Lynn Forester de Rothschild on Cavuto

Obama bombed tonight but the media is worming and saying he did great. Still, not even the NYT can give him too much praise, noting that he looked weak.

Graph showing Bush’s disapproval rating

I’m thinking Monday the 527′s begin big time. I, too, want to see the b/c issue out front. However, Mac and Sarah have to keep hitting the socialist government Barry wants to foist on us and leave the exposure issues to the helpers.

Love Sarah on the tube in NH. She’s so great. Negativity? Just telling the truth about his record and associations.

Don’t underestimate the Obamedia. They will say Obama won. No doubt about it.

They have no intention of covering Obama’s fundraising fraud overseas.
This has to be exposed!
Please send a petition to European media and ask them to investigate Obama’s fraud!
Contact addresses and a template letter in German at the bottom of the following page.
http://colberturdead2me.wordpress.com/

I don’t want to hear anything from FOX, I don’t know what happened to them tonight but they way they were all gushing after OBama at the end of the debate was disgusting.

I personally did not think McCain did badly, and I sure as hell did not think Obama won this debate or as some were saying on the FOX debate panel that Obama won this one.

Maybe FOX is trying to make up to Obama because he sure has been calling them out lately so now FOX wants to give a little, I expected a bit more from FOX it was sure disappointing

Its Faux News now. By the way, didn’t you hear that Fox caved and agreed to feature Bambi’s infomercial? Yep, caved like an eggshell.

I REALLY wish that McCain would have said this when Obama tried to change the subject of the associations to how Americans didn’t want to hear about this and only economy: “My fellow Americans, Senator Obama and media constantly try to smash in your head that you want to talk about issues and economy and not about associations. Make no mistake, I understand that the issue hurting most is the economy. I understand that Americans are concerned about their jobs. But in order to fix the economy, the American people need to be able to trust the person they elect. THey need to know what he thinks and who he associates with. And Senator Obama’s association speaks to his judgment. When deciding on who we need to fix the economy, it is absolutely essential to know the candidates’ judgment, something that Senator Obama tries to deflect by pandering to you.

McCain couldn’t do everything. Keep in mind that the moderator, a man that shall from this day forward be held in disrepute, cut McCain off every two seconds.

The race changed tonight.
McCain can talk Joe plumber and Senator Government all the way to victory

They already did say he won. That is my point. They are WORMING all over the place, gushing about non-existent eloquence. When America watched this debate, all they saw was a smug piece of trash sitting next to an honorable man.

If Cheney is Darth Vader, Obama is Anakin Skywalker on the dark side. He is under the control of Lord Soros and will do anything to sway the country to the dark side.

The moderator let Obama go on twice as long as McCain and then rudely interrupted every time McCain began to answer a question. I think the moderator was fair at the beginning but got progressively worse as it went on.

McCain got his points across which will repeated constantly for the rest of the campaign.

Obama looked totally boring and the more he talked the less effective he became.
His 30 minute spot on TV will be a bomb and piss off the sports folks.

OT,My wife Just said “why are they making Obama a national hero ? He hasn’t done anything!”

FOX will have a lot more to worry about if Obama wins this election, cant they look at the stock market big business in afraid of an Obama win, they will not invest in this country, the oil market is also getting ready dropping their price to not have to be taxed more.

Now we have Obama tonight telling the Japanese about their cars that are flooding our markets, this man is a fool he speaks and does not think that these business people here and abroad are not listening.

Obama is the perfect snake oil salesman, people listens to his skill at talk and they go oh and ahh, but its pure BS and will as Mc Cain says take us into a severe depression, so FOX better wake up because they have a whole lot to lose

Lady de Rothschild is simply wonderful. Smart, articulate, thoughtful, persuasive and charming. Neil sure seems to like her and she is 100% right on everything she spoke about.

When “Joe Sixpack” sees that the game was delayed for some Obamamercial, he is going to throw his beer at the TV and make sure that he gets to the polls bright and early.

now that the debates are over, i wonder if we will finally see the missiles the GOP is holding back (supposedly). I hope so. I have developed such admiration for McCain that I like him almost as much or more than I liked Hillary. For some reason, my heart tells me that the past month and up till now in October, everything has been too perfect for Obama. He has nowhere to go but down. Gallup and the IBD poll had Obama up by only three. I’m just scared that while the national poll may tighten, the battleground states are not tightening that much. We shall see what happens. I hope that “tape” is out there – we need something to change the media narrative FAST

Was it just me, or did the moderator keep trying to whack McCain with a bread-stick?

People are going to watch the pregame and the game. Nobody wants to preface their sports with politics. There is a time for each… they don’t mix. This is an elitist maneuver to preempt the event itself. It will not be appreciated. Another network needs to advertise they will have the pregame as usual. That network will get the game viewers from Fox for the pregame.

The media is so disgusting. I want to rip the people from my television/computer screen and shake some sense into them. Sadly, they have no sense. They have been oboted, a painful process whereby common sense is removed and koolaid is put in its place.

OT-Ohio’s former Secretary of State just had a discussion with Greta explaining where the case stands regarding the questionable voter registrations in Ohio stand.

He requested we all go to Defend My Vote and sign the petition, please.

I just want to take this moment to show my respect for all the strong women that work harder than us guys.
I try everyday to show how much I care..

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/11/ever_wonder_how_a_wo.html

Ohio is such a mess right now. That Sec of State is crazy. She was refusing to check to see if the votes were phony and had to be forced to by a court. CRAZY!!! She has been oboted.

if you want to do something, contribute to these ad buys…linking bo to nixon and asking “would you buy a used car from this man?” i think it’s a great link and have been saying for quite some time that bo reminded me of nixon..paranoid, controlling, and dangerous to american institutions.

http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/

“For some reason, my heart tells me that the past month and up till now in October, everything has been too perfect for Obama. He has nowhere to go but down.”

