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Write-in Hillary NOT

I had thought that come election day the only sane thing I could do is write-in Hillary. Both to feel good about voting for the most qualified and as a protest vote.

But there is only one thing a write-in vote will do. It will hurt Hillary. It will hurt more than voting for McCain or not voting at all. Because a write-in vote will give the Obamacrats written proof that Hillary supporters did not come on board.

That will of course be her fault. If he loses they will blame her for the loss and point to the write-in votes that could have carried him. If he somehow wins, they’ll use the votes against her and say she can’t be trusted.

Either way, if there is a large write-in vote, Hillary Clinton will be alientated from her party and permanently hurt.

I respect her too much to be a part of that so I will not write her name on the ballot.

Cross posted from Partizane.com

  • NewHampster

    This is serious people. Please do not write-in Hillary and tell your friends not to. She knows we’re here and doesn’t need her ego stroked by the likes of us PUMAs. She does need to preserve her role in the next version of the Democratic Party.

    • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

      Agreed!

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      ALSO – In some states a write in of the same party automatically goes to the parties candidate!!

      (someone told me this, and I think it is true!)

      Gee, Obama getting Hillary votes? Now…haven’t we seen that before?

      Also, some states don’t allow write in votes.

      • Annie

        I was just about to comment about that fact. Especially this time around the Obamabot phenom will place any and all votes written in for Hillary Clinton into his column of counted votes. In some states there is no allowable slot to write in a vote. Any vote against Obama hs to be for the most likely candidate – John McCain.

        Also take a look at the down ticket dems – and decide whether or not to vote for each particular one. Taking into consideration some of them who voted for Obama even though their constituents overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton – they don’t deserve the vote.

        It has to be America over Party now.

    • barry bums a ciggie

      I love me some Hillary but will not waste my vote on writing in her name. I really want my vote to make an impact. I want to vote a loud resounding HELL NO to the DNC and Barry by voting for McCain. If there was any hesitation on my part, it was all gone when I saw those punks with the Palin is a c*** tshirt. There is NOTHING cool or hip about HATE that is directed to mothers, daughters, sisters and wives of this country. They are saying loud and clear that women are bitches and to hell with us because a bro always comes before a ho. I will remember in November!!!

      • cal

        Hear, hear barry bums a ciggie. Heh, great screen name, btw. :)

    • Touchet

      Make absolutely NO mistake. This PUMA is voting for McCain. And so is his “domestic partner”.

    • Mickey

      Same here I live in Texas that can write in her name, but I think in order to beat Obama I will vote for McCain out right!

    • nancysabet

      ARE YOU JOKING? please DON”T WRITE IN Hillary, VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

    • Felizarte

      Even before the primaries were over, I have openly stated that I will ote McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. I do not want Barack Hussein Obama for president of the U.S. And I want my vote to have impact: minus 1 from Obama and plus one for McCain which doubles the impact of my vote.

    • Rocky Mountian High

      Plus the fact, that writing in Hillary is a wasted vote as it could potentially have the same effect as what Ralph Nader did in the previous general elections which always steels votes away from the candidates. Cast your protest vote for McPalin, they’re going to end up winning anyway. They will know that many Hillary supporters have crossed over without having to write her in. I agree with NewHampster, it will hurt Hillary by writing her in, that’s not what she wanted. If she did, then why didn’t she just run as an Independent and save us all the consternation?

      • NomNomNom

        Ralph Nader was a candidate, as was Teddy Roosevelt when he ran as an independent (he got 28% of the vote); Lenora Fulani who was the first aa woman to appear on the ballot in all 50 states and won matching funds; H. Ross Perot (he got 19% of the vote at 19.7 million votes!). Tell me again how well the current 2 major parties have been doing for you, Rocky Mountain High.
        A vote for a 3rd party candidate is not a vote for BHO, it is a vote for a 3rd party candidate.. I am just as entitled to vote for a candidate whom I feel represents my interests as you are for yours. If McCain or BHO had wanted my vote, they could freaking well have done something to earn it.
        Next general election we are going to have one functioning major party: the Repubs. That’s not a good thing, in terms of checks and balances, not a good thing at all.
        If any 3rd party candidate gets 5% of the vote, that party will receive both ballot access and federal funding.
        Anyone considering writing Clinton’s name in who does not wish to vote for BHO or McCain, please consider voting 3rd party. The same goes for those who live in solidly red or blue states: you vote might serve even better for a 3rd party candidate.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhT3wYeuY8c

    • LookingForwardTo2012

      Will spread the word.

      Perhaps this is why she just announced it was doubtful she would ever run for POTUS, again.

    • Andy

      Agree NewHampster!! I was extremely tempted because I wanted to vote for whom I believe in, really; and to stick it to the DNC leadership. But just as you did; I thought it over a while ago and decided it would only hurt Hillary (not the DNC) whether Obama wins or loses.

      I believe however that if Obama wins Hillary will be severely ostracized anyway and possibly hurt politically. She will certainly not have much political capital… In fact, it’ll be the end of HRC’s political career (unless she has already negotiated something substantial with him; like
      Reid’s post or…)

    • makeji

      Hillary is busting her butt to get Obama elected. She was interviewed today on Fox and said that she was not interested in running for president again. So she’ll be responsible, in part, for getting him elected and leave us in the dust again. I wish I could get the time and money and energy that I have expended on her back.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN. WE NEED EVERY LAST PUMA!

    • LarsThorwald

      You guys are ridiculous, you know that? Fools. Fools who are going to lose.

      [Administrator: We have put up with innumerable negative comments like yours, and weathered them all. Yours above is an unconstructive remark that doesn't contribute anything substantive to the conversation at hand. Why not go to a pro-Obama blog, and have fun, or to any of the other millions of blogs out there?

      By the way, we have some good company, including Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Dr. Lynette Long, and a top attorney in Washington D.C. who is the husband of Greta Van Susteran -- all of them longtime Democrats who have put in more hours for the Democratic party than most of us here combined. But they see the problems of Obama's candidacy, and so do we.

      Had Obama put in real work in the U.S. Senate, like Jim Webb has -- instead of using it as an immediate springboard to the presidency -- or had he administered a big city, as Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter has, I'd support him in a heartbeat. In fact, I hope that Michael Nutter becomes governor of Pennsylvania someday soon (which will make him more qualified and more experienced), and then I hope that Michael Nutter can run for president -- and I'll work my heart out for him. Because he will have the requisite experience and attention devoted to his previous jobs that Mr. Obama has NOT put in.]

      • Pragmatist

        Obamobots are the real fools (anti-american fools, too)!

        • seattle slough

          No foolish is the author of this blog being concerned about written proof of Hillary Supporters not supporting Obama. Um, what do you think this blog is?

          The real reason she doesn’t want all you rabid PUMAs to write in Hillary is because then it would be obvious that there are only about 10,000 of you.

          In other words. You make not half a shit of difference. Vote for whoever you want. Don’t let some idiot No Quarter blogger tell you what to do. Vote for Frank Zappa’s corpse for all I care. http://www.zappa.com/flash/vote/index.html

          • portia9

            No, please vote for John McCain. Socialism will not work in this country, just as it did not work in the Soviet Union. We will all suffer greatly under an Obama Presidency.

            • seattle slough

              Socialism?

              Are you a tenth grader?

              There is no “yes or no” question on socialsm. It is a how much socialism is best.

              Having a publicly funded police force is socialism. Having public roads, public utilities, public libraries, public health departments, public fire departments, public pools, public parks, etc. That is socialism.

              No one argues that we should all have only private roads and private armies, and private fire departments, so the question is, how much socialism is proper.

              McCain wants the government to nationalize our banking system, so I think in technical terms, he is more of a socialist than is Obama.

              But it is a scary word, so keep using it.

              • masslib

                That’s just dumb. Every candidate want the US to nationalize the banking system. Indeed, every politician in the global economy is for nationalizing the banking system. you’d have to be absolutely stupid to think obama doesn’t support this, unless you think he’s all for a depression.

              • masslib

                “No one argues that we should all have only private roads and private armies, and private fire departments, so the question is, how much socialism is proper.”

                Um, actually they do. There have long been arguments to privatize roads, and Chicago is doing this with one highway today, VA has one, countries like Chile where Milton friedman’s Chicago boys have flourished are nearly completely reliant on private roads. Private armies, yeah, we have those, what do you think private security contractors in Iraq are for crissakes?

                • Cahil

                  Yes — and Obama wants to keep Blackwater going — or haven’t you heard? He is also for a civilian security force — that sounds a little worrisome to me.

                  • http://firefox McAnnie Carmel Baracuda

                    Cahil: Who do you think the Civilian Security Force will be?

                    There has already been mention of a plan to privatize our PD’s and FD’s.

                    One person commented to me that if Blackwater was hired to be the new private police and fire departments, we might have to pay them to come if we were in trouble. My answer to that is if they are staffed by Blackwater, you’ll be paying them not to come.

                    • MessyMarcy

                      Yikes! I had forgotten about Obama and Blackwater and had not thought about him using them for the civilian force. What a lovely country it will be if Obama gets elected. Just like Kenya or Russia or Germany in the early 1940s.

                • Rob in Chicago

                  Seattle Slough:
                  Only one candidate has been endorsed by the Socialist Party, and only one candidate was an active member of that party in exchange for their support and endorsement, and that candidate was NOT Sen. McCain. That party has also publicly sated that they would not be successful as a third party, and would have to take over the Democratic Party if they wanted to be able to advance their agenda.

                  http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/2nd-source-confirms-obama-socialist.html

              • KathyNeocon

                Obama admittedly wants to “spread the wealth around” with his socialist/communist policies, just like his ACORN buddies did when they filed lawsuits to force banks to give mortgage loans to UNQUALIFIED candidates.

              • latina

                Well, I don’t comment much but sure read all of our comments and it seems that

                “THEY’RE BACK”!!!!!

                As soon as Mc Cain goes even a little point up in polls, “Bamatrolls” Patrol comes in, like thieves in the dark, to distract us, molest us emotionally, and try to lure us to their bait.

                IGNORE THEM.

                Consult your conscience for she is your best Leader.
                Listen to your basic inner reason, and let the FACTS, not WORDS and EMPTY promises misguide you.

                You, like I want our vote to count and counter attact strongly against the opposition. In the future, maybe better roads will follow.

                We only have one loud and clear choice to stop Obama’s embellished socialism “Chigagoan thug zombie style government” from ruling:

                Mc Cain/ Palin 2008

                • http://firefox McAnnie Carmel Baracuda

                  You betcha. And wasn’t it nice when they thought they were a shoo in?

                  Please! Ignore the trolls.

                • sam bonner

                  I wonder if any of you know how ignorant you sound when you conflate ‘socialism’ with Chicago ‘thug style government’. There is a ‘limousine left’ or ‘egghead left’ element in Chicago, usually known over the years as the ‘lakefront liberals’, but they have never been part of the traditional ‘thug style’ Democratic machine of the city.

                  You people sound extremely ignorant when you keep associating Obama with the ‘machine’ in Chicago.

          • FembotsForObama

            PUMA votes are essential to this election. Which is why you idiot Obamabots can’t stay away from PUMA websites.

            After 20 years of being an active Dem Party member, I definitively decided to vote for McCain after I heard that Obama had campaigned for his brutal tribal cousin Odinga using taxpayer-financed dollars to go to Kenya. Odinga made deals with Muslims leaders who want to impose Sharia law in Kenya to get their support. Obama knew this and was providing campaign advice to Odinga as recent as Dec 2007!

            Don’t waste your vote writing in Hillary. Even if you can find out the rules for your state, the stakes are too high to trust anyone at this point.

          • cookiegramma

            I have thought about this question before, but now I ask it; If we are so insignifigant why are you even bothering?

      • K Lynne

        You know what, even if McCain loses I will know that I did my part to keep that from happening. I believe in my heart that McCain will be better for the country than Obama will be.

        I don’t understand one bit the idea that one should not vote for someone who is behind in the polls. Why would anyone vote for someone they disagree with just because he is ‘going to win anyway’? What is it with the whole bandwagon mentality?

        • WestPalm2008

          EXACTLY.

          Obama may win. But he sure as hell isn’t going to win with MY vote.

          I am proud to say that NONE of my votes ever went to Bush, despite the fact that he “won.”

          Like Bush, Obama may “win,” but I believe firmly that Obama will be the ultimate loser. Now if only we could stop the great bamboozling narcissist from comissioning his own monument and tomb in DC the moment he’s sworn in….

          • Rob in Chicago

            And if Obama wins, Bush wins again because he will lose his “Worst President Ever” title to his immediate successor.

            • lisa in va

              Oh gawd I didn’t think of that!

          • Don

            “Like Bush, Obama may “win,” but I believe firmly that Obama will be the ultimate loser.”

            Disagree. Our country will be the ultimate loser!

        • beebop

          I saw a car with a NOBAMA bumper sticker today. Someone had damaged it. There was no way that the dent could have been caused any other way. Only savages could think they are ENTITLED to attack the property of another as though ownership has no meaning. They need to be KEPT OUT OF CIVILIZED soceity, much less get access to government.

          McCain/Palin.

          PUMA

      • Judy L. NC

        Lars, STFU

        • barry bums a ciggie

          I remember Lars from Taylor Marsh…he was always sitting in the corner with that white conical hate on. Did Taylor let you out to spread stupidity around the blogs?

      • kgirl1028

        A FOOL IS A MAN WHO REFUSES TO HEED THE CONCIL OF WISDOM. SO EVEN IF MCCAIN LOOSES, IT IS YOU NOT US THAT ARE FOOLS. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU PRESONALLY RESPONSIBLE WHEN OBAMA RUNS THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND. RESPONSIBILTY IS SOMETHING YOU RITALIN GENERATON KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

      • Midlife Mama

        LarsThorwald, if we are fools, then lots of us are fools who are going to do everything we can to prevent Obama from winning by voting for McCain.

        [ADMIN: Let's not respond to the trolls. Thank you.]

      • janicen

        Lars, are you still around? Fools, huh? To my mind, a fool is somebody who works for a high-priced lobbying firm but gets relegated to trolling blogs. Why not take on managing the “Coffee Club”, Lars? Maybe that will put you on a partnership track.

      • Ani

        Amen.

        Also, I love Michael Nutter and trust he has a big future on the national stage – I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Period

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      No, they don’t. People need to vote for whomever they choose and let the chips fall where they may.

      Do not associate the PUMA movement with the GOP. It’s a false association and it is harmful to suggest it.

      I agree that voting for Clinton is not a swift idea if you care about her at all. However, if you don’t like McCain, and you don’t like Obama, there’s always one of those fringe, third candidate choices that you can use to express your dissatisfaction with both.

      Afraid of being called a racist by the crazed Obots? Vote for Cynthia McKinney.

