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“Joe the Plumber” [UPDATED]

[From Larry Johnson: The so-called progressive blogosphere is going after this guy hammer and tong. And millionaires like Obama and Biden are dismissing Joe the Plumber (aka Joe Wurzelbacher) as a clown who couldn't earn $250,000 a year. If you have contact numbers or address for Mr. Wurzelbacher let me know. I want to send him some money. We need to let him know he is not alone.]

We all know guys like “Joe the plumber.” In fact, we probably know many guys like Joe.

What do many of these individuals have in common? Work ethic, dedication to family and community goals.

“Joe” often times works two jobs. Maybe he is a fireman, works construction or has a stake in a construction business. He is a plumber and runs a bar. He is a cop and does some private security patrols. He has his own plumbing business and collects a little extra doing some property management. He has a pool business and caters parties.

He often volunteers to coach Little League and is the one working the grill at the neighborhood party. While Joe is a “great guy,” you know that if need be Joe can just as quickly say “don’t screw with me” and ”get your hand out of my pocket.”

That’s not to say that Joe is not charitable because he often will give not only of his time and talents but often is there to give his $$ for causes that he believes in, such as the local PTA board, the disabled Vet, the young widow, the church food pantry.

When Joe does know that he is getting hustled, though, how does he respond?  He takes his street smarts and he adapts.

See, what many politicians do not appreciate is that people are savvy and will always adapt to their surroundings.

If Joe has a customer or a sub who sticks him on a bill, not only will Joe NEVER work with him again but he will spread that name to his buddies and make sure that they never work with that individual.

If Joe knows he has “gotten beaten,” he will never forget. Joe is a dyed-in-the-wool American, but he knows what is fair and right for everybody needs to be fair and right for him.

He has played by the rules his whole life but there comes a point where “enough is enough.”  He pays his taxes and then he is putting money aside for the kids college education, a little extra to pay off the mortgage, a little extra to help his daughter get extra tutoring, a little extra to send to his Mom who is now living on her own after Dad passed.    

When Joe “feels that hand in his pocket,” Joe may very well start to “barter” with some of his subs and fellow blue collar workers. Joe may start to discount some of his business for cash transactions. Joe may look to increase his bartending instead of taking on another apprentice in his plumbing biz. Joe may close the shop on Saturday morning because the marginal increase in revenue “just isn’t worth it.” 

If Joe’s business is a little bigger and includes distribution and production, he will explore the possibility of opening an office in Canada or perhaps Mexico. 

See, you may think Joe is just a “regular Joe,” but Joe is America and while he is willing to give you the shirt off his back, you had better be willing to jump in the ditch with him to get the job done, as opposed to grabbing his dough and getting out of town. No, that won’t work!!   

  • johninca

    Joe is the guy who has money grabbed from him at gunpoint so politicians can give it to people who don’t work– and the worst welfare mongers are the Wall Street welfare mongers.

    • Dawnelle

      ok wow GOOD guy this Joe!

      I agree.

      • workingclass artist

        YOU NAILED IT!LD…YOU AND JOE THE PLUMBER HAVE NAILED IT…NQ ROCKS!
        This is exatly what MacDaddy means when he’s talkin about small business…and what Barky doesn’t understand…Why? BECAUSE FOR MOST OF HIS ADULT LIFE BARKY HAS EITHER BEEN ON GOVT. DOLE OF SOME SORT…OR AN IVORY TOWER…IN SHORT BARKY KNOWS NOTHIN ABOUT REALITY…NOTHIN!

        *** MOST SOCIALIST WANNABES ARE EITHER ***
        A. UNEMPLOYED
        B. ELITIST TRUSTFUND WHINERS
        C. PROFESSORIAL MAL-CONTENTS
        D. THUGS AND CRIMINAL TYPES
        E. IDELOGICAL DEMOGOGUES WITH A RESENTMENT.
        F. LAZY AND UN-TALENTED MEDIOCRITIES
        G. ANTI-SOCIAL BULLIES WITH NO PROSPECTS

        THIS LIST IS WOEFULLY INCOMPLETE…FEEL FREE TO ADD

        • Judy L. NC

          H. BLOGGERS ON DAILYKOS.COM WITH NO LIVES OF THEIR OWN EXCEPT VICARIOUSLY THROUGH “THE ONE”

          • bethtopaz

            I suggest we all send Joe the Plumber $5.00 or $10.00 to help pay his lien and a big thank you note!

            He’s done more for America in two short days than any politician could ever hope to do.

            Samuel J. Wurzelbacher
            30 Derbyshire Road
            Toledo, Ohio 43615

            • bethtopaz

              Hold off on sending anything to Joe. I hear he lives in Holland, OH which is a suburb of Toledo. I’m checking on the real address.

    • HotGreen

      Joe the Plummer is a guy that should have been vetted by John McCain before plunging him into the spotlight. Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

      This guy is in for a whirlwind media storm in which he isn’t prepared. The dirt on him is leaking out today; tax liens, voter registration. You guys should read more.

      • tek

        Joe is loving his celebrity. He told ABC as much. You should get a clue, of course Oblahma is going to trash Joe the Plumber–he’s taking votes away from Obama. Joe said he was contacted and asked to attend the rally so he knew exactly what he was getting into.

        So, troll, go away, don’t come back any other day.

        • No Obama for me

          Tek,
          HotGreen is another crazy Obamabot and should be banned by Admin.

          Looks to me like Joe the Plumber has taken on the media just great but these Obama supporters fail to acknowledge that Obama came onto Joe’s property and infringed so it appears Obama got more than he bargained for when he met up with Joe the Plumber.
          Obama is ill-equipped to take on the average American and ill-equipped to run our country.

          • Mary

            HOt Green is an idiot who doesn’t realize that every DKos moron who trashes Joe the Plumber loses votes for Barak Obama.

            Keep it up, Hot. Alienate as many Americans as you want. Go for it.

          • Mary

            HOt Green is an idiot who doesn’t realize that every DKos moron who trashes Joe the Plumber loses votes for Barak Obama.

            Keep it up, Hot. Alienate as many Americans as you want. Go for it.

            • PhxNickD

              Hotgreen does not know Joe America! Nor does he know the rest of America Joe’s.

        • Annie Oakley

          Maybe when the networks are through vetting Joe, they can get around to investigating Barack Obama.

          • Kathy

            Perfect comment! C’mon MSM, do your job! By the way, I just canceled my subscription to the Washington Post and sent them a letter so they were clear that I was canceling due to their biased, dishonest coverage of the election. The papers are hurting for money, and this is one way to get them to hear us.

          • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

            They’ll never vet obama. They already know too much about him that would destroy him. They have to prevent others from finding out how much they know and how long they’ve known it. Obama has enough dirt to fill the grandcanyon. Hope he never gives a big shake like a dog after a bath, he’d create a new mountain range.

      • Susan1968

        Yeah — the Obama-worshipping press and left-wing blogs are vetting Joe more than they ever vetted Obama.

        But that’s okay — Joe got the message out:

        Obama is a Socialist.

        • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

          I was just going to write that! haha

          They are DISGUSTING! POlitico had a story up that joe owed $1000 to some guy, and the video from msnbc was trying to pin some other party registration on him…

          it is sick!

          Poor joe!!!

          • oowawa

            (Okay, I’ll preconfess I’m a nut, so don’t flame me bro). I came up with this idea towards the end of this thread, and I think it is such a terrific idea that I am not only reposting it here, but have sent the following letter to Sean Hannity:

            Hi Sean,

            I have a terrific idea. Do you remember in the movie “Wag the Dog” how everyone threw tennis shoes over phone wires to celebrate the hero “Shoe?” Well, let’s do something similar to support Joe the Plumber. Let’s all plant a plumber’s friend (toilet plunger) in our front lawns, handle end down. It would be a more effective kind of campaign sign! Let’s go for it!

            • oowawa

              Crickets, eh? Well, I suppose wheels on luggage started out with this kind of indifference.

              • Dawnelle

                LOL – I don’t have a yard but it’s a snicker of an idea

            • Mollye

              Hey, I like it!!! Great idea for those of us afraid to put signs in our yard!!!
              Doing it tomorrow!

            • KatherineK

              I’m totally doing it. As I live in Seattle AKA Obamawood (and I mean the wood part in every possible sense of the word) and if I put a McCain sign in my yard my car would get keyed. I do still have my Hillary sign up however but it’s in my door not in my yard so so maybe no one notices. Anyhoo, I’m totally into the plunger, good idea!

            • Lathegod

              I never would have thought of that, I just happen to have 4 plungers, and only 2 bathrooms. Lets create a movement! Somebody smarter than me can help spread the word. I’ll do everything I can to help.

            • bethtopaz

              I just sent your idea to Hugh Hewitt (who’s been talking about Joe the Plummer for two days and thinks he is going to be a real game changer for the election) and Rush Limbaugh who has been doing the same thing.

              Joe the Plummer is our William Wallace (Braveheart).

              “I am William Wallace. And, I see a whole army of my country men, here in defiance of tyranny. You’ve come to fight as freemen, and freemen you are. What will you do without freedom?! Will you fight?
              Man: No . . . we will run . . . and we will live.
              William Wallace: Aye. Fight and you may die. Run and you’ll live, at least a while. And, dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance — just one chance — to come back here and tell our enemies, that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!

              — Braveheart

            • JustMe

              LOL gonna get my plunger right now LOL that is so funny!!

              • BE

                I’m gonna put a plunge in my yard tonight!

            • Lathegod

              I’m going to paste your idea on youtube. Let roll with this!!!

            • johninca

              If only it were so easy to flush Obama’s campaign down the toilet.

        • Margaret

          Yup, Joe is getting the message out. And, he’s so freakin’ credible, it’s great!

      • SnarlingCur

        Keep trashing the common man, and see how the general public responds.

        I don’t think you’ll like the answer.

      • johnqpublic

        obama and the media attack on an average citizen (average joe) will backfire badly. mark my words.

        • Margaret

          Yup, cause all us regular folks can identify with Joe. So they’re attacking us, all average Americans, when they attack Joe. That’ll hurt at the ballot box.

          Watch, next they’ll say Joe’s racist. Freakin’ pathetic.

          • bethtopaz

            Apparently Charlie Gibson and the media are already saying he is.

        • Conservative Chick

          Obama was totally trashing Joe the plumber at a rally saying, “How many plumbers do you know make $250,000?” He was mocking him. Of course Obama doesn’t know any plumbers because all his friends are thugs and Joe Biden doesn’t either know any in his 4 million dollar a house neighborhood. But, my cousin owns a plumbing company, and in 2007 they paid $150,000 in taxes and made over $500,000. Jim Angle on Fox was saying that 70% of small businesses make over $250,000 and they are the ones with over 10 employees that create the most jobs. I think this was so stupid of Obama. He stepped right in it. Now if McCain can just hammer this whole thing out for a couple weeks, we have a chance.

      • angie

        You obviously don’t own a small business and/or don’t pay taxes — a piddly $1,000 in back taxes is not uncommon for small business owners & doesn’t really compare to the $800,000 Obama gave Acorn OR the $300,000 Rezko paid for the lot so Obama could own the $1.6 million house of his dreams OR the $200,000 he gave along with Ayers to radical schools. But you stay on this Joe the Plumber. BWAWAWA!!!

      • sandy gonzo

        Joe is your average “Joe”. Lots os American’s are in Debt. And lots of trade people pratice without a Lic under a Master Lic. You pods are just disgusting. Why don’t you vet the Fraud . Hey, are you White? His wonderful advisor Mansour says it’s ok to EAT White people. Now that’s the change we have all been waiting for.

      • Newly Independent

        Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

        Admit it.

        You Obama clowns are jealous of the attention, love and support that Sarah Palin receives from her supporters throughout the country. WITHOUT the support of a 24/7 B.S. MSM hype machine. Which is why you Obama creeps just can’t seem to stop talking about her like a dog.

        Obama and Biden crapping on “Joe the plumber” means that they crap on most American voters. And will continue to do so if elected.

        On November 4th, in voting booths all over the United States, millions of “Joe the plumbers” will support John McCain.

        • JustMe

          HotGreen how do you earn your money is it hot???

          Were not into your Hot Messiah!!
          gee whizz even me too much over my paygrade should be zetted like hes gone after Joe….

          Whats he hiding

          Hot Ayers
          Hot Rezko
          Very Hot Wright

          and HotGreen well that says it all!!

          bet that money burnas a hole in ya pocket : JUST SAYIN~~

      • doc99

        My friend, a man who couldn’t pass an FBI background check is running for President. Joe is a private citizen. If only the media had done its homework and investigated Obama as thoroughly as they’re going after Joe.

        Oh, and BTW, Knoxville TN has its own Joe the Plumber. It’s a movement I tell you.

      • Ai1een

        JOHN MCCAIN SHOULD VET THE PLUMMER????????????????
        WTF????
        HALF OF AMERICA IS STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE…THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA…SOMEONE TO VET BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA – THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN U.S. HISTORY!!!

        But John McCain should VET the PLUMMER…ROTFL – GOOD ONE.

      • DESGANS

        FRANCE:

        Tout le monde dit que votre BHO a gagné, alors pourquoi êtes vous si haineux ?
        Vous devriez sauter de joie, à moins que votre inconscient (si vous avez un cerveau), sente que quelque chose se prépare .

        • johninca

          C’est le culte d’Obama qui est haineux du peuple Americain.

        • johninca

          Forgot to translate. This French guy says that everyone says BHO has won, so why are we so hateful? We should be jumping for joy unless our subconscious (if we have a brain) realizes that something is up.

          If he were American this guy would fit right in with Obama’s cult. I’m too tired to tell him in French that we don’t appreciate stolen votes, caucus goons and vandalism from Obama’s thugs.

      • stodghie

        not so hotgreen, you are disgusting. let’s put your history on here. come little fellah, let’s have it. waiting? crickets i see!

    • johnqpublic

      it is time to speak out!!! we need to make a thread with contact e-mail for all major media outlets and the dnc. we can send e-mails to them and they must know that an attack on private citizens will not be tolerated. i am mad and ready

    • Tom

      How many of you have a “net income” over $250k – no one … No plumbers, teachers, policemen, firemen, nurses, mechanics – you get the idea.

      Come on people do not drown in your own rhetoric. Obama’s tax cuts will benefit those who need it most – the middle class and small businesses.

      If you are not willing to give back to the community when your net income is $280k and your tax increases by $900 – you are unpatriotic, selfish, spoiled and just plain stupid to complain about $900 when you earned $280k.

      For “Joe” to earn a net income greater than $250k from a small business, his revenues would be considerably larger.