Me too the bubble is going to break soon. They praise him for being cool and collected, but he has no emotion. He doesn’t connect at all!

We have to wait until Monday???

Say it ain’t so!

Now. Assaults now! C’mon man! Now is fine. Midweek shake up.

No time like the present!

He looked dead. Everyone is always saying McCain looks old, which he does, but Obama looked dead. He had no life in his eyes. I think if you touched Obama skin, it would be cold as ice. Probably because of all the ice water running through his veins.

I don’t think anyone would not say McCain did better in this debate than he did in all others, so I still don’t understand where that FOX debate panel was coming from tonight.

Even if they wanted to give Obama the win ok I will go with that nonsense but to make McCain look as if he was totally off his game, not even aware of what of going in it crap, FOX is either letting Obama get to them with all his talk that FOX has him doing poorly in the polls, or FOX is running after some Obama dollars and don’t want to be left out of the money game

Great videos !! Thanks for posting SusanUnPC.
Love Lynn Forester de Rothschild; very smart Lady indeed.

Fox is trying to avoid being canceled if Obama wins.

If obama wins…watch for wage and price controls.

Obama’s health plan wrongly assumes wage and price controls will work

The underlying assumption behind Sen. Barack Obama’s health insurance plan is that the government can put caps on the wages paid health care workers, the prices charged by providers and the premiums charged by insurers. The biggest disconnect in his very broad plan is that he can give patients unlimited access to greater benefits and “make health care affordable.”

Simply put, the senator, like Clinton, is promising to do the impossible, and he and his campaign know it.

http://www.businessword.com/index.php?/weblog/comments/1871/

Brunner has been sitting on 200,000 voter registration forms that need to be verified.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/jennifer_brunner_says_courts_d.html

I noticed you are sounding more hopeful than you were. That is a relief of sorts. There are some bloggers that I think really give an good idea of what people are thinking and you are one of them. I call them the barometer bloggers. On Greta, there is a person named Paul (Lancaster, PA) who is another one of my barometer bloggers.

I agree – a smug piece of trash sitting next to an honorable man. Go Mac!!!

The Repubs (at Fox and elsewhere) are angry and disappointed about McCain’s failure to deal a knock out blow to Obama tonight w.r.t. Ayres and ACORN. McCain opened up the issue but was very veiled for teh common person without explaining clearly convincingly and bringing home why it matters. He thus opened the door for Obama to reply calmly while looking perfectly reasonable and innocent. You and I know the truth but the voter out there doesn’t.
So McCain in some twisted sense discredited the issue by failing to counter Obama’s response.

So the Repubs reaction (at Fox) for ex. was one of resignation to defeat. They were already talking as if Obama is the president and McCain has lost it already hence their positioning for what’s coming in the next few years.

IMHO, of course

Yeah Sarah did great out there in the great Northwest state of New Hampshire.

Thanks Guys for your analyses.. Right after that sonofabitch started grinning I had to shut ‘er down…

I don’t agree. I think that someone has gotten to the people. McCain crushed Obama on all the issues. It was devastating. I think the commentators are covering for Obama so that if he happens to win, they won’t lose their job. Obama will of course impose his media censorship rules. He already singled out Fox.

Forgive me. I should’ve been more clear…

OT-Ohio’s FORMER Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell…

I suffered from the same ailment. I had to minimize the live feed and cut off Obama’s face everytime he was talking or they did a split screen. DISGUSTING JERK.

Lynn made some very strong points with regard to Obama increasing the “welfare system”. Very strong. I like Lynn. She’s right, too with regard to McCain making a clear cut point against Obama with regard to Joe the Plumber and how Obama’s policies will harm our economy, much like the “Hoover”.

Andrew>>
I’m a politcal junkie who has followed every election like a football game since the 60′s..McCain being behind by a few points is good.
When your side is angry and perplexed they go to the polls in droves.
Obama has no talking points to add form tonight’s debate.

Just say no..
Senator Government
Long live Joe Plumber and me!

Obama is Hoover redux!!!

I thought you were clear. Ken Blackwell was on but Brunner is running roughshod with this election, letting in phony votes.

The NY Times in the tank for Obama? I just read their coverage and I think it’s pretty clear how they want to slant things.

(Off topic but it really gets me about the NY Times: I can’t help but remember how they wanted to slant the Iraq thing too. Why do we even read that trash anymore? The world has changed radically in just a few years with blogs and such and I don’t think people are paying sites like the NY Times much heed. Because they don’t do real journalism. But they haven’t yet seen what’s happening. They’re becoming dinosaurs.)

Yes, there is a difference between being “calm and cool” and being “detached and indifferent”. It has taken nearly two years, but we are beginning to see the real “BHMO.

Perhaps the best news for McCain is the rating he received from independent voters. Among respondents not identified with either major political party, McCain was judged tonight’s winner, 51-42 percent.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14618.html

Obama looked like a scare Jew tonight!
I mean crow..

He went on offense and painted obama as a socialist. He used Joe the plimber to perfection. Trust McCain. If his camp was doing bad would Palin have spent today stumping in NH? Tomorrow in Maine?

Would obama and biden be in PA every other day if it was a lock? Biden spends every other day in Scranton it seems.

Palin did a rally in scranton hours after Biden,Bill and Hill and she got a bigger turnout than them. Look at where the campaign is going.

If Florida was a mess they would be there alot. Same with Ohio.

Mccain/Palin are working to pick off states that were thought to be firmly obama including Wisconsin and Minnesota. Read between the lines and stop believing what the media says.

It is a relief to read the things that are written here… if there were only the media to base my opinions against, I would go insane. The mainstream media is definitely ‘in it’ for Obama. I do not understand it… how is this happening?

No life in his eyes? Explain that to me.

