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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13471</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CZ - It&#039;s called an immunity deal.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CZ &#8211; It&#8217;s called an immunity deal.</p>
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		<title>By: cz85b</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13469</link>
		<dc:creator>cz85b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well you , ever hear of the Scooter Libby trial?&quot;

I have to ask if Mr. Johnson learned his linguistics at an institute of higher learning..  I have not read his work before, and, if I have to read it in the future, I am sure it will not be an enjoyable experience.

Now, the question he posed to Mr. Novak regarding the Scooter Libby Trial, seems to be way out of place..  OK, let&#039;s say, that he had no idea what happened at the trial...

What, Mr. Johnson, are you trying to suggest happened at the Scooter Libby trial?  Are you suggesting that the trial proved that somebody &quot;leaked&quot; Plame&#039;s name?  We know who it was, It was Richard Armetage...  Is HE in jail?  Was he indicted?  If he is the source of the &quot;leak&quot; why is this not the case?

EXPLAIN WHY ARMETAGE is not in leg irons if, as you suggest, a crime took place..  I am VERY confused how you can arrive at any conclusion other than Libby LIED to the FBI, tried to obstruct justice, and lied to the grand jury...  While it was not brought up that Libby had no lawyer when questioned for 8 straight hours, it follows that it was ALSO not brought up that he probably had no clue what he said in the first hour, let alone weeks or months previous...

The issue goes beyond Plame?  explain this..  According to Fitzgerald, this issue did not go beyond Scooter Lying under oath... This issue did not, according to the prosecutor, even include Plame.

Your statement is not grounded in fact, it is grounded in suposition.  

If you want to discuss something, why don&#039;t you discuss how republians and democrats in congress are trying to put people on a list for daring to contact their &quot;representative&quot;??

Do real issues scare you that much?

Ciao, CZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well you , ever hear of the Scooter Libby trial?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to ask if Mr. Johnson learned his linguistics at an institute of higher learning..  I have not read his work before, and, if I have to read it in the future, I am sure it will not be an enjoyable experience.</p>
<p>Now, the question he posed to Mr. Novak regarding the Scooter Libby Trial, seems to be way out of place..  OK, let&#8217;s say, that he had no idea what happened at the trial&#8230;</p>
<p>What, Mr. Johnson, are you trying to suggest happened at the Scooter Libby trial?  Are you suggesting that the trial proved that somebody &#8220;leaked&#8221; Plame&#8217;s name?  We know who it was, It was Richard Armetage&#8230;  Is HE in jail?  Was he indicted?  If he is the source of the &#8220;leak&#8221; why is this not the case?</p>
<p>EXPLAIN WHY ARMETAGE is not in leg irons if, as you suggest, a crime took place..  I am VERY confused how you can arrive at any conclusion other than Libby LIED to the FBI, tried to obstruct justice, and lied to the grand jury&#8230;  While it was not brought up that Libby had no lawyer when questioned for 8 straight hours, it follows that it was ALSO not brought up that he probably had no clue what he said in the first hour, let alone weeks or months previous&#8230;</p>
<p>The issue goes beyond Plame?  explain this..  According to Fitzgerald, this issue did not go beyond Scooter Lying under oath&#8230; This issue did not, according to the prosecutor, even include Plame.</p>
<p>Your statement is not grounded in fact, it is grounded in suposition.  </p>
<p>If you want to discuss something, why don&#8217;t you discuss how republians and democrats in congress are trying to put people on a list for daring to contact their &#8220;representative&#8221;??</p>
<p>Do real issues scare you that much?</p>
<p>Ciao, CZ</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13466</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!   If you didn&#039;t see Bill Maher&#039;s Real Time tonight on HBO, you must make a point to see it -- esp. his closing remarks.   Eloquent!   

He spent most of the time defending Valerie and Joe Wilson, talking about what patriots they are, how they&#039;ve been wronged, how it is 
T-R-E-A-S-O-N, etc. etc.    I was cheering....and clapping....and stomping my feet!     WOW!