      And now McCain is distorting the conversation between “Joe” and Obama in a new ad. Basically, it tries to show that Obama will raise taxes – even for an average American like “Joe” – which is false, since “Joe” approached him as a small business owner earning more than $250k.

      I own a small business and wish that my net income exceeded $250k. If it did, I would gladly pay an additional 3% on that income over $250k. When you earn this kind of money, 3% is chump change. And this chump change is needed to put our country and economy back on track.

      We live in a country where we have the opportunity to earn an amazing amount of money. Those that are fortunate and lucky enough to benefit from the opportunities that exist in this country also have the responsibility to pay higher taxes.

  • Sue

    I know lots of Joes and let me tell you, he’s a good guy for sure.

    Senator Government hates Joe the Plumber.

    • Urban Hillbilly

      Senator Government thinks Joe is just a typical white plumber.

      • No Obamislamists

        Dailykooks is already starting a trash and attack Joe the Plumber campaign….I don’t think it will be long before the Obama thugs start physically threating him.

        http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/16/111449/53/191/632401

        • johninca

          Hell hath no fury like a welfaremonger scorned.

        • trails

          They’d better watch out. I’m not sure that Joe qualifies as a public person. People trashing private individuals can be sued–especially if malicious intent is involved. Same thing if you damage someone’s business.

        • ritamary

          The anti Joe the Plumber t-shirts will be next. “Joe the Plumber is a *$%#@!” Obots are very predictable.

      • Above My Pay Grade

        Senator Government thinks Joe is just a typical white plumber.

        Bitterly clinging to his wrench and plunger!

        • oowawa

          It’s like Joe Six-Pack was suddenly incarnated and dropped to earth. Instant icon!

        • Urban Hillbilly

          Sen. Government thinks Joe The Plumber is bitterly clinging to the people’s currency!

    • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

      Senator Government hates Joe the Plumber.
      Great T Shirt!

      When did Diane Sawyer become so despicable? Joe handled himself very well. She had absolutely no right to force him to divulge his income level.
      ” But you don’t make that much money now, do you?”
      How much does she make to be a condescending no nothing ‘journalist’?
      What a bitc jerk!(Average Jane speak for- how unprofessional) :)

      • tek

        McHope: I love your comment. You’re exactly right. Just think how many millions these anchors are pulling from the big corps. Who are they to go after average Americans and try to sway their votes. It’s obvious she is totally in the tank for the Chicago Crook.

    • workingclass artist

      SUE…I work in construction…lol…a lot of the contractors I know see exactly what Barky is talkin about…
      Here’s how they see it…Why should my money go to a junkie or someother slacker…Why should my money go to the government…

      I mean Barky and the socialists keep talking down to these people…Just like they did in the primaries…

      • tek

        Workingclassartist: I agree with you. If we had a good, honest government giving us some benefit for our taxes it might be different, but we will not have that under Obama/Biden. Still, I think it’s outrageous to have to pay 45% of what you earn to the government. With the AMT that’s what we pay.

        I’m afraid under Obama, the Dems are returning to their ’70s tax and spend and support everything illegal and unpatriotic meme.

      • http://deleted OBSP

        Once I saw, junkies and junkie parents receiving Social Security Disability when they never contributed, I just got pissed. I was unemployed for quite awhile after 9/11 and after unemployment ran out, savings depleted and 401K exhausted, I got no government assistance. When I ask for heating assistance, I was told I did not qualify because of my previous year earnings. So now they are asking me to continue this pratice and possibly extend it, the only thing I can say is HELL NO!

        • workingclass artist

          OBSP…I am 48 years old…Recieved unemployment once for 2 months in 1992. That was also the last time I was employed by a corporation. Since 1992 I have had to make sacrifices and in my profession it’s always fly by the seat o your pants…When I don’t get paid it’s because the client is an evil ass…It doesn’t happen often but it does happen. I’ve had cliets with more money then dirt that decided not to pay…and just said sue me.
          One client I worked for screwed over every contractor on a job site and hired a law firm in another city just to handle the claims. $ 11,000.00 may not seem like a lot of money but it is to a small contractor who has to pay his labor and equipment rental etc…
          This rich a-hole just arbitrarily decided to short pay every contractor $11,000.00…Now I didn’t charge that much and I got paid in full but then he tried to blame me for damage to the work that was done with water damage months after I was gone…
          What do a-holes doo a small contractors life…sheeesh!
          Do I want to punish the wealthy because of this a-hole…NOPE…Most of my wealthy clients are great people…
          This guy was a spoiled dot.com a-hole…YEP! a dot.com a-hole with delusions of relevance…
          My best clients are guys like joe the plumber who work their way up and out…and value hard work and quality…something that barky who has had either a hand out or a paved way his whole life!….sheeesh! I’ll bet Barky has never done any heavy lifting in all of his precious life…WHAT A PRINCE!
          IF I LOSE WORK…I BETTER FIND SOMETHING ELSE CAUSE I’M WHITE AND DON’T GET WELFARE…
          I HAVE AN MFA FROM AN IVY LEAGUE…AND CAN’T GET A TEACHING JOB OR A GALLERY…WHY? CAUSE I’M NOT FASHIONABLE…BEING WHITE AND ALL…
          AM I CRYIN A RIVER…NOPE! ADAPT…LEARN A NEW TRADE…MOVE ON…WORK IT OUT!
          The government would not help me…Catholic Charities helped me when it was bad…They don’t care what color your skin is…
          Barky’s solutions are not solutions…You’d think given my history and income level I’d be all for it…NOPE!…I would be ashamed to take what I hadn’t earned…charity is one thing when your down and out and need a hand up…Stealing is another…and taxing the rich because they are rich is just as bad as Price gouging by the neighborhood…IT IS WRONG ANYWAY YOU CUT IT!…THIS MARXIST CLASS WARFARE HAS GOTTA GO AND BARKY AND HIS SOCIALIST GLAM SHAM SHOULD BE BOOTED OUTTA THE COUNTRY…BY A WORKINGCLASS BOOT!

          • http://deleted OBSP

            Working Class I agree with you. My dear friend left corporate american and became a school teacher with Chicago Public Schools. In 1999 she had so many request from parents to declare their children disable, which both of us thought that label would their child and limit their lives/opportunity for $432 a month in benefits so they could sit on their ass. $432 is not a lot of money if the parents were using it toward homeword studies or something to assist in their childs learning, but no, it was to assist them.
            It’s hard to pull your self up for adversay, but in America you can. But, I do not want to subsides people that want to sleep in like I want to do every day at 5 AM ( it takes a lot of time for makeup application)

            • http://deleted Buzz Latte

              I know what you mean. I don’t know how any teacher that has been in the profession more than three years can still support the Dems and Obama.

              I worked in low economic schools which meant the majority of families were on some type of assistance. The phone calls would jam the lines into the schools if a welfare parent thought that their child hadn’t received a free haircut, a pair of boots, a pair of mittens, or a free coat provided by the school. They would claim they didn’t have the money to buy school supplies but were the first ones to buy DVDs or Xbox games. Most were capable enough to hold down a job, but some got paid more being on welfare and so their career became professional welfare recipient.

              The last school I worked in had a population that included about 30% ESL spanish speaking mexican children, of which many were illegals and so were their parents. The whole family would show up for every freebie the school had to offer. They would bring the whole family for school lunch and be the first in line to pick up the lice shampoo the school offered for free. If it was free, they wanted it. Then they would return to Mexico to vacation for two months in the winter. Thus, screwing up all the No Child Left Behind stats.

              To be fair, some, very few, parents did get themselves to school or found a job. Not all of the mexicans were illegal or such freeloaders, but the majority were.

              It didn’t take me long to question why I got up every day, busted my butt, got respiratory illnesses from the kids who had no medical attention, and spent my own money to supplement school supplies and to have snacks on hand for those that hadn’t eaten breakfast. All the while their mom or dad was still laying in bed.

              I do not begrudge anyone who is truly disabled or in between a rock and a hard place if they need assistance. It’s the chronic ones who were capable that galled me the most.

              Now Obama wants to enable them even further. What incentive to college students have when they know they could get an Obama handout?

          • Maverick

            Whoo hoo. Workingclass is on a roll..proceed.

      • Sue

        My husband cleans carpets for a living and I run a child care business in my home. Our other family members are small business owners (farmers, trucking companies, and one owns a plumbing business! LOL). We all work hard, pay our bills and give to charity. Isn’t that what this country is all about?

        We know Joe, because we are Joe. It infuriates me the way Obama and the media are trying to crucify this guy. It’s going to backfire on them bad and they’re so clueless they don’t even know it.

        Can I just say I love this blog?

    • http://chriss chris

      Well he sure changed his tune. OB was all salivating to talk to Joe about his grand plan and how Joe should be on board for heaven’s sake. Obama’s slip of the truth has gotten him in very hot water and he doesn’t like it one bit. What does he do? Of course, he mocks and laughs and tries to divert attention from the fact that HE SAID IT HIMSELF. He didn’t really mean it you know and Joe was pretty stupid not to get it. I am loving it! I hope they play the Joe stuff over and over for the next 2 weeks. Maybe America will finally wake up and start to understand where Obama is coming from. I am praying for that. The poor MSM are in a tizz because they have to report this. Too funny.

  • typewriterstreaming

    It’s disgusting how they are out there trashing Joe – Biden said at an event today “He’s not a real plumber” What a heartless freak Biden is.

    OT: Drag Queen Involved in ACORN Scandal Flashes Reporter

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e43_1224086229&p=1

    • Sue

      Joe Biden is an idiot. Keep it up Biden. Keep trashing the regular, hard working guy. It’s going to blow up in your face.

      • workingclass artist

        Joe Biden is a drunk…and when drunks are consumed with ego they do not like anybody tellin them what is…see what i’m sayin’
        Biden is the kind of drunk that could be layin in a gutter covered by his own filth and he’d still be lookin down his nose at people…Pffft!

        We all know people like Joe the plumber…and we also know asses like Barky and Joey the plagiarizin fool…sheeeesh!

  • Alice Paul WPB

    I was just on SodaHead answering a survey and saw someone comment that Joe isn’t even registered to vote.

    Don’t know if thats BS being pushed by Bots, but thought I would bring it up before they do.

    If anyone knows let me know. Thanks!

    • Sue

      They were spelling his name wrong.

      Joe is registered to vote..as a Republican.

      • Alice Paul WPB

        Thanks, I figured it was just Bots being Bots!

        • Sue

          You are most welcome.

        • No Obamislamists

          Only Obama would tell a small business Republican that he’s from the government and here to help spread Joe the Plumber’s wealth.

          Also notice how Obamacus also called the commie terrorists that threating normal people to support the Marxists in Columbia “labor leaders”.

          Like McCain says, he’s eloquent, but you have to listen to what Obama says because he’s shifty and can’t tell the truth to save his life

    • tek

      Alice: watch the video.

  • hadenough

    Somebody forgot to tell the FBI that ACORN voter fraud was no big deal:

    Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election.
    http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=213&sid=1498414

    • Diana L. C.

      HillBuz had a great article about this. The Nevada investigation could be very interesting and possibly do the job of connecting the dots to the Obama people.

      Remember the disagreement during the primary about letting casino workers caucus at work? The Clintons said not, but Obama insisted and got his way. And, of course he had his labor leaders (i.e., commies) behind him. Rumor is people were getting their ballots already marked in for them and may have been told they didn’t get off to caucus unless they voted Obama—anyway something like that.

      I just wish some of these investigations could go faster.

      • Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

        SEIU (services union representing many casino workers) and ACORN are connected (see: Wade Rathke), after all. They even shared the same address in Louisianna.

        Apparently SEIU filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of ACORN recently.

    • Maverick

      Of course they did. They had their associate company, move-on to have training camps in the smmer of 2007.
      voter fraud
      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=915_1223495080

  • Urban Hillbilly

    Joe the Plumber is representin’ on the TV! Go Joe!

  • Susan1968

    In less that 12 hours the left wing press, TV media and blogs havesomehow dug up more dirt on Joe the Plumber than they have on Obama. Some are calling him a racist too.

    Amazing.

    If they keep attacking Joe The Plumber I sense it will backfire on them.

    Still — Joe got out his message and it resonates.

    Obama is a socialist. Obama wants to redistribute wealth.

    Obama did this to himself — he couldn’t stop himself from trying to charm a guy who clearly didn;t want to vote for him.

    The left is going nuts trying to crucify a plumber now. Oh. My. God.

    • Alice Paul WPB

      Well in my faith they crucified a carpenter so he’s in good company!

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm…Alice Jesus was workingclass…with workingclass values…

    • oowawa

      Joe the Plumber has the iconic symbolic power of the character “Shoe” in “Wag the Dog.” If they try to crucify this icon, they will destroy themselves.

      • kgirl1028

        AND HE HAD ZERO INTEREST WITH IN POLITICS

    • johnqpublic

      attack the messenger is their pathetic game plan for everything. joe pulled back the curtain and exposed the great obama as a socialist on tv and now they want to destroy joe because he told the truth.

      • stodghie

        all joe did was ask a question. whoever recorded it put it out there on video. don’t attack the man for asking a question. what has become of this country?

    • methinks

      The left is freaking out because a common man explained Socialism to them and the rest of America, in terms they can understand. And now they are thinking twice about what will happen to their own hard earned cash.

      Big Brother is watching and soon he will be in their pockets.

  • cathnealon

    Hey how long did you bet that it would take before the thugs started going after Joe–probably been going through his trash cans since BO met him.

    • No Obamislamists

      http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/16/111449/53/191/632401

      Dailykooks is doing just that. These people are out of their minds with hatred and anger! And they call McCain voters angry? Dailykooks is SEETHING WITH RAGE over Good Ol’ Joe.

      • oowawa

        They may come out with their torches and pitchforks, but you cannot kill a true archetype, and that’s what Joe is. He will come back from the “dead” in the final scene. This is the kind of symbolic character that they will not be able to exorcise.

      • jjsmoof

        hope they never need a plumber.

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    RNC Ad: Do You Want Obama Sitting in This Chair?

    http://patriotroom.com/?p=3046

    • Maverick

      That’s the best ad I have ever seen. Mac should play it more.

  • Steve in KC

    “It’s a slippery slope, where’s it gonna stop?”

    No matter what BO promises in tax cuts, and where he defines the dividing line, he’s not a dictator (hell, he most likely won’t even be a mere president). It’s going to be up to Congress to devise a final plan for a vote. He used to say those making under $250k would not be taxed more, now I’m hearing those making under $200k. By the time it works through Congress, there won’t be any tax cuts, and likely higher taxes for everyone to pay for all the hand-outs and freebies BO wants for his “constituency.”

