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A Sarah Palin Christmas

Editor’s Notes: Bumped Up * Hear Larry Johnson tonight on John Batchelor’s radio show, via iTunes (instructions included).

Don’t kill the messenger. I’m just reporting what I saw. Last night we hosted a Christmas Party at our house for the nurses who work for my wife. My wife is a nurse manager and has a staff of 67 (the fact that no human being should have to write fitness reports on 67 people is another matter for another time).

Among the more than 50 people crowded into our house were a small group of teenagers, boys and girls. I have a pool table in my basement alongside a nice 50 inch flat panel TV. Playing eight ball and watching some tube. Life is good. It is a sort of man cave environment. Three of the teenage boys were eager to play billiards and I obliged them. A fourteen and fifteen year old tandem of Irish twins played me and a ten year old boy.

Now you’re asking, I”m sure, what the hell does this have to do with Sarah Palin?

When the billiards match concluded (yes, I beat up on the 14 and 15 year old boys) the boys decided to sit down and watch some tube. It is not your normal system and the remote is not easy to figure out so I offered to get them the channel they wanted. Imagine my shock when all three–the ten year old boy, the fourteen and the fifteen year old–requested SARAH PALIN’S ALASKA. I have HBO, Showtime, Encore and NFL Network. Although I do not subscribe to the Playboy channel it was late enough at night that I’m sure Showtime had a nude fest on somewhere.

Yet, despite all of those options, the boys wanted to watch Sarah Palin’s show. Hell, I did not even realize it was on. These guys knew where and when the show was on. That tells me something about the Sarah phenomena. She is resonating with a segment of society I never imagined would have a clue about her.

One of the boys did confess that he found Sarah’s daughter, and I’m quoting here, “HOT.” I found that reassuring in that one would expect teenage boys to be thinking about girls.

Democrats beware. All of your attacks on Sarah Palin and your attempts to demonize her or demean her intellect are likely to backfire. You know Sarah is a genuine phenomena when you are confronted with the fact that three boys with a chance to watch anything on TV choose to watch Sarah.

How’s that for a Christmas story?

  • Khan Krum

    Fear not, the Huntress is coming!

  • Khan Krum

    Fear not, for I bring you glad tidings of joy: the Huntress is coming!

  • creeper

    Absolutely heartwarming, Larry.  And totally unexpected!  I’ll bet your jaw dropped when they told you what they wanted to watch.

    S’funny…all through the day on Thanksgiving, as I was mixing stuffing, cooking turkey, mashing potatoes, I kept thinking of Sarah up in her own kitchen in Wasilla doing exactly the same thing. 

    Sarah Palin is us.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Been trying to explain it to you Larry!

    There is no mystery about it to the average American Family.

    SARAH 2012

    :*

  • Jmm915

    Too bad they’re not old enough to vote.

  • yttik

    I believe you, Larry! I often have a house full of teens and they love to watch Palin’s Alaska. What can I say, it’s a refreshing show full of adventures and things you don’t often see on TV, like girls and woman acting like real people. Contrast that to something like Jersey Shore, I mean, no offense to Snooki, but after spending about five minutes with her, you’d have a head ache and be longing to go halibut fishing with Bristol Palin.

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    Love it…thanks for the story.

    It is becoming more and more evident how Sarah Palin and her family resonate with a wide variety of people.  You know, people like us!

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    actually I think guys prefer women who are more down to earth.  Those are the ones they want to marry.

  • Tamara Cracker

    People like her because she’s the real deal.  No pretense.  No “talking points”.
    And after reading her first book, I REALLY fell in love with the woman.
    She loves her family.
    She loves her country.
    What’s not to love about her? (okay, she needs a vocal coach, but no one’s perfect).

  • Breeze

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    My daughters know a few Alaskan women and they tell me that they are
    all very much like Sarah.

    I suppose it is the harsh environment that make these ladies so ‘tough’,
    Alaska is not a place for WIMPS…..

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Katmoon and I watch the show when we can find it. Unlike other “reality shows” that are neither, this one is interesting for all the right reasons. You know, if civiilization were to collapse tomorrow, Palin and her family would survive, which is more than I could say about many American families.

  • Breeze

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    My daughters know a few Alaskan women and they tell me that they are  
    all very much like Sarah.  
     
    I suppose it is the harsh environment that make these ladies so ‘tough’,  
    Alaska is not a place for WIMPS…..

    Let’s face it, life today is not what we are used to and we need someone
    to arouse the WARRIOR in us, Sarah does that.   And young boys would
    not respond to this?

  • Tricia

    What’s not to like about Sarah?  She’s beautiful, clever, smart, interesting, funny, self-confident, and a good mother.  In many ways, she has it all.  But that doesn’t mean that she has what it takes to run a country in very deep trouble. (I think most of us are still oblivious to how much trouble we are in–look at the last international educational survey for example,)

    We’ve been down that “popular and attractive” road in 2008….and look where we are.

  • politicsisdirty

    What the Democrats don’t understand is Sarah Palin is a genuine patriot unlike their hero who was manufactured by the Lame Stream Media.

  • guest

    I watched an episode about a month ago and one of the most striking features of the show to me was how little time a baby with special needs required. She told the girls to wave at him through the window once.  He was with a gray haired lady.  I never saw any interaction with mom. No wonder the other kids were so rude and obviously resentful of their situation.

    Sarah Palin talks family values but her time is spent doing this show, constantly on her Blackberry, working at a computer or doing her Fox show out in her studio. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    That is an excellent point, Ferd.  When people like Aaron Sorkin rip into her for going hunting, you know darn well that if something happened, he wouldn’t have the FOGGIEST how to survive (and as much as I liked Sorkin for “The West Wing” and “American President,” not only was his response to her last “Palin’s Alaska” condescending and elitist, but he based it on a number of factual errors, thus completely weakening his entire argument.).  Meanwhile, the Palins can fish, hunt, find berries, and all kinds of stuff.  They will make it just fine.

  • getfitnow

    I don’t have kids and have never been around them much. This is so refrshing to hear. I thought we had lost them to the MTV’s and VH1′s of our world.

    There’s hope.

  • West Virginia

    What’s your problem this morning?

  • FrenchNail

    Yes for the vocal coach…. but otherwise do not change a thing about the woman. I really like her and completely trust her judgement in time of crisis.
    Plus there is no doubt in my mind she loves America, which is not the case for most of the members of the administration in place, Obama first in line.

  • getfitnow

    And that’s what drives these fools crazy. They’re jealous–personally and professionally, imo. and it just is too hard too believe that a fake narrative doesn’t have to be crafted for a politician-type to be liked.

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Spot on. I have no problem with those who hunt for reasons other than collecting a trophy. I hunted game bird for many years because I like the taste of wild pheasant and quail. Moreover, meat purchased at a bigbox grocery store is often bland and quite uninteresting and is adulterated with all sort of unsavory chemicals.

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    “Guest” got up on the wrong side of life, apparently.

  • getfitnow

    I saw a comment that her father has a bumper sticker on his car, (not verbatim)—Vegans are People that Can’t Shoot!  Love it.

  • getfitnow

    I actually think more people than ever know exactly hw much trouble we’re in. There is an awakening.

  • FrenchNail

    Tricia, I know perfectly well the kind of trouble we are in. Globalism is a reality most Americans are still ignoring. I don’t. And I am ready to fight it to most of my abilities. And so would Sarah. There is not a ounce of New World Order crap in the woman.

    What about a Palin/Trump ticket for a “restoring America” vision?

  • getfitnow

    I actually think more people than ever know exactly how much trouble we’re in –well, excluding most Californians!

  • FrenchNail

    Paid much for this “opinion”?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    It was vegetarians, but yes, he did.  It was pretty funny.

    Ferd, I hear you.  Though I have never hunted (don’t eat beef or pork, either), I respect people’s right to hunt for food.  Heck, where I live, a LOT of people hunt/fish.

    What is so ironic abt Sorkin’s rant is that, as Palin pointed out, her food is organic, and free range.  Isn’t that EXACTLY what these elitists pay more for in the grocery store?  And just how the hell do they think it gets from the “free range” to the store?  Someone has to kill it for them.  Palin also thanked the caribou for providing food for her family for the winter.  She didn’t take it for granted, and she wasn’t doing it just for sport, as she packaged the meat and put it in the freezer.

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Let’s face it, life today is not what we are used to and we need someone  to arouse the WARRIOR in us, Sarah does that
    ==================
    Amen. In the progressive world, we cower in line in airports while being serially irradiated or sexually molested by a government run amuck; Our civil liberties are stripped of us; ugly signage is posted everywhere stating what we can’t do; we prefer feeling safe to being free; we’d rather have the government run our lives than take a chance on actually living. In the progrsssive world, those things that make life worth living are sacrificed at the altar of the God of Security. Progress? My ass.

  • Breeze

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    SOOOOOOO,

    Now she’s a BAD mother, guest?

    Seems to me that she does more things with her kids than most MODERN
    parents I know today……

    I did all sorts of things with my kids, too…..and that little one seems glued
    to her hip, just like mine – starting 47 years ago, on to granchild to great-
    grandchildren….

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    We’ve been down that “popular and attractive” road in 2008….and look where we are.
    ===================
    That is true but we are where we are now because the electorate always confuses style with substance and format with content. To the contrary, Sarah is not about appearances but about bedrock substance and content and that pisses her opponents off. Yet they criticize her for the same irrelevant characteristics for which they praised the shifty bamboozler in the White House. And like That One, the screaming memies on the left can’t get her out of their tiny little heads.

  • Breeze

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    Aren’t these OBOTS a scream?

    Some say she’s exploiting her kids, others – like guest – that she’s not
    paying them enough attention…..

    BITCH, BITCH, BITCH……

    TOO BAD IT’S NOT STICKING!!!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Who said? Dead people voted in 2008! ;)  

  • Breeze

    -  
     
     
    Recognizing the Revolution  
     
    Canada Free Press,  
    by Judi McLeod     
     
    Original Article  
     
    12/11/2010  
     
    If you’re feeling the same kind of slight shiver that a house draft sends through the tinsel on your Christmas tree this morning, it’s because the Marxists are here. It may still be what some call a soft tyranny but the rope is now hovering above the heads of the free people of many lands as the Marxists work to herd unsuspecting populations into One World Government. America, a beacon to so many, is their prime target in real time because the Republic still stands there after two years of unceasing attack. 
    ————————————————————–COMMENT:  
     
    The one thing the Marxists didn’t get done is that they didn’t get our guns. An armed populace is more difficult to control, particularly if they are organized. The grass roots formation of the Tea Party is something the Marxists didn’t expect, it bodes well for our ability to defend ourselves.  
     
    I don’t believe that we are as weak as we are portrayed by the media. I can’t imagine Americans will allow their country to be taken over.  
     
    We won the first battle in November, and we will win the war.  
     As Sarah says, “Don’t retreat, reload.”

  • Breeze

    -

    SARAH PALIN:

    “THE SPIRIT OF 1773″

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Sarah Palin: A latter-day Molly Pitcher.

  • NAN

    Sarah Palin WILL NEVER BE OUR PRESIDENT, NEVER.  I have a 16 year old grandson  with Republican instincts, but Sarah Palin IS not anywhere in his political convertation.  As matter of fact I have noticed that this is a Party with NO ONE who will be a threat to Obama….DANG IT. 

    I was shocked the other day when Obama JUST LEFT for a christmas party and left Bill Clinton to handle HIS news conference.  Who  IS in charge here, the Speaker of house or even the soon to be Speak of the house?  Seriously and I’ve read remarks from others that wonder if he WANTS to have second term. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    2012, some parents might consider listening to their children before they vote! ;)

  • ~~JustMe~~

    2012, some parents might consider listening to their children before they vote!

  • AbigailAdams

    I had one of those clear thoughts that often come at the edge of sleep or waking.  And I don’t know why it was about Sarah Palin, but I’m glad this thread was up so I could share it.

    It was a thought that was wrapped around the left media’s defense of Obama’s high-tailng it out of the presser with Clinton.  That someone thought that it was a “brillliant” move for him to apparently employ Clinton as a spokesperson for the tax bill — I was thinking how utterly lame and reaching that kind of thinking on media’s part is.  It sounds like the kind of spin a 14 year-old would employ in their attempt to sell a bad idea to a parent.

    As these things go, our thoughts, it made me think of how the Obama campaign tried to make all the lazy thinkers, young and not-so-young, in this country feel like Einsteins playing along in their 12th Dimensional Chess game.  I’m pretty sure not one of them even knew what the hell 3 dimensional chess looks like or even how to play chess at all — well, anywhere near competently — but it made them feel very brilliant and intellectual to think they could play 12 Dimensional chess and it made them think they had the intellectual credentials to judge Sarah Palin as “stupid.”  We’re talking about kids and adults with arrested development who wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution if you read an excerpt from one of them (maybe even the preambles to them) and asked them which one it came from.  I know because I’ve done this. 

    Charters of Freedom aside, I imagine these same people could not tell you the difference between Keynesian economics and Kenyan nationality.  http://thepartyofknow.com/2010/11/02/restoring-sanity-is-obama-keynesian/

    I’ve noticed among my tea party friends and acquaintances that if we engage for very long about the subject of government or politics or economics–say, anything after the 90 second mark–the conversation starts to include specific references to long-dead, and by the left’s assessment, “irrelevant” people and ideas.  The difference is my friends happen to know the specific relevance.  We have this annoying habit of recalling not only their names and dates but also how one set of actions built the foundation for future actions and what it all means.

    This is the conclusion I reached in my early morning thoughts:  That when you don’t know much about history, geography, economics, religion, political science, or even the history of political parties; when you don’t know much about social engineering, Marxism, communism, Utopian societies, socialism, labor unions or the true meanings of ideology and doctrine; if you don’t know much about the scientific method or the history of geologic change but you have superficial knowledge of community organizing, social justice movements, and whatever else you picked up from your “like-minded” friends, the only possibe response you can have to someone like Sarah Palin is to call her ”stupid.”  After all, if you can play 12th Dimensional chess, you MUST be smarter than the average person.  

  • Fed Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Sarah Palin WILL NEVER BE OUR PRESIDENT, NEVER.  I have a 16 year old grandson  with Republican instincts, but Sarah Palin IS not anywhere in his political convertation.
    ==================
    No offense, but a sixteen year-old is not representative of the Republican party. I’m not a Republican (or Democrat any longer) but have Palin as one for whom I could vote.

  • yttik

    The problem with being a vegitarian in a natural setting where you have to live off the land, is that most of us are just not cut out for it. I mean the amount of vegitarian food you have to collect is phenomenal. You would be struggling 20 hours a day to get enough to eat and burning it off faster than you can harvest it.

    Being a vegitarian is really a luxury of western culture, because we can zip down to a grocery store and buy beans and tofu cheaply, even though it probably took 20 acres and 3 months of hard labor to produce them.

    More power to anybody who has the luxury of chosing to be a vegitarian, but even when I do it I’m well aware that it’s an elitist act, possible only because I live in a privileged country and have the means to purchase things.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Dang it! Either I either lose my name to the “my site click to edit” or misspell it.

  • NAN

    You’re funny…Yeah the Republicans are now the majority in house, BUT, don’t forget, they lost a Presidential election last term AND  lost the majority in both branchs JUST two years ago….  And the third last election,  A VERY SLOW SHELLACING. BEFORE, the last election, the polls  were very low for our congress AS A WHOLE.  Until they clean-up the mess they made over the last several years as being the MAJORITY PARTY, I don’t think they’ll last as the Majority.  The last election was NOT a vote FOR the  REPUBLICANS AS MUCH AS IT WAS A WARNING SHOOT TO BOTH PARTYS and IN THAT CASE I AGREE… RELOAD, because IF they don’t CLEAN-UP THEIR MESS, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SHELLACKING…

  • yttik

    Eeeww…..yeah. Given the choice between passively standing in line at an airport waiting for my sexual harrassment to occur or following Palin to Sanctuary is an easy decision to make.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    I fear for our future with generation “duh” at the helm.