      Proud of being a racist? Vote for Ron Paul.

      See, there ARE choices…the bitter truth is, though, that all the choices suck. And they’re pretty fucking meaningless at the end of the day.

      The good choice–CLINTON–was eviscerated by Howard Dean and a bunch of craven, sexist assholes known collectively as the DNC–may they rot in hell. I want my money back!

      So people don’t “need” to vote for McCain. If they want to do that, as a way of telling Howard Dean and all of the “Screw The Democratic Process” crowd in the Democratic Party to go fuck themselves, well, more power to them. It is one of many ways to do that. If they vote for McCain because they find him to be simply WORSE rather than the absolute WORST, well, that’s fine too. But if they choose to vote for someone else to express their dissatisfaction, that’s their choice, too.

      • missouridove

        Clinton Fan: Of course we all have a choice. To me, I am frightened about Obama’s pending regime, very frightened, and so I’m voting McCaine/Palin. I feel at least they have integrity and can relate to more than base human emotions and responses. Not sure if that applies much if any to Obama and his entourage.

        • Sue

          Imo, integrity and character are everything. I am scared to death of Obama because he has none.

        • Judy L. NC

          Me too. At least I know McCain/Palin have my best interests at heart. I do not know that from Obama.

      • PhxNickD

        Do not associate the PUMA movement with the GOP. It’s a false association and it is harmful to suggest it.

        You are correct – this PUMA is no longer a PUMA. You need to belong to the democratic party for that and I have left the party and slammed the door shut behind me.

        I agree that Hillary is no longer our choice, but that is her doing, no one else’s, we saw through the primaries what a strong women she was. I guess it was a facade. This “EX” puma has moved over to the GOP.

        • ldyoung

          Hillary will always be my choice. I supported her because she stood for every value I hold dear — Democrat or otherwise. Yes, the DNC stole the primary election from her and us — but life goes on. Hillary is still Hillary and I will always admire, love and trust her. She is doing what she believes is right so that she can continue to help this country by working in the United States Senate. If you have abandoned Hillary because Hillary has stayed true to her principles and her party, then you were never really a Hillary supporter in the first place. Nobama for me — but Hillary always.

          • Judy L. NC

            See, that’s where I’m feeling a little lost. How can she now tell us Mr. One-speech-in-2002 is the better candidate? (rhetorical)

            • Ani

              She doesn’t. She is keeping her word to the Dem Party — no more no less. And also ensuring that she keeps her place at the table in the Senate — on important committees and so forth, where she can be of more help.

              If she is made a pariah, she cannot do anyone any good.

              That is how politics works. It is ugly, but there it is.

          • PhxNickD

            Thanks for trying to correct me and making the assumption I was “never really a true Hillary supporter”. I have the debt and the lost time spent supporting her to prove I was!

            While her principals were to be admired, her courage and leadership to do the right thing at the end were lacking. She started a fight, vowed to continued it and stood strong until she really needed to fight. I could understand she was tired of it all, but then that is not someone we want as President. She let the election be stolen from her. While she still might have not been given the nomination, that convention was a sham. Another loss for women’s place in history. She should have fought for that role call. Young girls in the future should have been able to see what a great women really accomplished. That was stolen from them.

            At this point the only way women’s rights and equality in America can even start to be restored after this election is if Palin get’s to be VP. Other then that, women can start all over again, because at this point it does not seem to be a problem calling a woman the “b” or “c” words, whores, sluts or the whole litany of crap the democratic party and the media says is ok.

            Now if her principals are so strong – why is she letting the democratic party getting away with what it is doing? And in vocally supporting Obama she is perpetuating the problem.

            No I will not make the same mistake in 2012 given the chance again.

            • Rob in Chicago

              While the Democratic Party has left me, it left Hillary as well, and no matter what she does to help drag Barky’s scrawny ass across the finish line, she will always be vilified by “her party”. If Obama wins, the hijacking of the Democratic Party is finalized, and Hillary will never have another chance (she knows this, and that is wht she made the announcement that she won’t run for President in 2012, and won’t make a run for any other leadership position). As long as she maintains her Senate seat, she will be seen as a threat by “her own” party, and no matter what loyalty she exhibits, the Party will front primary challenges and do everything they can to finish her off. While I don’t believe that she could make a successful run as a third party candidate in a basically two party system, at least she could have maintained a shread of decency and integrity by simply going about her Senate business, and letting Barky sink or swim on his own. She will get nothing from “her party”, so why sacrifice her integrity ?

              • Wisewoman

                I am an AA female Hillary supporter. Initially I tried to rationalize what Hillary was doing but I now associate my self with the comments of PhxNickD & Rob in Chicago. I would like to interject one major comment area only. Hillary lost her nerves early in the process when unlike McCain she refused to challenge and fight Obama on the race card tactic he pulled in SC. She also refused to let Bill fight for his good name as well. I’m sure she thought she was doing the politically smart thing but she did not fully understand what was being done to her. From news comments Bill tried to tell her to fight that racism charge but she came out with a statement saying it was her campaign and she “makes the decision”.

                This gave Obama the opening he was searching for in that it gave the left-wing members of the party who had come out publically for her (Kennedy, John Lewis, etc) the ready made escuse to abandon her and campaign for Obama. Although she did not realize it she was then in the dogfight of her life. By not fighting the charge she did not understand that uninformed blacks would believe these charges wholeheartedly and become angry and liberals would turn against her. AS AN AA I KNEW THAT THIS WOULD BE HER BIGGEST POLITICAL BLUNDER OF THE CAMPAIGN. I wrote her advising her to reconsider and fight this smear.

                Obama and his supporters have continued to pull out the race card whenever he appeared to be falling behind or slipping. Because I was directly involved in marching with Dr. King during the civil rights struggle, I detest Obama for this tactic and will never, ever vote for him.

                • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

                  I am also a black woman and am somewhat disappointed with HRC’s one-woman GOTV effort for Obama. That being said, as to the comment about taking on the race issue early on, that was a no-win proposition as soon as Obama made playing the race card his ace-in-the-hole. Though he started playing it way back when he and Harry Reid and Dick Durbin inflated the vague “threats” they wouldn’t show anybody so they could get Secret Service protection, even though nobody found any credible threats at all, the full frontal onslaught came after Clinton won New Hampshire. Going into SC, all the Obama thugs came after both Clintons racially, and even though she had about 60% of the black vote then, nobody white could have withstood such a coordinated effort given this country’s racial history. I, too, will never forgive Obama for that.

                • MessyMarcy

                  I’m also saddened to see Hillary and Bill Clinton campaigning for Obama, especially after his unforgivable behavior toward both of them. In fact, I decided to vote for McCain shortly after she dropped out of the race and one of the main reasons was that anyone who was such a liar that he would call those two racists was not fit to be President.

                  However, as Uppity put it at her website today, Hillary Has Left the Building. I’m just not going to spend any more time or energy worrying about what Hillary is doing or why she is doing it. I truly and sincerely fear for this country if Obama is elected, so I will be doing what I can for McCain/Palin. I know I have no intention of becoming a Democrat again; whether I will vote for any candidate (including Hillary) from now on will depend on whether I think they are the most qualified one in the race.

      • gregory

        Totally agreen I’m voting Greeen party: a woman and an African-American. No sexism or racism here and I avoid Obama (not to mention Nader) and McCain. Plus I give a 3rd party a chance that says THUMBS DOWN to a 2-party system. Plus it’s ecological. GO GREENS and Cynthia McKinney!

        • WestPalm2008

          I’d vote for McKinney, but I think she’s CRAZY and actually not very bright, despite belonging to the “Green” party.

          • JozefAL

            She may be crazy, but she’s CONSISTENT. You KNOW where Cynthia stands EVERY SINGLE DAY.

        • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

          You should not vote for McKinney just to avoid being called racist – you’re implying that the rest of us PUMAs are voting for McCain out of racism (perhaps unwittingly.) Vote because you like her but this racist stuff has got to go.

          • jwrjr

            Besides, have people forgotten? The NEW definition of racism is “didn’t support Obama”. Vote for McKinney if you want to. The Oborg will denounce you as “racist” anyway.

      • latina

        And will our vote count to stop Obama’s madness??

        Oh …BHO will be happy because hell say, like the Messiah, all my lost sheep came back to me.
        Sorry but if 1 vote are needed to stop the Obama frenzy in the USA, it will be mine. Good Hillary, Ron Paul and other fews apt Candidates will not stop this madness.

        You join force (vote) with the most able to defeat the wrong. The enemy of my enemy is my next friend.

      • Newly Independent

        So people don’t “need” to vote for McCain. If they want to do that, as a way of telling Howard Dean and all of the “Screw The Democratic Process” crowd in the Democratic Party to go fuck themselves, well, more power to them. It is one of many ways to do that. If they vote for McCain because they find him to be simply WORSE rather than the absolute WORST, well, that’s fine too. But if they choose to vote for someone else to express their dissatisfaction, that’s their choice, too.

        All of the Presidential choices left this year are not as good as Hillary Clinton.

        Yet, given what we now know about him that we didn’t know months ago, Barack Obama is the most DANGEROUS choice left on the ballot.

        So many former Hillary supporters can use other methods of protest other than voting for McCain on Election Day. But what will be the (very real) possible consequence as a result?

        AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY.

        This will be a tight race – thanks to the scummy MSM, ACORN, Wall Street corporations and the rest of the scummy Obamacrats everywhere. (I’m not referring to the few decent Obama supporters left out there.) All of them are fighting desperately to steal the White House just like they stole the Democratic nomination. And if Obama gets in there, what do you think will happen to our democracy – given his lack of experience & well-documented Socialist background?

        So if the idea of voting for McCain bothers some former Hillary supporters, they immediately need to be thinking of the potential alternative happening – Obama in the White House.

    • jackie

      I would rather fight the good fight and die trying to save my country than to surrender to the likes of Barck Obama and his woman haters.

      I have had to face subtle threats against my 10 year old daughter because I don’t suport Barack Obama. I will be damned if he gets one vote from my family.

      Barack Obama is that stranger our mothers warned us about as children.

      • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

        whoa. seriously?

      • oowawa

        “Barack Obama is that stranger our mothers warned us about as children.”

        Yes Jackie, thanks for the apt metaphor. Moms warn against taking candy from strangers. Is he offering candy? Yep–but it’s better known as HOPIUM–a sweet narcotic with no nutritional value that turns you into a glassy-eyed bot. Is he a stranger? Couldn’t be any stranger. Nobody knows who he really is or where he is from, though we are starting to learn a lot about his mentors and friends. But alas, the warning may be too late. His brightly colored candy wagon is already packed with gullible schoolchildren.

    • RJ

      ITA w/ Hillary or Bust. We ABSOLUTELY MUST vote for John McCain. Anyone who stays home, writes in a name or votes third party is voting for BO.

      WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

      McCain/Palin ’08 Country First

    • Ellen D.

      Only a McCain victory will result in a Hillary run in 2012.
      If Obama wins, there’s no chance.
      Support Hillary – hold your nose and vote McCain.

      • Felizarte

        Hillary said (as reported in Yahoo news) that it is unlikely she will run again. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop as in, “I will no longer campaign . ..”

  • Ani

    Also, in a number of states, writing in Hillary means your vote automatically goes to the Democratic nominee, Obama.

    If you do not want to see Obama elected, one has to commit to voting for another candidate who is on the ballot.

    • snosandy

      I do not know if it would alienate her from the Democratic party because she is so loved by her supporters and that would prove it, but a write-in for Hillary means a win for NObama, and we don’t want that more than anything.

      I had also originally planned on writing in Hillary’s name, but I realize by voting for McCain that I am actually taking away a vote for Obama, and that makes me very happy. Also, I have liked John McCain for many years and I trust him to take care of our country in all our crisises, the ones we know about now and those that are sure to happen.

    • scorbs

      Ani’s right. In some states if you vote Hillary, they’ll count it as a vote for the Democrat who in this case is Obama. So DON’T WRITE IN HILLARY.

      • Ani

        Furthermore, A Dem voting for McCain means they have to oome up with 2 votes for your 1 — since they were counting on having you in their column.

        Something else to think about.

    • Bill

      I just sent in my absentee ballot to Connecticut, and it plainly states that you can only vote for the names on the accompanying sheet, and that write-in votes with other names will not be counted. The choice was
      Obama/B, McC/P, and the D and R reps. That’s it.

  • missouridove

    Thank you, I agree 100% that writing in Hillary’s name not only increases odds of Obama winning, but could hurt Hillary’s standing as well.

    Personally, I prefer to vote McCaine/Palin, as a vote against Obama. Any other vote or write-in or no vote does no good in this regard!

  • masslib

    But what if i don’t want to hire Obama or McCain and the only candidate i want to hire is Hillary?

    • missouridove

      Masslib:
      Two things at work here: Yes, we want Hillary as President, but it will have to be delayed another 4 years. Secondly, McCaine is the lesser of the 2 evils; actually I consider him and Sarah as honorable people and the front-runner as Evil. Anyway, that’s how I look at it.

      • PhxNickD

        I guess you are not reading the news. Madame Hillary no longer wishes to run for President in 2012. Why should she after the way she was treated?

        • masslib

          That’s not exactly what she said.

          • lisa in va

            Okay, look at it this way. The odds of McCain running for 2 terms is remote. I’m thinking he would only be a 1 term president. So Hillary can run in 2012 against either Palin (doubtful) or some other Repub. But if Obama wins, he will be going for the full 2 terms. His ego dictates nothing less. Hillary wouldn’t be able to go up against a recumbant president from her own party, so she will have to sit out until 2016…which would make her close to 70 years old…doubtful she would run at that time.

            Plus, if McCain wins, I’ve no doubt that Hillary’s status in Congress would be elevated. Pelosi, Reid, Dean and the other turncoats will quickly disappear into the background. McCain and Hillary are friends and I’ve no doubt he will work with her to get through positive legislation.

            On the other hand, if Obama wins, Hillary will be discarded faster than an old shoe.

            If you want Hillary to have a chance at the presidency, it has to be 2012 & Obama has to be out.

            I was originally going to write in Hillary, but once I did the math, its McCain for me. Anything to keep O’blahblah from becoming potus.

            • cal

              Yep, that’s exactly it and why I’ve already put my absentee ballot in the mail for McCain/Palin. And, you know, it was the first time in my life (and I’m no spring chicken) that I’ve voted for a Repub. But it was the right thing to do and I didn’t even flinch when I colored in that little oval. Not.one.single.bit.

        • Don

          At this point an “almost zero possibility” means very little. Only thing I really did not like in her comment was something she said about looking forward to working in the Senate for Barack Obama’s administration. (I know, not exactly her words is the gist of it.)

