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McCain’s Health Care Plan Gets Better Reviews Than Obama’s

According to Robert Carroll’s editorial in the WSJ, Almost Everyone Would Do Better Under the McCain Health Plan:

The McCain health-care insurance tax credit may well be one of the most misunderstood proposals of this presidential election. Barack Obama has been ruthless in his attacks. But the tax credit is highly progressive and will provide a powerful incentive for people to purchase health insurance. These features under normal circumstances should endear Democrats to the proposal.


Mr. Carroll served as deputy assistant secretary for tax analysis at the U.S. Treasury. He is now vice president for economic policy at the Tax Foundation, and an executive-in-residence with American University’s School of Public Affairs:

[McCain] would replace the current income tax exclusion for employer-sponsored health insurance with a refundable tax credit — $5,000 for those who purchase family coverage and $2,500 for individual coverage. Mr. McCain would also reform insurance markets to stem the growth in health insurance premiums.

Further, the rather liberal Tax Policy Center stated the McCain proposals will result in a “net tax benefit” of more than $1,200 for an average tax payer. A recent Lewin Group study estimated savings upwards of $1,400 per family, almost three times the savings a family would get under the Obama plan.

What many may not realize is that the federal government already “spends” roughly $300 billion to $400 billion through the tax code to encourage people to pay for their health care through employer-sponsored health insurance. This subsidy takes the form of the exclusion for employer-sponsored health insurance from both income and payroll taxes.

Still, some 45 million Americans are uninsured; and the growth in health-care spending continues to outpace the growth in incomes and the economy, which portends further increases in the number of uninsured. The employer-based system itself is eroding. Voters should be wondering whether there is a better approach than this subsidy.

Consider the current exclusion. Its value rises with how much someone spends on health care, and how much of this spending is funneled through employer-sponsored health-care coverage. This creates an incentive for people to purchase policies with low deductibles, or which cover routine spending. These policies look a lot less like insurance and more like prefunded spending accounts purchased through employers and managed by insurance companies. Consider homeowners and auto insurance policies. Do these cover routine spending on cleaning the gutters or tuning up a car?

The subsidy encourages people to buy bigger policies that cover more, and leads to greater health-care spending. Moreover, lower deductibles and coverage of routine spending dulls consumers’ sensitivity to price. Reducing the tax bias should result in insurance that is more focused on catastrophic coverage and less on routine spending.

By replacing the income tax exclusion with a fixed, refundable credit, the McCain proposal reduces the tax bias for large insurance policies. Because the credit is for a fixed amount, regardless of how much you spend on health care, it helps break the link between the existing tax subsidy and how much is spent on health care. This improves incentives in the health-care market by reducing the bias that has contributed to such a high level of health-care spending.

Moreover, the credit provides a powerful incentive for people to purchase insurance. The two tax provisions — the new credit and the repeal of the income tax exclusion — on net provide a substantial tax cut of $1.4 trillion over 10 years. Not only do most Americans receive a tax cut under the McCain proposal, but the tax cut is directed toward low and moderate income taxpayers.

Consumer Reports also offers this description:

Senator McCain, would create a deregulated national insurance market, expand individual coverage, and rely on competition to drive costs down. People with serious health problems could join government-subsidized high-risk pools like those that many states run today.

Both candidates agree on a few issues: both want to speed up adoption of electronic record-keeping systems; they also agree on the need for safety and transparency, speeding up the introduction of generic drugs, making it easier to buy drugs from overseas and on coordination of care for those seeing a variety of specialists.

Otherwise, Senator McCain and Senator Obama have radically different health care proposals, which offer “dramatic reforms for people not on Medicare.” Consumer Reports also offered a review of both:

CR analyzed what could happen to five American households under McCain and under Obama. ‘The cases aren’t statistically representative but do highlight the stark contrasts between the plans.’ The review is pretty well balanced and McCain’s plan seems to closely edge out Obama’s in their scenarios.

Mr. Carroll’s article also includes a chart depicting a family of four which is ‘assumed to purchase a $14,000 health insurance policy.’ The picture is striking in that it contradicts Obama’s public comments about McCain’s proposal:

[The] McCain tax credit for the purchase of health insurance exceeds the value of the current exclusion for all income levels shown. Indeed, it generally provides more resources to purchase health insurance than the existing exclusion. The total subsidy for health care would rise from about $3.6 trillion over 10 years today to roughly $5 trillion under his proposal.