  • Amarissa

    LOL!!!!!

  • seattlegonz

    I think Sarah is a political genius. She knew that carbou killing would make the left apoplectic, and it would give her a chance to elevate their hypocrisy. All the men of the left, Kerry in his hunting and hockey gear, look completely emasculated next to Sarah. So she can be all man against the men of the left, and at the same time, as feminine as any woman, putting makeup on the soldier, to the rest.

    She has painted herself as representing everyone except the arrogant and hypocritic of the far left. (I really think the right better get a clue as to how savvy she is.) I get why men are afraid of her…McCain even looked ridiculous next to her. She started the fight theme, and then McCain started screeching “fight, fight, fight” and he looked awful.

  • NAN

    EX….CUSE ME, butta WHO was in charge on 9/11?????  WHO WAS IT that DIDN’T PROTECT OUR COUNTRY?   Who was in charge when we attacked the country of Iraq, who had nothing to do wih 9/11…WHO?????  Who brought us the HOME LAND SECURITY?  Who was it that complained that Democrat’s were weak, and wouldn’t protect us?  YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAY’S…

  • Katmoon

    Imagine the laundry list of what Sarah is supposed to do as a mother, than imagine that same list being applied to those who demand it, yet probably couldn’t possibly fullfill it. That is what the problem is, Sarah on her own is fine, those who hate her cannot tolerate that, she needs to be really in need of their version of advice, and if she doesn’t change to suit the mold they have created for her, then she is______________fill in the blank. She is a solid human being who stands by her principals, which she has and lives. It isn’t lip service it is her life. she works hard she continues to avail herself to learning and she lives her life, regardless of how many would try to change it and her. This is what I love about Srah Palin she is her own woman, she doesn’t ascribe to some definition of what a woman should be, she is what a woman could be, anything she wants to be.

  • yttik

    Convertation, huh? That’s an interesting slip. Palin is actually busy leading the convertation at this very moment, converting the Republican party into a people’s party that can and will be held accountable.

    Never say never.

  • Katmoon

    Rock On

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    A better question would be, “Who is continuing the unconstitutional processes started by the Bush Administration and who is augmenting them with government-sponsored sexual molestation and other such felonious acts”?

    I neither liked not voted for Bush but he is not the issue any longer because what he did is no longer relevant. What That One is currently doing IS relevant and must be stopped.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    An excellent comment, seattlegonz, with which I concur.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    A better question would be, “Who is continuing the unconstitutional processes started by the Bush Administration and who is augmenting them with government-sponsored sexual molestation and other such felonious acts”?  
     
    I neither liked nor voted for Bush but he is not the issue any longer because what he did is no longer relevant. What That One is currently doing IS relevant and must be stopped.

  • tango

    Well the week before last when the Palins went salmon fishing, Sarah returned home at the end of the episode. Trig was kinda trailing behind her as she was walking across the room.  The next shot showed her holding him on her hip by the kitchen island if I remember right. Well what does Piper (the youngest daughter do) she looks at her brother and sticks her arms out like “do you want me to hold you” and he got excited and flaped his arms or whatever to signify he did.  I think he got a cuddle from Mom and was ready to move on. The show has shots of Willow reading to Trig and Piper? She’s always loving on the little guy. I think in their family, Piper has pretty much decided she’s her little brothers caretaker.  That little boy is not resented by his siblings at all.

    The shows are set up to show specific adventures. They’re not set up to show a family hanging out at home interacting with each other all episode long.  Trig, even if he wasn’t special needs, is 2 years old. That’s not an age to take him salmon fishing, hunting, halibut fishing and rock climbing. So if the producers don’t show Trig prominently in episodes doesn’t mean he is not a cherished part of the family.   Parents work and leave their house and their kids in the hands of babysitters, nannies and day care providers 8, 10 or 12 hours a day. So Sarah has to work to help provide for her family and you begrudge her spending some hours a day doing so?   

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Apparently, “Guest” has not seen much of this series.  Sarah, and her children, are frequently shown together.  Not only does Sarah spend a lot of time with Trig, but his siblings love spending time with him.  And, I am pretty sure that “grey haired lady” was his GRANDMOTHER.  Since when is spending time with one’s grandparents a bad thing?  Don’t MANY working families have the grazndparents step in from time to time?

    Sheesh.  I swear, she really is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t…

    Oh – anad abt her v. The One.  She has WAY more administrative accomplishments to her name than he ever did when he was elected.  Why the DNC pushed this empty suit, this 100 day US Senator, on everyone is beyond me.  Someone was/is pulling the strings, that’s for sure (and not us – since the majority of us voted for Hillary.  But apparently, “democracy” is a foreign concept to the DNC now.).

  • donjo

    Sarah murdered a moose too stupid to know what was happening.  Six shots and it didn’t move.  Her crew probably could have driven the Range Rover right up to the moose so she could have put a bullet through an eye from a foot away, showing how great a marksman she is.  A moose died because Sarah needed the publicity and footage for her “reality” show.  I wonder if they include footage of her friends machine gunning wolves from a low-flying plane or helicopter.  These people aren’t hunters, they cold-blooded killers who kill for “sport,” and trophies, but not food.  There’s a difference between real hunters and this charade provided for the Discovery Channel.

  • AbigailAdams

    Katmoon:  I think you nailed it.  Sarah doesn’t need the left’s help.  She’s completely self-sustaining within her own family and community and not only doesn’t need a government hand-out, but probably wouldn’t take it if it were offered.  That’s how many of us feel and would like our country to return to.  And now she has a very popuar television show that reminds us of what Americans used to do before the government ate our brains and insinuated itself into every aspect of our lives.

    Can we imagine what we all could do if we didn’t have to think about the long list of permissions we’d have to get from some gov’t bureaucrat before doing them?

  • getfitnow

    I recall That One and his wife telling the people of Haiti they would not forget them. They LIED!! Have either said anything publicly aout the cholera outbreak. Perhaps I missed it. Anyway:
    http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/Samaritans_Purse_Today/post/sarah_palin_to_visit_haiti_with_franklin_graham/

  • NAN

    ‘Sarah is not about appearances but about bedrock’…LOL   The last election would call your statement a WHITE-LIE, remembering Sarah’s wardrobe and the gabage bags left outside her door waiting for the RNC to come them
    pick-up.  Maybe if you barrowed some of SARAH’S designer eyewear you might see HER FOR WHAT IS REALLY IS.  This woman is ONLY INTERESTED IN MONEY HONEY.  She has MADE MILLIONS.  

    Ya think if she were the Pres. she’d continue her campaign on FACEBOOK OR THE TWITTER VINE? 

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Your comments get more and more insane, donjo. Unless you are a strict vegetarian, you are a “murderer” by proxy every time you sit down to stuff your face. And if you’re a vegetarian who eats plants that might benefit hungry or starving animals in the wild, you are also potentially guilty of their “murder”.  If you are so concerned about wildlife, kindly do us a favor and refrain from eating at all.

    Oh, and stay in the shallow end of the gene pool where you belong–you know, at HuffyPo.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Whatever, NAN. I stand by my comment. I’d rather have Sarah and her perceived warts than That One and his pustulous, real warts.

  • yttik

    I love the smell of exploding trolls in the morning.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    I love the smell of exploding trolls in the morning.
    ==============================
    That would be the aromatic blend of putrescine and cadavarine.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    I love the smell of exploding trolls in the morning.  
    ==============================  
    That would be the aromatic blend of putrescine and cadaverine.

  • yttik

    It sounds like one of our guests is upset because Palin is not being properly “punished with a baby.” When the president said those words, it really clicked in my head how many times the liberal side of the aisle has tried to reinforce that attitude.

    If you have a child, you better be tied to that baby 24/7, miserable, poor, and begging us for food stamps. Heaven forbid you actually enjoy that child or do anything to become self sufficient. I hear the same thing about Bristol Palin, she isn’t properly being “punished with a baby.” She’s a single mom, she has no right to run off an earn a few hundred thousand dollars on DWTS! Everyone knows a “good mother” accepts her lot in life and remains dependant on the Dem party tossing a few crumbs her way.

  • creeper

    Here are a few pictures for you, guest…say, oh a couple hundred, give or take…of Sarah with Trig.  So much for neglect.

  • AbigailAdams

    Nan:  With all due respect, and after all, I don’t know you or your views well, I would strongly encourage you to get up to speed on who is occupying the D and R parties.  If I drew you a line graph, up ’til the 2010 mid-terms, both parties were sitting at about the same point in the graph — the Ds were well left of center and the Rs only slightly more right than that, but still definitely left of center on the scale.  The tea party, which now inhabits a significant portion of the Rs (because it wasn’t time to put a 3rd party on the national ballot) are decidedly right of center and the more conservative among us further right than that — maybe even just this side of what the left calls “anarchy”, but what the founders would recognize as their original intent.

    I disagree that the mid-terms were a “warning shot” to both parties.  It was an opening salvo on our war against government gone bezerk.  It’s not “their mess,” either.  It’s our mess, because we weren’t paying attention to our government.  Maybe I’m using different words than yours, but meaning the same things.  There’s no way to clean up the mess, whether it was from several years ago or several decades ago.  We must simply replace anyone in gov’t who isn’t on board with the idea that we have a constitution for a reason and that the people want it to be able to rely on those we elect to protect, defend and submit to its authority — not their own.  

  • Tamara Cracker

    She’s as smart as a wolf, that woman.  Good points, Seattlegonz.

  • Linda

    Hallelujah! :)

  • creeper

    Idiot.  A moose died so Sarah Palin and her family could eat.

    Donjo, you’ve finally lost it completely.

  • yttik

    It’s really true. Elections are more about how you make people feel, rather than policies or campaign promises. That’s kind of a scary reality to face, but people don’t really remember the words you say, they remember how you make them feel. In 2008 Obama made people feel all warm and fuzzy about how post racial they were. He also made dumb people feel like they were smarter than everybody else.

    Well two years later, everybody is feeling pretty much like crap, about themselves, about their country, their future. And those who temporary believed they had all the answers are starting to realize they were played for suckers.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    remembering Sarah’s wardrobe and the gabage bags left outside her door waiting for the RNC to come them  pick-up. 

    Oh but let’s forget above the 1000,s of American flags thrown out around the TRASH cans in Denver. If “O” was this new shining light on the hill, his team of organizers sure got it all right? Maybe you need to borrow Sarah’s glasses!
     
    One of the greatest assets of Sarah’s personality is that regardless what the left throw at her she continues to go forward. She is comfortable with herself; after organizing her own family knows exactly which direction she is going and would do exactly the same for the country!
    Funny, who said “”And my view is that if you can’t run your own house, you certainly can’t run the White House.”
    Michelle Obama? Yep, we can see how well that’s working out for us all on daily basis.
    A Palin Christmas sounds a great deal better than an Obama Christmas!!!!

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    You’re correct, Abigail. The 2010 elections represent the initial skirmish in the war against government excess, progressive claptrap, and the New World Order.

  • ces

    What’s next, instead of elections we have Presidential Celebrity Wipe-Out™ to see who wins?

    This media driven attempt at selling a personal Brand is ridiculous. It got us oBlunder and could get us someone just as image-savvy, but just as incapable of making real progress in DC.

    Re: Paiin, specifically, I find it offensive that these boys want to watch the Palin show because they find her daughter “hot”. So, we want potential voters to be interested in the sex appeal, instead of what policies the candidate would pursue?

    Having some kid barely out of puberty voting for the hot candidate would be as bad as some black kid voting for Obama solely because he looks black.

    [Disclosure: As many of you know, I don't like Palin because of her many of her political stances and policies, not 'cuz she's a woman who can fire a gun.]

    Ok, let the tired ces-pool jokes fly, but that’s my opinion…

  • lorac

    yttk, just fyi for what it’s worth – actually it’s the other way around.  Societies have traditionally lived off what they grew in the land – everyone could afford to plant seeds.  When the elite of a country got more money, they started eating meat.  As the country itself prospered more, everyone started being able to eat meat. 

    The US is a more affluent country, and even the poor eat meat – at every meal – but another factor is that the meat industry is highly subsidized by the goverment.  If it weren’t, it would be a lot more expensive to buy meat, and once again you would see only the people with more money eating meat.  If you check out the history of countries and their development, you’ll see that meat has historically been associated with the affluent, not the masses.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    So true, ~~JustMe~~. I like her because she gives a righteous finger of defiance to her detractors. I’d vote for her in a New York nanosecond.

  • Tamara Cracker

    Ferd, Nan will be sure to fill her 16 year son with hate for Sarah Palin. 
    That’s what the Left does best:  spread hate and venom.

  • Tamara Cracker

    I refer to them as generation “awesome”.  The most annoying, overused word for things that are anything BUT awesome.

  • guest

    Agreed. What has Sarah Palin done in the last two years to change the perception that she has little knowledge about foreign policy issues?

    She has chosen the celebrity route to the White House. And I don’t think it will help get her there.

    Although she states in her commercials, I’d rather be out here bein’ free than in some stuffy political office,” it’s looking more and more likely she’ll trade in the Alaskan wilderness to campaign for the ultimate stuffy political office, the Oval Office.

  • Linda

    BRAVA, AA!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    One more thing NAN. Sarah is organizing bringing people together at the grass roots level, which is what you call a personal connection she has on Facebook and twitter.
     
    Let’s not forget how a community organizer connected!

    No comparison really?

  • texasdemocrat

    All I know is that if it took her six shots…and they showed it took her six shots….then the thing was REAL.  Cause if they wanted to build up Sarah she would have made the ‘shot of a lifetime’.  One shot.
    I like her….she is real, refreshing…not bought and paid for.   And I never hold it against anyone who finds a way to make money…(if it’s legal and it’s not coming out of my pocket).

  • ~~JustMe~~

    One more thing NAN. Sarah is organizing bringing people together at the grass roots level, which is what you call a personal connection she has on Facebook and twitter.  
       
    Let’s not forget how a community organizer connected! 
     

    No comparison really?

  • Liinda

    Oh, you poor thing.  donjo, dontchaknow, you DON’T know which argument to even make.  Just rattling off all different attacks of no merit make no sense.   We give you donjo.  She “murdered” rofl…..”6 shots and she couldn’t even it hit it”…..so is she a bad hunter…good murderer, bad murder  murderer, bad hunter?  Gee which one should we go with. LOL

    So, are we to learn from these exchanges, that you choose not to murder any food, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, strawberries, herbs, fish, seafood, meat (ie dog, chicken, cat, moose, horse)  And your brain has no nutrients and has turned to liquid?

  • yttik

    Oh good grief! A couple of boys at Larry’s house thinking the governor’s daughter is hot, is certainly not “offensive.”

    R-i-g-h-t, you don’t object to Palin just because she’s a woman and yet you’re worried people might vote for her based on sex appeal alone, as if that’s all she has to offer. Palin is not a brand, unlike President Obama, she has an actual record of accomplishments and clear policies that back her up. You try to have it both ways, you don’t like her because of her “many political stances and policies” and yet you try to reduce her to nothing but a brand with sex appeal that’s going to seduce people into voting for her just because she’s “hot.” That’s some pretty blatent sexism, right there.

    By the way, candidates have used sex appeal since the beginning of time. The media fawning over Obama’s “glistening muscles and dew kissed skin” everytime he got off the basketball court actually started to get embarassing. Bill Clinton didn’t even require the media’s help, he simply oozes the stuff. George Bush went off to clear brush. John Edwards had 400 dollar hair cuts. And John Kerry? Well, poor guy, he sure tried.