    • tzada

      He has said 150K before.

    • Tuppence 411

      Barky’s “plan” is 250K for married couples, 200K for singles. How about this bull crap about only 5% of familes make that. Maybe its where I live in the country, but come on! A nurse married to a fireman, both working overtime. A plumber or an electrician busting his a$$. If they have been responsible and saved or invested, add in interest income or dividends. Maybe rental property income. Could easily be at 250K or dang close to it. More importantly, why penalize them for trying??

      What a disincentive. At exactly the wrong time for our economy. Why work overtime? Why save? Why invest? Why bust your a$$ and produce?

  • typewriterstreaming

    “When Joe “feels that hand in his pocket,”

    Larry Sinclair has been saying Michelle doesn’t know it all about Barky.

  • ford

    Biden and Obama will be hit hard on attacking Joe, but of course the MSM will help in every way.

    I hope Joe tells the American People what they are doing to him every day for the next few weeks…

    you know some A holes will be showing up to protest at his house soon and “get up in his face”….Joey might just put a hurtung on them…

  • Patience

    The attacks on Joe have already started — his home address has been revealed on some blog, he may not have a proper license?, and of course Biden and Obama are mocking and discrediting him.

    We have to stand up to this constant character assassination of any effective opposition to The One.

    Today, we are all Joe Plumbers!!!

    • typewriterstreaming

      We PUMA’s have been attacked like this since the primaries. I hope to hell this gets out in a major way. People need to know what kind of speech supression we’re getting with the Facist Obama.

      • Pennsylvania goes RED!

        Since when is attacking the citizen whose vote you want a winning strategy?

        Oh wait, I think I know…since ACORN registered millions of cartoon characters and dead people, the elitist Commiecrats don’t have to cater to Joe the Plumber, Joe Six Pack, or the traditional Democrat base.

        Got it.

        • Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

          Since when is attacking the citizen whose vote you want a winning strategy?

          He doesn’t think he needs Joe’s vote. Just like he doesn’t think he needs PUMA votes. I think he thinks that attacking us actually helps EARN him the votes of others who support socialist ideas like this “redistribution of wealth”.

          Joe, from a PUMA, welcome to the community that lives under the bus. We’ve been here for a while, so we’ve had the chance to make it pretty homey. I’ll just forewarn you to stay away from that community segment on the far left side that contains names like Wright and Pfleger.

    • John Smith

      He does not need a license for residential work. It is too late anyway for the Obama camp. I got a frantic call from my brother, who’s name is also Joe, about the 250K tax. He said that he heard about it on the radio. He has never been involved in politics. I was very surprised he would call me about this. If he is concerned then Florida is concerned and that means McCain got this thing in the bag. Obama lost this election a long time ago but nailed the his coffin shut when he uttered the words “We want to spread the wealth around”.

      • oowawa

        Joe the Plumber, Joe Six-Pack, your brother Joe: the Joes of the world are waking up, and they are not happy. This is a game changer.

    • No Obamislamists

      Obama will have to pry my money from my cold dead fingers before he spreads any of my wealth [RACIST-SOUNDING CONTENT REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]

      • meileen

        This reeks of racism.

        Administrator, cleanup on aisle 3.

        • [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME]

          Go take a gander at Reverend Wright’s racist screeds and then tell me I’m over the top. Frankly, ME AND MY “GARLIC NOSE” ARE FREAKING SICK TO DEATH that every comment is being twisted charges of racism.

          The only racists in this election are Obama, Wright, Ayers and the rest of the ObamAcorn nuts.

          [ADMINISTRATOR: YOU CAN'T POST COMMENTS HERE until you change your username. It's inflammatory.]

          • meileen

            I agree that real racism was spouted by Rev. Wright. And I believe that the Obama campaign has used the race card ad nauseam during this campaign. However, your comment about, “…lazy no good ACORN welfare receipients who just want to live off of the “white man” because it’s too much work to be responsible for themselves,” does not make you or others at this site look good. I like to think we here at NQ are above that.

            Just sayin’.

          • http://www.rgemonitor.com/roubini-monitor/253818/roubini_sees_silent_run_on_banks_urges_triage_bloomberg_radio_interview ablebodied

            Nah…f123 that. If the only people who were lazy no good ACORN welfare recipients were white people, what would be the point of bringing the ‘white man’ in it? You ain’t slick. Neither Jerimiah ‘garlic nose’ Wright. Check the prejudice. If they get an ACORN assisted loan, voter registration, welfare they must be…right. Check that s123. Not on this site. There are only a few like this left. We’re just sayin’.

            • IslamIsNotaHappyFuzzyReligion

              Here’s the statement from Trinity Church, you know, the one Obama sat in for 20 years:

              http://www.millionsforreparations.com/theologicalresolution.html

              Are you telling me that you give Obama the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t know or hear about this too in the 20 years in the pews of Trinity?

              And while the same time his in the mist of Jeremiah Wright fever he’s doing lawyer and training work for ACORN.

              http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1991483/posts

              On the Web-site of the Philadelphia chapter of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (N’COBRA) is this suggestion: Order the new DVD “N’COBRA 2007 Annual Conference Gala: A Call For Justice And Repair” featuring Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.! The featured speaker at that conference was Barack Obama’s pastor, whose hate/racist-rhetoric Obama has been trying hard to condemn lately.

              That conference was held in June 2007. This is a paragraph from the Philadelphia Daily News of 21 June 2007: “Tonight, a fiery supporter of reparations for black enslavement, the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, the Chicago pastor of presidential candidate Barack Obama, will deliver the keynote speech for the 18th annual N’COBRA conference at 7 p.m. at First District Plaza Ballroom, 3801 Market St.”

  • johninca

    Did Biden go off again?

    Is Mr. Blue-Collar-I’m-From-Scranton attacking Joe the Plumber now?

    Vote these bastards out; they never should have been voted in.

    • typewriterstreaming

      And of course this:
      Secret Service says “Kill him” allegation unfounded
      will get zero attention in the MSM – even though
      Oblowme announced tashed Palin for this yesterday.

      • Patience

        Drudge has this covered today!

      • tzada

        The Drudge Report has/had it up today.

    • workingclass artist

      Joe the plagiarzer Biden can kiss my workingclass independent contractor ASS…sheeesh!

      WIN WITHOUT ME!

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    Joes of America Unite!

    No more stealing from the hard workers of America to give to those who won’t work. Yes, the bona fide disabled folks are a different story.

    After years of working in the public sector and seeing the abuses of the welfare system by those who enabled themselves to be helpless, I have run out of sympathy.

    I am with Joe now. NO more welfare for the slackers. NO Obama, ever!

    • Mollye

      Ditto!

  • lark

    I hate O but not specifically because he is Senator Government but because he is completely irresponsible and self-aggrandizing.

    So O wants to help the people that are coming behind Joe the Plumber once Joe the Plumber invests his money to own or manage his plumbing company. Good thing to do and to think about. But what’s irresponsible of Oblahblah is that we have now ways of helping those folks and those folks are wasting those opportunities. Oblahblah wants to force the issue of helping people all over again after they wasted all the time previously in lousy entertaining endeavors.

    We have education here from K to 12. It is the responsibility of those educators to educate those folks behind Joe the Plumber right now and they are getting paid for it and they are not doing their jobs. Plus those folks can care less about improving themselves when they have the opportunity to do it.

    Simply put BHO wants to get more money to educate some more but disregards the money being spend right now. That’s wrong.

    Simply put the educational system needs a complete reconstruction. Colleges and universities need to completely redraw their goals and objectives.

    You do not need one single penny more. Actually if everything in education would get redesigned, you would probably get vasts amount of savings.

    Just because students and people chose to waste their formative years in wasteful entertainment, that does not mean we need to destroy our futures with theirs.

    Joe the Plumber does not need to do but to carry his responsibilities responsibly.

    • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

      There is no education in the school system. We all have to be sensitive enough to realize telling a child that you suck at math is a blow to his ego.

      Instead they need to learn to redefine the F not a “failing”, but as “future”. And that the child should always look to the future and hope that math will not be important in whatever his future endeavors are. And also understand that if, somehow, math is important and needed in his future, that Uncle Barack will be there with a check to make sure that he too can drive a Mercedes… or at least a Chevy, and that he can also own a home despite not having a job or any discernible skills.

      Political correctness is killing our children.

    • Zimeeisme

      What is scary is that Obama wants teacher pay to be based on performance. What will those standards be? As a teacher, this only pits teachers against teachers…usually focuses on test scores…disqualifies teachers of those that are “hard to teach”. Bad Idea!

      Remember Obama distributed money to ridiculous programs…nothing to do with achievement…produced 0 results. He is just going to throw money at the problem. I have a feeling that he would make our educational system corrupt.

      One more point on unions…Up in Indiana you were forced to pay union dues even if you did not belong to the union. Thank goodness a lawsuit ended that.

      Obama is just plain bad no matter how you look at it.

      • Mary

        Obama doesn’t control education as president.

        The STATES control education, and teacher pay.

        This is just another one of those empty promises The ONE says to make people feeeeel good.

        He can’t dictate teacher pay. It’s a state responsibility.

        • athena

          Department of Education…..that is a FEDERAL AGENCY.

          NO child left Behind……a federal intitative.

  • Green Eagle

    We all know men like Joe the Plumber. I have a great plumber myself.

    Of course, my plumber isn’t related to Charles Keating.

    • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

      Is he related to Raila Odinga?

      • Andrew

        He is the fifth cousin several times removed. Obama is related to Brad Pitt, does that mean anything, no! Give it up bots!

      • http://deleted Buzz Latte

        HEEHEE!!

        That’s was a perfect comeback, McHope.

        I have a great plumber, electrician, and carpenter rolled into one. He works his azz off and regularly puts in 12-15 hour days running a small business.
        He’s not real happy with Obama and his rob the piggy bank financial plan. He’s provided and saved and invested and stayed conservative.

        He’s never voted Dem and for the first time I’ll be voting GOP with him. Dang, and I love him to for being a true american!

        • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

          Send my love to him, too, Buzz. Every hard working , patriotic, American deserves our admiration!

          This former Dem will be voting like the two of you and all the other good old American ‘Joes’ :)

    • No Obama for me

      Green Eagle,

      Go fuck yourself.

    • Newly Independent

      We all know men like Joe the Plumber. I have a great plumber myself.

      Great.

      Too bad you won’t have Barack Obama as President of the United States.

      You’ll just have to alleviate your elitist “guilt” some other way.

  • blog force one

    Senator BIG Government wants to rob all of the Joe plumbers in America to “spread the wealth around ” like street thugs who rob an old lady after cashing her check . I say NO! to Senator BIG Government!

    • athy

      blog force one-
      nice analogy!

  • Artemis

    Joe gets it – one candidate wants him to keep his own money — the other candidate wants him to understand why he shouldn’t be allowed to keep his own money.(“Be grateful to be pick-pocketed. Repeat after me, It’s for the greater good”) A friend of mine (Obama-supporter, though now not so sure) emailed me this Wall Street Journal article that outlines the real story behind Obama’s specious claim that “95% of the people will get a tax-cut” under his plan. Glad to see some of the Obots are still reading something other than profane t-shirts. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

  • IronMan

    Obama (aka Senator Government) represents a direct assault on hardworking Americans and the American dream! Obama and his radical socialist government agenda must be defeated!

    Between the Obama campaign attacking Joe the plumber and people like Jack Murtha accusing all of Western PA as being racists, Obama is looking more and more like the radical socialist and race baiter that he is! Obama is not a uniter. He’s a liar that wants to punish hard work in America and increase taxes! That will weaken the economy and kill jobs!

    Senator Government = jobs killer

    The American people have had enough of Obama’s BS!

    Country First!

    McCain-Palin ’08

    • tzada

      The MSM is now going after Joe about not having a license,when he said he didn’t need one because he worked under someone, they checked and found out that the owner didn’t have one. Dirty scum balls in Obama’s pocket.

    • Urban Hillbilly

      I am going to ask my Obama supporting family members, how they feel about Obama supporters constantly calling voters are racist.

      It is one of the most annoying and sanctimonious crap piles. The Murtha’s of the world are so freakin’ holier-than-thou– just because he supports Obama, he can call others racist. What a load…

  • May

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27215561#27215561

    Joe also loves America, loves Jesus and believes that we went into Iraq for the right reasons.

    I have mentioned here before I am a Republican who very much wanted to vote for Hillary, but will never vote for Obama.

    I was just wondering if ya’ll can understand Joe’s position on Iraq.

    • HC

      I dont have to understand Joe’s position on Iraq. Joe is not running for office.

      But if Joe wants to come over for a beer to discuss it, come on by!

      • ritamary

        None of us have to understand Joe’s position on Iraq. What is your point May?

    • tzada

      It was surprising to me that MSNBC would put out this video. Surprised in a nice way, because it says so much about Obama without calling him out.

  • blog force one

    Senator BIG Government doesn’t “want to punish Joe” he just think he has to to help “spread the wealth around” Obama equals Socialism!!!!

  • samb

    I watched the debate last night and it left me with a huge question mark not in my mind, in what the country will do? Then late last night I watched a documentary on HBO called Taxi From The Darkside it wasn’t about McCain but there scenes were McCain stood there talking about how wrong torture is and how it needs to be stop, he did this alone. I don’t agree with McCain on everything but I saw true courage.

  • tzada

    I thought this was out!

    By Law, Groups Like ACORN Will Get Money When You Take Out A Mortgage.
    By Andrew Riley • Oct 15th, 2008 • 426 Views
    This is what Congressman John Culberson said on Glenn Beck the other night.
    “From this day forward we will all be paying 4.2% basis fee of $420 for every $100,000 mortgage in your closing paper will have papers. You’ll have a new little line in there, a new fee that we’re going to all pay to go straight to these affordable housing funds which the states then hard wire to La Raza, ACORN, groups like that.” – Congressman John Culberson in an interview with Glenn Beck, October 13, 2008
    This is from the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008. You can read the bill on the Library of Congress website. It’s dry reading, but I’ve picked out the parts relevant to this topic.
    H.R. 3221, the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008

    http://www.allamericanblogger.com/4148/sign-a-mortgage-and-acorn-gets-a-cut-its-the-law/

    • lark

      This idiot Congressman was saying to Cavuto yesterday that he wants the stimulus to go to 450 billion.

    • tek

      This is the kind of crap Obama and Durbin have managed to get through the legislature with the help of Rahm Emanuel in Illinois. We have the Dream Act–tax dollars that pay for illegal hispanics to get a college education in IL. I didn’t even know Durbin had managed to influence the State Assembly into passing that until Obama became the Dem nominee.