Some of the nation’s top economists in the Treasury Dept.’s Office of Analysis and The Lewin Group, a respected private health-care research outfit, estimated that the McCain credit would increase the number of new insureds by as much as 15 to 21 million people.

It is true that many may no longer get their insurance through their employer, but they will be given the resources to purchase insurance on their own.

Will the insurance that is purchased be a generous plan with first dollar coverage or low deductibles? It is much more likely to be a plan with higher deductibles that is more focused on providing true insurance against catastrophic losses rather than a more generous plan that includes a lot of prepayment for routine and predictable medical expenses. But this is precisely one of the objectives of the policy: to reduce the current tax bias that encourages people to funnel routine health expenses through insurance policies.

Mr. Carroll also address the implications of this proposal on the future of entitlement programs and notes ‘this is perhaps the most important aspect of the proposal.’

There is an enormous unfunded liability associated with … Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. If left unchecked, the growth in these programs will nearly double the size of the federal government by 2040, consuming roughly 40% of the nation’s output rather than the 20% today. While the growth in Social Security is largely the result of demographics, the growth in Medicare and Medicaid is also driven by the rapid growth in health-care spending. This is where a proposal like Sen. McCain’s can be so important.

The elimination of the income-tax exclusion should reduce private health-care spending; to the extent this reduces the cost of health care, it should also put downward pressure on the growth of Medicare and Medicaid costs. Thus, by removing the tax bias for more generous health coverage, the McCain health credit also has the potential to provide important dividends to the entitlement problem down the road.

Certainly, Social Security and Medicare are programs that need to be addressed (and protected) sooner rather than later. It is interesting to note that Mr. Carroll feels Senator McCain has a better inroad into solving that problem.

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    • Denise

      API is making a statement that they sold the Michelle Obama tapes to Fox News and they will be aired soon (today).

      Is this is true I hope they air them during the 30 minute Obama commercial.

      • Denise
        • Denise

          Fox News denies negotiating over ‘Michelle Obama tapes’

          http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=78763

          • AnninCA

            This story is dead, obviously. Thanks for the confirmation.

            Someone is spamming here on it. I can’t figure out what they expect to get out of this.

          • Lizzie Struthers

            Please remove this evil person from public office.

            There. I’ve said it.

      • tek

        The Obamercial is airing on Fox News.

        • Denise

          I believe that is Fox local not FoxNews.

      • ObamaISaFRAUD

        This is bogus. I posted a few times at API. The other night I posted a comment about Ed Berg and it being ridiculous that they would have 2 million for a tape. As for the Obama campaign, does anyone believe that they would offer 3 million for it and be so obvious about it?

        Well, my posts are gone. It is just propaganda on that site. If a tape were to come out, API would have nothing to do with it.

        Besides, according to the transcript, Michele Obama usually refers to her husband using his first name, now by calling him “my husband” over and over as reported in the transcript of the fictional tape.

      • katy

        Ignore them, reports are that they are fake and loads of people got the virus when they opened the site. Fox has denied even talking to them. I think they have been working on behalf of Obama to distract.

  • tek

    Yahoo! headlines say that Obama “Leads or is tied in 8 crucial states.” Well, if he’s tied in 8 states, then McCain is also tied in 8 states, but we don’t see that headline. The bias in the media is completely disgusting. If anyone doubts that corporations have taken over this country, there is the evidence.

    • Pragmatist

      That’s why I’m migrating my email account to Google (i.e., gmail).

      Go McCain/Palin!

      • tek

        The trouble with Google is that they spy on you and turn the info over to the government.

    • AnninCA

      Shameless, aren’t they? Today on RCP there’s a pretty good analysis by Dick Morris on the election, who FINALLY is noting the trends that McCain is closing in on Obama. Morris notes that Obama has now fallen to below the magical 50% mark more and more, and that could spell defeat.

    • notrees

      That is exactly the scenario Stephinopholus was giving the other day,saying, “If McCain loses Virginia then he has to win Florida, Pen., Ohio, and one other I can’t remember”. But what does that say about Obama if HE LOSES Virginia? He didn’t say, but I would expect the same scenario to be true for both if it is true for one.