  • momule

    Ferd – you crack me up! Are you as peppery face to face as your written remarks are? With those salty posts you perhaps should switch to a saltine. I don’t know how this site would work if everyone was a blunt as you and Larry, but you certainly get the old circulation going. I have to remember the shallow end crack, I can think of a few folk to use it on.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    That “One shot” is coming in 2012!

  • yttik

    “Sarah murdered a moose too stupid to know what was happening.  Six shots and it didn’t move.”

    You’re upset because the moose wasn’t alert, terrified, and spending several hours panicked about being tracked and hunted?? And you think hunters are cruel??

    By the way, that’s a caribou.

  • Linda

    And see, I’ve been a vegan since….32 years.   However, I used to still eat fish, even though that has pretty much ground to a halt.  But I wear leather and I have leather furniture.  It is also MY CHOICE (something liberals hate.  They want to tell you how you should live and attack you if you do something different than they do).  Even not eating meat, I have respect for those who actually eat what they kill.  Much better than the hypocrisy of most others.  And, these cowards that dare not live in the environment that Alaskans live in, so they can pretend to live off the land, but not eat meat, wear leather, buy leather, glue etc  so they can put themselves on a pedestal that only like minds thiink should be on tjat pedestal? lol

  • JB in VA

    It wasn’t a moose! Don’t let the horns and Sorkin’s uninformed, virtually unintelligible screed fool you. It was a caribou stag. 

  • seattlegonz

    Actually she’s putting out policy messages quite frequently. It’s apparent you’re just reciting the talking points and don’t really know whether or not they’re true. You’re being used you know…think for yourself. Listen to politicians speak on their own, read what they write…do more than recite the crap that other people say.

    I wasn’t a Hillary supporter until I watched and listened to her speak. Until I got past the so-called media and all the lies they told and tell. She’s remarkable, and so is Sarah. But, it’ll be tough for either of them because misogyny and sexism and emasculated men are so threatened by these strong, smart women that they become obsessed with taking them down.

  • Jackie

    “I neither liked nor voted for Bush but he is not the issue any longer because what he did is no longer relevant.”

    It’s completely relevant.  You originally claimed that “In the progressive world, we cower in line in airports while being serially irradiated or sexually molested by a government run amuck”, conveniently omitting the fact that all of these security measures were put in place in the prior, non-progressive Bush administration.  NAN simply called you on it.  It’s relevant, all right.

  • guest

    When she stops giving answers like this I’ll start keeping a more open mind.  
     
     
    Glenn Beck: “Sarah, you said in the last few days that you are considering a run for president, and, uh, polls show that you would probably win the Republic nomination. How would you handle a situation like just developed in North Korea”    
       
    Sarah Palin: “Well North Korea, this is stemming from, I think, a greater problem when we’re all sittin’ around asking, oh no, what are we gonna do, and we’re not having a lotta’ faith that the White House is gonna come out with a strong enough policy to, um, sanction what it is that North Korea is gonna do. So this speaks to a bigger picture that certainly scares me in terms of our national security policies. But, um, obviously, um, stand with our North Korean allies, we’re bound to by treaty..”    
       
    Glenn Beck: “South Korean”    
       
    Sarah Palin: “Yeah, we’re also bound by prudence to stand with our South Korean allies, yeah. And uh to remind North Korea we’re not gonna reward bad behavior and we’re not gonna walk away, and we do need to press China to do more to increase pressure on that arena….”  

  • rosa

    My sister is a hunter ,a real hunter, not from helicopters or with a entourage , she also raises her own cattle and chickens,  pigs, free range, ,shes tough and does her own carpentry, barn work , breaking horses , raising dogs,  cuts her own wood, builds things all by herself, and works for a national parkand oh, she can cook, and I would love to see sarah go up against her.          Oh, she has been confronted in the park by grizzly and buffalo. without a protective group standing by,. She is a real person not like this media hound. 

              The msnbc and cnn really helped build her by the constant negative press, we know they are stupid , but come on, with three main cable shows and other media bringing her name up all day it sticks in peoples brains , just like american idol and dancing with the stars.. other “reality shows”.    isn’t it fox that has those programs?   mind numbing!

           I object to sarah , because like obama { i don’t care how much he learns, hes done} ,  she needs time to become more of everything that takes to run a country.  You never hear me call her sexists names etc.   just don’t want another inexperienced person in the white house , like i said before , ten years is enough for practice candidates, our country is in a huge crisis!! and I am definately saying obama is not the right person or qualified in this , as many say i support him which i do not!  don’t really care, but its tiresome when you pick parts of what people say to suit the bashing here.

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    yep, she just needs a little polish on the speaking skills.  Everythiing else is fine the way it is.

  • Amy Siskind

    Right on Larry!

  • ces

    yttik,

    I don’t like when people vote on cosmetic grounds, whether it’s giving a good speech or having good aim with a rifle. 

    This Palin show certainly *is* branding. Those antlers might as well be gleaming pillars of styrofoam. I dislike both. 

    I’m not having it both ways. But it would appear you are: it’s ok for DWTS and P’s AK highlights a certain image, but it’s not ok for the media to show brush clearing, hair cuts, etc. You made my point, I think….the whole branding of presidential candidates is offensive. The only difference here is who controls the message, a made-for-tv ‘promotional’ series or so-called ‘news’ bits about a person’s grooming habits. It’s all media distortion.

    We should be judging (potential and actual) candidates on their accomplishments, their values and their stated goals. And that is the ONLY ways I judge Gov. Palin. If you like her values and goals, great. I can’t argue against YOU liking it, but I would argue against some of the goals themselves.

  • rosa

    remember  color alerts  !

  • rosa

    And why are we giving her a pass because shes won’t talk to anyone that can ask her real questions. Just because obama got a pass, does not mean we should be still handing them out to others.

  • Docelder

    Not forget about Haiti? That is a joke. These people already forgot who elected them. I am not sure they ever knew really. Maybe they thought they were elected because of future greatness… or future potential greatness. I mean we all could be so great I guess… given a billion dollards to run for POTUS with and enough media zealots behind us… at least we could fake greatness until push came to shove. So hell, I guess we are all as great or greater as the Obamas truth be told.

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    Nan, why don’t you go get some lessons on grammar and pronunuciation before criticizing a Governor who helped conservatives win the mid terms.

  • BIINKY

    And, excuse me, but weren’t the Democrats on board with every action that took place after 9-11?  Let’s please keep the facts straight.  And, during the primary, when BO said he would vote against the Patriot Act, who placed his vote FOR the act when it came up?  Yep, BO.

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    Liberals typically are the WORST parents so who are they to criticize Gov. Palin.  PULEEEZZZE TROLLS..are you really that STUPID? Yep, probably.

  • Docelder

    The Palins are real people. This scares the hell out of all the plastic politicians and the people who prop them up to be the brands they are. As it should. This is a country full of real people after all. Washington would like to ignore that, but it’s not going away.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    I just call them as I see them, momule, and I see Donjo as a troll in need of a bridge and a few billygoats, although in a pinch NQ will do for him/her/it.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    You said it, JB.  And, the only reason she missed was because the sight on her dad’s rifle had gotten messed up.

    But yeah – by all means, don’t bother to watch it and see for yourself, just take some irrational rant based on incorrect information for talking points.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Again, she only missed because the sights were off on the rifle (it was her dad’s rifle, and he had fallen down previously while carrying it).  When she used her friend’s rifle, it did only take her one shot to sight and shoot.

    I don’t eat meat myself (just fish and poultry), and haven’t for 36 yrs, so this was hard for me to watch.  I have deer in my yard every single night.  But – I do not begrudge hunters the right to hunt food to put on their tables.  As she said, it is organic, free range, and necessary to go hunting to maintain healthy populations for generations to come.

  • Jackie

    And, excuse me, but weren’t the Democrats on board with every action that took place after 9-11?  Let’s please keep the facts straight.  And, during the primary, when BO said he would vote against the Patriot Act, who placed his vote FOR the act when it came up?  Yep, BO.”

    I am as jaded and pissed off at the Democrats cowardice in the wake of 9/11 as anyone.  Let’s just not re-write history as Ferd was attempting and claim these were “progressive” initiatives.  They were initiatives developed and rammed through by a war-mongering, executive-worshipping, neoconservative administration over the tepid, disorganized, incompetent, and sometimes non-existent objections of a cowardly Democratic opposition.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    Whatever, troll. I have never taken you seriously because you have nothing of suvstance to say. You merely take comments out of context, add your own shallow dreck, and then disappear. Now if you would only disappear permanently. Do rejoin your herd at huffypoo, Bossie.

  • stodghie

    hey nan, you aren’t very good at being a bitch. :*

  • stodghie

    guest you are an idiot. sarah spends lots of time with her child. come on chris matthews, fess up. we know you by your pathetic style.

  • Linda

    ruh roh RRRA, there ya’ go again dealin’ in facts. Libs don’t want you to speak truth or reality.  That don’t fit their talking points or agenda…deceive then steal.

  • stodghie

    hey nan, READ MY WORDS SARAH PALIN WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. SO START PACKING!

  • wodiej crackerdawg

    the trolls need some new talking points from the White House.

  • stodghie

    guest, you are jealous because sarah has more XXXX than the other one.

  • trixta

    Not everyone is cut out for the vegetarian life … I was a vegan for four years and lost my health in the process.  I do much better now with moderate amounts of animal protein, etc.  Anything in excess is not a good thing, IMHO.  

  • trixta

    Who’s in charge now?  Who has both houses and the executive branch?  Why does it feel like we’re living WGB’s third term?  

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

     Let’s just not re-write history as Ferd was attempting and claim these were “progressive” initiatives
    ============
    You are not only an insufferable obamabot, you’re also incapable of comprehending what you read. I stand by my comment that your master, That One, is not only continuing the policies of Bush but has augmented them with government-sponsored molestation and because of such, HE is the problem and not Bush (and so are you, I might add).

    I would venture to say however, that you like That One’s policy and would probably stand in line twice at the airport to get that *special* treatment.

  • trixta

    Facebooking and twittering would be better than going on lavish vacations, partying, and playing golf.  At least SP’s communiques would not cost taxpayers a dime and it would show her interest in communicating with the people.   Some Presidents choose fireside radio chats; SP would choose twitter and facebook.

  • Lady Cracker

    There you are!!  I agree!  And it turns out (you probably know by now) that the scope was knocked off mark when her Daddy took the HEADER down that small hill (and then popped up like a cute ever ready battery bunny)  LOL it is the best show on TV in years!  I will be SAD to see it go once she runs for and probably WINS the 2012 election!  LOVE watching them!  CIC work will be so boring for us and them probably!

  • Docelder

    Simple minds, simple pleasures… that pretty much sums up the White House’s base. They would function equally without a higher brain at all. Which is good, because they won’t use the higher brain they were born with. They remain stuck at a primal levels. The White House rubs these folks raw at every chance… and they never disappoint.

  • trixta

    Piper reminds me of myself as a little girl who was totally captivated by her baby sister.  I loved taking care of her and playing with her for hours at a time.

  • JB in VA

    yeah, what’s with all the anti-palin garbage today? Is it because Sarah’s down in Haiti helping cholera victims in a virtual war zone, and The One can’t even handle the washington press corps?

  • Lady Cracker

    WOOHOOOOOO YAH BABY YAH!!!  W00T!  =-X 8-) ;)

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    yeah, what’s with all the anti-palin garbage today?
    =================================
    The problem is that the drool-bucket-toting obamabots can’t fathom real people performing real acts for real reasons. They live in a twilight world where shadows on basement walls represent all they have ever and will ever know. It’s pitiful.

  • Ferd Ritz Cracker Berfle

    By the way–thank you, LJ, for writing this timely anad appropriate essay. You’re a brave man to post it, especially considering some of the abject idiocy I’ve seen posted here today.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    By the way–thank you, LJ, for writing this timely and appropriate essay. You’re a brave man to post it, especially considering some of the abject idiocy I’ve seen posted here today.

  • trixta

    It wasn’t a moose; it was a caribou, donjo.  Once SP switched rifles, she shot it clean killing it instantaneously.  She took the meat home and put it her freezer. 
    I guess you would also characterize the hunting of game by the native Eskimos as “murdering” too.

  • TeakWoodKite

    It is very ironic to hear guest say, “a womans place is in the home”. ie…doesn’t spend enough time with her kids….

    Nan and Jackie saying ya can’t have it both ways? LOL very funny.

    The first week broke a record and it has gone down after that but to LJ’s point of demographics….

    MediaBistro.com gave exact numbers as 4.96 million, further breaking down the viewership as 1.8 million adults ages 25-54 and 1.6 million adults 18-49, key demographics for the reality-centric channel.

  • snosandy

    Sarah did not request the wardrobe.  And how about the picture of her standing in line at a Walmart on the campaign trail buying store brand diapers???

  • ces

    Actually, I have heard her talking points, thus not liking her as a candidate. See how that works? I find it interesting that the assumption is that if someone doesn’t support her as a candidate, we’re just uninformed or sexist. Haven’t we heard the same crap from the oBots? I’m informed, but also happen to disagree with her on enough points to not get caught up in the media storm around her — one way or the other.

    And I’m not interested in “taking her down”, but I’m not at all interested in her as a presidential candidate, either. 

  • trixta

    Guest thinks mothers should be barefoot in the kitchen and have their children grafted to their hip.  Mothers should not do or think about anything else but mothering their children.      

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Those who dislike hunting need to take a tour of an abattoir. I do believe minds would be changed rather quickly.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Don’t MANY working families have the grandparents step in from time to time?

    The federal gov even has a web page dedicated to this.

    For some interesting facts as of 2000…
    United States: Around 5.8 million households
    have a grandparent in the home. Another way
    to look at it, there are 2.4 million households
    headed solely by grandparents. In 2000, 52% of
    grandparents rearing grandchildren (GRG) were
    below the age of 55. Another 31% were between
    the ages of 55 and 64. Seventeen percent of
    grandparents rearing grandchildren were 65 years
    old or older.

  • Lady Cracker

    Can we move the White House to Alaska?  Or perhaps a NEW Vantage point for our country from the TOP looking DOWN!  That would get RUSSIA all wee wee’d up!  lmao

  • ~~JustMe~~

    snosandy, these people cannot remember what they ate for dinner last night, how can we expect them to actually store information from 2008?

  • Lady Cracker

    She (Sarah) seems to bring out the MAN in most MEN and the WOMEN of most WOMEN!  and she shines a light on those that are merely boys and girls in their little jealous hole in the wall NY or LA.  She has that ability.

  • trixta

    It wasn’t a moose; it was a caribou, donjo.  Once SP switched rifles, she shot it clean, killing it instantaneously.  She took the meat home and put it her freezer.   End of story.
    I guess you would also characterize the hunting of game by the native Eskimos as “murder” too.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I was shocked the other day when Obama JUST LEFT for a christmas party and left Bill Clinton to handle HIS news conference. 

    You are shocked, Nan?

    Since I have not seen any of your comments to form an opinion of where you are in the political spectrum, with respect, I am curious to know WHY you are shocked.

  • Helen

    Thanks everyone for defending Gov. Palin.  You are doing so well I have nothing to add.  Love the dialogue 

  • seattlegonz

    Ces, I was writing to guest who claimed that Sarah doesn’t speak out on foreign policy or anything of political substance. That’s a flat out lie or mistake, I’m not sure which.

    If you listen to candidates, in their own words, and have opinions about them, well of course you’re entitled and I’d respect your opinion. If you make sexist comments or make comments that show that you’re repeating talking points without merit, like guest repeating the ridiculous “north korea” mistake by Palin, then I’ll (and others here) will recognize you or others as talking-point trolls or as sexist idiots.

    As I said, that comment wasn’t meant for you, and I totally accept that many non-sexist, knowledgeable people would prefer another candidate over Palin. I myself would, as I’ve said, vote Hillary over Palin anytime. But, I’ll also defend Palin against ridiculous comments like the ones made by guest.

