

  • guest

    When people were in dire straits in the Gulf this year, Sean Penn apparently couldn’t make it because he was managing a 55,000 person tent camp in Haiti for earthquake victims though the relief organization he founded in coordination with the UN. Widely lauded as one of the best (if not the best) organized NGO’s in the country. They put actions into affect where others just talk.

    The same immense energy, dedication, and skill Penn offered in September 2005 by traveling to New Orleans, Louisiana, to aid Hurricane Katrina victims. Must be because he hates this country so much. I’m not a fan of his politics….but to knock the man’s conscience and relief efforts…what a bunch of idiotic tripe.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I get that Sean Penn has a view that I disagree stronly with, in the political realm. But has he violated any laws? Has he beat his wife in a drunken rage?

    Does his work in Haiti have any redemtion? Art is art.

  • Noogan

    Fuck off Brownstone. You’ve earned my undying enmity. 

  • Noogan

    Oh, he is not. This is hyperbole. Penn’s a liberal. Big f….ing deal. Even Sean Hannity and Bill O have given him credit for his work in Haiti, which he has done consistently and sincerely. What is wrong with helping people in Haiti, fercrhissakes!

    The comments about Penn “beating” his wife strike me as hypocritical. There isn’t ONE of you who would stand up for freakin’ MADONNA in this world or the next! You have no proof that Madonna was a “domestic abuse victim”; that’s her story. 

    The issue HERE isn’t Sean Penn; it’s treason–committed by Dick Cheney, George Bush, Karl Rove, David Addington and “Scooter” LIbby.

    Anything else is BULLSHIT. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Is Madonna still in love with Sean Penn, the man who beat her up with a baseball bat?

    Penn and Madonna married in 1985, and the jibe was exactly the kind of low verbal blow which Madonna endured during their toxic four-year marriage. She has said that Penn all but destroyed her with his drinking, moods and taste for pornography.
    And then there was his constant criticism and violence. Once, he tied her to a chair and beat her. Another time, he hit her with a baseball bat. He threatened to shave her head. He chased her out of their hotel room.

  • Noogan

    And in your own comment Tamara, you acknowledge that a CIA agent was “exposed.” It was done purposefully, deliberately. It was a deliberate act on the part of Cheney, Libby, Rove–every single one of them are TRAITORS. 

    That is the most important part of this story. I have to ask you:

    Do you or do you NOT think that government officials intentionally endangering the national security of this country by outting a covert CIA agent, to disguise their war crimes is an abuse of power?

    That is TREASON in my book. And, I don’t give a rat’s ass if it’s a Republican or a Democrat who does it. 

    If Obama did it, you’d be horrified. Check your hypocrisy!

  • guest

    There seem to have been one or two incidents of getting arrested for misdemeanour battery for assaulting a photographer. 

    Only he did his 300 hours of community service and three-years probation the serious way – like in Haiti. Spike Lee put it…

    “Sean Penn doesn’t live in the United States any more. He lives in Port au Prince. That’s his life now, trying to get this country on its feet. I have to commend him for that. He’s not living in a palace, he’s living in a tent. I know because I slept three nights there. It’s a tent-tent. He’s put in his dues and time to speak about Haiti.

    Penn is a co-founder of J/P HRO Haitian Relief Organization if anyone is interested.

    http://jphro.org/

  • Tricia

    Very good post. Thank you.  I wish I could say that I have seen the movie, but I will for sure.  It sounds excellent.  (Now that movies come out rather quickly and on Blu-Ray, we prefer to wait and settled in with a glass of wine on our Lay-Z boys!). 

  • Mr Brownstone

    Actually, you don’t get it at all. Not even close. I could give a fk less about Penn’s ulterior motive in Haiti. Whatever it is, it ain’t for the good of the people. I can garuntee that. Chumming up with a marxist dictator like Chavez, who abuses the rights of his people daily, tells me where Penns heart really is.

  • ces

    Well, the editorial board might be. I know at least two people who work in other departments who are far from neocons. The thing to keep in mind is that the editorial boards of papers are usually separate entities from the daily reportings on the rest of the paper/site.