  • notrees

    One fact that is not getting much attention is there will not be monies held out of the next COLA (which will be 5.8% next year)for MEDICARE. Medicare had a surplus in money this year. Social security has always been placed under the General Funds and is therefore used to pay for other government programs and pet projects for which it was not intended. If the laws , rules and regulations were to be enforced that is supposed to protect both social security and medicare from deadbeats and give aways to illegal aliens and politicians pet projects both programs would be solvent with surplus monies for years to come. Senior citizens should be concerned that the programs under Barack Obama could very well be diverted to pay for his PET PROJECT called REPARATION.

  • AnninCA

    Great article, Ani……thanks. It’s one to chew on.

    The one concern I have is the deregulated insurance industry. I’m trying to picture what type of oversight will be in place? In CA, we have BC running around insuring people and then denying claims. It’s a complete rip-off to people. CA has tackled them hard.

    We would absoloutely need some type of oversite agency. Otherwise, it could be a scam industry waiting to blossom.

  • lute

    I’m voting for McCain, but expect nothing but the same.
    Krugman wasn’t keen on McCain’s plan because it would eliminate the tax break for employer-provided insurance.
    “Krugman writes that those gaining insurance under McCain’s plan “would be those who need it least: relatively healthy Americans with high incomes” since insurance companies prefer to cover only healthy people and only those that are wealthy would be able to afford a policy on the individual market. “In short, the McCain plan makes no sense at all,” writes Krugman, “unless you have faith that the magic of the marketplace can solve all problems.” (Krugman, New York Times, 10/6/08)”

    • lute

      for me, McCain’s only strong suit is that he isn’t Obama.
      in 2012, HRC can run again if McCain is elected.

    • John Smith

      The way I see it is that if insurance companies know that every family has 5000 for insurance no matter what. There will be a plan that will cost 5000. They would be crazy not to provide one. It is money on the table all they have to do is pick it up.

    • stodgie

      good points but congress would make their own changes as well to president mccain’s health care plan. look most of us look at mccain as a care taker one termer.

  • BJ

    CEO’s – 4 to 1 – fear an obambi presidency would be bad for America in a recent poll.

    Over 70% prefer McCain

    • tek

      That seems crazy to me. Who is pushing Obama through the media they own? Corporations. So, why would they push someone they don’t really want?

      • stodgie

        i have read that the ny times and msnbc face losing viewers/readers and could be long gone in 4 to 10 years. an obama win gives them more time. it is simple as that and as tragic.

        • BJ

          you read that? where in the comics?

          it has nothing to do with that.. idiot obambi voters are too stupid to understand that obambi is bought and paid for by wallstreet-

          there are a few huge corps that own our media and ratings=cash=wallstreet wealth

          but…

          there are 1000′s of corps in this country, huge corps that have nothing to do with the media wealth… they are looking out for their own profits and consumerism which means the republican ticket is always better for them-

  • John Smith

    This is what they want us to vote for. A complete welfare state. Why would anybody want to do anything in a society like this.

    http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/10/28/kaptur-calls-out-herself-demanding-a-second-bill-of-rights-at-obama-rally/

  • Shiloh

    My first comment of the morning is simply to add this: VA, PA, OH and FL are NOT in play. They are all going to McCain!

    O is for over

    • tzada

      Gun sales are up in Florida, on fears of an Obama win.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71Do4Fj8XU

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg8B7fSlJeY

      Glad to know I will have plenty of company should Obama’s brown shirts jack boots come goose stepping into Florida.

      Here in North Florida I am sure of an Obama defeat.
      The Ocala area had 60,000 show up for a Palin rally.
      Lots of retired there. Cubans and the Jewish populations would be foolish to vote for Obama. It is not like they haven’t been warned. Warned in the words and actions of Biden and Obama both. Add in the PUMA factor and that the Democrats did not want our votes…..We have a popular Republican Governor as well.

      We shall see….but I think Florida will go red.

  • mountainaires

    I appreciate the great work, Ani. And, I’ve already early voted for McCain/Palin. But, I have a sincere question that no one has addressed yet in these arguments:

    As a member of a group, those insured get better coverage for less cost. As an individual, it costs more to get insurance coverage. So, whatever gains McCain’s plan offers, is offset–in my mind–by the huge increase in costs to buy insurance as an INDIVIDUAL. And, the insurance companies make out like bandits on that issue.