  • Madame deFarge

    The fact that Sarah does it with lipstick and mascara doesn’t hurt either.  She’s a rare combination. 

    I’ll just bet the teens are drawn to the fact that the Palin’s treat one another with respect, speak to each other like adults and the whole family participates in activities together.  They may choose not to hunt caribou, fish or run for President…but what a life the Palins are giving their children.  I’d also be willing to bet that teens are much more accepting of Sarah’s choice to keep Trig…and I’ll bet too they think he’s cute and sweet.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Well said. Excellent point.

  • getfitnow

    Yes, and remember when she said  the presidency should not be an experiment of self discovery! BAM, thank you, Mama Grizzly!

  • sybilll

    I don’t think Sarah would call in Phyllis Schaffly to finish a press conference.  That’s the difference.
    Great story Larry. 

  • Linda

    Well, shoot, I’m more and more inclining to move there, considering the idiots I keep running across.  It took me 1/2 to buy something with only one person before me in line.  And, I had to go back 2 more times to the register for her to get it right.  Hubby laughed. 4 receipts for  stick glue, rubber cement and pkg of penciles.  OY VEY!.  I’ve resolved, if I have to put up with sub freezing temps and THIS WIND, I much prefer cold and NO WIND.  So, Alaska keeps notching up on my list. :)

  • Madame deFarge

    As far as I’m concerned love of country should be the first qualification for public office.  If that isn’t actively there (in action, not posing), the rest is irrelevant.

  • Madame deFarge

    It was obvious that Sorkin wrote a hit piece without watching the program.  Shameful.

  • seattlegonz

    Yeah, it’s so confusing to me the way people relate to caribou but not to fish or insects or rats or mice. If one of the outraged had a rat infestation I’m guessing they’d call in an exterminator without a second thought. If a coyote came down from the hollywood hills and ate one of those purse dogs, I’m guessing it would be excitedly taken down by whatever means necessary. And, aren’t these the same people who buy purebred dogs and cats instead of rescuing the animals that will surely be put down for lack of a good home??

    Hypocrisy…Palin has succeeded in getting the caricature of the liberal elite to be claimed by the left as the best way to be: effete, arrogant, elitist, and hypocritical.

    Without Hillary, liberals won’t have a chance at power again for the next 50 years.

  • Madame deFarge

    Indeed, Trixta.  My old Indian Guru used to point out that not everyone should be a vetetarian…especially from a social fad standpoint…but to eat “what you digest”.  He often said it could be a shock for generations of meat eaters to switch to a radically different diet.  Even in Auyrvedic medicine (5,000 yr old Indian holistic system), people with slight builds, who seem to favor and desire raw salads, etc., sometimes need to add some chicken to their diet…they can get too ethereal without some grounding food.

    yttik…not applying this to anyone in particular.  I don’t have much meat in my diet but when I feel like it, I do.  Mostly fish for me…but now you have to stagger eating that because of mercury contamination.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Have you ever shot a moose, Donjo? Have you been up close and personal?

    Do you know that if you  happen to encounter one they are more likely to charge you than not? Try getting one to move of the trail your on. Good luck.

    I have. So much mental moose meat, so little time.

  • susiepuma

    Sarah shot a CARIBOU – damm – if you’re gonna keep complaining & bitching – at least try to get your information correct – of course, I realize this is an impossiblity because the talking points are sent to all the obots each day and since you apparently have trouble reading & writing, I can see why your posts are incoherent – sure am glad that this current bunch of progressive elitists (mostly undereducated or uneducated INO) are only about 10% or so of the population

    Can I say – we win, you lose??????????????????

  • guest

    Oh, wait ! Go to the Obama web site and judge for yourself how intelligently he is able to think on his feet, articulate the depth of any issue and take a spontaneous non-scripted question or two without parroting talking points, slogans and platitudes.  It speaks volumes. Really.

    From back in the day….Sound familiar ?? ;)

  • getfitnow

    I like your words, AA! :-D

  • ctfsh

    They tested college graduates on basic knowledge of civics and at the end of college their knowledge had actually decreased. BHO was perfect for the “achieveatron” set who took few risks in life but just did what the elites said. We just saw “Inside Job” the other night and it shows how academic institutions (Harvard, Cal Berkeley) do not require their professors to disclose financial conflicts of interest when publishing papers on a particular subject. What gall! The right should embrace this film as they’re always harping on academia.

  • Madame deFarge

    Let’s not allow Jackie and the Bots to change the subject and as she usually does, hijack the thread.  This is about Sarah, Larry’s post and not about GWB and the Repubs.

    Gotta go walk Tallulah.  Catch you later.

  • ctfsh

    What Palin gets is we have become so removed from risk in life that we’re starved. So many kids grow up in front of little screens and see the world from the back seat of their parents’ minivan and don’t get to see if they can survive without all this institutional “safety” that is actually choking us while promising us life. They’re both bored and scared. It is probably thrilling to watch the Palins kill the moose that could feed that big family for an entire winter. Today’s kids are probably also sick of the Jersey Shore set that just consumes and does not give back to society.

  • Madame deFarge

    Seems to me that the Palin kids are with Sarah, Todd, Sarah and Todd or grandparents.  I didn’t notice any paid babysitters.

  • yttik

    People should be aware that Palin sites and Palin herself are being targeted by wikileak supporters in their cyber war.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/12/exclusive-palin-under-cyber-attack-from-wikileaks-supporters-in-operation-payback.html

  • Madame deFarge

    I think we have ourselves a  concern troll here.

  • seattlegonz

    Rosa, the answer is because she’s politically smart and as long as there isn’t an honest press-corp there’s no value in going in front of obama’s minions to have one’s message distorted. She’s actually in front of media all the time…she’s just not playing obama’s game and you know how infuriating that is for him.

    Without a free an independent press we can’t depend on “interviews” to get at the truth at all.

  • getfitnow

    I wonder, yttik, he made them feel warm and fuzzy. some dems voted for him because he was the nominee. They would never vote for a republican. But, I believe most voted for him because of his color. They jumped on that historic bandwagon and rode it for all it was worth. I just wonder how they really feel now. My gut tells me many African Americans are disappointed too, but, sadly, most will not admit it and would vote for him again.

  • Madame deFarge

    donjo.  Guessing you read Sorkin rather than watching the program.  She didn’t shoot a “moose”…I’m not going to give you the answer, you’ll have to look it up yourself.  Do that much at least, silly.

  • getfitnow

    I wonder, yttik, if he made them feel warm and fuzzy. Some dems voted for him because he was the nominee. They would never vote for a republican, no matter what. But, I believe most voted for him because of his color. They jumped on that “historic” bandwagon and rode it for all it was worth. I just wonder how they really feel now. My gut tells me many African Americans are disappointed too, but, sadly, most will not admit it and would vote for him again.

  • Lady Cracker

    again shining a light on their  being HUGE hypocrites!!  Their biggest DONKEY VALUE is supposed to be FREEDOM OF THE PRESS yet they continue to TRY and shut down speech that doesn’t back up their ostrich dreams (nightmares for most of us)  huge unethical FREAKS of some OTHER nature!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    What gets me is that those who supported Obama said not word one abt his suits.  What, do they think he got them at Men’s Warehouse?  Yeah, right.  And what abt all the clothes Michelle was given?  Do you think she gave them to charity the way the RNC did with the Palin clothes?  Again, yeah, right.

  • Judith Weingarten

    She knows zilch about caribou hunting.  Take it from a pro: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2010/12/barbie-the-caribou-killer.html

  • ces

    Got it seattlegonz…sorry, this comment system gets me like that from time to time. Thanks for the thoughtful follow-up.

    And yup, we’re all human, so pulling one blunder out as proof someone is stupid or wrong is just as bad.

  • Breeze

    -  
     
    Joy Behar, Narnia Numbskull  
     
    NewsBusters,  
    by Tim Graham     
     
    Original Article  
     
    12/11/2010  
     
    On Thursday’s edition of The View, Joy Behar displayed how little she knows Sarah Palin’s favorite authors. As they discussed Palin’s answer to Barbara Walters asking what she reads, and Walters said Palin reads C.S. Lewis for “divine inspiration,” Behar asked “Aren’t those children’s books?”

    She wasn’t joking, but she obviously liked the idea that Palin wasn’t smart enough to read “adult books.”

    The Narnia books aren’t exactly Dr. Seuss. Behar isn’t educated enough to know about his classic works of nonfiction in Christian apologetics, like Mere Christianity and The Screwtape Letters.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Wow Judith, what a find! A PDS site populated with hate filled Palin critics. How extraordinarily unique. Shouldn’t you wander back there, where you clearly belong?

  • TeakWoodKite

    It was a caribou stag,

    The only thing these folks can conceive of is a “dear in the headlights”

  • TeakWoodKite

    I don’t find myself inclined to vote for Palin, mostly ’cause I would never hear the end of it from my sanehalf, but it may end up that, I make that small sacrifice, if it is a choice between Obama and Palin.

  • elsie

    The Palins are so good looking and good looks really appeal to regular, breathing normal Americans.  Kardashians and Kate plus 8 wont have regular following if they are not pretty.  Unfortunately for America, that the the future and I am pretty sure the more Sarah wear skirts instead of pant suits (no offense meant for my favorite politician, HRC).. the more she will become appealing to the voters…You think?

  • rosa

    Seattle,
    I agree with many of your views but not this one, what would happen if everyone only went on those that agree with them ,obama even went on oreilly.and a few others ,but do we want future leaders to be cowardly and hide from them?   Its good training for her  to learn how to handle opposition if she wants to be president. what will she do then?

    I get that she is politically smart,she has the whole fox team helping her, but she is only in front of the limited press, the ones that don’t ask hard questions. obama ‘s team was politically smart  but not ethical,, so it just doesn’t do  it for me that she is politically smart . We need great  knowhow in this world we live in . I paid attention when she first came on the scene with an open mind , I was and am  really angry about what happened in the primary and the general, but I still don’t see she is ready . As I have said so many times we don’t have time for training  anymore for anyone ten years is enough.  Besides many of the Alaskans  have different views of her ,same as any candidate but like obama they are absent on fox.mostly.
       I agree about the press, but it is same for everyone, if they don’t agree with you ,thats why we need to fight for fair, honest reporting.  I think CNN and MSNBC thought i was some kind of freak because I used to call them so often to complain but fox did not have an option for that.

  • TeakWoodKite

    and not that a “city person” liberal would know the difference between a moose a caribou stag and a dear in the headlights…..

  • TeakWoodKite

    Pick apart?

    So you expect a person with critical thinking skills to swallow it whole?

    Bash? naw mate it is just kangaroo meat.

  • ces

    I hear that for sure, Teak. I’m old enough to realize the importance of history and patience, but young enough to have hope that the pendulum will come back from the extremes once and awhile.

    If only Hilary would run again as a primary challenger and get the big backing this time. This is why I don’t want the GOP/TP to stall/filibuster too much. It would give ammo to left-leaning backers to back oBlunder again. If O ‘compromises’ too many times, it could open the door to a real primary challenger. What I’m afraid of though, is that the GOP/TP will go too strong, allowing oBlunder to ALL the dem support and win back some of the moderates. When the GOP/TP are perceived as the party of big biz backed “no”, they lose the all important Middle.

    Btw, cheers to you and yours, TeakWoodKite!

  • TeakWoodKite

    I will cede the point that Gov. Palin may not have done much visual marketing of her foreign policy growth, but Sarah Palin is first and foremost focused on it as it relates to DOMESTIC issues.

    And on a comparative level, I do not think she will be traveling abroad giving speeches apologizing for America anytime soon.

    The Daily Beast has learned that Sarah Palin will be traveling overseas in the new year. At the top of the list: Israel and England, both countries she has said she wanted to travel to in the past. The schedule and itinerary is still fluid, but an overseas trip in 2011 will boost her foreign policy credentials, something she can turn to in a potential 2012 presidential run.
    Up to now Palin’s travel outside of North America includes visiting troops in Germany and Kuwait while she was governor and last year she gave a speech on the economy in Hong Kong

  • TeakWoodKite

    You know…those same troops that BO wanted to use as a photo op until the military educated him.

  • Linda

    Remember, the Nobel committee embarrassed themselves by giving Barry the “not so Nobel Peace Prize” for just getting elected and not doing a damn thing.  Now, no one even wants to mention “Nobel Peace Prize”…except Barry, in terms of himself, because Barry has done the complete opposite.  lol

  • MrX

    Better hope she doesn’t run.  If Palin runs in 2012, she wins.  The eyeores are trying to say that they like her, but don’t think she’s ready to be President.  This is a ploy by both the left and the Republican establishment.  Problem is that the media couldn’t do anything against her.  The left is self destructing.  And the Republican establishment has been left all to itself to try and get rid of Palin.  The reason they’re scared of her is because she’s intelligent and knows how to win.  After the Republican RINO’s have had their say, she will have no more opponents.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The Bull Moose party?

  • MrX

    Murdered?  Have you seen the meat in supermarkets?  Yes, they come from animals.  I know it’s unbelievable, but I swear it’s true.  Meat really does come from animals.  So if Sarah had bought her meat at the supermarket, someone would still need to have killed that animal.  Sarah just showed us that she’s able to it herself and not live with the smug satisfaction that if someone else does the job, then you don’t get blamed.  She’s proactive.  She’ll step up and get things done and take responsibility for her actions.

  • Breeze

    -

    FROM THE COMMENTS:
    Joy was supposed to be an English teacher?

    Submitted by drsamherman
    on Sat, 12/11/2010 – 12:50pm.

    The woman does not seem to know that C. S. Lewis used metaphor, allegory and symbolism to advance his views on Christian theology and the nature of God.  The witches, magic and talking animals are all consistent with the ancient story telling that Lewis used.  In Joy’s ignorant viewpoint, anything that involves a message not originating in the Bronx or outside of the Hudson Valley below West Point is just written for kids because she can’t understand it.

    http://www.cslewis.org – the C. S. Lewis Foundation website – has a fascinating overview on the author and their mission derived from his works.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/12/11/joy-behar-narnia-numbskull#ixzz17wAIjK8i

  • guest

    The mix-up isn’t the issue. I was listening to the John Bachalor show a few weeks ago and one of his “smart, sophisticated guests” was talking about the Korean situation, and made the same slip Sarah did.  
     
    Even without that, it was her entire really shallow, amateurish response. She really needs to do a LOT better than that if she’s going to become a serious presidential contender. Why conservatives, of all people, would excuse such shallowness is beyond me. So much is always on the line in every presidential election, but 2012 looks to be extraordinarily critical. I’m waiting for Palin to demonstrate unequivocally that she’s no lightweight. Having conservative views is a good start, but by no means enough. We should be demanding more of all the candidates, not excusing their weaknesses.

  • TeakWoodKite

    back at ya cheers…

    To use the visual metaphor of BO abandoning the podium, (the field) he is not to be re-elected.

    Hillary is done. That is not to say she will not remain a political force to be reckoned with. As far as the Tea Party movement, what is not discussed much is the advent of the Tea Party is not an exclusively right wing force. In fact, I dare say what the MSM has done is to shape the co-opting of the Tea Party as a singularly conservative force. It isn’t.
     The moderates that supported BO in 08 are not sticking their nose under that tent in 2012. Many center democrats, who now are independents, are fiscally conservative but socially liberal and on that score Obama has failed miserably in retaining an ability to speak to that part of the political spectrum.

    I have been contemplating the use of traingulation as it relates to Alinksy’s “methods”. I am not sure that they are compatible. This can can be confirmed by the recent appearance of President Clinton on the podium and BO leaving to drink and make merry. One can not triangulate what one has alieninated.

    Just as Nixon said ” I am not a crook”, I am not a hostage, nor will I ever be as long as I can straighten up and fly right …or shoot straight.