And, the expression on David Frum&#039;s face (on the panel tonight) when he was finished..... PRICELESS!!!

All of you here --- really MUST see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!   If you didn&#8217;t see Bill Maher&#8217;s Real Time tonight on HBO, you must make a point to see it &#8212; esp. his closing remarks.   Eloquent!   </p>
<p>He spent most of the time defending Valerie and Joe Wilson, talking about what patriots they are, how they&#8217;ve been wronged, how it is<br />
T-R-E-A-S-O-N, etc. etc.    I was cheering&#8230;.and clapping&#8230;.and stomping my feet!     WOW!</p>
<p>And, the expression on David Frum&#8217;s face (on the panel tonight) when he was finished&#8230;.. PRICELESS!!!</p>
<p>All of you here &#8212; really MUST see it!</p>
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		<title>By: KET</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13464</link>
		<dc:creator>KET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right you are about an undercover/covert not being able to trust the government of the country he or she works for because of the political use of classified information. Something that used to be illegal, called &quot;treason.&quot;

For Mr. Bob Johnson: I&#039;m hoping you know what you&#039;re talking about but the 1911 .45 (Browning) was specifically designed not to fire when pressed against anything.

Thank you, &quot;Larry,&quot; for your Web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right you are about an undercover/covert not being able to trust the government of the country he or she works for because of the political use of classified information. Something that used to be illegal, called &#8220;treason.&#8221;</p>
<p>For Mr. Bob Johnson: I&#8217;m hoping you know what you&#8217;re talking about but the 1911 .45 (Browning) was specifically designed not to fire when pressed against anything.</p>
<p>Thank you, &#8220;Larry,&#8221; for your Web site.</p>
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		<title>By: blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novak&#039;s behavior seems to prove that he was knowingly complicit in the comspiracy to expose Plame. If this is so, he should be indicted and tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novak&#8217;s behavior seems to prove that he was knowingly complicit in the comspiracy to expose Plame. If this is so, he should be indicted and tried.</p>
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		<title>By: nellieh</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13461</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While reading these comments,a thought came to mind. Rare for me! Until the growth of political blogs all we had was the WaPo, NY Times, LA Times, the networks and cable news. It seems like a lot, but it was a lot of bullshit. Like Novak&#039;s latest crap about Gates and Plame. He can&#039;t possibly recognize himself for what he is. Larry and previous commenters have described and determined that. Now when the MSM screws up or reports bullshit, the bloggers are on their asses like makeup on Toensing,  a toupe on DeGenova or flies on Novak. As a result they reluctantly correct themselves. The NY Times is still pissed off they didn&#039;t get the Walter Reed story that they still hardly mention it. But in the end, Novak, Toensing are getting smaller and smaller and less relevant and will soon disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While reading these comments,a thought came to mind. Rare for me! Until the growth of political blogs all we had was the WaPo, NY Times, LA Times, the networks and cable news. It seems like a lot, but it was a lot of bullshit. Like Novak&#8217;s latest crap about Gates and Plame. He can&#8217;t possibly recognize himself for what he is. Larry and previous commenters have described and determined that. Now when the MSM screws up or reports bullshit, the bloggers are on their asses like makeup on Toensing,  a toupe on DeGenova or flies on Novak. As a result they reluctantly correct themselves. The NY Times is still pissed off they didn&#8217;t get the Walter Reed story that they still hardly mention it. But in the end, Novak, Toensing are getting smaller and smaller and less relevant and will soon disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13460</link>
		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JEP

Yes, Bulbous Bob and Vicious Vicky are now  exposed to possible legal blowback.  It would be nice to see them both toasted like  marshmellows.  I just hope that in our lusting for justice we don&#039;t lose track as to who/why coaxed these two stinking asses to  so willingly slither so far out on a thin limb. These people are slime...etc but they are only the bullhorns, not the authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEP</p>
<p>Yes, Bulbous Bob and Vicious Vicky are now  exposed to possible legal blowback.  It would be nice to see them both toasted like  marshmellows.  I just hope that in our lusting for justice we don&#8217;t lose track as to who/why coaxed these two stinking asses to  so willingly slither so far out on a thin limb. These people are slime&#8230;etc but they are only the bullhorns, not the authors.</p>
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		<title>By: JEP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13458</link>
		<dc:creator>JEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could Novak just be desperately trying to defer everyone away from the fact that he committed a felony?

