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Talking ‘bout the C Word and Female Rites of Passage

For most women, there are instances and occasions that mark one’s awakening to the realities of their gendered life in America. Some are full of joy, some painful and others a strong reminder that women are still second class citizens in this country.

What are some of these rites of passage?

The first time you get your period.

The first time you get a manicure or pedicure.

The first time you buy a bra.

The first time you have sex.

The first time you realize you do not feel safe walking down the street by yourself.

The first time you realize that your opinion is not valued as much as some of the guys you know.

The first time you realize that the men you know make far more money than most of the women you know.

The first time you realize that men who do not do as good a job as some of the women you know are still getting the promotions.

The first time you realize you have never seen a woman on a printed bill and that there is no image of a woman carved onto Mount Rushmore.

The first time you realize the United States is the only country in the industrialized world that has not elected a woman to the highest office of the land.

The first time you realize that all sorts of people, including members of the media, can say sexist things about women and very few people or organizations call them on it, including organizations that promote general human rights and women’s rights.

And then, there’s the first time you are called a cunt.

Ouch. You read correctly. It even hurts to read it on the printed page.

I remember the first time I was called a cunt. I was in college. I disagreed with what a friend of my boyfriend wanted to do and he called me a cunt. Loudly. Across the room.

I remember the waves of shame washing over my face. Feeling reduced to my gender and gender alone, and in the most intimate way. Suddenly understanding the relationship between voicing my opinion and being called a name that was intended to be derogatory and to keep me in my place.

Ouch.

It took me a long time to get over that. And to get over the fact that no one said anything to counteract it. Not my boyfriend. Not the manager of the store. Not anyone around us.

A simple, “Hey, man, knock it off,” or “That’s not cool,” or “ Please apologize to the young lady,” would have helped. But there was nothing.
In that instance, I understood the old and young boys club and the loyalties that exist between men and how they often shore up each other’s insecurities or make excuses.
Cunt.

Kind of like nigger, kike, wop or faggot.

It is one of those words that civilized people should not use in reference to each other. In public or in private. It is hurtful and conveys utter disrespect for women and yet it is undergoing a renaissance it would seem.
Recently, at political rallies for Barack Obama as well as John McCain, both men and women have shown up wearing tee shirts that read “Sarah Palin is a cunt”.
Remarkable.
Has all notion of civility gone out the door??

And what of the young women? Do they not understand that they are colluding in their own denigration? Or do they think that putting down another woman with vulgar language will open the doors to the boys club?

And where are our organizations that supposedly promote women’s rights and dignity?
Like the National Organization for Women or Emily’s List or NARAL.

Or are they primarily concerned with raising money?

John McCain mentioned the tee shirts during his third and final debate with Barack Obama on Wednesday although civility precluded him from going into the specifics.

Barack Obama brushed this aside, saying that all campaigns have some fringe elements.

Indeed, they do. And his campaign seems to have a surplus of extremists. But Obama didn’t apologize for the actions of his devotees or say they were out of line. Just like he was completely silent as the media excoriated Hillary Clinton for month after month after month in sexist terms.
How differently I might feel about him had he said something.

Anything.
To be sure, I still would have a hard time excusing the fact that his campaign swamped the caucuses causing massive voter fraud, stripped Clinton of her rightful votes in Michigan and Florida and denied her an open and honest roll call at the Democratic Convention.

To be sure, I still would question his paper thin resume, lack of effectiveness in his own district in Illinois which he was elected to serve, his questionable associates like convicted felon Tony Rezko, unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers and Reverend Jeremiah Wright who promotes racism and anti-Semitism through the pulpit.

I cherish my opportunity and responsibility to vote. I know politics can be rough business so I am trying to be realistic. I have asked myself what I can overlook since so much of the country has somehow excused Obama’s behavior and choices.

I have tried. I have had countless conversations and read countless articles and viewed countless hours of television and I just can’t go there.

Because in addition to all of these other red flags, no matter how Obama paints it, he ultimately does not have respect for women. He will not speak up when it is inconvenient for him and John McCain will.

Just who is this man? How can Barack Obama— who professes to revere his grandmother, his mother, his wife and two daughters— stay silent in the face of this kind of sexism? Who is he, really?

I’m thinking, “Just say no deal!”

  • jmm

    Wow Joan of Art, excellent, excellent post. Made tear up a little too.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Thank you for this, Joan!

    obama has the upmost contempt, not only for any woman who aspires to a position of responsibility, but for every working class citizen of this great country.

    But it is he who is contemptible.

    The American people will speak on Nov. 4th.

    And every woman who has been stung and hurt by the sexist actions of his campaign (and their are MILLIONS of us) will have their say.

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Thank you for this, Joan!

    obama has the upmost contempt, not only for any woman who aspires to a position of responsibility, but for every working class citizen of this great country.

    But it is he who is contemptible.

    The American people will speak on Nov. 4th.

    And every woman who has been stung and hurt by the sexist actions of his campaign (and there are MILLIONS of us) will have their say.

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • benny

    wow, this article is very raw. makes me hesitant to comment. no, dont think I’m qualified cos I dont know how it feels to be a woman.

  • Lisa

    Excellent. thank you for that.

  • HARP

    Sorry ladies but I think I will skip this thread.

  • SantaFeK

    Yup. I got that feeling of nausea and flashbacks as I read your wonderful article. I still have my 59 cents button, but what is it now, 72 cents on the dollar compared to men?

    Please all, check out Thenewagenda.net for new attempt to try to do something about this sexism and misogyny.

  • Suisser

    Moved me to tears. Angry tears.

  • Cindy

    You are exactly on target with this post, though I would include the denigrating word “Bitch” also. “Bitch” is probably the very last word a woman who is murdered by spouse/boyfriend hears; yet, it is sinking deeper and deeper into our “acceptable” lexicon. It’s the same as nigger, cunt, fag, etc. as far as I’m concerned.
    Thank you for this very enlightening and thoughtful post!

  • Hope Floats! Flush Twice!

    The worst is when it’s in public, and nobody says anything. I was called a C U Next Tuesday by my husband who had too much to drink at a dinner party. I stopped in a gas station to get some coffee and ended up throwing it in his face when THAT WORD was screamed at me. He pushed me, too. The clerk said nothing until I threw the coffee. Not when I was pushed hard… twice. But he objected to the mess he would have to clean up.

  • Goblintrain

    Joan, i’m with you about the C word, but your rights of passage leave me with a question? By your list, is a woman now no longer a woman simply because she hasn’t had sex?

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    A SAD BUT VERY TRUE ACCOUNT OF BEING A WOMAN.
    THAT IS WHY SOMETIMES WE WOMEN MUST BE BULLDOGS AND BITCHES. RESPECT. THE ONLY WAY TO EARN IT IN THIS MALE DOMINATED WORLD IS TO BE A BITCH AND A BULLDOG! POWER TO PALIN!

  • LD

    I applaud you!!

  • FM

    OT

    The straight talk express was hit with a .22 caliber weapon, and paint balls…

    Thankfully no one was on board….

    Has the main stream media reported this yet? If so, I have not heard it….

    The Republican candidate’s bus has been shot at, a window was shattered….and this isn’t breaking news?….

    If Obama’s bus bus was hit with a burst of water from a super soaker…it would be a two-day, 24-hour breaking news story…

    http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress.com/

  • DAB

    I too find it incomprehensible that the younger generation of women do not find this kind of treatment reprehensible. What is even more puzzling is why the likes of Gloria Steinem and NOW haven’t spoken up about this travesty? I guess their principles only go so far…..

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    have you left yet?

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Sorry for the double post…don’t know how that happened. :-(

  • PGraber

    In all fairness, we could have worn t-shirts that said “Barack is a nigger”.

  • cat

    why?

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    You are so right. I remember before I got banned on a blog during the primaries when I responded to a remark made by a Obama supporter about Clintons vote for Iraq. I told him that I agreed with Clinton’s vote, in my response I stated that I was in the military etc etc and gave, what I thought was a reasonable answer to a statement by providing facts. Well when I went to look to see if he replied, he did.

    This as$hole wrote: “I hope you die you stupid cunt, the next time you go to Iraq for supporting the cunt who sent you there” I reported the remark to the site owner and I GOT BANNED! They didnt even remove his statement. People piled on with there opinions and I couldnt even reply to defend myself.