    How does McCain plan to keep corporate insurance from charging outrageous costs up front when they’re insuring INDIVIDUALS instead of spreading the costs among many individuals as part of a group. That has always been the benefit of employer-based coverage, after all.

    As I said, I voted McCain/Palin. But, I still am not convinced that McCain’s plan is best on the health care issue. [Fortunately, I am currently covered under a group/employer based plan, and under Tri-care for retired military.] I have family members who have no coverage at all.

    • wodiej

      I won’t pretend to know all of the details but based on Obama’s agenda so far, his plan will be more givaways w no accountability. There has to be some guideposts and incentive for people to take some responsibility for themselves. People smoke, don’t eat right, don’t exercise, don’t get annual check ups, do other stupid shit and the rest of us who try to act like we have sense are stuck w the bill.

    • ObamaISaFRAUD

      It is actually cheaper for my family to pay for separate health policies. My husband has insurance through his employer but still pays over $100 a month. The cost it would be to add me and my kids is outrageous. My plan costs me $188 but they are raising it 10% beginning next year. My son is $115 a month. I believe McCain’s plan would be good for my family.

      If states could compete with one another, this would indeed increase competition. As it stands now, I really do not have much of a choice but to go for BCBS of NC. It would be great if I could get a health savings plan which my husband’s employer just switched to. We already have $1000 saved with that plan for him. As it stands now, it is impossible for me to get such a plan.

      As far as taxes go, I feel that we have had it good these last few years. Using Obama’s tax calculator, I find it hard to believe that we would save $3K. Where would all that money come from to make up for those savings? I strongly believe that Obama is misleading the public.

    • Deep Truths

      The $5000 is tax deductible. Plus McCain says that instead of only being in one state you can go across state lines to get insurance. I can see how competition would drive down costs of insurance. Right now there are so many plans and bureacracy that drives up the costs of medical insurance.

      Plus the medical profession knows they have companies by the short hairs. They keep raising rates no matter what. The government doesn’t dictate medical rates but because of medicare and medicaid, they have however increased the burden on the government. If individuals even if elderly were somewhat healthy then pooling resources at $5000 would dramatically lower costs.

      I’m studying for medical billing/coding and the involvement in government in healthcare is omnipotent. Its sooo big that medical industry, insurance companies, and axillary companies have gamed the system (medicare/medicaid) since its inception.

      Average costs of individual insurance is $3800. Premium coverage is $8000. Cadillac coverage, those Fortune 500 companies is $14,000. Also, one out of five dollars spent in the US is for healthcare.

      Its high time to start somewhere. Preferrably with a reduction in goverment involvement.

      • Annie Oakley

        Yes, this gets overlooked. Healthcare is a huge government subsidy program. My hope is that one day we get around to looking at the sweetheart supply deals in healthcare. We could really save some money there.

    • Ani

      Below, Tyrione posted this link — I found this helpful, perhaps some of your questions will be answered there if you want to check it out.

      John finally did a nice job of breaking down his HealthCare Plan:

      http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm

  • hadenough

    Heard on npr this morning: obama will give a prime time address tonight

    Prime time address? If by prime time address they mean infomercial. This is the craziest election ever.

    • AnninCA

      That’s probably part of the package he bought….some advertising for the time slot.

      JUST a guess here….he’s going to try to look already elected and giving a “state of the union” type of deal. Get people “used” to the idea of seeing him do that.

      Today, 2 analysts on RCP say that the undecideds will most likely break for McCain due to this factor. Nobody really knows how Obama will truly govern. McCain has been effective showing his left roots for all. Then we saw the flip-flops. Then the move to the center.

      So a lot of people are wondering just what he’ll be like when elected.

      My guess is that this slot is geared to reassuring centrists that he’s not going to flip to being a lefty.

      • hadenough

        I’m betting nobody watches. Sure oborg will be clued to their sets but Americans no so much.

        • tzada

          I will make sure my TV is Off during that time slot. No chance at all that my TV will count for Precious.

      • Shiloh

        That makes sense but it is exactly the undecideds who won’t be watching. I think the audience that tunes in to a 30 minute political ad will be those who are sold on Obama and just want to swoon over him some more.