          I admire Hillary greatly and almost maxed out for her in the primary but am not sure I would support her in a 2012 run. Would have to see who else is running. Frankly have to admit that I lost some of my respect for both Bill and Hillary by their caving in to the DNC and Obama. The way things are looking right now, I probably need not worry about Hillary in 2012 because if Obama wins her thoughts of being president are IMHO over.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Delay Hillary’s hiring. Hire Mac now then Hillary in 2012. ;)

      Seriously, we have to come together on this. Mac loves America. We may not love all his policies but he is the only viable horse in town. Obama has a radical past which he refuses to acknowledge. We have no idea how he would actually govern. We do know the horrific tactics he has been using to gain power and he must be defeated.

      America needs every vote for Mac for a gazillion reasons.

    • Jackarooty

      Hold your nose and vote for McCain. I’m giving him 4 years and that’s it.

      It’s your duty as an American to vote. If you don’t vote then you will have NO right to complain.

    • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

      masslib, it doesn’t matter…Hillary is not in the running. THere is no other choice but McCain if we don’t want nobama to get in.

    • Bell’Artista

      Because what you want is unavailable.

      It;s like going to a French restaurant and insisting that you want Moo Goo Gai Pan.

      You won’t get it.

      They don’t have it.

      It’s not a current option.

      I understand your frustration but one simply must move on and deal with what is actually on our plates.

    • jackie

      Vote McCain to give her a shot in 2012

    • Newly Independent

      But what if i don’t want to hire Obama or McCain and the only candidate i want to hire is Hillary?

      McCain or Obama will be hired on November 4th – whether we like it or not.

      Obviously there are other Presidential candidates on the ballot, but sadly they’re not going to get enough votes needed to make a difference.

      And because Obama’s been getting 24/7 promotion from the MSM since January, many have been Obama-saturated. Whether or not that saturation will actually translate into the majority of Americans voting for Obama on November 4th remains to be seen. In spite of the endless Obama MSM ass-kissing during the primary Hillary won the popular vote, so that’s very encouraging.

      Simply put – John McCain is the best choice we have left.

    • J.J.

      Hi Masslib

      You have to do the same thing the rest of us do. Chose the one who is least objectionable. If you vote for neither you are either declaring that there is no difference between them or you are copping out.

  • AnninCA

    I’m over it. :)

    I’m looking forward, at last, to voting McCain.

    It is the right choice.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      I’m with you! Mac it is!

      Please enjoy a complimentary bucket of hot buttered organic popcorn way imported from my home planet. A value of 50 Quatloos! :mrgreen:

      Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion
      Proprietor, the NQ Popcorn Concession
      Since circa 2008

      • AnninCA

        *WOOHOO*…ALTHOUGH, I must say, the polls are looking pretty darn iffy today.

        Oh well, I usually don’t win on presidential elections.

        • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

          Cheer up Ann. :) And you don’t want me to repeat my naysayer lecture, do you? :mrgreen:

          • jackie

            Remember how well Hillary did and teh Polls were WRONG.

            • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

              As I have been saying ignore the polls and trolls!

        • Ani

          The polls are meaningless — haven’t you realized by now that the polls are cooked. They are onersampling Dems by 10% in many of them.

          The only poll that really counts is November 4th.

          No matter who you vote for — GO VOTE.

          All of this is an effort to demoralize voters — don’t be fooled.

          • Ellen D.

            I’m hoping the polls will keep away the fickle college kids who say “Obama’s going to win anyway, he doesn’t need my vote.”

          • Don

            I will be voting for McCain/Palin but have to admit that I am concerned about even the “overcooked” polls. Are they “overcooked” enough? I generally have no problem accepting a 2 to 4 point difference in the polls as being meaningless but when they start approaching the 10% area I begin to have my doubts.

            I reserve the right to complain, therefore, I most definitely shall vote.

        • Newly Independent

          The polls were against Hillary during the primary too.

          Yet she won the popular vote.

          Seems to me that if this race is virtually tied like the last two were, the people we should possibly be concerned about now are:

          - Obamacrats in the Electoral College voting against McCain if McCain wins the popular vote in the general election,

          - Obamacrats in the judicial system with axes to grind with the Republican party cheating for Obama, or

          - The predominately Democrat Congress who will put Obama in the White House if by some VERY STRANGE chance the election ends up in their hands.

          There are more, scary potential scenarios that I don’t care to think about right now.

    • lisa in va

      “It’s the right choice”

      I like the sound of that!

    • Scout

      Another Californian (SF Bay Area) for McCain here.

      I’m a previous Hillary voter/supporter/volunteer, a “liberal,” a war protester, a lesbian, a lifelong Democrat. Now a voter deeply satisfied to cast a vote for McCain and Palin.

      No corruption, no misogyny, no race baiting, no Obama, no way.

  • Monet

    The Democratic party already knows they chose the wrong candidate, writing in Senator Clinton’s name won’t tell them something they don’t already know. In an election where they should have a landslide win, the Obama campaign is spending obscene amounts of money in just a handful of states (not all fifty like they promised) and can’t get much more than a a few percentage points from a dead even race in those states. Sending Senator Obama back to the Senate will be more of a statement than writing in Senator Clinton’s name.

    • Ani

      Well stated, Monet.

      Spot on.

    • Newly Independent

      In an election where they should have a landslide win, the Obama campaign is spending obscene amounts of money in just a handful of states (not all fifty like they promised) and can’t get much more than a a few percentage points from a dead even race in those states.

      Exactly!

      And remember – that’s according to their polling.

      Obama outspent Hillary 3:1 in the key battleground states & virtually ALL of the MSM-generated polls favored Obama. Yet Obama LOST the vast majority of those states to Hillary – by double digits in some of those key states. And considering that Obama & the DNC committed the grand theft of the Democrat nomination, it is very safe to state that most of those Hillary supporters aren’t exactly crazy about Obama now.

  • SJ

    I cant believe that some are still with this nonsense of writing in Hillary, and Hillary will be our next President, my God people wake up.

    What we have before us is a clear choice its either you are willing to take a chance with Obama come what may, sitting and wishing that he will treat Hillary kindly even after all he has done to her, or you strongly oppose anything that Obama stands for and vote for McCain.

    Cut out this nonsense about Hillary, am thinking of my future and that of my kids, Hillary sure as hell cant help me now so I will have to vote for the people that I believe will offer me a better life, and a better future.

    The thought of an Obama presidency is scary, too many holes that no one seems to want to plug, and even if he win I will bet anything Hillary will not speak out against him so we will end up with Obama as President a majority democrat house and total chaos with spend, spend, spend, no am not taking that chance am voting McCain/Palin.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      People thinking of writing in Hillary have to realize that if Obama wins, Hillary’s presidential aspirations are DONE. GONE. LOST FOREVER.

      You have to vote McCain if you ever want to see Hillary in the White House. There is no other way.

  • Astra14

    Write in votes aren’t counted in my state. John McCain has my vote until Hillary runs in 2012. No Obama.

  • Leisa

    Hillary is not an option this year…. You have already decided who you “have” to vote for, have you not?

    I am following my gut, and I have known Obama would be terrible for our country since the primaries. He is still getting away with the same shenanigans he pulled in the primaries and his divisive game playing must be stopped. I will not vote for a person with a large case NPD to be our POTUS.

  • Donna

    Prepare for the “new” America:
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm

    The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.

    Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    “Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says.

    • SJ

      Repair out relations with the world of Islam and Muslim, I swear my gut feeling has always had me thinking that this man is a Muslim, I don’t care what anyone says and I am 100% sure that is why we cant see his birth certificate as yet.

      Americans really have to be crazy to elect this man President I will never forget what I once read where the Muslim extremists once said they will destroy America from within, then Obama came on the scene, what better way for them to get at us to have us all blindly elect a Muslim as POTUS, that will be their crowning glory and they will laugh at us daily for that one am sure.

      • Ash

        I don’t think Obama’s a muslim. He might be more sympathetic to them than he is to Israel, but he’s not a muslim. The whole Rev. Wright fiasco proved to me that he’s at least a Christian. A real Muslim would never attend a Christian church that regularly. There are plenty of ways for them to ‘destroy us from within’ that don’t include the POTUS being Muslim. I’m more inclined to believe that statement refers to them living among us waiting to attack.

        • bev

          Rev. Wright used to beolong to the Nation of Islam. Many members of the Nation of Islam attend Rev.Wrights church. Connect the dots.

          • 30yrdem-not any more

            It is scary isn’t it? Obama must be stopped.

        • tzada

          That church has a lot of Muslims attending it. I have the article and source on another computer. I think you can Google it and pull it up. Wright is an ex black Muslim. I think if Obama is not a Muslim, that he is an Arab. Not all Arabs are Muslims, but most are.

          Obama leans to far towards Arabs. He has 3 Arabic names and many many ties to them. More ties to Islam or Arab peoples than even blacks I think.

          It is my opinion that he has conned blacks into the belief that he is black. Ever noticed how his skin is getting darker? That can be done with drugs or tanning beds I am fairly certain.

          I remember one OP ED at the AOL Political Machine when they accused Hillary of having his pictures photo shopped to make him appear darker. Truth. It was Tommy Christopher, if memory serves me. Actually accused Hillary. lol
          She got the “credit” for his native garb picture too. What a bunch of whine babies.

          • TxDi

            To tzada, funny that you mention that obama keeps looking darker, I thought that I was the only one noticing that or were my eyes playing tricks on me? Thinking tho that oprah’s makeup man was doing his (obama)makeup.
            Now I know someone else has noticed.

        • Rocky Mountian High

          Obama used to be a Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim when he went to school in Indonesia for 4 years and lived with his Muslim step father. His real father was a Muslim. That’s makes him Muslim by birth according to Muslim tradition. He did become a born again Christian when joining Trinity Church. This is just like a Jew becoming a born again Christian, they still retain their “Jewishness”. What Obama is, is a Muslim sympathizer. His endorsements by the Hammas, who are now being financed by the Iranians should disturb every American, especially the fact the Obama has never rejected their endorsement, or anybody’s for that matter. Yes, great invasions happen in secret from within.

      • King Croesus

        I don’t think Obama is a Muslim but I do believe he has Muslim sympathies.
        His father, stepfather, and siblings were Muslims, how could not have sympathy for his “breathren”?
        Imagine if you were living in Muslim country but your Father, stepfather and siblings were all Christian. You would definitely have more sympathy for Christians, who would be a minority and possibly persecuted in a Muslim country. You might think that Christians were treated unfairly and could commiserate with them, even if you were not a Christian.
        No, I do not believe that Obama is Muslim but I do think that he has Muslim sympathies. How would someone with Islamic sympathies react to a crisis like 9-11? Would he hesitate to act, would he appease the heads of terrorist countries in effort to “understand” their hatred of the USA? Obama did say he would “stand with the Muslims” if the political winds shifted.
        This is not something I am willing to gamble on.

        • SJ

          Going to hang out in a christian church with radicals like Rev Wright who are close to the black Muslim organization is not getting away from your Muslim roots.

          Rev Wright was closely linked to Farakhan the entire group seem to go hand in hand, the fact is no one in the media has investigated these links and am sure if someone did they would find a very close connection with Obama to the black Muslim movement.

          Obama is a phony and he is well aware that after 9/11 if he was to announce that he was Muslim his chances in running for President were dead, so he and those that all have their motives will cover that up at all cost, no one has ever heard Obama renounce the Muslim faith just as no one can prove that he is a Christian all we have to go by is he went to church.

  • typewriterstreaming

    Vote in Hillary??? My goodness after her appearance on Fox this morning and giving PUMAS a lecture about the greatness of the One and her “disappointment” in us, hell, I’m so disgusted I probably will not vote for her next Senate run. Come on.
    There’s “supporting” Obama and then there is demanding others place Country last. Sorry to offend any Hillary supporters, I like many of you worked hard on her campaign, but there is a freakin limit.

    • AnninCA

      Well, I was a Hill gal primarily because she’s fiscally responsible as well as into solutions. She’s practical and experienced. I personally have learned in life that there is always a learning curve between ideals and skill in implementing programs. And we NEED programs. Frankly, we need that more than idealism. Plenty of BS to go around, in other words.

      So McCain was a natural fit for me. I never have investigated a Republican candidate, to be honest. Straight Dem voter here all of my life.

      So this has been interesting, to say the least.

      But I do like him. I don’t like all of his ideas. But I like enough of them, and I think he can actually get something accomplished.

      He has the experience and skill set I was looking for.

      Hillary will just have to be disappointed. I probably always fell into the older, more conservative group who supported her.

      I like some of Obama’s ideas, too. The dealbreaker for me about him is and was the lying and the irresponsibility that I saw in how he stirred up racial divisions in the country. It strikes me as highly contradictory to believe he has the country’s interests at heart after watching him trash Ferarro over some remark she made at a piddly talk in Orange County, CA that was never ever intended to be spouted nationally. The woman worked her entire life on behalf of minorities and had her reputation trashed.

      Too many acts such as that left me with a healthy skepticism about how much he really cares about people.

      Definitely, I see a split between what he says and what he does.

      That’s not honorable. That’s not someone I would ever vote into office. And I’m happy as a clam with what I’ve learned about McCain. He’s a great guy, good intentions, and he’s got a very smart mind.

      I think McCain is smarter than Obama, btw. If he loses, it’s due to the economy. Not due to his campaign. He’s run a good campaign. It’s not as “tight” as Obama’s, but it’s been very solid.

  • sas

    Saw this on uppity woman today

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqAiarOhC2U

  • tillthen

    How could the NQ’ers possibly show any consideration for Hillary Clintonn in view of all you know about Barack Obama? Do you think she doesn’t know more than we do? Of course she does, and yet she and her husband continue to stump for this abomination.

    Where does she place her country? Beneath her financial status, beneath her status in a political party that has engaged in heinous election crimes and beneath all that this country represents. She is bogus, She is counterfeit. She doesn’t believe in her policies. They are expedients to a self-centered objective.

    I was pulling for her to win the nomination, and ready to accept her as my President. The recent events since the convention have convinced me that she is as trust-worthy as Obama. As much as one has to recognize that the political process is less than perfect, this goes beyond. Never again. No Obama. No Hilary.

    …and Perry, in advance, shove it, you one-horse, broken record.

    • typewriterstreaming

      I hear you loud and clear. It’s been a painful awakening.

    • Pragmatist

      Unfortunately, I absolutely agree with you . . . .the Clinton’s are doing this country a disservice in their support of Obama (however tepid it might be). I am completely and utterly disgusted with the fact that they are aiding and abetting the virtual overthrow of the U.S. government by Obama and his goons and thugs.

      McCain/Palin 2008

      Hillary (?)

      • ldyoung

        GO AWAY, troll. We LOVE Hillary here!!!!

        NOBAMA!!!

      • 30yrdem-not any more

        You are right. The Clinton’s have plenty of money, they aren’t like us out here. It won’t hurt them if Obama gets in office. She should have fought for the voters instead of giving in to the DNC.