    Yes, it was embarrasing but not because I really cared, its just that I had refered two of my soliders spouses to that blog who mainly just lurked and really not post. That was around the time those bloggers went on “strike” over at Daily Kos. If I would of known then what I know now, I would of never gotten so wrapped up in the “blogosphere” and it wouldnt of bothered me.

    The hate from Obama supporters is just unreal. Many of the people here know that when I first started hanging out on the blogs it was after my surgery and before I started radiation therapy after I came back from being deployed. So it was shocking for me to read the level of hatred directed my way because I didnt support a certain candidate. Even when a month ago I was in the hospital and one of my soldiers posted on here that I wouldnt be able to do the show we normally have on Thursday’s. A bot posted a comment saying that they “hope” I stay in the hospital and that way I will keep my mouth shut.

    Believe me when I say my family was beyond pissed after reading some of the crap they leave me almost daily.

  • wodiej

    NO SHIT….

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    I’m 55 y/o, a woman, and have been around the block in life. I’ve been subjected either directly or second-hand to just about every degrading term there is for a woman. Answer me this:

    Why is it that when we want to insult a man, we say something that is not insulting directly to him, but usually insults his mother (as in motherf–er, or son-of-a bitch)?

    I read recently that Sharia law courts will soon be allowed in the UK. Don’t think it couldn’t happen here.

  • Patience

    Thanks Joan of Art – In addition to the things you’ve listed, I can remember the “acting dumb” period of my adolescence. This occured at the time when I really wanted boys to notice me and like me. They knew I wasn’t really dumb — after all, they’d been my classmates for years by then — but I was rewarded nevertheless because I willingly played the game and didn’t try to upstage them intellectually.

    Thankfully, things changed since then but this election season has put me on guard (or should I say on notice?) once again. In many ways, the gains seem illusory. First Hillary and now Sarah. Where on earth is the outrage? We hear daily claims of racism but nary a word about sexism or downright misogyny. The opposition likes to paint McCain as an erratic old man, but I’ve got news for them, he gets it and he walks the walk. OBAMA is the throwback. Frankly, I don’t know how any self-respecting woman can vote for him.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Yes, we could, because the C word is just as offensive as the N word.

    BO has done more to harm race and gender relations in this country than any other person who has ever lived!

  • KathyNeocon

    That just sickens me. Some of these Obots are just plain evil, and it all starts with their Leader.

    Thank you soldier4hillary for your courage and strength serving our country and speaking for so many others in denouncing the sham that is Obama, and this new breed of fascism disguised as liberalism.

  • Leisa

    I did not read this as an exclusive or inclusive lists, just some common event that happen to women.

    There are some things that I hope my daughter and her friends will never experience, and if they are ever treated in a demeaning, sexist way, I hope that she will have the courage and support to stand up for herself or her friends when it happens.

    Sexism was tolerated to get Clarence Thomas appointed as the first Black Supreme Court Justice. We should not tolerate sexism as a tool to elect the first Black POTUS.

  • HT

    Joan, well done. What is happening to civilized discourse is a disgrace, and the center this time happens to be women. Why? Perhaps because women have never in toto realized that they are more than 50% of the population, and if galvanized, could realize autonomy and move into a truly equal society…. didn’t happen in my mother’s lifetime, won’t happen in mine (we were both feminist activists) and with what I am seeing today in Obamaland, it won’t happen in my daughter’s, nor my great, great grandauther’s life. When I was a young sprout, in the 60′s, I had so many hopes and dreams. Today….well, today is just another year where women are treated as second class,disposable citizens.
    Back to lurkerdom

  • wodiej

    wow….excellent post…it really hits home and it is heartbreaking.

    I can’t remember the last time someone called me a filthy name like cunt or bitch but then my circle of company is primarily female and a gay male friend. I can’t even stand to be around my own brother because he is arrogant and does not treat women well. Far too many women tolerate this kind of behavior that is why society allows it.

  • wodiej

    I thank you as well for your service…and so sorry about the nastiness.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    There are many, many formerly Democratic women (myself included) who used to fall into the “feminist” camp of 20-25 years ago. We are now considerably older, wiser (thank God!), and after having our own children and seeing our parents grow older and die, we are more conservative too. Many of us have reconsidered our former position on abortion and many, many of us have returned to our religious faith.

    Some of those women (like Gloria S. and the leader of NOW) are walking around with their eyes closed. They never wised-up.

    MIllions of us older, wiser women will proudly walk into the privacy of the election booth on Nov. 4th and vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin to try to take back our country from the filth that is trying to overrun us.

  • JozefAL

    A couple of comments:
    1–Without meaning to minimize the matter, it IS possible to see a woman’s picture on printed money. Granted, it’s not AMERICAN currency, but several countries have currency featuring women, the most notable being the UK (which has also been fortunate to have a female prime minister).
    2–Regarding Obama’s “fringe elements” comments, that certainly hasn’t stopped HIS campaign from bristling when a supposed McCain supporter made some allegedly outrageous comment (anyone remember the “Kill him” outrage?). Obama THRIVES on his supporters’ outrageous actions and comments, especially those from the “fringe element”. Obama won’t tell them to stop because HE has given the tacit endorsement. (Wasn’t it Obama who brought up the “bring a gun to a knife fight” metaphor?)

  • HC

    Send him packing. Angry drunks are no good.

  • geeez

    the first time i was called it was in when i was walking home from school with my friend, some guy probably in his 20′s drove really fast up to us with his windows down and yelled it and then laughed. i didnt know him and i didnt know what it ment i had to ask my mom.

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com soldier4hillary

    Voting for Obama has always been a moral issue because the things that he allows in his campaign are actions that are punishable by UCMJ in the military. I just cannot support someone who is so divisive. What he inspires in his supporters…I have seen local nationals in Uzbekistan and Kandahar that act better than they do. Hell even when they had Sadaam Hussein as a leader the Iraqi’s acted better than his supporters. He incites violence with his words, he uses race baiting as motivation for his base, and the hate, the hate I have had directed towards me, as well as what I have witnessed is what makes me fight tooth and nail in the opposite direction.

    God, I love my job, lord knows I do. But I cannot see myself staying in the military under Obama. I do not trust this man. I have been thinking about this so long and hard because they did not allow anyone to ask questions of him without calling them racist. He has MILLIONS coming from third world countries. I have people from Jakarta Indonesia on my blog constantly(courtesy of sitemeter). Why the hell would someone do a google search for “soldier4hillary”? I DO NOT KNOW anyone in Jakarta.

    When they posted a couple of weeks ago in the comment section about his latest round of questionable donations, I made a remark saying that anyone in that area giving BOs campaign over 23,000 was suspicious. We used to go through there on convoys and it was worse than a slum. And I damn sure people living in a slum like that would spend money on Obama T shirts when there living in what is equivalent as a hut.

    Something is really really wrong in this election.

  • notrees

    Where I live there are white ones and there are black ones, Ns that is. There are white lies and there are black lies. I have heard numerous times both white and black called nigger. Just as I have heard both white and black talk about white trash. I have heard of trailer park trash and south side trash. But whether it is said in referrence to a white, black, brown, red, or yellow lady, makes no difference to me I cannot stand the C and I will never say it. It is disgusting. I’m a man and probabely use as much foul language as most people who use it–but I cannot tolerate that “C” word. There is just something about that word that is vile and sickening and inhumane.

  • Thinker

    http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf

    …I’m passing along a link I came across.

    It talks about Obama’s hidden hypnosis techniques in his speeches. I knew something was up when I saw all of those women supposedly fainting at his rallies.

    “Covert hypnosis…It is impossible to detect unless you know precisely what to look for. It is designed to sideline rational judgement.”

    I’ve always believed that many of the Obama supporters I know are very irrational people. Trying to have a logical conversation with them is impossible and know I possibly know why.

  • vee

    “Something is really really wrong in this election.”

    That is the one of the best one sentence statements on this election that can be made. Some days the mood surrounding this election feels almost funereal. Having someone like Obama as a nominee for POTUS is one of the saddest most disturbing events to occur in my life time.

  • Carol

    I am a proud Republican and I read a lot of blogs on both sided (Dem and Rep) but this is one of the most powerful things I have ever read. Thank you.

  • JozefAL

    Note to administrators: The following comment deliberately contains blatantly offensive words but is offered to highlight a certain double standard of American society.

    What would happen, do you think, if someone wore a shirt with “Barack Obama: Son of a nigger-loving white cunt” emblazoned on it?
    Only one of those words would garner ALL the media’s attention. (Even if the shirt simply read “Barack Obama: Son of a cunt” would make less impact because the media–and society, at large–simply doesn’t value women.)

