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Joe the Plumber Outs Barack the Socialist

The essence of socialism is the notion that there is no sacred right inherent in personal property. Instead, the State has the ultimate right to one’s property. Barack Obama made that very clear to Joe the Plumber in the now infamous exchange:

So Barack wants the right to determine who makes too much money so that he, as head of the Government, can spread the wealth around. The irony in this election is profound. For starters, George W. Bush will leave office having trashed the Republican legacy of opposing socialism, by endorsing the largest Federal takeover of private corporations in the history of our nation. What is truly troubling is that so many Americans seem unfazed by this.

We already have seen the Bush Administration erode, without so much as a blink of the eye or a qualm of conscience, the Geneva Convention and habeus corpus. We cannot blame Democrats or socialists for those developments. And Republicans only have themselves to blame for allowing their fear of terrorism to blind them to the fundamental principle that there ought to be limits on the power of government. There was a time in this country where the rights of the individual–i.e., a person’s life as the ultimate expression of personal property–was considered a sacred right. [Note, I am fully aware of irony and hypocrisy of our founders, who proclaimed the sacred rights of the individual while allowing slavery and the violations of the rights of African Americans. The failure of the founders to be consistent in upholding those principles does not invalidate those concepts.] The essence of the traditional battle between liberals and conservatives is that liberals believe people are inherently good and that government should be fully empowered to promote that good. Traditional conservatives believe that people will generally do terrible things to one another if only given the chance and opted for a form of government based on limiting the power of any one branch. Classical, traditional conservatives frigging hate kings and princes. We tend to be an unruly genuinely democratic lot not enamored of powerful central governments.

Which brings me back to Joe the Plumber and the frantic campaign of the Barack Obama’s hordes to destroy him. Joe outed Barack for the socialist he is. I do not use that term loosely. Let’s start with the fact that Barack was raised in a family–his mother and grand parents–who had ties to persons and groups connected to the communist party of America. Barack’s childhood mentor, Franklin Davis, another one closely tied to the communist party.

I recognize in raising these ties that I sound like something out of the Army McCarthy hearings of the 1950s. But in this case we have a Presidential candidate with solid, indisputable family and personal ties to communist organizations. But it does not stop there. When we add in the William Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Michael Pfleger, Jeremiah Wright, and ACORN, we are brought back to radical left individuals who believe in the fundamental right of the State to control the economy and denounce capitalism.

Then we discover that Barack was a member of the New Party, a socialist group in Chicago. Here is a picture of Barack with fellow New Party members.
obama-new-party.jpg

But it is not just the picture, as Matt Weaver, Bud White and I have noted in earlier articles, the New Party required folks it endorsed to sign a contract. They endorsed Barack. And here is an article casually noting the electoral success of “new party member” Barack Obama:

New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George’s County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.

Sometime in the last 12 years Barack decided to distance himself from the overt ties to some of his socialist buddies. But the instinct did not leave him. When confronted with the hypothetical of raising taxes on a small business owner (someone who was grossing at least $250,000 dollars) Barack simply noted his fundamental world view–it is the right of the state to take the private property of its citizens and spread it around.

Ironically, George W. Bush has paved the way for Barack’s vision. The U.S. Federal Government is now the proud owner of several formerly private banking enterprises. Now it looks like Barack wants to go after the small businesses. If you doubt the seriousness of these people in their pursuit of their ideologically pure vision of world peace and economic justice, simply take note of vitriol directed at Joe the Plumber. Today it is Joe. Tomorrow you?

  • KXT

    President Bush cannot spend a dime unless Congress approves it.

    It took just under 2 years of a Democrat majorty Congress to plunge the stock. Imagine what the market will do when Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama are in power.

    ARe you better off than you were 2 years ago?

    Remember when the DEMS controled Congress for the first 2 years of Bill CLinton Term ,there was no growth. The next 6 years of Bill Clinton reign when the republicans were in control of Congress, there was huge economic growth.

    Do not let Obama take your money and give it to people who do not pay taxes. As John Mccain said today, “hold on to you walledts,” Or Obama will leave nothign but change in it.

    Save the democratic Party from the far, left and anti-American radical liberals.

    There are still a few good bleeding heart liberals who care about America and centrist democrats who care about core values and fiscal issues.

    • johninca

      It took just under 2 years of a Democrat majorty Congress to plunge the stock. Imagine what the market will do when Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama are in power.

      Excellent point, which McCain should have been making in the debates. Taxpayers will be incredibly vulnerable if Democrats get close to the magic filibuster proof number.

    • lark

      All those correlations and all the other correlations pertaining to how the Bush Administration weakened the roots and attachments we had for truth, honesty and confidence in our government have to be digested and filtered until the pure extract of intentions come forth.

  • Cat in NJ

    We will know more about Joe the Plumber in the next week than:

    The Obama/Ayers relationship

    CAC

    Obama’s NYC years

    Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth

    Obama’s State Senate Record
    
Obama’s Transcripts and school history

    Obama’s Pakistan trip at a time when American’s were forbidden to travel there
Obama’s New Party linkages
 … and the list goes on and on.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/joe-the-plumber.html

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      I can’t wait for the rumors of Joe The Plumber Internet Sex Tape, and the Joe the Plummer is not the biological father of his child rumor.

      It’s Inevitable…

      Meanwhile, my good freind Bill the gingerbread house maker Ayers is just a misunderstood freedom fighter who wanted the kids to get a better education…

      • lark

        Great one.

      • Dawnelle

        That’s not the JOE I Used to know!

  • http://elect2009.wordpress.com OMGIAMGOINGNUTS – Cindie

    Off Topic:
    http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/10/16/obamas-farrakhan-problem
    I URGE YOU ALL TO READ THIS!
    Farrakhan AND obama connection!!!!

    • SnarlingCur

      Good Read.

  • candymarl

    Somewhat OT: But I checked the polling in my state and found a startling development. Daily Kos polls are being used as part of scientific polling.

    That actually made me feel better. Because if partisan polls from websites as Kos are being figured into Obama’s “lead” then maybe things are not so bleak.

    Obama is also running ads showing his concern for elderly white people and white middle class voters. But I thought they, like Joe the Plumber, are racist.

    So Obama is running ads saying he loves white voters while mocking people like Joe.

    I gotta give it to them. This is the best double speak and marketing campaign I’ve seen in a long while. Funny, Obama supporters still don’t see the contradictions here.

    • Kal

      Also OT: On Oct. 14, Gallup fessed up that on its ‘likely voters-traditional’ measure, BO and MC were just 47-45% on that date, and that on this fancy new measure ‘likely voters-expanded’ [expanded to reflect alleged new increases in total numbers of democrats vs repubs in the US] they were 51-45%.

      And then they turn and and keep using ‘registered voters’ as the pool for the rest of this week, which produces an even bigger spread (7%).

      So read this stuff carefully, and it sounds to me like this race is still very very tight, at least in terms on national numbers; I haven’t seen anything on battleground states lately.

      • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

        Gallup has become a disgrace…in fact, all the polling cos. that use “registered” voters and “likely voters” interchangealy are screwing around. A few weeks ago, I actually saw a poll that used both registered and likely voters combined into one sample!

        I worked at Gallup before it became part a big business based in Nebraska…Political polling is just a small bit of what they are doing…

        Musings on Pollsters: Confessions of a Former Gallup Study Director…(Updated 1X)

        http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/musings-on-pollsters-confessions-of-a-former-gallup-study-director/

        I was interviewed about this awhile back on Sirius’ “Blog Bunker” show…

        • Kal

          So, GRL, thank you for posting that reference. This is amazing. We can conclude, then, that the msm has agreed not out the marketing functions of the supposedly ‘objective’ pollsters — leaving us with what? Who is studying the pollsters? Is there a discount factor for each of them? Or do they blur everything so much you can’t untangle it? I was amazed at the marked underpolling re Hillary, but I couldn’t tell if it was the so-called Bradley effect or a weighting problem. Or a problem (like in exist polls) with people not wanting to disclose certain things.

          Any more ideas on this, going into the final stretch?

          • A Citizen

            The polls were claiming Obama was wildly popular while Hillary was defeating him badly in the primaries. Obama has bought the superdelegates, the media, and now the pollsters. Axelrod manipulates the public. Ignore the polls. Get on the phone to voters in swing states, and email them articles about Obama’s background. I have found, incredibly, that many voters either do not know or do not believe Obama is corrupt.

        • Susan1968

          InsightAnalytical-GRL –

          I went to you blog and read your linked article.

          Fascinating. Especially about the “Gallup Brain” & Gallup University.” Scary-fascinating, actually. I recommend everyone click your link and read it.

          I have a couple of questions:

          - Given your expertise and comment about the inaccuracy of polls sampling under 1000/1500 people, are any of the polls offered day by day accurate in this fierce political season?

          - Do you think it’s entirely possible that citizens who volunteer to take these polls are skewing the results in their desire to be helpful?

          - And is it possible that the bias of the pollsters themselves are greatly skewing polls as well? I.e. tone of voice influencing respondents, pollsters’ expectations, etc.?

    • Jules

      That actually made me feel better. Because if partisan polls from websites as Kos are being figured into Obama’s “lead” then maybe things are not so bleak.

      I’m not really sure where we could go to find a NON-partisan poll ;) I don’t think things are bleak. I think McCain’s going to kick ass in November.

  • johninca

    I basically agree with LCJ, whether you call it socialism, collectivism, or redistributionism.

    Government instead of protecting your property takes your money by force and gives it to somebody who doesn’t work. This is the very essence of perversity, not to say theft.

  • lark

    BREAKING

    Pelozi shows beyond reasonable doubt that she sabotaged the debate by proposing a 300 billion incentive package for consumers 2 days before the debate and tanking the dow industrials 450 points the day before. Two days after, today, she rescinds the idea.

    In the meanwhile the strategy for bringing Obama up cost more or less half a trillion dollars.

    Unreal.

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      The day the DOW went up 9?? I saw it replayed at high speed several times…I noticed something….PRESS RELEASE McCain….it went on up…PRESS RELEASE Pelosi….it went down then back up…

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      Meh toss that evil polotician infront of a moving unity bus at the first opportunity.

      Truly i find Pelosi to be one of the most partisan heinous hacks ever to trot her unqualifed botox loaded face into washington.

      • SnarlingCur

        Bush destroys the Republic party, in the exact same time period Polosi, Reid and Frank destroy the Democratic party. Effectively destroying everybody’s faith in either party.

        Way to go!

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

          Fair and Balanced Destruction.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Some Economic Hitmen, eh Jeremiah GDBW,esq. ?

    • Jules

      Pelosi is the DEVIL INCARNATE. I mean it. I can’t stand the sight of her. She turns my stomach. She has sold her soul.

      • Dan

        Totally agree. She’s so full of shit it’s a wonder it’s not dripping out of her ears.

      • Susan1968

        Seh’s sold her soul and had way too much Botox. Her face llooks like it’s from a wax museum.

        I’m starting to wonder if Boxtox affects brains.

        Joe Biden’s motionless forehead is a red flag for Botox. And lately he sounds more and more bonkers.

        • Jules

          You know, everyone I’ve talked to seems to notice his forehead. I can’t even get to his forehead because I’m so focused on his weird eyes. The corners have been pulled so far back that they look like slits. It is very obvious when he smiles.

  • http://deleted Aaron

    Bush paved the way for Barry to subvert our sovereignty and establish the New World Order under his leadership.

  • SJ

    I was thinking the same thing that Bush is paving the way for the Obama ideals of government control. The problem with some Americans is the fact that they have never lived in a country where the government has its hand in everything so they have no idea the dangers that lie with that.

    When we read people like Cheveaz laughing at as he say we are adopting his kind of rule we know we are in trouble, but most Americans seems to be oblivious to this or maybe they don’t care, whatever is going on I keep saying it over and over people need to be very concern things are not looking good for us if we keep on this path.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    Larry,

    You hit on the major reason I didn’t want that $700 billion thing to pass. I knew we were going to end up basically buying the banks thus it would play right in to Obama’s plans..

  • SnarlingCur
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      hahaha

      • 30yrdem-not any more

        I like this…..
        http://www.coalitionoftheswilling.net/archives/2008/10/as_i_enjoy_fome.html

        We all need to make one to where everywhere we go. I am!

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

          There were a bunch of protesters at an Obummer campaign stop today waving Plungers and signs saying “I am Joe the Plumber!”

          Barack Obama – Spread that Splainin around!

          • 30yrdem-not any more

            Really??? Wonderful!!!!

            • imustprotest

              Woowhooo love it!! Plumbers for McCain/Palin!

              • SensibleWomanNOTforBO

                I’ve decided to create an artistic version of a plunger to hang along with our beautiful flag in my house.

                Best yet? The one I currently have on hand (NO, won’t be hanging THAT one up) IS made in the USA.

              • QUEENIE

                hey ..put a plunger in the back window of your car..with a little sign ..I am Joe the Plumber ..are you????

  • Will Smith

    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

    After the RBC Fiasco, I decided that I would write-in Hillary’s name as a protest vote. But if you are planning to write in Hillary’s name in Florida, PLEASE DON’T DO IT. I called the Hillsborough County Board of Elections and a kind gentleman instructed me that any Write-In Candidate that requests to be counted by the Electoral College must submit paperwork before a specific date (which Hillary’s campaign did not do). He also said that any Hillary Clinton write-in vote will be counted as a Barack Obama vote because they belong to the same party. I urge all PUMA/Clinton Democrats to visit this link to find out your state’s write-in rules: http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.html and/or call your local elections board to find out what are the rules for write-in candidates. We cannot afford to give Barack Obama more votes just because we wanted to write-in Hillary’s name.

    • SnarlingCur

      Thanks for the info. All PUMAs need to know this.

