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Is Our Director Of Intelligence Really This Clueless?

As you may have heard by now, the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, announced at a House Intelligence Committee hearing Thursday that the Muslim Brotherhood wasn’t all that, they were basically a secular group who hadn’t a violent bone in their body. Okay, maybe not THAT bad, but close enough. See for yourself:



Just as a little reminder (and h/t to Allahpundit at Hot Air from the reminder), this was James Clapper’s response to a question from Diane Sawyer about a major, major bust in London of 12 in an anti-terrorism sting:

“Huh? Say what? London?” Holy cow, does this guy not watch the news or something? How could the Director of National Intelligence not know something of this magnitude? It was a bit telling that the other gentleman tried to cover for him. Wow.

Larry Johnson had a great post about the Director of “Clap On, Clap Off” Intelligence, “Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest: The Obama Security Team.” I think the title says it all.

As Allahpundit pointed out, the Washington Post had a piece by a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Abdel Moneim Abou el-Fotouh (which is kind of screwed up of the Post from the get-go, if you think about it), as an apology for the Muslim Brotherhood, and how it really is a peaceful organization, “blah, blah, blah, ignore all of our writings, our website, our threats to destroy the United States from within, and our connections to organizations like Hamas, blah, blah blah, because we really aren’t that bad. No, really…” So, don’t be alarmed when you read statements like the following:

[snip] Because we are an Islamic movement and the vast majority of Egypt is Muslim, some will raise the issue of sharia law. While this is not on anyone’s immediate agenda, it is instructive to note that the concept of governance based on sharia is not a theocracy for Sunnis since we have no centralized clergy in Islam. For us, Islam is a way of life adhered to by one-fifth of the world’s population. Sharia is a means whereby justice is implemented, life is nurtured, the common welfare is provided for, and liberty and property are safeguarded. In any event, any transition to a sharia-based system will have to garner a consensus in Egyptian society. (Emphasis mine.)[snip] (Click here to read the rest of the apology.)

So, um, tell me again how that is a “secular” mindset, Director Clap Off?

No wonder FBI Director Robert Mueller tried to set the record straight on Clapped Off’s comments on the Muslim Brotherhood. Mueller testified that, uh, yeah, they do have some violent branches which “have supported terrorism,” and the rest of what he had to say about them would be in private chambers, thank you so much.

Wow. How is it that this man is so off-base? How could he be so unaware of statements by the Muslim Brotherhood? As one astute NQ reader, oowawa, queried, does he not get that the fact “Muslim” is part of the name, automatically means it is religious in nature?

Yep, Larry had it right: “Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest.” Maybe Intelligence Clapped Off Director should take a little look-see at The Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report so that the next time has is asked about the Brotherhood, he doesn’t make a complete ass of himself.

  • JohnWSmart

    I knew as soon as I heard this remarks that clapper was in hot water. many many people will have a field day with this. 
    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/mubarak-out/

  • helenk

    backtrack to meet with national intelligence people today over Egypt.

    Oil price raising almost a $1.oo a barrel since speech.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALIST AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • JimTicehurst

    Such as Anticipating Also..That Mubarek could be Killed by members of his own Securirty Forces or Military Like Anwar sadat Was..?
    “Who Could have Anticipated..”  Moment..?

  • jrterrier

    love the “clap on, clap off” moniker.  he must have had a clap off moment when testifying today. 

    and as to today, MB op ed in the Wash Post, what caught my attention was the statement that sharia law was not on anyone’s IMMEDIATE agenda.  oh, ok.  so, is it on their 5-year plan? 

  • helenk

    Oh yeah this will quiet things down. What a dumb ass.

    http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/10/6026741-he-just-lit-the-final-fuse

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • JB in VA

    Yes.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    James Clapper, announced at a House Intelligence Committee hearing Thursday that the Muslim Brotherhood wasn’t all that, they were basically a secular group
    ================
    Wow, RRRA. Which part of the fact that the term Muslim is not a secular one did Claptrap completely fail to comprehend? These boneheads need remedial courses in English, as a minimum. On second thought, they should be fired for incompetence.

  • Hokma

    “Secular”, “Non-violent”  .  .  .  .  . I don’t think he is stupid. I think he is being deceptive and is part of the Obama team that is in favor of radical Islam and against Israel.

    Obama seems excited about the prospect of the Mulsim Brotherhood taking over Egypt while he was stone silent durng the Iran uprising to get rid of sharia law.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    I think Peter King should start his hearing by interviewing members of Obama’s foreign policy and national securty advisors.

    And, by the way, Hillary should find the right time to resign. It’s time to distance herself from this debacle that is not her doing.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    And, by the way, Hillary should find the right time to resign. It’s time to distance herself from this debacle that is not her doing.
    ==============
    And the sooner, the better.

  • FedUP

    OMG…the Muslim Brotherhood is anything but secular or non-violent.  Clapper is a real piece of work.  Everybody working for Obama walks around with their heads up their asses, totally oblivious to what is really going on around them or the obvious truth. 

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Yes, that richardweed might may as well have handed the demonstrators a few RPGs. Wow, some people do need to keep their stream of unconsciousness to themselves.

  • PssttCmere

    If they fired all the incompetents in obamaCo, then who would be left?

    Yes, that is the correct answer…..NO ONE!!!

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • Cindy

    Rev. Amy–Oh dear sweet Jeezus! This is unbelievable.
    The term “dumber then dirt” comes to mind.

    My dog Blue, whose two favorite things are sleeping and chasing houseflies, would make a better Director of Intelligence and provide better security for our nation than the Huey, Dewey and Louie interviewed by Sawyers…..in fact, that interview even made Sawyers  look smart!

    Thanks for the exceptional post……..and hope you’re feeling better!

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    If they fired all the incompetents in obamaCo, then who would be left?  
     
    Yes, that is the correct answer…..NO ONE!!!  
    ==============
    Sounds good to me, PssttCmere. When does the wholesale firing start? Oh, November 2012.

  • Madame deFarge

    I agree that they are spreading propaganda.  He doesn’t look like Goebels but he does remind me of him the way he tells us up is down and black is white (sorry about the racism).

  • helenk

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/10/obama-wrongfooted-mubarak-egypt

    One sentence in this article really got to me.
    America’s slow decline as a super power.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Puma.for.Life

    That’s what I don’t understand; why is no one asking Obie the difference between Iran and Egypt.  I thought we didn’t get involved in other countries.  Why do you think Obama supports Sharia law? What benefit is it to him?

  • Puma.for.Life

    What is Clapper’s background?  How did he get this job? Totally incompetent. Did congress approve his appointment?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Yeah, That One is being played like a cheap fiddle. The problem is that we’re forced to be a captive audience while he’s played. It’s all off-key.

  • helenk

    On twitter Elbaradi says Egypt will explode now. Calls on army to save the country

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yeah, no kidding, right?  What a crock.  They have been working recently to try and make themselves appear like they are “moderate.”  I heard someone say today – sorry, can’t remember who – so many talking heads on this subject – that yes, they have moderates as a way to try to pass (essentially).  But they cannot HELP but let out their true plans, like one of their spokespeople the other day said in a press conference – they want Islam as the way of the land. And that includes the “justice” – HUH?? – of Sharia Law.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Sorry, can’t wait for that.

    Impeach.  Impeach now.  Impeach often.

    Where the hell is the head of the Congress?  Start the proceedings.

    Dumb asses!  Beck almost lost his mind today.

    >:o

  • carol haka, Matzo

    They need to stay calm – even if they have to wait for elections.

    No one ever remembers the names of those who died in the name of freedom.  Live and blog about it later, Egyptians.  Don’t let them ask you to spill your blood for them.

    >:o

  • helenk

    http://pomed.org/blog/2011/02/egypt-update-vp-suleiman-speech-transcript.html/

    a rough translation of Suleiman’s speech

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Retired

    Pretty much every intelligence professional knows that Clapper is clueless.  It’s pretty amazing that someone of his ilk has risen so high in intelligence, but I guess this speaks to how highly political and admin skills, as opposed to intelligence skills, are valued by the system in choosing its intelligence leadership.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    It really is remarkable, isn’t it?  That Clapped off would say such a LUDICROUS thing even after Obama himself said something abt “strains” of the Brotherhood harboring anti-US intent (and even that was minimizing).  So, this guy testifies to the House Intelligence Committee that the MUSLIM Brotherhood is secular?  What the hell is he smoking? 

    Come to think of it, he did seem pretty out of it in that Diane Sawyer interview.  Ahem.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Butt, butt, butt … we’ve all been eating our veggies and shunning tater tots. Isn’t that what will save the world?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    They need to stay calm – even if they have to wait for elections.  
    ===================
    The problem is That Our feckless leader keeps insisting on inserting a hoof or two in his mouth concerning Egypt.

  • Puma.for.Life

    Fox just showed a result of a poll that shows that 50% of the American people approve of Obama’s handling egpt;  32% disapprove.  Talk about dumber than dirt; how  can anyone think he is handling this well? 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    And that’s just it, Puma.  If we had a real media, they WOULD ask why he was so silent in the face of the uprisings in a BRUTAL dictatorship, but nothing.

    Oh, I remember all too well how opposed people were to “regime change” in Iraq, again, under a brutal dictatorship (I was one of them).  But NOW, these same people are all FOR a “regime change” as a result of what can only be termed mob rule. The number of protesters is still a minute number of people compared to the number of people in Egypt.

    Who knew it was so easy to overthrow a government?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    ROTFLMAO – hey, I will support Blue in pursuit of that position.  I bet you $100 Blue would do a FAR better job than Claptrap!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I just saw that 46% of Americans think Obama has handled the Egypt thing well.  Huh?  He has backtracked, hemmed, hawed, demanded, walked back, WORMed, all over the place.  How can they “approve” of that???

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Amazingly, he actually has an impressive resume.  He is a retired Lt. Gen. from the Air Force, for starters.  Here is a link.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    It is telling, Retired.

    Along with that, have you caught the Assistant Deputy Director of the CIA, Stephanie O’Sullivan in her testimony on the Hill?  She is odd, IMHO.

  • Fred

    Given James Clapper’s background, I am astonished that he could honestly be so clueless. I find it almost unbelievable to be quite honest.

    Is the administration putting him up to statements like this?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I bet you $100 Blue would do a FAR better job than Claptrap!
    ================
    A cardboard cut-out of Clapper would do as good a job and the administration could place dozens of them around a big table and claim they really got something done.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Beats the hell out of me.  They aren’t paying attention.  Or else, all they hear is “Democracy!  The people want Democracy!” without looking closer, or without some critical thinking into Obama’s flipflops and machinations when it comes to Egypt.  It doesn’t help when WaPo has become a propaganda rag with the piece by Soros first, and now by this MB dude…

  • jrterrier

    you guys are just too impatient.  Clapper’s office has now issued a clarification of what he meant.  two for two.  every time Clapper speaks, they have to clarify.  so good to know that the Direrctor of National Intelligence is on top of things.   