    Now, the NYT or CNN, on the other hand…ugh.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Yes, there is a distinction between the opinion and the reporting side of the paper, but the EDITORIAL BOARD determines what does in the paper; that is who determined this editorial opinion belonged in the paper. 

  • My Site (click to edit)

    You’re the one who doesn’t get it. 

    It’s not about Sean Penn–an ACTOR playing the role of a REAL person. Wilson and Plame served their country for most of their adult lives, and put themselves on the line, in danger, to do it.

    CLEARLY YOU DON’T VALUE THAT SERVICE TO COUNTRY, you ASSHOLE. 

    You’d rather carp about the ACTOR than value people’s SERVICE TO COUNTRY. 

    It fucking defies BELIEF that people could be so CALLOW as to value service to country ONLY IF THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE in their political beliefs! 

    Sometimes I am so incensed at conservatives, who appear to be every bit as TOTALITARIAN AS LIBERALS, in their efforts to have only ONE political party in this country. The BEST THING about this country is that we have more than ONE political perspective, people; never forget that. Otherwise, you’re living in a totalitarian dictatorship. 

    It’s not about SEAN PENN. It’s about SERVICE TO COUNTRY, LOYALTY TO THE CONSTITUTION and ABUSE OF GOVERNMENT POWER.

    >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o >:o

  • ces

    Oh sure, I know. My opinion is that the normal politico reporting is more balanced than NYT regardless of what the editorial board does.

    But either way it’s both interesting and sad seeing these institutions scramble for niche markets now that the 24 hour screamingOpinions shows are norm. Ugh.

  • Noogan

    That rant was brought to you by Noogan, who keeps forgetting to fix the name thing. Yes, it’s over the top, and I”m leaving it, because it reflects my real annoyance that people forget that this was a clear abuse of power and a breach of the Constitution, and it was TREASON. I don’t care if the film plays in so-called “art house” theatres; I don’t give a rat’s ass WHO plays the part of Joe Wilson; I’m just glad it’s playing, because the American people should be reminded that their government officials committed TREASON by outting a serving undercover CIA agent in order to hide their war crimes. 

  • Mr Brownstone

    I didnt make it about Sean Penn.

    Penn is just one more reason, I wouldn’t waste a dime on the typical Hollywood spin and propaganda attempted to be passed off as fact.

  • Peggy Sue

    I managed to catch Fair Game last night at my local artfilm theater [strange venue].  The movie was excellent and made me angry all over again at the way the country was lied into an unnecessary war.  And for what?  A huge expense of blood, money and trust.  The Wilsons were treated in a dispicable manner as Americans and as people who had served their country with honor.  Absolutely shameful! And to add to the mayhem we compromised oveaseas assets. All to perpetrate and protect a neo-con nightmare.

    I’d like to think that this episode serves as an object lesson regarding the abuse of power.  But I know that’s not the case.  The Washington Post article proves the point.  We’ve learned very little.

    Btw, Penn and Watts turn in remarkable performances.   

  • TeakWoodKite

    No Mr. Brownstone. You spoke of everyone having agendas. You have NO response to the other side of the spectrum of treasonous hypocrisy. Do you love sucking on Rove’s junk while dismissing a treasonous act?

    Did you read any of the Wilson’s books. I see by your responses you have not.
    I call you on you wimpy existance.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Noogan, well said.

  • TeakWoodKite

    No Mr. Brownstone. You spoke of everyone having agendas. You have NO response to the other side of the spectrum of treasonous hypocrisy. Do you love sucking on Rove’s junk while dismissing a treasonous act?  
     
    Did you read any of the Wilson’s books? I see by your responses you have not.  
    I call you on your wimpy existance.

  • Mr Brownstone

    Hate to pop your little bubble, but, I can’t stand Rove, Bush, or any of the other faux conservative neocon war for profit mongers. Proves just how clueless and detached from reason you really are, TeakWoodKite.

  • guest

    lol. And where would that place be ? Stolen from the heart of the people of Venezeula that have trusted, respected and supported him ? At least Penn walked away with plane loads of drugs and humanitarian supplies as opposed to cheap oil.

    That said, without a doubt I hope Chavez loses in 2012 as the opposition has recently made stunningly impressive showings in legislative elections. Of course if he faces electoral defeat with bloodshed, the mask is off. We’ll see what Sean thinks then.

