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		<title>By: Lara Logan&#8217;s Nightmare Unveiled : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara Logan&#8217;s Nightmare Unveiled : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one of her &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; colleagues, to be aired on May 1, 2011. You may recall I wrote apiece on her attack at the hands of an Egyptian mob, as well as the assaults other female journalists have endured [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of her &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; colleagues, to be aired on May 1, 2011. You may recall I wrote apiece on her attack at the hands of an Egyptian mob, as well as the assaults other female journalists have endured [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Reads: The Almighty Hand and Being Mad as Hell! &#171; Sky Dancing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday Reads: The Almighty Hand and Being Mad as Hell! &#171; Sky Dancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one would have thought after what happened to Lara Logan, and a number of other women journalists in Egypt recently, that maybe, just maybe, the MSM would [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is The MSM Hiding Attacks On Women Journalists? : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is The MSM Hiding Attacks On Women Journalists? : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a Unity rally (more on that below).Ironic, ain&#8217;t it?Anyway, one would have thought after what happened to Lara Logan, and a number of other women journalists in Egypt recently, that maybe, just maybe, the MSM would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a Unity rally (more on that below).Ironic, ain&#8217;t it?Anyway, one would have thought after what happened to Lara Logan, and a number of other women journalists in Egypt recently, that maybe, just maybe, the MSM would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: +</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Dear right wing blogosphere and also Bill Maher: You can&#8217;t generalize about women&#8217;s position in Muslim countries based on a reprehensible mob attack on CBS reporter &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/15/entertainment/la-et-0216-lara-logan-20110216&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lara Logan&lt;/a&gt;. Generalizing about a whole group of people based on a single incident is called &#8220;bigotry.&#8221; It is also a logical fallacy (for wingnuts challenged by six syllables in a row, that means, &#8216;when your brain doesn&#8217;t work right&#8217;) known as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallacies.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#8216;Hasty Generalization.&#8217;&lt;/a&gt; Nobody seems to note that allegedly helpless Egyptian women were the ones who saved Logan, or that Anderson Cooper was also attacked.

Some other examples of reporters or celebrities being assaulted by crowds are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/13/national/main3933895.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/09/world/main7134510.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; Wingnuts, and also Bill Maher, who do not immediately make generalizations on these bases about large groups of Westerners are wusses.
Note to Muslim-hater &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/bill-maher-criticizes-treatment-of-women-muslim-world-gets-heckled-video&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill Maher&lt;/a&gt;, who should know better: It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women%27s_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not true that women cannot vote in 20 Muslim countries&lt;/a&gt;, and please stop generalizing about 1.5 billion Muslims based on the 22 million people in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, the only place where women cannot drive and where men can vote (in municipal elections) but women cannot. It would be like generalizing from the Amish in Pennsylvania to all people of Christian heritage and wondering what is with Christianity and its fascination with horses and buggies.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Dear right wing blogosphere and also Bill Maher: You can&rsquo;t generalize about women&rsquo;s position in Muslim countries based on a reprehensible mob attack on CBS reporter <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/15/entertainment/la-et-0216-lara-logan-20110216" rel="nofollow">Lara Logan</a>. Generalizing about a whole group of people based on a single incident is called &ldquo;bigotry.&rdquo; It is also a logical fallacy (for wingnuts challenged by six syllables in a row, that means, &lsquo;when your brain doesn&rsquo;t work right&rsquo;) known as the <a href="http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallacies.html" rel="nofollow">&lsquo;Hasty Generalization.&rsquo;</a> Nobody seems to note that allegedly helpless Egyptian women were the ones who saved Logan, or that Anderson Cooper was also attacked.</p>
<p>Some other examples of reporters or celebrities being assaulted by crowds are <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/13/national/main3933895.shtml" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/09/world/main7134510.shtml" rel="nofollow">here.</a> Wingnuts, and also Bill Maher, who do not immediately make generalizations on these bases about large groups of Westerners are wusses.<br />
Note to Muslim-hater <a href="http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/bill-maher-criticizes-treatment-of-women-muslim-world-gets-heckled-video" rel="nofollow">Bill Maher</a>, who should know better: It is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women%27s_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries" rel="nofollow">not true that women cannot vote in 20 Muslim countries</a>, and please stop generalizing about 1.5 billion Muslims based on the 22 million people in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, the only place where women cannot drive and where men can vote (in municipal elections) but women cannot. It would be like generalizing from the Amish in Pennsylvania to all people of Christian heritage and wondering what is with Christianity and its fascination with horses and buggies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JB in VA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB in VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katmoon, this is a good summary, but one very important First Amendment item not discussed is Freedom of Speech, whereas&#160;under sharia &quot;blasphemy&quot; -- anything deviating from, criticizing, or&#160;questioning&#160;the&#160;Koran or&#160;Mohammed, etc. -- is punishable by death.&#160; IMO this&#160;makes it impossible to reform and modernize Islam, as has happened with Christianity and Judaism:&#160; Any Muslim&#160;who tries knows he/she can&#160;be charged with blasphemy and killed.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katmoon, this is a good summary, but one very important First Amendment item not discussed is Freedom of Speech, whereas&nbsp;under sharia &#8220;blasphemy&#8221; &#8212; anything deviating from, criticizing, or&nbsp;questioning&nbsp;the&nbsp;Koran or&nbsp;Mohammed, etc. &#8212; is punishable by death.&nbsp; IMO this&nbsp;makes it impossible to reform and modernize Islam, as has happened with Christianity and Judaism:&nbsp; Any Muslim&nbsp;who tries knows he/she can&nbsp;be charged with blasphemy and killed.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awwww.....A face only a mullah could love. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awwww&#8230;..A face only a mullah could love.</p>