    Jamie Smith, director of the office of public affairs for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence later said in a statement to ABC News: “To clarify Director Clapper’s point – in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under Mubarak’s rule, one that is largely secular in its orientation – he is well aware that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization.” 

  • jrterrier

    I don’t understand what is going on.  Now Paul Wolfowitz and Elliot Abrams also dumping on Mubarak.  Is there anyone who is just taking a step back, a deep breath, and saying that there is a constitution and no way to mount a credible election to start tomorrow?   

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    BREAKING NEWS: Claptrap’s office, via his spokesperson Jamie Smith, has issued a statement – 5 hrs after his ridiculous assertions abt the MB: To clarify Director Clapper’s point – in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under Mubarak’s rule, one that is largely secular inn its orientation. He is well aware that the Musliom Brotherhood is not a secular organization.”

    WTH?  Even that is ridiculous – the MB is OUTLAWED in Egypt precisely because it is NOT secular, and wants to impose its Islamic rule in Egypt and beyond. This just makes it WORSE.

    Dear goddess.  These people are scaring the shit out of me.

  • jrterrier

    on CNN at Tahir Square, two egyptians, who had been living in the USA for 16-years and have traveled to Egypt to stand with the demonstrators are being interviewed.  “Mubarak has to leave,” the say.  great.  WTF do they know about the situation in Egypt.  who else are the people demonstrating?   

  • Daisy Mae

    My trap doesn’t clap shut today reading all the claptrap about Clapper and Teh One Clueless.  Moi, Daisy, isn’t often nearly speechless. Today is trying my speechifying.

  • oowawa

    No!  We need our tater tots!  Dip them in ketchup (a proven vegetable), and they will sustain life for the hungry people, and help the poor Idaho farmers to keep their farms.  I wholeheartedly agree with the campaign slogan that Cindy suggested a few days ago: “A Tater in Every Tot!”

  • greenlantern

    Carol, you are so right on! We need to clear them all out down to the last one in this administration. HERE is where the coup needs to be! Leave Mubarak to do what he has to do. If Obie Won was not goading him into it every 20 minutes with another statement of how he is the king of the world, Mubarak would have stepped down already and installed the VP he appointed the first day of this circus.

    This is not an Egyptian revolution. There are mostly young male Muslims in Tahrir Square with their panties in a twist. Real Egyptians have gone back to their lives, if they were ever there in the first place, and want these brats to shut up. This is a ginned-up community organizer tantrum. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oops – jr, I see you beat me to it – sorry I didn’t see this! 

    As I said below, this statement to “clarify: is almost as stupid as the one Clapper initally made! 

    Does NO ONE in this Administration utilize logic and just a BIT of fact checking??

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Good question, jrterrier. 

    And now the panel (Wolfowitz, et al) are saying we aren’t really involved in what is going on in Egypt.

    HUH??  How abt Obama demanding Mubarak leave “yesterday”??  Though Elliott did say that we have very little street cred there.

  • greenlantern

    This is more of Elbaradi fulfilling his role of usefull idiot by claiming that the sky is falling. 

  • greenlantern

    Suleiman is the man who has kept the MB under control in Egypt all these years as their head of intel–must be a strong and smart guy.

  • Graywolf

    52% voted for Obozo.
    This only says that 6% got a clue;the rest are still out of it.

  • oowawa

    I couldn’t believe they dug up Wolfowitz again.  I hoped we’d seen the last of that character . . .

  • Cindy

    Portia—LOL ….that’s so funny!
    oowawa—thanks for the shout-out… and I must say:
    To be quoted by oowawa is the equivalent of being a novice comedian on the old Tonight Show and after your routine, having Johnny motion for you to come over and sit on the couch!

  • Graywolf

    Any bullshitter can get a good resume in the military/government.
    Organizations where “competence” is just a funny word.

  • Madame deFarge

    Quite so, R3A.  I say we get…oh, maybe half of Beck’s August crowd…and demand Dear Reader put his presidency where his big loud mouth is and acceed to our demands to step down NOW cause we’re sick to death of his brand of hopey changey BS.

  • Puma.for.Life

    Maybe he’s past his prime and ready for retirement.

  • Madame deFarge

    A classic W. O. R. M. occasion.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I couldn’t believe they dug up Wolfowitz again. 
    =============
    I do wish they would put that cadaver back in the ground, oowawa.

  • oowawa

    Chasing houseflies?

    Ya-ho Blue!  You good dog,  you . . .

    Thee One needed to get him a real fly-chasin’ dog like Old Blue, instead of that pure-bred critter he got . . .

  • helenk

    CNN reports a couple of thousand protesters arrived at the presidential palace.
    earlier reports said that troops and tanks had moved away from the palace.

  • greenlantern

    FREE HILLARY!

  • Madame deFarge

    They are responding to buzz words just as they did when they elected the incompetent.

  • Puma.for.Life

    What they are saying is that the Muslim Brotherhood is working through the current government, which is secular, so, Clapper’s conclusion is that they must be secular.  Whoa…this guy needs to go back to logic 101. Pathetic. I mean, even the explanation is pathetic.  He needs to retire and so does whoever wrote the explanationl

  • Puma.for.Life

    I think it is really scarey also.  And 50% of the American people approve. Now, that’s really really scarey.

  • helenk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfUfO9CgmY

    Crowd in front of Egyptian Army Northern Command in Alexandria

  • Madame deFarge

    What does Wolfowitz stand to gain by Mubarak’s ouster is my only thought.  I’ll never be able to get the image of him licking his dirty looking hair comb (greasy hair) in one of Moore’s films out of my mind…back when I watched that creep, MM.

  • helenk
  • Madame deFarge

    Maybe they should stay in Egypt.

  • greenlantern

    Krauthammer just showed up on Special Report in his tux unloading the same chicken-little crap. If you’re speaking for the cocktail party, what better way to dress to make that clear!

  • helenk

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/10/egypt-hosni-mubarak-resignation-rumours

    latest update from the guardian. so far they seem to be  right on the money

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    They are responding to buzz words just as they did when they elected the incompetent.
    ==============
    Like flies to crap–all a-buzz.

  • helenk

    egyptian crowds in front of TV station

    http://bambuser.com/channel/RamyRaoof/broadcast/1404332

  • oowawa

    “The big shame and embarrassment, which I have not done and never will do, would be listening to foreign dictations whatever may be the source or pretext.”

    Gee, I wonder whom he was thinking of?  I think that Thee-One’s chin was not sufficiently tilted upwards when he informed Mubarak what was “unacceptable.”   Next time, when He tells him what is “totally unacceptable,” He will need to strike a more lofty, forceful, and manly chin profile:

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    52% voted for Obozo.  
    This only says that 6% got a clue;the rest are still out of it.
    ================
    If they were any more clueless, they’d need assistance breathing.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Here’s another

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Larry, let the CIA know I am available to run the organization.

    Geeeezzzzzzzz, my mother is thinking more clearly than these morons!

    >:o

  • helenk

    the crowds will have pizza hut sandwiches.

    http://twitpic.com/3yg0o2

  • Suzie Ivy

    Is Our Director Of Intelligence Really This Clueless? Hell Yes!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, dang, Madame, wouldn’t you just love to do that?  And then China could step in (like the US did) and demand that Obama step down because he was squandering the nation’s (and China’s) wealth (since they give us a ton of money like we give Egypt), was violating the Constitution, etc., etc., etc.

    I am sure we could muster more than 250,000 people, don’t you? 

    I wonder if the Obots would feel the same abt THAT kind of revolution??  (I know – no, they wouldn’t.)

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    In all seriousness, if you watch him in that Diane Sawyer interview, he really does seem completely out of it and clueless.  It was shocking for someone in that position.

  • helenk
  • tek

    Reminds me of Janet Napolitano saying the Mexican border is 100% secure. Yah, just keep thinking that.

  • helenk

    on Fox News backtrack’s response to Egypt,
    He is giving orders again.

  • tek

    Probably 78% of all Americans don’t know anything about Egypt and so they approve The One.

  • tek

    That’s a good one, Ferd. Sometimes I think of the bots as lemmings.

  • olivia1998

    the tanks are still at the palace.  They’ll protect Egypt even that means moving Mubarak out.  They won’t allow the muslim brotherhood to take over.  You all know 2 google employees started all this don’t you?

  • oowawa

    “NBC: Obama, finding speech ‘dispiriting,’ to make written statement

    By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com reporter
    Update 6:48 p.m. ET: NBC News’ Chuck Todd reports that White House officials say President Barack Obama found Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s speech “extremely dispiriting.”
    After making upbeat remarks earlier in the day at a speech in Michigan, in which he said the world was watching “history unfold,” Obama is now expected only to issue a written statement this evening.”

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I’m thinking of re-opening my virtual pizza joint and snack stand, in light of the fact my cage-free free-roaming humane-certified organic popcorn seems to be way in demand as of late! 8-)

    Obama is worse/more incompetent than I imagined, and that’s hard to imagine,

    Yes, I still have plenty of butter on hand. Gonna need it!

  • yttik

    I am so confused by the Obama administration! First we never saw these protests coming. Next, they urged for a peaceful resolution. Next Mubarak must go. Then Mubarak must stay. Then the Muslim Brotherhood is secular and good and must have a seat at the table. Then they re-clarify. Then the reports say Mubarak is stepping down. Then he goes on TV and says he’s not going anywhere. Then the Obama administration says they never saw this coming……aren’t we right back where we started, they never saw this coming?

    The only thing I can deduce from all this back and forth is that Obama administration and his people are completely clueless. He looks weak and ineffectual. You don’t declare a dictator must leave and than back off from that and just keep flopping around like a fish! And if you were truly “completely caught off guard” when he refuses to resign, you don’t run around saying that!

    Get your ducks in a row before you start shooting all these blanks. It’s getting embarassing.

  • oowawa

    NBC: Obama, finding speech ‘dispiriting,’ to make written statement

    By M. Alex Johnson, msnbc.com reporter
    Update 6:48 p.m. ET: NBC News’ Chuck Todd reports that White House officials say President Barack Obama found Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s speech “extremely dispiriting.”
    After making upbeat remarks earlier in the day at a speech in Michigan, in which he said the world was watching “history unfold,” Obama is now expected only to issue a written statement this evening.”

  • oowawa

    Yep, the whole Muslim Brotherhood probably found Mubarak’s speech “extremely dispiriting.”

  • Cindy

    OMG Galt! Welcome back!

  • Cindy

    Reminds me of Janet Napolitano saying the Mexican border is 100% secure

    tek—well, actually it IS secure, if you’re only talking about Taco Bell, which just may be what the administration is referencing.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Thanks Cindy!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    GALT!!!!  Woohoo!!!!!!  :)

  • oowawa

    Israel must be watching this all with dismay and astonishment . . .

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Well said, yttik.  Spot on.

  • yttik

    There really was another part to that poll, something like 52% of the people surveyed said they have heard little or nothinb about the crisis in Egypt.

  • oowawa

    Israel must be watching this fiasco with dismay and astonishment . . .