  • Mr Brownstone

    No, I didn’t read or care to read Joe’s version of events. Everybody is a damn author these days.

  • Mandelay

    Great update, Larry!  You should be editing some of these major newspapers instead of the bromo-seltzers running rags like WaPo.  Cheers!

  • Mirlo

    The movie is big here in Spain, called “caza la espia” (hunt the spy) I’ve seen it in Tarragona; Barcelona was also plastered with posters and articles in the papers, it quite took attention off the Pope’s visit (chuckle)
    It is a “fast” movie, especially the way the camera moves quickly from one person to another and thus produces a breathless touch. Having read Valerie’s book, I really liked the illustration of the happenings in the movie. I am glad this story got told in this way as well and admire the Wilsons for their strength and upright characters.

  • Doc99

    Why does Armitage get a pass here? Armitage was Novak’s source by his own admission.

  • Larry Johnson

    No one, including the Wilson’s, give him a “pass.”  What in the hell are you referring to?  Armitage came up with the info as a result of a paper drafted at the order of Scooter Libby.  Armitage had no business sharing that info with Novak.  But the impetus to spread the info about Valerie’s CIA tie came from Cheney’s shop in the White House.

  • Doc99

    I’m simply curious why Libby was convicted, yet Armitage got … what exactly?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Mirlo, have seen you post in an ion. Best wishes from the house of Kites in this holiday season to you and yours.

    Thanks for the touch of Spain. Why do you think it is well recieved in Spain?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Nie, I am very much attached. Hled by the singular string of critical thinking I will not escape the bonds of this earth. Nor the reality that money makes the world go ’round.

    Yes, I am asking what planet you are on, because it’s not referred to as a bubble, it’s called an updraft. Any Kite knows this.

    Are you Mr. Brownstone aka za petrified turd?

    “faux conservative neocon”

    ROLF! (no comment required) 

  • TeakWoodKite

    Nie, I am very much attached. Held by the singular string of critical thinking, I will not escape the bonds of this earth. Nor the reality that money makes the world go ’round.  What’s your excuse?
     
    Yes, I am asking what planet you are on, because it’s not referred to as a bubble you blockhead, it’s called an updraft. Any Kite knows this.  
     
    Are you Mr. Brownstone, aka a petrified turd?  
     
    “faux conservative neocon”  
     
    ROLF! (no comment required) I bet you can’t even say that ten times fast.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Yeah, I hope Chavez doesn’t goon squad the elections like his competion, Obama did.

  • TeakWoodKite

    According to Isikoff, as based on his sources, Armitage told Bob Woodward Plame’s identity three weeks before talking to Novak, and Armitage himself was aggressively investigated by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, but was never charged because Fitzgerald found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame’s covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward.

    Sand.

  • Larry Johnson

    Libby lied to Federal agents.  Armitage didn’t.  Very simple.  Really, are you this out of touch?

  • Mirlo

    thanks TeakWoodKite and best wishes to you as well.

    My friends and I were were tickled about all the posters in Barcelona, overpowering the unwelcome visit of the Pope, it was really something.
    My take is that people here, especially the ones that didn’t like Aznar, who went to war in Irak as well, hate Bush, his wars and his cronies, so this is welcome prove they were right about him. History will judge him…..

  • Tamara Cracker

    I’m not being a hypocrite.  I’m saying, if you go after ONE person who “exposed” Valerie, then you go after ALL of them.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2006-08-30/politics/leak.armitage_1_novak-and-other-journalists-cia-officer-valerie-plame-plame-and-wilson?_s=PM:POLITICS

    Oh, but I’m sure that CNN was lying.  
    YOUR hypocrisy, Noogan, is screaming CHENEY ROVE!
    I want the FULL story, and I never get the answer to the Democrat/ Armitage part in this.  It’s always tossed away.  Even by Joe himself. 
    This, “GET CHENEY AND ROVE” bullshit has dilluted the real story.

  • Tamara Cracker

    OH, so Armitage shared the information, and that was okay? 

  • Tamara Cracker

    Yes, we ARE this out of touch, Larry. 
    And we don’t have our heads up our asses, but we don’t obsess over this story because none of us are CIA agents.