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		<title>By: Prime Obot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prime Obot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slim, it has been my experience here that comments tend to be really light on postings that don&#039;t directly lead to writing about how much you hate Obama.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim, it has been my experience here that comments tend to be really light on postings that don&#8217;t directly lead to writing about how much you hate Obama.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: elspeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elspeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am as outraged as anybody on this subject, but before we jump to conclusions, we might want to consider that during the earliest (usually the most true) news, it was said there was no rape. Indeed, the whole thing sounds unlikely to me, and I have lived in the Middle East (admittedly a tame part of it.) A handy group of 20 soldiers and a handy group of women saving the day seems a little contrived.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://temorisblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/rape-women-stripped-what-really-happened-to-lara-logan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://temorisblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/rape-women-stripped-what-really-happened-to-lara-logan/&lt;/a&gt;
Nevertheless, it could happen, and&#160;any sort of assault (I was once almost a victim and only saved by group of three men who happened to be out on their porch at night) is terrible and my apologies if I offend anyone. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am as outraged as anybody on this subject, but before we jump to conclusions, we might want to consider that during the earliest (usually the most true) news, it was said there was no rape. Indeed, the whole thing sounds unlikely to me, and I have lived in the Middle East (admittedly a tame part of it.) A handy group of 20 soldiers and a handy group of women saving the day seems a little contrived.<br />
<a href="http://temorisblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/rape-women-stripped-what-really-happened-to-lara-logan/" rel="nofollow">http://temorisblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/rape-women-stripped-what-really-happened-to-lara-logan/</a><br />
Nevertheless, it could happen, and&nbsp;any sort of assault (I was once almost a victim and only saved by group of three men who happened to be out on their porch at night) is terrible and my apologies if I offend anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: JB in VA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB in VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ears don&#039;t seem big enough, and the skin is&#160;a shade too light. &#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ears don&#8217;t seem big enough, and the skin is&nbsp;a shade too light. &nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Madame deFarge</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/56776/what-really-happened-to-lara-logan-who-wasnt-the-only-one/#comment-1462263</link>
		<dc:creator>Madame deFarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Madame deFarge</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/56776/what-really-happened-to-lara-logan-who-wasnt-the-only-one/#comment-1462260</link>
		<dc:creator>Madame deFarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.&#160; Simply because it &lt;i&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; be that way doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t.&#160; Western women aren&#039;t going to win this centuries old battle.&#160; It has to be won by ME women.&#160; Ambition at the stake of your safety is not smart.&#160; There must hundreds of other ways to advance ones career than chance a &quot;wilding&quot; by a mob of filthy neanderthrals. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.&nbsp; Simply because it <i>shouldn&#8217;t</i> be that way doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t.&nbsp; Western women aren&#8217;t going to win this centuries old battle.&nbsp; It has to be won by ME women.&nbsp; Ambition at the stake of your safety is not smart.&nbsp; There must hundreds of other ways to advance ones career than chance a &#8220;wilding&#8221; by a mob of filthy neanderthrals.</p>
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		<title>By: Madame deFarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madame deFarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Katmoon but be discreet and careful.&#160; There&#039;s no honor among these dogs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Katmoon but be discreet and careful.&nbsp; There&#8217;s no honor among these dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: BINKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BINKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this link has been posted but if half of the story about Lara Logan&#039;s attack is true, it&#039;s more than horrendous. &#160;(H/T Radio Patriot):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/18/the-controversial-and-shocking-details-about-the-lara-logan-attack/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/18/the-controversial-and-shocking-details-about-the-lara-logan-attack/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this link has been posted but if half of the story about Lara Logan&#8217;s attack is true, it&#8217;s more than horrendous. &nbsp;(H/T Radio Patriot):</p>
<p><a href="http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/18/the-controversial-and-shocking-details-about-the-lara-logan-attack/" rel="nofollow">http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/18/the-controversial-and-shocking-details-about-the-lara-logan-attack/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Madame deFarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madame deFarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharia is in direct conflict with our constitution and they think they can erase it by chipping, chipping away at it.&#160; We have to have legislators who are bold and unafraid of them...as the confrontation Allen West had with the guy from CAIR...a beautiful thing to watch. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharia is in direct conflict with our constitution and they think they can erase it by chipping, chipping away at it.&nbsp; We have to have legislators who are bold and unafraid of them&#8230;as the confrontation Allen West had with the guy from CAIR&#8230;a beautiful thing to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy in Ks.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy in Ks.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rev. Amy for your insightful article.&#160; I fear what happened to Lara Logan is not an exception but is something quite commonplace in that part of the world.&#160; Many years ago, a co-worker (American) told me of her Egyptian experience in Cairo.&#160; She accompanied her husband on a business trip to Egypt.&#160; He was to be in Cairo for a few months.&#160; However she left the country before her husband&#039;s job was completed&#160; because she was a virtual prisoner in the hot, filthy, fly-infested apartment in which they lived.&#160; She could not leave the apartment without a male escort.&#160; To sight-see or travel by herself was extremely dangerous.&#160; Her husband, on the other hand was treated like royalty and loved the place. He didn&#039;t understand his wife&#039;s problems.&#160; This was the &quot;beginning of the end&quot; of their marriage.