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Amy! Nice to see you and love your posts, as always!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, dear goddess, MUST he??  Good grief – Obama has been on the tee-vee almost every single day, and every single day, he has been wrong, wrong, wrong…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    One can certainly hope, olivia.  But from what I have seen, the MB are the only opposition group that has been getting any air time.  Abrams said tonight if they “only” get 1/4 of the Egyptians behind them, that is still not good.  It sure seems like they are egging a lot of this on. 

    It will be interesting to see what the Army does next.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Found my old avatar!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you kindly, Galt!

    Nice to have you back, and just in time, I’d say!

  • oowawa

    Well, Napolitano is correct: the border IS still secure.  If you look at the latest maps, you will see that it is still where it always has been, following along the Rio Grande.  It’s the people coming across the border that are a matter of concern….

  • helenk
  • sowsear

    There are polls and there are polls…

  • helenk

    this article was on the site right above the one about backtrack’s speech.
    I had to post it. I think they are sending people to the wrong place. They are needed in Washington DC more.

    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2011/02/11/0200000000AEN20110211001900315.HTML

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I’m clueless on Egypt. Wow, that makes me qualified to be President, these days!

    Seriously, I think most of us haven’t got a clue about Egypt, but none of us claim to be “Ready on day one” President, either.

  • greenlantern

    Seriously, this is giving me the same sense of doom that the 2008 Obamamania did. It’s like people have once again taken leave of their senses. Maybe the History Channel is right and Bobo really is the anti-christ! 

  • sowsear

    Written is better for him.

  • Mr. Natural

    I have a cardboard cutout of Elle MacPherson that I carry in my sidecar when I don’t want to ride alone. Perfect Motoring Companion: never complains about her hair in the wind and never needs a Comfort Stop.

    Gettin’ a little raggedy around the edges, though. Looking for a cardboard cutout of Constance Zimmer this year to accompany me to Sturgis.

  • Mr. Natural

    Look at Oliver North…

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    BTW, I’m also selling asbestos-lined Ferd-proof vests for the bots. I think they could use the protection.

  • yttik

    Rofl!

    This reporter yesterday made me laugh, he said, “here we are, in a war zone less than a mile from the US border. Should US officials be concerned?” The look on his face was priceless, because it was that phony quizical look reporters have when they are pretending to be neutral.  After a second  his face fell into a WTF?? Heck yeah we should be concerned!! Did you just make me say something really stupid?

  • seattlegonz

    This is so infuriating. The young men that decide all things, it seems, can’t campaign and implement democracy through a damn election because they’re really just implementing a coup. We need to stand with Egypt against a coup.

    Free and fair elections — that’s what we support. (supposedly, before Obama.) We should be telling the men that they are free to campaign to replace Mubarak. That’s what democray entails. It doesn’t happen with a mass protest and chants of leave, leave.

    Egypt has a constitution and elections slated for September. If one more news reporter claims that the men in Tahrir speak for Egyptians I’m going to detonate my TV. (No, can’t do that…I’ll think of something.)

    Egyptians will speak at the ballot. That’s when Egyptians will have their say.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Amy, yeah. The tide was against us in 08. The tidal wave is against the bots this time around. Should be fun to watch them all implode.

  • seattlegonz

    I cannot believe that Obama has come out and publically told Egypt what the hell he wants. Good lord. Hillary must be dying with his incompetence and how much he’s screwing up all the work she’s done to regain respect for the US.

    Now he wants Egypt to explain its changes. Whatever the hell that means.

    He really needs to be impeached. We should flood our congress with calls to do just that.

  • Puma.for.Life

    ohhh, that makes a difference; so most people are not paying attention or listening to NBC, which is the same thing.

  • seattlegonz

    And incredible fear and outrage.

  • oowawa

    Wow–the patronizing tone of this is remarkable.  This is not only going to piss off the Mubarak partisans, but it will also irritate all of the Egyptians who do not like US meddling in their affairs–and that is, let’s see, everybody….

  • carol haka, Matzo

    February 11 is Sarah Palin’s Birthday!

    Make sure you friend her on Facebook and wish her a happy birthday!

    :*

  • helenk

    U.N. agency to send foot-and-mouth experts to N. Korea: report

  • FlDemFem

    In other words, the Muslim Brotherhood is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. A religious organization working through secular means to get control of the country. And don’t worry that they are trying to do the same thing here, using our rights and laws to gain power for themselves while minimizing the ability of the majority to oppose them by screaming religious discrimination. Oh no, nothing to see here!! Just move along…

  • PortiaElizabeth

    I love it! A tater in every tot!

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Maybe the UN should send foot-in-mouth experts to the White House?

  • PortiaElizabeth

    And to think I was afraid his speech wouldn’t make any difference!

  • helenk

    this is part of the Guardian’s minute to minute updates.

    Fareed Zakaria, speaking on cable TV, says Obama’s actions are “unprecedented” for a US president so quickly trying to push an ally out of power.
    He points out that it took Ronald Reagan three years to turn against the brutal regime of Ferdinand Marcos in the Phillipines. And it took Bill Clinton a year and a half to lever Suharto out of power in Indonesia.
    1.02pm GMT: Looking more closely at the latest statement from Barack Obama, one line stands out:

    Those who have exercised their right to peaceful assembly … are broadly representative of Egyptian society.
    That’s the closest the US administration has come to aligning itself with the protesters and endorsing them as legitimately representing Egypt.

  • +

    Amy,

    I am sure the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, knows more about the Muslim Brotherhood than you, Larry Johnson, FOX News and all you looney noncredible Internet links combined.

    Again, I challenge you to provide one example from a credible source where the MB have been linked to any violence in the last 30 years. You have written three post now trying to say the MB is some kind of extremist group, but you have provide no proof or facts as such. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Why has the MB never been on the U.S. terrorism watch list? Why in 2007 did the Bush Adminstration reach out to the MB and increase ties to the group?

    There are many interpretations of Sharia, some moderate and some extreme. Just like interpreting the Bible or the Ten Commandments. Sharia might not be for you or me, but we are not Muslim.

    Again, your hatred for Muslims is on display. NQ and AMY loves to take swipes every chance they get at one of the great religions of the world, whether it was the faux controversy about the Muslim center near ground zero or now some kind of fear-mongering about the MB, for what reason I do not know. Amy, what actually is your point with all this?

  • +

    Amy,

    50% of the American population is right. The Obama adminstration is doing a very good job on Egypt, all things considered.

    On the other hand, your coverage has been horrible. You are just bashing the Muslim religion and fear-mongering, for who knows what reason.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    That’s why, as much as I fantasize about marching on the WH with pitchforks and torches, I know we can’t go down that road. Our country is great because we solve our problems through our votes. Our votes are our voices. The last two years have been excruciatingly painful as we watched our country being raped, but last November showed us and the world how it’s done in a democracy. I hope the US can continue to be an example for good.

  • trixta

    “Obama seems excited about the prospect of the Mulsim Brotherhood taking over Egypt while he was stone silent durng the Iran uprising to get rid of sharia law.  
     
    Coincidence? I think not.  ”

    You are absolutely right.   And there are larger questions that need to be asked.  Why is Obama (and his globalist handlers [i.e. Soros]) supporting the MB?  In other words, exactly whom would it benefit (besides the obvious MB)?  And How would it benefit a globalist agenda (i.e. what role could an authoritarian social structure such as Sharia play in the implementation of a globalist reorganization of the world economy?  

  • trixta

    Actually, that interview made them look like the Three Stoogies  - Moe, Larry (i.e Napolitano), and Curly (i.e. Clapper).

  • Texas Playwright

    Well, folks, we have exceeded our dumb assery quota for the 21st Century.  Let’s all take a nap for the next 89 years.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    ………… well, your vote is actually Acorn’s ………..

    :-D

  • Donna brazilla nut

    F+: and no one knows more about sh*t than you! What your daddy didn’t pay you enough attention?

  • carol haka, Matzo

    She meant on the Mexican side of the border!

    =-O

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Does the name Sadat mean anything to you?

    Idiot!

    >:o

  • oowawa

    That’s cool, Mr. Natural, but with that cutout of Elle, how are you going to pick up swingin’ chicks?  But why even mess with cardboard cutouts: here’s a female companion that never complains and also “never needs a comfort stop”:

  • +
  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL oowawa, so funny!

  • sowsear

    What is the Islanuc term for those who lie in the service of Islam?

  • greenlantern

    The problem is Egypt has not had elections in about 100 years and a high percentage of the people support the MB. Most likely, they do so w/o really knowing who the MB is. A democratic society takes awhile to build and needs the supporting structure to be in place before hand. I think this is what Mubarak was alluding to in his statement today.

    The “50%” are being fooled by the LSM and the left shouting about how wonderful it is that the protesters are calling for democracy. They have no idea what democracy is and they won’t find it in an Islaamic caliphate.

  • sowsear

    What is the Islamic term for those who lie in the service of Islam?

  • +

    Carol,

    Not sure what Sadat has to do with anything. If you are suggesting that the MB assassinated Sadat that is factually incorrect. They have never been linked to the assassination.

    If you can provide a credible link proving that they have, please provide it. Sadat was assassinated by an officer in the Egyptian military. He was a member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, a radical extremist group that is not affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood has fought against Egyptian Islamic Jihad. In addition, extremist groups like Egyptican Islamic Jihad have denounced the Muslim Brotherhood and the are arch enemies.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Islambouli

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Islamic_Jihad

  • sowsear

    It’s too bad that we don’t pull out all American media…see how long the uprising lasts.

  • +

    Amy,

    How about this from the Jewish Daily. Can you imagine a Jewish newspaper call the Muslim Brotherhood a moderate group?

    Muslim Brotherhood: In Egypt, a Pragmatic Player, but Less Likely To Rule

    Although proponents of democracy can only be excited by the prospect of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak leaving office after a 30-year dictatorship, they also fear that a possible successor in leadership of the country of 80 million could be worse — not only for Egypt, but for Israel.

    But despite alarms about the Muslim Brotherhood raised by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and some other observers, most scholars of Egyptian politics view the Muslim Brotherhood as actually the most moderate among Islamist groups.

    The group, they say, rightly raises a variety of democratic concerns. But most doubt that the Brotherhood, as it is known, would pose an existential threat to Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel, or that it would win a popular election currently set for September.

    There is a lot of exaggeration and Islamist hysteria,” said Dina Guirguis, a longtime activist for Egyptian democracy and a research fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Many of those who talk about the Brotherhood don’t understand the reality on the ground.”

    I don’t know anyone who had studied the Muslim Brotherhood and thinks they can take over,” said Nathan Brown, political science professor at George Washington University who has researched the Egyptian political system. “The best they can hope for is a seat at a crowded table.”

    Researchers, however, see a more nuanced picture of the group and of its ability to influence Egyptian policy. They point to the fact that the Brotherhood is unique, as it is one of few Islamic organizations that have explicitly debated the use of violence and decided against it, living up to this decision for the past four decades. Earlier, at the time of its founding, the group did not refrain from violence against the British. It became a model for similar Brotherhoods established in other Arab countries, which still operate throughout the Middle East, making the Brotherhood the largest and oldest international Islamist organization. Since it is outlawed in Egypt, there are no exact figures regarding membership and support. Experts estimate the Brotherhood has less than half a million active members, but that support for the group among Egyptian voters could reach several million.

