How Palin Is Responsible For Rep. Giffords Being Shot

An internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) memo quoted by FOX News Channel revealed the gunman – named by the media as Jared Loughner, 22 – is “possibly linked” to American Renaissance.
The group subscribes to an ideology that is “anti-government, anti-immigration, anti -ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic,” according to the DHS memo.
Giffords “is the first Jewish female elected to such a high position in the US government. She was also opposite this group’s ideology when it came to immigration debate,” the note said.
The suspect’s mother works the Pima County Board of Supervisors in Arizona, the briefing added.
The DHS confirmed that the FBI have now taken over the investigation.
 

Rev Amy,

The more we know about his young man, the more we know that he has a long history of run-ins with the police, who even were called to his home various times for disturbances. They never arrested him and had him evaluated under The Baker Act for a 72-hour psych evaluation. He was kicked out of the local Community College and told he could not return until he had a mental status evaluation completed. He was rejected for enlistment by the Army, presumably on the basis of testing which revealed signs of mental instability [I say presumably because that is precisely the process prospective enlistees go through; a series of tests designed to analyze stablity and skills for military service]. As well, now the FBI is investigating this Anti-Semitic/Anti-Immigration/Anti-Government group American Renaissance, which is suspected of having a link to Loughner. 

All of these public/service organizations, the college, the police, the recruiters, failed to connect the dots. Thus, he was able to legally purchase a gun at Sportsman’s Warehouse. It’s a horrible tragedy indeed, just as the shootings at Univ. of VA were a horrific tragedy. 

What I fear, with the wrongful suggestion that somehow, Sarah Palin is to blame, is that those with PDS may be subliminally suggesting/hoping that Sarah be harmed; that since they have already stupidly linked Sarah to the evil deed, that such action is justified or even necessary.  Is Palin really such a threat when everyday we read how she is falling in the polls?

They are telling us that the angry rhetoric of the political opposition is the cause of this tragedy.   Will anyone talk about how American anger against politicians is justified?  Our manufacturing base is gone, our 401Ks are looted, unemployment is more then likely over 11%, some unemployed will never work again, they used the Social Security money they confiscated from my paycheck for over 30 years as though it was their own private piggy bank and now they are saying SS is an “entitlement and needs to go”  retirement age needs to be raised to 70, because there is no more money there.  They want to put death panels on our forced health care cause if your dead you can’t collect SS.  Or maybe it’s so not just the primary person can go bankrupt paying for health care our insurance should have but won’t have to now, maybe they think if they refuse care the rest of the family will pitch in to buy grandma a new hip or provide cancer treatments and they will have a whole new source of revenue.      I could go on and on. 

The shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords or anyone is an awful tragedy.  It was media and the people who rushed to get their faces on the news who are inciting violence against Sarah Palen and the Tea Party a lot of who are my friends and neighbors.  They even reported her dead to further their agenda.

And one other thing, they (the politicians and news whores) who want to make this awful tragedy political should, for the very reasons listed above, be careful what they wish for.   I believe they are trying to use this awful event to suppress the people, make it politically incorrect to oppose anything they do.  

Thank you Sarah Palen for your sincerity and honesty and because , for now,  I won’t have to face a death panel.

BTW – those ‘crosshairs’ that everyone keeps commenting about on Sarah Palin’s map?  If everyone would take the time (minutes actually) to do a little research – they would discover that the symbol is a surveyor’s symbol – not the crosshairs of a gun scope – of course, one would have to have 1 – knowledge of guns; 2 – be able to do research and & actually look for information; 3 – know what a target looks like (suggest – take a look at the DNCC map – very definitive target); 4 – not be a graduate of any Ivy League or other higher institute of supposed education – how only hearing leftist teachings makes one well informed & educated is hard for me to fathom

So glad I am no longer a ‘sheeple’ & BTW – have written email to FOX news asking them to fire Rivera – he is an idiot and has been so in my view since the al capone vault issue – he tried very very hard to blame this tragic shooting incident on Sarah Palin and TEA party people -

TEA Party people were not the ones who said – “if someone brings a knife, we bring a gun”…………………………………..  If words matter, then the issue starts at the top with the vitriol that comes from the White House (think it might have something to do with sitting in the church pews listening to Rev Wright for 20 years – OMG – is that racist?  Who cares? – truth is truth…..)

Snip from “Gabrielle Giffords and the rightwing hate machine (on the bogus equivalency between right/left extremism)” by Peter Daou  
“We do not yet know whether the Arizona massacre was directly fueled by rightwing rhetoric. But we do know this: one of the most dangerous myths promulgated by the media and political establishment is that there is a comparable level of extremism among conservatives and liberals, that left and right are mirror images.
Even the most cursory perusal of rightwing radio, television, blogs and assorted punditry illustrates a profound distinction: in large measure, the right’s overarching purpose is to stoke hatred of the left, of liberalism. The right’s messaging infrastructure, meticulously constructed and refined over decades, promotes an image of liberals as traitors and America-haters, unworthy of their country and bent on destroying it. There is simply no comparable propaganda effort on the left.
The imbalance is stark: Democrats and liberals rail against the right’s ideas; the right rails against the left’s very existence.
The result is an atmosphere where bigotry thrives, where science and reason are under assault, where progress (associated with progressivism) is frowned upon. And it’s an atmosphere where violence becomes more likely. Pretending this is not the case is to enable it.
The deeply-etched themes that run through American politics reflect the right’s successful framing: Democrats and liberals are wimps, Republicans and conservatives are gun-toting patriots; Democrats and liberals despise their country, Republicans and conservatives are the only ones willing to protect it; Democrats and liberals want to intrude on your freedom, tax you and bankrupt the nation, Republicans and conservatives want to give you freedom, liberty and wealth. The current of eliminationism infusing the right’s worldview is an inevitable outcome of such contorted impressions – it’s a natural impulse to want to destroy that which is (supposedly) destroying you.
Those who foist the false right/left equivalency ignore this reality. Their definition of extremism is necessarily warped, since they have to stretch logic to fabricate a sense of balance. If you want single-payer health care, you’re a liberal extremist, but if you deny global warming, you’re simply a conservative skeptic. As the national discourse moves further and further right, only the most unhinged rightwingers are tagged as extreme, while all it takes for a liberal to be labeled an extremist is to espouse a policy position that is out of the mainstream. That is not to say there are not violent individuals and extremists on the left, but that it is absurd to argue that left and right are comparable in the language of violence and incitement.
When center becomes right and right becomes far right, conservatives can get away with wilder and weirder behavior. Exhortations from radio blatherers to bash liberals are dismissed as “entertainment.” Glenn Beck’s bizarre rantings barely get a yawn. This has been a long time coming and culpability lies not just with the haters but with those in the media and Democratic establishment who refuse to confront the hate-mongering when they see it.”

olbermann doing his best to stoke the fire….effen loser….http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/302352

He should lose his job NOW!!  Could he be anymore irresponsible?

“Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

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Representative Giffords was a true moderate, supported the second amendment, supported strengthening border security, was all in favor of the reading of the Constitution in the House last week , and voted against Pelosi for minority leader. By all accounts, she was well respected by representatives on both sides of the aisle, and I’m sure that the one person most distressed by the politicalization of this tragedy would be Representative Giffords herself.  

Here is (D) Joe Manchin in his ad:  Dead Aim.

The above by Daou can be read in its entirety at:
http://tinyurl.com/385znx6

Here is Christina Green. 

Hitler was in fact left. But it is funny how the left always has a pocket Hitler to throw out just when they need it. When all else fails just call them a Hitler.

Rev. Amy—Thank you thank you thank you for helping to set the record of facts straight!

It’s a heartbreaking situation all around.  Tragic enough that innocent people died.  But then to use it to further a political agenda by smearing a fine, admirable and upstanding person like Sarah Palin is beyond comprehensible.  I’m so disgusted I don’t quite know how to express it. 

I continue to pray for Rep Gabby Giffords, all of the families effected as well as Sarah Palin and others who are being targeted with mindless, hatefilled accusations. 

Jesus is surely crying in heaven right now.

“If you want single-payer health care, you’re a liberal extremist, but if you deny global warming, you’re simply a conservative skeptic.” 

Wasn’t it rather extreme of Alan Grayson to accuse ALL Republicans of wanting people to “Just Die!”? Because they resisted socialized health care, Grayson painted all Conservatives as heartlessly evil bastards who believed that the ‘final solution’ to healthcare was ‘death’

And I seem to recall countless comparisons between global warming deniers and HOLOCAUST DENIERS! And you think that political rhetoric has shifted favorably to the right? Where have you been?

Good post, Rev Amy. What a sad tragedy.

I’m not a Dem anymore, haven’t been for a few years, but I did support Gabrielle Gifford and spoke up for her as I speak up for most female politicians. I can vouch for the fact that a great deal of the hate filled rhetoric towards her in the past couple of years actually came from fauxgressives or the left. I’ve lost track of all the hate filled screeds I’ve read about her just like those on Dkos. Heck, I was attacked, by Democrats.

The real truth is that Gov Palin and Gov Brewer respect and admire Gabrielle Gifford. They have expressed grief and sadness over this atrocity and are praying for her recovery. Gifford is a blue dog, fairly moderate politician who is not hated by the right, she is more disliked by this current crop of Obots.

Fish rots from the head or leadership comes from the top down. I don’t blame Obama for this incident, I just feel sad that his example and the philosophy of this current crop of Dems has fueled so much hatred and political fever in this country. This shooter probably had a mental disorder, but what is the media’s excuse??! I mean, they are literally fueling the fires of hatred towards Palin. What hypocrisy to complain about rhetoric and hysteria…while directing more of the same towards Palin!

Yep, it’s disgusting that Democrats are trying to politiize a supposed “friend” “colleague”.  Apparently the Republicans are more friends.  You don’t see them trying to claim how the left is so intolerant that this Blue Dog former Republicans was their target.

Democrats are trying to use Bill Clinton’s “McVeigh” blame glame in politicizing Gabrielle Giffords for a win in 2012.

Democrats have no shame.  They are bottom feeders. GROSS.

Hey Gang, long time no see as I have been absolutely swamped after the company received long awaited funding. However, I’ve been and am currently in Charlotte so yesterday morning I called my CTO at corporate in California to screen capture Laughner’s FB Page and he got it seconds before it went down. Let me see if I can attach this. 
 

ah, so many excuses for what was predicted. The point isn’t that others are also guilty of calling for a metaphorical action that predictably would and will again be taken literally by those who don’t live in the virtual world, and who suffer from delusions of persecution, and who find their ‘meaning’ in folie aux deux that culminates in an act of violence, the point is hate speech has consequences.  Poor Sarah, who feels her own persecution, and retaliates, can’t understand that she’s not a victim either, can’t see why she should be required to speak responsibly, she has her free speech, let the rest of us duck for cover.  

The tea party isn’t a unified group, so it’s the self-named leaders of this so-called party that point out the enemies and call for 2nd amendment solutions.  Any group built on sharing grievances attracts the paranoid, not all of whom understand metaphor.  

Seymour—- It’s GREAT to hear from you again!

Sadly one of these days someone is going to read what the media blames on Palin and take matters into their own hands…
The media needs to get off their blaming arses and start mending fences instead of making the matters worse out there.

“If you want single-payer health care, you’re a liberal extremist, but if you deny global warming, you’re simply a conservative skeptic.”   
 
Wasn’t it rather extreme of Alan Grayson to accuse ALL Republicans of wanting people to “Just Die!”? Because they resisted socialized health care, Grayson painted all Conservatives as heartlessly evil bastards who believed that the ‘final solution’ to healthcare was ‘death’  
 
And I seem to recall countless comparisons between rational global warming skeptics and HOLOCAUST DENIERS! And you think that political rhetoric has shifted favorably to the right? Where have you been?

You sound like the king of liberal wuss who likes to dish it out, but can’t take his own medicine.

if you set yourself us as a leader, you don’t get to select your followers.  Sarah’s not the only one who’s called for getting rid of certain congresspersons, others speak of the second amendment solution, but hate speech from the right isn’t so very old, there used to be respect for offices, used to be a time when ‘you lie’ wasn’t hurled at the president, for one example. It’s all very out of control, there are some young American men who suffer from paranoid schizophrenia who find their meaning in such calls to action, with these kinds of results.  She had the right to put up her hit list, she was warned that there would be consequences and she chose to ignore those warnings, so being blamed now as part of the problem is her consequence.  Poor Sarah, what a victim of persecution is she.  

Someone better hard copy that one or it will disappear like all the rest of the stuff has on Obama.

LTNS, anna shane.  Wish it had been longer.

We can hate or we can heal. Guess what side I’m on? 

I agree Kinthenorthwest but I won’t hold my breath until it happens. The media loves the fights and the name-calling and the way that we fight each other instead of the real enemies of this county, the media and the pols that do their best to turn us against each other.

Someday maybe enough people will see that and will stop listening to the scum that thrive on disturbed people killing and maiming and the scum that try to turn every tragedy into an excuse to point fingers at whichever political party they don’t happen to support.

We all have friends, family and neighbors who are on the “opposite” side of our particular political beliefs. They aren’t thugs and killers and thieves and liars. They are ordinary citizens that just don’t see things the same way that we do. For the most part.

Then you have the kind of scum that come here and try to incite us by claiming that people that we like and support are to blame for the actions of a psychotic individual.

Scum is scum and both media, trolls and pols that lie and distort should be shunned. They are a taint on our country, our politics and our souls. If I didn’t despise them so very much I would be sorry for them for having to live within their shriveled little selves. But the harm they do is too egregious for pity. I am left only with loathing and revulsion.

Honey, when it comes to paranoia you wrote the book.  
 