    • Mary

      Wow, tzada……so when the Dems told us Acorn $$$ had been removed from the bailout bill, they just slipped into a different bill instead.

      Stunning.

  • Mary

    Hey Larry,
    Thanks for passing on–no, swearing to–the disinformation you were fed about the Republicsn’s “Octobr surrprise.”

    • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

      Hey Mary,
      Thanks for supporting the corrupt, lying, terrorist- appeasing approving socialist for President you were fed by the liberal media.

      • oowawa

        Careful McHope, you’re liable to be accused of being a racist Joeist!

        • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

          If the political winds should shift I will stand with the Joes. ;)

          • Annie Oakley

            And Joe will answer that 3 am phone call. He won’t be happy about it, but he will answer.

          • Kristen

            Priceless McHope! You rock.

          • http://deleted Buzz Latte

            I stand with you, McHope. The Joes of America are a far better deal than the shifty, corrupt, and all to secretive likes of Obama.

          • http://deleted Buzz Latte

            I stand with you, McHope. The Joes of America are a far better deal than the shifty, corrupt, and all too secretive likes of Obama.

          • Seattle Moss

            McHope..

            When I see Joe I see all the trials and tribulations I have gone through in life to be successful.
            Obama has committed the biggest mistake of the campaign and the fact that he got roasted for it at the Smith memorial means that the momentum has shifted to McCain in a big way.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      Mary,
      Not that you have the intellectual ability to grasp this concept, but two of the three sources are democrats who are supporting Obama. They learned about the tape.

      • don tufts

        get her big guy,btw how pissed are you at me?you can email me and tell me im a idiot if you want.

  • lark

    All people need to be told is, ‘children of 3rd. grade, the third grade is going to be given to you once. Parents take note. We will do everything within our means to get you through it successfully. If you fail, the next third grade will be charged to your parents. Do you understand this?’

    ‘Fourth graders, listen, the third grade material is over, gone, we will not be going over that material again. We are going to teach 4th. grade material to you. The fourth grade will be taught to you once. We will do everything we can for you to learn this material. If you fail and you have to repeat it, then there will be a charge to your parents.’

  • Liz B

    I am married to my own “Joe, The Plumber”…only my guy is “Ed, the HVAC Technician”, and yes, he has also been a volunteer fireman, and he rean an ambulence up in Philly on the weekends. My guy Coaches Football for one of our son’s team, and he is looking forward to obataining his Masters License in HVAC in May, something that requires ten documented years in the Industry to even qualify to sit for the test.
    I have been a Mom to our kids, and driven a School bus for the County Schools, and helped out our Church when needed by driving their bus during Summer Camp and on their Field Trips.
    Together, we make enough now to still qualify for tax breaks offered by BO, but when Ed gets that License, he wants to start his own business. He wants to give our kids this business someday.
    Ed is the kind of guy who will be good to his Employees, and pay a fair wage, all he will ask in return is their loyalty to the company, and a good work ethic, and fairness to the customers.
    We want this business because we want to WORK for Financial independence. We want to achieve the American Dream, and we want to hire employees and help them to achieve their goals, too. How can we do this if BO wants to consider us rich as soon as we get a year or two into the work.
    Small businesses have to pay Insurance, buy vehicles, stock up on supplies, and pay their employees…Ed says for the first few years most people have to reinvest most of what the company earns right back into the company. How would we ever be able to do that if we would be taxed as much as 65%?
    I have watched Ed work towards this goal for a long time, and I can’t bear to see a crazy President with a crazy Congress destroy what dreams my guy has. People work hard because they want to do better…when you rob them of their desire to achieve more than mediocrity, then you suck the life out of them.
    For all the Joe’s and Ed’s and every other middle class worker with hopes to do better, I agree with Joe, we might not agree with all of McCain’s policies, but we know who he is, and what he is about, and his vision for us is not to keep his foot on our necks, it’s to loosen the restraints and to appreciate when small businesses are allowed and encouraged to grow, our economy flourishes.

    • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

      Well said! And kudos to you and your guy!

    • bethtopaz

      Freedom!!! Joe the Plumber is our William Wallace/Braveheart:

      William Wallace: I am William Wallace. And, I see a whole army of my country men, here in defiance of tyranny. You’ve come to fight as freemen, and freemen you are. What will you do without freedom?! Will you fight?

      Man: No . . . we will run . . . and we will live.

      William Wallace: Aye. Fight and you may die. Run and you’ll live, at least a while. And, dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance — just one chance — to come back here and tell our enemies, that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!

  • ford

    Mac is a very humble man…he is reluctant to speak of himself.

    Joe is a new great spokeperson for the campaign…

    who would have thought this was going to happen right now??

    Mac’s polls are up, and the message is clear.

  • K Lynne

    According to one of my Obot friends, Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating (of ‘Keating 5′ fame) and actually owns ‘a bunch’ of businesses.

    She provided a link to Democratic Underground – you pay me enough to go there ;-) .

    • tek

      None of that matters. His point is well-taken.

      It’s just like when Obama tried to smear Hillary because there were people asked to be in the audiences to ask particular questions so Hillary could get her message out. It’s a waaaaay different thing than Dubya planting people to just get up and praise him at his speeches.

      • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

        Don’t forget the paid fainters at Obama rock concert rallies. Btw, he’s throwing himself another one with Springstein and Billy Joel.
        Middle America should get some of that fundraiser money. Come on Senator Government, spread the wealth around.

        And really, it matters not a bit what Joe’s politics are. Obama was the one who answered the way he did. It was not a trick question.

        Imagine if the media ever really asked him something legitimate. He might just cry or start World War III on the spot with another idiotic reply.

        • Karma

          Speaking of spreading it around.

          Does Obama have to pay taxes on campaign donations?

          He has raised 1/2 billion +….

          • Annie Oakley

            No wonder the economy is sputtering. It’s like a hidden tax. All those $5 and $10 contributions have dragged down retail sales.

          • athena

            NO but he gets to keep the interest earned on the money. You betcha!

        • [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME]

          Come on Senator Government, spread the wealth around.

          That’s the thing with socialists…they want to spread YOUR wealth around, NOT THEIR OWN.

          [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME - IT IS TOO INFLAMMATORY. - ADMIN]

  • HARP

    I wonder why the MSM are lining up to interview Joe the plumber but not Bill Ayers.

    MSM …you are so obvious. And you call yourselves journalist…who the hell are you trying to kid. None, I repeat none of you have any balls.

    • Leisa

      You are right HARP. They have spent more time and energy trying to discredit anyone who threatens Obama’s ascent to the most powerful position on this planet than they have spent looking into Obama and his still uncertain past (Columbia days are still a mystery, for example).

    • [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME]

      We know more about Joe Dubya Plumber in the last 48 hours than we know about Obamacus, who has been running for President for 2 years.

      The media is dead.

      [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME - IT IS TOO INFLAMMATORY. - ADMIN]

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    Biden is running his mouth that 98% of small businesses will get a tax cut.

    Where is he getting that 98% crap.

    I remember reading somewhere that the median of earning among businesses was around $250,000. MEDIAN.

    Which according to high school statistics classes means that half of the population makes below $250,000 while the other half make about $250,000.

    Then again the man doesn’t know that J-O-B-S is a four letter word, why would he understand statistics.

    • Shiloh

      Why isn’t someone asking Obama point blank how many people when his plan is in effect will actually be “paying” less taxes than now? The answer is none because if the Bush tax cuts expire THAT will be a large tax increase and it won’t matter is the Obama plan then provides a small “cut.” This is the same smoke and mirrors as when a store raises it prices 25% and then has a 10% off “sale.”

      • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

        THANK YOU!!!!!!!

      • http://chriss chris

        Excellent post and says it all. I wish all of America could get that short and sweet message on the front pages of their newspapers, internet news sites and onthe tv news shows. Send it around please.

  • IndieDogg

    Joe Biden says Joe’s “not a real plumber!”

    Joe Biden, of all people, is calling somebody out?

    The man who can’t tell the truth about the time of day? The man who tells a whopper a day, just to stay in practice? [Or so it seems.]

    The man who abandoned his own White House bid after he was caught plagiarizing speeches from other politicians?

    Joe’s outraged that Joe the Plumber isn’t “a real plumber.” Does he not get that Joe the Plumber stands for all the Joe’s and Janes out there? Does he think he’s “scored one for the team” that finally picked him to play past a primary?

    Well, news flash: Joe the Coal Miner (Biden) isn’t “a real coal miner” either.

    “I hope you won’t hold it against me, but I am a hard-coal miner, anthracite coal, Scranton, Pa. It’s nice to be back in coal country. … It’s a different accent [in Southwest Virginia] … but it’s the same deal.” ~ Joe Biden in Castlewood, Virginia.

    Biden was never a coal miner. Never thought of being a coal miner. Has probably never been in a coal mine, unless on a tour.

    Joe Biden has been a running joke for so long, it’s no longer funny. But, he keeps showing up, mouth in motion, as we all wait (as he probably does, as well) to hear what’s going to come out next.

    Of course Joe Biden also said, during the primary, the Barack Obama wasn’t a real Presidential candidate, or shouldn’t be. But, he’s forgotten that one, too. Or was that made up?

    As the prosecutor asked the witness after the first fib was uncovered, “So, which time were you lying, then or now?”

    • athy

      IndieDogg-
      Nice!

    • workingclass artist

      Hmmm…I have a message for Biden the plagiarizer…I have a real Workingclass Boot that needs to go up Joey’s scranton Bull shit Ass…Cause he’s forgotten where he pretends to hail from…Kinda like his party….the deocrats that dismissed the workingclass that built it…sheeeesh!

    • oowawa

      “Joe Biden says Joe’s “not a real plumber!”

      Joe Biden is not a real “Joe.”

    • Margaret

      That’s the best he can do, “You’re not a real plumber”. That’s pathetic. At least Joe is real American.

  • athy

    OT but very interesting

    http://www.factcheck.org/just-the-facts/the_last_presidential_debate.html

    Last night’s debate review on who misspoke during debate

    Where is Sen Obama’s lie about Bill Ayres? Fact Check.Org is lying by Omission.

    So much for Factcheck.org being unbiased…

    Obama lied about Acorn last night too.
    He claimed that he represented Acorn in the motor voter law,

    Case Name

    BuycksRoberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance

    Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FHIL-0011 State/Territory Illinois

    ****************************
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/10/09/ldt.tucker.acorn.under.fire.cnn

    Lou Dobbs 10/9/08 Obama & Acorn

    These videos are a bit long but it is very clear they are for Obama since they keep saying so!
    Obama’s ACORN – Part 1 & 2

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Ep1tkNOUU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625jUE78zjE

    Obama says Acorn will help shape his policy when he is president

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

    • Docelder

      Somebody could go after factcheck.org and do discovery on how they are financed, who checks the ads, who exactly laid hands on Barack’s documents.

  • cathnealon

    The message is out, you’re right. And of course the propaganda msm is drawing more attention to it by their Stalinist paranoia concerning anyone who is not pro-Obama. People in my family have now finally heard the term “spreading the wealth’ and ‘redistribution of wealth” when they’ve been telling me I’m overreacting. I’ve almost convinced my brother not to stay home–one more phone call should do it. Thanks, mainstream media keep it up.

  • lark

    Oh I get it. Now then next things are the t-shirts with Joe is a &^*()&)). And a video deriding every fiber of his body. And Madona insulting him. And Comedy Central mocking his life.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    You know what it boils down to?

    Joe Knows.

    Joe just revealed what hypocrites the Democrats are. The Democrats, not just their spokespersons and surrogates like Joy Behar attacking him as a wannabe, but Obama’s Chief Attack Dog, Joe “misspeaks” Biden, attacking him and using him as a political attack. A voter. A citizen, because Joe’s argument was so strong and got attention, Biden actually attacked a voter and distorting now also Joe, by claiming he doesn’t earn 250K. Even so far to question is he really a plumber, because the plumbers he knows doesn’t earn 250K?

    Pitiful.

    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      Oh, I must have missed something too. Did they forget to call Joe a racist yet? I mean, we know that’s what they were supposed to do. When people point out FACTS and TRUTH, they don’t like that, so they call you a racist. I

      He must have just shaken thema bit. Surely after the Democrats attack Joe on his issue, they’ll come around to accusing Joe of being racist and the tax issue was just a ploy to hide that.

      • tek

        Linda: it goes without saying he’s a racist!

        • lisa in va

          duhhh

        • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

          lol

    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      Sorry, no luck in finding Joe on my end.

      Infospace.com had the most listings, but they are all for the Cincinnati area. The furthest north is Hamilton….a long distance away from Holland/Toledo, Ohio.

      Some other peoople called the ones in Cinci and the guy is like 70, so it’s not our Joe.

      Maybe Joe will stop by here and give a shout out…..one can hope.

    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      Apparently Snobama doesn’t believe in fighting for middle class or a PLUMBER.

      Obama mocking John McCain fighting for folks like Joe and mocking Joe.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4

  • HARP
    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      John McCain has a great new ad up call “Fight”.

      …on his front page.
      http://www.johnmccain.com/HomeLogged.aspx

    • tek

      This ad is a slam dunk. It’s exactly what I’ve been thinking he should do. Really, the fact that the Dems keep repeating this is the most important election of your life, etc. only shows what terrible judgment the Dem Party has. They could have nominated a woman who had experience and was especially experienced in economics–but instead employed corruption to put a totally inexperienced thug on the ballot in a time of crisis. That’s when I broke from the party. Gotta be something sinister going on if pols do something this stupid.

    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      uh oh, the experience thing. :)

  • ces

    Typical.

    Attack the guy who has to clean up your shit.

  • ugo

    I believe in the American people, I believe in all the Joe’s of Americas.

    We all Joe America on Nov. 4, 2008, once in the voting boot, the curtain drawn behind us: We will the right thing for America.
    My country first.

  • Shiloh

    One of Obama’s greatest weaknesses, and one I know his campaign has been very worried about, is the middle America voter who Joe exemplifies so well. That’s what makes him dangerous. He is no plant, Obama approached him. He is us. Joe could end up being a game changer. Obama’s attacks on Joe say more about the Obama campaign than about Joe.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Joe is indeed a game-changer. Everybody is talking about him today.

      • Merry

        Joe is the definition of ‘The Silent Majority’

    • Karma

      And this is trival but did you hear Obama say…I make MUCH more than you.

      It was weird.

      Of course, Obama wants the big bucks at the end of WH stay. With a peek at the Clinton’s tax returns he is probably just counting the days until those type of funds hit his bank account.