But I can tell you one thing that I noticed in Michelle’s eyes: hate. Now, that’s a powerful emotion that you can hide with everything you have, except for your eyes. And she fails to hide it, spectacularly. No wonder she makes so very few campaign appearances. I bet others have noticed it, too, and that’s why they keep her under wraps.

I believe Fox is Australian-owned.

Has anyone else been tracking the Aussie dollar? It was at .97 US cents in July or August and is now down to .67 US cents or so, and was as low as .64, I think, last week.

Someone there may be thinking that once Zero gets in, the Democrats will allow the economy to improve (and with it, the Aussie dollar will go up as well).

That’s funny! Thanks for the link!

I have been waiting for McCain to say this. there are about 40% that don’t pay tax, but will get tax rebates. That is not a tax cut… it is welfare disguised. This is I think the bis hoax. Socialistic expansion disguised as a tax cut. Of course the money doesn’t add up. What will happen is the Socialist part of it will stick… the true middle class will get nothing… the upper middle will get the shock of their life as they find they are rich… and the true rich will look at leaving the U.S.

LOL

You must mean…if Chavez of the North wins.

I think Afghanistan and Iraq could use some “community organizing”. Barack should go help make sure that they are not being disenfranchised over there. Make sure everybody has a “proud” wife while at it.

I believe Fox is Australian-owned.

Australian owned? Been living in a cave?

It’s owned by Rupert Murdoch. He is originally from Australia but today I believe lives in the UK. And this by way of Las Vegas and a US citizenship he supposedly fixed after only two weeks residence there.

Biden is McCain’s secret weapon. He doesn’t mean to be… Biden just can’t help himself. He is probably educating those “coal crackers” about dirty coal.

The MSM was trying to tare down Nixon as well and he still got elected President twice. So don’t listen to them. There is a silent majority that will elect McCain. It is just that simple.

Once the “rich” leave the country, who will he tax then?

I disagree. McCain threw two names, Ayers, Acorn…for the millions(?) that have nominally followed the elections, and have not heard about these two stains on Obama. Curiosity sets in, information seeking kicks in….and for voters on the periphery of the process, terrorists and fraud are issues that will sway them against Obama.

Seattle Moss:

Thanks for the nice comment and link.

sort of like England in the 70′s…

Really?!!! Interesting.

Yeah. But what a way to decide how you’ll vote for a person for an office that has nuclear triggers. Frightening.

Then the middle class will be “rich”… until there is no such a thing as “middle class” or “rich”. Then Al Gore will fly over us in his private jet… and break into spontaneous “belly laughter” as we stand in government food lines to tr to get a cup of the same grains that we used to feed to cattle.

Tonight’s debate:

MCCAIN: Now, Senator Obama, I’d like — still like to know what that fine is going to be, and I don’t think that Joe right now wants to pay a fine when he is seeing such difficult times in America’s economy.

Senator Obama wants to set up health care bureaucracies, take over the health care of America through — as he said, his object is a single payer system.

If you like that, you’ll love Canada and England. So the point is…

SCHIEFFER: So that’s your objective?

OBAMA: It is not and I didn’t describe it…

MCCAIN: No, you stated it.

OBAMA: I just…

MCCAIN: Excuse me.

OBAMA: I just described what my plan is. And I’m happy to talk to you, Joe, too, if you’re out there. Here’s your fine — zero. You won’t pay a fine, because…

MCCAIN: Zero?

OBAMA: Zero, because as I said in our last debate and I’ll repeat, John, I exempt small businesses from the requirement for large businesses that can afford to provide health care to their employees, but are not doing it.

I exempt small businesses from having to pay into a kitty. But large businesses that can afford it, we’ve got a choice. Either they provide health insurance to their employees or somebody has to.

Right now, what happens is those employees get dumped into either the Medicaid system, which taxpayers pick up, or they’re going to the emergency room for uncompensated care, which everybody picks up in their premiums.

The average family is paying an additional $900 a year in higher premiums because of the uninsured.

So here’s what we do. We exempt small businesses. In fact, what, Joe, if you want to do the right thing with your employees and you want to provide them health insurance, we’ll give you a 50 percent credit so that you will actually be able to afford it.

If you don’t have health insurance or you want to buy into a group plan, you will be able to buy into the plan that I just described.

Now, what we haven’t talked about is Senator McCain’s plan. He says he’s going to give you all a $5,000 tax credit.

That sounds pretty good. And you can go out and buy your own insurance.

Here’s the problem — that for about 20 million people, you may find yourselves no longer having employer-based health insurance.

This is because younger people might be able to get health insurancefor $5,000, young and healthy folks.
Older folks, let’s healthy folks, what’s going to end up happening is that you’re going to be the only ones left in your employer-based system, your employers won’t be able to afford it.

And once you’re out on your own with this $5,000 credit, Senator McCain, for the first time, is going to be taxing the health carebenefits that you have from your employer.

And this is your plan, John. For the first time in history, you will be taxing people’s health care benefits.

By the way, the average policy costs about $12,000. So if you’ve got $5,000 and it’s going to cost you $12,000, that’s a loss for you.

Last point about Senator McCain’s plan is that insurers right now, the main restrictions on what they do is primarily state law and, under Senator McCain’s plan, those rules would be stripped away and you would start seeing a lot more insurance companies cherry-picking and excluding people from coverage. That, I think, is a mistake and I think that this is a fundamental difference in our campaign and how we would approach health care.

So, McCain confronts Obama on a fine people would have to pay if they fall behind in (or fail to make) the premium payments.

I recall discussions about this in the debates with Hillary.

But, Obama denied people would have to pay the fines and says “as I said in our last debate… .”

So, let’s see what Obama said in the last debate about health care premiums, or more specifically, who is exempt from the penalties for not making the payments on time:

October 7, 2008 debate:

Brokaw: Quick discussion. Is health care in America a privilege, a right, or a responsibility?

Sen. McCain?