You ran me off one blog a couple of years ago.  Allow me to show you the exit here.

And the winner of the most bizarre,
overwrought, hysterical denunciation
of Sarah Palin by a brainless lefty is…

American Thinker,
by Rick Moran   

Original Article

1/9/2011

It’s not Paul Krugman, although I know he has many fans on the right who were hoping he would win the prize because he fits the “brainless” description so aptly. Nor is it any lefty blogger who, over the last 24 hrs, has stretched, and stretched, and stretched the point some more about Sarah Palin’s “target” list actually meaning that she hoped someone or someones would grab a gun and off the congressmen she wanted defeated. Sorry – you’re all wrong. The winner is the

NY Daily News’ Michael Daly.

Rev Amy

Excellent article!  Palin is the left’s punching bag because they are afraid of her.  She was one of the reasons that the Tea Party candidates scored hugh victories in November. 

The concept of the Fourth Estate in this country is gone.  The Republican nominee running in 2012 will not only campaign against Obama but the hateful media groups including the NY Times, the WP, NBC/MSBC, ABC, CBS, and so on.  All these outlets are obsessed to connect this to Palin, the Tea Party or anything Republican. 

Even in my state of CA, the way the news is framed is very slanted.  Fox and all the conservative commentators are gaining popularity because they are the only ones in the way of this massive power grab by Obama and the Democrats.

IDS for Internet Users
Government Controlled Health Care
Nationalizing major industries
Cap & Trade and the end of the energy industry in the US
Control over the Internet through the FCC 

If Hitler was far left then why did he have the support of the major industrialists in Germany and was opposed by the German Communist Party?

Left Shamelessly Seeks to
Exploit Arizona Tragedy
 
Commentary Magazine,
by Jonathan S. Tobin   

Original Article

1/9/2011

The shooting in Arizona is the sort of thing that obligates all sides in political debates to call a timeout. Right now our collective prayers are with Rep. Giffords and her family as she struggles for life as well as with the families of those who were murdered in this senseless evil attack. But acting in the spirit of Rahm Emanuel’s belief that a crisis shouldn’t go to waste, some on the left are determined to exploit this tragedy to advance their own partisan interests.

Hitler was a fascist who believes in an authoritarian state where business is emboldened to do what is especially in the interest of the state (nation). But the Nazis had plenty of right wing values: anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, sexism (women were nothing more than wombs to bear Aryans; sounds like right wing anti-choice movement who view woman as wombs), religious intolerance, immigrant bashing, and extreme rhetoric to incite violence against enemies are all values of the right. Nazis were atheists, too.

This guy’s rantings were also based on right wing rhetoric, not just crazy ideas from his head. The conspiracy theory about “conscious dreaming” (sic) is from UK right winger is David Icke. His “government controls grammar” is also from a radical right-winger David Wynn Miller (he murdered two cops)of the “Sovereign Citizen” movement. The gold standard rantings are prominent values of libertarian ,radical rightists, most prominently the right wing media star Glen Beck (he is also sponsored by a company backing the gold standard). He specifically cited Gifford’s district as one that uses grammar to control the minds of the people. He never cited any specific ideals of the Communist Manifesto, he only cited right wing ideals.

Let’s see now, by blaming the left for exploiting this tragedy, isn’t the author also exploiting this tragedy for political purposes? (And that goes for  anyone else who’s blaming somebody or other for this event.)  Typical american reaction; run off at the mouth despite NOT KNOWING a damn thing about the reasons or causes of the action.  We need to be FIRST with the news, whether it’s right or wrong.  It’s called using opinion and speculation as NEWS.  It isn’t. 

I find it interesting that the left are now getting on their soap box and telling us that hateful language has to place in our society and people like Palin are hateful.  During the election, there was an effigy of Palin hanging in someone’s front yard but it was justified by the left as “art” and freedom of expression. All the hate language coming from celebs such as Sandra Bernhart stating Palin would get ‘gang raped’ was considerered freedom of speech and entertainment sake.  Everyone in the media like Anderson cooper and politicians alike were openly calling Tea Party participants racists and practically KKK members without any proof other than that they oppose the current state of government and their way of doing business.  Unfortunately, the logic in a rational meaningful conversation is no longer there because there is a definite disconnect in people’s words and deeds; and thus, no self reflection.  People believe in the rules of conduct only when it suits them.

A very sick young man committed a terrible crime.  May the independent thinking, fair, compassionate and best-of-American consciousness focus on prayers, good thoughts and support for the recovery of the injured and solace for the family and friends of the dead.  May justice be served in calling this disturbed young man to account for his deeds and peace be granted to his family and friends as they live out the rest of their lives.

Surgeons say Giffords
showing positive signs

Associated Press,
by Pauline Arrillaga &
Amanda Lee Myers   

Original Article

1/9/2011 

TUCSON, Ariz.

– Doctors treating wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords provided an optimistic update Sunday about her chances for survival, saying they are “very, very encouraged” by her ability to respond to simple commands along with their success in controlling her bleeding. The FBI said law enforcement could bring charges against the gunman as early as Sunday, and House Speaker John Boehner said normal House business this week has been postponed in the aftermath of the shooting.

(Snip) They credited several reasons for her survival, including good luck and the fact that paramedics got her to surgeons quickly — in under 40 minutes.

Looking at the trolls’ comments here, I see that PDS is in full force.  I am concerned that some Lefty lunatic (not all Lefties, bot don’t try to tell me that there are none) will decide that this despicable assassination attempt means that it is Open Season on Tea Party supporters in general and specifically Sarah Palin.

Hitler was a nationalist socialist and a corporatist fascist… but above all he was a slick salesman who could give commanding speeches. Doesn’t remind me of anybody on the right currently.

Another ignorant troll. If any of the leftists really knew what her “hit list” was, it would be a huge surprise. Totally ignorant of facts and what they mean.

How about it’s calling it for what it is. What? You suggest that people just “sit down and take all this shit that is being spewed by the left? Not allowed to stick up for anything anymore? I blame that fact that the kid was nuts, what made him that way, who knows? But I sure hell ain’t blaming the left, but I also won’t shut up when you’re blaming the right and the tea party or Palin. Got it?

Ignorant troll alert.

You  mean like how Wall Street and their ilk backed Obama in 2008? Like that?

The Censorship Of Madmen
 
Human Events,
by John Hayward   

Original Article

1/9/2011 

Within hours of the attack on Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords, liberal bloggers, pundits, and even politicians raced to pin responsibility on the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the general “climate of hate” produced by opposition to President Obama’s agenda.

(Snip) What would be a great loss would be allowing madmen to censor our discourse. The idea that millions of Americans should meekly submit to an aggressive statist agenda, because resistance might provoke a lunatic to shoot a congresswoman, is deeply offensive to the ideals of liberty and free speech.

Well Said! Thank you!

That’s a reach, Guest. 

An effigy of Palin HANGING. 

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun.” Obama. 

So much more. 