        McCain/Palin’08

    • Donna

      I sent Hillary a long letter via her senate site this morning, telling her that her continued support of Obama was costing her my respect.

      I pointed out that in those interviews she is doing when she claims he’s the best, she has the same wide eyed look that she did everytime she had to defend Bill for something she knew he was guilty of.

      I reminded her that doing the right thing sometimes costs a lot, but that ultimately it always helps things work out for the better.

      • ldyoung

        All of you who have turned your back on Hillary make me sick. Whatever happened to “loyalty”? Why did you believe in her in the first place? She is doing what she has to do to continue in some form or fashion to help this country. Yes, we wanted her to be President — but that’s done and over. She knows it and we should know it. So she will continue to fight for us in the Senate. It’s a shame what was done to her — but turning our backs on HER is like saying we’re okay with what happened. Remember who is responsible for this mess — the DNC, not Hillary. Jesus, people. Show some fortitude! That’s what I always admired about Hillary supporters — guts and sheer determination. That never say die attitude. So now it’s down to brass tacks and Obama might win — and you’re all jumping on Hillary? Jeez — you’re no different and no better than those who jumped all over her before you.

        • Shiloh

          I believe this is a new troll tactic here and these people are fakes and will be gone soon.

          • Donna

            I have posted here many times and I am not a troll. I have voted for McCain already, but I supported Hillary in the primary.

            So I have unity bots calling me racist and Hillary supporters calling me a troll.

            I did think Hillary had fortitude, but if he goes down as POTUS, he’ll take her with him.

            I think it’s time for her to go home and keep her mouth shut vs. screaming his praises just to save her political career.

            • Shiloh

              She will do what she chooses and bear the consequences good or bad and I respect her for that. I think the less we talk about Hillary the more we advance out cause over the next three weeks.

            • ldyoung

              So it’s all about YOU. That’s what it comes down to. So, good. You voted. Congratulations. But lay off Hillary. SHE is the one who brought us together to unite against Oblahblah by fighting her heart out all during the primary! She never promised not to be a Democrat after the fight was done. She’s out supporting the entire Democratic Party so that we can have affordable healthcare, a better economic situation, etc. If you want to be a Republican, so be it. Knock yourself out! I am not voting for Oblahblah — but I am still “true blue” to the lady who brought us to this fight in the first place. We will have to agree to disagree on this point.

          • ldyoung

            GEEZ I hope so! Or I’ll be gone…

            NOBAMA — Hillary always!!!!

          • mimi

            Well, I’m certainly no troll. I’m an AA voting for McCain.

            I don’t need Hillary to be a paragon of virtue. She’s a politician who is facing the very real reality of her plight. It’s a no-win for Hillary right now. And there’s no getting around it.

            The ball has been in our court since the end of the Primary. If we don’t know what to do with it except whine because we need someone to lead us, then pity us.

            I, for one, don’t need someone to lead me to the voting booth and pull the lever for McCain. I know my way around a voting booth on Election Day and I know exactly what I’m doing.

            For those who haven’t yet figured out that the Democratic Pary is no better than the Republican Party, then shame on you! You are giving us 4 more years of unqualified, ineffectual leadership. And probably 12 more years, minimum, of Republican rule.

            Grow up why don’t you?

            Hillary lost the nomination through cheating and inner Democratic Party politics. The deck was and still is stacked against her.

            Buy a clue! If Hillary were to be the one to unveil the dirt on 0bama, it would be the end of her political career. I don’t need Hillary to be the sacrificial lamb when I own my vote.

            What is it going to take for you weak-kneed people to realize that we are in a whole new place? Even if McCain wins, we have our work cut out for us.

            The days of wine and roses are officially over! At least for a while.

            Roll up your sleeves. We have work to do!

            • Ani

              Mimi,

              I hope you see this reply — thank you for being here.

              I always appreciate reading what you post. I think you are spot on.

              Hillary is doing what she feels she has to do.

              I am doing what I have to do. I own my own vote.

              Thanks,
              Ani

            • PhxNickD

              If Hillary were to be the one to unveil the dirt on 0bama, it would be the end of her political career

              So a political career is more important then doing what is right for this country? (this applies to any elected official). Maybe that is why I still hold a belief that what McCain says, a majority of our great Americans still believe – COUNTRY FIRST

              • mimi

                And exactly who would be left after Hillary throws her political career under the bus?

                Have at least some faith in the US Constitution.

                I do.

                I’m not going to let 0bama and his gang of thugs steamroll me.

                Maybe you should read the last line of my thread:

                “Roll up your sleeves we have work to do.”

                And that applies to no matter who wins.

            • Mannie

              Amen. Don’t start with the troll, groupthink mindset or some readers will simply leave NQ for right-wing only sites. I’m disappointed in Hillary and the DNC, who I no longer recognize. I’m not voting democrat until, if and when they start making sense again. Albeit, the RNC doesn’t give me warm fuzzies.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      I understand your points. But it doesn’t help if our shared goal is to defeat Obama as many people in spite of what you point out are very fond of Hillary. And we’ve also already discussed here why she is doing what she has been doing since suspending her campaign. Let the sleeping dogs rest?

      I bite my tongue all the time when I think about this: what is it my activism is really trying to accomplish? Soapbox fame? Being “right?” Achieving a goal?

      At this time it is the goal! Elect Mac! Sure, a pinch of soapbox bravado thrown in for spice. :mrgreen:

      • Donna

        I’m quite aware of why she is doing it. But I think that the time for party politics is over. When he goes down, she’ll go down with him for this overboard support.

        She doesn’t have to stump for him. She could quietly decline. She gave her speech, and that should have been all they asked her to do.

        • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

          Emotions run high still about her as the campaign continues. Will you feel this way in 2012 if she is running? Personally, I am cutting her some slack and if she decides to run again I would support her in spite of her current distasteful behavior. I don’t believe in dumping the baby with the bathwater.

          • ldyoung

            Amen to that, Galt!

          • Donna

            Neither do I, and at this point I would still support her. But look at those comments by Jesse Jackson. A “new” America. One that, if Obama has anything to do with, will NOT include the Clintons.

            I respect her wanting to save her political career – but only to a point. She should stand up for America and out Obama before it is to late.

            • ldyoung

              Didn’t Hillary already try that? And what did she get for it but a kick in the ass by her own damned party! Bill ended up being labeled a racist! Have you all forgotten?Wake up, people. Yes, we need to vote for MAC — and it was Hillary who showed us that we needed to do this — to do everything in our power to stop Oblahblah from winning.

              Tha fact that she has campaigned for the Democratic nominee (UGH) is a moot point.

              NOBAMA!

    • AnninCA

      She’s a staunch Democrat. Nothing wrong with that. *thinking of my own history* :)

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

        People are pissed at Hillary. People are not. People are in between. I suggest we focus on electing Mac. He needs every vote. We can get back to the urinating contests on November 5?

    • tzada

      Let me add this to your post. If any of you don’t know what Obama is and who his friends are then you need to look at this. Any of the rest of us, it is a refresher course to let us know that we are doing the right thing. A write in vote for Hillary will give Obama the presidency. Simple. There will be covert Obama people in here telling you other wise, but it’s a lie.

      Barack Obama – Still Holds Muslim Beliefs

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtirp4XdGs&feature=related
      Please watch this, all the way…..force yourself to endure. Then email this video to all your contacts, even the ones who support Obama. If they watch it with an open heart they will change their mind.

      God bless the souls lost on that awful day. May we never 9/11.

      • tzada

        never forget 9/11

  • Mr.Murder

    McCain has been listening to Americans. That must be where he decided to call Hillary [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR]. Maybe that means he’ll do his best to see the USA stay in Iraq for two hundred years instead of one hundred years?

    Certainly a majority of Americans told him we need to stay there at all costs? Even without paying for it through taxes like we’ve done every major war we have won?

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      ************CITE, you lewd, lying and stupid TROLL?************

      ****************TROLL ALERT********************

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

        Sewer spill on isle 4. Paging Admin! ;)

        • Mannie

          I hope you stay on NQ Galt…love your sense of humor. :-)

    • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

      Mr. Murder, you a a liar of the first magnitude. You had better be able to back up your words with facts, or I will start a petition to have Larry Johnson prohibit your vile, lying self to post on this site. Put up your proof that McCain ever called Hillary a name at all, much less the one that you cited. I’m serious – I will start a petition to get you banned if you cannot prove what you just said about McCain. He has always said he respects HIllary and I believe him. Your comments have always been divisive, but this time you have gone too far.

      • jwrjr

        I will sign the petition.

    • PhxNickD

      Read what you want into McCain’s statement of staying in Iraq but expect to be called on your ignorance for not being able to comprehend what responsibility we owe Iraq.

      Right or wrong, we went in and made this mess and it is our responsibility to clean it up. And that is what McCain is saying, – we get the job done correctly before we leave responsibly. If we don’t, which is Obamas plan, then the region will continue to be a cesspool for dictators and terrorists and we will wind up back there to clean up that mess.

      This is no longer about fighting a what but doing what is right.

      Seems like the more you analyze anything of Obama’s it comes down to instant gratification and not being responsible for anything.

  • Mandelay

    I agree. This morning I cast my vote for McCain-Palin with an absentee ballot. I’ve been tempted for months to write-in Hills but I strongly feel the Dems need to be taught a big lesson. They have demonstrated a remarkable consistency for sexism and media manipulation and have become the “thing” they hated. Now, with the financial systems under a host of major stressors, the Dems have come up with “plans” to continue throwing money all over the place. And, the “personal associations” cannot be discounted. As if Wright, Rezko, et al were not enough — the “Acorn Fungus” is the most disturbing of all because it will quietly take hold in every government agency if Obama is elected.

    • typewriterstreaming

      I hope they manage to locate all of the McCain Palin absentee ballots.

      • gregoryp

        Which is exactly why I vote in person on Tuesday at my local precinct. By doing that I make sure that a) my vote is counted, b) I am logged as voting as in every election and c) I will be automatically registered to vote for the upcoming year.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    The write in and third party talk was a romantic notion from the end days of the Hillary campaign.

    The reality is as PUMAs we need to send the strongest possible message to the corrupt DNC and vote for Mac. I take this a step further and am voting straight ticket GOP. That’s optional I guess.

    I think at this point most PUMAs agree with my feelings.

    • typewriterstreaming

      Agree with voting straight Republican. Never have done so in my life, but the thought of Oblowme, Pelosi and Reid running around Washington with no restrictions is horrifying. Straight down ticket Republican. Kick the Democratic party right in the ass, it is the only hope I see of us taking back the party. It’s going to be one hell of a time weeding out the scum as it is. Can you imagine if they have unfettered power?

      • Donna

        I voted for McCain and against any incumbent or democrat. So most of my other votes were for independents and libertarians.

      • gregoryp

        I’ll one up you. With a sub 20% approval rating for Congress I think we should all vote against the existing incumbent this election. Then again, I decided about 2 months ago that I was voting a straight Republican ticket. At least my Congressman and my 2 Senators are competent. I am not always thrilled with Hutchinson and Cornyn but at least they show up to work and I know what they are going to do unlike a certain Illinois Senator. My only regret is not voting for Melancon and Noriega. But you know, when your party rigs the nomination and defraud tax payers out of money we spent on the primaries.

    • ldyoung

      I agree completely. Thank you.

  • kavala007

    Writing in Hillary’s name or voting for Obama equals approval for turning what was the Democratic Party into the Radical Socialist Party. It will also be taken as an approval for misogyny and thuggery. I do not think it is a good idea to do so.

  • kcfromtx

    I would not vote for HRC even if she was on the ballot. IMO, she sold her supporters out. Knowing what barky is and how he treated her and her supporters, she is actively campaigning for him. She showed us what mattered to her and it was not the people who worked for her, donated for her and believed her. She will never again get my vote.

    • tek

      TROLL ALERT!

    • http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=PALIN Mary Cusack

      I’m not a troll. I was a hillary supporter. after her fox appearance today. I AM DONE

      • jd4hill

        Actually, I remember comments from you, Mary — supporting Hillary was not what I saw in them.

    • gregoryp

      While I agree with you that she sort of sold out her supporters by not fighting at the convention I think the writing was on the wall. She knows it was rigged a priori but she is a true believer in the liberal ideology and is fighting to have a large voice in the Senate and as a party leader. Unfortunately, if Obama wins she is going to be shot down and ostracized by her own party. The 2008 primary is going to become her groundhog day as she is going to live the nightmare over and over until she quits the Senate. She really, really needed to quit the party before the convention and form an independent party. I’d bet money she’d have won a 3 way election. At this juncture it is in her vested interest to get out and sound like she wants Obama to win and hope like hell he gets smoked in the election. Otherwise both her and her excellent ideas will be marginalized.

  • Objective analysis

    Obama will NOT win the election. I repeat. Obama will not win the election.

    Berg v. Obama et al that will be decided by the Supreme Court is the joker that will remove all this fraud any way. Obama is a Kenyan born/Indonesian adopted illegal alien who is NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE US and hence disqualified to be president.

    tHE israelis news are reporting it. welcome to the october surprise

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      We’ll see. The Precious is Teflon coated. I hope they have a blowtorch.

    • typewriterstreaming

      Do you have a link to that Israeli report? I’m always interested to watch the rest of the world report on stories here in the land of the Pravda American journalists. I am so ashamed of what has happened to my country.

    • Shiloh

      I have come to firmly believe that Obama can not prove his natural born status as well. But will the case be resolved before the election? I had once thought that even if he were inaugurated and then it was proven he was ineligible, he would just be removed from office by the courts. But I saw a statement by Phil Berg saying no, if he is inaugurated he would then have to be impeached. That is hard for me to believe, why would a man who was ineligible to be president and is therefore not a legal president have to be impeached as if he were a legal president?

  • //Yahoo ALforHill

    I understand more everyday with the fraudulent actions of ACORN how self assured Gorilla Brazilla was when she told the lady via her blackberry, “MESSAGE TO THE BASE STAY HOME.” Dean, Pelosi, Kenndy, Kerry, Brazille and the rest of the backstabbers know the only way they can win is to cheat and to cheat big. That’s how they were so sure they could carry Red States and Battleground States. Everyone needs to vote for McCain. This will be my second time to vote Republican. I voted twice against Carter. COUNTRY FIRST.

    • typewriterstreaming

      NO freakin kiddin. Good point. Brazile needs to be deported along with Dean.

      • Mannie

        Can we add Candice Brown too? My dream is a mass boycott of CNN and MSNBC, esp. if B. is chosen and the country goes to hell. I want them to pay for their lies by omission and outright lies to the public…same with the MSM.

    • tek

      I wonder if Obama’s people aren’t more worried than they are letting on about Hillary’s supporters. Otherwise, why the big headlines that Hillary has no further political aspirations. I’m really disgusted with the Democrats this time around.