  • hedy

    When I heard Colin Powell say one of the reasons he was for Obama was the way that McCain was running his campaign. I guess he hasn’t paid much attention to Obamas when he brushed Hillary off his shoulder when he gave her the finger when they called the Clintons racist I could go on but I think you know what I mean and then we have Clair McCaskill who knocked Hillary down and now is after Sarah Palin I guess with women like Clair we will never get anywhere because she can’t even stand behind her own kind. This race has brought out all the bad and I think that there is one person who has brought out all this and it is the one person who started it all and has let it go on because it suited his purpose.

  • Bas

    This all negativity seem a dirty politics for the people. Whenever I talk this to other people. They say it is all false b/s they all think it is a mechanism for others to change the subject .

    I think Obama has done manything to convince people. He always says don’t be distracted they don’t want to talk the issue. I think this sticks with the people.

    I am afraid within the next two weeks people’s mind will change much. If he passes this week safely, it would be very very unlikely to change the course.

    We really underestimate this guy. He is in control of every thing.

    Every time , he got in problem, he has some one else to come and roll out for him.

    I heard he has also other top guys just in case if he gets in trouble ,he will use them to divert the issue.

    MSM all in all, newsletters all in all are in tank for him.

    Don’t underestimate him .

    I am really afraid. We should use something esle

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    I remember being called a bitch for the first time. It was a neighborhood boy’s older brother. I was all of maybe 12 years old. I knew right then and there that I was somehow less even though I wasn’t sure what the word meant.

    I remember literally being patted on the head by a boss and dismissed with a paycheck in hand that was far below what I had been promised when I accepted the job. Needless to say I didn’t stay very long there.

    I remember being told by a school district I worked for that the only reason they would let me out of a contract was if I was getting married, thus holding me in the job against my will for any other reason.

    It does occur to me that Obama and Co. do create and attract a ton on negative energy. Whether it’s allowing the fringe element to wear disgusting t-shirts or the media camped on Joe the Plumber’s front lawn, or the blatant lies about just nearly everything, the negativity is touchable.

    I really just hope that America will wake up in time.

  • Shiloh

    The concern trolls have outsourced their work abroad.

  • Shiloh

    NQ isn’t going to turn into a female pity party is it?

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    The moment I saw Obama flip off Hillary, that changed the game completely for me. There was no way I could support him, ever.

  • formerlydem

    Actually Obama’s views on women and why he hasn’t spoken out against the misogyny perpetrated by his minions probably come from the people he has associated with all these years. Does anyone here remember the famous reply from Stokely Carmichael when asked the position of women in the black liberation movement. He replied that their position was “prone.” Eldrige Cleaver referred to the women’s power in the movement as “pussy power.” This election cycle is like a slap in the face of every woman in this country. Lest we think we really have come a long way, Obama and his nuts are proving that we’re still way, way back in the pack.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    This dialogue seems to make you uncomfortable. Perhaps another thread would be more to your liking.

  • lark

    Joan of Art.

    I am not a woman so I don’t understand much of what you spoke. And I don’t mean to say that I could if I tried.

    But I wonder why you didn’t include: The first time you were paid equal than a man. & The first time you were paid more than a man. & The first time you accomplished much more than the men around you accomplished – singly or jointly.

    I am intruding in an area way out of my understanding. But that’s why I admire so much Sarah Palin, because she just have overcomed so many of these things perceivably seamlessly. Todd is just there to cheer her up.

    I admire women a lot. I have great admiration for my wife and for my daughter. They earn my respect in so many ways. Just even taking pain and living with illnesses and overcoming great obstacles and difficulties. I don’t know how many women do it, but I certainly am incapable of coming close.

  • the new dope

    hate that word, and I’m completely floored how any woman can vote for a guy who promotes its use on t-shirts, I’m scared of what I’ll do if I see someone wearing one, but then again, probably not worth it to stoop to their level anyway.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    The term, “coal-burner,” would have sufficed.

  • AnninCA

    I’m not sorry that a lot of you are surprised by this.

    I find it very hopeful.

    I was a lot more discouraged when nobody saw it. I did booster myself with platitudes, such as “The truth reveals itself.”

    I’m so glad I did.

    I’m so glad I was right.

    I feel a lot more contented now.

  • Diana L. C.

    Seems to me that “HO” is another word that now seems acceptable, despite what happened to Howard Stern. (Maybe to The One it is only unacceptable if the phrase “nappy-headed” is in front of it.)

    Joan,

    Your post is exactly on target for the way I feel about this election. Every time my “with it” liberal friends complain to me about Palin, I just answer back (especially since many have female children) by asking if they really, really want their children to call someone “THEIR” President who takes the stage after “stealing” a caucus to Jay-Z’s “99 Problems and a Bitch Ain’t One.” I ask them if “THEIR” President would make them proud for pretending that he doesn’t know or doesn’t have any responsibility for his minions sporting T-shirts that say, “Cook my dinner but don’t run my country” or “Iron my shirt” or “Bros before Hos” OR the one now used against Sarah Palin, which I can’t bring myself to type out.

    Most of these “superior” men women may just be hiding their heads in the sand, pretending that somehow this phenomenon is really a Republican lie. I will show no understanding to these people if he is elected and this all finally comes to the forefront. They, including my family nmembers who support him, have lost my respect.

    The most frightening thing is the report I read about The One’s trip in the 80′s to visit people who are way into Sharia law and the treatment of women accordingly and now the reports about the promises Oginga Odinga, The One’s relative, may have made to his Muslim followers regarding the same thing.

    He is just brazenly a narcissistic ego-cenctric, egotistical bully. Who in the world can really want that?

  • xax

    If it’s already posted I apologize but

    :::::VERY IMPORTANT NEWS:::::

    From Chicagoans against Obama

    Straight Talk Express SHOT AT!!!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    you are treading on VERY thin ice here.

  • xax

    May be a false story. Published by some guy from a partisan group.

  • benny

    I will make only one comment cos the conundrum puzzles me. why do our progressive women hate Palin? the obamacrats (men) I know just dont think that she is ready and that she doesnt have the right policies. but the women HATE her. Its a revealation to me. Women (obamacrats) revel in pulling down Palin. that is so discriminatory. why cant the women who support obama just criticize Palin on her policies, and not just hate and detest her?

  • cookiegramma

    This post is a good reminder of all the progress we thought we had made, unfortunately the operative word now is thought. The obots have sickened me this whole election season with the venomous language and behavior they have exhibited toward women and anyone who does not worship at the feet of this person. Sorry, I just heard that animal insult Gov. palin- He said and I quote “you know, you really have to work hard to violate governor Palin’s standards.” He is the lowest of the low, no wonder the thing he is married to is so angry.I would have never allowed him to open his mouth in front of me again with the misogony he shows to women. Let’s elect the only real man in this race, John McCain.

  • wodiej

    maybe you are on the wrong blog, perhaps you would be more comfortable say at Huffpoop or Daily Kos? Women have been SHIT on non stop since the primaries and you can’t give us one FUCKING THREAD over some nasty t shirts that call Sarah Palin a “cunt”??

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    As the single father of a daughter (now 38) I foresaw a rocky road for a female with an IQ upwards of 160 with almost NO interest in being, “cute,” “sweet,” or, “nice.” So I made sure that she knew how to be Polite and Civil.

    Deferential was NOT gonna fly with her. It would need to be learned the Old-Fashioned Way.

    For her 12th birthday, I got her a bracelet with her mantra:

    “You can beat any man in any land,
    At any game that he can name
    For any amount that he can count.”

    There is a story from her Squadron back in the 1990′s, when someone caled her a c**t. Supposedly she turned quickly, got right into the speaker’s face and bellowed, in her best Command Voice, “That’s LIEUTENANT C**t to you, asshole!”

  • Diana L. C.

    I have an idea. Let’s print some t-shirts for people to wear to O events. I just can’t decide which is better: “Obama and Biden are Pricks!” or “Obama and Biden are Dicks!”

  • http://libland Audacity of Hype

    Can anyone here provide me a link to a photo of Obama supporters wearing one of those t-shirts? I want to sent the link to a friend of mine who can – with a broken heart – pass it along to her liberal feminist friends who pound her inbox daily with pro-Obama garbage.