    It was in 1970 that the group officially renounced violence, stating it would focus on promoting its social services network as a means of advancement toward its goal of an Islamic state. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is not on the U.S. State Department list of terror organizations, which is considered the most comprehensive documentation of groups involved in terror.

    Stephen P. Cohen, president of the Institute for Middle East Peace and Development, argued that despite Israeli fears of such a move, it would be a mistake to believe the Brotherhood could actually drive Egypt down the path of revoking the peace accord with Israel. “This is a self-defeating assumption,” he said. “In fact, the peace with Israel reflects the consensus in Egypt.”
     

    Marshall Breger, a Catholic University law professor who was President Ronald Reagan’s liaison to the Jewish community and has been active in outreach efforts to Muslim groups, said he sees no reason to refrain from engaging with the Brotherhood, either privately or publicly. “They are part of the fabric of the Egyptian society,” he said. “They are a relevant player.”

    Brown estimated that the Brotherhood would be less successful electorally now than in 2005 when, under tough limitations, it won 20% of the seats in Parliament. Dina Guirguis estimates that the group’s share in future elections will range between 15% and 20% of the votes.

    http://forward.com/articles/135318/

  • sowsear

    That’s myopia for you. He can’t see any further than the end of his nose

  • sowsear

    Get rid of the cameras, get rid of the crowds.

  • susiepuma

    Hell – they’re muslims – all those young men love the thought of being martyrs – those 72 virgins are waiting for them ya know…………

  • Donna brazilla nut

    By George you know how to cut and paste! Good job! Now is that the kind of attention you’ve been looking for?

  • susiepuma

    Egypt has been an Islamic Arab country for about 1000 years – IMO they know exactly what the Muslim Brotherhood is and they support it…

    Women have been abused and mistreated no matter who is in power and the brotherhood is sure not gonna change that…

  • susiepuma

    Yeah – he can get his crayons out and print his widdle speech……

  • sowsear

    Where you been?

  • greenlantern

    Oh Susie, don’t throw cold water all over my fuzzy warm denial! Mark Steyn said last night that 90% of the women in Egypt have undergone genital mutilation. The only hope is that they are not among those protesters present now in Tahrir Square.

  • Breeze

    Faulty comment on Egypt  
    by Panetta leads to chaos
     
       
    Washington Post,  
    by Greg Miller     
     
    Original Article  
     
    2/10/2011   
     
    CIA Director Leon Panetta helped touch off an avalanche of erroneous expectations Thursday when he testified that there was a “strong likelihood” that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak would step down by the end of the day. Within minutes, senior aides to Panetta sought to tamp down the impact, saying he was merely referring to media reports. But by then, the comments had ricocheted around the Internet, underscoring U.S. confusion about events unfolding in Egypt, as well as the perils of publicly weighing in on such developments while serving as director of CIA.

  • FlDemFem

    There are two forms, taqiyya and ketman. Taqiyya involves concealment of religion and ketman involves political or religious camoflage, paying lip service to the incumbent form of governance while secretly holding opposing views. Ketman often ends up in uprisings and revolution. They are what enables Muslims to do things like swear the NY mosque is not a victory mosque and that Muslims have no quarrel with Americans when saying the opposite in Arab countries. And lying to an infidel is not really lying since they are infidels and not deserving of the truth since they have not come to the truth of Islam. Of course, all these things come from Mohamed, not God. God said “Do not bear false witness”, “Thou shalt not kill” and Muslims do both, in the name of God, because Mohamed said they should. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t sort of religion.

  • FlDemFem

    There are two forms, taqiyya and ketman. Taqiyya involves concealment of religion and ketman involves political or religious camoflage, paying lip service to the incumbent form of governance while secretly holding opposing views. Ketman often ends up in uprisings and revolution. They are what enables Muslims to do things like swear the NY mosque is not a victory mosque and that Muslims have no quarrel with Americans when saying the opposite in Arab countries. And lying to an infidel is not really lying since they are infidels and not deserving of the truth since they have not come to the truth of Islam. Of course, all these things come from Mohamed, not God. God said “Do not bear false witness”, “Thou shalt not kill” and Muslims do both, in the name of God, because Mohamed said they should. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t sort of religion.

  • Agent X

    He will be retired again soon….

  • Breeze

    -
    O/T

    Multiculturalism has failed,
    says French president

    Agence France-Presse,
    by Staff   

    Original Article

    2/10/2011

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy declared Thursday that multiculturalism had failed, joining a growing number of world leaders or ex-leaders who have condemned it. “My answer is clearly yes, it is a failure,” he said in a television interview when asked…..

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    It is a bit misleading – yes, the article is in the Jewish Daily Forward, but it is written by someone in Washington, DC. The two comments at this article are well-worth reading, including this conclusion of one reader: “This naïve substitute for a rational international policy based on realpolitik is not only leading to the end of the US as the worlds only “superpower,” but creates enormous instability in countries already unstable, is the direct cause of tens-of-thousands and more lives needlessly lost on the altar of American arrogance, its self-righteous ideology of remaking the world after its own image.”

  • jrterrier

    greta and john bolton are talking about today’s fiasco by USA intelligence and administration.  bolton:  crowd disappointed by the western media frenzy who fed off each other; greta:  media fed up by the statement of panetta, who said he was expected to step down.  (paraphrase).

    and, as bolton pointed out, if mubarak steps down, under the Egyptian constitution the speaker of the parliament takes over and an election must take place within 60 days.  is that what the Pres Obama wants, really? 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Or this one: “It’s so silly to present arguments that the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood to political power is not such a serious possibility. The dynamics of events in Egypt are quite beyond guessing. However, the attempt to calm us, pretending that a Muslim Brotherhood regime would not renew the state of war with Israel is really going too far. Of course, they would cancel the peace treaty with Israel. And with the cancelation of the peace treaty, there will be no point expecting any more peace treaties in the Middle East.”

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yes I heard that… herrendous!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yes I heard that… herrendous! OMG!

  • SeriouslyStrongWoman

    greenlantern, FREE HILLARY, HAHAHAHA!!

    PS.  Posted Eye update on other thread on a reply to RRRA!!

  • greenlantern

    This is the article I used.

    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Lying_for_Islam

  • Breeze

    Muslim Brotherhood Wants Egyptian Nukes

    American Thinker,
    by Denis Keohane   

    Original Article

    2/10/2011 

    If I can readily find this on the Net why can’t the big media? It is from WMD Insights, November 2006, a publication sponsored by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) of the U.S. Defense Department. Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Presses Government for Nuclear Weapons In the summer of 2006…the Muslim Brotherhood…escalated its nuclear goals and openly called for Egypt to develop nuclear weapons as a counter to Israel’s nuclear capabilities.

    (Snip) “We [Egyptians] are ready to starve in order to own a nuclear weapon that will represent a real deterrent and will be decisive in the Arab-Israeli conflict.”

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    So, Angela Merkl says that state multiculturalism has failed in Germany, and David Cameron concurs the same is true in the UK.  Now France has weighed in. Holy moley.

    What do y’all think abt this – whenever the talking heads mention this, they say that communities in the US are far better integrated than in those countries. True? False? Inbetween?

  • jrterrier

    that statement struck me too.  who interviewed the crowd and determined that they were broadly representative?  even if 2 million people have been out there, which is not likely, that only represents 2% of the egyptian population. 

    maybe their experience in the dem caucuses have blinded them to the meaning of “broadly representative.” 

  • jrterrier

    really, then why did Clapper’s office have to clarify his statement?

  • greenlantern

    Agreed, Sowsear. Our media seemed to be covering this like it was the Superbowl, very sensationalized and not very savvy. No wonder they got their ears boxed and, I know it’s not nice, but I have to say I was not all that dismayed. Tonight I look at the footage and I just see those obnoxous loud-mouth young males mugging for the cameras. Enough! We are fomenting this crap by indulging a loud minority. BTW, did some of those crowd scenes last Friday look photo-shopped to anyone?

  • Breeze

    Oops!
    BY Richard FernandezWith Mubarak thumbing his nose at the U.S. by refusing to step down, the Obama administration may manage to achieve what only few governments in history have done: alienate their enemies as well as their friends. (Update: At the Tatler, Egypt’s ambassador to the U.S. tells CNN that Egyptian Vice President Suleiman is now that nation’s “de facto” president.)Read <img src=”http://pajamasmedia.com/wp-content/themes/pjm/images/orangebullet.gif” border=”0″ alt=”bullet”/> |

  • Breeze

    -
    Oops!  

    BY Richard Fernandez

    With Mubarak thumbing his nose at the U.S. by refusing to step down, the Obama administration may manage to achieve what only few governments in history have done: alienate their enemies as well as their friends.

    (Update: At the Tatler, Egypt’s ambassador to the U.S. tells CNN that Egyptian Vice President Suleiman is now that nation’s “de facto” president.)

    Read <img src=”http://pajamasmedia.com/wp-content/themes/pjm/images/orangebullet.gif” border=”0″ alt=”bullet”/> |

  • JB in VA

    The Forward began as a socialist publication and remains left to center-left.  Lots of nice articles about Jewish life and culture, but quite unreliable and unrealistic on politics and world affairs.  

  • Madame deFarge

    I think that was the reason for the paternalistic tone of Mubarak’s message…”my children, etc.) he knows they are not ready for prime time.  They are people who still need strict rules.  If you don’t know how to live, someone needs to show or tell you.  90% of the women having had genital mutilation?  They hardly know any other way.  That’s a sign of a barbaric, ignorant society and they do need guidance by a strong leader.  You know the saying…you get the leader you deserve.  I hope to God, they deserve better by now than the MB and Sharia.  I guess they’ll show us how far they’ve evolved.  The presence of 99% male protesters doesn’t give much hope…except the stable members of society were inside their houses…what do they want?  85million and only 100k out on the streets making the decisions?  When will the majority rise up and protect their country?

  • Breeze

    -

    FALSE:

    The US has not had the ‘experience’ with the Muslims like Europe has had.

    Give them time, if we don’t pay attention to what they have done in
    Europe.  It seems only Italy has been able to keep ahead of them by
    passing some really tough laws.

  • Madame deFarge

    I think that was the reason for the paternalistic tone of Mubarak’s message…(“my children, etc.) he knows they are not ready for prime time.  They are people who still need strict rules.  If you don’t know how to live, someone needs to show or tell you.  90% of the women having had genital mutilation?  They hardly know any other way.  That’s a sign of a barbaric, ignorant society and they do need guidance by a strong leader.  You know the saying…you get the leader you deserve.  I hope to God, they deserve better by now than the MB and Sharia.  I guess they’ll show us how far they’ve evolved.  The presence of 99% male protesters doesn’t give much hope…except the stable members of society were inside their houses…what do they want?  85million and only 100k out on the streets making the decisions?  When will the majority rise up and protect their country?  Despite Mubarak’s iron hand, they have had peace for a long time…that in itself is an accomplishment. 