      • ame

        I’m more than disgusted with them, I’m done with them. I left the party.

      • Astra14

        I just saw that article on Yahoo. If that’s true and she doesn’t run in 2012, I’m going to be heartbroken. It’s still not going to make me vote for Obama. And it’s only made me angrier at the Democratic Party.

        Next year, I’m throwing in with the Green Party. They’re looking to become stronger in my area.

        • lisa in va

          Yeah, her announcement today makes me even more mad at the DNC.

      • Ani

        I wonder if Obama’s people aren’t more worried than they are letting on about Hillary’s supporters. Otherwise, why the big headlines that Hillary has no further political aspirations.

        Brilliant observation…

        This is EXACTLY why this news story is out there — Obama knows he cannot win without all of her supporters.

        This is not going to sway anyone. This goes well beyond Hillary. This is about a man who in unqualified for the office and liar to boot.

        This is really good news. It tells me the polls ARE cooked. Otherwise they wouldn’t float this nonsense. If Obie wins, she can’t run against him anyway — no one runs against the incumbent.

        If Mac wins, of course she’ll be back in four years. Give me a break.

        • lisa in va

          Excellent point!

          I stopped believing in the polls a couple weeks ago. I think McCain is going to win big. I don’t think it will even be close.

          • J.J.

            WOW, Lisa in VA. You are smoking some excellant dope. I have already upped by dosage of anti-depressants to deal with the annointment of “The One”.

            • lisa in va

              Yeah baby, if you are ever in my area, look me up & I’ll hook you up:-)

      • Postmaster

        I would think that if Hillary truly had NO MORE political aspirations, she would not need to appease the democratic party and Obama by campaigning for him. If this were true, I expect she would be singing like a bird telling everyone to vote McCain, ya think?

    • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

      AlforHill, you have made my day. “GORILLA BRAZILLA”, the most apt descriptive name for her I have seen posted. Thank you for the laugh. I needed that – there are so few things to laugh at lately.

  • Troy

    Here is the cold hard truth people…A no vote or a 3rd party vote is as good as a vote for Obama…This election is skewed towards Obama that is going to take every single vote for McCain in order for the fraud, Obama to be defeated…IF HE WINS IT MEANS NO HILLARY IN 2012, it’s as simple as that…So if you really love Hillary and this country, as I do, then the ONLY ACCEPTABLE VOTE IN NOV. IS A VOTE FOR McCAIN….PERIOD!!!!

  • tek

    And what’s more, in most states a write in vote will go to Obama because Hillary’s a Democrat. Don’t do it. We’re voting in FL this year. I’m voting for Bill Nelson against Mel Martinez.

    • tek

      Third party vote will help Obama win.

  • ame

    Recently, I decided to vote for McCain. It was a difficult decision since I’ve never voted Republican. If it were any other Republican I probably would stay home. McCain is a moderate and he has integrity. I consider myself a moderate; I’m definitely not left leaning. The Democratic party is now too far to the left for me.

    • AnninCA

      Ditto here, ame….

      I decided to knock off straight ticket voting. I’m now looking for moderate candidates only.

      Feinstein….IN
      Boxer……..OUT.

      And so forth.

  • Jay

    Voting for McCain
    NY Former Hillary supporter

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    I have a very serious problem with this article. It reminds me of the primaries and Dem leaders telling us what to do. They will blame Senator Clinton regardless. They have lied, cheated and ran one of the most vilest elections based on there bad judgement. They work for us. They need our vote, we do nitot need them. They are not playing by the rules and will do anything to get ahead even voter fraud. When they are unable to do there job they need to step down, and if they feel like they cant, then we help them.

    This has always been about having the right to “choose” and not being told what to do. We dont have the right to dictate how someone should vote because then it makes us no better than the Obama campaign volunteers picking up the homeless and giving them food to vote for Obama.

    Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, and after Mccains speech today, it was very motivational. However if its going to turn into a “Hillary” bashing zone on NQR today I think I will come back on here later on.

    Senator Clinton carried the entire Democratic party on her back during the primaries. She fought for the heart and soul of a party that didnt even fight for her when the msm and everyone else piled on. She went into debt and used her own money, campaigned on the back of trucks and went the extra mile knowing good and damn well they were never going to allow the nomination. She fought for the people, the dems only thought about lining there pockets. You may not agree with her on the issues or policies but I know she loves this country and the Democratic party, despite how she may personally feel.

    She has always said that if she did not win she would campaign hard for Senator Obama. She told her supporters the day she suspended her campaign that she will continue to fight for the issues she outlined the entire time of the primaries. She is keeping her promise.

    You think Obama cares about health care? She needs to be right where she is right now. Because if she wasnt, and Obama wins, god help us all. She has earned my support AND loyalty and I respect the fact she is doing exactly what she said she would despite how bad is angers me she stumps for Obama. I understand that McCain needs our vote to save our country from a Obama presidency. But trashing Clinton is not the way to go.

    • AnninCA

      Good post…..thanks. I agree.

      She’s just doing her job.

    • Astra14

      AMEN!

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      I can’t dictate to anyone what to do, but I can PLEAD with them and try to convince them that voting for McCain is the only way Hillary will have any chance of being president, ever.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      absolutely agree Patsy, thanks :0)

    • ldyoung

      THANK YOU!!! I was beginning to think I was alone out here! Since when is this a “trash Hillary” site? Did I miss something recently?

    • missouridove

      Soldier,
      Thank you, yes, Hillary keeps her promises. I don’t think she was saying she would not run in 2012, but likely she does not want to make an issue of it at this time. That’s my take.
      I’m voting McCain/Palin this time. I pray, NoBama, please!

    • Mannie

      I’ve loved your work here S4H but I think people should be free to express their disappointment with Hillary if so inclined. Since she is not the main issue, it will be short lived, but silencing dissent is what the O-bots do and one reason the fury towards O has escalated. I hope NQ doesn’t follow suit–this place is my sanity with regards to politics and common sense. Albeit, no one needs to be nasty.

    • NewHampster

      Thank you so much. I agree completely and bashing Hill does nobody any good.

      My goal with this post was because a few people had told me they planned to write her in. It is critical that people understand what they are doing.

    • bemused

      I agree. Who am I to second-guess her actions? I’ll never count her out until she’s dead, and while it repulses me to hear her say his name, even, it’s her conscience. I’d still vote for her.

  • typewriterstreaming

    “If you have abandoned Hillary because Hillary has stayed true to her principles and her party, then you were never really a Hillary supporter in the first place. Nobama for me — but Hillary always.”

    It is with great shock that I have listened to Hillary over the past few months and very sadly come to realize Hillary gave up the principles she espoused to have. Stunned actually. I am stunned, but I am not sheep and do not appreciate her demanding we be sheep.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      Hillary has never demanded anything of me except that I be true to myself

      and I expet nothing less of her than to support the party in order to be in place for us in the future

      or she could have said FXCK YOU ALL and laughed maniacally and gotten on a motorcycle and rode out of dodge with Bill, but then she wouldnt be here for us ever again and I wouild sort of miss that, my family NEEDING her in NY…..

      but thts just me

      I know damn well she has feet of clay and I ALSO KNOW that HE KNOWS the same crxp MAC knows , the crxp that will make sure he is NEVER EVER POTUS

      so get back to us with the indignation AFTER Nov 4th please everynody

      until then lets stay FOCUSED ON THE GOAL

      ELECT MAC PALIN 08

      then everyone do their groovy thing!!

      peace!!

      and

      Woot!!

      and

      Booyahh!!

    • ldyoung

      Hillary has not given up her principles. You’ve just given up on yours. She has done nothing and said nothing that has surprised me or gone against who I always knew she was as a professional woman and politician. She is (in her own words) “true blue” — a Democrat now and always. You shouldn’t be at all suprised.

  • jackie

    HSI is the Company which evaluated the “Health Care Reform Proposals” of both John McCain and Barack Obama

    http://hsinetwork.com/

    You can see all the information at the listed website.

    John McCain’s Health Reform Proposal
    Independent Assessment by HSI Network LLC
    Summary Snapshot
    John McCain proposes boldly to fix the United States’ broken health insurance system.
    He will replace the current income tax exemption for health insurance premiums paid by
    employers with a refundable tax credit available to all every U.S. citizen under age 65 to
    purchase health insurance either through their jobs or as individuals. He will also provide
    additional assistance for high-risk people to purchase a Guaranteed Access (GAP) plan.
    If these proposals were implemented immediately and in total, there would be a
    reduction in the uninsured by 27.5 million covered lives (from 47 million) at an
    annual cost of $287 billion.

    Barack Obama Health Reform Proposal
    Assessment by HSI Network LLC
    Summary Snapshot
    Barack Obama’s proposal includes an array of policy components acting in combination.
    If implemented immediately and in total, there would be a reduction in the
    uninsured by 25.5 million covered lives (from 47 million) at an annual cost
    exceeding $452 billion dollars. The Obama proposal has a range of initiatives intended
    to increase health insurance coverage and make it more affordable. In general, the
    proposal is a potpourri of prior initiatives that lacks an integrated design. It is primarily a
    list of ‘fixes’ with little discussion of contradictions among specific plan elements (e.g.,
    states’ rights for health reform vs. mandatory child coverage) and raises questions
    regarding the operational components of the plan if passed as legislation. The one
    signature component of the plan is mandated coverage for all children. This alone would
    yield a reduction in the uninsured population of approximately 12.6 million people – with
    a cost of approximately $211 billion.

    This folks is based on what the campaigns have provided to the public to make decisions on.

    Read the full reports.

    Lets talk about caring for the nation Folks USA FIRST

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Barack Obama’s proposal

      Stop right there. Does anyone honestly believe Obama would do anything as president that he proposes now?

      Its a pointless task comparing plans. Based on track record Mac is probably sincere. Obama? Hell no.

      • hadenough

        Good point.

        Realizing neither plan would be enacted in full, and forgetting obama’s plan changes with the wind, according to the report mccain covers more people at about half the cost.

      • latina

        Galt master

        Exactly my point too
        THANK YOU!!!

    • jbjd

      Thank you. This provides good talking points, except for the fact, after accessing their web site, I was unable to see the names of the principals of this outfit. (But I have found that, generally speaking, Obama supporters seldom delve any deeper than surface when it comes to sources or analysis.)

      • latina

        further on jbjed thoughts;

        Have you ever notice when Obama do or say something that causes a stir, their clarifications are more confusing than the original?

        This is what they do when they can’t prove a point or perform promise, they will clarify the original to the absurdity to prove a self serving point. They can’t ever accept they are wrong.

  • Shiloh

    I do not believe Obama will win but for argument’s sake, what happens if he wins and after he is inaugurated the Berg case is finally settled and he is ruled ineligible? I have heard that he is just automatically out because he was not legally president, and I have also heard that he would have to be impeached, which this congress probably wouldn’t do.

    Anyone have any legal resources to ask?

    • Arabella Trefoil

      If Obama is impeached? We’ll have Mr. Drinky Winky as presidident.

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        good Gawd Pelosi would be third in line, GAAAK!!!

        yeah one more reason to vote MAC PALIN!

      • typewriterstreaming

        Yeah and if Dinky Winky can’t serve we get Nancy Pelosi. There’s a cup of cheer for all of us.

        • Arabella Trefoil

          I pray for Drinky Winky every day.

    • lisa in va

      Could he be arrested and charged with a federal crime? I mean, if he intentionally pursued the presidency, full well knowing that he was violating our constitution, is there a law against that?

  • http://Brendon William L. Donlon

    PREDICTION: HILLARY IN 2012

    The Election of Carter in 76 usherd in Reagan in 80.

    The election of Obama will usher in Hillary in 2012.

    Under Obama:

    The stock market will bottom at 5,200

    Unemployment will rise to 40 – 50% ( 1933, top Hoover/FDR unemployment was 25%)

    Inflation rate will average 27% a year for four years.

    Many Schools, hospitals and all Senior Citizen centers will close.

    Food Milk and Gas prices will triple each year.

    People will stand sholder to sholder with shotguns to fight off tax forclosures.

    Riots will break out in every major city and will turn into race wars with armed “Protected Turf”.

    Brigades of the U.S. Military are already being trained up for when they will be called on to restore and maintain order.

    The Border WILL be locked down and Immigrants forced to leave because we will not be able to feed or protect them.

    Rual areas will return to Local Enforcement of civil order.

    Public executions will return to set examples of “Tough Justice”.

    Obama will blame Bush for everything, which will wear thin by Mid Term in 2010 when the Dems. will loose seats in both House and Senate.

    The Media will “discover” that Obama and ACORN stole the Election and Nomination.

    By 2012, Hillary will be THE person with the experience, the trust, and the IQ to save the Country.

    It will be a hard four years and the Main Stream Media, because they refused to vet Obma in the Primaries, is responsible.

    Untill then,

    Good Luck Everybody,

    • Shiloh

      One problem, Obama is NOT going to win. But it will still be Hillary in 2012 because McCain will only choose to serve one term.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        I agree with you, Shiloh.

        • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

          a third here!
          okay motion carries

          it is decided :0)

          MAC/PALIN 08
          Hillary 12

          and a second round of porridge for all!!!

    • oowawa

      This appears to be a chapter from the Book of the Prophet Donlon, but it would look better if you numbered your verses and threw in a few multi-headed beasts for dramatic effect. Thanks for the prognostications.

  • Paul3triple

    If he wins, not only is there no Hillary. Obama’s campaign and supporters have vowed on the record to wipe away all of her supporters that were elected officials.
    They want a purge of the party and replace the moderate blue dawg’s with commie socialists with a radical agenda.
    The comments by Jessie Jackson should worry Jews. It is a huge pattern of Obama. He is on the side of Isreal’s enemy’s.
    It is clear cut. The only reason he gets so many of their votes is because of Democrats historically.
    Obama is no friend of Isreal. Isreal knows this.
    Jewish Americans however, not so much.

    Obama is going to change our government into something that will be completely different than what we have known since the founding of this country.
    SPread the wealth around? That says it all. Obama is going to use the poor to push an agenda similar to Hugo Chavez or Castro.
    Poeple think that is crazy. It is not.
    Look who Obama first had as a mentor from 12 until his 20′s. A communist. Look at his pasture. a radical Marxist. Ayers, a maoist who has spent his life trying to overthrow our government. And i could go on.
    Poeple’s suspicions are true and you should follow your mind.
    Vote Mccain. If you want Obama to lose it makes no sense to go another route.
    For the person said they were voting green pary because it proves she is not sexist or racist.
    Prove to who? Do you think THEY care?
    That is honestly a crazy reason. You should know who and what you are in your heart. Because some fuckwad plays class and social warfare should not make anyone feel as if they have to prove anything.
    This is the future of our country.