  • Firefly

    This is a major part of barky’s strategy:

    – Run a vicious, depicable, war-like, politics of personal destruction, smear campaign via his minions in the media and on the blogs while 0bama publicly plays the oh-so-presidential role, so above the fray, donchaknow…

    – the opponent defends himself/herself, talking about issues and bringing into it the associations and history 0bama cannot let into the public discourse without losing the election

    – the minions reappear in order to play “horrified” at the opponent’s “negative campaign” – repeated ad nauseum by all minions all the time, especially in the media

    For every topic, lather, rinse, repeat.

    0bama did it to Hillary and had his thugs in the media “oh so concerned about the tone of her campaign” – “we’re watching her tone very very carefully” – OMG – when I heard that I came very very close to throwing furniture through my television screen.

    And now they’re doing it to McCain – kell surpreeze. 0bama and the media are the filthiest scum to ever darken the American political arena.

  • http://libland Audacity of Hype

    And by t-shirt, I mean Palin is a cunt t-shirt.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Trica Spiegel

    Wow–Great, sad post.

    My first terrorezing word was not the C word, but just as bad: “Dumb Snatch.” Same thing really, woman as a piece of anatomy, and an inferior one at that.

    When I see those tee-shirts using the C word aganst Sarah Paline, I don’t care that I don’t agree with her on almost anything. I’m with her–she has done a lot with her life that most men will never be able to do. And still…

    Girlfriends, we still have a lot of work to do.

  • shadow

    Interesting. There sure is something going on. People are behaving like robots.

  • SWPAnnA

    Even when he responded to the reaction in the room at a fundraiser where the late Bernie Mack made crude sexist jokes, he “took it back” immediately with “I’m just messin’ with you, man.”

  • http://Brendon William L. Donlon

    It’s a Given that Barack is a Masaganistic Bigot of the extreme Left KKK.

    It’s also a given that Barack has issues with all women.

    The question is “Why”???

    Being a child of mixed race and the extra burdens it brings has given Barack a confused self image on many levels.

    Barack blames his mother for the burdens of his mixed race status and is unable to forgive her for it even as he gives his Black father a total pass.

    Barack had issues with his infant half sister and his Mother had to send him back to Grdmother when he was ten years old.

    Barack never went near his Mother’s death bed in 1994.

    Barack had issues with Gradmother, who paid dearly to send him to the best schools.

    Barack threw the female grandparent under the bus with out so much as a blink, to save an ultra black KKK male hate monger, Rev. Wright.

    Barack is not alone in the African Far left KKK as a Gender Bigot.

    Listen to Black Rap.

    Every woman in every song is a “Whore”, A “Bitch” and A “C U Next Tuesday”

    Barack, like a lot of black “men”, has a scrambled sexual self image.

    The over the top macho, bling come on, is an attempt to mask deeply felt homosexual feelings.

    “Gang Banging” is an attempt to find a “Lover” and a “Family”.

    Black males in prison become, or find “a Bitch” at a much higher rate than prisoners of other Races.

    They have brought HIV back to the “Hood” on their release.

    Barack has experimented in sex acts “On The Down Low”.

    AIDS is on the rise in the African American community because Black Men “on the down low” give it to their “bitches” with out remorse.

    Some actually keep score of the Women they have infected.

    Opra has done entire shows on the issue.

    Michele has been tested for HIV, which is why they won’t release the Obama medical records.

    Barack has deep seated anger with everything American.

    Bill Ayers is another alter ego for confused and angry Barack.

    Bill did what Barack wants, but lacks the Balls to do.

    Barack’s mixed race self loathing is transfered to his Mother, the White participant, and generalized to All Women.

    When Barack chose a Gay lover, it was no accident that he chose a White male.

    He is desperatly trying to become his mother, undo her “mistake” and his inability to do this manafests itself in frustration, rage and mis-directed self loathing against all women.

    All in All, Barack is one screwed up Dude.

  • Bryan

    Joan, wow. Opened my eyes. I’m a guy, would never be in your shoes yet your letter sure lets me know how you felt. Just showed my wife this.

    My brother and his wife have a daughter coming in Feb. Will be my Mom’s first granddaughter. I just hope by the time she’s an adult that things will be alot better for her. And for all women.

  • yttik

    Wow Joan of Art, fabulous post. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • Jackie

    Thurgood Marshall was the first Black Supreme Court Justice. NOT Thomas thanks to God.

  • HT

    Perhaps the women who you think are progressive are those who see their future tied to a “man’s” success. Perhaps thse women may be “progressive” whatever that may mean, but do not think of themselves as liberal, or self sustaining or independent. Perhaps those women want power and see that the only way they will get power is by joining the herd. Perhaps those women look at self sustaining, independent women as a threat to their own niche that they have meticulously carved out by being silent water carriers for the establishment. I cannot answer what motivates these women, hoever, I’ve worked with their ilk for many years and quite frankly, they P$ss me off. Women like Erica Jong and Gloria Steinem have made their way, and are now pulling the ladder up. Gosh forbid,they should have any competition from other females! They are special cause they made it (Gloria on infiltrating the Playboy mansion as a “Bunny, Erica on an inane book about the zzipperless F@@k.
    In their mind, the rest of the gender is just so much cattle, there for the express purpose of buying their books and enriching them, but gosh forbid they get any uppity ideas, particularly if those ideas mean that the person will surpass their own wonderous achievements. In my experience, they are not real feminists. They just learned to play the existing game and are determined to ensure no one other woman ever achieves what they did.
    Sarah Palin, to them, is an abomination. They weren’t asked to be VP, so she must be defective. I hate to denigrate other women, but this election is ridiculous in the perpetration of sexism, misogynism, and all round hatred of the female gender
    It reminds me of two songs
    - One from South Pacific – You’ve got to be taught
    - The other a more recent version – Teach your children.

  • Susan

    Hysteria…. The earth is falling.

    The t-shirts are ridiculous and over-the-top.

    This kind of behavior should not be encourage on either side. The personal attacks are a waste of time and a distraction.

    Hillary had her chance, but could not get it done. I am sure many of you would be going nuts about Hillary if she was the candidate and your sexism and hatred for her would be coming out on this blog just like the hate for Obama.

    This is not doing the party any good. Independent voters don’t care about this crap. Focus on the issues. Focus on jobs, the economy, foreign policy, etc.

    Let me remind you the womanizer John McCain does not have the best track record. He once called is wife a “cunt” in front of three reporters, when she made a comment about his hair. He also treated is first wife absolutely horribly.

  • Alice Paul WPB

    I am 48 and was fairly young when most of the womans lib movement was going on. But I had a strong single mother that taught me to always be able to take care of myself.

    I pay the bills in our family, purchase the cars and mortgages since I have a background in finance, work, clean, shop and birthed and brought up our daughter. I always thought I was teaching her the same things.

    But it seems we are going backwards. Several years ago I received a copy of one of the popular young womans magazines. My daughter was about eight and she wanted to know if she could look through it. Last time I had read it was probably in the late 70′s so I said sure. Later on I looked through it and I was amazed to find almost all articles were either on sex tips and I mean explicit info or on how to get ultra thin. I wrote them a long letter which was never responded to.

    What I said was what happened to the woman movement? Why don’t we teach young people how to have successful relationships, good eating habits? Circus tricks in the bedroom only last so long!

    Look a rap videos or songs I here that talk about “her being down on her knees looking up at me” (I can’t remember who sings that one).

    My daughter even said something to me about Gov.Palin not being smart enough to be Vice-President (we had a long talk about that one).

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust
  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Priceless!!!

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Troll alert! The McCain story is an urban legend and if he treated his first wife so horribly, why does she support him with his bumper sticker on his car?

    Don’t try to deflect attention away from Obama’s misogynist supporters by trying to pin blame on McCain. Last I checked, the only guy in this election who had the balls to choose a strong woman candidate who might eclipse him was McCain, not Obama.

  • AnninCA

    Ditto for me, a bit older, but in the same strain. My son clearly admires me. I am his hero. And it conflicts with his generation. His girlfriends are pushing for the stay-at-home-raise-the-kids model.

    *hehe

    I just sit back and laugh.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I have never been called the c-word thankfully. I have had other experiences, however, that I won’t even get into here. Why give airtime to sexist assholes.

  • Susan

    “If heroism is defined by physical suffering, Carol McCain is every bit her ex-husband’s equal. Driving alone on Christmas Eve 1969, she skidded out on a patch of ice and crashed into a telephone pole. She would spend six months in the hospital and undergo 23 surgeries. The former model McCain bragged of to his buddies in the POW camp as his “long tall Sally” was now five inches shorter and walked with crutches.