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      We have been trying to tell people this for months, ever since Hillary dropped out and people started saying they would write her in, we told them it would go to Obama because he is on the ticket as a DEM.

      • RJ

        Amen 30yrdem-not any more. Maybe it’s starting to finally sink in that the ONE AND ONLY WAY America can keep BO from becoming president is to VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN.

        WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

        McCain/Palin ’08 Country First

    • Ted Kennedy’s Swim Coach

      Before the election, one of NQ’s writers should post all of the states where a write in for Hillary = a vote for the terrorist apologist.

    • ugo

      Good thing that you find that out.

      Please spreed this information.

  • Will Smith

    btw
    Laura Ingraham Bill O’Reilly Show Smearing Joe The Plumber.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=231T16kyJG0

    • SnarlingCur

      Thank you Will for posting,

      and, Thank You Laura Ingraham For Informing!!!

      :)

    • Kal

      And Laura calling Bill O’R for sliming over to BO.

      Must a been all the knee pokes. Yuck!!

    • Chicago

      the media investigated Joe the plumber’s tax liens and yet they “fail” to investigate and report that Obama’s campaign treasurer has bigger tax liens against him. google it and find out.

      more fascism from the Obama camp, and less fair and balanced reporting from the media.

    • fif

      Right on Laura! This is totally out of control. I wish someone would organize a full-on boycott of the MSM, especially NBC/MSNBC. Does anyone know anyone who can orchestrate this? Target sponsors with a national boycott–THAT will get their attention.

    • Susan1968

      Laura also did a nice job on Christopher Hutchins who’s suddenly an Obama supporter. She nailed old Christopher on his lack of logic considering how por-war Hutchins is.

      Hutchins says, “Obama is trainable.”

      Trainable? If he’s POTUS who’s going to train his arrogant butt?

      Jeeze — they’re accepting it now — on the job training.

    • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

      thanks for posting that!

      i can’t understand how any sane person can support the lunatic criminal Obama…

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

  • Patti

    Spread the wealth, and attacking a voter. This is deffinately not the guy I want for President. NO freaking way..

    I didnt want to vote for him in January, and in the last 10.5 months, he hasnt made me change my mind. He has a mockery of all the way I lead my life and how I brought/bringing up my sons. NOPE do not want him as President.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      Relax.

      Its not personal.

      You are just some guy who lives in his country.

    • McTampaBayacuda

      I’m guessing that the majority of us are middle class. We have been insulted beyond belief, they have called us white trash, uneducated rednecks.

      Obama continually makes the claim that he wants to help middle class America. Well Senator Obama, I for one was much better off before you decided to help me.

      Please go away and leave us alone. We don’t want your help!

  • chicagobluesgirl

    I don’t think Americans are unfazed; I do think people are very angry but it is out of our control and so many lies are told by so many that no one knows what to believe and no one knows what to do about it.

    We called all of our reps and senators and told them how we felt but what else can we do? I’ve contributed to McCain. I don’t agree with everything he does and I wish he would be more assertive but the alternative is too horrible to imagine. I’m putting out flyers and mailers for McCain through WAM08.org,my husband is going to help in Ohio.

    I just don’t know what else we can do.

  • McTampaBayacuda

    Americans have lost their way, God help us

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But,
    Under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,
    Until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

    - Norman Thomas (US Socialist Presidential Candidate)

    • lark

      Ah the glories of education sponsored and advocated by government. What do we call it now, “cooperative learning.”

    • John Smith

      Socialism comes with 10% to 12% unemployment and huge deficits.

  • Concerned Citizen X

    I agree that one of the essential features of socialism is the belief that private property does not exist or should be expunged, but the critical factor, in my view that reveals hidden Marxists like Barack Obama for what they are is the framing of social issues in terms of class struggle, or “us vs. them.” Marxists have always operated in a covert fashion, disguising their true intentions (this is not paranoia, this is actually the method that was espoused by communist states like the Soviet Union). But in America since the McCarthy era, which really only ended with the death of J. Edgar Hoover in the 70s, it has been necessary for socialists to hide behind other facades and to use their own supposed intra-group bickering (“we’re not socialists, they’re socialists (a la the Alinksyites or the New Party)” or “we’re the real communists, not the SDS (such as the PLP vs. SDS dispute) to pretend to not be Marxists. But the tell-tale sign in all cases whether you’re talking about actual open communist parties like CPUSA, or more hidden groups like Democratic Socialists, the New Party, or Alinksyite community organizing groups like Obama’s Developing Communities Project, Gamaliel Foundation, ACORN (and its associates like the SEIU union) is that they always talk about “us vs. them”, the “haves vs. the have-nots”, the “rich vs. the poor” and other similiar class warfare paradigms. Listen closely. If you hear anything like that you are talking about MARXISM. Make no mistake about it and accept no disavowals. We already knew Obama was a Marxist by his many, many Marxist associations (his New Party association alone was enough, let alone Ayers, Alinksy, ACORN) but when Joe the Plumber got him to open his big mouth and talk about spreading the weatlth, it was all over.

    • Bob

      The Democratic party is so far away from being socialists it is not funny.

      Clinton was more conservative than the Republican party.

      The Democrats are for tax cuts, government surpluses and responsible government.

      The Republican party is for big government, trampling on the constitution, running big deficits, and government bailouts for the big banks, auto sector and any other part of the economy that gets into trouble. They are the original authors of the stimulous package, remember that?

      If you are a conservative it makes much more sense to vote for the democratic party. The Republicans are washed up and focused on catering to their bases like the religious right, which have nothing to do with conservatism.

      As an economic conservative I do not recognize the Republican party any more. There is a significant lack of leadership and most in power are just hacks.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    “Today, we are ALL Georgians the Plumbers”

    • SnarlingCur

      “Ich bin ein Plumber”

      • TeakWoodKite

        :)

      • TeakWoodKite

        “Ich bin ein Klempner”.

        The irony in this election is profound.

        LJ, Freaky, isn’t? It’s like HBO’s “The Wire” on a galactic scale.

    • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

      -=chortle=-

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

  • bert

    Larry – you always do outstanding work, but this is the best and timeliest. I just wish someone in the McCain campaign or a 527 would do an ad on this topic. Or I wish the McCain campaign could buy 30 minutes of prime time like Obama has.

    This is why Ayres matters. He is one piece in the Marxist, socialist, communist jigsaw puzzle that is Barak Obama. And you have named most all of the other pieces. (Odingo is another.)

    America is at a very vulnerable time in its history. Not since the Civil War have we been in such danger. After years of extreme partisanship + 8 years of Bush’s rape on democracy + the current economic crisis + the Federal takeover of corporations and banks we are on the precipice of fascism. We are at the tipping point.

    And if Obama is elected I fear we will tip right over the precipice and usher in a fascist state.