        But brace yourself for a major msm orgy Thurs am over how great he was. This is why Thurs am is the best time for something major to drop and steal the day’s news cycle.

        • notrees

          FRINGE comes on the FOX channel. Hopefully they will bypass the mouth from Kenya.

          • JozefAL

            Um, sorry to disappoint you but Fox is carrying Obama’s message then following it with the World Series. (Don’t you remember the big to-do last week about MLB granting Fox permission to delay the game for The One’s 30 minutes of grandiose masturbation?)

            Incidentally, folks, under the old Fairness Doctrine (that so many conservatives are railing against being revived), McCain would, BY LAW, get FREE airtime to rebut Obama’s little speech. I don’t ever recall any politician having the audacity to buy airtime before the Fairness Doctrine was done away with because they knew that their opponent would get an equal amount of free airtime to respond. (IMS, most politicians of the Big Two parties weren’t overly concerned about minor party candidates buying airtime simply for the fact that airtime, even then, was very costly. I seem to recall some of Lyndon LaRouche’s propaganda airing on local stations within a week or so of the elections, but what major party campaign would bother responding to such tripe? All it would’ve done was essentially give LaRouche more recognition than he deserved.)

      • tek

        That’s one of the things I can’t stand about him most. He pretends like he already is the President, and of course no other President in history can compare to the great ONE. Disgusting.

    • tek

      Well, he has to keep giving GREAT SPEECHES because that’s all he’s got. You would thing Americans would see through this crook by now.

      • stodgie

        in my view obama doesn’t give great speeches. churchill gave great speeches. fdr did also. jfk, teddie roosevelt, lincoln. obama, heck no!

        • angry but hopeful

          words, just words

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    Boston Globe: Obama “Worried” About Pennsylvania

    Uh-oh.

    http://patriotroom.com/?p=3479

    • Boxer Mum 06

      I’m quite confident the Phillies fans will be very excited to wait yet another delay to the start of the game and give Barry his million dollar informercial. That will definitelty earn him more votes in PA … N O T !!!!!!

      I totally agree with Shiloh – O is for O V E R!!!

      PA is going Red folks .. and not just from the Phillies win tonight :)

      Sorry to the Rays fans – I’d be happy for them too but it’s been so damn long since a win in Philly that we have to root for the home team!

  • Steve1

    Screw the MSM. We better deal with those F**kers after this election cycle-whatever the outcome! They need to be reformed and held accountable for their biased even criminal behavior. Corporate controlled media is managed news!

    • Diana

      I totally agree, something needs to be done about the irresponsibility of the MSM this year. The MSM’s TOTAL responsibility for the promotion of hate attacks both mental and physical against women this year.

      100%Smears against Republicans. Zero coverage on the Independents. Zero coverage on actual issues. Zero vetting of Obama.

      The only news station I have seen go after both sides, as well as praise both sides has been FOX and only FOX. I had to block MSNBC for their blatant attacks on women from both parties. Keith Olberman called for the murder of Hillary and never apologized for his comments. The Secret Service never investigated. They’ve attacked the daughters of these candidates. An INFANT!

  • Dad

    Sign this petition! We need the LA Times to hand over that tape NOW! http://www.thepetition.com/1/americ…-the truth

    • Lizzie Struthers

      Dad is a spammer. The above parent link is a spam link. Please remove.

    • Lizzie Struthers

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      Please remove.

    • Shiloh

      ^^^^^ IGNORE – NOT A REAL LINK

      • tzada

        Not used it yet but I will. This is supposed to be the email of the “reporter” holding the video.

        peter.wallsten@latimes.com

        • AnninCA

          I still don’t get why there is only 1 tape.

          That makes no sense.

  • IronMan

    Polls are tightening!

    Obama’s lead down to 3 points in new Rasmussen Poll!

    And Gallup had a 2 point lead for Obama yesterday.

    Breaking…

    Indiana Secretary of State just announced that ACORN should be investigated and prosecuted under federal racketeering laws due to finding several criminal viloations from ACORN in Indiana, especially in Lake County – the county close to Chicago. He’s contacted state and the Justice Dept and is requesting charges be filed against ACORN!

    Lake County was the County where the Pro-Obama Mayor was holding up the voting results for hours after the polls closed.