    By any standard, McCain treated her contemptibly. Whatever his dreams of getting laid in Rio, he got plenty of ass during his command post in Jacksonville. According to biographer Robert Timberg, McCain seduced his conquests on off-duty cross-country flights — even though adultery is a court-martial offense. He was also rumored to be romantically involved with a number of his subordinates.

    In the spring of 1979, while conducting official business for the Navy, the still-married McCain encountered Cindy Lou Hensley, a willowy former cheerleader for USC. Mutually smitten, the two lied to each other about their ages. The 24-year-old Hensley became 27; the 42-year-old McCain became 38. For nearly a year the two carried on a cross-country romance while McCain was still living with Carol: Court documents filed with their divorce proceeding indicate that they “cohabitated as husband and wife” for the first nine months of the affair.

    McCain’s friends were blindsided by the divorce. The Reagans — with whom the couple had frequently dined and even accompanied on New Year’s holidays — never forgave him. By the time McCain became a self-proclaimed “foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution” two years later, he and the Gipper had little more than ideology to bind them. Nancy took Carol under her wing, giving her a job in the White House and treating McCain with a frosty formality that was evident even on the day last March when she endorsed his candidacy. “Ronnie and I always waited until everything was decided and then we endorsed,” she said. “Well, obviously, this is the nominee of the party.”

    During his 1992 campaign, at the end of a long day, McCain’s wife, Cindy, mussed his receding hair and needled him playfully that he was “getting a little thin up there.” McCain reportedly blew his top, cutting his wife down with the kind of language that had gotten him hauled into court as a high schooler: “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” Even though the incident was witnessed by three reporters, the McCain campaign denies it took place.”

    [Administrator: Susan, you need to provide a link or source. Thanks.]

  • brodie

    Good question. Many women I know are all for trashing Palin. I am a life-long feminist & my politics are very different from Palin’s, but I more than respect her guts, determination and drive to get where she has. I am appalled by the reaction to her. My friends are equally appalled by my lack of enthusiasm for their views. What a terrible year this has been. Great article, by the way. Some of my friends are so disappointed that I won’t vote for precious. They just don’t get it at all. I can only assume that they know virtually nothing about him and have all drunk waaay too much of the hopey-changey kool-aid for their or our own good.

  • lisa in va

    Well, since we are going back 30 years, can you please explain why Obama has not released any of his college records?

    Come one, I betcha could come up with one reason?

  • Anon21

    [EDITED OUT]

    This place is ludicrous. I don’t know why I keep coming back here. [Administrator: Then don't return.]

  • KathyNeocon

    My friends are unfortunately hooked on the same brand of Kool-aid. Things are strained at the moment.

  • KathyNeocon

    My, my, my–the trolls sure are riled up today.

  • Susan

    Does he have to? What could they say? What courses he took and what his marks were? I am sure he took courses in socialism and how to be a good terriorist?

    What about McCain and Palin’s medical records? A little more important no! McCain released all 1,200 pages for only 3 hrs. McCain has had cancer 4 times.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Unless Oblockhead has something to hide, he shouldn’t mind releasing all pertinent documents relating to his health and qualifications to be POTUS. After all, he wants us to hire him. As his potential employer, I have the right to ask. And you don’t have the right to tell me otherwise.

  • caringnurse1

    Joan.. Great post. TY,

  • Ferd McBerfle

    They sure are–they see the end of the charade is near. Poor obamalobotobots–they’ll be back to their old jobs panhandling before you can say buh-bye.

  • AnninCA

    Oh please, ferd…….give it up.

    Nobody but the fringe is demanding his birth certificate.

    Sorry, but you guys have lost that one.

    Nobody cares about his health, his grades in school or even his early connections.

    What they DO care about is his snide attitude towards Joe the Plumber.

    Get on board. Get off the fringe group.

    Get on board the campaign.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Riled up an spreading myths about a two great Americans, Mac and Palin.

  • HT

    Canada had a female PM, for a short time, granted, but she was PM. Perhaps you should check out your historical knowledge before spouting your less than accurate knowledge.

  • sayitisntso

    http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/

    The above is an excellent article written this week. It is lengthy, but worth reading. McCain and Palin are going to win this. You betcha.

  • Alice Paul WPB

    Probably because you would see Khalid Mansour’s letter of recommendation to Harvard and how Obama paid for his admission!

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I really don’t give a crap what McCain did in his 30s or even early 40s. I am dating that age range of men right now and most of them are pretty dense and immature when it comes to women (sorry, guys). McCain had the added burden of being locked up in a prison for 5 years – most men I know would have gone a little nuts with women after being released from that sort of hell.

    It also has no bearing whatsoever on McCain’s ability to be president. Nor does it mean that he is a misogynist who HATES women. Just because someone cheats doesn’t mean they are a sexist – those are two different issues entirely. I know women who cheat on their men – does that make them manhaters?

    Bottom line: You are comparing apples to oranges here.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Nobody but the fringe is demanding his birth certificate.

    I want to see it and I am hardly fringe.

    Its a legitimate concern to be balanced with other concerns.

  • meileen

    No it’s not going to turn into a female pity party anymore than you will turn into an intelligent, caring human being. And I use the term ‘human’ loosely.

  • Susan1968

    Joan’s piece also struck me deeply. It inspires me to share a personal story that actually interweaves with all the current issues.

    I was born and raised in Queens, NY, took the subways by myself as a young teenage girl. No problems. But it wasn’t till I got my first, post college job in Manhattan, that I had to travel from Queens during rush hour.

    Packed literally like sardines, it wasn’t always clear to me when a man was groping or if it was just the fact we were all squashed together like cattle.

    One such morning, I felt a man behind me, literally breathing on my neck, in a packed-tight subway car.

    Considering the rocking of the car as the train accelerated, I wasn’t sure if this (white) businessman was intentionally grinding against me because he would stop each time the train pulled into a station. But the rubbing would begin again when the car moved.

    Caught between horror and yet still trying to give the benefit of the doubt to this guy, I must have looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

    Suddenly, as the train was pulling into yet another station, a different man’s hand reached over my shoulder to grab the businessman by the collar.

    It was the hand of an African-American man. He had a good grip on the guy and said to him:

    “You’re a disgrace, you pervert – get off the damn train.” The businessman indeed scurried off.

    Then this true hero said to me, “Next time you even suspect a man is doing that to you don’t ever keep silent. Stand up for yourself.” Of course he was right, I was foolish, scared.

    I thanked him and as I looked at the other men watching us I realized ALL of them had known what the businessman was doing to me.

    But only this man took action. This African American man who, considering this happened in the late 70s, could have easily chosen to let the white men step forward to help this naive white girl.

    Who knows — maybe he did wait a couple of stops but when he saw no other man on the train had the will to do the right thing — he did the right thing.

    Because to him it wasn’t about race. It was about good men not letting abusive men take advantage women.

    All my experiences with African American men (and women) — from teachers, to neighbors, to my Dad’s NYPD squad car partner who considered family, to good samaritans like the man on the subway — have all been positive.

    And once an African American coworker said to me, “I have to say you’re one of the few color-blind people I’ve met in my life.”

    This is why I find it patently ridiculous to call anyone who questions anything about Obama a racist.

    I can honestly say — if Obama was a white man I’d still have the same objections about his thin resume and the enigmatic quality of everything he says.

    He’s like quicksilver — and he gives me the feeling I don’t really know who he is at all.

    I feel he is playing a role, or perhaps he’s an Axelrod-created spokesperson for the “Hope-Change Brand.”

    But as everyone woman knows — men we meet who seem to be too good to be true never are.

    Maybe, just maybe — if Obama had the character to speak out against the “Sarah Palin is A Cunt” and “Bros Before Hos” tee-shirts that his supporters wear at his rallies. Or, if he could bring himself to speak out against the character assasination of Joe The Plumber by the press. Maybe I’d get a better idea of who he really is.

    But right now Obama’s silence on these things appears to constitute agreement.

    Character can be assessed by your choices and actions — much like the character of the African American Man on the subway who did the right thing so many years ago.

  • Zee

    Cool, benny. It’s very cool to acknowledge that.

    I used to go to a poetry reading in a quiet town once a month. You had to park across the street in a lot behind a building. One time, I went with a male friend and he drove.

    He just zipped in and parked next to a van and hopped out. I looked at him in wonderment and shook my head.