Now that it is &quot;official&quot; that Plame was covert and her identity was protected, what choice do they have (Novak, Toensing, et al) but to deny the truth of her status, they can&#039;t admit that they were wrong, because it is an admission of guilt.

So &quot;The Big Lie&quot; is perpetuated, and &quot;some of the people all of the time&quot; continue to be fooled, like domestic abuse victims returning again and again to their abusers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could Novak just be desperately trying to defer everyone away from the fact that he committed a felony?</p>
<p>Now that it is &#8220;official&#8221; that Plame was covert and her identity was protected, what choice do they have (Novak, Toensing, et al) but to deny the truth of her status, they can&#8217;t admit that they were wrong, because it is an admission of guilt.</p>
<p>So &#8220;The Big Lie&#8221; is perpetuated, and &#8220;some of the people all of the time&#8221; continue to be fooled, like domestic abuse victims returning again and again to their abusers.</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13456</link>
		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM

Yes it all seems Spockish..highly illogical.  Unless the true intent was to  stop and destroy the covert network.  If you own the table, provide the cards....?  Check out the possible links between Brewster Jennings efforts and who its success might have damaged and exposed.  The Sibel Edmonds case appears to dovetail into the whole mess.  In an interview she stated that she had never come across V. Plame doing translations but she had crossed Brewster Jennings.  If you give any weight to some of the speculation that the Dukestirs crowd was also involved in things other than providing office furniture you begin to establish a basis for those who think the only target of the US Attny purge was Carol Lam, the other 7 were used as smoke.  As I have admitted to on past posts.  I don&#039;t have any answers but I know longer believe in the Tooth Fairy, the obvious and coincidences.  If there is one thing that the Bushco crowd has proven to be good at is being opprotunistic at  manipulation of how things are presented.  They have been really slipping at this game as of late, but they have managed to smoke screen a really large pile of shit.  We could smell it but visibility was limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM</p>
<p>Yes it all seems Spockish..highly illogical.  Unless the true intent was to  stop and destroy the covert network.  If you own the table, provide the cards&#8230;.?  Check out the possible links between Brewster Jennings efforts and who its success might have damaged and exposed.  The Sibel Edmonds case appears to dovetail into the whole mess.  In an interview she stated that she had never come across V. Plame doing translations but she had crossed Brewster Jennings.  If you give any weight to some of the speculation that the Dukestirs crowd was also involved in things other than providing office furniture you begin to establish a basis for those who think the only target of the US Attny purge was Carol Lam, the other 7 were used as smoke.  As I have admitted to on past posts.  I don&#8217;t have any answers but I know longer believe in the Tooth Fairy, the obvious and coincidences.  If there is one thing that the Bushco crowd has proven to be good at is being opprotunistic at  manipulation of how things are presented.  They have been really slipping at this game as of late, but they have managed to smoke screen a really large pile of shit.  We could smell it but visibility was limited.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MEP, I don&#039;t feel picked on, and I share your frustration with the current completely sold-out nature of the MSM.  It&#039;s largely why I simply don&#039;t watch cable or network news anymore.

I suppose that I&#039;m simply baffled about the extent to which the whole Plame issue revolved around legalities and technicalities, seemingly without any consideration of the consequences of what had happened: a covert network of intelligence-gathering and carefully cultivated human assets, focused on preventing nuclear proliferation, had been blown by guys supposedly on our team.