    There are plenty of issues I do not agree with McCain or Palin. But one thing I know for sure, they will not knowingly, unknowingly, or purposely lead America into a Marxist socialist communist state. They will preserve the bedrock democratic principals upon which this country was founded. And I hope that McCain may even begin the long, arduous task of righting the wrongs of Bush and the neocons. I would be happy though if he just did no more harm to the republic and that 2012 will offer us even some thing better.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    OK, now this scares me,

    Farrakhan Says ‘New Beginning’ For Nation of Islam

    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/nation.of.islam.2.843209.html

    The Nation of Islam, a secretive movement generally closed to outsiders, has planned a rare open-to-the public event at its Chicago-based headquarters in what the Minister Louis Farrakhan deemed a “new beginning” for the group.

    Hundreds of religious leaders of different faiths have been invited to the event planned for Sunday, a rededication of the group’s historic Mosque Maryam on the city’s South Side. Farrakhan is scheduled to speak.

    [that is just a snip from the start]

    Are you all watching Greta? KEEP AYERS AWAY!

  • SJ

    This is what Chavez sad to say this time he is right, and we are in deep trouble people.

    He mocked Bush for using government funds to bail out private companies. The Bush administration is seeking congressional authority to buy as much as $700 billion in bad investments from financial firms to unfreeze the U.S. financial system.

    “I nationalize strategic companies and get criticized, but when Bush does it, it’s OK,” Chavez said on weekly television program Sept. 21. “Bush is turning socialist. How are you, comrade Bush?”

    • rw

      Chavez is such a buffoon, why doesn’t he just shut-up.

    • McHope

      Who cares what Chavez says?
      Bush isn’t running.
      There are two choices.
      One will continue the demoralization and degradation of our government.
      One will reform it.

  • Patrick Henry

    Maybe its all been Part of a Big Plan to Create the New World Order…Bush and Obamas Backers both seem to be thinking Gobalization…The radical Right Neo cons did thier thing…to set the stage..Creat the Massive debt..Carry Out Foreign Policys that would set the stage for the NEXT Move…and then create so Much national Resentment that the American public would want to counter by Bringing in he Democrats..
    for the next Phase..?

    That would be just as NEO LEFT EXTREMIST as the NEO CONS carried out thier Extremist Policys too…

    Why didn’t the Dems or Bush Administration STOP any of this..?? No Hearings…No regulations…No Preventive Actions…just like Prior to 9/11 even tho all the Intel people and Bush people knew or Suspected it was going to Happen soon..and How it was going to happen…

    We Know the Democrat party has been inflitrated by Extremists who no longer represent the Democrat Party we Once knew…

    So was the Bush administration..

    John Wayne McCain is NOT Geroge W. Bush…and he and Govenor Palin are Mavericks Indeed..More Like INDEPENDENTS….with Consertative Values and a real desire to to be Bi partisan and Solve Our Problems RESPONSIBLY….and I do Not Think either of Them have a NWO Agenda…Just whats best for America Objective..

    PLUMBERS and All…

    • 30yrdem-not any more

      McCain-Palin For America!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Millions of disaffected Hillary supporters + Repubs who don’t usually vote who are energized by Palin + many women of any stripe who are secretly thrilled with a woman running for VP + those with special needs children + men who think Sarah is one hot mama and will vote for her “behind the curtain” + true racists who would never vote for a person of color + patriots who don’t like what they see of the socialist nobama + many, many Christians + plus people who can’t stomach nobama’s voting against the bill that would give medical aid to a newborn who is the victim of a botched murder abortion + others who will have their eyes open in the last couple of weeks of the campaign = McCain/Palin ’08

    • McHope

      I like your math. :)

  • HARP

    Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim of Kenyan origins who studied in Islamic schools and whose campaign may have been financed by people in the Islamic and African worlds, Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi said during a recent televised national rally.

    “There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama,” said Gadhafi in little-noticed remarks he made at a rally marking the anniversary of the 1986 U.S. air raid on his country.

    The remarks, translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, MEMRI, were aired on Al Jazeera in June.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78309

    • kgirl1028

      they have better copy of it on you tube. been out since june and didn’t make a knick.

    • Bob

      blah, blah, blah….

  • yttik

    “Ironically, George W. Bush has paved the way for Barack’s vision”

    Some good truths in that post, Larry Johnson. Nice to know somebody else who recognizes the irony and how ridiculous and upside down this has all become. And frightening.

    In a final twist of irony, Joe the Plumber has been harassed right out of a job. Now see, instant tax break. Obama told you he’d lower your taxes, didn’t he?

    • John Smith

      I agree 100%. GW is responsible for this in a big way.

      • SnarlingCur

        I’m a Republican, I’m a conservative, I voted for Bush, and…………..I have to agree with you.

        • Dan

          So am I (a moderate conservative, anyway) and I also have to agree with you. George Bush’s final parting gift to his country may well be the nation’s first socialist government, thanks to the staggering incompetence displayed by him and his cohorts ovee the course of the past eight years.

          Thanks a lot, Dubya.

          • Jane the Plumber

            I’m a Democrat and Bush was not responsible, ACORN and the Democrats were responsible.

            last night Greta asked us to research Wade Rathke, who filed an amicus brief in the United States Supreme Court asking the Supreme Court to rule with the Secretary of the State Ohio Jennifer Brunner.

            Rathke, was the founder of ACORN and a member of the anti war group SDS. The Weather Underground was an offshoot of SDS.

            I was using google 2001 and came across this little gem. Twenty five years of ACORN. It is a long read but well worth it and it will make you want to scream.

            http://web.archive.org/web/20010612171320/www.acorn.org/history-content.html

            • TeakWoodKite

              Thanks Jane the Plumer, love gems.

    • lark

      The butterfly effect. People associated with Obama in any way shape or form get their reputations ruined one by one. Now at an increasing rate. One day you find the entire nation has been completely ruined.

    • Bob

      McCain was the one who chose to bring up Joe the plumber…

      • Chicago

        and Obama was the one who came to Joe’s neighborhood and talked to Joe in front of reporters.

        Joe asked a question and Obama gave an honest answer on what his principle really is.

        whether it’s McCain’s or Obama’s fault doesn’t give the mainstream media the right to attack joe or any other citizen for that matter. the media is supposed to be looking out for ALL CITIZENS and not gang up on them when one of them asks a candidate a question.

        when the media starts to protect one person (Obama) and attack a citizen that they are supposed to inform, it is the beginning of fascism. the media loves to say that the “public has the right to know.” I don’t think they’ve lived up to that and anyone that thinks so is simply naive.

  • Dark Knight

    Hannity quoted Pres Lincoln’s words today: “Property is the fruit of labor; Property is desirable; it is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry .and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence.”

    • SnarlingCur

      Yet, under Bushes watch; the Supreme Court messed with Emanate Domain, this all of our properties can be taken away for businesses now.

      • sguild

        Actually, the justices that supported the Kelo decision to expand eminent domain were not Bush appointees.

  • trails

    We don’t need a whitey tape. We’ve got Joe the Plumber!

    Get over it.

    • lark

      Maybe you’ll see it on Oct 29 at 7:58 p.m.