    I told him no woman in the world would do what he just did….park next to a van at night in a remote area. When I would park there by myself, I would park away from every other vehicle and look all around before exiting the car.

    Guys usually have no clue that they have no clue, so I applaud your acknowledgment.

  • meileen

    “But if Clinton had voted against the Iraq War, she’d be headed for the Oval Office now instead of Obama.”

    So tired of this rhetoric. If it’s truly the case, then why would the O campaign and the in the tank media be boastting of Powell’s endorsement? Anyone with half a brain knows the primary was handed to Obama by the party elite, that Clinton did not ‘lose’ it.

    You O supporters speak out of both sides of your mouths. You took good notes from your leader, I’ll grant you that much.

  • Susan

    McCain wanted Liberman or Ridge and the Palin pick was pushed on him by the base, otherwise a floor fight would have insued at the convention.

    I am afraid McCain was a womanizer well before he went to Vietnam. That was his reputation. Go read some history. He does not dispute it.

    McCain in his personal life has not had a whole lot of respect for women. Sure, I bet he has changed. That is a good thing. However, he has not done a whole lot to support women in all his years in govenment.

    The point is that this whole issue that Obama is some how a sexist guy and McCain is a choir boy is a bit of a stretch.

    This kind of garbage is what is hurting the party. Focus on what is important. What people actually care about.

  • Anon21

    Yeah, you’re right. I put it in there, went to check, discovered it was wrong, and failed to pull it back out. My mistake. Still, I was off by four fewer countries at the least than the original post.

  • Cahil

    Very nice article, Joan.

    Speaking as a man, I don’t truly believe Obumble has any respect for himself, is a closet homosexual, and therefore, in order to prove his manliness, puts down other homosexuals and women.

    Why else would you think that after beating Hillary in an early primary it was ok to enter to the tune of “I’ve Got 99 Problems But A Bitch Ain’t One”?

    Why else would you think it ok to flip Hillary the bird or brush her off your shoulders like so much lint?

    Why else would you allow someone to yell “Iron my shirt” to a fellow Senator and remain silent, when you would be the first to scream racism had they said to you “Shine my Shoes”?

    Why else would you allow your presidential website to advertise t-shirts that say “Bro’s before Ho’s”?

    Why would you not speak up against any of this lest you hated women, disrespect women, or consider yourself to be “weak” like a woman and therefore hate yourself?

    The only other answer would simply be that you yourself are one reprehensible human being.

  • meileen

    Thanks for a great post Joan. Please ignore the trolls that love to distract.

  • sayitisntso

    Susan,

    War is hell and McCain has been to hell and back, better to fight against the creeping socialist/communist inside job attempting to take over the US.

    He knows what the real threats are to this country from an unknown and rabid candidate. Just because people like you take their freedom for granted, doesn’t mean McCain isn’t going to spend his last years keeping the dogs of war leashed. So sleep and dream, the rest of us know that it is a scary time.

    I suppose you are one of the ones who would kiss Castro with him while he takes hard working people’s money and gives it to the poor so they can continue to hate America with their hands out.

    Thanks for listening.

  • Zee

    Whoa…well fucking put.

  • obama is ruining my life

    Listening to British Wahabists describe the place of women, a cleric said that women are inferior “no matter if she has a Ph.D.”
    I think that belief system is Obama’s.

    I know that in terms of who we actually are from the template of DNA on up, females are actually –more– than males in the sense that deletions occur in the DNA to make a male a male. Also females contribute mitochondrial DNA solely, so the mother actually contributes more than the father to the baby. Females have different brain capacities, not lesser; for example their math analytical skills may vary but their intuitive skills exceed those of males in general, meaning they can draw from multiple informational aspects simultaneously to make a conclusion. Females are the delimiter to populations thus they are spared in war.
    I retreat to these analysis because I struggle to find what basis this false superiority is founded upon. I think that it inevitably emanates from fear surrounding sexuality, that without totalitarian domination males would have to have merits they may know they lack. And so they bolster one another’s brutishness.
    If I saw a vacuum cleaner commercial catering to a man I think I’d faint.
    I once had an older boyfriend, a Navy Captain who called various male adversaries the C word. I was younger and laughed, not that I thought it was funny but it was shock-jock humor, in the “OMG” category. Eventually I inquired to the effect that he certainly loved my “C” (very much) so why was this a derogatory word. A perplexed look of shame and “ah, busted” came over him. For a while when he was tempted to use the word in describing an adversary I’d force him to find a descriptive vocabulary word. He said that was more appropriate but honestly less impactful. Now, much later, I am angry and hurt that he used that around me, but I know it’s a method to keep females in their place and it cannot be tolerated. At least I stood up to him. I never had as much respect for him ever again. He was a forceful individual and didn’t need that word in his lexicon at all.
    I personally was called that by a flooring man when I opted for a better bid; I told him I was glad that I didn’t hire him because he was mentally unstable obviously. He was speechless.
    Males need to own that word, they know it is awful, and they need to know we don’t fear it but we see them as scared insecure nutcases when they use it…because that’s the truth of the matter.

  • Walter M. Clark

    My Mother was the stronger, more intelligent of my parents. She is the daughter of an Arkansas share-cropper (white) who, with a high school education, started in a county public educational administration department as data entry clerk and retired from there 31-1/2 years later as a director, the third level below superintendent. She was the on director without a college degree and the others all had at least masters degrees. Her job description was written specially for her so she could be director based on her years of experience and didn’t need college degrees. There was some talk when she was promoted into that position that she didn’t deserve it and the superintendent (male) called a meeting and told everyone she had EARNED it.

    I (male) also worked in public education and have since retired, too. I’ve had good, fair and poor bosses, male and female, but I have to say the absolute two worst bosses I had were both short men. Petty, vindictive, judgmental and vulgar don’t even start to describe them.

    Yes, I’ve seen bosses who put down women, talked down to them and insulted them, but whenever I had the opportunity I’d stand up to them. Not bragging, just stating. I’ve been blessed that the best boss and the two best assistants I ever had were women.

    I am so angry/terrified that the Obama bin Biden odd couple will be elected. I don’t THINK they will, but if so, God help this wonderful country. The United States of America isn’t perfect, but if you look around you won’t find very many other countries with so many struggling desperately to get in.

    Walter M. Clark

  • Zee

    I know the solution to SHARIA law bullshit.

    Start our own “religion” — very simple. Instead of draping women to “protect” them we form a cult which believes a rapist should have his penis chopped off.

    Let’s get real— talk about deterrent. How many rapes would be stopped if the absolutely just penalty was chopping the penis off?

    If they are going to drape and stone women, why not mutilate men?

  • Walter M. Clark

    I find it interesting that the main slime media isn’t giving much attention to the fact that McCain’s Senatorial Staff has more women in the top 20 than Obama’s, and in on average McCain pays his women staffers higher than Obama. So tell me which potential President would be more willing to listen to the views and needs of women?

    Walter M. Clark

  • wodiej

    thank you for the positive story….

  • sayitisntso

    Anon21

    from your comment: “…. France. And Japan. And Italy. And Canada. And Spain….”, all countries who take our assistance and then return the favor with hatred and venom toward what the only purpose of government is and that is to protect it’s citizens.

    Don’t ask what gender Europeans chose, ask how impotent their governments are because of socialism.

    One last thing, you didn’t mention non-western countries such as “Pokeistan”, for one, where a woman may be head of state, but only because she is a member of a certain dynasty of ruling families in the past.

    Comparisons just don’t work for you on this topic. Please excuse yourself! Nobody here cares.

  • Susan

    I just hate to see the Republican party go down like this.

    So much anger, a smaller tent, such petty issues…

    We are better than this. Fight on the issues that people actually care about. Fight as you suggest on foreign policy differences. Calling Obama sexist does nothing, especially when McCain has no steller record himself with women is a waste of time.

    I think McCain would rather go down with honor than this BS. As McCain said Obama is an honorable man, we just have differences on policy.

    I know you guys have your own reasons for hating the Democratic party, but the blind hatred is doing no one any good.

    As an economic Republican I am furious with the way my party has acted over the last 8 years, but I am not going to sit here a ndworry about this petty stuff. Fight on tax policy (although given the deficits even McCain would eventually have to raise taxes), fight on jobs, fight on foreign affairs… give people a reason to vote for McCain, not just a reason not to vote for Obama.

  • obama is ruining my life

    Well, I prefer “Barack is a C-NT”
    like a WB cartoon where the shotgun is bent back on Elmer Fudd.