    • tzada

      I was glad to see the Jessie Jackson comments on the Drudge Report today.

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    Matter of fact, after reading the comments on this thread about Senator Clinton, if this is the new theme after the “hillary political aspirations are over” article, I dont think I want to be on NQR today. This shit sounds just like the obamapukes.

    • Shiloh

      I think this is a new troll tactic here.

      • KathyNeocon

        I agree. It’s a slight of hand move to pull votes from McCain. This is more dirty Obot tactics like ACORN registering dead people to vote. Don’t fall for it.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      People are upset at her and you are upset at that? I actually understand.

      Also, there will be instigator trolls jumping in to stir the pot.

      Whatever is going on will blow over quickly.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      Hey Patsy whats shakin’??!!

      I am ALWAYS for Hillary and Big Dawg :0)

      I will wait for her and proudly vote for MAC PALIN and people who put COUNTRY FIRST until I get a chance to support Hill or Big Dawg again

      and the ONLY downticket dems I support are via HILLPAC, I am letting Hill give the donations whrre she will…she knows who is trustworthy, I sure as hell dont anymore, LOL

      MAC/PALIN 08
      Hillary 12

      W00T!!

    • typewriterstreaming

      Look, it’s just hard to watch Hillary promote Obama. It’s hard to learn all the miserabl facts and then feel happy or satisfyed hearing her say she’s “disappointed” with supporters who refuse to back him. I think of what a great time this would be if she were our candidate. We’ll have to wait for another time for that. And in the meantime we can’t rip one another apart. No bot zone, no tearing each other apart zone. Peace.

    • Astra14

      Soldier, that article upset me, too, but if Hillary does run in 2012 she’s got my vote. No question or doubts.

      I just wonder if that article is up becomes the Obamacrats think that if the Hillary supporters believe she’s not going to run again they can somehow get her supporters to come to Obama’s side? I wouldn’t put it passed them, but I’m still not voting for him.

    • tzada

      If you go away then the trolls will have achieved there goal. They are like germs they keep evolving with new methods to make a problem. I think this whole thing started with someone doing just that.

      Some people do feel “deserted” by Hillary. Myself I think that there was extreme pressure from some quarter. Something went awry. But done is done, all Hillary people need is to keep the faith until 2012 and try again. Now lets open a can of wup ass and defeat Obama.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    no write in here

    STRAIGHT VOTE FOR MAC/PALIN

    and against my IDIOT SDs as well

    W00T!!!

    LOVE MACS NEW ECON PENSION PROTECTION PLAN, LOVE IT LOVE IT!!

  • http://none Jessie Britton

    No way anyone, should write in Hillary’s name and or vote third party. To hand the Presidency to Obama would be an adbomination. Forget Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Rezko, Acorn, just think about this person as the Commander and Chief, just read what Jessie Jackson had to say about foreign policy. It will turn your blood cold. I know we have made some mistakes over the years, but a vote for Obama will make us a third world nation over time. My husband is a world war II veteran, who enlished prior to his 17th birthday and both of us love this country and we are proud to be an American. You must vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin. They might not be perfect, but we know they love their country and they are Americans and that is not a knock on Obama, because I do not care where he was born.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    HEY NH, thanks for bringing this over. I tried commenting on yours, but my ‘puter froze. odd.

    I agree. Besides, writing in will only give a great chance to a president Obama and if you don’t want that, DON’T DO THAT!

  • vjhinFla.

    Just what is everyone’s take on Hillary’s announcement that it is very doubtful that she will not run in 2012 – she said her chances of running for President again are about as much as her being the Senate Majortiy Leader. I would love to think that to herself she added “as long as the current DNC leadership is intact”. But I am starting to get very tired of her stumping for Obama too. Surely she sees what is going on and has seen it for quite some time. I myself would like to see her speak out for what is right, no matter what. I really don’t think it would end her career by doing so. I would think she would lose a lot of credibility by NOT saying anything until Obama loses, and we start voting out all the current DNC big wigs. (That is in my dreams anyway!)

    Don’t get me wrong… I am so devoted to Hillary and believe in her so much, but the wind has been knocked right out of my sails. And no I didn’t see her on Fox, so didn’t hear that statement about her being so disappointed in the PUMAs. Now I feel as if someone punched me right in the solar plexus and I cannot catch my breath.

    Anyone else have any takes on what is going down with Hillary?

    • AnninCA

      I presume she’s being realistic. Obama is ahead. If he wins, he’ll get 8 years.

      Her shot at the presidency is over in that case.

      • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

        There’s no way Obama will get 8 years if he is “elected” unless he steals the next election. He will be a disaster and then it will be Palin in 2012.

    • ldyoung

      Don’t believe everything you read here. Show us the You Tube video of Hillary saying this.

      • typewriterstreaming

        It’s an interview she did this morning with Gretchen from Fox and Friends. I believe the video is up on their site. I’m sorry, it’s hurtful. I would say, don’t watch it. It’s just not necessary. Really. We should pay attention to helping McCain win, or Obama lose. Whatever people here are comfortable with.

    • Annie

      I don’t really know what is going on currently with Hillary but she did do one thing and that was bring all of our attention to the primaries and especially the caucuses and how they were abused by Obama… She did put in an official complaint about the caucuses. There is a copy of the legal letter sent by her campaign over at the Forum…probably initiated here. If someone has the link to it that would be good to have????

      Bill Clinton, during the primaries, said that there are two patriots in the race for the Presidency and those were Hillary Clinton and John McCain. That is a good thing to remember when deciding why a vote for McCain is a vote ultimately for the 2012 election with Hillary Clinton as President.

      McCain/Palin 2008
      Clinton – 2012

  • AnninCA

    Personally, the way I vote if FOR and not AGAINST. Always have.

    If I honestly couldn’t find a reason to vote FOR, then I skipped that category.

    I’m voting FOR McCain.

    I think he’s got integrity, experience, good ideas, and a sense of how to handle the job in this crazy era we’re entering.

    So I’m pleased to vote for him.

    I like Palin, too. She’s a kick to me.

  • Talk2ThePaw

    I have my fingers crossed that Obambi is NOT elected. If he is at least I have moved from the socialist capital of the San Francisco Bay Area. My home is in escrow and should close next week (fingers crossed). Though I admit that I just about gave it away as I wanted to make certain it was sold before the election. I have moved to a town in the middle of the desert that has a military base with a population of 35k. We are an hour from any other real town and live on 2 1/2 acres. So should be in good shape to survive an Obambi takeover. I do worry for those in areas that are under the fingers of the Obambi Brown Shirts.

  • Paul3triple

    look Hillary said today that she would not run.
    That is code for get out the damn vote for McCain/Palin.

    You guys cannot be mad because poeple do not agree with YOU on Hillary and how she has handled Obama since the end of the primary.
    I personally think she should have contested the primary and NEVER suspended.
    She did though and it is disapointing. I donated nearly 200 dollars to her and bought a humongous package of gear that was over $200 dollars.
    I did this thinking she would fight until the end as she stated.

    I will vote for her again if she runs for sure. I love her.
    But, poeple have every right to be upset at her. Especially, when alot of her supporters fell it was stolen and obama is a disaster for USA.
    Not everyone can just dismiss what she does as a secret plan to run in the future. I think alot of poeple feel like if it were them, they would have fought until the convention just like Kennedy did and she had every right to because it was the closest controversial elections ever.

    Do not be mad just because someone does not follow your opinion of Hillary lock step.

  • Mr.Murder

    McCain/Palin

    All your wombs are belong to ours!

    • ACT

      I am sick of the damn democrats using my overies and my womb as a stick to beat me into submission.

      At this point I say to you fine they can have my womb because they let me keep my brain and my bank account. Those are where my real power lies.

      • Mr.Murder

        And the GOP liberated it how? They’ve waged wars that were promised on cheap gas and oil, what liars!

        They left unfunded mandates that states and municipalities had to increase taxes to uphold.

        They liberated banks with deregulation and taxpayer bailouts.

        Your brain is fine, as long as you don’t want to choose for yourself or marry some persons.

  • braininahat

    Why hide from reality?

    A vote that isn’t cast for McCain helps Obama. It’s that simple. Sure, most people would love to vote for the candidate they would be best for this country, but the truth is that there are only one of two choices here. Obama is leading and so a vote that doessn’t go to McCain helps him seal the deal.

    Lament the unfairness of it all, dream about what the ideal circumstances would be, pontificate about the spirit of voting, but face reality when you cast your vote.

    PUMAs are associated with the GOP, not by a long shot, but you’re voting in the next president of the United States — it’s not a popularity contest, as some think.

  • http://Brendon William L. Donlon

    “Believers” attack “failed gods” harder than Non believers, when they prove to be false gods.

    The Main Stream Media will lead the attack on Obama when things go south in the next four years.

    • mimi

      I no longer care about the msm or take them seriously. They can go fuck themselves.

      They will NEVER aregain my trust or respect, no matter how hard they go after 0bama.

      It’s a case of too little too late!

      • lisa in va

        Yep. I want accountability and resignations. Nothing less.

  • braininahat

    Why hide from reality?

    A vote that isn’t cast for McCain helps Obama. It’s that simple. Sure, most people would love to vote for the candidate they would be best for this country, but the truth is that there are only one of two choices here. Obama is leading and so a vote that doessn’t go to McCain helps him seal the deal.

    Lament the unfairness of it all, dream about what the ideal circumstances would be, pontificate about the spirit of voting, but face reality when you cast your vote.

    PUMAs are not associated with the GOP, not by a long shot, but you’re voting in the next president of the United States — it’s not a popularity contest, as some think.

  • ugo

    Write-in Hillary NOT

    First of all Sen. Hillary Clinton is not on the ticket.

    For what a reason, vote for whomever you want.

    The question is who is qualified to the job as President of USA now?

    Please make your decision on what you want for and in a President.

    we do not have to dish out insult because we disagree with each other.

    We are blessed that we can say what we think in this country. There are many country that you cannot even say anything bad about your president without someone knocking on you door and taking you away.

    so please think before vote.

  • oppo

    in my heart i know she WANTS us to vote McCain.

    • http://noquarters foxyladi14

      and i would bet my bippy that she and big dawg and chelsea vote for mac!!!

  • Paul3triple

    Mr.M

    How horrible of McCain/Palin to support a culture of life where family’s have the chance to have their kids and allow children to succeed.
    Obama supports infanticide and wants teens to be able to have abortion without telling their parents.

    I know poeple on this site have strong opinions on both ends of this issue.
    However, to say dumbshit like M&M just because they want personal responsibility and children to thrive in a culture of life.
    Because someone is Pro-Life does not mean they do support choice. And someone for choice is not anti-life.
    Wanting less abortions is a pretty reasonable goal. Especially when Sarah Palin has said she wants both sides working together to achieve the common goal of Safe.Legal.Rare.

    Obama eliminated that from the platform. He supports infanticide look at his record.

    • Mr.Murder

      Parody troll of the election cycle. ^

  • notrees

    Anyway anyone looks at it, Hillary has lost some of her supporters and she can never get them back. Hillary is finished as for as the presidency goes.

  • ce415

    It sound like a whole lot of UNDECIDED voters here. While decided to vote against the Zero what choices are left.
    The poster ex-POW for PTSD,
    a challenged Green,
    toe former guy who in 2000 could not tell between a future Peace Prize winner and a future war criminal.

    not good choices. We have really lost our way.

  • Colleen

    I’m npot mad a Hillary–disappointed is more like it. I will be voting McCain/Palin here in Indiana. The Dems have left me. I didn’t leave them.

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

    more voter fraud:

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm

    Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Mac and the GOP are on top of this. The trolls are fanning the flames of this (they think) for an advantage. If we get out the vote we win. We can overcome any cheating that sneaks by.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    I go the skinny on Hillary stating very little chance she will run in 2012: She has to say that.

    Don’t let the trolls stoke this nothing as a wedge to divide up us PUMAs.

    Got it?

    • typewriterstreaming

      You’re right. The more we talk about that the less we are sharing info about the crapster Obama. We should stay focus. Fudge to everything else. Above all we should treat one another we a great deal of respect. We’ve all been through enough crap.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Got it.

      (If the polls look so good for Obama, why are the trolls still here? Just saying.)

    • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

      I know. united we stand, divided we fall…got it. I know the bots love to gloat. but then again it will be my turn in three weeks so I can settle for that.

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

        I have a huge celebration planned for Mac and our triumph over evil. I’m very optimistic if we keep our nose to the grindstone!

    • Astra14

      Thank you, Galt!

      2012 is 4 years away so there is still HOPE! I’m not surrendering HOPE that Hillary will run then once Obama and company are kicked to the curb!

      This year’s HOPE is John McCain.

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    Senator Clinton would of NEVER said anything like that I just know the Dems and Obama’s campaign are trying to screw over her political career. The only “house” Obama and Michelle are going to see after November is there own.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      If you are referring to her saying very little chance she will run in 2012 she has to say that now as a party loyalist and it does not mean anything beyond that. She can still run in 2012. And probably will if Mac wins.

      • K Lynne

        For Hillary to state she may run in 2012 is in effect saying she a) expects Obama to lose OR b) plans to run against an incumbent president of the same party.

        IOW, she CAN’T publicly acknowledge either possibility. She pretty much MUST say that she won’t run in 2012.

  • Paul3triple

    S4H.
    Hillary said it on Fox this morning.
    I do not believe she will not run again. She said it though.

    • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

      hillary has to say that or Obama will blame her for his not being able to steal enough votes to win the election…

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

    Jesse Jackson from the NY Post:

    The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.

    Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm

    holy crap…. so has Baracktrack been lying to voters again then?

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Jesse Jackson is telling the truth.

      And here I thought that slip about cutting The Precious’s nuts off was staged so The Precious could distance himself from Jackson.

      It still could have been a set-up.

      And maybe Jesse announcing this is so they hope it won’t be believed, assuming he is working as a stealth surrogate?

      Tin-foil hat is off now. What do you think?

      • Arabella Trefoil

        Oh, brother. I really don’t know what to say about this one. Wasn’t Jackson the one who called NYC “Hymietown”?

        • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

          I’m just as confused as you are. But what he is saying about Obama rings true. Obama has a radical past and it makes sense US/Israeli policy would fly south.

          • Arabella Trefoil

            Jesse Jackson is gonna be in trouble with Obama.

      • lisa in va

        Mr Jackson is a seasoned politician. He has been around the block one or two times. The only purpose for this type of speech is to scare the crap out of Jewish people. Jewish people who tend to vote Dem. Ya think they will after this remark? Ahhh, NO! lol! This was a stab in O’blahblahs backside, make no doubt.

        Jacksons remarks a few months back were how he really felt about Obama, “who the hell does this guy think he is”. AA’s recognize a con artist when they see one.