  • Madame deFarge

    Well, that’s what they are trying to get us to swallow here about “moderate” Muslims too.  Ain’t no such thang.

  • JB in VA

    I thought that was a very odd and uninformative “panel” on Bret Baier — all of them totally in agreement, all of them parroting the same pro-revolution neo-con line.  As if they WANT to see the ME go up in flames; and let’s face it, some people already at or near the top are going to get a lot richer, a lot faster, if that happens.  

  • helenk

    this is interesting. US monitering Egyptian prisons for terrorist escapes.
    Since backtrack has made such an outstanding impression on the Egyptian government I am sure they will go out of their way to help us.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/10/us-checks-prisons-for-terrorist-escapes/

  • helenk
  • HARP

    Now we can see what ‘Voting Present’ Diplomacy will turn out like. This will be studied by students for the next 50 years.

  • Madame deFarge

    Yes, the head of Google Dubai claims he’s the big cheese in this.  He’s pretty full of himself about now…proclaiming he did it on a Facebook page with all faux modesty that the “real heros” are the people who died.  Spoken like a true Mulsim. 

    My question is since Dubai is all about $$ and biz, how is this going down there?  Will he be welcomed back with open arms?  Will he have now found his true calling as the Che of the MIddle East?  Really, his future is wide open and his ego is reaching overload about now.

  • JB in VA

    It doesn’t help AT ALL that Fox has gone over to the dark side since that Ailes memo to be more pro-obama.

    So regular viewers there turn on Fox for a few minutes and hear someone — and it could be just about anyone other than Sean or Greta – spouting about the people’s revolution in Egypt and how well obama is staying on top of things, etc. — et voila.  

  • Madame deFarge

    Well, as I live and breath…

  • helenk

    interesting thoughts on Egypt’s uprising.

    http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/egypt-again/

  • ctfsh

    “Fareed Zakaria, speaking on cable TV, says Obama’s actions are “unprecedented” for a US president so quickly trying to push an ally out of power.”

    No doubt Zakaria’s commentary will be taken as praise. BHO looooves him some “unprecendented”.

  • greenlantern

    Odd and uninformative–you got it, JB.

    And because I’m getting tired now, I’m going to say that maybe it’s due to the fact that they could be members of “The Living Dead”. Paul Wolfowitz has always looked a little vampire-ish with those Eddy Munster bat ears. And the first time I saw Krauthammer in his own box on the screen I thought he looked like someone buried then exhumed George Hamilton.

  • HARP

    “What good fortune for governments that the people do not think”.

    Adolph Hitler

  • Madame deFarge

    So…the head of Google Dubai claims he’s the big cheese in this.  He’s pretty full of himself about now…proclaiming he did it on a Facebook page with all faux modesty that the “real heros” are the people who died.  Spoken like a true Mulsim.   
     
    My question is since Dubai is all about $ and biz, how is this going down there?  Will he be welcomed back with open arms?  Will he have now found his true calling as the Che of the MIddle East?  Really, his future is wide open and his ego is reaching overload about now.  Another clueless “progressive” unable to comprehend the unintended consequences of his actions.

  • Jackie

    The answer to the opening question is YES.  Our intelligence communtiy is that friggin clueless.

    Leon Panetta–I’m gettting my info from TV news.

    We all know how accurate that is.  Maybe Clapper is suffering from Obamaitis–beliveing and saying anything you want facts are irrelevant.

    We are in trouble.

  • greenlantern

    The most excellent Michelle Malkin:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/10/egypt-a-fluid-situation/

    This is someone the left tries very hard to portray as a firebreathing hellbeast. I heard her again debating some clueless leftie on Hannity’s radio show. She was a real lady and smart as a whip.

  • BettsAZ

    I agree…Obama seemed a little too giddy over the prospects of his friends in the Muslim Brotherhood coming into power…you know:”transformation” “change” “hope”…another reoccurring nightmare!

  • helenk

    does anyone else feel like it has been one hell of a day?
    Usually I can find something beautiful to take the bad feelings away.
    Today I am worried about how this Egyptian situation can spiral out of control and start a 3rd world war.
    We have a clueless government, with a president who does not have the best interest of our country at heart. We never had that before in this country.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • BettsAZ

    There’s a wonderful documentary, “Rabbit Hash” about a tiny little town in Kentucky who elected a dog for their Mayor.Worked for them!

  • seattlegonz

    I didn’t know no women lived in Egypt.

  • seattlegonz

    I didn’t know that there weren’t any women living in Egypt…that’s what I meant to say.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    sowsear, I’ve been busy perfecting my secret pizza recipe for the bots. It contains an antidote to koolaid poisoning.

  • susiepuma

    The recent legal (and illegal aliens) immigrants do not ‘melt into our country’ – if they did why would there be places called Little Mogadishue, etc.  – they congregate together – most immigrants will learn English, learn our laws and observe them – others, not so much – bugs the hell out of me to see women walking around in their shrouds or head rags or whatever – always 2 steps behind the MAN – what bullshit – diversity has killed our country – we used to be a melting pot – now we are bunch of separate little pots spread out around the country -

  • susiepuma

    can’t happen soon enough – he’s been past his sell by date for some years now……………….

  • BettsAZ

    I saw that interview…it was really disconcerting to say the least.Quite scary,actually in these dangerous times! We are in serious doo doo with this present regime in the White House. 2012 can’t come soon enough! Every day it’s something else…something really bad.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I guess call me bad penny?

  • Candy

    Well, since the Obie left believes that the Muslim Brotherhood is some kind of harmless association that just wants liberation and peace, I suggest that the Obie administration arrange a conference for all the Muslim Brotherhood members and all of the Code Pink Members in the same room, and let these two great groups come up with a plan for Egypt.

  • Madame deFarge

    So the Pizza Parlor is closed for the night? 

    BTW, nice to see you back.  I hope this wasn’t just a “teaser”…

    AKA AnnieCarmel

  • BettsAZ

    How about the hairy guy in Gitmo,Sheik Khalid Mohammad who beheaded Daniel Pearl…Muslim Brotherhood. Or Mohammad Atta,leader of the 9/11 airline massacre…Muslim Brotherhood. Or how about the #2 guy in al-qaida,the Egyptian pediatrician,Zawahari(sp?)…Muslim Brotherhood. How about the Muslim Brotherhood off shoot, Hamas? Yeah, no trouble from anyone there.

  • Cindy

    Galt—-no, a lucky  penny!

  • greenlantern

    Bless your heart, HelenK. This has me scared,too, and LIVID. Thank goodness, though, that we are not deluding ourselves as so many are now. Thanks for your posts and all that good information you bring. Good night to you and all here. 

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Hey nice to see you as well.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    You did not listen to Basil Fawlty! “Don’t talk about the war!”

  • PUMA GSD

    Maybe Obama has the same contempt for the Egyptian constitution
    as he does the American constitution.

  • Cindy

    helenk—-I feel the same way too—-my feelings have changed since this started today…..But we, the United States, have NO leader.
    And when people are scared, worried, and stressed-out about what they’re hearing and seeing  overseas, they need a LEADER to assuage their fears and to tell them that he/she is going to take care of them, and provide for their security. 
    Nothing even resembling that is coming from this administration.

  • Cindy

    LOL, Galt!

  • Cindy

     ‘Voting Present’ Diplomacy

    HARP—God, that’s an excellent  term for this President!

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I guess that Ob is now a centrist/Ronald Reagan thing is over before it started.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Cindy, look at it this way: this is all great news for folks who own stock from the companies that make Xanax and Prozac.

  • helenk

    per AlArabiya Egyptian military to make statement soon. No time given or idea of what will be said.

    http://www.breakingnews.com

  • Cindy

    Galt—-ain’t THAT the truth!

  • Cindy

    I guess that Ob is now a centrist/Ronald Reagan thing is over before it started.
     
    Galt—-Oh horrors!  What will become of all the thousands of t-shirts the DNC ordered?! (tee-hee)

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Seriously, I’m beginning to doubt we can survive this madness.

  • Cindy
  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Free pizza for you for understanding my classic TV reference.

  • wbboei

    TONIGHT I SPOKE TO THE SMARTEST PERSON I KNOW ABOUT THE LOOMING CRISIS IN EGYPT. SHE IS A SCHOLAR, A WRITER AND A STUDENT OF CHICAGO POLITICS. SHE IS ALSO A CLAIRVOYANT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN SUCH THINGS.  WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FOR SURE IS. SHE KNOWS OBAMA’S EVERY MOVE BEFORE HE MAKES IT. 
    SHE SAID WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN EGYPT–BECAUSE NOBODY GETS IT. THEY THINK HE IS INCOMPTENT WHEN IN FACT HE IS QUITE PURPOSEFUL IN WHAT HIS IS DOING. OR YOU CAN UNDERSTIMAE HIM AT YOUR OWN PERIL,
    BEFORE YOU CAN DO SO HOWEVER YOU MUST UNDERSTAND HOW CHIACAGO POLITICS WORKS, AND WHY UNTIL NOW IT WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO GO NATION WIDE. TED KENNEDY RELEASED THAT DIFIGURING DISEASE ON AMERICA IN 2008 . AND NOW IT IS TRANSMORGIFYING THIS COUNTRY LIKE IT HAS DAMAGED THE CITY OF CHICAGO–BUT ONCE AGAIN
    NOBODY GETS IN. LEAST OF ALL BIG MEDIA WHO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOX GET THEIR CONTENT DIRECTLY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE–WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE STATE MEDIA.
    MY FRIEND HASTENED TO ADD THAT CHICAGO POLITICOS ARE NOT BRILLIANT. THEY DO NOT OPERATE OFF ELABORATE PLAN. BUT THE STUDY AN OPPONENT CLOSELY, WHETHER IT IS THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, OUR FOREIGN POLICY , OR THE MUBARAK GOVERNMENT. THEY PUT THEIR PEOPLE IN PLACE, THEY POKE HERE, SEE WHAT POPS UP THERE AND PLAN TO HOLD POWER IN PERPETUITY BY KEEPING THEIR OPPONENT COMPLETELY OFF BALANCE, UNTIL THE TIME IS RIGHT TO STRIKE AND KILL THEM. THEREAFTER, CLAIM PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. .
    THEN SHE ASKED ME TO THINK ABOUT WHERE OBAMA STOOD ONLY TWO WEEKS AGO. HIS STATE OF THE UNION PRODUCED ZERO BOUNCE. THE BENEFIT OF THE TUSCON SPEECH WAS FADING. THE REPUBLICANS WERE POISED TO BEGIN THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE AND TO SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW THEY HAD BEEN SOLD DOWN THE RIVER. THE TEA PARTIES WERE GETTING THEIR SECOND WIND. THEN CAME THE CRISIS IN TUNESIA AND IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT OBAMA REALIZED THAT IF HE COULD PRECIPITATE A SIMILAR CRISIS IN EGYPT AND PUSH FORWARD THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD THEN HE COULD CREATE AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS WHICH WOULD DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIS DOMESTIC FAILURE.
    HE MET MUBARACK BEFORE AT THE CAIRO SPEECH. HE KNEW HE WAS A PROUD AND BRITTLE MAN. HE KNEW THAT IF HE COULD EMBARRASS HIM THAT HE COULD CAUSE HIM TO OVERREACT. SOROS OPERATIVES LIT THE FUSE IN EGYPT. AND JUST AS HILLARY COMPLETED HER WORK ARRANGING FOR THE PEACEFUL TRANSITION TO REAL DEMOCRACY WHICH THE WORLD WANTED, HE CALLED UP MUBARACK AND INSULTED HIM NOT JUST ONCE BUT THREE TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL DAYS. EVEN THE ESTIMABLE CHARLES KRATUTHMAMMER MISSED WHAT THE GAME WAS HERE, AND IT HAS AXELROD’S FINGER PRINTS ALL OVER IT. IT CREATED THE CRISIS HE WANTED, NEEDED AND USED MOST EFFECTIVELY TO SHIFT PUBLIC ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE JOB LOSSES, RISING FOOD PRICES AT HOME, THE LOSS OF OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. NOW BIG MEDIA IS COVERING HIM WITH GARLANDS AND PROCLAIMING HIS LEADERSHIP AND RIGGING THE POLLS TO REFLECT IT. (NOTE: ZOGBY OF ALL PEOPLE–AN OBAMA MOLE WAS ON FOX TONIGHT TELLING US NOT TO BELIEVE ANY OF THE POLLING GOING ON NOW.)
    SHE CONCLUDED THAT OBAMA HAS HIT UPON THE PERFECT RELELECTION STRATEGY WHICH IS TO KEEP INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS IN SUCH A STATE OF TURMOIL. AS THIS VIRUS SPREADS TO OTHER VENUES IN THE EAST IT WILL CUT OFF OUR OIL SUPPLY AND THREATEN THE VERY EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL. OBAMAS HATRED OF THE UNITED STATES AND HIS CONTEMPT FOR ISRAEL ARE ALL IMPLICATED IN THE GRAND SCHEME. YET NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY SEEMS TO CARE. THEY ARE TOO BUSY WITH THEIR DAILY LIVES, AND THAT IS WHAT OBAMA IS COUNTING ON. BIG MEDIA WILL NOT REPORT THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTALLY RELIANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THEIR CONTENT.