McCain: I think it’s a responsibility, in this respect, in that we should have available and affordable health care to every American citizen, to every family member. And with the plan that — that I have, that will do that.

But government mandates I — I’m always a little nervous about. But it is certainly my responsibility. It is certainly small-business people and others, and they understand that responsibility. American citizens understand that. Employers understand that.

But they certainly are a little nervous when Sen. Obama says, if you don’t get the health care policy that I think you should have, then you’re going to get fined. And, by the way, Sen. Obama has never mentioned how much that fine might be. Perhaps we might find that out tonight.

Obama: Well, why don’t — why don’t — let’s talk about this, Tom, because there was just a lot of stuff out there.

Brokaw: Privilege, right or responsibility. Let’s start with that.

Obama: Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can’t pay their medical bills — for my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they’re saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don’t have to pay her treatment, there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.

So let me — let me just talk about this fundamental difference. And, Tom, I know that we’re under time constraints, but Sen. McCain through a lot of stuff out there.

Number one, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor. There’s no mandate involved.

Small businesses are not going to have a mandate. What we’re going to give you is a 50 percent tax credit to help provide health care for those that you need.

Now, it’s true that I say that you are going to have to make sure that your child has health care, because children are relatively cheap to insure and we don’t want them going to the emergency room for treatable illnesses like asthma.

And when Sen. McCain says that he wants to provide children health care, what he doesn’t mention is he voted against the expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program that is responsible for making sure that so many children who didn’t have previously health insurance have it now.

Now, the final point I’ll make on this whole issue of government intrusion and mandates — it is absolutely true that I think it is important for government to crack down on insurance companies that are cheating their customers, that don’t give you the fine print, so you end up thinking that you’re paying for something and, when you finally get sick and you need it, you’re not getting it.

And the reason that it’s a problem to go shopping state by state, you know what insurance companies will do? They will find a state — maybe Arizona, maybe another state — where there are no requirements for you to get cancer screenings, where there are no requirements for you to have to get pre-existing conditions, and they will all set up shop there.

That’s how in banking it works. Everybody goes to Delaware, because they’ve got very — pretty loose laws when it comes to things like credit cards.

And in that situation, what happens is, is that the protections you have, the consumer protections that you need, you’re not going to have available to you.

That is a fundamental difference that I have with Sen. McCain. He believes in deregulation in every circumstance. That’s what we’ve been going through for the last eight years. It hasn’t worked, and we need fundamental change.

Brokaw: Sen., we want to move on now. If we’d come back to the hall here, we’re going to shift gears here a little bit and we’re going to go to foreign policy and international matters, if we can…

McCain: I don’t believe that — did we hear the size of the fine?

Obama is a classic manipulator. He completely dissembled and never answered McCain’s question about how much the penalty would be in the October 7th debate, and then tonight he stated he answered the question in the last (October 7th) debate.

Classic lying manipulator.

That is pretty right I think… they were about twenty years ahead of us where we are now. Look at England today… Sharia law of all things. Watch Barack carefully and use a decoder ring to decipher what he says.

I’m glad you brought up Biden

Wrong on foreign policy..
Against the 1st Iraq war to get Saddam out of Kuwait
Advocated the partition of Iraq
Was against the surge.

Was the media this bad though? I mean, today, the media is crazy Obamabotish. Obama could defecate on stage and the media would call it a work of art.

BOTISH!!! Obama is disgusting. I haven’t heard a single answer out of him to anything.

Ok, thx, Andrew. Just wanted to make sure I give credit where credit is due.

Andrew…
The media is burning out the American people!!

Like I said, ratings are down 20-30%

The more Obama buys media spots the more people are going to get turned off.

Except his low information voters that are already in the tank.

Andrew

He looked dead alright. Maybe he’s starting to realize he has sold his soul to the devil.

We couldn’t watch the whole thing.

But Barky looked exceptionally bad. Hollow and droid-like.

We thought McCain was doing great and by the Drudge Report, so did a lot of people.

I stopped watching the Fox post debate analysis team after the first debate. They seem to try to find a way to give points to BoBo just for showing up and not spitting up on himself.

They don’t reflect Fox News in general.

I get Entertainment Weekly and it has the ratings for shows. It is true, the media’s numbers are really bad!!! People are probably reading books now and interacting on blogs instead of staying glued to the boob-tube getting Obamaganda shoved at them.

He did excellent. I got a look at the media commentary and got depressed for a bit, but upon reflection, McCain did excellently.

Andrew, It’s called a meta campaign. Read this:
http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/

Similar conversation on other blogs. Keep an eye on Fox. If they cave to BO, they don’t deserve our viewership [ratings] anymore than the other stations. We have the numbers to own our own cable station and enough good writers/journalists/photographers intelligent leaders to run it.

The more I think about the debate the more McCain wins..
So much information that can be used in the next 2 weeks.

I’m totally jazzed up!!!

This is do or die for the dinosaur media..if they win with their selection then they will have power.

If the media loses they are finished..

And I mean Finished!!!!

They would give him points even if he did spit up on himself. They would accuse McCain of causing the spit up. Then they would call the spit up “smooth and eloquent.” Then the spit up would be “presidential.”

Biden has to keep hanging around. He’s still looking for a diner that closed 30 years ago. Or maybe that was another town. Actually, I think it was in Delaware, his other near and dear state. Or did I get that wrong? Ah, well, If I forgot, I can assure you he did.

A good line but not one I would suggest using.

Well, we can, but the candidates can’t.

“If the American people wanted to put Joe Biden anywhere near the Oval Office, they’d have done it a long time ago.”

You’re crazy. Obama is no Anakin… More like Jar Jar Binks.

http://www.qctimes.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/jarjar.jpg

Bzero=Unelectable

That’s how overexposed Obama is: he’s driven us to read books!