  • Susan
  • wodiej

    alrightie then!! haha

  • Northwest rain

    I think it was Cleaver who raped white women — just because they where white women and wrote about it in his book.

    Also there is an article by woman about her experience with Ayers — He refused to let her out of the room until she had sex with his room mate — when she objected — Ayers called her racist. (The room mate happened to be black). Ayers also insisted that she have sex with his brother — but the brother couldn’t do it — so she was at last released. This was a major traumatic event in this young woman’s life — you could feel the hurt, humiliation and anger from this encounter is still with this woman today. It is the powerlessness — the less than human treatment that she received from Ayers so long ago — and fast forward to Ayers today trying to be the patron saint of students. (Mostly male students I suspect — because women are less than humans to him.)

    So Ayers was a vile pig when he was in college — and I doubt very much that his attitude has changed much at all.

    The Anti-war male leaders of the Vietnam era were extremely sexist — nasty creeps.

    I’m voting for Palin — because she has gone through the Female Rites of Passage and she calls herself a Feminist.

    For Colon Bowel — his criteria is vote for Obama because he has a penis and he is one of the boys.

    Perhaps the stupid little girls who wear the nasty t-shirts really just have penis envy???

  • Anon22

    [Administrator: Then don’t return.]

    Oh, I’ll return on Nov. 4th to catch up with you guys. If you can find the edit button through your tears, maybe you can crop out some more factual corrections then.

    Btw, IP bans are very 20th century. Pretty useless in the here and now. Just trying to help you kids out!

  • Anon22

    Are we playing the “Obama is responsible for anything any black person says” game again, or did Stokely Carmichael and Eldridge Cleaver suddenly become Obama associates?

  • obama is ruining my life

    idiotic robots that is…

    Come on!
    We saw through that didn’t we? The aggravatingly slow speech. My DOG literally would bark at the TV, she was saying (because I know my Bichon so well) “STFU!” I always turned the channel as he descended into his predictable 8-10 word chunks with a pause. pffft, ass, I swear I hate people who THINK they’re smarter than the rest of the room when in actuality they’re not.

  • BernieO

    NO kidding! I was at a neighborhood party last weekend, One woman was asked one of the guys where he went running. He recommended a park with wooded trails and was very dismissive when she expressed concerns about safety. I agreed with her that no woman should be going there alone unless there were a lot of people around, and he just scoffed. This is a man with two young daughters!

    Women live with an awareness of vulnerability that most guys just don’t understand. I recently had to have a serious talk with my son when he acted like I was crazy to worry about such things because I am not young (late 50′s)/. He was shocked when I told him about a friend who still has serious physical and mental issues as the result of an assault at about my age. I do not live in fear, but I am definitely aware of the potential of danger.

  • obama is ruining my life

    They’re always boasting their ilk represent the most highly educated groups. Yeah, washed up hippie liberal professors maybe.
    I think that’s cover for the fact that 0bama’s base predominantly emanates from the left side of the bell curve.

  • Alice Paul WPB
  • obama is ruining my life

    I think he’s lain waste to stable democratic elections forever.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Rolling Stone – in the tank for Obama. Not a credible source, sorry.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    First off, don’t tell me what I should or should not care about.

    Second, this issue to me is not whether Obama or McCain are sexist. The issue is that stupid young women are hurting themselves and other women by printing “Sarah Palin is a C*nt” t-shirts.

    Third, once again I will suggest that a guy who likes to have sex with a lot of women is not necessarily a woman hater. It does not mean he wants to see women paid less or at home in the kitchen or raped or other horrible things.

    A guy who likes to have sex with lots of women is a guy who has a big sex drive. And if you’re going to bring up McCain’s sex life BEFORE Vietnam – i.e., when he was freakin’ 20 years old or whatever – well, if you were in person I would laugh in your face. What a NON-ISSUE!

    The bottom line is that McCain has a positive professional record on women TODAY, when it counts – that means, he pays the women on his staff better than Obama does, and he took on Palin as a running mate. I heard McCain tell Palin what a great job she did after her speech. He was damn proud of her. This is not a man who hates women or disrespects them in any way.

    If you really cared about focusing on what’s important, you wouldn’t be here commenting on this thread trying to convince everyone what a woman-hating misogynist McCain supposedly is because he happened to like sex as a young man. You’re here with an agenda. Obviously.

  • sayitisntso

    Breaking news on Fox:

    http://www.foxnews.com/ Prove BHO knew Ayers. Credit to zombie, the genius.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Oh, Gloria spoke up alright, but just to say all she shares with someone like Palin is being female, and that’s it. Eve Ensler was even worse. And that’s just it, as the question was asked above: where the hell is NOW? Emily’s List? NARAL? Yeah, riding on Obama’s coattails, that’s where.

    Joan, thank you for this extremely POWERFUL piece – wow. And, thank you to all of you who are speaking out, with your stories, and against this misogyny. You are amazing!

  • shannon

    I couldn’t agree more. In these situations we must throw it back at them and rub their noses in it.

    I was 18 the first, and only, time I was called the C word. It was at the enlisted club in Meridian Mississippi. Some guy there thought I wasn’t paying enough attention to him, leaned over and whispered it in my ear. Unfortunately for him I had drank the perfect amount of courage. I broke his nose. The MP’s almost arrested me, but let me go when they found out what the guy had called me.

  • http://noquarters foxyladi14

    beautiful

  • obama is ruining my life

    and today Biden says he’s just going to get “tested” by our enemies and not to expect anything great

    he says in a year you’ll be perplexed at his low approval ratings, that emanate from having to make some highly unpopular decisions …

    wow, like who is really surprised he’s planning to screw us and we won’t like it?

  • Amalia

    oh, as opposed to a male pity party which we see, oh, everywhere?

  • http://! mary

    Great post! Tells it like it is!

    Obama’s camouflaged misogyny was there for all to see in N.C. day after his pathetic Pa. ABC debate when he went on stage and performed his disgusting JayC rapper-wannabe act (“Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” yutube megahit) dusting and scraping off his fellow female senator Hillary as if she were….excrement and giving her his dainty midfinger in a flip-off-scratch!

    “Periodically, HIllary feels down and starts launching attacks against me to boost her appeal…” said the anorexic resume with the narcissistic personality disorder known as Barry Hussein Obamarama. the man who donated a million bucks in Kenya to support his Sharia Law islamist cousin Odinga 2 years ago! The BBC and CBC wrote about it. Why was this support for a woman-hater billionaire slumlord (Odinga) not picked up by the (Oba)media?

    Shame on Barry for shutting his big mouth during Hillary-bashing and Sara-bashing by his thuggish Chicago political sewer rats…and this piece of skinny pig sexist resume wants to be president….gimme a break!

    WOMEN VOTING FOR OBAMA SHOULD NOT FORGET TO SEND MONEY TO HIS COUSIN ODINGA IN KENYA TO ASSIST IN PROMOTING HIS SHARIA LAW AGENDA. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED…..

  • obama is ruining my life

    lol how many angles did they brainstorm in Gaza?
    “We really underestimate this guy. He is in control of every thing.
    Every time , he got in problem, he has some one else to come and roll out for him. ”

    ooooh, the great and mighty fcking Oz hisself…oooh!

    ‘bama sharmootas

  • Amalia

    um, no, we are recalling the history of the movement, you know, the movement where “the position of women in this movement is
    prone.” all those progressive anti-war folks. NOT! but to which we should add Ayers and the rape of the woman he dated. but then, you probably don’t see that one either.

  • obama is ruining my life

    Come here and let me rip your nads off and then we’ll see if you pity yourself for saying that.

  • http://! mary

    SWPAnnA

    You’re truly remarkable! I was going to remark on this, too! The sexist piggie called Obama did indeed take it back by slapping Bernie Crude Mack on the back and almost apologizing for having caught his misogynist statement:

    “All mothers and sisters are Family ‘Hos!”

    Now, that should make a nice Tshirt for Obama supporters, eh?

    “ALL MOTHERS AND SISTERS ARE JUST FAMILY ‘HOS”

    approved by the Obama Campaign*

    Then we can issue a Tshirt of REV. WRIGHT DOING HIS WILD GYRATING SEXUAL SIMULATION (“Bill loves us like he does Monica”)ACT ON THE PULPIT WITH OBAMA’S YOUNG GIRLS WATCHING (guess that’s how Mr. and Mrs. Obama teach SEX EDUCATION to their 2 young little girls. SHAME ON THESE UNFIT PARENTS TO ALLOW THEIR 2 GIRLS TO WITNESS THE PROFANITY OF THE TRINITY PULPIT!!!!