  • PssttCmere

    Larry:  Makes me feel like there is hope for the next generation….

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • PssttCmere

    wodiej:  Sarah is down to earth, resourceful, can cook, is smart, loving, nurturing, not afraid to get her hands dirty and I can see where any guy would be attracted to those qualities.  AND, she cleans up pretty good… 8-)

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • TeakWoodKite

    Good one. LOL

  • Linda

    The Alaskan Fox.

  • Lady Cracker

    I’ve only been watching for a generation but Sarah is by far the MOST CLEVER PERSON with some REAL (possibly Devine) TIMING!  jmo! That I’ve ever witnessed!  Pure Raw Talent – not stuffed with fluff and propaganda stuff – All the Clever Animals of the World should bow down to her.  LOL it’s friggen awesome to watch!  And all the flailing about of the far loony (clearly unstable) LEFT and RIGHT!!  It’s like many authors have stated!  She shows up and the truly derranged turn a spot light on over their heads and jump in front of a moving train to show their PDS ignorance!  It’s been such fun watching but I hope she’s watching her back.  I worry.  Some of the Joy Behar Godless Accolytes (sp)

  • Jackie

    “I would venture to say however, that you like That One’s policy and would probably stand in line twice at the airport to get that *special* treatment.”

    I also call bullshit on your lie that you never voted for Bush.  You were obviously up his ass to the elbow for the whole eight years.  You didn’t even show up at NQ until Obama had locked up the election, and that was just to trash Democrats and Democratic policies, and praise the Republicans.  You obviously floated over from Free Republic, Red State, or some other wingnut cesspool.  So spare me.

  • Linda

    But they ca volunteer! :)

  • Linda

    Wodiej, THAT explains the angry bitter liberal women!

  • Tamara Cracker

    Good one, Linda!

  • Linda

    getfitnow, the camera landed on that on last weeks episode!

  • seattlegonz

    Sorry, guest (you really stand by your comments with this sign-on, let me tell you.) but, you’ll have to be more specific about what you find to be so shallow about Palin’s comments on issues of north and south korea, climate change, energy policy, obamacare, the recession, taxes and the like. Considering no one has officially declared, yet, and the campaign hasn’t started…Sarah seems to be the only one making any comments of substance (shockingly, this even includes the president.)

    You can’t fool us with your “listening to the John Bachalor show.” We can detect irrational Palin hits even when you try to cover them up as reasoned commentary. Although it would be impressive if you listened to the John Batchelor show.

  • makeji

    Agreed, trixta. I’ve tried being a vegetarian so many times that I’ve lost count, but always got sick in the process. I try to stick with eating animals lower on the food chain, i.e., fish and poultry.

    An interesting anecdote – a wealthy woman that I work for is a vegan. She’s thin as a rail and takes no pleasure in food anymore – it’s only for subsistance. She recently had to participate in a deposition where there were donuts and coffee. She steers clear of sweets as well, btw. Well, halfway through the deposition, she felt faint, but the others, who had consumed the forbidden food, were super-charged and ready to go.

  • Linda

    lorac, that was true centuries  and decades ago, but times have changed to a degree.  Years ago, being heavy, pale and eating meat was a sign of wealth. (centuries) Both are correct.  And healthy eating Vegan, vs someone who just stopped eating meat is definiely not the same.

  • makeji

    She’s made millions! Good for her – that’s the American Way. It’s called making lemonade out of lemons. I suspect she would have been perfectly content earning her governor’s salary after McCain lost to Obama, but the dems in her state kept putting forth specious lawsuits. She did what anyone would do, if they could, quit her day job and capitalized on her personality. More power to her – I wish I could do it.

  • seattlegonz

    But, Rosa, the point that I was making is that the press are just acting as campaign managers and promoters. Obama didn’t go on OReilly except during the primary and only after the debacle of may 30th and his extortion of delegates. Plus, going on a program, the way Obama did, when they ask things like, “what’s your favorite color?” does nothing for anyone.

    No one asks hard questions unless they are working for the other candidate. That’s because journalists don’t exist anymore. Sarah is making herself more available than any candidate right now…she’s putting herself out there in a million ways. You really want her to go on messnbc? Please.

  • BIINKY

    If I were Palin, I’d never go in front of that bunch of rabid hyenas and give them the satisfaction of picking my bones!  Anybody that thinks there will be an objective journalist found amidst the ranks of the progressive media channels is living in la la land.

  • Mandelay

    God bless us, everyone!

    Thanks for sharing some of your holiday cheer, Larry!  Great story!

  • Linda

    Tricia, you are correct about all of Sarah’s attributes, but you forgot her work record that adds to the list and her RESUME.  America may have chosen who they thought was good looking (based on hormonal drives) of which I greatly disagree, but that’s all he had.  He was and IS an empty suit.

    So while you are correct that all of those thigs you mentioned  about Sarah are correct and those alone doesn’t make a good leader to run a country, that is correct, but thankfullly Sarah has so much more going for her.  Those other things you entioned just are her excellent personal qualities.

    Dang, the more I think of it, she is pretty amazing.

  • Linda

    Ferd wrote “That is true but we are where we are now because the electorate always confuses style with substance and format with content. To the contrary, Sarah is not about appearances but about bedrock substance and content and that pisses her opponents off. ”

    That’s what chaps the liberals women….which also includes the sexist men, butts even more.  They act the same, BITCHIE.

  • creeper

    Behar is clueless.  There is more to be learned between the pages of “Winnie-the-Pooh” than in the average “expert” piece.

  • BIINKY

    I believe they’re still working on getting our guns.  I saw something recently (can’t find it now) where Hillary was urging Congress to sign on to the UN’s Small Arms Treaty.  We must stay vigilent and keep Congress from passing these UN laws/treaty.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Colonel W. Patrick Lang wrote that or was it cross posted?

  • Linda

    Oh and the other thing chapping liberal women, Sarah is so real, she doesn’t mind getting dirty, roughing it up, not looking glamorous and being seen extremely casual.  To elitists snobs that put on airs and work very long to try to makes themselves look like something they’re not, they get even nastier. LOL

  • TeakWoodKite

    “I’ll start keeping a more open mind.”

    That is comical on so many levels.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I also call bullshit on your lie that you never voted for Bush.
    ================
    And you would be a stupid little bot for so doing. Apparently you are not only incapable of reading but your corollary comprehension is questionable. You can ask any regular here about my views on Bush, you half-baked moron. And That One, at whose feet you worship, is just Dubya with a tan.

    Now, I cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I also call bullshit on your lie that you never voted for Bush.  
    ================  
    And you would be a stupid little bot for so doing. I was here long before you, tart and long before That One stole the nomination. Apparently you are not only incapable of reading but your corollary comprehension is questionable. You can ask any regular here about my views on Bush, you half-baked moron. And That One, at whose feet you worship, is just Dubya with a tan.  
     
    Now, I cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “I’ll start keeping a more open mind”. ???

  • Mike Fulton

    hmm…

  • Linda

    TEAK, BARY…the EMPTY ONE had HIS kids Grandmother move in, because MEchelle couldn’t handle her TWO kids with the largest of staffs while not working and playing in the garden!

  • Katmoon

    Momule I can say for fact Ferd is quite spicey with his comments, but in real time he is a puppydog! O:-)

  • SeriouslySickOfObama

    An example of an OBOT!! This was mailed to the blog owner of CitizenWells.  An open THREAT to anyone that does not back Obama!! The Race War is just a few moments in time away if this is the current mind set of some Americans.  How Sad and Disgusting someone would make such statements!!   citizenwells | December 12, 2010 at 1:32 pm | <!– .comment-meta .commentmetadata –><!– .comment-author .vcard –>

    A commenter by the name of jj jones just sent the following:
    “A lakin’s life will be ruined over it and you birthers will be still be on first base.
    pitiful losers you are.
    seriously though, anyone tries to remove Obama and I promise you we black americans will burn the country to the ground.
    don’t test us.”
    Any attempt to burn this country by people of any color will be met with a force exceeding “hell hath no fury.”
    You do not speak for all Black Americans.
    Most have better sense.
    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/ltc-terry-lakin-court-martial-cdr-charles-kerchner-and-captain-pamela-barnett-will-attend-obama-and-army-on-trial/#comments
    And, then this happen, so the person jj jones does not even know her own race.
    Two Prominent Black Georgia Democrats Bolt Party to Join GOP http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/12/two-prominent-black-georgia-democrats-bolt-party-to-join-gop/  

    Two prominent black Georgia democrats announced they would bolt the party to join the GOP. The former democrats said their party had become too liberal.
    The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported:
    Two African-American Democrats on Thursday announced that they were joining the Republican Party.

  • seattlegonz

    Nan, the thing is that if Obama runs in 2012, whomever the republican nominee is will win…and that’s why conservatives and liberals are working so hard to paint Sarah as unfit…they’re terrified of life under President Palin, a person who has gone rogue and will speak out against either party. And, if she does win the nomination, she will win the presidency…unless of course the dems nominate Hillary. Then it will be a battle and I’m not sure who would win.

  • guest

    We’ll have to agree to disagree in that case. “Stand by our allies” just doesn’t cut it for me…not from somebody who says she could beat the incumbant. It doesn’t seem to make much sense even without the slip. “We do need to press China to do more to increase pressure on that arena. “ If we can’t pressure NK directly then how will be able to pressure China to put pressure on them, especially if they know less about and have less influence over NK than is normally assumed ?

    The follow up from Beck should have been – People that are waiting for China to “do something” about NK…like what, exactly? (That’s has been U.S. NK “policy” since 2006!).  
     
    It would given her an opportunity to first clarify whether her goal for diplomacy would be to manage North Korea’s nuclear arsenal or to eliminate it. If it is to contain through negotiations, then perhaps touch on the fact that it would be difficult to recover leverage with the Chinese after Bush ended up ceding negotiating power to the Chinese because the US was too involved in Iraq to take measures effectively after earlier provocations.  

    I will admit that Sarah is stronger on domestic policy, and on energy matters especially; I listened to some of her interviews last campaign about the ANWR and other Alaskan oil/natural gas production, and she has unmatched expertise in that area.

    But for a candidate that is already in a deficit with voters beyond the conservative base, she needs to be able to speak just as comfortably about our Afghan policy, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran, the Korean peninsula, the Middle East etc. In other words, to become — in very short order — much sharper on worldwide matters. She has to do a far better job convincing moderates and indie voters she`s a serious candidate who has the knowledge and understanding of specific situations, the history, the possible reactions and the likely fall-out of various scenarios that will face whomever is our President after 2012.

    It’s always better to be on offense-you have the upper hand. Taking your answers to the next level of depth is the only way to shut them up (critics AND interviewers).

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Woof!

  • Katmoon

    People are not likely to go that nuts unless someone else is providing them a reason, and you can see who is whipping people on both sides into a frenzy. Sadly our CIC is one of the worse for doing this,( how many times has he called AMericans unsavory and negative names, I can start with racist and work my way to referring to politicians in disagreement as hostage takers,,,great example), however I do not recall SP doing same, defending herself yes, calling the fominators for what they are. That makes for a salt in the wound situation for those who disparage anyone who doesn’t have their nose burried up the one’s ass. I get his supporters are serious about that support, but likely is they have no perspective, nor objectivity being so close to the object of their desire. Anyone who worships a political candidate or politician has some serious identity issues of their own. They are like political stalkers, never able to see anything wrong, forever looking at how they agree with everything besoted by their belief they are “intune” with their idol. Not much different than the adoration in a cult IMHO. I didn’t like it with Clinton when he went foolish, I didn’t like it with Bush II, I love Sarah, but it is because of her humaness, her imperfect voice her willingness to try, regardless, in front of people. Then you have Obama, if the show in Alaska had been about him, he would have shot 12 caribou, on cue by teleprompter from osmosis by an aides gun, but he willed it to shoot, all of Berkley would have declared it a holiday, caribou meat would become the new arugula, and he would receive the NPP for saving the world from starvation.

  • seattlegonz

    What are you talking about? “Stand by our allies” doesn’t cut it for you? Hmm…an interesting comment, I’m stunned as to how to respond. You think we should apply pressure to NK ourselves? And what would that pressure look like? Do you want the US to get in a saber rattling war of words with NK? I think Sarah’s foreign policy creds are, thankfully, stronger than yours…otherwise I would be worried.

    China has a vested interest in containing nk impulsive nature…I’m all for them being more vocal about wanting nk to stop provoking south korea.

  • F Imogene White

    Merry Christmas!  Santa has come early this year.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    conveniently omitting the fact that all of these security measures were put in place in the prior, non-progressive Bush administration. 
    ================
    Yet another mistake you make, toodles. The pervometer and the sanctioned groping came under That One. You can’t even keep timelines straight. Now run along, kid.

  • rosa

    pick apart?  
     
    So you expect a person with critical thinking skills to swallow it whole?  
     
    Bash? naw mate it is just kangaroo meat.

    unlike some here, I don’t expect or want to change anyones mind, just giving my opinon!  Your critical thinking really hasn’t made you any better person than the obama backers,that we called elete! you think my opinion isn’t as important as yours?  we all get  to have our say, we all get to vote but apparently its only if you are an obot or a palinbot  ,{same difference} that it matters.   At least I am not a hateful critical thinker like  some of you!   I can think of people, I disagree with ,without sinking to your level.

  • Katmoon

    It’s always better to be on offense-you have the upper hand. Taking your answers to the next level of depth is the only way to shut them up (critics AND interviewers).  
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    I am curious how did Obama ever get the 57 state issue straight in front of a camera… oh wait we do have 57  states because he said so. Yes, Sarah has made some verbal errors, but not intellectual errors. I always wondered how someone doesn’t appear stupid who doesn’t realize or correctly say we have 50 states, it isn’t like there have been any new ones in quite awhile; was he just lazy and decided to add U. S. territories-still not the right number. Nah I always thought the man was lazy. I also think Sarah made a verbal error, have done it myself knowing darn well what the correct version was, am sure I will do it again; it happens. I don’t look at her as having a deficit(interesting word choice), I think she hasn’t had many opportunities to speak on such subjects, and yes, she will need to polish, yet somehow I get the idea, that she will polish what she honestly can present in a truthful manner, otherwise she will try and probably make some more mistakes. That is fine by me, as I see her interests at home first and foremost, and I have yet to know of a single CIC who knew everything there was to know about everything to be able to recite any answer at will that may be asked of a President. I think she will learn and therefore is careful and cautious and  aware she has some learning to do. I believe Obama is and always has been dangerous, he thinks he knows everything, and proceeds as same. 

  • JohnWSmart

    Larry, I feel this was a set up. Palin got to those boys through a 3rd party after finding out about your party. She paid them off. This is what happened because…uh…it’s the only reason that makes sense. 

    Sincerely,
    The DailyKos

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    The simple truth, rosa, is that this country has tried democrats and republicans, conservative (ino) and liberals. None have done a damn thing for this country except enrich themselves and their friends. Democrats like welfare for the masses; republicans prefer corporate welfare. One robs my left pocket and the other, my right.

    I don’t care if Sarah Palin kills caribou with her bare hands and eats the meat raw. I want someone to rein in government and to do so quickly. If she can do it, power to her.

  • Lady Cracker

    lmao

  • guest

    “Stand by our allies” HOW exactly and to DO WHAT given that there is virtually zero chance of the Chinese, either in public or behind the scenes, putting major substantive pressure on the North Koreans ? On the contrary, they have actually upped their engagement in the country in recent months.

    For example, South Korea’s ultimate goal for obvious reasons is the denuclearization and reunification of the Korean peninsula. Japan worries more about North Korea’s testing of missiles that could reach population centers or U.S. military bases. But they also see the Six-Party Talks as a forum they can hijack for negotiating guilt in the 20-30 year old issue of abductions of Japanese citizens by North Korean spies. Can the US accomodate both of these allies ? On a seperate track, should we pressure forces in the region who would like to see Japan and/or SK begin moving towards becoming a nuclear power themselves, and having the US go along ?