WORD!! I no longer watch Fox News at all. They are completely botish. It started with Frank Luntz, then it spread to that Fox Report guy, then it spread to O’Lielly, then it moved in on Brit Hume, then it spread to Nina Easton, and now it has spread to Charles Krauthammer and Bill Kristol. Right about now they are trying to convert Hannity.

No, Pelosi is Jar Jar Binks.

Senator Government is what was the highlight for me.
I will never call him Obama again. Senator Government and his Obamunist hordes will be defeated.
We will not let the gang of 3(Sen.Government,Pelosi, and Reid) destroy our republic.

I am an american and i choose to fight. I will fight to help McCain win this until it is over. No more whining and complaining from you guys. Man up and lets ride this to victory over Senator Government.
NO OBAMANATION.

Danny, this will help:
http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/

I finished all of The Fountainhead during the primaries and then finished Fahrenheit 451. I know, I was preparing myself for an Obama win. Maybe next I should read A Brave New World.

That was a classic: Senator Government, indeed!

“Joe the Plumber” Talks with NBC 24 News

By Ryan Fowler
Thursday, October 16, 2008 at 1:59 a.m.

His named was mentioned more than 20-times during the final presidential debate on Wednesday…“Joe the Plumber” of Holland, Ohio. He’s a single father who describes himself simply as average.

Joe Wurzelbacher spoke with Senator Barack Obama during a campaign stop in Toledo Sunday. Wurzelbacher told the Illinois Senator his (Obama’s) tax plan would prevent him (Joe) from buying the business that currently employs him.

During Wednesday’s debate Senator John McCain used “Joe the Plumber” as an example of how small business owners would suffered under Obama. In the matter of a 90-minute debate, “Joe the Plumber” became an overnight sensation that will forever be linked to the 2008 presidential race.

NBC 24’s Ryan Fowler spoke one-on-one with “Joe the Plumber” shortly after the debate wrapped.

Reaction to hearing his name mentioned during the debate: “I was astounded to hear my name on national television spoken by a presidential candidate. I mean it floored me,” Joe Wurzelbacher.

Being an “average Joe”: “I get up every morning at 4:30 and I go to work. I don’t get home until 6 or 7. I cook dinner. I do homework with my son. I do yard work on the weekend. That’s a typical day and I live in a typical middle class neighborhood. I’m pretty much just average. I like to live a simple life,” Joe Wurzelbacher.

On all the attention he’s gotten since the debate wrapped: “I’ll have my 15-minutes. Come November 4th, depending on who wins, if McCain wins I might have another day or two out of it. If Obama wins then I’ll be a footnote maybe at the most I won’t be recognized again and that will be fine with me,” Wurzelbacher.

Reaction to talking with Obama about his proposed tax plan: “I wasn’t impressed. In fact, it upset me. For someone to sit there and say you’ve done too good, and I’m going to penalize you now. In essence that’s what he said. I’m paraphrasing, but you done too good; I want some more of your money now. That’s wrong. That’s wrong across the board and I can’t imagine someone not agreeing with that. I can’t imagine America not agreeing with that,” Wurzelbacher.

His advice to other voters: “Do your own homework. Don’t sit there and take your friends’ advice. Don’t sit there and take TV’s advice. Do your own homework. Find out what you really want instead of what your union steward wants, what anyone wants. That’s my biggest thing right there. Do your own homework,” Wurzelbacher.

Although it seems Wurzelbacher supports McCain, he refuses to say who he plans to vote for come November 4th.

http://www.wnwo.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=207729

Country First!!

McCain-Palin ’08

It is well established to anyone with even a moderately functional brain that the 95% tax cut is welfare simply disguised by semantic slight of hand. However, if this so called tax cut is meant to repeat year after year, at a trillion $’s a year, then it seems less like welfare, and more like reparations. The AA community will finally get thier windfall through the back door.

LOL! Indeed!

Good riddance. I hate those news programs. They should replace them with a stupid reality TV show. That is about what they are anyway, especially Katie Couric. Her show would be called: “How long are they willing to pay me this salary to come in last place?” It could feature a Trump-like figure evaluating her each week. To spice it up she could be competing against Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann[sp?]. One of the shows would involve tingling legs.

Smart Plumber. He should get a promotion.

I’m I the only one who thinks Neil Cavuto is in Love with Lady Lynne?

These young people at the colleges? The liberals? Will be eating crow soon! I can’t wait!

Yep I was there..
Stagnation and lack of business creation. The country had lost it’s sense of pride after the loss of influence in the world. Socialism drained the soul and everything was painted the same shade of gray.
Thatcher saved the country for awhile..

But now the Muslims are taking over..

Why do you think I hate these New democrats so much…

Paul —

I always enjoy reading your astute commentary.

Thanks so much for being here to add to the debate.

What did he say? I never understand anything he says. I consider myself intelligent. I mean, I’m about to graduate from high school fifth in my class of five hundred students, and I couldn’t understand one thing he said.

Fitting, you like to see some name-calling from your hero, even if it’s not intentional. This shows how great a statesman he is!

But your outrage meter goes off the charts when an “Obot” says… well, just about anything.

We’re sick of your phony outrage.

Hope it is uncooked so they get a little sick. They deserve it after subjecting this country to so much crap.

Might wanna look in the mirror a bit if those who attend college are what you consider enemies.

It’s not elitist to get an education.

Try “Atlas Shrugged” next. A must read for EVERYONE. If Obama wins….” Darkness at Noon” will get you prepped for the coming social meltdown.

BREAKING: Snotty rich woman supports McCain!

Says “I can move to my other home country if he destroys our economy like Bushites”

Details at 11!

I think he is referring to those people that consider themselves better than others because of their education. Not all people who go to college turn out elitist. Furthermore, those college kids that have been voting for Obama have absolutely no idea what they are getting themselves into. They do deserve to eat crow. Besides, it doesn’t take an education to figure out Obama is bad news.