  • Tony

    I think people are disturbed by the nationalization going on under the current administration, at least the people I’ve talked to.

    However, I think we also believe that under Bush, Mccain or Hillary, the govt would divest these holdings after the financial/economic mess clears. But with someone like Obama, who has seemingly been steeped in Marxist theory, given his ties to Marxist radicals. It is more terrifying. I have no idea what his administration would do with these nationalized entities.

    • lark

      How about stratified or progressive interest rates where the less money you have in the account the higher your interest rate. Nice aha. Great idea.

    • lark

      Then how about if they collect their income tax directly from your bank account by automatic withdrawals. Great idea, no?

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    well, look at the good news – if obama becomes President, the middle and lower class can quit their jobs, and just stay home, and get handouts from Obama and his rich friends.

    Why work? Obama wants to spread his wealth around.

    wooooo socialism!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Just heard that Sarah Palin will appear on Saturday Night Live (Oct 18th show). Rumor has it that she will impersonate Tina Fey herself.

    • John Smith

      I am not sure if this is a good idea.

      • McHope

        Oh, she’ll be great.
        It makes no difference what the media says after the fact, as we well know.
        Besides, those voters basing their decision on SNL, weren’t voting for McCain in the first place.

  • johnqpublic

    msnbc both online and on tv has hit piece after hit piece on joe the plumber because he dared to ask a tough question about obama’s tax plan
    please e-mail msnbc and tell them politely how you feel about digging into a private citizens past to “kill the messenger” will not be tolerated. i am going to list several e-mail address the next few days and i am organizing a “call the advertisers of msnbc about boycotting their products”

    please be polite when e-mailing so we don’t sound like nuts(obambot types of people).

    letters@msnbc.com

  • lark

    OMG, (out from Greta) The Chicago Tribune endorses Obama because they can’t trust a woman with more experience and qualifications than her male counterpart. Women with higher qualifications than men cannot be trusted to do equally well as men on the same respective job.

    Woman less, much much much less than a man. Much much less. Woman nothing. Men whatever whatever are okay.

    • McHope

      Please. It’s Chicago, like they aren’t in the cesspool for Obama, regardless of history.
      At least John Kass still tells it like it is.

      All of these final quarter endorsements smack of desperation. The majority of Americans expect every news and media outlet to favor Obama.

    • Chicago

      The Chicago tribune is a business. they will endorse Obama or get more cancellation of subscriptions.

      having said that, I’ve cancelled my subscription to them right after they endorsed Obama and specifically told them that I am cancelling because of it. Then I told them that I’m getting a subscription for WSJ instead. LOL!

    • TeakWoodKite

      Hey Lark, I saw and thought..WOW! That paper was front and center on all the BOnanagins goings on. And still they drank deeply.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    Barack Obama vows to ‘change the world’
    Barack Obama has vowed that he will “change the world” even as he urged his supporters to guard against complacency.

    [how it ends]

    “He’s lost because the Messiah has spoken and we’re going to change the world. That’s all people want to hear after eight years of Bush. Obama thinks he’s won. Everyone here thinks he’s won.”

    • McHope

      That article was nothing but the biggest load of BS.
      Now the lone McCain supporter gives in, right.
      Are they sure that supporter didn’t yell, “kill him”?
      The left has reported so truthfully up til now.
      LOL funny, funny, funny.

  • JAY in Los Angeles

    Why isn’t there a movement on to NOT pay income tax this year? I, for one, don’t want to pay for the execs at AIG to get facials.

    • lark

      You know that could happen. And if it is under Obama, that will piss him off badly and the Dem Congress even more.

    • Gal from Tex

      Well I for one have no desire to deal with the IRS. The one person I dealt with on the stimulus check issue was arrogant, pissy, rude, uncouth and an out and out asshole.

  • Dark Knight

    i am so nervous as Nov 4 approaches…there is a feeling of inevitability that Obama will win – seems he overcomes everything – I still can’t belive he survived Wright…McCain please save our country

    • politicsIsdirty

      Why not turn that fear into volunteering for the McCain campaign. Each of us can make a difference.

      Also, pray to the Lord that the people of this country will be enlightened.

      Wish us luck.

    • Chicago

      Don’t give up. the polls are tightening and Obama is just 2 points ahead. watch what the campaigns do and don’t pay attention to the phony polls.

      Obama is playing defense on battleground states, their internal polling is showing a tighter race and Joe the plumber has hurt them which is why Obama himself is attacking Joe.

      don’t give up…this is winnable for McCain!

    • Ani

      Fear doesn’t get us anywhere unfortunately, Take action, fear dissipates.

      This race is neck and neck — the polls are fixed — for all you know McCain could be slightly ahead. No one has an accurate polling model for this year — everything is upside down.

      Palin is a game changer.

      PUMA Dems are a game changer.

      Don’t fear, volunteer. How’s that?

    • TeakWoodKite

      Captain Jimmy Wilder: Or, as the good Reverend would say, [Impersonating Rev. Jesse Jackson] Why we’re on this particular mission, we’ll never know. But I do know, here today, that the Black Knights will emerge victorious once again.
      Unknown Pilot: Amen, man.
      Captain Steven Hiller: Amen, Reverend.

      DO YOU BELIEVE?

  • johnqpublic

    Any candidate in the last 100 yrs who uttered a phrase even remotely close to what Obama answered would lose the election on the spot.
    We used to put people in jail for promoting communism

  • Jean

    With McCain closing in on Barack in the polls, I hope

    Joe the Plumber

    ignites a new surge for McCain that carries him across the finish line on Election Day.

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    There are some good pieces up at RCP that need voted up.

    Joe’s Ad

    McCain Defends Average Joe; Obama Mocks Him

    there are many more good ones
    http://readerarticles.realclearpolitics.com/?period=all

  • http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com Larry Sinclair

    All I can say to Joe the Plumber is, he has not seen anything yet, the Obama supporters/surrogates and MSNBC will come at him and his family even worse before its over.

    I know

  • 30yrdem-not any more

    I still think we should try to help Joe out. I did read he is losing his job over this mess???

    • Chicago

      I read someone posted a comment on HotAir that Joe the plumbers tax lien was paid off by some good samaritan.

      I think plenty of people will be helping Joe out and rightfully so!

  • IndieDogg

    Just sent the following to MSNBC, not that it will matter:

    Dear Blind Mice:

    It wasn’t Joe the Plumber’s QUESTION that’s at issue, here.

    It was Barack Obama’s ANSWER.

    I don’t care if Joe’s a plumber, a bassoon repairman or a blue frog in a hat, Obama has nobody to blame for his own words but himself.

    Wow. Wouldn’t that be a welcome change.

    /name/

    p.s. / Please let me know if you want my address, social security number or key to my garbage can; I can save you a lot of sneaking around and broken nail files.

    • TeakWoodKite

      a bassoon repairman …I repair Oboes…does that count?

  • RottenFishArePeopleToo

    Question, and I apologize if it is OT

    You say socialists believe no one has an inherent right to their own property, including their own life.