    If these recent provocations are an attempt by NK to force the West into restarting 6 Party talks the Kim regime has not supported previously, we need to wait them out while rigorously enforcing existing sanctions and at all cost not giving in to short-term concessions. That is a point on which all three countries can concur and which I suppose was the unstated implication of her answer.

  • Agent X

    I hate politics. I have been there and done that. I am not impressed with Sarah Palin. So what her family might be able to survive in a crisis. I know many people who can. None of that means anything. Being the former Governor of Alaska (who resigned) while good experience is no where near the experience needed for the Presidency of the United States. Matter of fact, we have shopping malls that have more population and issues than the State of Alaska. Do I think she is stupid? No not at all. Do I think she is ready for a run as President? I did not think Obama was ready and I certainly do not think she is ready at this time.

  • Katmoon

    ROFL

  • seattlegonz

    Did Sarah keep repeating “stand by our allies” over and over again without saying anything else? Have you read the other things she’s written and said about north and south korea? This was a glenn beck (for god’s sake) discussion.

    Which potential candidate for 2012 has answers that you like to these questions? Let’s hold all possible candidates to the same standard, right. Or maybe you just have pent up outrage at Obama because he hasn’t answered any of these questions, gone in front of a press corp and been able to outline a strategy for addressing NK provocative attack on SK. Sarah isn’t president, yet, it’s bobo…he’s the one who has to answer your questions the way you want them answered.

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  • My Site (click to edit)

    I beg to differ. We have done the lifetime pollitician thing and that has failed miserably. We’ve tried the folksy Texan twice and those administrations failed miserably. We’ve elected a peanut farmer from Georgia and a New World Order dink–all to no avail. Indeed, we’ve tried everything but elect one of us. Perhaps it is time to try something really different–not a man and not a career politician.

  • JB in VA

    LOL. Next up: Pelosi calls out the Sarah’s Alaska astroturfers and demands a congressional investigation. 

  • seattlegonz

    Agent X, do you live in a state with an open primary? Are you a republican, democrat, or independent (if you don’t mind my asking.)

    I just find it interesting when people talk about experience, and lack of experience. It stunned me that Hillary was eviscerated for her lack of experience when she’d spent 8 years in the west wing and 8 in the senate and probably had as much experience with what is required of a president as any candidate ever (except presidents running for re-election of course.)

    Women always seem to get hit with the lack of experience moniker whereas on men, like Obama, it’s meaningless.

    Will you get to vote in the republican primary?

    I’m a democrat, and I’m curious to see who republicans will nominate. (Heck, I’m curious to see who dems will nominate.) But, if it’s Palin vs Obama, well, he may have gained experience but it didn’t amount to much. Palin wins in my book.

  • Ferd Not My Site Cllick to Edit Berfle

    I beg to differ. We have done the lifetime pollitician thing and that has failed miserably. We’ve tried the folksy Texan twice and those administrations failed miserably. We’ve elected a peanut farmer from Georgia and a New World Order dink–all to no avail. Indeed, we’ve tried everything but elect one of us. Perhaps it is time to try something really different–not a man and not a career politician.

  • Ferd Not My Site Cllick to Edit Berfle

    I beg to differ. We have done the lifetime pollitician thing and that has failed miserably. We’ve tried the folksy Texan twice and those administrations failed miserably. We’ve elected a peanut farmer from Georgia and a New World Order dink–all to no avail. Indeed, we’ve tried everything but elect one of us. Perhaps it is time to try something really different–not a man and not a career politician.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I beg to differ. We have done the lifetime pollitician thing and that has failed miserably. We’ve tried the folksy Texan twice and those administrations failed miserably. We’ve elected a peanut farmer from Georgia and a New World Order dink–all to no avail. Indeed, we’ve tried everything but elect one of us. Perhaps it is time to try something really different–not a man and not a career politician.

    (and I wish that “my site click to edit” shit would stop)

  • Jackie

    “And That One, at whose feet you worship, is just Dubya with a tan.”

    Yes, our Lily Ledbetter-passing, healthcare-passing, stimulus-passing, financial reform-passing, auto industry-rescuing, financial sector-rescuing president is just “Dubya with a tan”.  Of course, none of that even matters to you, because you’ve never had any skin in the game to begin with.

    Idiot.

    (here’s where Ferd replies by inadvertently praising his hero, George W. Bush” 

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I believe Obama is and always has been dangerous, he thinks he knows everything, and proceeds as same.
    ====================
    Yep–invincible arrogance and invincible ignorance are truly troublesome characteristics in a president. We just rid ourselves of one suffering from both but got yet another. We all know what Socrates thought about a wise man and he was correct.

  • ces

    The (strong) appearance of Clinton should be a screaming alarm clock that if the dems don’t do something, they will lose the Middle. That might be why we hear some dem folk and the WH saying the compromise on the tax cuts  shows “strength” on O’s part. They want to attract the fiscal Middlers. 

    But I think the dims have to do some purging, or have a left wing version of the tea party to get back the message of the people. But it’s not going to happen anytime soon. It’s all oBlunder all the time, and it’s destroyed the party…and people are starting to see this (what we knew two-plus years ago).

    As for the those holding their nose, I think that people’s desires and the desires of the groups they are now following aren’t always in sync. They have been long time Dems, who don’t like the O-team, so they go with the group fighting back the hardest and loudest….despite not really agreeing with the end goals. (small gov/low-no taxes/no regs, etc). 

    The thing that keeps more from joining this moderate/mixed/middle is the Tea Party has leaders, if only in an iconic sense, that a lot of people find too divisive or too radical…or heck, too Republican in a lot of ways. 

    I’d love to see a Responsibility Party arise from all this crap flying around. Open books, no huge campaign coffers, no earmarks, no lobbyists, no special interests with checkbooks from far off lands (or ones just next door, for that matter)… Let people stand on their record and their word, not who has the bigger corporate backer (and *all* sides have those, even the TP).

    It’s supposed to be a gov of the PEOPLE, not the next campaign donor dinner. I would hope a lot of people would see that as real change.

    /end rant.

  • TeakWoodKite

    guest, your very confusing. Nothing wrong in wanting qualified candidates.

    I am of the opinion that Gov. Palin has more common sense than BO has inclination to speak from the podium with any gravitas.

    Your inference that Sarah Palin has no FP experience is curious, and therefore not qualified to be POTUS, an actor, a peanut farmer, a sex addict, a failed buisnessman and a con artist is what we have had for POTUS….

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I concur, ces. That being said, we will never get responsible government from the democrats, unfortunately (and I was one for 32 years). They have this erroneous idea that the money I earn is theirs to spend on crap that I neither ask for nor want. The Republicans are almost as bad, to boot. Until the American public demands more for less and demands accountability, we’ll never get the government envisioned by the founders. We don’t need more of anything except responsibility, accountability, and equal protection and prosecution–jail time for those who do not live up to the either.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    I concur, ces. That being said, we will never get responsible government from the democrats, unfortunately (and I was one for 32 years). They have this erroneous idea that the money I earn is theirs to spend on crap that I neither ask for nor want. The Republicans are almost as bad, to boot. Until the American public demands more for less and demands accountability, we’ll never get the government envisioned by the founders. We don’t need more of anything except responsibility, accountability, and equal protection and prosecution–jail time for those who do not live up to either.

  • Madame deFarge

    Ferd, I find it interesting and educational…who knew Hallibut had to be clubed in order to keep it from bruising?  Sarah apparently didn’t know either until they were told what to do…she just steps up and does it.

  • Madame deFarge

    rosa, most of these “interviewers” want to tape the interview then they have a chance to edit, edit, edit.  Sarah can never be caught in that trap again.  That’s why she’s live on Fox.  Until they want to play the game straight and give up on the “gotchas”, there’s absolutely no reason for Sarah to cooperate with their mission to try to humiliate her. 

    Btw, we’ll see if she’s up to speed during the debates…that’s when I’ll choose.

  • Madame deFarge

    The RNC hired a stylist who bought the clothes for Sarah to wear because most of the wardrobe she had was from local consignment shops.  Even then she looked better than Wookie.

  • Madame deFarge

    Also one of her reasons for setting up her office and studio close to home.  If she had to fly out to Anchorage to film…well, that wouldn’t work.

  • ces

    Exactly, Ferd. Very good summary of how I feel, too. Thank you. 

    Cheers to you and yours, too, btw.. Hope you and the long time NQ regulars have a great holiday!

  • Donna mongrel brazile

    Jackee: looks like your prez left you at the podium too trying to sell his “accomplishments.” what did he have to run to another party?

    Stop the carrying the water fest!

  • Jackie

    Jackee: looks like your prez left you at the podium too trying to sell his “accomplishments.” what did he have to run to another party?”

    The really funny thing about that statement is that there is literally no other interpretation other than that you believe I am really Bill Clinton. 

  • guest

    What I care about is that her response lacked substance. It was pure drivel. She does that a lot, unfortunately. Tries to give glib superficial answers to substantive questions. I don’t care who else does it, who else flubs up, etc. This woman potentially could be the Republican nominee two years from now. I want to see growth in the substance of her FP interviews and pronouncements. So far I’m not seeing it.

    What constitutes a “common sense” solution, by the way, when it comes to Korea ? Someone who would rather be caribou hunting than sharpening and deepening her knowledge, message, and image on the issue ?

    I wish the Palin Cultists would let their personality cult open up a bit to allow such things to happen. Rather than admit she could grow, however, many seem to prefer she remain ignorant that would acknowledge she’s less than a saint.

  • rosa

    Your inference that Sarah Palin has no FP experience is curious, and therefore not qualified to be POTUS, an actor, a peanut farmer, a sex addict, a failed buisnessman and a con artist is what we have had for POTUS….
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     hey, she may be some of these things too AND  she still doesn’t have fp experience no matter how you mock people!

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  • Madame deFarge

    Voting for a black man made them feel that they were high minded people full of noblesse oblige.  They wanted to feel that they were “good” people ready to take this big leap and even while looking down their noses, show the rest of us that they knew best…even if they hadn’t been on the planet long enough to discern that they were being taken for a ride.  They showed how little they actually were/are by thier sanctimonious, self-righteous finger pointing to anyone who wouldn’t go along.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Robinson, concerned about her failing health, invited an old friend from Chicago to visit her at the White House and the friend performed a Santeria ceremony in the residence. “No voodoo in the White House. Absolutely. I don’t care what you call it,” Obama allegedly declared…

    “unless it’s me doin it”, he added.

    Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
    Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes
    It’s a little secret, just the Robinsons’ affair
    Most of all, you’ve got to hide it from the kids

    Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mrs Robinson
    Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
    God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson
    Heaven holds a place for those who pray
    (Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey)

  • Madame deFarge

    rosa, may we once and for all dispense with the liberal lie that Sarah hunts from a plane?  She doesn’t shoot wolves and didn’t even pass the law that allows for them to be thinned out…that was her predecessor.

  • Madame deFarge

    She’s challenged Obama more than once on his decisions and policies.

  • felizarte

    Palin 2012!

  • getfitnow

    Stuck on STUPID–and there’s no cure!

  • seattlegonz

    That’s right ces…and Hillary (and Bill) are the defacto leaders of “liberal” version of the tea party. Hillary campaigned for almost 2 years against obama…she, and her supporters, made a case against him when no one else would. No other democrat argued as strongly against Obama as Hillary. She’s the only one, IMO, that gives dems a chance because she’s the only one who can say, in essence, I told you so.

    It’ll be interesting to see, early on, if Democrats (assuming there is a primary fight) are willing to get behind the most likely nominee even if it’s Hillary. I sure as hell hope so.

  • Agent X

    I normally do not like getting into discussions on politics and try to stay clear, most of the times. My family has been very deeply involved in politics even holding elected office. Half of them are Republicans and Half are Blue Dogs Democrats. We have rather interesting times when we get together, as you all can imagine.

    Moreover, I am a retired USG employee. Like I said been there, done that, seen much. However, I today consider myself a Libertarian Conservative. I focus on people like, Ron Paul, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, Democrats like Clayborn Pell (showing my age), and women like Jeane Kirkpatrick (showing my age again) and those like them.

    Otherwise, the rest of it is just a three ring circus.

  • Concerned

    Say, what’s the name of our 57th State again?

  • Agent X

    I normally do not like getting into discussions on politics and try to stay clear, most of the times. My family has been very deeply involved in politics even holding elected office. Half of them are Republicans and Half are Blue Dogs Democrats. We have rather interesting times when we get together, as you all can imagine.  
     
    Moreover, I am a retired USG employee. Like I said been there, done that, seen much. However, I today consider myself a Libertarian Conservative. I focus on people like, Ron Paul, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, Democrats like Claiborne Pell (showing my age), and women like Jeane Kirkpatrick (showing my age again) and those like them.  
     
    Otherwise, the rest of it is just a three ring circus.

  • seattlegonz

    Wow, Jackie, you really like Obama don’t you? It’s amazing to me that you and I, both democrats, look at Obama and see completely different men.

    I absolutely support Lily Ledbetter, and the Lily Ledbetter Act, however the rest of those items are abject failures in my view. Obamacare is horrible and has done nothing but raise rates for the insured (at least my rates have gone up in every category.) And, I can’t even fathom that women’s rights were ever sacrificed in the supposed name of compromise –it makes me nauseas.

    The rest are republican strategies…and so I’m not sure why you think they’re great, except that, it seems, you just love the guy.

  • ces

    seattlegonz…We could only hope that they start a movement that pulls back the curtain on the dems, as the TP has on the GOP. 

    The itch under my skin is that they’ve been beaten up for so long and by so many sides, (and Bill’s health), that they might really just not say anything. Hilary is too “polite” politically. We’ve seen Bill’s knee-tapping ‘energy’, but Hilary is the true Stateswoman. But in today’s day and age, that might work against her. Heck, forget that, is does work against her. Her vs Sarah is like Gore v W all over again, at least to some level. (Hence my distain for media manipulation in this 24/7 cable tv clusterfark we have for media.)

    I wish I knew what it would take to put a match to her seat to get her fired up enough to run, or at least clean up shop. 

    All I know is that I love to dangle the Clintons in front of my far right parents….”see they weren’t THAT bad, were they?” 

    Anyway, thanks again for the reasonable response. Cheers.

  • seattlegonz

    Ces, I agree that Hillary is a stateswoman, but I think she’s got way more fight in her than Kerry did. She’s just so dang smart, that I feel confident she could campaign against Palin and expose Palin’s weaknesses. No, she wouldn’t spend time making fun of Palin for caribou hunting or eating meat, she’d say she thinks that’s awesome and she respects that…which is what liberals would be doing if they had any smarts about them…and Hillary wouldn’t be prattling on about a gaffe the way obama supporters do, here…Hillary would, I suspect, talk substantively about the economy and the crisis in healthcare and the problems we face in national security and then explain how she proposes to address the issues at hand. That’s what Hillary did in the primary and, well, even with the dem leadership, all the media, republicans and the left, and all the soros money working to  drive her from the race she still managed to win more votes than obama. I’ve said it before — there isn’t a politician in the game who could do what Hillary did.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Jackie. Rhetorical much?

    “sometimes non-existent objections of a cowardly Democratic opposition.”

    early on both Dodd and Fiengold were going to filabuter / place a hold on the re-authorization of the Patriot Act. They folded like lawn chairs when the landscapers mowed the grass.

  • Obots are morally bankrupt racists

    Great story! If the Obots hate Sarah, thay means we should vote for her.

  • Jackie

    “And, I can’t even fathom that women’s rights were ever sacrificed in the supposed name of compromise –it makes me nauseas.”

    No, the Hyde Amendment already did that over 30 years ago.  The healthcare legislation simply said that it would not affect Hyde.  It “sacrificed” nothing.