The vitriol is disgusting from people like Keith Olbermann and others. 

Thanks goes out to Howard Kurtz–who I generally don’t like–for his show on CNN this morning, Reliable Sources, and his language of moderation! He’s at least trying to be a calming influence on his colleagues in the media!

Because Keith Olbermann and his ilk at Daily Kos and Michael Daly at NYDailyNews, who says Sarah Palin has “blood on her hands,” [!] are nothing but disgusting, dangerous DEMOGOGUES, who should be fired for breach of journalism ethics charges. 

Not that I expect MSNBC to give a shit what their “anchors” say on live television; they certainly never have bothered to restrain them.

I couldn’t be more disgusted by the frenzy of hate coming from liberals–who started spewing their lies and hate the minute Giffords was shot, trying to EXPLOIT HER SHOOTING to blame conservatives for it. 

My God. Saying Palin has “blood on her hands?” That’s outrageous. 

i.e. Anna Shame….

“thirty years of right-wing ideology?” Are you kidding? 

The Democrats had the Congress and the Oval Office most of the past 30 years. And, that’s why we’re in this sorry state. 

And, that “class war” thing you keep regurgitating? 

It’s MARXISM you moron. 

I finally saw the Palin map with the crosshairs. It is a criminal lie, in my opinion, to state that Palin had crosshairs on Giffords…the crosshairs were on the state for godssake. Crosshairs on the state of AZ.

The press are liars. Liars. Not just ethically compromised…but, lying about world events.

I stopped watching Meet the Press years ago.  You can’t really expect anything of value or of legitimacy from a political talk show on NBC.

Well, I wanted a short bio-pic of the impact of the last 30 years of “right wing ideology” and it’s impact. But I found something that will suffice, I think, for giving you a snap shot of what the major policy decisions were of various presidents over the past 40 years. Of course, this is just a snapshot and doesn’t include the impact of the various Congresses elected and how they impacted the White House, but it does include the fact that the Community Re-investment Act, which Carter enacted, and Clinton strengthened, have done a whopper of a job of devastating the Middle Class. So, yeah, liberals have had their influence; and it’s all been BAD on the economy.

http://blog.trending123.com/2009/03/review_of_the_last_40_years_si.html

Donjo, with all due respect, I really don’t think Peter Daou has any credibility here. I used to read him; but I”ve given up reading him because he’s just another leftist Democrat Partisan. What he says has as much credibility with me as what Rush Limbaugh would have to you. 

Why persist in using people who are just Dem spoxpeople to make an argument? It’s a waste of your time and ours. 

Hitler was neither “right” or “left,” and he exploited both sides in his megalomaniacal vision of racial purity and ethnic cleansing. He signed a non-aggression pact with a leftist totalitarian, remember? Then he violated it. 

You can’t use Hitler as the definitive for any ideology; Hitler’s ideology was INSANITY. 

Sadly, tragically, and historically, he exploited EVERYONE for his own purposes. And, mostly, people fell for it. 

I did? Didn’t try to. guess we disagree?  

I mean seriously…a list that identifies who the crosshairs are for? Give me a break.

but don’t forget that Daily Kos had “targeted” Giffords way back in 2008…
“…we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I’ve bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis…”
Rep. Giffords was one of the bolded Blue Dogs on the target list.
appears that Daily Kos has “scrubbed” their website..

Strange, isn’t it?  The hardliners never miss a beat, they never let a tragedy go to waste.

As soon as the hardliners took complete power they have thumbed their noses at the American people, shoved ridiculous policies down our throats, threatened to sue the state of Arizona, encouraged others to  break our laws by entering the US illegally and be rewarded with citizenship so the libs could increase their voter base, verbally attacked and ridiculed the Tea Party, white people in general (especially those who are non-libs who do not profess some sort of bizarre guilt complex), Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, talk radio, Americans for Prosperity, Christians, and so on.  

It has been the hardliners who have been on their TV shows calling George Bush a facist on a daily basis, parading one hardliner after another as they called the Tea Party a bunch of racists, nazis, rednecks, tea baggers, etc.  Daily vitriol directed at Sarah Palin with at least one idiot creating an image of her and hanging her in his front yard. 

The hardliners now have the audacity to suggest Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, and talk radio are somehow responsible for these murders.  These people are insane and never miss a beat to try to turn a tragedy into a politcal advantage.  They are determined to demonize the Tea Party at any cost. 

On top of this, they have elected someone as president who sat in a church filled with hate.  I don’t know anyone personally who could have sat through and tolerated the type of hate Wright spewed out week after week without puking.  Instead, Obama embraced Wright and became good friends with him.  Somehow the lib media tried to report that Obama, who of his own volition sat in Wright’s hell hole for 2 decades, was never responsible for his own actions.

If people were interested in rejecting hate they would walk away from the Democrat party.   

actually, ‘government control’ has been part of the paranoid delusion forever, Vicktor Tausk wrote the paper on influencing machine a hundred years ago.  It’s part of the illness, the rhetoric that attracted him has to do with who’s behind that government control, and then it can become one name.  So you really think he could have thought up that congresswoman without a little guidance? And guidance from whom?  Really no one can credibly blame any of those hate speakers for this guys illness, and he probably would have found some other target for his delusion had not this one been pointed out to him. But lots of schizophrenics don’t actually kill anyone and it can’t be known if he would have found a target all on his ownsome.

Thing is, Sarah isn’t persecuted either, she’s a media girl, she cashes in on publicity and she presents herself as persecuted, it’s part of her appeal.  She’ll turn this one into a money making operation too, she’s good. 

PLEASE post this screencap.

Hey everyone. I haven’t posted here in years, but after reading this article I could not help it.  I had the same run in with someone on facebook, until the point that I had to delete this person for their vitriol at trying to pin this on sarah palin and the tea party against all logic.  My only comfort is that many people agreed on his page, that what he was doing, linking this to Sarah Palin and tea party was wrong, and nuts.

Still, after seeing some of the news outlets out there, try to pin this on Sarah Palin, I wonder, don’t they think about the violence they could be enciting against her.  They must not worry about a nutjob attacking her for their own vitriol and putting a target on her.

I saw someone write something very compelling earlier on a different page – Jodie Foster is not to blame for Reagan’s shooting, and neither is Sarah Palin for what happened yesterday.

It is a tragic event that has place no place to go.
The Political body is being waterboarded with the lies of those who would believe what feels emotionally appealing.

Palin had nothing to do with this. Sick shit.

“..violence-tinged rhetoric and imagery that Palin and the Tea Party have been engaged in for the last 2 years straight,” 

People have cited numerous examples of ‘violence-tinged’ rhetoric that Obama has spewed, and there are literally volumes of violent rhetoric that has issued from leftists like Olbermann, Grayson, Alec Baldwin, comedians wishing that Palin would be raped, etc. Why don’t you educate us with an equally impressive list of ‘violence-tinged’ rhetoric that Palin has spoken? It shouldn’t be difficult if it’s as bad as you claim it to be.