  • Cindy

    Thin crust pepperoni, please,  and don’t spare the parmesan :)

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Coming right up!

  • SeriouslyStrongWoman

    t,
    Hello FREELOADER!  WHAT DID YOU BUY TO KEEP TAKING UP BANDWIDTH WITH YOUR COPY AND PASTE of ENTIRE articles of UNLESS INFORMATION?? I just sent Mr. Larry my receipt from Amazon.com that I went to from this site for him to receive revenue!! Now, go put your MONEY where your Mouth is.  Why should he pay for your to copy and paste Obama MEMO’S???

  • SeriouslyStrongWoman

    *USELESS*, sorry folks, SEE can’t see from the test today, LOL!

  • Madame deFarge

    wbboei, I can see some of that could be true.  Certainly Obama has let us know how he hates the Western world.  Stanley Ann did her dirty work well, I suppose.  But Israel will not have its very existence threatened.  It will take down Iran first and cut off the money flow and India will keep Pakistan busy if they turn off the oil.  Frankly, I trust people on the net who have experience with these ME more than the talking heads who attempt to manipulate the public perception and so far the people I’ve read believe the military is in command, not the MB. Then there’s the emerging China…awfully quiet this week.

    I guess we’ll see tomorrow if they are able to shut down some or all of the demonstrators.  People who back the government and who have a stake in the country will only let venting go on for so long.  I think their tourism industry will take a long time to recover.  No Westerner is going to be interested in the Pyramids with these thugs running rampant.

    What we need to do is impeach this fraud and tell Joey in no uncertain terms to recind the moratorium on drilling day before yesterday and get going on our own supplies.  Further, Canada is one of our great oil sources…at least they seem stable today.  I do believe Barry is trying to gin up situations to try to get his Cap and Trade bill going again.  He stands to personally make billions from this bogus carbon trading…along with his pals and Algore.  He’s playing a dangerous game…and everything he says and does is suspect and has been from the first day he campaigned.

  • Madame deFarge

    Goodnight all…it’s been a long day.

  • Samb

    Yes, this has all been a crock-pot of Obama and companies, BS.

    It’s like the song says “Joker’s to the left of us
    joker’s to the right, here I am stuck in the middle again”

    I am worried for Israel’s safety, I have never been but
    from what I read and have seen, there seems to be so
    much beauty and history there.

    It is to bad that the rest of the world
    can’t see that too.

  • Samb

    Yes, this has all been a crock-pot of Obama and companies, BS.  
     
    It’s like the song says “Joker’s to the left of me  
    clowns to the right, here I am stuck in the middle again”  
     
    I am worried for Israel’s safety, I have never been but  
    from what I read and have seen, there seems to be so  
    much beauty and history there.  
     
    It is to bad that the rest of the world  
    can’t see that too.

  • Samb

    Yes, this has all been a crock-pot of Obama and companies, BS.    
       
    It’s like the song says “Joker’s to the right of me clowns to the left off me, here I am stuck in the middle again”       
    I am worried for Israel’s safety, I have never been but    
    from what I read and have seen, there seems to be so    
    much beauty and history there.    
       
    It is to bad that the rest of the world    
    can’t see that too.

  • Samb

    Yes, this has all been a crock-pot of Obama and companies, BS.      
     
    It’s like the song says “Joker’s to the right of me 
    Clowns to my left,  here I am stuck in the middle again”  
          
    I am worried for Israel’s safety, I have never been but      
    from what I read and have seen, there seems to be so      
    much beauty and history there.      
         
    It is to bad that the rest of the world      
    can’t see that too.  

  • Samb

    Yes, this has all been a crock-pot of Obama and companies, BS.
    It’s like the song says “Joker’s to the right of me, clowns to my left, here I am stuck in the middle again”    
    I am worried for Israel’s safety, I have never been but from what I read and have seen, there seems to be so much beauty and history there.    

  • Concerned

    <Quote>Why do you think Obama supports Sharia law? What benefit is it to him?<Unquote>

    One word – Michelle.

  • EWard

    Both Big Media and Obama are distrusted.  His college speech on Thursday showed how clueless he is.         

    Even with the focus on Egypt, Americans can’t escape the pain of unemployment and problems at home.  It’s like the inmates are running the asylum.   

    Voters know they are being manipulated.  The chaos reinforces the idea that BO is in the pocket of our enemies.    

  • NOOGAN!!

    Shocking, isn’t it?! 

    Where “Intelligence” is an oxymoron! Emphasis on “Moron.” 


    Who started that rumor about Mubarak leaving anyway?

    Oh. It was LEON PANETTA, HIMSELF! 

    All day, as rumors swirled Mr. Mubarak would step down, administration officials struggled to understand what was happening, and even U.S. intelligence officials appeared baffled at one point. At a Capitol Hill hearing, Leon Panetta, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers there was “a strong likelihood that Mubarak may step down this evening.”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703745704576136743649012416.html

  • NOOGAN!!

    No. There are NOT “many interpretations” of Sharia. There is ONLY ONE interpretation of Sharia. 

    The fact that you would even make such a stupid argument exposes your naivete. 

    I used to make the same arguments you’re making. I’ve had some heated debates/discussions/arguments here making the very same arguments you’re making now. Then I started reading; and the more I read, the more I realized I had been wrong. And, so are you, Pigeon. 

  • AbigailAdams

    I don’t know, someone may want to poll the people of Michigan about how well that Arab-American melting pot thang is going.  I don’t know this website I linked, but it’s a rather interesting story:

    http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009/07/special-report-sharia-comes-to-dearborn.html

  • NOOGAN!!

    Circle Jerk! 

    Panetta based his statement that Mubarak was likely to step down on MEDIA REPORTS not “intelligence!”

    Hahahahaha.  :-D =-O

  • Doc99

    Our country’s in the very best of hands.

  • AbigailAdams

    helenk:  Ever the optimist, and a person of faith, I surrender my fears to El Shaddai — God All Sufficient.  My faith and trust is always under a test and in those tests I always have a choice.  I would never presume to know absolutely, but has this story been told before?  Yes.  Only about a gazillion times.  It’s why I’d rather do just about anything else than study the Old Testament. 

    Another way to look at the “NO leader” situation, is that a natural and good leader will have an opportunity to be known.  This is my hope and prayer. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, he is way overstepping here.  And Lawmakers are now worried about the MB and are telling him to ratchet it the hell back, that their participation “should not be on the table.”

    I guess they weren’t buying what Claptrap was selling.  And good on them for it.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    That was my assumption, JB – I was going to check their bona fides this morning.  Thanks for the info!

  • PortiaElizabeth

    I just found this op-ed piece on israelinationalnews.com and worry that Israel might consider using nuclear options if provoked:

    A message from Jerusalem should now be sent to Cairo, telling it that whoever comes to power must respect the accord. Jerusalem must declare that If the new regime abrogates even the smallest clause of the treaty, this will be seen as the right to tear the whole treaty apart.
    While Egypt may seek war with Israel, she must understand that Israel’s people and armed forces are ready and willing to inflict painful blows in such an event. Sinai will be seen as occupied territory and Israel will feel free to regain all of parts of the region when and where it suits it best.
    The Egyptians should also be made aware that the pain of conventional wars of the past will be but a drop in the ocean in the numbers of dead Egyptians should they foolishly seek to attack the region’s only superpower.

  • kenoshamarge

    RRRA, I think, in defense of the 46% who “think” that Oblahblah is doing a good job that their problem is they watch the news. We all know that you can’t get any facts from the news but some people still think that their local station, or affiliate is telling them the truth and presenting them with the facts. Those in the know, know that just ain’t so.

    Others are simply partisans who voted for the phony and are not yet willing to accept the fact that they made a mistake. For some folks that’s just too big a step to take. It’s a way of accepting responsibility and we know that we as a nation are no longer very good at that. At least large numbers of us are not.

    Me, I willing to admit that I voted for some real putzes just because they had a “D” after their name. This old dog has learned a new trick and now is an Independent who votes for the person not the party although it would take one hell of a person for me to vote for a Dem until the current leadership is gone. (Look what happened to the good voters who thought they could “trust” Joe Manchin not to knuckle under to the leadership.)

  • Blue Moon

    Obama is finishing up what his mother started.  She was in with Bill Ayers and Bernadine D. and this is the culmanation of what was happening in the 1960′s.  I don’t, for a minute, believe OB is this stupid.  He know what he is doing.  Bring down the middle east and by the time we go to the polls in 2012 and vote his azz out there will be an uprising and revolution here like no one has ever dreamed of.  This man is dangerous.  He has sent Code Pink to do his bidding for him and look what they have accomplished.  OB is a muslim and you cannot–EVER–change from a Muslim to a Christian.  It would be his death knell if he did.  JMO

  • DAVE

    Everyone associated with this administration is clueless, not just the CIA !!