  • IronMan

    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

    - Winston Churchill

    Obama = big government socialist = jobs killer

  • moi61537

    Politico outs his back taxes but doesn’t investigate Obama’s socialist influences or Biden’s questionable ties to credit card companies or disavowal of support for the Refuseniks. This is a crazy world.

    • Margaret

      Right, and we’ve seen what, one year of Obama’s taxes?

  • hadenough

    They have no shame:

    And on the issue of taxes, the main reason he was cited by McCain in the first place, Joe The Plumber isn’t exactly an expert. From the Blade:

    Court records from a divorce show Mr. Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.
    hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/the_flyover_vie_7.html

    First of all going in to the guys divorce records? How many ‘reporters’ want their divorce records talked about in the papers? They have no shame.

    Secondly but maybe most important. mccain did not say joe plumber was a tax expert. Why did hot line type in: And on the issue of taxes… Joe The Plumber isn’t exactly an expert. NOBODY SAID JOE WAS A TAX EXPERT. Straw man covered in red herring much?

    obama orginally stopped to talk to joe the plumber. joe made the big mistake of not bowing to the king. Now the “liberal media” want to make him pay.

    • ritamary

      Typical Obot tactic – exposing divorce records of those they don’t like. Remember this is how Obama got into the Senate? These people are so predictable.

    • Liz B

      We should all thank Joe, he is our sacrificial lamb. His head is the one on the chopping block, BUT there is a silver lining to this story…Joe the Plumber has shaken Obama and Biden and their supportors to the core.

      Joe has also exposed the MSM for the whores that they are. People will see the way they have worked themselves into a rabid lynch mob, and they will be able to clearly glimpse the future America if Obama wins..No one will be safe. We will be hunted down like Joe, and our private records will be considered fair game.

      Hey you bastards, where are the in depyh stories on those College kids gaming the system in Columbus…registering 11,000 people from one address. Where is one frigging story about 11,000 felonies being committed against the U.S.?
      The MSM are a bunch of filthy cowards and Sean Hannity called it right…this is the year that journalism died.

      The irony is, the MSM inspire more people to vote for McCain with their incompetence and lack of integrity, than they will ever inspire for Obama.
      They can plaster his face on every magazine from here to eternity and we will still see right through their shameless shilling.

      Joe The Plumber could be anyone of us, and I pray he and his family come to no harm from all this unnecessary exposure.

  • IronMan

    “To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, ‘the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.’”

    - Thomas Jefferson

    And Obama’s response?

    “Thomas Jefferson is not the Thomas Jefferson I thought I once knew.”

    - Barack “BIG Government” Obama

  • Ms. Angie

    Thug tactics of the Obama camp are now taking center stage.

    I don’t care who you are Joe the Plumber, but I love ya!

    All I can hope is the rest of the world can see, no matter WHO asked the question, where he’s from, his background, what licenses he has or doesn’t have Obama still stated he “wants to spread the wealth around.”

    No amount of trashing a blue collar, middle class hard working guy is going to take that away.

    • oowawa

      Let’s start a movement: upside-down plumber’s friends stuck into the front lawn!!!

      • Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

        I don’t have a front lawn. But I just put my spare plumber’s helper out on my balcony, with a McCain bumper sticker attached to it.

        Let me elaborate about my balcony. It is about 40 horizontal feet away from a 6-story apartment building under construction.

        Key words: under construction.

        Lots of Joes there, I think.

  • kgirl1028

    Too bad we can’t get Joe a spot on another station while obama is having his 30 minutes. Oh my God someone tell John McCain to put on a show opposite obama’s thirty minutes. I know there are plenty of high bank rolling republicans that would contribute. I”m seeing the Palin famly Plumber joe, the McCains. Cindy and JOhn their children. A few selection from country singers. and just have them talking about there parents, their children, how much they love this country what they want to see happen. Where we ‘ve been and where they would like to see it go. Just have it be a relaxed famly oriented program. a type of our family to yours. maybe have Palins son Track call in via phone from Iraq. this would be so much better than any 30 minute spot obama could come up with.

    • kgirl1028

      the part i like most about it is that it would unhindge obama. And i love obama when he is unhindged, he’s like ten times more entertaining, better, and more damaging than a drunk joe biden. Michelle would have a sh*t fit.

    • http://neverfindout.org/ McHope

      Please send your ideas to McCain campaign.
      That sounds adorable.

      Phone
      (703) 418-2008
      http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

    • bemused

      That’s why O. bought up ALL the major networks, duh, now no one can talk at the same time–maybe locally. I’m hoping for irate baseball fans, myself.

    • Liz B

      How about Hannity hosts it on Fox? Sounds like something he would be up for, and it would be a great alternative to Oblahma.
      Great idea!

  • cathnealon

    Joe is a game-changer and in M Savage’s phrase BO’s economic policy adds up to one thing “trickle up poverty.”

  • EJ

    Oh, this is wonderful. The MSM just can’t get out of their own way. They will trash Joe and the backlash will be felt on November 4th.

    Whew, that was a close one. We were so very close to going the way of the dung heap of socialism.

    • Leisa

      Joe is not telling anyone how to vote, just expressing his opinions and look at how ugly the 4th estate of Obama’s campaign reacts.

      Obama’s dirty campaign is aided and abetted by the media.

  • Lurker

    The Rasmussen Poll numbers are narrowing (I only trust Rasmussen).

    Thank you Joe the plummer for your part in hosing down Obamalies!

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 46%. It’s the first time since September 25 that McCain’s support has reached 46%, but Obama has now enjoyed a four-to-eight point advantage for twenty-one straight days.

    Read the rest here: http://urlite.com/9710/

    Independent for McCain/Palin

    • Shiloh

      Remember that when you adjust for bias and add 6 points to -3 and -4 you get +3 and +2!

  • TheJane

    ATTENTION All:

    This is a 3 Point election Today.

    Here is the direct quote from Karl Rove–yeah that Karl Rove– in today’s Wall Street Journal about the latest polls:

    ” Barack Obama holds a 7.3% lead in the Real Clear Politics average of all polls, but the latest Gallup tracking poll reveals that there are nearly twice as many undecided voters this year than there were in the last presidential election.

    The Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll (which was closest to the mark in predicting the 2004 outcome — 0.4% off the actual result) now says this is a three-point race.

    This week also brought a reminder that Sen. Obama hasn’t closed the sale. The Washington Post/ABC poll found 45% of voters still don’t think he’s qualified to be president, about the same number who doubted his qualifications in March.

    This is seven points more than George W. Bush’s highest reading in 2000 and the worst since Michael Dukakis’s 56% unqualified rating in 1988.”

    Here is the link to the latest Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/2008-IBD-TIPP-DAY3.html

    Obama: 45% McCain: 42%

    (3.5 percentage point margin of error)

    Pretty astounding. This guy should be up by at least 10+ % by now. Barack Obama= Not.Getting.It.Done.

    • IndieDogg

      That was out yesterday, before the debate.

  • rw

    I say, I am amazed at the research that bloggers on this site do. Kudos to you.

    • bemused

      Somebody has to do it. If blogs can stay free, this is the new information stream since the regular ones have copped out to the power of $$$.

  • Bell’Artista

    I’m with Joe the Plumber too!

    NO MORE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!!!!!

  • Marie

    I just took a look over at the Daily Kos on their “Joe the Plumber” comments.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/16/111449/53/191/632401

    The whole bunch over there have finally lost their minds. They’re like a swarm of snarling, drooling dementors! The best advertisement we could do for McCain/Palin is to steer people over there and let them see the small-minded, nasty schemes they are trying to cook up to torment and discredit Joe. If the majority of voters are that immature, mean-spirited, and–well–mentally unstable, then I guess this country deserves to go down. Luckily, I still believe there are more Joes in the USA than dementors!

    • pm317

      You know, somebody (who has the stomach for it), should copy and paste the nastiest comments from there on other blog sites frequented by non-koolaide people.I hate what they are doing to that poor guy Joe the plumber. This is a form of suppressing dissent. Crucify the people who oppose and make other people afraid to stand up for themselves and others and what they believe in.

  • beachnan

    Joe Plumber doesn’t deserve this and neither do we. The average American needs to know that what is happening to Joe Plumber could be happening to any of us, if we dare to disagree with “the One”. The man had the guts to confront “the One”, so we need to back this guy as much as we can. What they are doing to him now, is not the America I know. Somebody changed all the rules this year, and I am getting sick of it!!! Let’s hope this comes back to bite them in the ass. Regular people do not like people digging into their lives. I am like Joe Plumber. I own my own business. I employ 4 teenagers to help, but do most of the work myself. I can’t afford health insurance for myself, let alone my employees. I cannot afford the Dem candidate.

    • Margaret

      Yes, we need to stand by him. This is downright scary.

  • Joe

    Joe The Plumber speaks for us all!

  • Alice Paul WPB

    Watching Fox right now. Some idiot Dem was on about how its right for people that have more to pay more taxes (they’re talking about the conversation with Joe the Plumber).

    Anyway someone said his name isn’t Joe does anyone know. Sue if your still on you answered before about him being registered, do you know?

    Thanks!

    • Benjamin

      His name is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher.

  • hadenough

    joe the plumber has been vetted more throughly in about 12 hours than obama has been in about 18 months. How’d that happen?

  • Alan

    “In the tank” RYAN J. DONMOYER at Bloomberg News is already trying to minimize Joe the Plumber by digging up dirt on him.

    ‘Joe the Plumber’ owes back income taxes in Ohio
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6062246.html

    • hadenough

      So joe has good reason to fear obama’s tax increase on small biz. That must be the reporters point. What else good he mean?

    • PhxNickD

      I wonder how many other Joe Americas’ are in the same boat because they are trying to survive?

  • ford

    I hope to show this to people I know, and I am hoping the McCain Camp does a piece.

    Obama talks to you, and makes a gaffe. …and your life gets ruined.

  • Andrew

    From Greta:

    Oh baby……Obama mocked Joe today at his rally and this clip just aired on Cavuto’s show…..Obama mockingly asked his followers “how many plumbers do you know make a quarter million dollars?”…and his “people” laughed. A presidential candidate should NEVER mock hardworking Americans…..plumber, or whatever else. Poor Joe…..he had a legitimate concern and now he is being mocked for wanting to think big by buying a business. People like Joe are earning their income…not getting handouts. And Obama wants to be our leader? I think not. I do not want to be put down by my President for my honest profession….neither do plumbers. I appreciate an honest plumber…..we are in need of a new water heater and I will call a reputable plumber to help.

    • Merry

      I bet Obama is the type of person who treats people in the service industry like a piece of dirt when they come to their home to fix something.

      Any of ya’ll out there who work in the service industry or are close to someone in the service industry know exactly what I mean.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        Oh, yes.

    • ArmyMomForObama

      how many plumbers work 40 hours a week and fix toilets and make $250,000 a year?

      • Karma

        Psst…they work longer than 40 hours a week and plumbing doesn’t consist of solely fixing toilets.

        We had a leak under our concrete slab.

        They had to dig a man size hole from which he stood so he could use a mini jack hammer in order to get to the leak under it.

        It took several hours and skill to not hit the rebar or make the leak worse.

      • AF catfish

        If he’s an independent contractor and has a few employees he could easily make that much. They need plumbers for constructing new buildings don’t they?

        If he becomes a plumbing business owner, he could easily make that much.

        Obama is so bloody out of touch. As is Joe Biden, unbelievable!

      • johnqpublic

        you are a fool and obama nut. i have worked with contractors who spend that much on supplies alone. ok bonehead lets raise tax on small business so the average joes can lose his job and you can then pay for his walfare payment under obama. even better businesses can spread the wealth to all the joes and we can live in mud huts and play checkers all day.

      • doc99

        I can name a few on LI. And that’s not all. Wait until the auto mechanics and electricians show up.

    • Tversky

      Wow! The McCain camp needs to run with that. What an arrogant jerk. He’s never run a business in his life. He’s been in academia or law the entire time. What total disrespect for the very people that will help us out of this economic mess.

      • Annie Oakley

        Yes, speaking of the bail out, has the media vetted the CEOs that just stuck their hands into Joe’s pocket for $2T? No? Couldn’t get around to that, but Joe needs to pay more and shut up.

        Tip to Joe: Next time you are in the One’s presence, do not speak and it’s best to avert your eyes. Kneeling is optional.

        • Tversky

          That haven’t even finished vetting the guy that might be our next president! But they’ve got all the time in the world to harrass an average citizen that had the temerity to ask a question that embarrased their New Messiah.
          Geez. The MSM has just dropped to a new low.

      • Ray

        You still did not get it. The McCain is trying to save us from additional taxes. By the way his wife is running a business. Do you want be poor and receive government help or pay for somebody welfare payment under obama? Or become successful in your field and less taxes under McCain

    • AF catfish

      What? Obama will lose the election if this is on YouTube. One, it shows how out of touch Obama is. Joe the Plumber was going to buy a plumbing business, not merely be an employee.

      I guess you have to have a do-nothing job on the board of a Chicago Hospital to make $250,000.00.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Joe represents many people! He works hard and can’t stand lazy people leeching on. 40% of Americans do not pay taxes. Zero. Nada. Zilch. But O-big-brother wants to tell folks like Joe the Plumber to either keep their American dreams below the $200 ceiling or work hard and help spread some of that financial loving, even to those 40% who do not pay taxes to begin with.

  • Andrew
  • IndieDogg

    Major League Baseball has announced that it has agreed to delay the beginning of Game 6 (if the series goes that far) of the World Series so that Barack Obama can finish his 30 minute speech to the nation without having to compete with the ball game.

    What next?

    Question: Will it be okay if I go for chips and dip while he’s talking or is somebody coming to my house to chain me to my chair? What if I grab a six-pack of dark amber lager to go with the chips? Is that considered racist? Haven’t checked the definition today, been busy.

    I certainly don’t want to offend anyone.

    Oh, another Question: Will it be alright if we hold the Inauguration without him?

    • Arabella Trefoil

      No snacks. No beer runs. No phone calls. No trips to the bathroom.

      You may, however, text message your friends in support of Obama.

    • johnqpublic

      if you are a baseball fan we can send an angry e-mail to fox about this.

    • Margaret

      I am going to barf

  • Tversky

    I love Joe the Plumber! He’s renewed my hope that there are still middle and working class folks in America that want to pursue the American dream that with hard work and ingenuity you can be a success.
    Not everyone is looking for the government to solve all their problems. There are still folks out there that value self-determination, personal accountability and individual responsibility.