According to a report I just heard on FOX (Megyn Kelly’s show), there was a letter from Giffords in Loughner’s safe thanking hjm for attending one of her Congress on the Corner events back in 2007. There was also a handwritten note from him saying that he planned ahead; assassination and Gifford. He was apparently fixated on her for a period of time long before Palin or the Tea Party came on the scene. One can only hope that the left-wingers will come to their senses about this based on this new information.

 ”Why don’t you educate us with an equally impressive list of ‘violence-tinged’ rhetoric that Palin has spoken?”

I’ll let Congresswoman Giffords herself respond to that:

“They really need to realize that the rhetoric and firing people up, and, you know, even things for example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. When people do that, you gotta realize there’s consequences to that action.”
 And I find it interesting that you state there are “literally volumes of violent rhetoric that has issued from leftists like Olbermann, Grayson, Alec Baldwin”, etc., and demand from me an “equally impressive list”, yet you did not even offer one single quote from any of those individuals.  Let’s see the violent rhetoric from those people.  Let’s see the quotes.

Here are some from the right side of the aisle.  I’m not even going to bother with right-wing “entertainers”–I’m just sticking to elected officials and candidates for elected office.  You know, people who are supposed to be above this sort of thing:

“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us ‘having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,’ and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country.”
–Michele Bachmann

“Don’t retreat. Instead — reload!”
–Sarah Palin

“I hope that’s not where we’re going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”
–Sharon Angle

”Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don’t think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms.”
—Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden

If Palin and all those US congress women have some conscience, they should fight for the American women and not demean them.

If they knew American women were to be comfort women, perhaps they would take their jobs seriously!

I’m ignorant?

Good God, could we please stop blaming women for everything!!!

A woman, a young girl, a man, and many others are gunned down by a young psychotic. This is not the result of language, or political campaigns, it’s the guy with the gun who is responsible.

America is in deep trouble. Yesterday, NPR, and several other news agencies reported that Giffords had been assassinated. This was then tweeted and spread with accusations against Palin. All while Giffords was in surgery and fighting for her life. Rumor and accusation and lies are the basis for Americans to make decisions now.

In the old days, reporters were required to get confirmation, of a reported “fact,” from two reliable and independent sources. If reporters were following that ethical rule, we would not be in this inflammatory and unhelpful state.

My post is to Jackie the incitor!

Hitler believed the homeland had the right to invade any country it felt threatened by. The same belief that Cheney/bush believed in.

PO, you are such a silly bot. Take your hasty generalizations and shove them.

Give an example.

“Hitler was a nationalist socialist and a corporatist fascist… but above all he was a slick salesman who could give commanding speeches. Doesn’t remind me of anybody on the right currently.”

Right.  Good public speaker = Hitler.

Palin 2012!

Breaking: Democrats Plotted to Blame Tea Party for Slaughter

Don’t ever let a horrible slaughter at a supermarket go to waste.
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A rescue helicopter lifts off as first responders evacuate victims from a “Congress on Your Corner” event in Tucson, Arizona, where U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) among others were shot and seriously wounded. (Reuters)
Democrats plotted to blame the tea party patriots for yesterday’s slaugher in Arizona.
A democratic operative admitted this to The Politico.
Of course, Politico buried it in their story.
One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.
“They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers,” said the Democrat. “Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.”
Another Democratic strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both “take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats.”
This Democrat said that the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Fox News commentator Glenn Beck says something incendiary.
The shooter was a pro-Marxist, anti-flag, anti-Constitution, anti-religious crackpot.
He was hardly a tea partier.

So… Is this why DHS is going after a hate group that just happens to have Gadsden Flags ads on their website?… And, the media is trying to link the pro-Marxist lunatic to the tea party?
Related… Journalists urged caution after Ft. Hood, now race to blame Palin after Arizona shootings.

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2011/01/09/breaking-democrats-plotted-to-blame-tea-party-for-slaughter/

Donjo, you insufferable moron, you took Armymom’s comment way out of contect–as troll like you are wont to do. What she is saying is that if the left is going to call out the Tea Party on this, the Tea party has a right to defend themselves. And I agree with that.

So much for your foolish bullshit.

“ Olbermann, Grayson, Alec Baldwin”, etc., and demand from me an “equally impressive list”, yet you did not even offer one single quote from any of those individuals.  Let’s see the violent rhetoric from those people.  Let’s see the quotes.”  

Excuse me for for underestimating your political ignorance of such things. I’m sure that everyone else knows what I was referring to.

And your pathetic little list is nothing more than common metaphors, I often tell my soccer teammates to ‘re-load’ when I believe it’s best to back off and initiate a new attack. We aren’t planning on shooting anything but the ball at the goal. Our vernacular is filled with such metaphors, and when someone says, “We’re going to kill them at the polls”, nobody but the most delusional, paranoid, and sick victim wanna be, like you, would imagine that it is a homicidal threat.

However, when Baldwin encourage an angry mob to storm Washington D.C. and kill not only Henry Hyde and the other impeachment congressmen, but their families as well, and when comedian Sandra Bernhard calls for her ‘homies’ to gang rape Sarah Palin, it’s difficult for me to imagine these to be metaphorical references. And Olbermann daily ‘paints a target’ on people with his ‘worst person it the world’ nonsense. 

Face it Jackie, vicious leftists are passed masters at blatant and veiled threats, malicious rhetoric, inflammatory and incendiary oratory, and contemptible insults regarding their ideological opposites. Although it may seem that there’s a similar amount of charged rhetoric flying in both directions, I think public impression is overwhelmingly skewed toward believing that the right are greater offenders, simply because the left is far more vocal with their protestations when they feel they’ve been attacked. When a leftist accuses someone on the right of being a baby killer, big deal, move on. But if someone on the right calls a leftist unpatriotic, we never hear the end of it. Dog bites man, not news; man bites dog, it’s a headline.

Someone should take Hillary into a back room and only he come out!
Keith Olberman

Oops I guess you thought we had forgotten that one!

Who then supported Obama?  The far left or Wall Street.

This reminds me of the Civil Rights Era. Yes, I lived through it. 

But America was a different place then. People used to place the blame on the people using the hoses, the attack dogs, and wielding the guns. The people arresting the Civil Rights workers. Thus despite the incendiary rhetoric from Southern Democrats.

Some of these people specifically and pubicly advocated the physical harm and death of specific human beings.

They used words like kill, maim, harm.  There are several political advertisements I’ve seen with politicians from both sides of the aisle actually holding firearms.  Sorry to say but some them were people whom identified themselves as Democrats and Liberals.  Should they be held responsible for shootings done by those of the same political stripe?

This is beyond the pale.  People, Democrats included, have run political showing a circle with a line through it on the faces of their opponents.  Guess that means they wanted them dead.  If a person with a history of mental illness had killed them it would have been their fault right?

We all know the bloody history of the Civil Rights era and the leaders were all Democrats.  MLK Jr. was a Republican.  Where’s your outrage now?

