Comments on: Undercover, Covert, and Classified (Also Hush Hush) http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Ryan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13161 Ryan Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:37:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13161 Larry, There are plenty of dumbasses out there who aren't Southerners. Here's two for you. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Maybe you can explain you essay to them.They need the help. Larry,

There are plenty of dumbasses out there who aren’t Southerners. Here’s two for you. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Maybe you can explain you essay to them.They need the help.

]]> By: EasyRider http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13160 EasyRider Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:24:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13160 Here is a 3 minute video of Toensing. See how the stupidity shines through. She demonstrates her complete and total absent of expertise in this area of covert and spies. None at all, complete fool. If anyone uses her as an expert or source of expertise then they are to fools. Here is the Tom Davis and Victoria Toensing happy shit cluster fuck. Posted by: EasyRider | Monday, 19 March 2007 at 01:43 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAOfJUwEJo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAOfJUwEJo</a> Be amazed at the stupidity of this moron. Here is a 3 minute video of Toensing. See how the stupidity shines through. She demonstrates her complete and total absent of expertise in this area of covert and spies. None at all, complete fool. If anyone uses her as an expert or source of expertise then they are to fools.

Here is the Tom Davis and Victoria Toensing happy shit cluster fuck.

Posted by: EasyRider | Monday, 19 March 2007 at 01:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvAOfJUwEJo

Be amazed at the stupidity of this moron.

]]> By: EasyRider http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13159 EasyRider Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:15:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13159 Mark Johnson, I think you only need to view the video of Waxman statements. I am certain that if Waxman said something inaccurate General Haynes would have corrected the Congressional Record and it would have made front page news. Mark Johnson,

I think you only need to view the video of Waxman statements. I am certain that if Waxman said something inaccurate General Haynes would have corrected the Congressional Record and it would have made front page news.

]]> By: Mark Johnson http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13158 Mark Johnson Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:38:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13158 "Since the CIA will only acknowledge that Valerie worked at the CIA from 2002 on this means the travel General Hayden refers to occurred in 2002 and 2003." Could you provide me with a citation to proof of this statement. I am trying to convince a wingnut that Plame was covert and this would really help. I thought I had this info somewhere else but now I can't seem to locate it. “Since the CIA will only acknowledge that Valerie worked at the CIA from 2002 on this means the travel General Hayden refers to occurred in 2002 and 2003.”

Could you provide me with a citation to proof of this statement. I am trying to convince a wingnut that Plame was covert and this would really help. I thought I had this info somewhere else but now I can’t seem to locate it.

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13157 Thinker Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:59:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13157 Time you started to care, Shaman, but I wasn't talking to you anyway. For others who might be confused, I am not convinced the Democrat "strategy" was not part of the plan. Clearly, evidence of 'niavity' [pah] has secured the Dems as complicit in everything that went on to date. In fairness to the blue promise, perhaps some campaign members would not have believed that the Republicans could be so bullishly "New World Order". If some prominent Republicans experience some real pain, only then shall I eat my words. Now I am talking to you, Shaman. Even if "you don't care", if anything is still unclear, I'll happily divulge another layer of detail. Time you started to care, Shaman, but I wasn’t talking to you anyway.

For others who might be confused, I am not convinced the Democrat “strategy” was not part of the plan. Clearly, evidence of ‘niavity’ [pah] has secured the Dems as complicit in everything that went on to date.

In fairness to the blue promise, perhaps some campaign members would not have believed that the Republicans could be so bullishly “New World Order”. If some prominent Republicans experience some real pain, only then shall I eat my words.

Now I am talking to you, Shaman. Even if “you don’t care”, if anything is still unclear, I’ll happily divulge another layer of detail.

]]> By: Chris Vosburg http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13156 Chris Vosburg Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:37:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13156 And no drinking, either, until you get results. I'm tired of apologizing to the neighbors when you show up hammered and run over their mailbox. And no drinking, either, until you get results. I’m tired of apologizing to the neighbors when you show up hammered and run over their mailbox.

]]> By: Chris Vosburg http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13155 Chris Vosburg Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:31:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13155 Here's a link to get you started, Sonny. Hours of fun. Don't come back without an answer. <a href="http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_15_20_IV.html" rel="nofollow">http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_15_20_IV.html</a> Here’s a link to get you started, Sonny. Hours of fun. Don’t come back without an answer.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_15_20_IV.html

]]> By: Chris Vosburg http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13154 Chris Vosburg Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:26:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13154 Graywolf copies from an editorial: "The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally reveal the identity of an agent whom one knows to be covert." Good for you. Now kindly quote that portion of the IIPA which states that the person authorized to receive classified information who reveals that name to a person not so authorized must know that the agent is covert. I'll be waiting. Take your time. Graywolf copies from an editorial: “The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally reveal the identity of an agent whom one knows to be covert.”

Good for you. Now kindly quote that portion of the IIPA which states that the person authorized to receive classified information who reveals that name to a person not so authorized must know that the agent is covert.

I’ll be waiting. Take your time.