    Are one’s children considered one’s propeerty?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      only if you plan on eating them.

      • RottenFishArePeopleToo

        In the same way Madame Dohrn thought we should all dig?

        Seriously, do socialists believe the state has the right to one’s children, to dispose of as they see fit?

        Like in a war?

        The reason I ask is that I have a close friend who hates BadRock and does not want to see him elected, but fears a d**ft under McCain.

        She would vote for JM in a minute if she didn’t have this fear, and although I spoke with her for an hour about this yesterady, I think she remains unconvinced.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

          No draft under McCain ever.

          That’s a guarantee.

          Under Obama…You Betcha!

          He will draft all the patriots who might rebel against his presidency and storm washington and depose him.

          • RottenFishArePeopleToo

            No draft under McCain ever…is there a link to this somewhere online that I can send her?

            She’s also a small business owner, and ardent Hillary supporter, but I think her fear for her son is overriding everything else.

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

              In his own words

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BxXsZMlyXM

              McCain has agreed with Newt Gingrich and many other political leaders on the left and right that in a hypothetical extreme situation such as world war 3 a draft may be deemed necessary.

              But thats a hypothetical scenario, like saying, if russia nuked NYC would you nuke moscow? The falicy in this question is what the hell would an irresponsible and inexperienced bafoon like Bush or Obama have to have done to escalate tensions with Russia that would cause them to first strike and nuke NYC?

              If we end up in WW3 we have a lot bigger problems than the draft, besides the next world war wont be fought with men and trust me, if it happens you aren’t going to be worrying about much of anything except how to stop your skin from melting off from the intense heat of nuclear explosions.

              • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

                Ofcourse in this video McCain does threatn some punk with the draft…watch the the end…

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_H2w2LJ_k8&NR=1

                Fair and Balanced Reporting from the Jeremiah God Damn Barack Omerica Wright Network.

                • RottenFishArePeopleToo

                  Thank you VERY much JGDANOWN

                  I was unaware of that tape, and have emailed the link to her.

                  I just LOVE JM’s spirit as evidenced in that second clip.

                  My kind of guy.

    • Zeke

      Since in a socialist state everyone is a ward of the government, children are allowed to live with their parents only as long as the parents don’t teach their children anything contrary to the government. Bill Ayers’ ideology of teaching the kids to be worthless bastards to their own society is what is intended. You will have control of your kids in a nominal fashion as long as you toe the line. Try not paying for their health insurance and see what Obama will do. Camp Obama is waiting for these poor, lost kids and will indoctrinate them in the ways of worship.
      When the government announces that it knows best for us all, we are toast. If you ever thought that the government needed to take care of you in any way, you gave ‘em the ok to take charge.
      Now, so late in the game, people are realizing that they’ve given away the whole enchilada. Will there be time to stop the seizure of our freedom?
      Not if McCain loses…

      • RottenFishArePeopleToo

        Try not paying for their health insurance and see what Obama will do. Camp Obama is waiting for these poor, lost kids and will indoctrinate them in the ways of worship.

        I can not telyou how thankful I am every day that my chldren are grown and I have no grandchildren.

        That said I work with college students across the country.

        Some of the are also young parents. I wonder how safe their children would be with them should the government decide that so-and-so is an unfit parent because they are toeing the party line.

        • Zeke

          No joke, fish
          I just dropped a friend a line telling her that I may have pissed off the Secret Service yesterday because I wrote some bitchy things about their exploits in Texas. If I quit posting, I told her to phone me…
          :)

        • RottenFishArePeopleToo

          excuse me….NOT toeing the party line.

          We are not that far removed in time from an era where people were declared mentally unfir by fiat and sterilized inside mental facilities. Nor are we that far removed from the times when single mothers were deemed to be unfit neurotics ( their pregnancies were proof positive of that according to the experts of the time.) Some of these women lost their children to the state.

  • Dan

    Larry, can you give us any update on the existance of this “whitey tape”? On more than one occasion you have expressed your confidence in the sources that assured you that it did, in fact, exist.

    Do you still feel this way? Or have you concluded that these people were simply jerking you around?

  • I Will Remember In November!

    What really gets me is all the rich people who support Obama and say that they should have to pay higher taxes. So, why don’t they? I can’t recall a law against a citizen voluntary submitting money to the u.s. treasury, can you? Let me suggest that the “over $250k obama supporters” crowd should voluntary on April 15 take their AGI and multiple it by 3% and submitt that amount in addition to what ever other taxes they owe or decrease any refunds accordingly. Oh shoot where did I put my “THAT WAS EASY” button!
    What would really be interested is if McCain proposes to set up a reporting system something like the FEC has for campaign donations where a persons name and occupation is identified so the rest of us poor slobs can see how generous the “over $250k” crowd is. Yeah right ALL TALK.

    The Joe the plumber thing is absolutely astonishing to me. How can an ordinary citizen ask a politican…a politican a question about his policy…his policy and be subject to having his private business exposed? [BTW, I don't call what the MSM is doing to Joe the plumber a smear unless it is a lie. What I object to is the fact that a private citizen has to give up that privacy to ask a politican a question about his policy.] Who among us could hold up to that scrunity? It is simply amazing to me. What will it be like under an Obama Administration with access to IRS, FBI, State dept, background check information. Dissent will be only for the angels among us or the strong of heart.

    But really gets me is the complete irony of the whole Joe the plumber thing. Remember the SCHIP funding wars and how the repubs went after that Maryland family and their two kids for supporting the SCHIP program? Remember how the demos and the PINO bloggers when ballistic at Michelle Malkin for reporting on the family’s income, cars, schools, and home? The irony runs both ways. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

    PUMA

    • socalannie

      Good points! LOL!

    • dpvegas

      You and me both. I grit my teeth every time I’m watching Fox News, which I’ve been reduced to doing, and some conservative talks about all liberals as socialists, etc., with the smug looks on their faces. I remember telling someone a decade ago (one of my conservative brothers, actually), that whatever the Republicans do at the time will come back to haunt them.

      I’m not one for fads. Nor am I one to get paranoid about off-the-wall stuff.

      That being said, while Barky’s redistributing his wealth, I’d like his house. My tiny house, where our family of 4 lives, would fit in his master bedroom. I’d like to move my parents to the Ayers’ house, and some of my youngers brothers and sisters could have Louie’s mansion. And Wright’s. And Khalidi’s. And so on, and so forth.

  • martin

    lets face the facts people:

    1) obama does not finish national races well
    2) we all know that he bullied super delegates and may have paid them to carry him over the line against Hillary.
    3) Hillary would have won without the caucus crap
    4) obama’s past has so many skeletons people have lost count.
    5) obama is a bully but he can’t bully people when they are alone in the voting booth.
    6) if he is the chosen one why does he need acorn to steal votes by dragging the dead and criminals to the polls.
    7)this year the polling methods have been changed to favor obama’s core base (they sample a 8-9%advantage for democrats but history has shown its closer to a 4% advantage (even in years where democrat turnout was heavier).
    8) now obama has been outed by john the plumber as a socialist and far left of most american’s beliefs.
    9) it is not over until ALL OF AMERICA HAS VOTED.

    i am an independent who did not vote in the democratic primary but i saw what happened to Hillary and i know what is going on and i believe a majority of american see most of these things i have stated as facts.