 
Ana,  
 
Did it ever occur to you that what they are aiming at is utter chaos and  
violence?  And this is the way they do it, they have been trying for a
long time now.
 
MARTIAL LAW would then be declared and I think you know what that  
would mean…..

Palin is the only true Antidote to Obama.  Palin 2012!  She will win the nomination and the 2012 election.  

That would not be a wise move, I think anyways.  I think it will just make things worse not better.  Just like I think, that as more comes out about the gunman, more independents like myself, move away from the Left and the Democratic party.

There were a few leftist we saw on facebook spewing the blame palin and the teaparty line and it didn’t work.  Most people, some democrats and indepents, took these people off their page for what they were posting and some ended up walking back what they were posting about Palin and the Teaparty.

Though, of course, I think jj is right on.

“Excuse me for for underestimating your political ignorance of such things. I’m sure that everyone else knows what I was referring to.”

So, not a single, solitary quote from you.  Just a bunch of empty assertions.  The fact that on your second try, you’re still not providing actual quotes, and that even the people you are referencing (Alec Baldwin, Sandra Bernhard) are not even politicians (one is an actor, the other is a frigging performance artist), is extremely telling.

“And your pathetic little list is nothing more than common metaphors, I often tell my soccer teammates to ‘re-load’ when I believe it’s best to back off and initiate a new attack. We aren’t planning on shooting anything but the ball at the goal. Our vernacular is filled with such metaphors, and when someone says, “We’re going to kill them at the polls”, nobody but the most delusional, paranoid, and sick victim wanna be, like you, would imagine that it is a homicidal threat.”

What about Angle’s encouragement of “2nd Amendment remedies”?  What about Broden’s assertion that “violence” is “on the table”?  You have nothing to say to those statements?

“Someone should take Hillary into a back room and only he come out!  
Keith Olberman  
 
Oops I guess you thought we had forgotten that one!”

Yes, and he has apologized for that horrible statement several times.  Funny: on the right no apologies are offered, the offenders double down on their statements, and the like of you defend them.

Thank you. There is intelligence at noquarterusa.

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FROM THE COMMENTS
(Feel free to spread it far and wide)

Posted by: flatwater

“I am thinking to myself in other countries they are laughing at us twenty four hours a day, and I’m thinking to myself, if we were in other countries, we would all, right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No, shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their WIVES and their CHILDREN. We would kill their FAMILIES.”

Alec Baldwin on the Conan O’Brien Show, inciting the murder of Henry Hyde, his family, and all Congressional Republicans….

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Posted by: flatwater

Remember Chris Matthews fantasizing on air about seeing Rush Limbaugh shot in the head?

I do.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/13/video-matthews-muses-on-killing-rush-limbaugh/

I also remember….

The Craig Kilborn Show superimposing the words “Snipers Wanted” over the face of President George W. Bush.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/kilborn-cbs-target-bush-0

Nobel “Peace Prize” winner Betty Williams publicly stating her desire to murder President George W. Bush.

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/25/give-murder-a-chance/

British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch making a 2006 movie fantasizing about assassinating President George W. Bush.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

Alec Baldwin urging the murder of Henry Hyde, his family, and ALL Congressional Republicans and their families on national television…..

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5991332/alec_baldwin_for_congress.html?cat=9

David Guy McKay and Bradley Neil Crowder, two America-hating left-wing terrorists, were arrested by the FBI after conspiring to firebomb Republicans at the 2008 GOP Convention in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The American Media refused to report the story.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-194812.html

NPR commentator and ABC News reporter Nina Totenberg wishes death by AIDS on Senator Jesse Helms and/or his grandchildren.

http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/dishonor1999/welcomeaward6.asp

Julianne Malveaux publicly wishes death on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

http://www.holeinthehull.com/2010/07/julianne-malveaux-wishes-clarence-thomas-dead.html

Doesn’t look like That One can lead by example.

You do know that palin is a quitter. Don’t you?

Jeb Bush was governor for 8 years and is way more qualified to be Preisident than palin.

well alrightie for you….great work on the research.

MLK jr. was not a republican.

Glad you recognize it, that’s the first step in getting help.

What would be great is if those who are too ignorant to know what she meant, would just grow the hell up. You’re like those ones who want to get rid of the words “black hole” because it somehow denigrates blacks. Freaking ridiculous.

“This lady was one Democrat that the majority of the Republicans and Independents felt truly stood the ground they wanted.  
Maybe the Tea Party was not totally behind her, but she was at least one Democrat that supported their ideals more than any other representative.  
If any right wing were to try and hurt the Democrats, it surely would not be such a conservative Democrat.”

Gabrielle Giffords voted for the Affordable Care Act.  I’m not sure she really fits the mold you describe.

And she accomplished more in her first 2 years than most do in 8. That’s being a woman for you, doing twice the work in a shorter period of time with greater accomplishments. We certainly don’t need another Bush or Mittens and his “Obamacare”.

Yawn, flag, swat.

Yes. he was.

he’s busy parting the red sea.

donjo, I take it from your comment you have realized the shooter was far left liberal.  thanks for sharing.

It’s as if “quitter” is some defacto description to you. I know a great deal about Sarah Palin…the decisions she’s made and the actions she’s taken. Leaving her role as Govenor of Alaska is one of the decisions she made based on the fact that she thought the people of Alaska would be better served if she stepped down.

I wish Obama would realize that he’s not serving America as a leader and that he would step down. I wouldn’t think less of him, I’d admire him more…as I do Palin.

You are such a dumbfuck. Invading Iraq cannot be considered in the same vein as invading Ppoland you abject moron.

You are such a dumbfuck,jj. Invading Iraq cannot be considered in the same vein as invading Poland you abject moron. Germany under Hitler was intent on invading and staying, making Poland permanently part of the motherland–you know–the Third Reich. Your comparison is lame

LOL…armymom, I’d forgotten about the outrage over “black hole.” Oh, my god, you just made me laugh. Thanks…I needed that.

“Obama was quoting Sean Connery from “The Untouchables”.”

Oh goody! Are you saying that public figures can say anything they want, even statements like “If history has taught us anything, it’s that any man can be killed.” Michael Corleon–The Godfather II, just as long as it’s a quote from a movie? Brilliant idea Jackie!

Sorry, but simply citing where the quote came from (yes, I know it was from The Untouchables) doesn’t adequately address the mal intent of the statement, the way I challenged you to do, you lose. Are you always so dull witted, or are you just getting an early start on the drugs and alcohol?

I agree, Kinthenorthwest…she disagreed with the lawsuit against AZ, and wanted Obama to do more to protect the border, plus she’s just a strong woman which Obama doesn’t take to very well.

She won in a majority republican district, in an election when Obama and his policies were shellacked. That’s a true sign that she’s a blue-dog centrist democrat.

Well Palin was quoting Obama’s campaign when she targeted certain districts.

Riiiiiiigggghhhttttt….what we need is more tax cuts, larger ….