At the end of the day, it baffles me that the people involved are able to sleep at night.  And at some level, perhaps I like to imagine that they don&#039;t.  But they probably do, soundly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MEP, I don&#8217;t feel picked on, and I share your frustration with the current completely sold-out nature of the MSM.  It&#8217;s largely why I simply don&#8217;t watch cable or network news anymore.</p>
<p>I suppose that I&#8217;m simply baffled about the extent to which the whole Plame issue revolved around legalities and technicalities, seemingly without any consideration of the consequences of what had happened: a covert network of intelligence-gathering and carefully cultivated human assets, focused on preventing nuclear proliferation, had been blown by guys supposedly on our team.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it baffles me that the people involved are able to sleep at night.  And at some level, perhaps I like to imagine that they don&#8217;t.  But they probably do, soundly.</p>
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		<title>By: Adm Happy Horatio Hornhonker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/552/novaks-rude-awakening/#comment-13452</link>
		<dc:creator>Adm Happy Horatio Hornhonker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~

If anyone is looking for a lame excuse for this water carrier for the current scumbags ... look no further than the Patriot Act and the &quot;national security letters.&quot;

Maybe &quot;poor Bob&quot; has been issued one or more of the 140,000 &quot;national security letters&quot; under the threat of criminal prosecution that has directed him to shut his pie-hole on the specific true facts behind this case and be a good little soldier and march in lockstep with the rest of this fascist regime.

Read on: My National Security Letter Gag Order (&lt;a href=&quot;http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nrakz)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nrakz)&lt;/a&gt;

Adm HHH

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<p>If anyone is looking for a lame excuse for this water carrier for the current scumbags &#8230; look no further than the Patriot Act and the &#8220;national security letters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe &#8220;poor Bob&#8221; has been issued one or more of the 140,000 &#8220;national security letters&#8221; under the threat of criminal prosecution that has directed him to shut his pie-hole on the specific true facts behind this case and be a good little soldier and march in lockstep with the rest of this fascist regime.</p>
<p>Read on: My National Security Letter Gag Order (<a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nrakz)" rel="nofollow">http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nrakz)</a></p>
<p>Adm HHH</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM

I don&#039;t mean to pick on you.It&#039;s just that you really hit one of my exposed nerves.  Expecting truth and integrity out of our current MSM is like playing the tables in South Mississippi back in the 60s and 70s when it was illegal and gee......FIXED.  We keep wanting to believe that our voices will get a fair hearing.  The tables belong to the HOUSE, the cards and dice are supplied by the HOUSE.  The local law is appionted by....you guessed it the HOUSE.  There are a few exceptions but damn few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to pick on you.It&#8217;s just that you really hit one of my exposed nerves.  Expecting truth and integrity out of our current MSM is like playing the tables in South Mississippi back in the 60s and 70s when it was illegal and gee&#8230;&#8230;FIXED.  We keep wanting to believe that our voices will get a fair hearing.  The tables belong to the HOUSE, the cards and dice are supplied by the HOUSE.  The local law is appionted by&#8230;.you guessed it the HOUSE.  There are a few exceptions but damn few.</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM
Damn Bubba you are kind....giving him credit for ever having integrity.  For me the lesson from the Novaks of the world is just how deeply our media has been compromised and now controlled.  Roll back 10 15 or 20 yrs.  Would you have ever believed that a paper of record would ever have published such obvious shit?  and continue to employ and defend the author?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM<br />
Damn Bubba you are kind&#8230;.giving him credit for ever having integrity.  For me the lesson from the Novaks of the world is just how deeply our media has been compromised and now controlled.  Roll back 10 15 or 20 yrs.  Would you have ever believed that a paper of record would ever have published such obvious shit?  and continue to employ and defend the author?</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MEP, yeah, I can&#039;t really argue with you on that; I suppose it&#039;s just that I find it difficult to accept that when someone finds their integrity so deeply mired in muck, that they wouldn&#039;t do something to save even a shred of it.

But then again, I get paid a lot less than Novak does...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MEP, yeah, I can&#8217;t really argue with you on that; I suppose it&#8217;s just that I find it difficult to accept that when someone finds their integrity so deeply mired in muck, that they wouldn&#8217;t do something to save even a shred of it.</p>
<p>But then again, I get paid a lot less than Novak does&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MEP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>befundle??? befuddle???? Hell, you get the drift. Now you know why I always tried to date a senior english major.</description>
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