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		<title>By: ksclematis</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-933076</link>
		<dc:creator>ksclematis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great &#039;toon, Pat!!

Well, there&#039;s something more to be said about paying the FICA, etc.   My (ex)husband and I started a small busness and after about the third year we were doing better than before....but....ONLY HE could pay into FICA....I didn&#039;t exist except to work in the business full time.  Several years later, we divorced and I got the business.  It was after that time the law was changed and both married partners of a business could pay into FICA.  So, now after we divorced and I retired, I could get more Social Security on the amount I paid in for the years that I worked than ANY that he paid for 30 years!.....he now gets several hundred dollars a month more from Social Security than I do....and only when he dies do I get to claim on &quot;some&quot; amount that he paid in...that doesn&#039;t look too promising.  I closed the business and worked another job for 10 years, and the &quot;givernment&quot; sez I&#039;m below the poverty level.  But I&#039;m not worried yet...my house, car and everything are paid in full, and my credit card is paid every month....  My parents taught me how to survive on what you had to work with and not to buy what you couldn&#039;t aford to pay.   It&#039;s working for me....!! Yes, I pay for my own supplemental health insurance! and I don&#039;t know what I&#039;d have done without it for the past couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great &#8216;toon, Pat!!</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s something more to be said about paying the FICA, etc.   My (ex)husband and I started a small busness and after about the third year we were doing better than before&#8230;.but&#8230;.ONLY HE could pay into FICA&#8230;.I didn&#8217;t exist except to work in the business full time.  Several years later, we divorced and I got the business.  It was after that time the law was changed and both married partners of a business could pay into FICA.  So, now after we divorced and I retired, I could get more Social Security on the amount I paid in for the years that I worked than ANY that he paid for 30 years!&#8230;..he now gets several hundred dollars a month more from Social Security than I do&#8230;.and only when he dies do I get to claim on &#8220;some&#8221; amount that he paid in&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t look too promising.  I closed the business and worked another job for 10 years, and the &#8220;givernment&#8221; sez I&#8217;m below the poverty level.  But I&#8217;m not worried yet&#8230;my house, car and everything are paid in full, and my credit card is paid every month&#8230;.  My parents taught me how to survive on what you had to work with and not to buy what you couldn&#8217;t aford to pay.   It&#8217;s working for me&#8230;.!! Yes, I pay for my own supplemental health insurance! and I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;d have done without it for the past couple of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Under Obama’s socialistic plan, after paying all of those taxes, the ability to save for such a rainy day would be reduced, guaranteeing more people would end up dependent on President Government for handouts. The solution? Raise more taxes to support more people, I suppose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what I don&#039;t like.

I don&#039;t have any family on whom to depend.  My savings is my lifeline, and I&#039;m still building it back up after the dot com and 2008 debacles.  Higher taxes on me and higher prices = less income I can put into savings = greater chance I will need government handouts later to stay alive, which is very distasteful to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Under Obama’s socialistic plan, after paying all of those taxes, the ability to save for such a rainy day would be reduced, guaranteeing more people would end up dependent on President Government for handouts. The solution? Raise more taxes to support more people, I suppose.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any family on whom to depend.  My savings is my lifeline, and I&#8217;m still building it back up after the dot com and 2008 debacles.  Higher taxes on me and higher prices = less income I can put into savings = greater chance I will need government handouts later to stay alive, which is very distasteful to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And business tax (called BPOL, B&amp;O, etc., depending on the state in which your business is located), for the privilege of doing business.

It&#039;s usually just a fraction of a percent, but it&#039;s on your GROSS RECEIPTS, not net.  Depending on your expense structure (for example, if you run a service business with high-paid staff, or some other high-expense business), it can easily mean a few percent off your bottom line if the profit margin in your industry is low.

Both the state and the city may levy these taxes, independent of each other.

Yes, if I still had my small business, I&#039;d write in, too.  I was appalled at how much of our income went to taxes.  If it wasn&#039;t for R&amp;D deductions and related credits, some years it would have been very close to a 50-50 split between the company (me and all 2-3 of my employees), and the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And business tax (called BPOL, B&amp;O, etc., depending on the state in which your business is located), for the privilege of doing business.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s usually just a fraction of a percent, but it&#8217;s on your GROSS RECEIPTS, not net.  Depending on your expense structure (for example, if you run a service business with high-paid staff, or some other high-expense business), it can easily mean a few percent off your bottom line if the profit margin in your industry is low.</p>
<p>Both the state and the city may levy these taxes, independent of each other.</p>
<p>Yes, if I still had my small business, I&#8217;d write in, too.  I was appalled at how much of our income went to taxes.  If it wasn&#8217;t for R&amp;D deductions and related credits, some years it would have been very close to a 50-50 split between the company (me and all 2-3 of my employees), and the government.</p>
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		<title>By: GBS</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-927001</link>
		<dc:creator>GBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great commentary - taxes are truly one of the important issues, and the impact on small businesses like yours is particularly important. The plight of JTP illustrates this very well.  Your artwork is right on target!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary &#8211; taxes are truly one of the important issues, and the impact on small businesses like yours is particularly important. The plight of JTP illustrates this very well.  Your artwork is right on target!</p>
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		<title>By: Don S</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-926276</link>
		<dc:creator>Don S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Joe the plumber cartoon has certainly sparked a lot of interesting and intelligent comments as well as some off the wall rants.