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Bitches get things done.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    benny, now that you’ve read it, you do know.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    If I were married to one of these Obama pigs I would kill him in his sleep.

  • obama is ruining my life

    I agree, he’s so loaded down with psychopathies in his Samsonites it’s not funny. He never has been funny.

  • http://! mary

    From 2000 to 2006 there were approximately 4,500 soldiers and law enforcemen personnel who died from ‘hostile fire’.
    During same period 8,100 women were dead as result of ‘domestic abuse’ and another hundred thousand who were injured either mentally or physically by their ‘INTIMATE PARTNERS’….

    Does this give you some perspective on John Lennon’s 1970 controversial song:

    WOMAN IS THE NIGGER OF THE WORLD….

    And Soetoro-Obama is the last guy in the world to acknowledge this War AGainst Women (Canadian writer Vallee’s eponymous book), this carnage, while his thugs are actively promoting it be it in Kenya or the good ole U.S. of KKK A.

    For Barry, like for Bernie Mac, may he rest in hell, “mothers and sistahs are just family ‘hos”!

  • obarfa

    We don’t think having multiple citizenships makes him worldly like bots do, we think it’s national security suicide…oh, and we do value the constitution. Obviously barky and his hypnotized drones do not.

  • Anon22

    And the Black Panther movement is Obama’s movement…how, exactly? You can goalpost-shift to Ayers, I s’pose, and I’m not going to bother running down whatever daft lie you’ve come up with this time, but it’d still be nice if formerlydem could somehow justify using Cleaver’s and Carmichael’s words against Obama on any grounds other than that all three men have approximately the same skin tone.

  • http://! michele proude

    I think we should print these Tshirts:

    OBAMA’S MAMA DIDN’T GET NO CHANCE…BIRTH CONTROL HIT THE MARKET 4 YEARS AFTER HER MISCARRIAGE!

    OBAMA’S A SEXIST PIGGOFANIGGER

  • obarfa

    barky has a black panther page on his website
    barky got funding via black panther khalid al mansour
    a cut apple forms melanin big fcking whoopteedoo

    MLK, sorry, this was not the postracial world you envisioned

  • http://! michele proude

    Soldier-4-Hillary

    It’s not amazing anymore to me that you would have suffered this disgusting abuse in the Obama blogosphere. These fools share their vile sexism and misogyny and the younger girls are too eager to please their young ‘masters’ it seems. I”t’s the Stockholm Syndrome where you adapt and adopt to your Torturers’ way of doing things.

    I always admire your writings as I find them more intelligent and insightful. You should write a book about your experiences in this pre-and-post-Election time….
    All the best and the best of the health to you and your family should be really proud of you…Keep the Faith and let’s hope Hillary runs in 2012!

    PUMAS SOLDIER ON!

    McCain made the RIGHT choice!

  • Susan1968

    There is only one source for the McCain quote you offered.

    His name is:Cliff Schecter

    Everyone keeps repeating the unsubstantiated claim by this one giy as if it were fact.

    He included this quote in his book and claimed journalists heard McCain say it.

    Yet in all these years not ONE journalist confirms his claim.

    In a court of law, one person claiming to have heard something is called: hearsay.

  • http://! mary

    Shhilo babe,

    No, this ain’t no ‘Pity Party’ Sweetie. Guess you didn’t go as far in political theory but, shucks, ah thought ya knew ’bout the Political bein’ just Personal, eh?

    Now, Sweetie, GET OVER IT!

  • Anon22

    barky has a black panther page on his website

    Either you’re lying, or you mean that some of his supporters have used the social networking tool on his website, which he does not control, to set up a page dedicated to Black Panthers for Obama. This is preposterously weak guilt-by-association you’re pushing here, I really expected better of this site.

    barky got funding via black panther khalid al mansour

    A Google search of that name returns no hits except from wingnut sites like WorldNetDaily and NewsMax. Reliably source that claim and I’ll consider it. Oh wait! You can’t, because it’s false.

    a cut apple forms melanin big fcking whoopteedoo

    Still waiting for someone to present evidence of an Obama-Black Panther connection. Still waiting for someone to rebut the rather obvious hypothesis that formerlydem’s post is nothing more than guilt by racial association.

  • http://! mary

    HT

    Does this song remind you of anything more recent…

    John Lennon’s 1971 hit:

    ‘WOMAN IS THE NIGGER OF THE WORLD’

  • Ani

    Joan,

    Beautiful powerful post. Well Stated.

    Thank you for this.

  • Ciardha

    Susan is doing the troll tactic of diverting the comment thread from it’s real point- the misogyny women experience in general, and how Obama, the Obama campaign, and his backers- including young women have attacked first Hillary and her female backers with the ugliest misogynist language, and how they are now using it against Sarah Palin (oh and as a McKinney supporter I can tell you the Obots are calling her the c word too. McKinney is a threat to Obama because the strongest liberal supporters (especially the women) of Hillary are supporting the Green Party. We will not vote for Obama either because of his and his campaign’s gross misogyny against Hillary and her female supporters. Not one even minimal apology for their appalling behavior either. Obama lost Democratic voters all over the political spectrum. They aren’t asking in these polls if anyone is voting Green Party, and I personally know several women beside myself are. Ignoring the percentage of Dem voters that will be now voting Green, makes any poll invalid.

  • elise

    Silence give consent, Mary. He “approved the message” and actively encouraged the attacks. Thank you for this amazing post, Joan. Every word is true. Isn’t it crazy how we have accepted so much verbal abuse? It is so damaging and, often, not even recognized for what it is. Over a period of time, a woman loses confidence in herself and her self esteem making it more difficult to fight back. She can marry a man with no more intelligence or education than she, but find herself in a situation where she has turned over ever major decision affecting her life to someone else because she has been told, or it has been implied, that she is incapable of accepting the responsibility. It’s less obvious than physical abuse, but it is insidious and more easily tolerated for that reason.

  • Mr. Natural

    Obama THRIVES on his supporters’ outrageous actions and comments, especially those from the “fringe element”.

    Every day brings new false outrage.

    Reading Biden’s comments makes me wonder if they’re planning a twenty-first century Reichstag Fire, so they can turn all those hidden presidential super-powers into the real deal.

    Then maybe Obama can have a throne made. And a crown. Kings gots to have a crown.

  • Mr. Natural

    Still waiting for you to say anything we give a damn about.

  • elise

    Would you, Susan, please provide links and sources?
    “It is rumored” or “It has been reported” isn’t proof.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    beautifully written!
    And speaking of Just Say No Deal,
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/facebook-cleanses-obama-oposition-will-bower-deleted
    needs to be disseminated fast, while we still have the means to be on the internet.(Google comes to mind)

  • Susan

    No, I am just making the point that if you are going to call Obama sexist you cannot forget about McCain’s own behavior. End of the day this is a non-issue. I am also making the point that this 100% negativity is the reason the party is losing the election. This is not the best direction for the Republican party. It just turns people off, including myself. I am in Mike Murphy’s camp (he ran McCain’s 2000 campaign and got Schwartzenager elected), who I recently attended a speaking engagement with, that the McCain campaign is pretty much a disaster. 100% negative and Palin were a mistake. This was a change election that was focused on the independents. Palin does not appeal to the independents only to the base and the focus on constant negativity turns off independents.

  • Susan

    i am sorry you are so narrow. you should read everthing and anything and then form your views. It is a fact that McCain cheated on his wife then dumped her. It is a fact that the Reagans were close to his ex-wife and their relationship with McCain was never the same. It is a fact that McCain has always been a party boy and womanizer. In fact, he is still a heavy gambler. He may have not called his wife the C-word, but it would not surprise me given his temper, which plenty of republicans can verify.

  • Rocky

    wOcl74E8W4xFa

  • beebop

    Ali Patel:

    You have been reported to the moderator. We won’te be seeing you and your slobber again …. buh-bye bigot.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Cleanup on aisles 1,2,3,4,5, and 6.

  • Bono

    Who cuts your hair, asswipe?

    You are banned for this and another comment so odious and hate-filled it cannot be printed here. Go spread your filth in some dark hole somewhere, and go find a real minister and confess your thoughts to him or her, and pray for forgiveness. – Administrator.

  • Katmoon

    Thanks Beebop, I was trying to get some help on this too!

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