I also have a sister who lived many years ago for about a year in Saudia Arabia with her first husband - also American.&#160; They lived on an American compound.&#160; Her husband left very early in the morning for his job.&#160; My sister who finally found employment with an international firm, proof reading the firm&#039;s correspondence that was written in &quot;English&quot;, could not even drive herself to work.&#160; She had to have a male escort.&#160; There was a &quot;coffee boy&quot; whose job it was to bring my sister and other employees their morning coffee.&#160; He was a young Saudi male who frequently made passes at her.&#160; Her protests to him didn&#039;t stop his behavior and it was only when she went to the &quot;top&quot; that this young man&#039;s outrageous behavior finally stopped.&#160;

Another incident my sister experienced while in Saudia Arabia reminded me of one of Ms. Johnson&#039;s descriptions.&#160; My sister and her husband were in a crowded open-air market.&#160; Somehow my sister got separated from her husband.&#160; She looked up to see if she could see her husband.&#160; In doing so, she accidentally made eye contact with an Arab male standing close by her.&#160; The next think she knew she felt the deliberate brushing of a hand across her crotch.&#160; She moved away as fast as she could and didn&#039;t look up again.&#160; She literally found her husband by looking at the ground and people&#039;s shoes.&#160; She was very lucky.

My sister also noted while attending a party for women only, that the Saudi women were dressed and made up in a seductive manner while the Western women like my sister were dressed in conservative business attire.&#160; My sister was of the opinion that the women in Saudi Arabia - particularly those of the upper-class - had been so repressed and objectified that even when they were only with women, they still saw themselves only as &quot;sexual objects&quot;.&#160; Very, very tragic!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rev. Amy for your insightful article.&nbsp; I fear what happened to Lara Logan is not an exception but is something quite commonplace in that part of the world.&nbsp; Many years ago, a co-worker (American) told me of her Egyptian experience in Cairo.&nbsp; She accompanied her husband on a business trip to Egypt.&nbsp; He was to be in Cairo for a few months.&nbsp; However she left the country before her husband&#8217;s job was completed&nbsp; because she was a virtual prisoner in the hot, filthy, fly-infested apartment in which they lived.&nbsp; She could not leave the apartment without a male escort.&nbsp; To sight-see or travel by herself was extremely dangerous.&nbsp; Her husband, on the other hand was treated like royalty and loved the place. He didn&#8217;t understand his wife&#8217;s problems.&nbsp; This was the &#8220;beginning of the end&#8221; of their marriage.<br />
I also have a sister who lived many years ago for about a year in Saudia Arabia with her first husband &#8211; also American.&nbsp; They lived on an American compound.&nbsp; Her husband left very early in the morning for his job.&nbsp; My sister who finally found employment with an international firm, proof reading the firm&#8217;s correspondence that was written in &#8220;English&#8221;, could not even drive herself to work.&nbsp; She had to have a male escort.&nbsp; There was a &#8220;coffee boy&#8221; whose job it was to bring my sister and other employees their morning coffee.&nbsp; He was a young Saudi male who frequently made passes at her.&nbsp; Her protests to him didn&#8217;t stop his behavior and it was only when she went to the &#8220;top&#8221; that this young man&#8217;s outrageous behavior finally stopped.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another incident my sister experienced while in Saudia Arabia reminded me of one of Ms. Johnson&#8217;s descriptions.&nbsp; My sister and her husband were in a crowded open-air market.&nbsp; Somehow my sister got separated from her husband.&nbsp; She looked up to see if she could see her husband.&nbsp; In doing so, she accidentally made eye contact with an Arab male standing close by her.&nbsp; The next think she knew she felt the deliberate brushing of a hand across her crotch.&nbsp; She moved away as fast as she could and didn&#8217;t look up again.&nbsp; She literally found her husband by looking at the ground and people&#8217;s shoes.&nbsp; She was very lucky.</p>
<p>My sister also noted while attending a party for women only, that the Saudi women were dressed and made up in a seductive manner while the Western women like my sister were dressed in conservative business attire.&nbsp; My sister was of the opinion that the women in Saudi Arabia &#8211; particularly those of the upper-class &#8211; had been so repressed and objectified that even when they were only with women, they still saw themselves only as &#8220;sexual objects&#8221;.&nbsp; Very, very tragic!</p>
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