  • NOOGAN!!

    Here’s Sharia Law:

    February 10, 2011Afghan Proposal Would Clamp Down on Women’s SheltersBy ALISSA J. RUBIN

    KABUL, Afghanistan — After her parents threw her out of the house for refusing to marry a 52-year-old widower with five children, Sabra, 18, boarded a bus that dropped her, afraid and confused, in downtown Kabul. She slept in a mosque for days, barely eating, until a woman took pity on her and put her in touch with human rights workers, who escorted her to a women’s shelter.
    That journey — terrifying enough for a young woman who had never ventured beyond the corner bazaar — would become harder still under new rules being drafted by the Afghan government that women’s advocates say will deter the most vulnerable women and girls from seeking refuge and are placing shelters under siege.
    The new rules speak to the suspicions that women’s shelters still generate in this deeply conservative society, where the shelters have come to symbolize the competition between modern values and traditional Afghan ways. Many believe their very existence at best encourages girls to run away from home and at worst are fronts for brothels.
    The changes in the law would require a woman like Sabra to justify her flight to an eight-member government panel, which would determine whether she needed to be in a shelter or should be sent to jail or back home, where she would be at risk of a beating or even death. She would also have to undergo a physical exam that could include a virginity test.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/world/asia/11shelter.html
    See Also:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/10/us-afghanistan-women-idUSTRE7193NB20110210

  • +

    Amy,

    We can all do “what ifs” or speculate?

    But, your original fear-mongering around the MB being some kind of extremist violent group does not hold any water. I have given you numerous articles/analysis from a lot of different sources (ex.CIA, Jewish Daily, academics, Carnegie Institute, serious policy analysts and from the MB themselves) that all say the group is a moderate group that opposes violence, has no particularly strict interpretation of Sharia Law and wants to work within a democratic system. 

    I am not sure what you are complaining about. That ”possibly” someone in the MB want to relationship with Israel to change? So what? I am sure there are many in the MB that don’t want the relationship to change and there is no proof amongst the wider population of Egypt that they want anything to change with Israel. And frankly a little extra pressue on Israel might do Israel some good.

  • +

    Amy & JB,

    Great Amy you can quote a couple of readers comments who have no particularly expertise or knowledge in Egypt and the MB. I could go get a generic comment from a nobody that would say just about anything. That is not a credible comment or analysis.

    As far as trying to discredit the Jewish Daily, the source of this article, that is bullshit. First of all, so what if the article is written in Washingon. It is still done by someone who writes for a Jewish Newspaper, which is powerful if there are Israelis that are not particulary worried or are not fear-mongering about the MB.

    Also, what is more important is the sources of the statements made in the article: Washington Institute for Near East Policy, political science professor at George Washington University, Stephen P. Cohen, president of the Institute for Middle East Peace and Development (this guy is even Jewish), Marshall Breger, a Catholic University law professor who was President Ronald Reagan’s liaison to the Jewish community etc. etc. etc.

    These are real, important and credible sources of analysis on the MB and Egypt, unlike Amy’s very weak and not very credible sources: FOX, extremist anti-muslim websites, The Daily Caller, etc. etc.

    Amy, what is your point of all this? Seems to me you are just fear-mongering and being anti-muslim. You and NQ have a long history of being anti-muslim. That is pretty lame and narrow minded. I thought your use to represent a pretty liberal church that was open to all kinds.

  • HARP

    I agree. I would also let it be known that the “leaders” and their families will be the first targets. That is what Obama calls having “some skin in the game.”

  • +

    Noogan,

    You have no idea what you are talking about? Even within the different sects of Isalm there are different interpretations of Sharia law. The Sunnis and the Shia have very different interpretations of Sharia law. In addition, moderates and extremists within Islam interpret Sharia much differently.

    Modern perspectives on Sharia
    Muslims have responded in a variety of ways to the forces of modernity. These responses cross the lines of tradition, sect and school. They affect the way Sharia is interpreted by the individual in their personal lives, and the extent to which Sharia is implemented in the public sphere by the state. These diverse movements can be referred to collectively as contemporary Sharia(s).”

    Otto, Jan Michiel. Sharia and National Law in Muslim Countries: Tensions and Opportunities for Dutch and EU Foreign Policy . Amsterdam University Press, 2008, pp. 10

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia#cite_note-35

    You mention that you have done lots of reading on Sharia, which supports your claim that their is only one interpretation of Sharia. Can you let me know what you have been reading that says that? That would be very interesting to read. I would love to see a credible academic piece that says that all muslims are the same and interpret Sharia exactly the same.

    My own view is that a strict or extreme interpretation of Sharia is not compatible with modern life. However, if people on this planet want to live by their own codes and rules, like the Hasidic jews, who actually are very similar to strict muslims, who am I to say.

    Great, anyone can point to extreme examples of any religion. However, you cannot generalize and say all 1.6 billion muslims on this planet are the same. The vast majority of muslims, like most of those in Egypt, are moderate and are just like you and me.

    Again, the Muslim Brotherhood is no different than the Christain Coalition or Evangelicals in the U.S. They are a moderate muslim religious group.

  • +

    Betts,

    Where did you get that information that Sheik Khalid Mohammad, Mohamma Atta and Zawahari were part of the Muslim Brotherhood? There is no proof of that? They were part of Al Qaeda, which has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood. They are not part of a MB offshot. Far from it. There are a few ex-MB in extremist groups, but these extremist groups have largely been at war with the MB. They are rivals and arch enemies.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Noogan, honestly, it is not worth your while.  No matter how many facts are presented abt the reality of Sharia Law, or anything else, for that matter, it will not make a damn bit of difference to someone like this who passes pff an article as if it came from Israel, and does nothing but attack and belittle.

    Democrats like Kristen Powers, who worked in the Cllnton Admin., have said flat out, from family IN Egypt, that the MB is BAD for Egypt.  Doug Schoen, a pollster for the Clinton Admin., and still a Democratic pollster, has said FLAT OUT that the MB will lilely take over Egypt, and it will be bad for the USA.

    The insistence to attack and name call outweighs critical thinking on the issues, so really – while I appreciate your links, do it for us, not for those who are not willing to engage in honest dialogue.

  • helenk
  • helenk
  • +

    “SHE IS ALSO A CLAIRVOYANT”  !!!!

    I love this post by wbboei. It nicely sums up what NQ is all about. Tinfoil hat time! 

    More great insight from this post:

    “SOROS OPERATIVES LIT THE FUSE IN EGYPT”

    “LEAST OF ALL BIG MEDIA WHO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOX GET THEIR CONTENT DIRECTLY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE–WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE STATE MEDIA.” 

    This is great NQ stuff. Par for the NQ course. Glenn Beck is in the house!

  • JB in VA

    What strikes me about it is how reminiscent this whole situation is of the run-up to the Iraq war.  Remember how “everybody knew” there were WMD in Iraq, and Saddam Hussein was a mortal danger to Israel, Europe and even the US, although credible voices — muted by the media — were saying it was all a crock. 

    By all means let’s push through a “people’s revolution” representing less than 1% of the Egyptian people, and let’s do it NOW. By all means let’s destabilize the entire Middle East, throw longtime allies under the bus, and let the secular, peaceful, justice-seeking Muslim Brotherhood lead us to ”real” democracy, and let’s do it NOW. 

    After all, our government and world leaders always get it right, and the media always know better than anyone. Don’t they?   

    I’m so sick of all this made-up and/or ignorant, self-serving sh*t. 

  • helenk

    today is Gibbs last day.
    do we sing Hit the road Jack or goodnight sweetheart.
    me I like hit the road Jack and wish he would take backtrack with him

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/11/AR2011021102248.html

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • jrterrier

    IMF calls for dollar alternative

    on another front, this can’t be good.  or maybe it’s the same front  — our incompetence.  http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/markets/dollar/index.htm

  • helenk
  • Puma.for.Life

    I wonder if he has some form of dementia.  He even looks a bit dazed.  He needs a physical exam.

  • helenk

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-egypt-military-idUSTRE71A2D120110211

    Does it seem to anybody else that ElBaradei is pushing for violence?
    so much for that peace prize he got. I guess it means as much as backtrack’s.

  • helenk
  • helenk

    statement from Iran.
    freedom is good in your house , but not mine.
    together we can get rid of Isreal and the USA in the mideast.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110211/D9LAIKV80.html

  • helenk

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/41528763

    no one is flocking to the dollar in the ME unrest

  • AbigailAdams

    I love the way Malkin can talk while both exhaling and inhaling.  She would be a formidable debate opponent. 

  • helenk

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0211/w_h_on_mubaraks_move_to_sharm_elsheikh_5ae2c32d-c65d-4df8-8d58-1c293104a61d.html

    backtrack says Mubarak leaving Cairo is a good first step.

    Well backtrack moving to kenya would be good for our country and the world

  • helenk

    hey oprha I will show respect for backtrack , when backtrack shows repect for the country.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0211/just_a_little_bit_868941d7-3826-4a53-9390-43550fabcd93.html

  • Cindy

    helenk——perfect song for Gibbs and everyone else in WH!LOL

  • helenk
  • Blue Moon

    This blew my mind.  WHO does Oprah think she is anyway?  Never heard her speaking up for Bush or Clinton during their times in office.  OB baby has had enough of our time and money to learn the ropes.  As Moochelle said during an interview with Oprah–”OB is not yet ready for the Presidency”.  Truer words were never spoken.  Yet she allowed him to do it and look where we are at today.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Jackie?

    This can’t be our usual Jackie………..unless she’s recently been visited by Max von Sydow, the Pope, a tanker full of holy water, and a truck load of bibles signed by Jesus himself.

  • sandi78

    The “real” media is too busy telling us that Bristol Palin is “planning” to run for office.

  • greenlantern
  • oowawa

    Oa, there’s about as much chance of this being our “old Jackie” as there is of it being Jackie Gleason….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sharia is Sharia! Regardless of interpretation.
     
    We do not need it anywhere near the western world.

    Also let us not forget the young boys who are abused too.
    Popular in Afghanistan, “dancing boys” are actually sex slaves, lured off the streets by pimps, taught to dance and sing, to wear make-up and to dress like girls. Then they are made to perform before large groups of men. ALL of them are sexually abused. More here

  • helenk
  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sharia is Sharia! Regardless of interpretation.  
       
    We do not need it anywhere near the western world.  
     
    Also let us not forget the young boys who are abused too.  

    Popular in Afghanistan, “dancing boys” are actually sex slaves, lured off the streets by pimps, taught to dance and sing, to wear make-up and to dress like girls. Then they are made to perform before large groups of men. ALL of them are sexually abused. More here

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sharia is Sharia! Regardless of interpretation.
     
    We do not need it anywhere near the western world.