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No PO’Butt. But what we do need is far less government and government employees. As a matter of fact we could lose a few departments and not notice a difference in service because they provide none now. I don’t like money being rifled from my left pocket by you and your mouth-breathing ilk or my right pocket by neocons.

Furthermore, you delusional dickweed, if you want to give to the world’s largest charity, the US government, by all means please do so. Just don’t expect any of the rest of us to go along with it without a serious disagreement. We don’t work for you or the government.

Kinda tough to BS when you yourself have already told the truth. 
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How’s life in the pumpkin patch, PO Butt? Did you ever find that Great Pumpkin you promised your daughter or did you disappoint her, too? Do go back to your field of nightmares, goob.

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FROM HILLBUZZ:

“…..here’s a comment that was posted on the Hill website. It’s since been removed:

“The Tucson Tea Party will be made to pay for the blood on their hands. An eye

for an eye. You want a civil war, you got one. KILL Jesse Kelly for his role, then

KILL Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Gleen Beck. Whoever puts

BULLETS in ther HEADS shall be a NATIONAL HERO.”

MsUnderestimated got the screen cap:

http://www.msunderestimated.com/2011/01/lefties-respond-to-az-shootings-kill-jesse-kelly-sarah-palin-rush-limbaugh-glenn-beck/

So… to Rep. Grijalva, who said the following:

“She — as I mentioned, people contributing to this toxic climate — Ms. Palin needs to look at her own behavior, and if she wants to help the public discourse, the best thing she could do is to keep quiet.”

…I say this…

Before removing the non-existent speck from Palin and the tea party’s eye, perhaps you and the left should focus on removing the beam from yours.
If you’re really interested in the supposed toxic environment, sir, you’ll encourage the media and the left BIRM to cease and desist the completely irresponsible pinning of this mass murder on parties that are in NO WAY responsible for what happened.”

And who was the Jourolister woman who said she’d like to see Rush Limbaugh having a heart attack?

Well Rahm said, don’t waste a crisis. It’s pretty low that while people died, some are in the hospital, that all the left can do is blame people. They should be concerned about what happened and get on their knees and pray for their recovery. So much hatred from the left, which is one of the reasons I left the party 2 years ago.

What I find quite interesting is that the bots smell political blood in the water by blaming the Tea Party for the nightmare in Tucson and pointing fingers.

What these fools don’t understands is that political blood they smell is their own.

While I agree with all your points exonerating Palin, I still think there is nothing good about making allusions to violence.  Too many politicians use the tactic as pandering to popular sentiment when they should be ramping down the rhetoric.

“Sorry, but simply citing where the quote came from (yes, I know it was from The Untouchables) doesn’t adequately address the mal intent of the statement, the way I challenged you to do, you lose. “

Ok, then if we’re talking about the “intent of the statement”, let’s actually look at the intent of the statement.  Notice that the line is not “if they bring a set of talking points, we bring a gun”, or, “if someone is a conservative, bring a gun” to deal with them, or “if they disagree with us, we bring a gun”.  No. 

No, it is “if they bring a knife, we bring a gun”.  Meaning, if someone is coming at you with a knife intending to do you physical harm, be prepared to not only defend yourself, but to defeat them in the process of defending yourself.  Obama wasn’t advocating violence of any kind.  He was simply telling his supporters (it was a speech to supporters) to gear up for a nasty fight, because the opposition wasn’t going to play nice with them.

“Are you always so dull witted, or are you just getting an early start on the drugs and alcohol?”

You’re acting very rudely.  I haven’t come at you with language like that.  Calm down.

And, “don’t look for any organized political philosophy”.  
 
Yeah, carol, it wasn’t about “vitriol” at all. Sorry, lefties, but he’s one of yours.

Noogan, let’s hope all this backfires and comes right back at them.

E-mails sent by a classmate of Jared Loughner prior to Saturday’s mass shooting in Tucson depict Loughner as potentially violent. “Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon,” the student wrote June 1, 2010, which was the first day of class. Subsequent e-mails raised similar concerns about the alleged shooter.

http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/SFBD1U/3OVGXC/UTEHBO/0YRRPV/MOATG/6C/h

Here
In a post to the list-serv Journolist, an online meeting place for liberal journalists, Spitz wrote that she would “Laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out” as Limbaugh writhed in torment.
In boasting that she would gleefully watch a man die in front of her eyes, Spitz seemed to shock even herself. “I never knew I had this much hate in me,” she wrote. “But he deserves it.”

Ha, yeah. I don’t have much faith in Mueller, though…

How sad it all is…

People have been murdered by a nut case, and there’s a frenzy of hate going on among people trying to exploit it all. 

Me? I’m getting ready for a major snow storm headed my way, and thanking God for the blessings that we’ve gotten for a horse we love who almost died this past week. She didn’t die; and we are counting our blessings for it. 

I’ll go one step further, seattlegonz. “Vitriol” does not cause violence. It is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. It is akin to saying one has no control over their decision-making process when confronted with such language and that the language is the causal force. That this is patently false and also f-ing irrelevant doesn’t occur to the pick-up-the-turd-by-the-clean-end PC democrats/lefties.

I will call a spade a shovel, a farm implement, and a tool.

But targeting for defeat moderate, centrist Congresspeople known for their numerous public outreach meetings and ability to work across the aisle on the basis of one or two votes is just as short sighted and destructive IMO.
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So what? I mean so fucking what? There is no excuse for violence irrespective of the reason. That being said, there is neither an excuse to fetter free speech. I will “target” as in work against, work to unseat, or work to remove any “moderate” who votes for unconstitutional crap. I will target as I see fit. Get it?

rarely and even more rarely kill. Tim McVeigh thought government was taking over his life. It’s a victim rhetoric that appeals to those who feel persecuted. I think liberal policies are a little too friendly to attract many killers.  Pro-abortion activists don’t kill doctors who refuse to perform abortions. Pro immigration activists don’t kill those who want to limit immigration. Pro-government activists don’t kill those for limited government.  Those in favor of civil rights don’t target and murder members of racist organizations.  

How else to explain how quickly this was blamed on Palin?  They didn’t know ANYTHING abt this guy at the beginning, but from the beginning, they blamed it on Palin and her map.  It was ludicrous. 

What is more ludicrous are all of the liberals, including MoveOn.org , who bought into this premise from the get-go.  Yes, MoveOn is now saying we need to dial back the incendiary rhetoric (oh, sorry – I should have warned you abt that in case you were drinking anything at the time).  Spare me. 

They knew NOTHING abt Loughner then, but they do now, and he does not exactly sound like a Palin follower.  Yet, the rhetoric continues, acting like Palin had anything to do with this.  Wow.

Palin is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t.  She left her position because Democrats were harassing her with frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit.  They were costing the state of Alaska MILLIONS of dollars, and tons of staff hours.  Had she STAYED, they would have claimed she was wasting the state’s money and resources, that she couldn’t do her job, blah, blah, blah.