Both McCain and Obama have access to some pretty experienced and astute economic advisers.  I think by not being very specific about how their plans will affect people in different economic circumstances, they both open the door to a lot of criticism.  People view their respective plans through the prism of their own biases.

McCain says this is not a time to raise taxes on anybody.  That should play well with everybody.  But the queston remains as to how the country can get out of this economic mess unless taxes are raised on someone.  I don&#039;t think it is unreasonable that the big corporations should be expected to pay more taxes than they currently do.  As for Obama&#039;s plan, I don&#039;t know if $250,000 is or isn&#039;t a realistic cutoff for not paying more taxes.  I sure wish I took home anywhere near $250,000.  I wouldn&#039;t mind paying a little more taxes if I did. 

I do think both candidates need to flesh out their plans more and not talk in generalities. I wish they would expain how they are going to get us out of the economic mess we are in. Many of us who have stock investments have seen a big drop in our stock values.

Many people have had to sell their stocks at depressed values in order to just pay their bills. Many are walking away from their houses because their house is now worth less than their mortgage.  Costs of food and medicine and health care are skyrocketing.  It certainly sounds good to hear someone say let&#039;s not raise taxes on anybody.  Sounds great, but is it realistic?

No matter what promises the candidates make, they are unlikely to be able to keep them. This is partly why they remain vague about details.  What actually will happen will depend upon the balance of power in the House and Senate.  There will be endless hassles over budgets and budget cuts, earmarked funds, etc

So it seems to me, you pick your candidate, and you live with the results.  And the results are unlikely to resemble anything you hope will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Joe the plumber cartoon has certainly sparked a lot of interesting and intelligent comments as well as some off the wall rants.</p>
<p>Both McCain and Obama have access to some pretty experienced and astute economic advisers.  I think by not being very specific about how their plans will affect people in different economic circumstances, they both open the door to a lot of criticism.  People view their respective plans through the prism of their own biases.</p>
<p>McCain says this is not a time to raise taxes on anybody.  That should play well with everybody.  But the queston remains as to how the country can get out of this economic mess unless taxes are raised on someone.  I don&#8217;t think it is unreasonable that the big corporations should be expected to pay more taxes than they currently do.  As for Obama&#8217;s plan, I don&#8217;t know if $250,000 is or isn&#8217;t a realistic cutoff for not paying more taxes.  I sure wish I took home anywhere near $250,000.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind paying a little more taxes if I did. </p>
<p>I do think both candidates need to flesh out their plans more and not talk in generalities. I wish they would expain how they are going to get us out of the economic mess we are in. Many of us who have stock investments have seen a big drop in our stock values.</p>
<p>Many people have had to sell their stocks at depressed values in order to just pay their bills. Many are walking away from their houses because their house is now worth less than their mortgage.  Costs of food and medicine and health care are skyrocketing.  It certainly sounds good to hear someone say let&#8217;s not raise taxes on anybody.  Sounds great, but is it realistic?</p>
<p>No matter what promises the candidates make, they are unlikely to be able to keep them. This is partly why they remain vague about details.  What actually will happen will depend upon the balance of power in the House and Senate.  There will be endless hassles over budgets and budget cuts, earmarked funds, etc</p>
<p>So it seems to me, you pick your candidate, and you live with the results.  And the results are unlikely to resemble anything you hope will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Melisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925824</link>
		<dc:creator>Melisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Melisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925816</link>
		<dc:creator>Melisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I just read to about page 40 in this article, and it is well worth a read! It is so obvious! My gosh, this is beyond anything we have ever seen. 
I always thought of myself as being quite suggestible, but when I would watch him, I would find myself asking &quot;what is he actually saying? I don&#039;t here anything here I can cognitively evaluate...&quot; I thought it was my lack of finesse in postmodern speak. But, no, it is more than that. He is giving hypnotic suggestions, and must bypass reason to do it. Oy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I just read to about page 40 in this article, and it is well worth a read! It is so obvious! My gosh, this is beyond anything we have ever seen.<br />
I always thought of myself as being quite suggestible, but when I would watch him, I would find myself asking &#8220;what is he actually saying? I don&#8217;t here anything here I can cognitively evaluate&#8230;&#8221; I thought it was my lack of finesse in postmodern speak. But, no, it is more than that. He is giving hypnotic suggestions, and must bypass reason to do it. Oy!</p>
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		<title>By: bethtopaz</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925671</link>
		<dc:creator>bethtopaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say it&#039;s time for the Obamas and the Bidens to start spreading their wealth around.