    “The rest are republican strategies…and so I’m not sure why you think they’re great, except that, it seems, you just love the guy.”

    Financial reform is a Republican strategy?  The rescue of the auto industry is a Republican strategy?  Pumping stimulus into our frail economy is a Republican strategy?  Saving the financial sector from collapse is a Republican strategy?  What on earth are you talking about?

  • ces

    I like your optimism!! From your lips to her ears! 

  • TeakWoodKite

    Your the one being critical of others for “picking apart” what someone says.

    And who said anything about hate? I didn’t. You did. Think about it.

  • AbigailAdams

    seattlegonz –  do you mean RINO’s?, because Palin is the champion of the conservatives.  They’re not trying to smear her.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I wonder what gave you the impression I was mocking you?

    I simple called you on your blaming others for the weak argument you made and then saying no one should question it.

    and as I said  an actor, a peanut farmer, a sex addict, a failed businessman and a con artist is what we have had for POTUS….  
    None of the last presidents except for George Sr. had any FP experience.  I might add NONE of them except for BO felt the need to apologize for being American. Easy to do if you are not one.

  • Mr. Natural

    Sorkin doesn’t like Palin?

    You mean the half-wit writer who used to shtup the hideous Dowd woman?

    What a ma-roon!!!

    His questionable talent ran out with Sportsnight.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I wonder what gave you the impression I was mocking you?  
     
    I simply called you on your blaming others for the weak argument you made and then saying no one should question it.  
     
    and as I said  an actor, a peanut farmer, a sex addict, a failed businessman and a con artist is what we have had for POTUS….    
    None of the last presidents except for George Sr. had any FP experience.  I might add NONE of them except for BO felt the need to apologize for being American. Easy to do if you are not one.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Helen, I am not sure I am defending Palin….that would practicing the dark arts and I might be accused of doing something heritical. LOL.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Jackie that was a real assinine thing to say. Skin in the game? You have a loved one in harms way?

    Who is the idiot?

  • seattlegonz

    Hi Abigail…conservatives is too broad a term, but I don’t use RINO’s because that, to me, doesn’t really identify who is being talked about either, You’re right though, conservatives isn’t the right word.

    There are many republicans (conservatives) that don’t like Palin. The bottom line is that whether talking about democrats or republicans there are men and women in both parties, and the press, that really don’t want women to be in power, and certainly don’t want a woman to be president.

  • sybilll

    Kat, that was beautiful.  Tears welled up in my eyes when Speaker-to-be Boehner talked about the American Dream on 60 minutes tonight.  My gut hits me the same way when I hear Sarah speak about love of Country. 

  • Jackie

    “early on both Dodd and Fiengold were going to filabuter / place a hold on the re-authorization of the Patriot Act. They folded like lawn chairs when the landscapers mowed the grass.”

    And that event taught you to…”Vote Republican!”.

  • Jackie

    Jackie that was a real assinine thing to say. Skin in the game? You have a loved one in harms way?  
     
    Who is the idiot?”

    Look it up, sweetheart.  Talk to Warren Buffett.

  • VMorris

    Oh, please. I don’t want Obama OR Palin. If they are our only 2 choices, then as far as I am concerned it’s a “Heads you win, tails I lose” situation.

  • VMorris

    No. She would just quit because she felt like it.

  • seattlegonz

    I’m talking about how you just love Obama and give him a pass even when he acts just like GW Bush.

    Obamacare is awful. Do you get that? It’s awful, awful, awful…a terrible piece of legislation that has done nothing except help insurance companies.

  • Madame deFarge

    You are right, Katmoon.  In fact if Obama had been shown shooting a caribou, schools across the USA would have been ordered to make it the main entree on next week’s menu.  FLINO would be proclaiming it better than salad and twice as healthy and the Berkeley Co-op would be madly scrambling to find a distributer for bulk sales.  Such silliness and hypocrisy.

  • lauraks

    Seattlegonz is right on about women candidates for president.In the case of Hillary the establishment of the party saw a way to solidify the African American vote  with Obama.Of course Hillary would have won the presidency but race trumps gender(at least women).
    The interesting question is why women didn’t support Hillary in the numbers you’d expect in light of her record, extraordinary intellect and experience in a successful presidency given the dire state of the economy.

    There is absolutely no question that  Sarah Palin holds a fascination for millions of people    watch the show.My husband really likes her and appreciates her (as an outdoorsman all his life). I’m from a demographic the pollsters would insist can’t stand her but I actually like her and bristle at the attacks made on her.Let’s see 5 kids,former governor,long term partnership with her husband,loving relationship with her parents, hunts,fishes. The comments here about her elocution are a stretch.It doesn’t bother people in the land of plain spoken Harry Truman.
    That’s the kind of democrat I’ve been for 35 years .Give me that kind of democrat again and I’ll vote for them.Not biting with the Obama is better than fill in the blank scary woman or old guy.
    Mainstream republicans fear her because they don’t get her.They want one  of their own to be president .Nothing will change if another incrementalist is ensconsed in power because they have no guts.

    I wish Hillary would try again but can’t blame her for saying forget it. Obama has African Americans  who will not desert him.It is understandable but it renders a primary challenge a lost cause.

  • blogforce one

    Palin/Rubio or Palin Alan West will bethe ticket. Dems only chance is to run a third party shill to draw down The anti- Obama vote

  • seattlegonz

    Well either of those tickets would be mighty exciting…but, I think the dems might make the primary tough for Sarah by running 3rd party shills in the gop primary and getting the media to bolster them up. Obama knows who he wants to run against (Romney I think) and he’ll do everything he can to make sure he has his way. He has many covert operations and the best opposition researchers around. He’ll play dirty.

    Now, if he decides not to run, and Hillary does, then he might try to get the best gop candidate around, a Palin let’s say, just so Hillary will have a tough time winning. He’s just mean and vindictive that way.

  • Judy L. in NC

    Thanks for sharing that surprising story, Larry. 

    FrenchNail, I agree with your comment about loving America.  It’s what made my vote for McCain/Palin so easy.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Yet if Bristol stayed home, lived off of welfare and food stamps, and sat around watching TV all day she would be vilified for that as well.

    Sarah Palin would be skewered for not helping her daughter and grandchild.

    It may be the 21st century but some attitutdes remain unchanged.  It’s always the mother’s fault. Same old themes:

    She’s not spending enough time with her kids.

    She’s spending too much time with her kids and smothering them.

    Why is she stay-at-home mom when she could have a career?

    If she has a career she’s neglecting her children.

    These attitudes have been around a long time.  Nuthin’ new under the sun.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    You hit the nail on the head, candymarl.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    When Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan shortly after receiving the Peace Prize I laughed -at first.  Then I cried at the stupidity of it all.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

     Do I think she is ready for a run as President? I did not think Obama was ready and I certainly do not think she is ready at this time.
    =====================
    Then who, pray tell, is ready? We are insane if we vote to put yet another “ready” politician at the helm of the ship of state. How many times do we have to crash aginst the reefs on the far right or the rocks on the far left to get it through our skulls that the last f-ing thing we need is another bought-and-paid-for politician to continue the never ending series, Gilligan’s White House.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Speaking of apoligizing for America it’s not just folks here at NQ and other sites that have that view.  I’ve read foreign press that called what Obama did “his America apology tour”.  That’s been said by friend and foe alike.  The problem our friends, that do love America, found it offensive.  Our foes?  They ate it up and saw it as a sign of weakness.

    That ain’t good.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    No. She would just quit because she felt like it.
    =====================
    Do you even understand the context behind her resignation? Judging from the content of your posts, I’d wager not.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    I knew the attacks against Hillary had gone too far when you had people like Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, and even Karl Rove defending Hillary. 

    When the same people that spent years vilifying both Clintons came to her defense you know something is rotten in Denmark.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    For the benefit of those who don’t understand jackie-blahs-English-as-third-language wagon varnish, I give you a rough translation of its gobbledegook:

    It said “moo”.

  • Breeze

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    One little item everybody is forgetting:

    WILL OBAMA QUALIFY FOR A SECOND TERM?

    Already one state (can’t remember which right now) has passed a law for
    this and it is my understanding that all 50 have to agree or the person is
    not able to run for president’s office.

    Will Obama be able to qualify in 2012 without Pelosi’s OK?

  • Guest

    Palin wouldn’t stand a chance. And the worst part about her running is that she wouldn’t even win Alaska…..  

    So Sarah will run, but I find it hard to believe she will have enough overall GOP support to be on their ticket. She’ too much of a caricature nowadays.

  • kenoshamarge

    Like you creeper I was surprised at this. Actually I was stunned!

    Perhaps the American People have finally come to realize that there are a lot of us out here who aren’t members of the “elite” Harvard educated Political Class and yet still are competent and capable.

    Sarah Palin is a hell of a lot more “us” than most pols and that seems to be resonating in the damnest places.

    If nothing else she is worth the value of watching liberal heads explode everytime her name is mentioned.

    Sarah Palin’s American exceptionalism drives liberals nuts

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/12/10/104787/commentary-sarah-palin-plays-up.html

  • kenoshamarge

    I have been a vegetarian for 10 years and have never been healthier in my life. If anyone “claims” to be a vegetarian and isn’t then they simply aren’t eating right. Or perhaps are looking for an excuse to dive back into a steak or a cheeseburger.

    I can like and respect Sarah Palin and other hunters, hell I was married to one and gave birth to two more without embracing the life style myself. I am just an animal lover who finally could no longer tolerate the idea of eating the flesh of an animal. That’s just me and is my choice.

    The idea that my lifestyle is “elite” is too funny to even discuss. Some of less “elite” vegetarians do not dine on tofu. And beans, which have been a staple of human diets for thousands of years, are hardly an elite food. Not is one of my primary sources of protein, broccoli. Elite and Beano somehow just don’t mesh.

  • Linda

    You know the other reality?  They left in Sarah’s shooting, she and producers didn’t edit it out, for ALL to see.   If Barry even attempted such an experience, they would have edited it to remove all his missed shots and then still had to show only the shot and the animal, as Barry would never be able to hit it himself.  Remember, he didn’t even go in the ocean on his hyped up trip to FL after weeks avoiding and playing at Martha’s Vineyard.  Yep, he went to an inland lake to get photos of him playing in water with his daughter. rofl  What a LOSER!

  • Portia

    Being a vegitarian is really a luxury of western culture, because we can zip down to a grocery store and buy beans and tofu cheaply, even though it probably took 20 acres and 3 months of hard labor to produce them.  ”

    Depends on the context. In a climate as northern as Alaska, of course you would have to be a carnivore. No brainer. 
    To most agricultural societies in temperate zones, eating meat was a luxury. They lived on the grains, legumes, or maybe tubers, they can grow. Even a high percentage of the relatively well-fed British peasantry surveyed during the mid-19th century (some of the earliest social studies reports), talked of eating meat rarely.
    Of course hardly any of us are growing anything,anymore.

  • Guest

    Palin also accepted thousands if not millions from special interests as Governor of Alaska.

    The overarching problem is with us the voters, not he demographics or background of the politicians. And prior to this administration, we didn’t hold people accountable and we didn’t pay attention and we didn’t ask the right questions of our officials and of the people sitting in positions, our elected leaders. We all need to be paying closer attention, and making sure we understand, so we don’t, as you say, I guess, fall into the bubble and don’t read the signs properly.

  • yttik

    Those of you who do not believe me, that being a vegitarian is a privilege of western culture, should try living off the land without any meat. All over the world, people hunt, fish, eat grubs because it is nearly impossible for human beings to collect and grow enough diversity of foods to sustain a healthy vegitarian lifestyle. Beans and broccoli don’t grow in the wild, they require a great deal of argriculture, which is labor intensive. Beans are not an “elite” food, being able to pay 89 cents in the grocery store for them is an elite privilege! Try growing yourself 50 pounds of beans and you’ll understand what I mean.

  • Breeze

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    Sarah Palin and the  
    Haters of American Normal
     
       
    American Thinker,  
    by Stuart Schwartz     
     
    Original Article  
     
    12/13/2010   
     
    We are just south of Christmas, and the nation’s insiders — self-proclaimed blue-bloods by birth and/or worldview — have declared open season on Sarah Palin.  
     
    (Snip) And that “sunny disposition” sets them off, for Sarah Palin is a fiery red poker plunged into the pasty white of the collective metrosexual gut. Elizabeth Wurzel, the best-selling author who blogs for the Atlantic, howls with pain at the realization that Palin is actually “the most visible working mother and female politician in America, that she is the best exemplar of a woman with an equal marriage, that she has put up with….

  • Breeze

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    “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” recap:  
    Kate Gosselin loses it
     
     
    Salon,  
    by Kirkland Hamill  
     
    Original Article  
     
     
    12/13/2010    
     
    Sarah Palin succeeded in doing the impossible this week — engendering sympathy and perhaps even a little bit of admiration when she faced her biggest wildlife challenge to date — Kate Gosselin.  
     
    (Snip) Meanwhile, her kids and the Palins gather firewood, cook hamburgers and hot dogs, fish by the river, collect rocks and keepsakes, make s’mores, laugh, find cool fish bones and generally have a ball.

  • Breeze

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    SARAH PALIN’S HAITI TRIP:    
       
    FOX EXCLUSIVE & TOUR SECURITY SPARK MEDIA RESENTMENT    
     
       
    FoxNews    
    Dec. 12, 2010  
       
    Even though AFP points out that Sarah Palin’s  low profile visit to Haiti, “was tightly controlled for security reasons” mainstream media  reporting  reflects snide resentment for lack of access to Palin.    
       
    The Associated Press reports the Franklin Graham mercy mission to Haiti, in which  photos show that gifts for children were  hand delivered, as “tightly stage managed” with “access on her tour solely to the U.S. cable network Fox News.”    
     
    Either the Associated Press was ill informed or incredibly mean spirited because it was widely known, and even announced on Greta’s website that she was not going to Haiti as a Fox News employee; therefore, she was not going for exclusive access to Sarah Palin either. Here’s what Greta had to say:    
     
    By the way, I am going to go with Reverend Graham to Haiti this weekend.  This is not intended to be a Fox / ON THE RECORD at 10pm trip but simply a good way for me to spend my weekend.  I intend to help.  I will also shoot some video (with the help of OTR Producer Justin Wells who is also volunteering to go) and take some pics to post here on GretaWire so that you get a closer look on what is going on next door to us.  I know that many of you would like to go and help and can not.    
       
    Although The Associated Press (who did not announce they were in Haiti volunteering their time) questionably  reported the tour as “her tour”, meaning Palin’s, instead of Graham’s, they  eventually made it clear that it was Graham, not Sarah Palin,  who asked them to leave for “security reasons”. Therefore, it also follows that it wasn’t  a personal  Sarah Palin decision to deny them access as they first inferred:    
     
    Graham’s organization, Samaritan’s Purse, refused to discuss Palin’s itinerary with other media and asked Haitian and American reporters to leave its compounds, citing a “security lockdown.    
    How far mainstream media backed off is uncertain, wonderful photos, credited to AP, of the tour are popping up  over the web.    
       
    Governor Sarah Palin, in Haiti with her daughter, Bristol and husband Todd,  joined Franklin Graham to deliver gifts to the children and check on clinics in Haiti – all part of an  sorely needed  outreach by Samaritan’s Purse, to this very impoverished country beseiged by more problems than most Americans can imagine.    
       
    It is assumed that  AP  wanted to interview Sarah Palin as a potential presidential candidate -  instead of the caring woman,  Sarah Palin, a concerned  American, who  has herself, tightly kept this trip under wraps. Her very secrecy points to   what may have been  a gallant attempt to lessen distraction from the very worthy, heart rending cause.    
       