    Joe sees Barry’s soak the rich policies for what they are:

    1) A disincentive for entrepreneurs, the very people we need to bring our economy back. They’re the ones that come up with innovative products, create new jobs and grow the economy.
    In contrast, Barry’s tax policies suggest he wants to continue Bush’s consumer spending driven economy. Frankly, that’s the last thing we need. We need new and better jobs. Not more plasma screen TVs and Ipods. That’s one of the things that got us into this problem in the first place.

    2) A bribe to get lower and middle class voters to select a small immediate temporary “gain” over much bigger long run permanent gains.
    Seriously, it’s just a bribe. And a sucker’s bet at that. You may get a slightly higher refund check from the IRS under Obama’s tax plan this year. But you WILL end up paying for it in the end. The businesses that Obama wants to tax more will simply pass off those higher taxes to the consumer in higher prices. You can bet on it. (Just think about how airlines have passed off the higher oil prices to us in higher airline tickets. It’s the same thing.) That’s one fundamental reason why soak the rich tax policies don’t work. The lower and middle class guy gets screwed in the end. Importantly, it’s a zero sum game – i.e., the pie is fixed -and the little guy always gets the smallest slice.

    In contrast, lower tax policies that encourage middle and working class folks to invest and become entrepreneurs are NOT zero sum games. These policies offer the potential of a BIGGER pie. Part of the pie may go to wages for new employees, or sales to other businesses to help them grow and hire more employees, etc. Even after those slices are cut away, the entrepreneur has the potential to have a bigger slice than he would under the “soak the rich” tax plan. As a bonus, the government may end up taking in MORE tax revenues, even under the lower marginal tax rate. That’s the American Dream!

    Barry talks about the fairness and compassion of his wealth restribution policies. But the problem is, they don’t end up helping the folks he claims he wants to help! (Quite the opposite in fact.)
    It’s actually the Joe the Plumbers of this world that end up helping those folks. The Joe the Plumbers (i.e., small businessmen and women)create jobs, generate business to business sales (which end up helping the employees and future employees of those other businesses), buy stuff with their profits (which once again, helps the employees and future employees of those businesses), end up paying more in tax dollars with their much larger gains, etc.

    Joe the Plumber clearly understands economics far more than Obama does.

    • oowawa

      “I love Joe the Plumber! He’s renewed my hope”

      Then show your support by planting a plumber’s friend (toilet plunger), handle down,in the middle of your front lawn! New national movement of solidarity started right here in this thread! Clear out clogged up political waste with Joe!

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Joe the Plumber clearly understands economics far more than Obama does.

      Sounds like Joe would make a much better president as well.

      • johnqpublic

        joe the plumber/palin 08

  • Griff

    From crooksandliars.com:

    Joe the Plumber? More like Joe the Keating Family Operative

    I guess it’s no wonder John McCain was so happy to use “Joe the Plumber” as a debate prop last night — he’s a partisan Republican who also happens to be a member of McCain’s old friends, the Keating family.

    From Martin Eisenstadt:

    Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.

    • Tversky

      So? How does that take away from the fact that Barry’s answer to Joe revealed Barry’s policies are just warmed over socialism that punishes small business owners and hurts incentives?

      Lefty smear machine trying to distract from the issues.
      Anything to win, right?

      • Griff

        Tversky,

        When “Joe the Plumber” is (1) neither (a) named “Joe” (his name is Sam, apparently) nor (b) a plumber, and (2) has relatives who are beholden to McCain, accepting him as an “everyman” is a bit much, unless “everyman” is a lying shill for the McCain campaign, which wasn’t the case the last time I checked.

        What you saw was political theater, nothing more. Nobody in his right mind could accept anything the guy said as true because the identity he provided, the very premise of his credibility as “everyman,” is demonstrably false.

    • LD

      What difference does that make? Joe is “everyman” in America who works hard to get ahead. He has pride and gives respect when due because he has earned respect and wants to be respected. He does not want a handout. He can make it on his own.

      GAME CHANGER!!!

      • http://chriss chris

        Who cares who his relatives are? He asked a very simple question that had no political spin to it. And guess what? Obama answered it with the truth for once and oops he should have lied like usual. Too bad Obama. You should have been more careful. Now the cat’s out of the bag and the media is forced to talk about it. The more that they bash Joe, the more the public understands what a loser and a danger Obama is to America’s freedoms.

    • Liz B

      …Who was married to your cousin who was once removed from your second cousins son in law ‘s gardener…
      the above “connection” made about as much sense.

      Hmmm…Obama’s COUSIN is Odinga!!! Where is the f***ing story on Odinga? He incited riots that caused the deaths of Kenyan Christians, women and children, burned alive! Obama campaigned for him!! This happened in December 2007!!

      Now if you tell me Joe the Plumber helped get his cousin elected in some country where when he initially LOST his Election and then his supportors burned down the town and killed people, THEN I would think Joe The Plumber is a real asshole, but as it stands right now, the only asshole I see is the one right under the MSM;s noses…OBAMA!

      Go away Troll, you have no power here! Away with you!

    • http://ordinarymom politicalunderstudy

      Wow!…. Joe works 40 + hrs weekly…tries to better his family… speaks his mind against socialist policies…
      sheesh, what a “Keating” criminal!
      If he is “in” with all this money, why is he out there working so much???
      This is a lame attempt at damage control…. so lame in fact, I’ll bet you’ve just earned McCain loads of votes…
      Keep Up The Hard Work!

  • witness08

    OBAMA’S GOONS HAVE STRUCK!
    I just heard a story about Joe the Plumber on NPR. They ended the piece by saying Joe owes the IRS for back taxes. Obama’s hit squad going after anyone who speak out against them.
    “These are times that try men’s souls”

    • Tversky

      Barry’s little followers are just “useful idiots” doing his dirty work. They’re in for a lot of heartache and disappointment when and if he becomes President. (In a way I actually pity them.)

      They crack me up though because they think they’re sooo morally superior to the so-called Rethuglicans. But I’ve encountered more intolerance, hypocrisy, ends justify the means behavior, misogyny and outright hatefulness from Obama supporters than I’ve encountered from rightwing Republicans. There’s absolutely no comparison.

    • tek

      Then they played a satirical skit ridiculing Joe. Even public media is in on it.

    • doc99

      Who owes more taxes, Joe or Charles Rangel?

      • no vote for Oblabla

        LOL good one doc99

        Just wondering if Joe, being common folk like the rest of us and not a public figure, couldn’t he sue the pants off the Obammunist, Biden-theDrunkard, the DNC and the MSM for making all his private information public plus defamation of character? He should get a good attorney and blast the crap out of all of them!

    • Liz B

      Obama’s Campaign Financial Advisor , Penny Pritzker, owes people all over Chicago thousands of dollars…she collapsed a Bank! I read Joe owes like $1200.00, lots of people owe back taxes, some people had to choose between their taxes and that balloon payment they had to make to the crooked S&L that holds their Mortgage.
      I really don’t think Joe owing some back taxes is going to have the average working man or woman up in arms. Who cares? It is not like the thousand Joe owes is going to be the money that made or broke the Economy…oh wait, that would mean he works for Fannie or Freddie if that were the case.
      What’s the matter, BO? Didn’t Joe the Plumber contribute money to your campaign? If he had you’d be the first to excuse any debt to the IRS the guy has.

  • doc99

    Glenn Reynolds:

    JOE THE PLUMBER: They told me that if George W. Bush were re-elected, people would be punished for speaking truth to power. And they were right!

    http://www.instapundit.com

  • doc99

    One more thing, Joe probably owes less than Charles Rangel.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Regarding the goons going after Joe: they did the same thing to Larry Sinclair maybe even worse than Joe is experiencing. He was the canary in the coal mine and people should have defended his right to free speech. We let them get away with their brownshirt tactics on Sinclair and emboldened them to now go after Joe.

  • Tversky

    Barry’s media shills are doing a hitjob on Joe the Plumber. Looks like he’ll be out of work soon:
    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/16/good-news-toledo-moves-to-shut-down-joe-the-plumber/

    Don’t feel bad Joe. You’re just the first of many once Barry gets into office.

    • oowawa

      Hey, it’s all starting to fall into place. The precious and his minions can all call each other “comrade,” we can all call each other “Joe” and “Josephine.”

    • trails

      And you’re proud of this loutish behavior?

      Sick. Obots are sick.

      • oowawa

        I do believe Tversky is being sarcastic, or perhaps you are responding to something else?

        • Tversky

          Thanks. Yeah, I was being sarcastic.

          I’m actually pretty stunned and appalled that a private citizen is getting is life trashed for merely asking a politician a question.
          I feel terrible for this guy. This is SICK. Are we still in America?

  • Hispana
    • Liz B

      In the comments that follow the post there is a guy there with a great idea for an ad for McCain…I’m Joe The Plumber…check it out, it’s a great idea.
      Thanks for the Link.

  • sleeplessinchicago

    Obama knows perfectly well that a self-employed plumber working alone doesn’t make $250,000 a year.
    But a guy who owns a plumbing company — and that’s what Joe wants to do — can make that kind of money by employing several people. What Obama doesn’t understand is the capital outlay needed to run that company — investment in the trucks, the equipment, the licensing fees paid to local government. And then there’s the payroll taxes the employer pays for Social Security and Medicare. And that’s the easy part because only people who actually run a business know the very worst of it — the uncertainty of where the income is coming from next week or next month to meet the payroll and pay your own bills. That’s been my experience for the last 19 years. We indepenedent small businesses love the challenge of building something of our own. But the uncertainties and the risks are substantial. Politicians like Obama have no clue. Spread the wealth? You’re joking, right?

  • trails

    Sorry, Tversky. I think I misread your post.

    But the loutish behavior of those who would attack anyone just for questioning Obama should send strong warnings about who this man really is.

    • Tversky

      That’s OK. ;-)
      Sadly, I understand exactly what you mean. This isn’t just infuriating. It’s disheartening. These Obama supporters have lost their souls.

  • Kathy

    Here’s what I find so hypocritical: Obama wants us all to share the wealth, but if you look at what he and Michelle gave to charity, it’s a pittance. The Clintons gave away far more of their money, percentage-wise, than Obama. Obama only gave money when he began his run for president–and that money was to his Black Liberation church. Biden finances are similar. Palin’s family also gave a larger percentage than Obama and Biden. McCain and his wife give large amounts of money and TIME to charity. What a snob Obama is to tell ANYONE to share the wealth when all the Obama’s can do is count their own.

    • Andrew191

      Don’t forget Obama’s half brother, dollar a month George. BHO’s charity knows no bounds.

    • Liz B

      McCain gives 26% of his income to charity, I read the who gives what report on one of the sites I linked to from here.
      Take that Obama! If you leave your hand out of our pockets, we’ll redistribute our own wealth.

    • Don

      Maybe Obama should first be concerned about having those super rich friends/advisers (Buffet(?), Soros, etc.) of his spread some of their wealth around before he starts wanting middle class working Americans to be giving their earnings to the government! Frankly, I admire anyone, including Buffet, Soros, etc. who succeed through honest effort and/or hard work. Heck early on in this election before I really knew about Obama I even admired him for wanting to be POTUS (I however changed as this once life-long registered democrat, now an independent as of 5/31/08, who started voting in 1964 and has never voted for a Republican candidate for POTUS certainly shall be voting a straight Republican ticket this year). The Democratic Party for me has lost its standing; once the party of the middle class working man/woman has become corrupted to where winning at any cost is the name of the game.

    • ritamary

      Obama promised to send money to the orphanage in his father’s hometown in Kenya. Why didn’t he send it if spreading the wealth is such a great idea? Or maybe it is spreading other people’s wealth that is the good idea?

  • PhxNickD

    I wonder how many other Joe Americas’ are in the same boat because they are trying to survive this economy?

  • Seattle Moss

    Obama has made the biggest mistake of the campaign!!

    I had an uncle in Newport Rhode Island that made millions with his plumbing business. My uncle was the envy of the whole town.
    I really enjoyed lobster fishing with him on his big yacht

  • http://www.governuts.us Agust304

    The words below were written in 1994, but hold true today. Pay attention to the last line, Joe. He really should name is company “Joe the Plumber.”

    POLITICKA ROCK

    The politika rock is a pile of crock
    But I guess we like the rhythm of the blues
    Everybody’s swaying to political sayings
    And turning on the late night news

    Now the GoverNuts got a brand new band
    And they think it’ll go all the way
    But when they put your hands in your pockets
    You can almost hear them say

    Chorus:
    Politika roll (big money) politika rock
    Politika roll (big money) politika rock
    Well we vote them in because we think it’s a sin
    To see a politician work a real job

    Four yeas and seven minutes ago today our contributors brought forth upon us a proposition that all big money is created equal – I’ll take it all.

    The capitol rap is a pile of crap
    And it is that way today
    Because the pot-bellied fat-heads wrote the tune
    So it’s gotta be sung that way

    The GOP holds a party
    And puts a gorilla with religion at the door
    While the democrats gather down at the river
    And pass around the hat for more.

  • doc99

    The press and The Plumber. You’d think these were Nixon’s Plumbers they were chasing down. And why haven’t the press investigated Obama as they’re investigating Joe?

  • doc99
    • johnqpublic

      obama’s hands all over this by him and biden mocking joe in public. if something happens to joe he will be finished.

    • Liz B

      Well let’s all hope he’s also Joe NRA.

  • samb

    One man, one question and I watched as Obama piss all over this man’s dream on T.V today Obama was rude and dismissive and Obama insists he is in-touch with the ordinarily person I DON’T THINK SO.

    • johnqpublic

      we need to organize and send e-mails to major media outlets. if we make a thread about this and can get thousands of people to send complaints on how an average citizen who asks a question to a presidential candidate is then mocked and treated badly.

    • ritamary

      Obama doesn’t know or even want to know any ordinary persons.

  • lansing quaker

    This “Joe the Plumber” crusade has infuriated me to no end.

    The media deigns to address the background and records of a private citizen but leaves Obama’s relations to:

    - Rezko.
    - Ayers.
    - Auchi.
    - Wright.
    - ACORN.
    - The Electoral Welfare he received in Michigan.
    - Dem. Primary Caucus Fraud.
    - And so much more…

    …completely and totally untouched.

    The MSM wouldn’t stop screaming about Hillary and Tuzla “sniper fire” for weeks, but when Biden does the same re: Afghanistan? Nary a peep.

    Hillary was railroaded for her AUMF vote, but Biden has the same vote — nada. They’ve always been in the O-Tank, and not just against Republicans.

    And now we must tar and feather a private citizen for asking a question. “He’s a corrupt Republican!” It’s the same thing we PUMAs heard about being nothing more than “Vagina Voters” at best or “Republican plants” at (not quite so) worst.