I&#039;m waiting for my check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say it&#8217;s time for the Obamas and the Bidens to start spreading their wealth around.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting for my check.</p>
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		<title>By: American Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925582</link>
		<dc:creator>American Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama told Joe the plumber..he would raise the taxes on REVENUES, so that would be gross ...I just heard an Obama spokes person state it was on GROSS...sorry can&#039;t remember her name..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama told Joe the plumber..he would raise the taxes on REVENUES, so that would be gross &#8230;I just heard an Obama spokes person state it was on GROSS&#8230;sorry can&#8217;t remember her name..</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Playwright</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925521</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Playwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE, mods or tech savvy McCain/Palin folks who love Hillary, tell EVERYBODY that a write-in vote for Hillary goes straight to Obama because they&#039;re both Democrats!  The machines will read it that way.

Check with your Board of Elections--it&#039;s true!

Hillary is not officially registered for write-in status in any state, so your vote for her is not only wasted and will not count for her, it will go to Barack!  

Better to vote for McCain, which is like taking two votes from Obama.  Staying home helps Obama and writing in Hillary is a disaster for PUMAs.  With all the ACORN fraud, writing in Hillary will put Obama over the top.

Country First!  Vote McCain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE, mods or tech savvy McCain/Palin folks who love Hillary, tell EVERYBODY that a write-in vote for Hillary goes straight to Obama because they&#8217;re both Democrats!  The machines will read it that way.</p>
<p>Check with your Board of Elections&#8211;it&#8217;s true!</p>
<p>Hillary is not officially registered for write-in status in any state, so your vote for her is not only wasted and will not count for her, it will go to Barack!  </p>
<p>Better to vote for McCain, which is like taking two votes from Obama.  Staying home helps Obama and writing in Hillary is a disaster for PUMAs.  With all the ACORN fraud, writing in Hillary will put Obama over the top.</p>
<p>Country First!  Vote McCain!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925320</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I am wrong, but aren&#039;t franchise businesses such as McDonalds, Burger King, Subway, etc. classified as small businesses? The individual franchise owner of these businesses will be hit real hard.  There goes the price of a Big Mac!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I am wrong, but aren&#8217;t franchise businesses such as McDonalds, Burger King, Subway, etc. classified as small businesses? The individual franchise owner of these businesses will be hit real hard.  There goes the price of a Big Mac!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925258</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that I do not live in a large city nor even in a middle-sized city.  I live in an area of my state that is largely rural.  Wages are lower here than on the other side of the state but the cost of living is much higher.  The majority of employers where I live are construction companies, and you all know how that classification of employer is taking a big hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that I do not live in a large city nor even in a middle-sized city.  I live in an area of my state that is largely rural.  Wages are lower here than on the other side of the state but the cost of living is much higher.  The majority of employers where I live are construction companies, and you all know how that classification of employer is taking a big hit.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Moss</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925206</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is introducing Phil the Bricklayer right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is introducing Phil the Bricklayer right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5521/are-you-joe-the-plumber/#comment-925180</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget Workers&#039; Compensation Fund that an employer has to pay on any employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Workers&#8217; Compensation Fund that an employer has to pay on any employee.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wish I still owned my business; I would be calling right now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m with you.  I was forced to close my small paralegal temp. business this year after 15 years.  All the law firms that had scheduled me for the current year, cancelled because they were/are experiencing a downturn in clients being unable to pay their attorney fees in a timely manner.  So, outside assistants like me are not being contracted.

I experienced a slight downturn shortly after 9/11, but it was short-lived.  Not this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wish I still owned my business; I would be calling right now.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m with you.  I was forced to close my small paralegal temp. business this year after 15 years.  All the law firms that had scheduled me for the current year, cancelled because they were/are experiencing a downturn in clients being unable to pay their attorney fees in a timely manner.  So, outside assistants like me are not being contracted.</p>
<p>I experienced a slight downturn shortly after 9/11, but it was short-lived.  Not this time.</p>
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