Go away bot!!!!

Of course it’s not elitist to get an education. The earlier statements referred to young people attending college. Who said anything about them getting an education?

I consider myself intelligent

perhaps therein lies your problem? thinking too highly of oneself makes many a man blind

Also, you’re conversing (and agreeing!) with people who, if they’re consistent, think Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a communist.

Now that’s intelligent!

j/k… it’s Republican

Did you notice during the debate analysis, that the 4 voters betrayed themselves as Obamabots at the end. The one said “guilt by association doesn’t matter,” and the woman who got very very angry. Their anger and talking points gave them away.

say “go away Democrat” and I might

Then watch Dark City, the movie.

It’s about breaking free in an impossibly dark and obot type world.

Bot!!

The book that’s most valuable now

Liberal Fascism

Jonah Goldberg…

http://www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=1555

Does Barack Obama own an unreported home in Fallon, Nevada, rumor was sent in to the above link, listed under the name Stanley A. Dunham.

Are your more sick of that than we are of all things Obama including Obot trolls?

Keep making us sick, we’ll get well on Nov. 4th and vote for McCain.

you are correct

in my experience, those who enter college because of connections or wealth are the main source of elitism

but republicans try to say intelligence == eloquence == education == elitism (while manipulating voters with fake country accents / fake populism, and pitting those who want to level the playing field against those who would benefit)

republicans are bad news until they fix their party (break it, shatter it, rebuild it from the ground up)

Another great moment..
McCain called Obama out on campaign financing..

Obama looked like the liar he is…

McCain showed his utter contempt for the lying audacious piece of crap

I’ll go to Borders tomorrow and pick them up. I have been meaning to get Atlas Shrugged for a while though. Book stores are filled with Obots though so I need to get my hands on the repellent. Some of the cashiers where Obama pins and what not. They were the ones who hid all the anti-Obama books.

Oboe…Our outrage is most definitely not phony. By the way, why is it your side is so nasty with the name calling? (Snotty rich women, Sarah Palin is a **** t-shirts…the list is endless) Hatred destroys the soul my friend.

Oboe is a racist who wants to vote a black man just because of color and uses intimidation tactics like the fool BO.

blah, blah, blah

don’t argue your position, just circlejerk and call names

intelligent? my ass

Go away dipshit is more appropriate.

Joe Plumber is smart not to endorse but to give the nod which clearly shows he is on McCain’s side.

Plumber knows that the thugs will come knocking if he outright endorses.

Good thing you still have your vote, and I still have mine.

I hope some of our young fellow americans of every race will pay attention instead of hearing what they want to hear and shutting off.

Thanks for your posting.

And he also has a spread in Carmel Valley, CA.

i guess you guys would consider all democrats dipshits

go ahead, say it

democrats, get out of here!

then i’ll leave

i know what the hell you are and democrat isn’t the word i use

No.. He seems to really like her, but who wouldn’t? lol

Yep. Anyone who thought the Repubs were bad with the Abermoff scandal is in for a rude awakening. I wouldn’t even call these new people liberals, I would call them collectivists or socialists. FDR was liberal, Pelosi is collectivist. This goes for conservatives too. We need to get away from the liberal/conservative dichotomy and introduce ourselves to the collectivist/individualist dichotomy. Most Americans are really conservative liberals/moderates anyway.

Always remember Animal Farm…
Orwell could see it

I am with you, never think you are alone, you are not alone. Some do not get it. I am glad you get it, and you are not alone.

God bless.

i don’t hate

she’s snotty
and rich
and a woman

so “snotty rich woman”

it is what it is

wouldn’t want to raise her taxes
she might not get that extra yacht

Some Dems have brains and say no to Nobama. The ones who don’t are bots.

oboe is a democrat who wants to vote for a democrat because of the fact that he’s a democrat and uses facts, not attacks like the lying republican trolls

i guess it’s simple as that

democrats with brains vote for republicans and against democrats

that’s why we call them democrats

how could i be so blind to that commonsense argument?!

oof

Outrageous!!! You know what Pelosi is? A rich bitch who wants to move our country toward communism. You know what Barney Franks is? A dumb fag [this in no way meant to insult all gays, just the one that is bent on the destruction of this country] who was bopping a Fannie guy [ha!] while voting to screw up the housing market. You know what Obama is? An evil man who seeks to bring the end to this nation. I’d take the snotty rich woman over any of these three in a heartbeat.

Nah,
You got it wrong…
what we don’t like about you is that you’re a dickhead, not a democrat

No, Dems with brains vote against anti-Americans.

Then go fuck yourself… no one here gives a flying shit about the random electrical bursts that sputter off the end of your spine…
There isn’t dick all above that stump anymore than is there is honesty in your candidate.
I despise your foolish ignorance of history, communism, subversion and ethics.
You are, by dint of that, not worth pissing on…

Got to get some rest now folks so I can get to work in the morning and find some more clients for my small business. Have to make up the difference just in case Senator Government is elected and takes more of my $$$ and give it to Oboe.

Eloquence untempered with humility and imbued with arrogance is elitist. Oh, and the fake accents, name one Republican that has used a fake accent? Oh, and the populism, what do you call pitting the middle class against the upper class and business while offering everyone free stuff? Oh, populism. You must be talking about Democrats.

wow

you called a politician a bitch

now everybody here has to vote democratic!

you sexist pig

…

she’s rich and wouldn’t care to give back to the country that she became successful in, and thanks to

aversion to taxation when you have enough to feed thousands of families is greed

nothing but greed

your hate has erupted, tamp it down
the blacks aren’t going to put you in camps

trust me

Obots might kill him. We have seen what they did with Corsi. Comes back from discovering damaging information about Obama and all of a sudden falls terribly ill. Then you have that gay choir director that suddenly was the victim of a brutal homicide and Larry Sinclair who just happened to be arrested for an unrelated warrant and under the authority of Biden’s son right after giving a damaging interview to the press.

look, more hate

just another radical right wing republican

hateful and vicious

i’m a proud democrat and liberal

and you can use cusswords

bravo! bravo!