    • Steve1

      During the Dem primary. He was either trying to add more votes for Barry Soetoro or delay Clinton’s victory annouce!ment

    • wodiej

      good, I live in Indiana, kick some Acorn ass.

    • AnninCA

      Do those Reiko suits have to filed state by state? I suppose they do, since each state runs its own voting procedures.

      *woohoo*…..on Rasmussen.

      Dang, McCain will FINALLY get some respect for closing well. I’m pleased for his campaign. I personally thought he’s run a very smart campaign, steering clear of race but still effectively hitting Obama on some character questions for voters to chew on.

      Palin and he really are a good team. I can picture them in reform gear on the Hill.

    • tek

      Woo hoo! Hope this is publicized before Nov. 4. I just hope there are a significant number of people who have not voted early.

  • notrees

    The next phone call you get urging you to vote for Obama may be coming from Gaza
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5232FE95-7663-4D1E-8E1A-51F6E348DF8E

    • Steve1

      notrees That is nothing new! Barry Soetoro has been doing that since Dem primaries! There were bloggers from Gaza strip calling for Soetoro against Clinton. Nothing new there, plus they are giving financial contributions to his campaign. The Jewish community better open their eyes. Israel better keep a close eye on this phony messiah.

  • Lizzie Struthers

    Barack wrote a letter…

    Has this been posted before?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122523804578478175.html

    Funny stuff!

  • Shiloh

    Let’s get this in perspective folks:

    1. For months, it has been the McCain strategy to stay 5-8 points behind in the “polls” and take him in the final turn like a racehorse. This is happening.

    2. Obama has been an image and concept candidate. That plays well in the early days but later on voters grim up and vote on character. Flirt with Obama but marry McCain.

    3. The stuff all of you were clamoring to come out long ago is now coming out – bit by bit. Joe the Plumber was the leading edge. That will continue. The Obama glitter is worn off.

    4. Many Obama votes were soft. All of us are hearing stories of votes changing from Obama to McCain. The early vote advantage for Obama is not materializing. Neither is the big “fraud” advantage.

    5. We have a huge undecided vote for this late, at least 7%, in some polls over 10%. That vote is likely to break heavily for McCain.

    So do a little poll arithmetic. Start with, say, an 8 point Obama lead and subtract as follows:

    8
    -2 for skewed sampling
    -2 for Bradley/Obama effects
    -2 for PUMA effect
    -4+ for undecideds breaking McCain

    I’m telling you – in the reality poll which we aren’t seeing, McCain is leading right now today and that lead will only increase.

    • Jackarooty

      If McCain wins, I just want to see Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews’ heads explode.

      Yeah.

    • notrees

      Wonder if the Diebold voting machines are still in play? ;)

      • tzada

        Yes, and Obama had as one of his SD a man that had been closely involved with them. Obama made the statement about Ohio, “well at least we have control of the electronic voting machines.” (Don’t have the link handy but Google it is you like.)

        Judge rules Ohio homeless voters may list park benches as addresses

        http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/28/ajudgerule.html?sid=101

        COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) – A federal judge in Ohio has ruled that counties must allow homeless voters to list park benches and other locations that aren’t buildings as their addresses.
        U.S. District Judge Edmund Sargus also ruled that provisional ballots can’t be invalidated because of poll worker errors.
        Monday’s ruling resolved the final two pieces of a settlement between the Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless and Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner.
        The coalition agreed to drop a constitutional challenge to Ohio’s voter identification law until after the Nov. 4 election. In return, Brunner and the coalition agreed on procedures to verify provisional ballots across all Ohio counties.
        The coalition was concerned that unequal treatment of provisional ballots would disenfranchise some voters.

        • AnninCA

          I do not have a problem with that ruling.

          The homeless are entitled to vote. Not that many of them actually will.

          • stodgie

            excuse me ann! i am in favor of citizens having voting rights. that includes paroled felons with some restrictions. i am not in favor of lowering our standards and leaving us even more vulnerable to fraud which is exactly what obama would do. that is just bullxxxx!

            • Rob G in Chicago

              Maybe we should consider having voters dip their thumbs in a special hopey changey purple ink to signify that they have already voted, but our election system security/integrity measures can’t even meet the standards of a war torn third country.

      • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

        I kindda like it now when Karl Rove is quiet.