    It’s absolutely sick and terrifying. No matter my complete outrage over the character attacks/smears upon Democratic women such as Ferraro and Hillary — or my doubled outrage over the “Tanning Bed” media attacks/smears of all things Palin and her family — this character assassionation and smearing of a private citizen that only asked a question of Obama set me on literal fire.

    It’s so disgusting it hurts. I still want a damn response by Obama on why such a “Messiah” would accept stealing my Michigan vote for Clinton by taking four delegates from her based on “exit polls.”

    Let’s stop asking about Joe Six-Pack or Joe the Plumber’s record, and let’s start asking Obama of his.

    As Obama himself said to trounce Clinton in one of many debates:
    “It’s one thing to be ready on day one, but it’s another to be right on day one.”

    Nothing coming from Obama or his sniveling surrogates make me feel he is right in any way. shape. or form.

    Johnny Mac and Sara’Cuda: fight for us. Keep fighting Obama’s lack of judgement. Take it to him. This railroading of everyone not in the O-Tank is making America angry, and we need you to fight for us.

    • Andy

      That is because the MSM are :

      (1) a bunch of cowards
      (2) they are lazy
      (3)completely and embarrasingly spewing propaganda

      THERE IS NO INFORMATION, ONLY PROPAGANDA.

    • meileen

      Well said.

  • Ray

    Obama Mocks Joe the Plumber, Crowd Laughs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4

    • Andy

      OMG: what a SNOB; making fun of McCain saying

      “a plumber is the one he is fighting for”

      What a reverend assh—

      Email this to SusanUnPC Ray.

    • Kathy

      This is disgusting. Obama has done plenty to disgust me, but this takes the cake.

    • Elle

      It is the same kind of backstabbing by Obama here in similar fashion of ‘Clinging to to their guns and religion’.
      He betrays his own pretense of caring and sell his own self for the sake of a good laugh.
      Clearly shows once again what he really thinks of
      blue collar and working trade workers.

    • johnqpublic

      lets get organized and e-mail something together. we can crash e-mail servers and show our anger

  • calli not your sweeti

    Senator Government promises to stop all harrassment of Joe the Plumber as soon as Joe proclaims that he has seen the light and Senator Government is The One! Oh Joe, you ain’t seen nothing yet if you don’t go over to the dark side…Funny how much dirt the MSM found on good ol Joe in less than 18 hours, but they can’t seem to find any of Senator Government’s missing records, birth certificate, medical records, friendships with Palestinian terrorists, you get the drift.

  • katmandu

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/275813.php

    Anyone know what this is about? It’s up at Ace of Spades HQ.

    The Politico has this story. They’ve had it for a while. They don’t want to run it with the guy’s anonymity kept intact.

    Gee, I wonder why he wanted to keep that?

    They’re willing to endlessly vet anyone who even asks Barack Obama a question, but not Barack Obama himself.

    I can pretty much understand the media’s reluctance to allow anonymity — except for the fact that the media so gleefully engages in the witness intimidation that prompts the request for anonymity in the first place.

    As of now, the story appears dead.

    It sounds like someone knows something about Ayers and Obama.

    • lansing quaker

      Some are speculating it’s about Ayers/Dorhn babysitting the Obamas’ kids.

    • Andy

      Greta is supposed to have some ground-breaking news on the Obama-Ayres subject tonight.

      I read about the babysitting somewhere else as well. That’d be pretty damaging….

    • Ray

      Fairly tired of going over to that site only to read
      Ooooooo I have this great scoop but too chicken shit to tell you anything about it.

  • Maverick

    This is the best Mccain ad I have ever seen.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZXQfEAHts

  • johnqpublic

    joe needs to run for congress in 2010. he is smarted than most people in public office.

  • ReginaldL

    ArmyMomForObama | 2008-10-16 19:28:27

    …i wouldn’t be giving it to you, it would be funding the federal budget.

    Have you ever run your own business? If Joe gets his dream business humming making $1m/yr that’s almost $23k additional cash he loses to the Federal govt. $23k would pay another part-time salary or allow further expansion. But hey, who cares – its just Joe’s sweat. Even better taking it in the midst of an economic downturn.

    Who cares if small business employees 52% of the socialists’ meat puppets and generate 75% of the new jobs.

    Sounds inspiring.

  • Patti


    It’s one thing to be ready on day one, but it’s another to be right on day one.”

    Well that definately doesnt describe Obama. He is nowhere near ready, and toooooooo left.

  • Judy

    I believe this is one of the most frightening things in American I have ever witnessed – the attack on “Joe the Plumber” to destroy him.

    I would like to do something nice for him – I was going to send McCain a hundred bucks – I would rather send it to Joe.

  • SantaFeK

    “Comment by Ray | 2008-10-16 19:40:15

    Obama Mocks Joe the Plumber, Crowd Laughs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?

    Thanks for posting this, Ray. This is Obama at his best snotty nastiness. I hope all can send it around.

    • SJ

      WOW I guess this plumber is too low class to fit into the idea of the great Obama trying to help him.

      Well that should show all the buttheads that keep running after Obama if he feels a plumber is not worth fighting for how in heavens name will he fight for the taxi drivers, the maids, the small store owners, guess they dont fit into Obama’s scheme of things.

      I hope some one send this clip to every network, FOX and all let them see what an ass Obama is and just how he will look down at people if he wins this election.

  • Seattle Moss

    How do you lose an election…

    You go after the rich and then you go after a poor plumber.

    Despicable scum bag Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • doc99

    The public harassment of The Plumber may turn out to be the biggest mistake of the Obama campaign. Folks love to root for the underdog and detest bullies. Go Joe! The Middle Class is on your side.

  • Alice Paul WPB

    Could someone please clear this up. I see here and I googled it that Joe is related to Keating? Sounds pretty implausible. They’re saying on all Left Wing Blogs he’s the son-in-law or something.

    I can’t believe it because that would be very coincidental that BO would just happen to walk down his street and number 2 I would assume that Keating relatives would be richer.

    I just like to know all the facts so that I don’t get blasted by my friends for BO when I speak to them. I’m a stickler for details.

  • shadow

    McCain and Obama are going to speak at a dinner in New York City on Hannity now live.

    • Cubs in 08

      McCain just finished speaking. It was hilarious! :lol:

      BTW…

      I’ve enjoyed reading each and every “pro-Joe” comment!

      I teach English at a local university. Sometimes I teach a non-fiction short story class. This is one of my favorite stories. I remind my students that, although they are studying to become white-collar workers, it’s the blue collar workers who make the world go ’round. Enjoy! :-P

      White-Collar Man In A Blue-Collar World

      http://www.newsweek.com/id/63711

  • Tversky

    In one of the posts above, someone said crooksandliars has something about Joe being related to Keating so you might check there. Although frankly, I’d try to verify with an independent source. They aren’t exactly trustworthy. (Not that there are many trustworthy sites anymore.)

    Honestly, I don’t care WHO Joe’s related to. How these ObamaScum can justify trying to ruin the life of a private citizen is beyond me. These are some nasty, ugly people we’re dealing with. They are trash.

    • sandy gonzo

      They already retracted the LIES they were spreading around about Joe. Be very afraid America, this is what you will have to deal with if the fraud see’s the White house

    • doc99

      More thoughts on Joe and Keating, among other things.

  • Elle

    McCain is so funny..he is amazingly refreshing !
    It is such a joy watching him.Hillary can not stop laughing at his cracks at Obama.
    Oh what a night ~!

  • Illinois_gal

    This is ridiculous!! They have NO RIGHT prying into Joe’s personal life. This is going way too far. I imagine the Obots will probably be sending him death threats now.

    Newsflash… Joe IS NOT running for President!! Barack Hussein Obama IS!! They should be dissecting the life of BHO if they want to save this country.

    Where is Barack Hussein Obama’s REAL birth certificate?

  • Brian_C82

    Joe the Plumber for President!

  • doc99

    This just in: API has audio of Michelle Obama rant.

    API has recordings of the conversation between API and Mrs Obama (Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API., and we confirm that the audio will be released to the public. In the last 24 hours, API has been consulting legal advisers on the way forward in order to avoid being sued by the Obama camp. API has realised that the contents of the tapes if made public may change the political atmosphere in America for ever, especially in the next few days.

    Judah Benjamin has more.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

      Tread carefully. The claim of the conversation existing is not proven by a claim of a recording. People have been duped before and end up chasing their own tails for nothing.

  • tek

    The Obama campaign must really feel threatened by McCain the way they go after anyone who seems to be helping McCain’s campaign. If they trusted the polls, they’d be gracious, but instead they are consistently vicious.

    We were driving to my evening class tonight and two college girls were walking along beside the highway. They came to a lawn that had a McCain sign in it and one girl went over to the sign and kicked it out of the ground and walked on it. Great example of Obama’s supporters, his “youth.”

  • jimbob

    I can’t wait to see Obama’s cabinet. No doubt Maxine Waters, the braindead former maid will be Secretary of Education. :-D lmfao

    • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

      WHAT? I can. And hopefully it’s nothing we will have to see.

  • yoman

    Obama Mocks Joe the Plumber, Crowd Laughs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4

    ======================

    • johnqpublic

      we can not sit here and take this anymore!!!!!!!!

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

        The more they go after “Joe” the more it hurts themselves. It is possible The Precious has been baited into a fight he cannot win. Remember what happened last time his elitist side came out? Hillary kicked his ass in Pennsylvania. Mac is about to kick his scrawny elitist classist ass back to Chicago.

  • Tversky

    Those of you that are as outraged over how Joe is being treated by the media and the DailyKos scum: Thoughts on what we can do?

    I don’t want to just take this crap. I feel like I’ve witnessed a thug beat someone and then laugh as he got away with it scot free. What can we do to help Joe? Ideas?

    • johnqpublic

      lets start an e-mail campaign. if we can get thousands of e-mail in a short period of time we can not be ignored. we can threaten a boycott perhaps

      • Tversky

        Do you think Larry will write something up? I’ve never interacted with him.

        • johnqpublic

          if we just sit here and blog to each other what good does that do. i have seen when mass e-mail to sponsers of program or media outlets has been reported to at least get attention. maybe fox news would report if they received 20-30k e-mails in a short time. them seem to be fair. we have to be respectful when we e-mail but we can still relay our outrage on this.

        • LD

          Tversky,

          I am happy to write something on “Joe”. I can write it in the morning. Do you or anybody else have the e-mail address for the respective news outlets? Or were you referring to LJ?

          Either way, happy to help.

          LD

          • Tversky

            I’ll gathered those e-mail addresses up for you and post them in this thread ASAP. I’m going to be busy for a couple of hours but I”ll post before I go to sleep.

            Thanks for doing this. :-) Maybe we can get as many PUMAs and conservatives as possible to join in (?)

            • LD

              OK…..I am checking out for the night but will write a piece in the a.m

              God Bless!

            • johnqpublic

              we need a main thread with this info so many people can get on board

              • johnqpublic

                i can deliver dozens of e-mails from people i know and if we take this to many sites at once we can be make a difference.

    • Susan1968

      When I saw DailyKOS & HuffPo maligning Joe The Plumber this morning I emailed several news outlets (including lots of folks at FOX – Hannity, O’Reilly, Greta, Cavuto) with the following message:

      Left-wing blogs spread dirt about Joe The Plumber

      Amazing that in less than 12 hours the left wing blogs have vetted Joe the Plumber more than they ever vetted Obama.

      Some blogs have published Joe’s phone number & address so the Obama Thugocracy can more easily harrass him from the santity of their basement hovels.

      They’ve already claim to have discovered Joe the Plumber is a wife beater and a racist.

      Is this what freedom of speech means in an Obama Presidency: your life will be destroyed if you disagree with “The One?”

      Read exerpts from…

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/111449/53/191/632401 On DailyKOS

  • NYC

    Watch John McCain speaking at the Al Smith dinner tonight. So hilarious…:

    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/al.smith.dinner.2.842278.html

    • Seattle Moss

      Watching Couric squirm was priceless!!

    • doc99

      Also Here.

  • JustMe

    Good thing about this Joe will get lots of work everyone will be wanting him to work for them..

    obama on Nov 5th can have is head on FOOD STAMPS!

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Have you seen this from Mac?

    For Immediate Release
    October 16, 2008

    McCain-Palin 2008 Launches New Web Ad: “Joe The Plumber”

    ARLINGTON, VA — Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released its latest web ad, entitled “Joe the Plumber.” The ad highlights Barack Obama’s plans to increase taxes on Americans, even as they seek to build their own small businesses and create jobs. While Barack Obama talks about cutting taxes, his plan is really just a plan to “spread the wealth around” instead of creating new wealth and new opportunity.

    VIEW THE WEB AD HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ3o0Di7Go

    Script For “Joe The Plumber” (Web :30)

    JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approve this message.

    ANNCR: Americans are catching…

    JOE WURZELBACHER: Your new tax plan is going to tax me more.

    BARACK OBAMA: It’s not that I want to punish your success. … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.

    ANNCR: Everybody?

    Leading papers call Obama’s taxes “welfare” … “government handouts”.

    Obama raises taxes on seniors, hard working families to give “welfare” to those who pay none.

    Just as you suspected, Obama’s not truthful on taxes.

    AD FACTS: Script For “Joe The Plumber” (Web :30)

    JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approve this message. ANNCR: Americans are catching on… JOE WURZELBACHER: Your new tax plan is going to tax me more. BARACK OBAMA: It’s not that I want to punish your success. … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.

    Barack Obama: “And I Think When You Spread The Wealth Around, It’s Good For Everybody.” JOE WURZELBACHER: “I’m a plumber. You know, I work, you know, 10, 12 hours a day. If I buy another truck and add something else to it, and you know, build the company…” OBAMA: “Right.” WURZELBACHER: “… you know, I’m getting taxed more and more.” OBAMA: “Nobody likes high taxes.” WURZELBACHER: “No, not at all.” OBAMA: “Right? Of course not. So — but what’s happened is, is that we end up — we’ve cut taxes a lot for folks like me who make a lot more than $250,000. We haven’t given a break to folks who make less. It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance at success, too. And everybody is so pinched that business is bad for everybody. And I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” (FOX News’ “On The Record,” 10/13/08)

    ANNCR: Everybody? Leading papers call Obama’s taxes “welfare” … “government handouts”.