Talk about Obama pins. Yesterday I was standing in line at the post office behind a mid 60 yo man that had on a very nice jacket with Obama/Biden embroidered on front and back, a new O/B basesball cap, a pin that said “Vote Irish, Barry O’Bama”, and a dozen or so more pins scattered about. I asked him where his armbands were. He looked confused. “What armbands?” he asked. I said “You really need armbands for the full Fascist look”. He exploded an told me that I was the Fascist because I was a Republican. I asked him why he assumed I was a Republican, because I wasn’t wearing a uniform. At least I now have some idea what the guys that will kick down my door a year from now look like.

A woman like Pelosi who has demonstrated utter contempt for the American people deserves a harsh label. I think even the most strident feminist would agree that the term is most appropriate for these kind of people. With regard to money, isn’t it interesting that one of the people with all that money invested in Lehman Brothers was Nancy’s husband? Isn’t it also interesting that Nancy tried to exclude an island where her husband’s cannery is located from being subject to the new minimum wage laws?

so you say

but you’re not very good at lying

you got me all wrong!

hah, sure

one of you needs to just tell the truth

you ain’t democrats, none of yas

Ignore oboe, he is a lost cause. I’m out, it is 12:27 right now and my eyes are shutting on me. McCain did great tonight and I hope it shows up in the polls.

that’s why they vote democratic

straight ticket this year, muddafugga

uhhhhh, clean up in this aisle? Is that a bigoted statement?

show me a republican with humility — poor or rich

they are proud to be what they are whatever they are

proud of america because it’s the country they live in and nothing else

fake accent? bush, palin especially
she even unlearned how to pronounce nuclear

how folksy

and democrats practice a more real populism

not saying screw the rich then sticking it to the poor like Republicans

seen it toooo many times

Give me a break. Libertarian crap.

More Libertarian crap.

A bad back is terribly ill?

Corsi is also the chicken little who said the dollar was going to be replaced by the mythical “amero.”

Whatever.

i stand corrected

working equals education, education equals nothing

or does education end with high school?

sounds rightwing republican to me, how about you

Exactly, oboe. This place is INFESTED with republicans and even worse, libertarians. Yammering about “liberals” and “commies.”

Get a clue, rethug trolls. We are voting for McCain as a PROTEST vote. To clean up our party like you FAILED to do with YOURS.

Well, you missed my argument, then. You have no right to lecture the thugs here on cleaning up their party if YOU are not willing to clean up ours.

It works both ways like that.

No, I missed that….thanks. I turned off the TV the minute the four said they were now “persuaded” to vote Obama. Yeah, right!

Can you sell something to yourself?

a real one? maybe

thing is, republicans won’t fix themselves and are far more broken

party of fascists (rep) or a party of fascist enabling politicians (dem)

which do you choose…? i like politicians over potential brownshirts

they have to be shown that it’s not working anymore, to change

that’s why i’m a proud dem and still voting dem

but, i do respect a dem protest voting,
far more than a repub posing as dem

wish you would take back your puma site from the rightwing radicals

they corrupted our country and call their opponents anti-american

vote “obot”, crush the fascist rep scum, then fix dems, is what i say

goodnight

Just read – I think it was an AOL poll – that Blacks chose Obama as the winner of tonight’s debate: 88% for Obama 10% for McCain

I’m SHOCKED I tell ‘ya – SHOCKED! (LOL!) Hmmmm…who would’a guessed it? No racism there, of course not!

i see it another way

republicans are pseudo-fascists

their party is corrupt and evil

they support wars for no reason but to piss off libruls, they support torture

their base is very much hardcore right-wing and always supports them

dems are naturally not marching as one, almost never

our party can be fixed

theirs must be broken

that is the difference

seattle — McCain was terrific but more importantly he was real. Obama talks and talks and on trade he seems to have lost himself in his own talking points and it became about assassinations. I don’t get the guy at all. Everytime McCain spoke Obama laughed or grimaced. He doesn’t even know how to keep still when it isn’t his turn. Obama and McCain are essentially tied right now with likely voters. I agree with Obama’s healthcare plan but I think it would become another Acorn mess because the only people he knows are crooks.

People lets not and say we did. This guy isn’t ready for the biggest job in the world.

seattle — thats a very odd mistake to make.

Paul — Rendell tried to contact the Obama Campaign over the weekend to do an emergency event. He said Obama wasn’t interested. So he called people he knew in the campaign to tell them we’re hurting out here you’ve got to get him here. The contacted Obama and he came to Pa.

Today we hear from Murtha that the people of his district in Western Pa. are racists and will cost Obama votes in Pa. although he will win.

Sounds to me like Obama is in trouble in Pa.

Did anyone catch what Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild said when Neal Cavuto asked her what she thought about Hillary supporting Obama after all that happened? She said something like…if Obama is elected she and Bill have a lot of explaining to do. She GETS it!
One thing that really bothers me. Hillary told the truth about Obama during the primaries and now she’s totally reversed herself. How can she do that? I thought she was more honest than that. Even Bill has a lot of trouble sounding enthusiastic about Obama. I wonder what Hillary was promised? Were we all duped about her? Is she just another lying politician?

Wound a little too tight there oboe? It was merely a humorous and neutural quip. You clearly demonstrate that ultra leftwing nitwits have no sense of humor.

Sold his soul to the devil? He is the devil.

That is long but worth the read! Spread it far and wide.

His eyes are always lifeless and empty…

“the only people he knows are crooks.” you said it. god help us if the Chicago Punk becomes the Crook-in-Chief.