    Popular in Afghanistan, “dancing boys” are actually sex slaves, lured off the streets by pimps, taught to dance and sing, to wear make-up and to dress like girls. Then they are made to perform before large groups of men. ALL of them are sexually abused. More here

  • helenk

    live video of  crowd in Egypt chanting about freedom and they brought down a regime.

    so where does Egypt go from here?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41528247#41528247

  • Cindy

    Onofre  and Oowawa—-LOL! I was wondering the same thing………..

  • Peggy Sue

    Extraordinary!  Mubarak has actually stepped down.  A stunning achievement with a minimum of bloodshed.  Now the hard work begins but I have great respect for the Egyptian people.  This is enormous.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sharia is Sharia! Regardless of interpretation.  
       
    We do not need it anywhere near the western world.  
     
    Also let’s not forget the young boys who are abused…    Popular in Afghanistan, “dancing boys” are actually sex slaves, lured off the streets by pimps, taught to dance and sing, to wear make-up and to dress like girls. Then they are made to perform before large groups of men. ALL of them are sexually abused. More here  

  • greenlantern

    This is his vacation home. Not exactly exile, though the WH and LSM will try to spin it that way.

  • HARP

    Well, there goes the Egyptian tourism industry.

  • SeriouslyStrongWoman

    Breaking NEWS-Mubarak does finally step down.
    Armed Forces and Speaker of the Parliament will be in charge.
    This can last for two years. Per Egypt Constitution.
    Best solution so far.
    Mubarak gone. No Sulieman, No Muslim Brotherhood. ————— Good! This is an administration run by childish, inexperienced group, whose half-baked attempts at pushing causes for the sake of liberal ideology is causing he ruination of this country both here and on the international stage. ————————- Comments from the blogs around the web.  This in bc of babyO, it is the decision of how to work this out in Egypt.  Now, they are waiting on a press conference from babyO.  I am sure he is going to take credit.  I pray the leaders that step up are not the MB CULT!  So, the military will be in charge. 
    WHEN CAN WE DO THIS IN THE USA TO GET RID OF babyO, LOL?

  • SeriouslyStrongWoman

    Breaking NEWS-Mubarak does finally step down.  
    Armed Forces and Speaker of the Parliament will be in charge.  
    This can last for two years. Per Egypt Constitution.  
    Best solution so far.  
    Mubarak gone. No Sulieman, No Muslim Brotherhood. ————— Good! This is an administration run by childish, inexperienced group, whose half-baked attempts at pushing causes for the sake of liberal ideology is causing he ruination of this country both here and on the international stage. ————————- Comments from the blogs around the web.  This is NOT bc of babyO, it is the decision of how to work this out in Egypt.  Now, they are waiting on a press conference from babyO.  I am sure he is going to take credit.  I pray the leaders that step up are not the MB CULT!  So, the military will be in charge.   

    WHEN CAN WE DO THIS IN THE USA TO GET RID OF babyO, LOL?

  • oowawa

    Peggy Sue, this is an enormous question mark followed by an enormous exclamation point.  And they celebrated in the streets of Iran after the Shah had to leave town….

  • helenk

    this guy from google who is said to have started the protests in Egypt, will he stay with google and forment unrest in other parts of the world?
    Will he do it in google’s name. I guess google is not just information any more.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • stodghie

    minus, stupid is as stupid does. and because you are so clueless, that applies to you.

  • Peggy Sue

    oowawa, there’s no doubt that this is fraught with danger.  Change always is.  And it could fall apart in a New York minute.  But the Egyptian people deserve huge kudos for what they managed to pull off–ousting a seemingly intractable leader with a minumum of bloodshed, putting themselves on the front line with no guarantees.

    The really hard, important work begins now in forming a civil and hopefully democratic society, building and nurturing the institutions they’ll need for the future.  But this is huge.  And yes, there was Iran.  But we also saw the transformation of South Africa.  Not perfect but far better than it was.

  • oowawa

    R-E-S-P-E-C-T

  • wbboei

    I must tell you I have grown more pessimistic about this whole thing over night,  It is one of those unforunate situations where the worst cas scenario is also the most likely scenario although most people are caught up in the spectacle of watching a 3 alarm fire.  The main point here which is beyond cavil, is that Obama was not negligent or inexperienced when he publicly humiiated Mubarak.  And as we have seen with others he gets his opponent to sing he praises before he slips the knife between their shoulder blades.  The starting point for dealing with this guy is to recogiize who he is where he comes from and that he does not have the interests fo this coutry in mind anymore than the Chicago Machine has the interests fo Chicago in misd.  The American Public it seems is too naive to grasp this essential truth.

    During the course of this past two years, many cherished beliefs about our political system and the world have proven to be hollow shibboleths.  Two years ago, I would agree with you that Israel would not allow their existence to be threatened by Iran or others.  But think about what has occurred since Obama was elected, and I am sure you will agree that Israel cannot control many of these event.  It is just the nature of things.. What I do not want to see is Obama give Bibi the same treatement that Obama gave Mubarek.  If you think back to the time he left Bibi waiting while he and his wife had dinner upstairs.  Personal snubs are a big thing for him.  The bottom line: I do not think the jewish people in this country can or will stop him.  I have Jewish friends who are of the same vies, and they bedevil me with questions like will we ever wake up to the fact that he is a Muslim? Will we ever face the fact that he is not on our side?

    A word about my friend.  The “gift” that she has is not alway correct.It comes with the territory. Nevertheless, roughly one month before the Gulf disaster she had a dreaem about Obama swimming in a black sea. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Dearborn : Arab Festival 2009: Sharia in the US

  • oowawa

    “so where does Egypt go from here?”

    Barack will let them know what is acceptable and unacceptable–probably standing on a huge stage with styrofoam pyramids in the background….

  • PssttCmere

    Not soon enough Berd…

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • PssttCmere

    Ferd….Not soon enough!!

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • wbboei

    Even with the focus on Egypt, Americans can’t escape the pain of unemployment and problems at home.  It’s like the inmates are running the asylum.
    —————————————
    Funny you should say that.  I raised essentially the same question with my friend.  Her response was Americans may not be able to escape the pain of domestic problems, but he will by blaming others, by introducing high faleutin programs on the eve of the election, by destroying his Republican opposition. And CNN, NBC and ABC will back him 100%,  And if he gets the sense that those fires are starting to heat up, he can wag the dog. 

  • oowawa

    Peggy Sue, I can’t give the Egyptian mob huge kudos any more than I could give the Iranian mobs huge kudos.  The events of those days are too fresh in my mind.  What I see is people who can be and will be manipulated by shrewd Muslim extremists.  I can’t give them “kudos” any more than the people reading their newspapers in Tel Aviv can give them kudos. 

  • Onofre’s arm

    This picture made me think of something. Every time Muslims kneel and bow toward Mecca, they’re ‘mooning’ the rest of the world. Unintentional? I doubt it.

  • oowawa

    LOL–Also, unless you’re in the front row, you are receiving an in-your-face reminder of your significance as an individual in the Islamic world view….

  • oowawa

    “and let these two great groups come up with a plan for Egypt”

    Well, actually the MB does have a plan for Egypt.  And for Israel too!!!

  • EWard

    After Muburak’s resignation, chaos and the MB will follow.  After the Shah left, the NYSlimes were comparing the Ayatollah to Ghandi.  The Iranians are under the dictatorship of a Theocracy Nazi regime. 

    Where are the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence or a Jefferson, Washington in Egypt?  NBC, CNN, and ABC are all shills for Obama and the public knows it.  This is why blogs, the Telegraph, and others are crucial to getting the truth out.

  • Peggy Sue

    That’s the difference, oowawa.  You see a mob.  I see ordinary people who want a better future, a decent life for themselves and loved ones.  Wanting to control your own destiny as a people isn’t a bad thing.  In fact, it’s downright American. 

    Perception is everything!

  • Madame deFarge

    I agree with what you say.  Very obvious that he kept his POV about joining the Muslims if push came to shove.  I feel so helpless sometimes with people who can’t see him for who he is.  When someone tells you flat out who and what  he’s all about…believe him.

    Not to make light of this situation but is your friend sure he was swimming in a black sea and not drowning?  BTW, I do believe in precognigance and we’ve all experienced it on some level (you think of someone and the phone rings and it’s them)…the gifted ones are those who can pay attention to what they’re picking up.

  • Madame deFarge

    This made me wonder if Obama could become an Iman after he leaves office?  I know he’d relish all thos supplicants.

  • Madame deFarge

    This made me wonder if Obama could become an Iman after he leaves office?  I know he’d relish all those supplicants….and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

    OA, they’re facing East toward Mecca, only mooning the West.

  • Madame deFarge

    Don’t forget throwing Marcos out of the Philippines.  They have managed to hold a 90% Catholic majority, keeping the terrorists at bay.

  • Madame deFarge

    He and his ego are too big for Google now.  He’s the Head Revolutionary of the ME. But he is faux humble.

    I’m pretty sure the Mossad has his current address…nah, that would be too obvious.  I’m sure the other heads of state in the ME are considering how to deal with revolution via twitter.

  • oowawa

    The fact is that we are talking about a Muslim country that borders Israel.  There is something called “The Muslim Brotherhood” that is a major player.  This is the lens through which I view this event.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Cindy, this is the Jackie of the East. The Jackie of the West had a house fall down on top of her.

  • Cindy

    Galt—so, we’re not in Kansas anymore??! LOL

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Probably a few miles from Upshitscreek.

  • Cindy

     Upshitscreek.

    Hey Galt—-you could open a paddle concession there… to accompany your pizza bidness! LOL

  • Cindy

    Upshitscreek

    Hey Galt! You should open a paddle concession there….to accompany your pizza bidness!

  • AC

    I think I’m fallin’ for this Jackie!

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I’m with you, but that sqeeky-high-pitched voice is like nails on a chalkboard!

  • Cindy

    AC—-oh, sure, Mr. Fickle—until the next  Jackie comes along…LOL!

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Added to my virtual to-do list. Thanks.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Spoken in a Basil Fawlty under the breath kinda way: (Don’t mention this Jackie may be a man!)

  • Cindy

    LOL Galt…..

  • wbboei

    My oh my.  You forgot to leave your name.  But you cannot fool me.  I know who you are . . . Neville Chamberlain troll.   I have in my hand a letter which will give us peace in our time.  Hey Neville baby: put on your top hat and  and don’t trip over your umbrella on the way out the door. When  these things come to pass, I fully expect that you and the rest of the ignoranti will assume the fetal position, call everyone else a racist, and continue to worship Obama. 

  • oowawa

    The “black sea” could have been the Chicago cesspool in which he was spawned….

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    .

  • +

    Amy,

    How about some real facts and not your continuous bullshit. Kristen Powers has absolutely no expertise and knowledge of Egypt and the muslim world. Her expertise is restricted to a business man brother-in-law who lives in Egypt who she occasionally talks to. That is the extent of the source of your bullshits facts. What does Doug Schoen know about Egypt. The guys is a U.S. pollster. What possibly could a pollster know about Egypt and Islam. Any idiot that thinks the MB will take-over Egypt has no idea what they are talking about. The only name calling around here is done by you NQbots. 

  • TeakWoodKite

    Rolf.

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