    The most quotable statement from Palin has been regarding the touching “joy” of the people of Haitia in the face of both political unrest and a devastating cholera epidemic.  After seeing their response, Palin, couldn’t help but compare how “fortunate” Americans are. She  added her gratitude that “Samaritan’s Purse is still here doing the tough work.”

  • Breeze

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    Latest Phony Palin ‘Scandal’
    Goes Up in Smoke


    FOX News,
    by Staff

    Original Article

    12/13/2010

    The Associated Press transmitted a photo from Haiti of Palin captioned, “Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, center, has her hair done during a visit to a cholera treatment center set up by the NGO Samaritan’s Purse in Cabaret, Haiti, Saturday Dec. 11, 2010.

    (Snip) That photo and caption set off rabid attacks on Palin from the Huffington Post, the U.K.’s Daily Mail and, of course, Palingates….

  • trixta

    There is no comparison between Palin and Schaffly (whom I object to on almost all levels).  Palin not only embraces feminism, but redefines it; Schaffly condemns it.

  • trixta

    Huh? Both ways? Do you mean being a vegetarian and a carnivore at the same time?

  • trixta

    Unbelievable!  The Dems had both Houses and the Executive branch — not to mention the support of the public and a even sycophant media — and they still didn’t reverse GWB’s policies!  Give me a break!  At a certain point the Neo-Dems and Progs have to take responsibility for their failures.  Instead of  worshiping at the throne of Obama, the Dems should have held his feet to the fire.  But noooooo, all the your side ever did was pump up your Balloon Boy.   If BO and his policies are full of hot air it is the Left’s fault.

  • trixta

    TSA is BO’s baby.

  • trixta

    Oh Lordy, Jackie!  If all you see on that list is BO’s legislative “successes” then I feel sorry for you.  You’ve just enumerated the many disastrous policies BO has inflicted on this country for generations to come — all to the benefit of the greedy corporations, bankers, and war-mongering forces behind this puppet President.  Lordy, Lordy,…tsk, tsk, tsk…..  

  • yttik

    That hairdresser thing was just too stupid. Bristol Palin was adjusting her mother’s hair clip. Sarah was not getting her hair done in a cholera clinic as if she had a team of make up artists traveling with her. Her own daughter was simply adjusting her hair clip.

  • trixta

    She may very well be anorexic, makeji.  Anorexics will often use the excuse of “vegetarianism” or “staying away from unhealthy food” to keep from eating.  

  • Breeze

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    THIS IS A MUST READ!!!

  • trixta

    BO’s Ledbetter Act has no teeth in it without the Equal Pay Act to enforce it.  It was just theater for BO with no real commitment to economic equality for women.

  • Ferd Premium Saltine Berfle

    Like Ms Cleo and her commercials, guest, you and your prognostications are simply foolishness disguised as enlightened commentary.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Awww….it thinks I’m its sweatheart….

    Yeah I have wrren for my 3 oclock… I’l metion it to him.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Awww….it thinks I’m its sweatheart….  
     
    Yeah I have Warren for my 3 oclock… I’ll mention it to him.

  • Noogan

    Love Sarah Palin; admire her; she can’t beat Obama in 2012. 

    But Mitt Romney can, says McClatchyDC:

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/12/10/105105/poll-obamas-losing-support-romney.html

    Please note: I’m not endorsing Romney, just sayin’  :-D

    Personally, I wish Ron Paul could win; but I don’t think he could either. 

  • Noogan

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/12/10/105105/poll-obamas-losing-support-romney.html

    I love Sarah Palin; admire her too. But she can’t beat Obama in 2012. 

    But Mitt Romney can, says McClatchydc. 

    I’m not endorsing Mitt Romney, I’m just sayin.  :-D

  • TeakWoodKite

    It was a harbinger of things to come Jackie. Yes, it was a learning moment. I at the time thought, especially with Fiengold, he was a man of his word.

  • felizarte

    The political establishment, handlers, etc. absolutely hate her because they are convinced, and for good reasons, that they won’t be able to “mold” Palin into a Stepford candidate.  And the thought of her being president terrifies the hell out of the liberal fringe.  But she could really shake things up for the benefit of the American people.

  • AbigailAdams

    Hello to you, sg.  Well, in the circles I travel, “conservative” means those who wish to conserve the ideals of the founders and return this country to rule of constitutional law.  Their only connection to libprog social issues is that these issues be considered dispassionately under the scope of the constitution and has nothing to do with special interests — acting on behalf of either political party, or any political party — circumventing the just path of our constitutional directives.  It’s when anyone decides legislation, from the town hall to the halls of congress, while skirting the will of the people, the consent of the governed, that we run afoul of the bedrock of our supreme law of the land.  Justice is blind.

    On the woman-as-president, I think this is coming more from the libprog base than anywhere else.  But wherever it’s coming from I don’t think we can attribute it to political affiliation — it comes from sexism, and from men and women alike.  I was an ardent supporter of HRC up to the very end.  At one time I championed her run in 2012, but no more.  It’s not because of her gender, it’s because of her fealty to the D party, her socio-political ideologies and those with whom she has close political and social ties.  I will not vote for a woman just because she’s woman any more than I would vote for anyone just because they are a particular gender or skin color.  That’s identity (or mascot) poltiics.

    I think we have to be careful or consider carefully what we mean when we say they don’t want a woman to be president.  It’s the same malarkey that was said against anyone who objected to Obama – they don’t want a black man to be president.  I’d hate for us to continue this slide into the abyss just because we had to satisfy everyone’s false twinges of conscience over whether or not we are sexist, just as we (empirical “we”) had to satisfy ourselves that we aren’t racists.

    As a tea party patriot, I don’t care if the next stellar candidate is a sex-change transvestite so long as they are lovers of the constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence from memory (every last word) and won’t put up with any horsesh*t from those who would like to see us follow the example of the socialist EU.   

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    If some guy says he finds Sarah Palin’s older son “hot” is he being sexist?  Or just expressing an opinion? Inquiring minds need to know.

  • felizarte

    I still can’t figure out where this “Obama is brilliant,” came from.  At almost every turn, he has shown utter moronic qualities.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Lawrence Tribe was the first I heard to use that discription of the perp.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    SAVE US TOO!

    Signed,

    THE MICE

  • felizarte

    Palin is wise.  Learning about the msm in 2008, she now knows she is better off taking her message directly to the people:  fox news contributions, books, speaking engagements, and now Palin’s ALASKA!  She is about the only political personality, other than Obama, who is written, talked about on a daily basis.  And, without a PR firm being paid! In fact, she is the one who gets paid. So, take that, Romney, Huckabee, Newt, Pawlenty and whoever else! Her hunter’s experience in stalking her prey is certainly serving her well; if her prey is the presidency.  More power, Palin!

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Too true. After all, we black folks is mongrels! So sayeth the great lord, emancipator, and community organizer Obama.

    Imagine the outcry if Palin had said that.

    Hey! Maybe that’s why Obama didn’t the poor black folk in his own district in Chicago. You know, the ones being screwed over by slumlords that Obama took money from for his campaigns.  They’re just mongrels ya know.

  • seattlegonz

    Morning Abigail,

    I appreciate your comments, and of course, you’re right again, that electing a woman just because she is a woman, without any other qualifications for the job at hand, would not be something I’d do or endorse. However, I do believe that women are required to run through more “rings of fire” to prove themselves, and if a Hillary or Palin, for example, then they’re often drenched in gasoline first before sent on the guantlet. So when I see women as qualified as both of these women I will fight with everything I have to ensure that they are given a clear path to the presidency because they are women, and they are right for the post.

    I would argue that they both love the constitution, can recite the declaration of independence, and want America to lead Europe and other allies, not follow in their footsteps, and not create a socialist America.

    But, here is where there’s tension on the line between “liberal” and “conservative” — on the rights of women, blacks, and other minorities. The rights of women, native americans and blacks weren’t guaranteed under the initial constitution or bill of rights. They weren’t guaranteed or anticipated.

    Under the constitution it has been determined “right” to own slaves, to limit the vote to men only, to incarcerate Japanese Americans, to steal land from native americans…and, under the constitution it has been determined “wrong” to do any of these things.

    You and I both love the constitution, and America…we just disagree about what it means.

  • felizarte

    What is important is that Palin is an American First and puts America first!  With that as her prism, she can’t go wrong on foreign policy.

  • blogforce one

    The Obommunists will have we Americans in such a deep shite hole by 2012 that Palin/Rubio will win in a landslide.01/20/13! You Betcha!

  • seattlegonz

    Obama wants to run against Romney. You’ll see a ton of stories about Palin not being able to win but Romney being able.

  • Jackie

    “Obamacare is awful. Do you get that? It’s awful, awful, awful…a terrible piece of legislation that has done nothing except help insurance companies.”

    You’re the kind of person who, when rescued from drowning in a river, exclaim “what was the point?” when reminded of the long walk back to camp.

  • Jackie

    “Obamacare is awful. Do you get that? It’s awful, awful, awful…”

    Surprisingly, even after the 3rd awful, I still don’t get that…

  • JB in VA

    A poll in mid-Dec. 2010 says NOTHING about where things will stand in January 2011, much less Sept-Oct. 2012. 

    I think Sarah Palin is the only Republican who definitely would beat Obama. The other possible candidates have the RINOs, the pundits, the consultants, and the inside-the-beltway types — and have you noticed how they ALL look alike. 

    Sarah is the only one with real enthusiasm in her supporters, a solid lock on the Republican base and Reagan Dems, the support of a large number of former Hillary supporters and the ability to appeal to even more, a stunning record of cleaning up government by taking on big money insiders and defeating them, and, most of all, she’s NEVER boring. She’s a dynamite campaigner, a killer in debates, and a master at PR, none of which can be said of any of the others. If the Tea Party stays true to its principles, there’s no way she can lose.

    One thing’s for sure: If she is not the nominee, I’m totally on the sidelines for 2012, because the rest of the Republican field is nearly as distasteful to me as Obama. And I don’t think I’m alone.

  • seattlegonz

    Actually, I’m the kind of person that would be rescuing others…even you.

    It stuns me that you view obamacare as a rescue to anyone. do you work for a company that received a waiver? Is that why you think it suceeds?

  • AbigailAdams

    seattlegonz:  I’m talking about the constitution, including it’s current amendments and the constitutionally compatible laws we currently enjoy.  I think you know what I mean, right?

    As far as women having to jump through more hoops, yeah, you’re right.  But I think the libprogs would pull out off a lot more dirty tricks to stop a woman than any conservative would — given their sense of fairness and justice under the law.  This would be a good face:face conversation.

  • seattlegonz

    You’re right, there was no need to repeat myself 3 times, I was just flummoxed by your supposed list of democratic successes. I’m a democrat, and have been horrified by Obama’s governance because he has abandoned every democratic principle I hold dear. Mandatory health insurance is not a democratic healthcare plan because it only serves big business, doesn’t help the disenfranchised it just makes them criminals, and it doesn’t address a financial probllem.

    Does everyone who drives a car wear a seatbelt? The answer is no. But, it’s the law, and it’s free to do, just a minor inconvenience. If we can’t get everyone to wear a seatbelt how do you propose getting everyone to buy health insurance, especially when they don’t have money?

  • ces

    candymarl, good question to ask NQites. I’d always been preached to that women didn’t want to be judges solely on their looks. It’s sexist to say some successful woman is attractive. And by extension, women should be judged like a man would be. 

    So, should I vote for a candidate because they are white like me? black like? have the same bits in the same place between their legs as I do?

    Is it OK to put out an image to get guys to say she is “hot” to garner favor?

    Or are we all supposed to judge people by their character? And judge politicians by their stated goals and prior achievements?

    It just seems silly to bash the big bad media (that I too scream at for being incompetent) for covering a “hairdo ado” then turn right around and get your own TV show. It’s all about spreading exposure, but trying to control it. The elite politicians can’t have it both ways: you can put out the DWTS and pAK shows (she’s “hot”), but don’t be surprised when that same medium will also cover mistakes (our ally, North Korea).

  • seattlegonz

    Abigail: I understand where you’re coming from. I’m just a liberal, or a progressive (the pre-obama kind, a clinton democrat, a fiscal conservative, who knows what the right label is for me now) and think, obviously, that it’s possible to be apalled by what the current democratic party is doing and has done, to think that the legislation passed is not reflective of true progressive ideals.

    So even if we strip away all the effed up mess of obama and obamacrat party we still might not land in the same spot on the spectrum of ideaology, but it would be a respectful conversation.

  • Linda

    NONSENSE, she’s the only one that CAN beat Obama in 2012.

    Reality, when the rest of Americans, ie, not us who already know, start seeing the real Sarah, her numbers climb.  She is the one stark opposite of Obama/Bush.

    She wins.

    Even Arianna Huffington just agreed to that today on the Wendy Williams show.

  • Linda

    NONSENSE, she’s the only one that CAN beat Obama in 2012.

    Reality, when the rest of Americans, ie, not us who already know, start seeing the real Sarah, her numbers climb.  She is the one stark opposite of Obama/Bush.

    She wins.

    Even Arianna Huffington just agreed to that today on the Wendy Williams show.

  • Madame deFarge

    Another of his “flinch worthy” comments.  It’s obvious I find him odious and unqualified but I would never characterize anyone as a “mongrel”.  The closest I’ve ever heard from anyone is referring to their family as “Heinz 57″ variety…Just another one of his curious views.

  • guest

    Well, to break things down a little as they stand now: her opinion poll favorability numbers are slightly over 20 and his approval ratings the low 40′s. So for Palin to beat Obama third party candidate would have to runAnd it would have to be a perfect storm of  the economy not recovering, Obama not rebounding in the polls and the Republicans picking Palin.

    And even under that narrow scenario, if a spoiler like Bloomberg DID get in the race it would most likely take votes from the Republican and hand the White House back to Obama.Whether he asked for it or not. lol

  • seattlegonz

    Yeah, to break it down to you guest…the polls are complete bull and the results are fabricated to create a narrative. It’s a campaign tool obama used in the 2008 primary, and, of course there’s zero accountability for pollsters. Even less than the zero we apply to journalists.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    OOps that’s “didn’t help the poor black folk”.

  • Portia

    “So Sarah will run, but I find it hard to believe she will have enough overall GOP support to be on their ticket. She’ too much of a caricature nowadays.”

    Moreso than President B.O.?

  • Tamara Cracker

    Whoever the media says is the “republican who can WIN” is the Republican that CAN’T win.  

    I wouldn’t listen to anything said by the media, nor anyone they endorse. 
    EVER.

  • Tamara Cracker

    Oh you mean like the substance of chanting, “hope and change” with nothing to back it?  
    Sarah Palin has written in depth on lots of subjects, but you’ll never read them, because you don’t want to.  

    Your obsession with North and South Korea is odd.  Why don’t you take up your questions with the Obama administration, who is doing NOTHING about Korea? After all, HE is the President. 
    Not Sarah Palin.

    She is far from ignorant.  
    Can’t say the same about you, guest. 

  • Madame deFarge

    Don’t forget all the pictures of Reagan riding on his ranch. 

  • Madame deFarge

    The Israeli’s will greet her as a heroine.  That will definitely be a trip I’ll closely watch. 

  • Madame deFarge

    The Israeli’s will greet her as a heroine.  That will definitely be a trip I’ll watch closely.

  • candymarl red bone cracker

    Romney? Romney? He reminds me of a televangelist from the Elmer Gantry school of thought.

    Let us not forget Romneycare which has helped ruin his state’s economy.  Then there was the road rebuilding project with mega cost overruns. 

    Think Obama and company won’t use these things against him?  Wait until Deval Patrick comes out with the “I inherited these problems from Romney the same way Obama inherited his problems from GWB” line.

    The middle will flee and independents will see Romney as more of the same.

  • Jean Mc

    I’m older than the hills, and I love Sarah, and Sarah’s right – Have you seen Todd – y’all watch the young chicks, I’m watching Todd.

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    an idiot.

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