]]> By: Marty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13153 Marty Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:39:56 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13153 OH my.. the infamous moron Greywolf strikes again. Clown like and silly, he makes no sense. Val...and most agents are not lawyers, but they know they are covert and top secret because all their papers are so marked, and their bosses tell them they are not allowed to give out any info about themselves so as to blow their cover. That is what their training is for. How can you be so stupid as to know that Gen. Haynes the head of the CIA has stated that she is classified...and still believe what the red-dyed Toensing said. She is a paid stooge for the RNC. She admitted she had never spoken with the CIA or with Plame to check out her theory.She is worse than useless, and so are you Moron Greywolf. OH my.. the infamous moron Greywolf strikes again. Clown like and silly, he makes no sense. Val…and most agents are not lawyers, but they know they are covert and top secret because all their papers are so marked, and their bosses tell them they are not allowed to give out any info about themselves so as to blow their cover. That is what their training is for. How can you be so stupid as to know that Gen. Haynes the head of the CIA has stated that she is classified…and still believe what the red-dyed Toensing said. She is a paid stooge for the RNC. She admitted she had never spoken with the CIA or with Plame to check out her theory.She is worse than useless, and so are you Moron Greywolf.

]]> By: Uppity Gal http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13152 Uppity Gal Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:13:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13152 wtf? We should really come up with an award for desperate parsing! "if Valerie Plame herself didn't know if she was covert according to the law?" The rest of it just follows the same non-sensical structure. The entire structure is flawed. so, since you seem to be answering your own flasely constructed question, with the predetermined incorrect answer, why are you grinding through the trouble to post? Is your point really how poorly worded and constructed the IIPA is? which is not the Espionage Act btw, and this statement is such a non-starter...do yourself a favor and skip law school; it would really, really painful. wtf? We should really come up with an award for desperate parsing!
“if Valerie Plame herself didn’t know if she was covert according to the law?” The rest of it just follows the same non-sensical structure. The entire structure is flawed.

so, since you seem to be answering your own flasely constructed question, with the predetermined incorrect answer, why are you grinding through the trouble to post?

Is your point really how poorly worded and constructed the IIPA is? which is not the Espionage Act btw, and this statement is such a non-starter…do yourself a favor and skip law school; it would really, really painful.

]]> By: greywolf http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13151 greywolf Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:34:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13151 From the WSJ of 3/20: "The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally reveal the identity of an agent whom one knows to be covert. So how can anyone be accused of knowingly revealing Valerie Plame's identity as a covert agent if Valerie Plame herself didn't know if she was covert according to the law? That pretty much settles the question, doesn't it? If Plame's status was secret even from herself, how could "leaker" Richard Armitage or "perjurer" Scooter Libby possibly have known?" From the WSJ of 3/20:
“The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally reveal the identity of an agent whom one knows to be covert. So how can anyone be accused of knowingly revealing Valerie Plame’s identity as a covert agent if Valerie Plame herself didn’t know if she was covert according to the law?

That pretty much settles the question, doesn’t it? If Plame’s status was secret even from herself, how could “leaker” Richard Armitage or “perjurer” Scooter Libby possibly have known?”

]]> By: shaman ∞ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13150 shaman ∞ Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:05:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13150 ....if you know what I mean. Posted by: Thinker No,I don't.Don't care to either. ….if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Thinker

No,I don’t.Don’t care to either.

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13149 Thinker Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:47:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13149 Larry, I have processed a wild amount of information of the last couple of day. On top of that I have decided I am going to tackle Prokofiev's 7th piano sonata. In many ways Plame is a nobody who has become a somebody. I would like a few somebodies to become nobodies. Mr M rightly talks about following the money. The key is 911. Try dialing it! We need skeletons and then America can be exorcised. At the moment the dem's are chasing the republican tail, which is largely their own fault....if you know what I mean. Larry, I have processed a wild amount of information of the last couple of day. On top of that I have decided I am going to tackle Prokofiev’s 7th piano sonata.

In many ways Plame is a nobody who has become a somebody. I would like a few somebodies to become nobodies. Mr M rightly talks about following the money. The key is 911. Try dialing it!

We need skeletons and then America can be exorcised.

At the moment the dem’s are chasing the republican tail, which is largely their own fault….if you know what I mean.

]]> By: Chris Vosburg http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13148 Chris Vosburg Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:56:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13148 Centrocitta writes: "Do you all realize what slimeballs divorced Texas women are, particularly when they have been "educated" at Texas universities and lawschools? " the hell? Sheee-it, you sound like somebody who went and married one and got behind in the alimony payments. --or something. Centrocitta writes: “Do you all realize what slimeballs divorced Texas women are, particularly when they have been “educated” at Texas universities and lawschools? ”

the hell?

Sheee-it, you sound like somebody who went and married one and got behind in the alimony payments.

–or something.

]]> By: Centrocitta http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/541/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13147 Centrocitta Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:45:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/03/17/undercover-covert-and-classified-also-hush-hush/#comment-13147 ....W spent his summers in Maine and went to private school in the North East. Andover then Yale. While growing up the guy never spnet enough time in Texas to work up a sweat.... A previous warmonger named Lyndon Baines Johnson was born and bred in Texas. THAT man, of no honor whatsoever, wore a Medal of Honor on his lapel, which he never earned. What's your excuse for him? And isn't it strange that Lyndon just happened to be VP when JFK was murdered in Dallas, of all places. Too young to remember, maybe? Well, that's your problem. ….W spent his summers in Maine and went to private school in the North East. Andover then Yale. While growing up the guy never spnet enough time in Texas to work up a sweat….

A previous warmonger named Lyndon Baines Johnson was born and bred in Texas. THAT man, of no honor whatsoever, wore a Medal of Honor on his lapel, which he never earned. What’s your excuse for him? And isn’t it strange that Lyndon just happened to be VP when JFK was murdered in Dallas, of all places. Too young to remember, maybe? Well, that’s your problem.

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