        Why would Jackson do this? Because if O’blahblah wins, “out with the old & in with the new”. I’ve felt for years and years, that the leadership in of AA’s was holding them down, keeping them from achieving the American Dream…by making them dependent on the system, government and Dems. This included Jackson, Sharpton and the like.

        The difference between those leaders and Obama, is they want to keep AA’s enslaved and Oblahblah wants all americans enslaved to the government.

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      Do you think he is exposing Obama for what he is? Anti-Israel? I read the piece a bit ago and I can’t figure why he would say this unless he wants to stop Obama.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        I think Jesse Jackson has trouble keeping his mouth shut, especially when it comes to Jewish voters. He called New York City “Hymietown” once.

        He ran his yap again in that article, this time about international policy. I don’t think he was speaking on Obama’s instructions.

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

        Who the fark knows. The good news is he has hurt The Precious by telling the truth. Gift horse.

        • Arabella Trefoil

          The rear part of one, anyway.

      • Donna

        This is what I’m thinking.

        Remember that old song “Smiling Faces”? I think Jesse is trying to pull pro-Israeli support from Obama.

        Just my opinion, of course.

  • Diana L. C.

    I had already decided to vote McCain in my state because I just want so badly fo Obama to bedefeated.

    I really wish, however, that I could vote Hillary and include my resume–a masters with a 4.0 average and several hours toward a Ph D and many years of professional experience.

    Here in Denver just yesteday, a well-known columnist from one of our newspapers (We have two in Denver.) wrote a piece about some women who called her because they were being interviewed by another organization about their decision NOT to vote for Obama. This female columnist was just flabbergasted that they were EDUCATED women. Seems she had bought the Obama campaign spiel about how the low-information/education women would be the ones still angry about the primary. She ended her column about how she didn’t want Palin as a role model for her little girls.

    I wrote her a scathing letter in response about all the reasons Obama is a bad choice and that despite all his many egregious negatives, the major reason for not voting for him is that he and the DNC STOLE the nomination from Hillary. I pointed her to the Democrats for Principle Before Party (The Denver Group). I also pointed out the tone of the Obama supporters and asked if she felt it would be a good role model for her little girls to have “their” President be someone who would take the stage to Jay-Z’s “99 Problems and a Bitch Ain’t One” and to be someone whose followers proudly wear t-shirts saying various things like “Cook my dinner; don’t run my country” or “Iron My Shirt” or “Bro’s Not Ho’s”–or especially the new one: “Palin is a C….T”

    As a mother of young girls, she really needs to get out of her little comfort zone about being so sure of her righteousness in this election.

    I was just plain torqued off at her tone about those women.

    • wodiej

      well said and any woman who thinks it’s ok for women to be called “ho’s” and “cunts” doesn’t have too much self esteem or character.

    • barry bums a ciggie

      I was one of the women she interviewed. The first thing that columnist said was “when Sarah Palin winked in the debate, it was a personal affront to her and her daughters.” I asked her why that is any different than Obama doing his street vernacular whenever he stood in front of a young crowd or a AA crowd. She didn’t have an answer. She was desperately trying to find reasons why Palin was evil from a woman’s advancement standpoint. It was rather pathetic.

    • ldyoung

      Thanks, Diana, for your insightful comments and for calling out that columnist! The whole primary, DNC debacle, sexist media, etc. still makes me sick.

      NOBAMA!

  • Shiloh

    Hillary will vote for McCain and so will I.

  • wodiej

    Anyone who writes in Hillary really isn’t too concerned w the welfare of this country.

    As for ever being a “real” Hillary supporter, I certainly was until she put her support behind someone who goes against everything she supposedly stands for. She lost me there.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Revisit how you feel about her in 4 years. That’s an eternity in politics.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I can’t think of anyone I would rather vote for than John McCain and Sarah Palin. Hillary is not in this race anymore.

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    Gov Palin live in Scranton

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      She was good…I watched her too.

  • Mary Lou

    Today I got a letter from a Hillary delegate I had written to several times before the convention…
    He said the Clintons had been treated “badly” but nevertheless he was urging me to vote Obama because the alternative is “unthinkable.” He actually said he would hold his nose while doing so. (They’re really starting to ratchet up the pressure in the home stretch…)

    I wrote back that no amount of nose holding would make it possible for me to vote for such a cheater, liar, race baiter and misogynist.

    • KathyNeocon

      Well done Mary Lou.

    • barry bums a ciggie

      I got a letter from Pat Waak in Colorado, along with signatures of other female politicians in our state (dems of course) stating that ‘we’ must support Mr. I-have-mommy-issues-barry. Me thinks that they know that women are not buying their crock of shit. From those Palin is a c*** tshirts, I don’t think I want to be part of the new hope and change. Thanks, but F.off.

      • Mary Lou

        I mentioned the Palin smearing shirts in my letter… It flabbergasts me that
        people with any principles at all can look this shit in the face and choose to ignore it…

    • ldyoung

      Good going, Mary Lou!

  • typical.white.person

    Link

    Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed her political future on “Fox and Friends” this morning, and she offered, well, zero insight into her aspirations beyond the United States Senate.

    “On a scale of 1-to-10, what are the chances you’ll be the next majority leader?” Gretchen Carlson of Fox News Channel asked her.

    “Oh, probably zero,” Mrs. Clinton replied.

    Supreme Court?

    “Zero! I have no interest in doing that,” said the Yale law grad.

    And the big one: “What are the chances you’ll run for president again?”

    “Probably close to zero!”

    • latina

      To my belief, her answer surely prove she is really holding back the anger. A person that sees no promise in the future is very upset.

    • bemused

      Translation:
      I don’t want to be on the Supreme Court.
      If Obama wins, my chances of being Senate Majority Leader are zero.
      There is definitely a chance I will run in 2012.

      because something is either zero or it isn’t, and where there’s a chance, it isn’t zero probability.

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!!

    (Just make sure you vote McCain/Palin) :)

    No. No. I’m just joking.

  • EightBelles

    When Hillary made the statement earlier today about not running again for POTUS in 2012, her eyes looked distant and haunted. I’m reminded of that old saying, “The eyes are the windows of the soul.” HRC has been strong armed by DNC Obammunist thugs to make these statements in order to help the imposter win. I believe HRC & Bill feel they can do more good for our country working from the inside out within the Dem party rather than blowing the whistle against the abomination who goes by the name of Barack Obama. In other words, I’m cutting Hillary & Bill some slack.

    That said I won’t be writing in HRC on my election ballot. If there’s any way BO can steal a write-in vote for Hill, the thief will. I will be voting for McCain-Palin. There are worse things than a true patriot and former POW occupying the oval office. And we all know what that “worse thing” is…

  • pm317

    From what happened in the primary, the DNC, the RBC, the Covention, Obama shenanigans to now with his toxic associations, (a new one everyday!)to voter fraud with his ACORN organization, Obama has to be defeated soundly. The only logical way to do that is to elect McCain. Think of this as a placeholder election — we don’t have to make the worst possible choice/mistake because of the corrupt media and even more corrupt DNC and Obama and give them even more power. McCain is better than Obama and he will do as a placeholder until we can correct the course in 2012. If it is with Hillary then, good, if not somebody definitely better than Obama.

  • Susan1968

    No – I won’t write in Hillary. I want the DNC to know, I know, we’ve been BAMBOOZLED by their FIXED primary.

    I called my voter registration office to request an absentee ballot so I can photocopy my ballot showing I voted “R” straight down the line.

    Then I’m going to send copies to every Florida Superdel who turned on Hillary even though she won FL and I will send a copy to Howard Dean to show how I (and my Mom & Hubby) took action against the FIXED Democratic primary

    And about the polls — I don’t believe them. There are ZERO political signs in my neighborhood.

    NONE! Not for either party. And to date I’ve seen only ONE Obama bumbersticker.

    Something odd is going on in FL. People are staying mum. Whatever the percentage of undecided FL voters the polls show I’m convinced they are not undecided at all.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      No political signs in my neighborhood either and I am in WEST LOS ANGELES! This is supposedly the heart of Obamaland!

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    I will not write Hillary – because she was “offended” by McCain crediting her plan, but not by Obama stealing another.
    Meanwhile, Jesse Jackson giving us some idea about the real agenda
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/israel-out-slavery-grievances-stay-jesse-jackson-on-obama-future/

  • John Smith

    McCain has already won this election. The republicans are upset munch more then they ever have been. Wealth redistribution is not something anybody really believes in. But what this election really comes down to is trust and people will not trust some rookie with their families in these uncertain times. The democrats think that they got this in the bag because of the economy but they have it all backwards. The crisis happened to early and plenty of people had time to think and not have a knee jerk reaction. When it comes to people’s security and well being they always go with what they know not with something new. That is just human nature. The polls will not reflect that because when people are asked is easy to say what ever you want but is a whole different story when you actually have to make a decision. In 2004 3 million more people voted for Bush then Kerry. I doubt those 62 million people will change their vote this time around. But what will change is that any new voters that the democrats think they will turn out will be more then offset by the Hillary democrats that the DNC decided they don’t need anymore. So make sure you vote for John McCain to teach the DNC a lesson and with it retake our party from the crazy far left wing of this country.

  • rickrickrick

    HOPE AND CHANGE IS A C#NT

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    History has shown that when Hillary is confronted with choosing between siding with the truth or siding with politics, that she has been known to choose politics

    I speak primarily of her trashing anyone who dared support Paula Jones or Linda Tripp. Her husband was a sexual predator and she’s on the Today Show decrying a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

    Despite all of the extraneous politics that leeched onto what happened between Bill Clinton and various women,those women still had been abused. They were not part of a conspiracy.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I don’t know about you all but I am tired of being called a right wing anything. I have voted for dems all my life but I have seen it is not the party of the people as it once was. I am appalled by what they are doing and all they do is yell right wing smear machine, funny that it is coming from democrats trying to get out the truth on Obama because he is not good for our country.

  • Patti

    If I wanted to vote for Obama I would have done so in the NY primary..

    I will vote for McCain/Pallin… I know where they come from, and what they have done..

    As for Hillary Clinton, I can still vote for her when she is up re election in the Senate Race. And I stayed a democrat so I can make sure they dont try to run some OBAMA democrat against her…

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I say please no more post at No Quarter about Clinton. She has not been in this race for a few months now. Move on people.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      I agree. Plus the trolling are trying to use Clinton as a wedge issue against PUMA’s.

      • 30yrdem-not any more

        Clinton has no right to tell anyone who to vote for and she should not be going on TV and doing it. Her time is over. She is using the liberal media who is lying to the public about Obama past.

        • Wisewoman

          Although I don’t agree with voting for Obama, Hillary has a right to do anything she wants that’s legal. We don’t have to follow her advise. Make no mistake I love the woman and Big Dawg. I will not, however, be taking her advise I will be voting for McCain.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I see in the crawl on Fox that Obama is yelling voter suppression, I guess he thinks Micky Mouse should get to vote in FL. what a load of crap. If all those people get away with voting like some are trying to and getting caught, it will in no way be a fair race.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Ha ha.

      So that’s why he’s going to lose. Cartoon characters and dead people are not allowed to vote.

      Seriously, this is another example of projection on Obama’s part. Voter suppression is Obama’ss stock in trade. All the trolls here are part of a plan to discourage PUMA’s and independent voters from showing up at the polls.

      Obama can only win through fraud, and with the support of corrupt media machine.

      (Warner Brothers cartoon characters are voting for McCain/Palin.)

      • 30yrdem-not any more

        Did you see the Drudge headline?
        ACORN REGISTERS ‘MICKEY MOUSE’

        or this?

        Ohio Catches Bogus ACORN registrant casting vote…

    • Patti

      I saw an interview on FOX and the democrats were using it as a new talking point.

  • calli

    Hillary should have been the nominee!! I am convinced more than ever voter fraud played a part in Hillary’s defeat!! To vote for Obama would be a mistake!! Everytime I think about how Obama treated Hillary it makes me sick!! It’s easy to forgive but not forget!!

    • Read my lipstick

      You need to let go of HRC for now.

      The candidates are McCain or BHO.

      Make the right choice. Stop wasting energy on what might have been.

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

    can someone re-post the great Bill Clinton quote where he compares 2 “theoretical” candidates to make the case for voting for a particular candidate which everyone basically took as him saying to vote for mccain?

    that was brilliant!

    i think that says everything we need to know about what the Clintons believe…

    they rawk!

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      the x-y thing?…I loved that myself…

  • 30yrdem-not any more
  • HC

    I would love to have seen a Hillary Clinton v John McCain election. I bet the debates would have been great – I would have been able to stomach both sides.

    Unfortunately we do not get this choice.

    Hillary is out for now, so lets stop beating that horse and move on. It is unproductive and divisive.

    Look at the candidates and vote your conscience.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    Video games feature ads for Obama’s campaign

    Too busy playing video games to watch presidential ads on television? Barack Obama has found you, too, by becoming the first presidential candidate to buy ad space inside a game.

    Nine video games from Electronic Arts Inc., ranging from the extremely popular “Madden 09″ football game to the street racing “Burnout: Paradise,” feature in-game ads from the Obama campaign. The ads—they appear on billboards and other signage—remind players that early voting has begun and plug a campaign Web site.

    The idea of embedding advertising temporarily inside a video game is relatively new, having only begun about 18 months ago, and Obama is the first presidential candidate to buy space, company officials said.

    The Democrat’s ads are aimed at gamers who like sports, including NASCAR, NBA, NHL and skateboarding, meaning EA Sports’ motto, “It’s in the game,” now applies to presidential politics as well.

    EA spokeswoman Holly Rockwood would not say how much the ads cost, but she said they are running on the Xbox Live versions of the game through Nov. 3. They began earlier this month.

    The timing of the Obama ads within the video game varies from state to state. Players in smaller states may see the Obama ads for the whole month, while users in bigger states may see them for a shorter period.

    “It reaches an audience that is typically hard to reach—young males, roughly 18 to 34,” said Rockwood. “That’s very appealing to our advertisers.”

    is this reaching people who vote or kids? That is not all of the piece.

  • KXT

    ACORN cost Hilary CLinton the primaries. It is now proven that ACORN voter registration fraud in the primaries is the reason why Obama is the presidential nominee.

    The republicans are hard on ACORN heels to preserve the integrity of the elction. Many foreign students are signing up to vote when they should not.

    This will go down as the greattest election fraud in MAerican history.