If you are concerned about John McCain’s Healthcare take a look at:

http://www.hsinetwork.com

they have a review and projected effects of McCain’s Plan and Obama’s Plan there.

I am much more optomistic about McCain’s Plan. I will protect more people quickly and do more for the most AMericans over the long term.

My husband heard something that I didn’t last night and I need some help. He said when Obama was talking about Abortion he said that he felt that and the first amendment were subject to public vote. I usually tune him out when he speaks. Is there someplace were I can see transcripts of what he actually said?
Thanks!

Yea, I totally agree Andrew. They have caved. It was my one place if I did watch the news. Now I’ll only get my news from safe filters. Like this website.

It’s Obama’s smirks that drive me nuts, at really inappropriate or strange times during the debate. And then there is a staring fierceness into the camera which I saw during the first debate that gave me the willies. When he switches off the charm button, we can often see this and it is quite frigtening.

I do agree newton. I do see hate from her. And her thesis is revealing. You would think someone that has had the best education would be more empathetic. She scares me as much as Obama does.

Thank you for the link- WHOO HOOO!!!!! Independents see the McCain for who he is and Obama as all talk no substance. They will make the difference. I believe it!

Great piece. And she well stated an important issue on economics, short and sweet. Thank you.

I had planned to skip the debate, but relented, even though the very sight of the “O” gives me indigestion.
McCain did really well, in my opinion, which is the only one that determines MY vote!
John got in the ACORN issue, and the money to said group.
He scored on the Ayers connection, that is not ancient history.
He hit the “redistibution of wealth” and the plumber over the fence.
He laid out the live-birth issue.
His health care plan should resonate with voters, for he CLEARLY stated the AVERAGE fees nationwide.
He took on the race issue by mentioning the comments of Lewis.
All in all, he compressed a lot into his time allotment…if anyone actually LISTENED!

Obama has the ears to be Jar Jar Binks.

hmmm, you get nothing but asterisks when you look it up.

Will Obama laugh & Smirk at ever leader around the world who does or says something he does not like.

This is scary we really need someone like that! Hell no.

I finished listening this morning to the debate. No, he said that abortion should NOT be a state referendum issue because of the privacy portion of the constitution, anymore than the first amendment should be a state referendum issue.

I listened this morning. The Joe the Plumber made the point….FINALLY…..about the tax implications.

Obama’s tax plan is now exposed. McCain will hit on this from here on.

And Joe’s right. Obama’s answer IS scary. Finally, finally, McCain got through Obama’s verbiage.

I thought, of course, that Obama was exposed for the charlatan he is. He’s not truthful about what he’s up to.

But whatever the voters decide, I’ll feel better now that John spelled it out for them.

It’ll be the talk of the town, for sure.

Why do you read the NYTIMES? It’s a rag these days. They are so in the tank for Obama that any notion that they’d be fair to McCain is silly thinking.

Nah*…..they get a for and an against, that’s all. It’s the spin zone.

Ferraro tickled me. She says: “Why weren’t there foreign policy issues? It’s like the war isn’t happening?” Oops* Gerry, this was the domestic policy debate.

Interesting…..I certainly hope so.

A lot of people relate to Joe the Plumber. Last night, I was tired and thought the whole thing was goofy.

I finally heard the whole debate this morning.

It was BRILLIANT!

Joe the Plumber IS what America is about….real dreams and hopes.

I’ve been ranting for 2 years now about his tax implications for small business. And 250,000 is small business profits. That’s about the breaking point when you can actually give other people real jobs with benefits, etc.

McCain FINALLY made it clear.

Lady de Rothschild

If were talking common sense here Lady de Rothschild has more knowledge to run the country than O…. he’s done nothing ziltch apart from allowing his own district to get worse letting the peoples homes fall apart…..

Lady de Rothschild would build a whole new trac for people : Obama will throw everyone on the St and say thats what the last 8 yrs did for u!!

I will make jobs does he not know the President does not make jobs it’s people like Joe the Plumber and Seattle Moss who create jobs….

Obama will get his wife a job and raise her income 4 times!!

Wake up everyone!!!

Johnny Mac and Lady Sarah all the way!

No, Hillary, however, is a Democrat who promised unity. The party rebelled against her continuing. They really would blame her if he lost unless she’s making it SUPER clear she supports her Democratic peer.

I don’t really get why you guys don’t get that one.

It’s so obvious.

Bill did everything but come out and say he’s endorsing McCain. He walked that ledge VERY carefully. He’s been a “good” Democrat, setting aside his own anger and campaigning for Obama. But he’s obviously decided that he will never play the age card against John.

Neither has Hillary, for that matter. She sticks to Democratic platform principles, and she avoids character bashing.

And she’s shown up everytime Obama asked.

The Democratic Party could not ask more.

The fact is: Hillary won, and they know it. They took the nomination away from her.

They know it, too.

And they took the nomination away from women of America.

They know that, too.

And they handed it to Obama because of race.

And we all know it.

This host is annoying as hell. He continually interrupts someone smarter and more interesting than he is in the middle of something interesting.

amen….I’m not a Fox fan.

Even if I agree, they annoy me.

PBS news for me……..or nothing.

I noticed that too, Andrew. FOXNews is getting more like CNN, except for Sean Hannity & Allan Colmes show. There must be something going on behind the curtain.
I do not trust Obama & his advisers at all. I do not feel America is safe under Obama’s watch, that is why I will vote for the ticket of McCain/Palin ’08.
Vote:
McCain/Palin ’08

God Bless America !!!

Michelle has mean look & it shows thru her eyes.She smiles only, if she is pleased of what she hears or sees.No matter how much they spend for her makeover, Michelle is still Michelle, the mean looking lady, who wants to be compared to Jackie O.
She is NOT fitted to be the First Lady!

God Save America !!!

Vote: McCain/Palin ’08

Damn, I wish I’d written that!