    • Zeke

      Good stuff Martin,
      I am starting to feel a little tingle myself… its the silent ones clearing their throats. The people who hang up on the phone surveys. Those “plumbers” who come home after busting ass all day so they can see their kids, sip a beer and watch a little TV with the wife. The folks who just saw an arrogant, condescending sonofabitch tell one of their brothers… one of the everyday just regular “life is hard, then ya die” kind of guys that if he had any hopes and dreams of making it in America, that he could kiss them goodbye. Those poor, welfare sucking, food stamps for Mad Dog and cigarettes, ACORN husks need his money more than he does.
      I think Barack H.(initials aren’t racist yet are they?) Obama managed to let his alligator mouth finally put his hummingbird ass in more trouble than Assholerod can wiggle him out of. This has really gelled with the working man.

      • dpvegas

        He forgot his portable teleprompter that day.

  • MrMike

    That tingle Chris Matthews had down his leg?

    Barack Obama’s hand on his wallet.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      While Barack’s Right Hand was copping a feel, Barack’s left hand was co-opting the funds.

    • Susan1968

      That’s for sure Chris Matthews makes $30 MILLION a year. $30 MILLION!!!!

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

        what? what the hell for? and more importantly is Barack Subsidizing part of that with campaign contributions?

  • Anne

    Back to Joe the Plumber, another thing he will find once he buys that business…he now has a few small tax deductions, his mortgage interest paid, his dependents, perhaps, some medical, his own self, local property taxes and sales taxes.

    Once he buys that small business and has to claim all of its earnings on his own tax return, he will be a little taken aback, because his deductions will all go away due to the alternative minimum tax. He will pay even more of “his fair share” simply because he owns a small business.

    Fairness sucks, IMHO.

    I do believe McCain addresses dealing with the little known and unfair AMT.

    • Anne

      Omaha, however, to quote Tina Fey shaking her head, says, “I don’t know, I don’t know what the AMT is.”

  • Wiley

    Boy, what a nice October surprise Joe the Plumber is turning into, and the best part is that 0bama brought it on himself!
    I’m amazed that bott 0bama and Biden are jumping on the ‘kill the messenger’ bandwagon. Average Americans relate to Joe, and average Americans know socialism when they see it – and they don’t like it!

    Did anyone happen to see Biden on Leno last eve?

    Here’s the exchange regarding Joe:

    LENO: I think more people are afraid of plumbers than terrorists, actually. If you have a plumber come to your house, “Oh, my God, how much is this going to cost?” A terrorist, “No, you can’t come in,” because you don’t have to let the terrorist in. You have to let the plumber in your house. But it seems awful convenient and all — I’m a little suspicious, but that’s me, you know, worried about taxes. Does it seem real? Does that seem like a real –

    BIDEN: Let me put it this way: I don’t know — the neighborhood I grew up, even the neighborhood I live in now, which is a really nice neighborhood, I don’t know many plumbers who are making $250,000 a year and worried about it. We’re kind of worried about Joe the fireman, Joe the policeman, Joe the real plumber with a license.

    The “real plumber with a license”?!
    Amazing the 0bama campaign is too dense to see how damaging this kind of treatment is…I pray they keep it up!

    • Wiley

      Here’s a link to the Leno / Biden exchange, and BTW, Leno falling into the Jo the Plumber conspiracy theory – what an asshole!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u8vyZQwrnw

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      agreed. I hope they go after joe with the same zeal they went after sarah palin and let America see exactly who these people are.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

        btw wasn’t it Joe Plagiarist Biden who said in the debate the first thing he learned in the senate was never to question another persons motives or integrity? he said it in the debate…i guess it was just politicianspeak.

        • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

          As Rev. Wrong said about Barack, A politician will say anything to get into power…

          Senator Hair Plugs has been in power for almost 40 years…

          that doesn’t sound like Change we can believe in…

          a. hillary
          b. mccain

          america first!

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  • sleeplessinChicago

    I’ve often found that a person’s greatest strength is often their greatest weakness. And so it is with Obama. The One with the silver-tongue inadvertently tarnished it all by himself when questioned by a mere serf. That was favor #1. Thanks O. It gave McCain an opening.

    But you couldn’t just shut up. Like all great con men, you think you can talk your way out of anything. So, you go on to mock Joe the Plumber. Favor #2. And a much bigger mistake. Really. It kind of makes your “bitter, clinging to their guns and religion” comments look like a compliment. At least that remark wasn’t directed at any single person.
    But mocking Joe the Plumber, ridiculing him in a speech that you know will be shown nationwide clearly shows you are not a leader but a bully. And to paraphrase someone who stood up to a bully from another era, Senator, have you no shame?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

      Barack Obama is an asshole.

      Lets stop beating around the next bush

  • Cahil

    Isn’t it interesting that Obumble, Wright, Ayers et al, who all preach their socialist agenda, live in very expensive homes and have lots of money. I don’t notice them leading the way and moving into low income housing. They just want everyone else to have to.

    I also notice that Obumble and mate aren’t exactly generous when it comes to charitable donations. But maybe his philosophy is that charity begins at home, his home.

  • show me

    Obama health plan how much a month will it cost? In our local paper Obama spokeperson for health plan was in our city discussing his plan. I read it and had a few questions. So I called the dem office who was at this meeting.
    He says if your happy with your employers plan you can keep it, or get his.Well, at work a group of us wanted to know the benifits so we called the dem office. We asked how much a month would it cost? answer NO IDEA. What does it cover? NO IDEA. Same as the goverment employees. I asked what is that?No IDEA.LIfe insurance in the plan?NO.Disabilty?NO.
    Reason for not knowing how much it would cost because they would have to know how many get in the plan.I asked again “how about an estimate 200-300? Answer:NO IDEA
    The fine? NO IDEA.
    His health plan should be called NO IDEA.

  • karen for Clinton – 2012

    Excellent as always, Larry and crew.

    “Barack’s childhood mentor, Franklin Davis, another one closely tied to the communist party.”

    Of course you mean Frank Marshall Davis.

  • Charlotte

    Why don’t you shut the fuck up Johnson and stop being such a fascist cunt! We are all homosapiens and we all deserve the same basic necessities even if that means re-distributing- the world would be a much nicer safer and happier place if we followed socialist ideals!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Um…you seem to forget that it was Precious who catapulted good ole Joe into the national spotlight.

  • politicsIsdirty

    Martin, are you a member of Acorn?