  • Erasmus

    For those of you who are decrying Hillary’s actions please keep one thing in mind – 2012. If she had said that she would run again for president that would have had serious implications:
    That she does not believe Obama will win.
    Or that she is prepared to run against a sitting President Obama a la Kennedy/Carter in 1980.
    In other words there would have been absolute ructions and finger-pointing by the bots when Bambi loses. The way their brains work would lead to the following exegesis:
    ‘we were way ahead in the polls right up to the end, then we lost, it must have been that ****** Hillary’
    2012, 2012, 2012.
    I believe McCain will win and Hillary will be the candidate in 2012. And think she believes this as well. What then? This is what. The boot will be on the other foot and she will be dependant on the votes of erstwhile Obamabots. Let’s face it this is a cult bordering on a political movement. When they lose it will turn nasty. And Hillary has to go to extreme lengths now to pre-empt a ‘Hillary screwed Barack in ’08′ meme developing.
    And when they lose you can be sure that us PUMAs will be seen by the bots as the agents of Satan (I’m sort of looking forward to that by the way).
    But watch out for a bot version of PUMA in 2012. They will probably go for some stupid name like AMUP (PUMA backwards) to make this point. Typical bot style spite -’ we’ll get them back for what they did to us by giving them a taste of their own medicine waaaaah’ . But,and this is an important but, whether
    the AMUPs end up as a serious force in ’12 or just a fringe group of cranks depends on how Hill conducts herself now. And she knows it.
    Hill is a realist and has been through bruising experiences. She has learned the hard way that you can only survive in the modern Democratic party by being downright cynical. Don’t worry. She’ll set the record straight when she writes her memoirs as (hopefully) ex-president Clinton 2.
    Again my advice is to vote for McCain. There is too much at stake for half measures.

    • NewHampster

      Wrong. We don’t have to worry about the bots in 2012. They’ll all either be too busy in grad school or working their tales off in entry level bot jobs for daddy’s corporatist company.

  • Thomas

    If McCain really wants to win over all of Hillary’s supporters, then, discuss with her openly the position of Treasury Secretary. With its expanded powers, and the financial crisis at hand, it would destroy Barky Nov. 4th.

    Maverick, destiny is calling you to name Hillary as your Treasury Secretary, should you win. Heed the call.

  • PKJAYNE

    Hillary is looking awful these days.

    • ldyoung

      Isn’t that the truth, PKJAYNE. You can tell what a toll this entire mess has taken on her. My heart breaks just seeing her and knowing what’s been done to her by the DNC and Oblahblah. It’s written all over her face…

  • http://firefox McAnnie Carmel Baracuda

    Yes, Hillary looked dispirited when she was on Fox this morning. No point living in shoulda, coulda, woulda.

    We must take back the Democratic Party and the only way to do that is to vote McCain/Palin.

    Along the way, let’s hope that we get a wonderful gift; that they will be a terrific team and bring stability to the country.

    Socialism is not the way. If the DNC choice is elected, we are in for a horrendous 4 and maybe even 8 years. Unthinkable.

    • KathyNeocon

      I think Hillary and Bill know in their hearts Obama is a crackpot, socialist and unfit to be POTUS. They’re going through the motions because for the sake of the Party, but the duplicity is taking its toll.

  • Michael

    Agreed! I vote McCain.

  • EMJ

    Thanks to whoever posted this:

    Could he be arrested and charged with a federal crime? I mean, if he intentionally pursued the presidency, full well knowing that he was violating our constitution, is there a law against that?

    Don’t vote for McCain too soon. If Obama implodes in next week or so, DNC will be scrambling for a replacement candidate — Hillary is logical choice.

    So save your vote until as close to election day as possible. It could happen!!

    • Annie

      Joe Biden is the vp running mate and he will be the candidate and Nancy Pelosi will be third runner up…. Hillary is out and the current DNC will not let her in – you can depend on that.

      Hillary Clinton’s only chance to get POTUS will be in 2012 when the DNC fools are outed and a new DNC comes to pass. This is just another reason to vote McCain/Palin. And I feel quite comfortable with McCain – he is an American Patriot – he loves this country and is a real straight talker and crosses the aisle…He also said he will have women in his cabinet and he will use democrats in his cabinet also. Possibility of Clinton being in his cabinet and you never know Bill Clinton will probably get an office of some sort – maybe ambassador… Now that would be a good thing.

      Whatever else happens with McCain as President Hillary will be just fine – they are friends. Remember McCain called Hillary when she had her big primary wins to congratulate her. Nice guy!

  • HILLARY 2012

    MOST STATES DON’T RECOGNIZE WRITE-IN BALLOTS. THEY SIMPLY THROW THEM OUT. MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT.

    VOTE FOR McCAIN-PALIN

  • HILLARY 2012

    October 10, 2008

    Clinton supporters sharing evidence for RICO case against Obama campaign

    Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized

    If you haven’t been a regular here at HillBuzz, you might not know about Gigi Gaston’s documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced” on the caucus fraud deliberately orchestrated by the Obama campaign during the primaries.

    Voter intimidation, registration fraud, vandalism, threats of violence, you name it, Obama’s supporters did it.

    For veterans of the McGovern ‘72 campaign who remembered thugs and hooligans engaged in similar tactics in service of their own far left candidate, the actions of Obama’s followers were so bad that even people who’ve lived through the last 36 years of ups and downs in America testified that this is the worst thing they’ve ever seen happen to our democracy.

    Gaston’s documentary continues to gather testimonials from people across the country — and we have word now that the people behind these efforts to document what Obama did during the primaries are also cooperating with law enforcement in an investigation into the Obama campaign’s efforts to undermine the true will of the people in the general election.

    Republicans and centrist Democrats are joined together on this effort to get the truth out about Obama before the November election.

    We firmly believe in McCain’s victory and do not believe it hinges on any developments with RICO. The polls, in our opinon, are wrong, and the internal numbers we see coming out of NC, VA, PA, OH, IN and FL show McCain wins in all of those states (there is no mathematical possibility for Obama to win without taking PA, OH, or FL). We believe after McCain’s win there will be a continued prosecution of Obama and members of the Democratic party for voter fraud under RICO statutes in the months and years ahead. ACORN and leftist Democrats have gone too far this time — for years ACORN has engineered deliberate election fraud using taxpayer dollars funneled to it by Democrats.

    This time, with both Democrats and Republicans joined against them, ACORN Is going down…and we believe it will ultimately take Obama, Axelrod, and most of today’s Democratic leadership down with it.
    What we have talked about here on HillBuzz, and what other stories like the one posted below have also noted, is just the tip of the iceberg. We have no idea what is going on behind closed doors: only what we observe in the news and what people more closely involved relate to us.

    People leave comments here saying, “What’s the update? What’s the update?”. Well, there won’t be an update on this every day. We luck out and are told things, and we happily share them as soon as they make sense to us. Sometimes things fall in our lap, like noticing the story at the bottom of this post — which gives us the idea to make a few calls of our own — and that confirms things we’ve suspected, but can then write about fully.

    There IS a RICO investigation of ACORN and the Obama campaign underway – this has now been established by the mainstream media. Right now it’s rumored here in Chicago that Patrick Fitzgerald is heading it (confirmation on that has not come yet). There is a lot of activity in Chicago right now, with a lot of IRS agents looking into the finances coming in and out of this city, and across state lines (this was established on Monday when the GOP issued emergency press releases that much of Obama’s campaign contributions could very well be illegal foreign contributions – what appears to be deliberately poor record keeping designed to hide the true identities and monetary sources of online donors is at issue here). We see in 15 states now that ACORN is being busted for attempted voter fraud, and for fraudulent, illegal voter registratons in the hundreds of thousands, if not a million.

    The article below states, and we have confirmed this with people who know for sure, that the people who gathered evidence of Obama’s fraud and voter intimidation techniques during the primaries against Hillary Clinton are sharing everything they have with the Republican Party and the federal government.

    What’s happening here is something we have never seen before: centrist Clinton Democrats and Republicans are working together to expose the DNC and Obama campaign’s illegal activities and orchestrated, coordinated fraud. Both parties are working with federal agents to investigate ACORN, which has been funded with upwards of $800,000 in questionable donations from the Obama campaign (in what appears to be the expressed and explicit direction to engineer voter fraud in the general election). The tactics being employed now in the 15 states currently under investigation are the VERY SAME TACTICS we saw on the ground in Iowa, Texas, Colorado, Nebraska, Indiana, and other states working for Hillary Clinton in the primaries.
    And all of this ties back to Chicago.

    Where the Obama campaign and DNC are now based.
    Where people we know tip us off to little things to pay attention to that, when pieced together with all the other little pieces that are revealing themselves, leads to a single conclusion: there will be indictments for all of this.

    We don’t know when they will come — but they will come. There is just too much here to ignore.
    “Why didn’t the federal government get involved in the primaries?”, some people ask in comments. Well, we aren’t lawyers, but someone told us yesterday that the primaries are party affairs and are not governed by federal election laws. We’re sure a legal scholar will comment on this and set us straight.

    The parties set the rules for their primaries…but the general election IS governed by federal election law. This is why Florida and Michigan were allowed to be such a mess for Democrats, and why Donna Brazile and Howard Dean got away with taking delegates away from Hillary Clinton and giving them, unearned, to Obama for Michigan: no federal agency had any ability to step in and ensure a fair resolution of the Michigan and Florida votes.

    This was 100% in the hands of the Democratic party, which intended to award Obama its nomination since 2004. The party never intended to allow Hillary Clinton to win this thing — they always wanted Obama, and the party thus turned a deaf ear to our constant and repeated complaints of voter fraud, intimidation, and other thuggery by the Obama campaign from January through June.

    That means, technically, nothing Obama did during the primaries was illegal…if our understanding of election law is true and political party primaries are not safeguarded under federal law. The things his campaign is orchestrating now, however, ARE violations of the law.

    Thus, all the evidence Clinton supporters and Republicans have gathered of fraud and voter intimidation during the primaries establishes the pattern of behavior that’s allowing RICO investigators to clearly discern a national conspiracy, rooted in Chicago, to hijack this election and defraud the will of the people.

    It’s all background information, with the RICO case seemingly evolving from the 15 separate investigations now underway in all states busting ACORN offices.

    The Obama campaign, meanwhile, is in damage control mode, trying to amend FEC filings to erase ACORN from all of its paperwork — including claiming the $800,000 the Obama campaign paid ACORN for voter fraud (including registering the dead and enlisting homeless people and college kids to illegally multi-vote in multiple states or multiple intrastate polling places) was actually awarded to an unrelated, though wholly owned, subsidiary of ACORN.

    The media, which risked all its credibility betting on an Obama win, will not report any of this because when Obama falls, he will take America’s faith in journalism with him. Democrats, especially, will never trust the media again, since they will come to realize they lost a sure shot at taking back the White House with Hillary Clinton, because the media wanted to run an Obama campaign, and Howard Dean and Donna Brazile were all too pleased to oblige.

    Republicans never trusted the media to begin with — so chalk that up, surprisingly, to yet another thing centrist Democrats now agree with Republicans on.
    All of this is still developing and we do not know how many more breaks in this story will come before November 4th.

    We do detect a purposeful breaking of something new in this story every few days. Monday was the reports of illegal contributions to the Obama campaign from overseas that tied into the $800,000 given to ACORN by Obama. On Wednesday, all Hell broke lose in 15 states with ACORN offices left and right busted for massive voter fraud operations. We don’t know about other cities, but lawyers here in Chicago are talking about something BIG going down.

    On in-trade, someone short-sold Obama and bought $140,000 in shares for a McCain win on November 4th, dropping Obama’s intrade price from roughly $75/share to $64/share or so.

    When a storm is coming, some know, some don’t. The ones that know do odd things that make sense only in retrospect. Right now, we are noticing a lot of odd things and are piecing this together as best we can to see patterns emerging.

    Whenever a storm brews for Obama, the media ratchets up its cheerleading, and those in the tank for him do whatever they can to protect him. That’s why we’ve also noticed the polling companies changing their party ID samples in the last two or three weeks, upping Democrats’ party ID to 50% in some polls, and dropping Republicans down to just 20%, with 30% Independent. If you look at this critically, you’d see that Democrats have never enjoyed more than a 4% historical party ID advantage. In 2006, a year that Democrats RAGED against both Bush and the sex-scandal plagued GOP (Mark Foley, Larry Craig, and other characters), Democrats had just a 3% party ID advantage. All of this means polls should be using samples with 39% Democrats, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent.

    The polling samples are manipulated to give Obama higher poll numbers than he really in fact has, as reflective of support in the electorate. Some people believe this is all being done as cover for the voter fraud — so that Obama polls higher than he should in states where ACORN’s activities are meant to pump illegal votes in to push him much higher than he would be in an actual, legitimate election.

    The polls, in essence, are thus showing that ACORN is expected to deliver that 11% party ID advantage to Democrats, by bringing the dead, ineligible felons, and homeless multi-voters to the voting booths. The polls thus seem rigged to produce the results Obama wants…and ACORN is the muscle to make sure results are delivered to match the established polls.

  • http://Ashy1 Leo Ashy

    I agree with your post. A protest vote for Hillary might make you feel better but will not get her elected. It will also have the unintended effect of broadcasting that her supporters did not get on board, and we all know how much people love to bash and blame her. I honestly believe that anyone who nurses a hope that she can some day, some how run again should allow her to fade into deep background for awhile.

  • http://Ashy1 Leo Ashy

    Correction:
    Obviously the intention would be to broadcast. Retaliation would be unintended. Yawn. It’s late.

  • jane_tx

    I stopped thinking about writing Hillary in after she began campaigning for BO. I still would BY FAR rather be voting on Nov 4 for Hillary, but no question now about needing to vote against Obama. I dont have a problem voting for McCain. I do have a problem with anyone who gives a rap for what the Obamites believe about votes for Hillary! Cr@p!! Who Cares??
    Uh bama and his sheeple are dyed in the wool misogynists, they will blame any nearby woman who looks accessible for their own failings. I wont be guided by what he may or may not think! That is so stupid.

  • http://360.yahoo.com/ommotherlifeforce fred heidrick

    i dont care what others do New Hamster

    im still writing in Hillarys name

    because im a independent, and i have to follow my own will and inner direction .

    i am responsible for my own actions and choises and will have to answer for them after i die.there are more important thing in this world than elections.

    the butterfly affect.

  • Obama’s lies

    Don’t worry about Hillary. She said today on TV that she doesn’t want to be Senate maority leader, isn’t interested in being on the Supreme Court, and won’t run for president again.

    I don’t know what has happened to Hillary.

  • http://www.missmalevolent.com Miss Malevolent

    If Hillary is saying she’s not going to run for President again, you can pretty much bank on her not running again in 2012 or any other year.

    Still doesn’t compel me to vote for Obama or McCain though.

    I tend to think Obama is going to win, but I’m still not sure about that. What I am sure about is I’m voting third party and if Obama IS elected, he’s going to push us further into “correct speech” policies and social reconditioning.

    And no one is going to realize it until it’s too late.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs dgr

    holding your nose and voting for McCain is better than flushing yourself down the kool-aid filled toilet bowl.

  • latina

    IGNORE THE OBAMATROLLS