Since she said she would not put the state through that, and could not do the work of the state having to deal with these petty lawsuits brought by Democratic operatives, she is now called a quitter. 

The hypocrisy is staggering.

DailyKos targeted Giffords in 2008 – why isn’t anyone blaming HIM?  I think we know why…

Welcome back, Ana – good to *see* you again.

I am sorry, though, that you had that experience on Facebook.  Unfortunately, that seems to be par for the course these days…

Interesting point abt Foster, too.  Thanks for that!

Oh those rascally liberals, always up to their little tricks, preaching peace, love, dove and ecology, so that you’ll turn your soon to be knifed back toward them. What fun. Flower Children by day, bomb throwers by night. They make Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn sooooo proud.

I have to go now, a long haired, flea bitten type just came by my house soliciting for Greenpeace, and I sent him away empty handed. Guess I’ll be spending the rest of my evening making sure my car isn’t keyed or it’s tires slashed. Perhaps I should have invited him in for a nice steaming bowl of whale blubber. Oh well, another missed opportunity.

MLK jr. was not a republican.  
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Flagged for being a provocative lie.

Tim McVeigh is the same old shit you folks trot out whenever anything happens. McVeigh was pissed that Clinton and his ilk steamrolled over a compound and innocent children were killed. All because the government didn’t want them having weapons. He was sick as so is this individual that targeted this congresswoman. But to blame Palin or the right is dillusional, period. Grow the fuck up. We’re sick of the shit that these “communists” try to shove down everyone’s throat. It’s the reason I’m not a democrat any more, nor would I ever vote for one again. Government IS NOT the answer to everything, that is unless you like sitting on your ass and being taken care of with other people’s money.

I wait in breathless anticipation for Miss Jackie to explain away all of these with the same eloquence she failed to produce when explaining Obama’s gun vs knife reference, ha ha ha. Is she FUBAR, or what? I’ve thrown five bags of Orville Redenbachers Ultra Theater Butter in the microwave for the event. Although, I’ve had to move my computer to a position where I can watch my imperiled car at the same time. Aren’t the activities of liberals interesting, albeit inexplicable, to watch? 

Not at all, Katmoon.  I understand completely…

Right on Rev Amy-It is being done with the purpose to squash the enemy, because the “enemy” won in November. Another example of a very incidious thing being done. The heroes of this tragedy are being discussed and for some reason in the discussion it is necessary to say someone is of this race or this orientation; that isn’t very subtle, that is about as friggin racist, sexist and nasty as you can get. One who supports other human beings and celebrates them does not have to detail it up for the media, a hero is a hero, by saying someone is Mexican or saying they are gay and a Hero is just as bad as saying, Why one of my best friends is ________________(fill in the blank). Claiming a hero as part of a specific group is because whomever is doing the writing, reporting or gathering of information is unsure of their own belief about such a person, and is trying to incorporate them as “normal” to meet their personal definition, while at the same time ignoring that the real audience more than likely could care less, and would not box a hero into such a small area; I don’t think of where or how old, or preferences, I think, wow, courage, cool.
Really watch for these subtle and nasty little defining marks being passed off as human interest, it is part of the problem of division of Americans.  

 I ask a simple, reasonable question
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That wasn’t what you asked you buffoon. Keep up here, pinhead.

What you said was, “Riiiiiiigggghhhttttt….what we need is more tax cuts, larger budget deficits, more deregulation of corporations (meaning Wall Street) so they can steal another trillion or so in middle-class money by making another generation of derivatives bets that require bailing out when they go bad. Or next time we won’t bail them out, huh? And instead let the entire international banking system collapse. ”

Is it because you are on drugs that you forgot this comment? You are the shallow and callow one who needs to spend his own money on suporting this bloated government and not expect or demand that the rest of us do the same. I want far less government. If that means you don’t work, find yourself a real job. I’m not here to support your shiftless kind.

This is just a small potato and distraction!

America is in deep shit economically and yet we have politicians looking for wars internationally.

Americans must wake up and stay focus on issues that affect millions of Americans at home and boot all those warmongers out from US Congress & White House!

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Why did people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson use words like “hymey town”, or faked the Tawana Brawley debacle? Those “violent metaphor” that you refer to aren’t “violent” in nature. Do you mean that when sports teams, democrats, marketing dept use the term “crosshairs” or “targeted” that they mean violence or death? Grow the hell up. Most people, or shall I say, normal, clear thinking people don’t believe one minute that the “crosshairs” map was inciteful. BTW, seems there was a letter in his safe from this congresswoman from 2007, way before Palin and the map. I’ll be curious what comes out of this.

“Ha Ha Ha HA!! As I predicted, a disingenuous, dissembling, contorted, and desperate attempt at liberal loony-spin. “Honestly teacher, our pet Komodo Dragon ate my homework!” You lose again! But please, keep trying, I’m sure that as you get increasingly intoxicated, your non sequitur remarks will become much more entertaining.”

Try an actual response next time.  It will help with your personal development.

I find it interesting that it was “hours” before it was reported he was “white”.  Seems like the delay of information gave everyone the time needed to make their sinister comments about the “right winger radicals” and “Sarah Palin”.

Hummmmmmmmm ………………..

>:o

You are an often in-your-cups commenter, jackie, although I still think that you are more of a dullard than a sot.

Keith Oblerman has lots of nerves for saying Sarah has blood on her hand. Wasn’t it him who said on TV that he wanted to take Hillary into a room and punch the crap out of her? So it’s ok for him to say that, but Sarah saying “target” is so bad? What’s the Target chain stores to do? If Sarah shops at Target, which she probably does, is that going to be another excuse to blame her for something too?

Hewre is a DIY for now.

What leaders are you talking about Anna Shane? People like Obama who said, “if they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun?!” 

No, you’re “sick” if you agree with Keith Olbermann, jj. It’s got nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with me. Keith Olbermann is a very sick man who should not be in any position of influence at MSNBC. His spew is vile. His language is filled with hate and vitriol. He’s a dangerous demogogue. 

The “us against them” mentality is coming from Barack Obama–who calls Republicans “our enemies” remember? Keith Olbermann is just a sick egomaniac who is exploiting political differences for his own aggrandizement. But Olbermann’s one sick puppy. And, if you agree with him, so are you. 

Perverse?

Primeobot….your arrogance is only surpassed by your ignorance. 

“Say What You Will….It Feels So Good”

It is a measure of how much the Obots and republican establishment fear Palin; that they would zero in on her even before she has declared herself a candidate. SHE TERRIFIES THEM.  

I believe, as others have stated, that the democratic party establishment and republican party establishment are one and the same.  They foist their candidate on the people based on what they perceive as the mood of the country; so their agenda is un-interupted.  

Palin is of the people.  She, like the Tea Party, represents a genuine people’s peaceful uprising.  The people feel they have found a champion.  She’s not going to end up like Joan of Arc–she is SARAH PALIN.  She is a prairie fire that will be almost impossible to stop.