    The Wall Street Journal Calls Obama’s Numerous Refundable Tax Credits “Tens Of Billions Of Dollars In Government Handouts.” “For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase ‘tax credit.’” (Editorial, “Obama’s 95% Illusion,” The Wall Street Journal, 10/13/08)

    Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: “[T]he One-Third Of All American Working Families Who Pay No Income Taxes Now Will Receive A Government Check Under The Obama Plan. And That Number Could Rise To About 44 Percent Under Obama’s Proposal.” “The ‘tax-cut plan’ of Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama is anything but. In fact, it’s nothing more than another liberaled-up wealth-transference program that, in the ‘old days,’ was known as welfare. … Just as troubling, however, is this little factoid: Even the one-third of all American working families who pay no income taxes now will receive a government check under the Obama plan. And that number could rise to about 44 percent under Obama’s proposal.” (Editorial, “Obama’s Tax Cut: New Welfare Deal,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 10/14/08)

    New York Post: “[O]bama’s ‘Tax Cuts’ Really Amount To A Sizable Expansion Of Welfare.” “In truth, as The Wall Street Journal detailed yesterday, nearly all of those ‘cuts’ actually come in the form of ‘refundable tax credits,’ by which the government in effect writes a check to those who meet certain criteria – even if they don’t pay taxes in the first place. In other words, Obama’s ‘tax cuts’ really amount to a sizable expansion of welfare. That leaves American taxpayers to foot the bill – both directly, and through the lost economic opportunity that’s sure to follow Obama’s promised tax hikes on income, dividends and capital gains.” (Editorial, “Ready, Set … Spend!” New York Post, 10/14/08)

    ANNCR: Obama raises taxes on seniors, hard working families to give “welfare” to those who pay none.

    Just as you suspected, Obama’s not truthful on taxes.

    Barack Obama Has Called For Higher Income Taxes, Social Security Taxes, Capital Gains And Dividend Taxes, And Corporate Taxes, As Well As “Massive New Domestic Spending.” “Obama’s transformation, if you go by his campaign so far, would mean higher income taxes, higher Social Security taxes, higher investment taxes, higher corporate taxes, massive new domestic spending, and a healthcare plan that perhaps could be the next step to a full-scale, single-payer system. Is that what most Americans want, someone who will fulfill a Democratic policy wish list?” (James Pethokoukis, “Barack Hussein Reagan? Ronald Wilson Obama?” U.S. News & World Report’s “Capital Commerce” Blog, http://www.usnews.com, 2/12/08)

    Barack Obama Would Raise Capital Gains And Dividend Taxes. “Sen. Obama wants to raise the long-term capital-gains rate for families making more than $250,000 to around 20 percent or somewhat higher but not above the 28 percent level it reached during the Reagan presidency, an Obama economic adviser says. The same rate would apply to most dividend income for these investors.” (Tom Herman, “Tax Report Your Tax Bill: How McCain, Obama Differ,” The Associated Press, 6/18/08)

    Tax Policy Center: Barack Obama Would Raise Taxes On One Out Of Every Three Senior Households. “Even though Senator Obama’s plan eliminates individual income taxes for seniors with incomes less than $50,000, his plan would raise taxes for almost 10 million senior households, over a third of the total (not shown in table). On average, seniors would face a tax increase of about 2 percent of income.” (Burman et al., “A Preliminary Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates’ Tax Plans,” The Tax Policy Center, 6/11/08)

    Tax Foundation: Seniors “Rely Most On The Stable Flow Of Income That Dividends Provide.” “Most debate over whether to extend the reduced rates on dividends and capital gains has focused on the tax benefits of these cuts to high-income taxpayers. What has been largely ignored is the impact these tax policies have on corporations’ decisions on how best to distribute their income to shareholders–including senior citizens, who rely most on the stable flow of income that dividends provide. A recent Tax Foundation analysis illustrated that a large number of those benefiting from dividends are seniors and those on the verge of retirement (See http://www.taxfoundation.org). A further analysis of these seniors earning dividends reveals that lower-income seniors who file tax returns depend more heavily on dividend income than high-income seniors.” (Gerald Prante, “The Importance Of Dividend Income For Low-Income Seniors,” Tax Foundation, http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1354.html, 2/8/06)

    Barack Obama Would Raise Income Taxes. Obama: “[I] would roll back the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000.” (Sen. Barack Obama, CNN Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Manchester, NH, 6/3/07)

    U.S. Department Of Treasury: Small Business Owners “Are Frequently Subject To The Highest Individual Income Tax Rates.” “Changes in the individual income tax affect most businesses in the United States. That is because taxes on business earnings are often paid through the individual income tax when ‘passed-through’ to business owners. The business income from sole proprietorships, farm proprietorships, partnerships, S corporations, etc., is all taxed at the owners’ individual income tax rates. This year 34 million business owners are expected to receive this type of income and pay tax on this income through the individual income tax. These businesses are typically small and often entrepreneurial in nature, and a source of innovation and risk-taking in the economy. Moreover, these business owners are frequently subject to the highest individual income tax rates.” (“Topics Related To The President’s Tax Relief,” U.S. Department Of Treasu ry, http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/president_taxrelief_topics_0508.pdf, May 2008)

    Barack Obama Would Raise Social Security Taxes. “Obama’s proposal … would impose social security taxes on income above $250,000 per year. He would continue to exempt income between $102,000 and $250,000 from social security taxes.” (Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, and Gregory Wallace, “Obama Kisses Billions Goodbye,” ABC News’ “Political Radar” Blog, blogs.abcnews.com, 6/18/08)

  • Merry

    I’m sorry Larry, but why on earth would you want to send Joe the Plumber money? I don’t even think Joe wants your money. My husband is ‘Joe the Plumber’ and both he and I would be horrified if we became some charity case and people sent us money. The ‘Joe Plumbers’ of the USA work hard for their money, they pride themselves on being able to take care of their family, give some to their church, save a little and maybe have a few bucks left to do some fun things once in a while. Joe Plumber doesn’t depend on money to make him happy. He gets joy out of the small things in life. Going to his kids ball game or his daughters ballet recital, going fishin’ on a Saturday morning, getting out with the wife once in a while. Mostly, Joe Plumber loves to just come home after a hard days work, sit down at the dinner table, eat a good meal with his family, wrestle around with his kids for awhile, maybe watch a TV show or two on TV, tuck his kids in to bed at night then head off to bed with his wife and do it all again the next day. Joe Plumber spends one of his days off gettin’ up early on Sunday morning to get his family off to church on time where he throws a little bit of his hard earned money into the basket each week knowing that his money will be put to good use and help someone else in need or maybe his money in the basket will go to the youth group so they can go on a mission trip in the summer. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE JOE PLUMBER HAPPY!! All he hopes for is that the work keeps coming and he can keep his house and drive his cars. If things get better for Joe financially he will add a little more in savings, put a little more in the basket on Sunday, maybe buy a few more things for his family. The last thing Joe would ever want is for YOU to give him money! He would say please if you must give money away, please give it to a charitable cause or please help somebody who has less than I do. You will hurt Joe’s pride if you offer him money because he is JOE THE PLUMBER and he works for everything he has and it is his his biggest most proudest accomplishment he will ever have in life!

    • johnqpublic

      great post

      i believe we need to send e-mails to media outlets and government offices to defend him though

  • johnqpublic

    here is a hit piece on joe the plumber because he dared to ask a tough question about obama’s tax plan

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27221645/

    please e-mail msnbc and tell them politely how you feel about digging into a private citizens past to “kill the messenger” will not be tolerated. i am going to list several e-mail address the next few days and i am organizing a “call the advertisers of msnbc about boycotting their products”

    please help me and post this elsewhere, even if it is in your own words and be polite when e-mailing so we don’t sound like nuts.

    letters@msnbc.com

    • Susan1968

      I emailed them. But I wasn’t polite. I told them I’m boycotting GE products.

      • johnqpublic

        thank you

  • Susan1968

    As the MSM destroy Joe The Plumber, watch the Ohio polls.

    Obama had a small lead as per Rassmusen on 10/12, then the same poll had them tied 2 days later on 10/14.

    Once the post debate Ohio polls come out combined with MSM crucifying Joe The Plumber, I bet McCain gets Ohio.

  • johnqpublic

    Joe the plumber could be an unrepentant domestic terrorist or a white-hating BLT preacher or a real estate swindling thug, and none of that would change what Obama said–and meant.

  • johnqpublic

    joe the plumber said after he went to Springfield High School he then entered the U.S. Air Force. He was stationed at an Air Force base in Alaska from 1992 until 1995.

    more i hear about this guy the more i like. mcain needs to ride the plumber wave.

  • typewriterstreaming

    Here is an important post there are some things we can do in a coordinated effort http://donedems.com/2008/10/17/436/
    Make a Difference To
    day– Help Stop Media Witch Hunt Against Joe the Plumber and His
    Son
    . Write Politico, which 24 hours after the debate had no less than three articles attacking Joe. The authors of those articles can be reached at 1) jmartin@politico.com (Jonathan Martin) and 2) bsmith@politico.com (Ben Smith).
    The authors of the other attack article can be contacted through these forms:
    1) Carrie Budoff Brown: http://www.politico.com/reporters/CarrieBudoffBrown.html
    2) Amie Parnes: http://www.politico.com/reporters/AmieParnes.html
    2. Write ABC news, which had a front page article on its website attacking Joe for being less than $1,200 behind in his taxes – like that’s a crime in this economy. The smear artists at ABC can be reached through Peter Salinger, who is in charge of NBC’s election coverage, by phone at 212-456-5105 or by email at peter.salinger@abc.com. You can also use this form: http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346.
    3. Write NBC, whose article attacking Joe might cause him to lose his job because Joe is an unlicensed plumber (had NBC bothered to reveal that Obama hung out with terrorist and radicals as quickly as they invested Joe, Obama would have lost his job too). You can complain by phone at 212-664-4444 or by email to letters@msnbc.com or steve.capus@msnbc.com (Steve Capus, President of NBC News).
    4. There are three voices in the media sympathetic to Joe the Plumbers who can help stop this witch hunt. You can write Lou Dobbs at lou.dobbs@turner.com or through this feedback form: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?9. You can contact Sean Hannity at hannity@foxnews.com or through this feedback form: http://www.hannity.com/contactus.asp.
    5. The Daily Kos published Joe’s address, putting Joe’s son’s life in danger. Let your Congressperson know you are disgusted by the way Joe the Plumber is being treated by the media and far left bloggers like Kos. You can contact them by visiting this site and entering your zip code: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/.
    VERY IMPORTANT: Using the same form, enter Joe’s zip code (43615) and contact his Senators (Sherrod Brown-D; George Voinovich-R) and his representative (Mary Kaptur-D) and ask them why they are not helping Joe fight these smears and protect
    his son.
    6. Lastly, we need to flood the McCain campaign with support and emails, assuring them that McCain won the debate by turning up the heat on ACORN, Ayers, irresponsible spending, “spreading the wealth around,” and fines on those without health care. But let them know that having thrust Joe the Plumber into the spotlight, they need protect him from attack. The McCain camp can be emailed at ecampaign@johnmccain.com or info@johnmccain.com.
    Together, we can prevent the media from taking this election from the voters.

  • DancingOpossum

    Remember when the rightwing bloggers, led by Michelle Malkin, stalked and threatened a working-class family in Baltimore? The left blogs (rightly) went nuts about this, correctly labeling it an unwarranted intrusion into the lives of private citizens to score political points (the family’s big crime was to shoot a commercial endorsing a Democrat-proposed expansion of children’s healthcare–HOW DARE THEY, right?).

    But now the shoe is falling from the other foot, and all we get is silence from the left blogs–or complicity. They are now cheering on the same thuggish behavior they correctly called out Malkin and her thugs for.

    The pretzel-twisting rationalizations of the Obamanites is astonishing to watch, indeed.

  • DirOfTheObv

    The point is that Obama wants to tax those who are successful at (he repeatedly said 200K in the debate, btw) 250K….THEN give 40% of Americans who pay NO TAX AT ALL a check.

    This is welfare through the IRS.

  • lincster

    Wow you people are out of touch with reality. The real point is that Joe is a fraud just like the right wing agenda. PLEASE DO SEND HIM MONEY. You idiots deserve to be fleeced by that phoney.

  • johnqpublic

    he is single. the obama plan is at $200,000 the taxes would go up for single parents. you are an obama lover so you are blind to the facts anyways.

  • HC

    Hey, if you want to give me 3% of your income I am totally fine with that ArmyMom. I promise I will only use it for good. I even accept personal checks. Watch out tho, I do know net from gross income.

  • Tversky

    The way Obama supporters and his media shills are trashing this guy’s life for merely asking Obama a question is HORRIBLE. If you can’t see how wrong that is and what a terrible message that sends in a Democratic nation then God help you.

    Who cares how much money he makes? The point is that Obama revealed his socialist leanings in his answer when he talked about “spreading the wealth around.” Joe the Plumber is smart enough to realize Obama’s terrible tax policies create a disincentive for people to become entrepreneurs and/or invest and help grow the economy. Also, that 5% number is sketchy. Even if you believe in it that still means 660,000 businesses will be badly harmed. Imagine if on average, each of those businesses had to lay off, I don’t know, 3 employees. That would be almost 2,000,000 more Americans out of work. Just from that one idiotic policy.

    Don’t take my word or Joe the Plumber’s word for it when we say Obama’s economic policies are a disaster in the making. Take the word of 100 economists, including 5 Nobel Prize Winners: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/96557315-1694-4d8f-9b0a-c29f0f0872e6.htm

    Last point: It appears that all those investment bankers and lawyers that have contributed to Barry’s campaign are betting that he’ll completely disavowal his socialist leanings and his current tax plan when he get’s into office. (That’s the impression I’ve gotten from watching them on CNBC too.) Seems pretty risky to me, but hey that’s their right.

  • Andy

    That’s hardly the point. The Spread the wealth around is the point.

  • http://ordinarymom politicalunderstudy

    uummm, Of course McCain brought Joe into the conversation… Odingabama told this man he wanted to take more of his hard earned money and “spread it around”…to others who won’t earn it for themselves! That is socialism for you.
    p.s. Socialism is not your friend.

  • Andy

    I think you are the one that needs to do some “checking”

    It is 200K for single filer and 250K for married.
    If someone are divorced he/she’d file as single.

    It is the

    Spread the wealth (Barack Obama October 2008, Socialist candidate for POTUS )

    the issue.

  • texdem

    Armymom. check your facts. i know its hard when obama says something different every day. its 200k for individuals. 250 for couples. plus an increase in cap gains and dividend tax, and maybe one other. I don’t know where you are getting this nonsense about a tax on anything above 250k.

  • http://ordinarymom politicalunderstudy

    oops…. she thought socialism meant:
    The act of having friends over for “snacks” and beverages.

  • Liz B

    LOL…very cheeky comment ;)