  • johnqpublic

    the wife beating is a lie by the left wing jerks, i hope he sues you losers. proven a lie but does not stop losers from speading it.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Hmmm, this is coming from the left that thinks Palin was wayyyy off to go after her ex-brother in law for tasing his 10 year old step son and for holding a gun to her father’s head. But are now appalled by a guy who supposedly beats up on his ex-wife. So are you “shocked” by this kind of behavior or aren’t you? Did you learn to flip flop techniques from Senator Government?

  • Gal from Tex

    Hey Martin, do your homework, junior.

    1. In the state of Ohio one does not need a plumbing license to do residential work and since he is working as an apprentice under a licensed plumber (his boss in case you missed it) he doesn’t need a license.

    2. There are a lot of Americans (and a few on Barry’s campaign team don’t ya know) who have messed up on taxes. Alot of folks claim too many deductions during the year. Our first year married my hub and I owed. Oh my G_D that makes me a terrible person! Blah.

    3. You know what, my 79 year old father jokes with me every month he gets his SS check that he’s grateful I work so hard to give him money. And reminds me that by the time I reach SS age there won’t be any check for me. So is SS a joke? For my father, hell no. For me? hell yes.

    4. Divorced? So what? Dear, over half of married Americans end up divorced. As for the other, show me the police report because you know, you obots are just so trustworthy.

    You don’t get it and you will never get it and this is why Barry will lose this election: “I” am Joe the Plumber and Joe the Plumber is “me”!

  • KC

    What do we know about Obama supporters? They lie. They smear. They hate women. They hate Jews. So it does not surprise me to see the hate from Martin.

  • kgirl1028

    sitting on the shelf with your brain, and obama’s hope and change. All the dust shows none have been used much and not for a long long time.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    t..r…o…l…l…

  • SnarlingCur

    Where’s the Whitey tape, little Larry?

    With all the stuff going around destroying Obama’s credibility, that’s the best you can do?

    I really feel sorry for you, I really do.
    That “Barry” favored Kool-Aid has really messed with your head.

  • Patrick Henry

    KGIRL..

    Right On..!

  • hank48188

    McCain likes Joe because he got Obama to tell the Truth FOR A CHANGE. Joe wasn’t looking for Obama but Obama turned up on his street, right in front of Joe’s house. Obama told Joe that he wanted to take from the rich and give to the poor, sort of like Robin Hood. That idea doesn’t set well with many Americans

  • McTampaBayacuda

    WasLN,

    Don’t you find it funny that Obama supporters didn’t find a wife beater important when it came to Governor Palin and the trooper but let some guy question THE ONE and suddenly
    they use it as an issue.

  • vanroth

    Joe the Plumber could be the worst guy in the world – the issue is not him, its what your stupid egoistic messiah said to him. Guess thats just too hard for moron like you to understand ..

  • martin

    i was wrong i found out that joe the plumber did not beat his wife but i must confess my dad likes to have sex with me. i really don’t mind it but i wish mom was not watching.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    You do realize that in ohio, there is a law that requires a portion of court proceeds submitted to a fund to help victims of marital domestic violence.

    Right?

    Irregardless of whether you beat your wife, your wife beats you or nobody beats anybody, when you go through a divorce you have to pay into that as a civic duty.

    Right?

    Just like its a civic duty to check your brain and make sure it in your head and not your buttocks before you post a comment calling someone a wife beater.

    Right?

    But then as an o-bot, its become quite clear that you will, like your fraud of a huckster fauxmessiah, say anything and do anything lie about anything and smear anyone to achieve your goal of electing America’s very own Hugo Dipshit Chavez to the office of the presidency because you actually think in a banana republic you get free bananas.

    Right?

  • Jules

    HA HAAAAA!!!! IT TOOK A PLUMBER TO BURY “THE ONE”. I AM LOVING THIS.

  • McTampaBayacuda

    Martin,
    First asshole you need to take classes in reading comprehension. I didn’t say the trooper beat Palin.

    second, I don’t know anything about Joe”s life It’s none of our business. He asked your master a question and your master fucked up and told the truth for once.

    When people work 16 hours a day or spend years going to school and finally make a decent living it is not the governments place to take his money and give it to someone who is not willing to work as hard.

    I know your type though, You can’t wait, I’m sure you’ve got your greedy little hand out! People like you make me want to puke!!!!

  • imustprotest

    I was thinking the same thing….funny how the faux outrage of the Obamabullies comes out when they think it will help their precious Dear Leader, Obamasoretoro.

  • McTampaBayacuda

    This is America, if you want more money, go to school work hard and anything is possible.

    Cindy McCains father borrowed $10,000 and worked hard to make his money.

    Cindy Made 4 million last year and payed over a million in taxes.

    Rich people pay the majority of taxes in this country. Over 40% don’t pay anything at all.

    Obama wants to raise taxes on anyone that makes over $250,000. Do you realize that 5% of the people in this country pay the most taxes?

  • Jules

    Is that because you think that the rich should be rewarded for being rich by government making them richer, by taxing their earned income less as a % than middle class people?

    Since when is the tax rate for the rich LESS than the middle class? I am not rich myself, but I don’t think I am entitled to someone else’s money just because some may have more than I do. If someone works their ass off, should their prosperity pay for all the lazy asses who want to game the government social programs? If 40% of Americans don’t even pay taxes at all, what do you think is going on there? It seems to me that the rich are footing the bill for everyone already.

  • McTampaBayacuda

    Now that’s more like it Martin, If you don’t like your mom watching ask Obama for some tips. I heard he had the same problem :)

  • Postmaster

    Please remove Martin and his ugly, non related comments, thank you.

  • Zeke

    somebody has to tape the money shot…
    take a hike comrade

  • socalannie

    The obots will stoop to anything. They have a bottomless spirit.

    Jeremiah, can you tell me what happened with the voter fraud case in Ohio? I just got home & heard it mentioned, but not enough to understand what happened. Thanks!

  • johnqpublic

    martin is gone. i had to restate his real position….sorry… i like you guys don’t ban me

  • tommyo77

    Martin,
    You really are stupid. You apparently can’t read, you don’t understand simple tax policy in USA and you have a hard time following simple events. It is clear you are a first class Obama supporter. You must have come to this site thinking, since your one of the smarter people on the Obama sites maybe you would come over here and show off. Your in over your head, my friend, go back to your double digit IQ friends on the Obama sites where they think you are an intellectual giant.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    Supremes stopped it on a technicality.

    Apparently the RNC is a private organization and does not have the right to sue to force Acorn to comply with federal election law.

    In other words according to the Liberal chief justice, you have to follow the law but you can’t sue to enforce it.

    That suit has to come from a public organization or the state i guess.

    We will see what happens next, but i am sure glad that we didn’t disinfranchise Mickey Mouse.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    The Hockey Mom exposed the Messiah of Hope as a Man with no Record.

    The Plumber exposed the Man with no record as the Socialist with his hand on your wallet.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    You may get martinized for it but just email susanunpc@gmail.com if that happens and explain. Say Jeremiah made you do that message.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bijtBkKQwY8 Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright

    You have to love America. The people of this country may very well be all that stands between him and the presidency and they are fighting it every step of the way.