  • Dad

    I’m sorry I was not trying to spam. I’m new at this and I just want the LA times to hand over the tape. Again, I’m sorry if I caused your sight any problems.

    • tzada

      Welcome to this forum Dad….. I am sure the spam link was not intended. Most of us are so upset with the MSM and the DNC shoving Barack Obama down our collective throats that we sometimes jig when we should have jagged. ;) Anyhow welcome we need all the help we can get.

  • Dad

    I’m sorry for that. I am new at this and I did not know that was spam. I just want the LA times to hand over that tape. Again, I am sorry if I caused your site any problems. Thanks.

  • Dad

    I found the link at PUMA so I thought it was cool. My bad.

    • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

      Dad: I signed the petition on the Puma site too. The petition site is one that sends out requests for petition signing on relevant issues quite often. If I’m not interested, I hit delete. But I thought this was a worthwhile effort. They are trying for 10,000 signatures to the LA Times.

  • wodiej

    OT…I am hearing the Republican running against Murtha “my constiuients are racist and rednecks” in Pennsylvania, is getting some support-polls are very tight. That’s good considering how long Murtha has been winning.

    Let’s see….Pennsylvanians have been called, bitter, clinging to their guns and religion, racist and rednecks. Think they’ve had enough yet??

    • angry but hopeful

      u forgot crackers lol

  • wodiej

    the polls that are showing a tight race between Obama and McCain in Indiana are complete and utter BULLSHIT. Poll released this morning shows McCain WAY ahead. As I said, Indiana is going to be Red this year like every year since 1964.

  • snosandy

    Awesome, Sarah Palin just got a free half hour on the cable stations with her energy policy speech. She was awesome.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Ani, great piece! Thank you so much for this. I hope this gets out far and wide since health care, and taxes, are constantly being misrepresented by the MSM and Obamabots. Well done!

  • Tyrione

    John finally did a nice job of breaking down his HealthCare Plan:

    http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm

  • Monet

    Health care started as a major concern of Americans at the beginning of this election. It’s been bumped down a bit in the past few months, but it still makes the list. The last week of the election, we’re just now starting to see recommendations that favor Senator McCain’s plan?

    There’s so much misinformation about Senator McCain’s plan out there, much coming from the Obama camp. A friend of mine has cancer, her bills have come to over $100k in the past year. She has Blue Cross but still has had to pay $20k for what her insurance didn’t cover. She was led to believe by the media and Obama camp information that if McCain is elected and she chooses to marry her s/o to utilize his health care benefits through his employer, her s/o will have the costs of her health care added to his taxable income. Not the cost of the policy that his employer provides him with but the cost of her medical care to the insurance company.

    The truth is, if his employer is paying $10k for a health insurance policy for him, his income will be increased by $10k, not by the cost of the medical care he obtains through the policy. As an individual under the McCain plan, he can use the $2,500 tax credit ($5k as a family) to offset the increased taxes.

    If you don’t have insurance provided by an employer, the tax credits can be used to purchase health insurance. It will be basic health insurance, but if one suddenly finds oneself in the hospital needing triple bypass surgery, the costs are going to be covered. The McCain plan also provides for people who are uninsurable because of illness.

    The Obama plan lets people buy policies through the Congressional health insurance plans. If someone doesn’t have $3k to buy insurance on the open market now, just where are they going to find $3k to buy a policy through Congress’s plans? Are the Congressional plans going to be reduced to $500 per year or something?

    It amazes me that it’s taken the WSJ until the last week to announce the McCain plan has merits. The media has ignored comparison of the campaign plans, hiding print articles in the back of newspapers and cable news ignoring it all together or airing Obama supporters who deliberately mislead viewers about the McCain plan without correcting them.

    The McCain plan is far from perfect. It won’t encourage everyone who is uninsured to purchase health insurance. But it will give the uninsured who consider health insurance to be a necessity the funds to purchase basic policies. Which is far more than the Obama plan does.

    Americans should all have access to health care coverage. Unfortunately, we’re far from providing that right in this nation. But at least the McCain plan gives people who currently can’t afford basic health insurance the ability to do so. Regardless of whether their income was $200k or $2.00, if they file a tax return – they will be entitled to the health care tax credit.

  • Doc99

    Neither plan touches on how to make Healthcare more affordable in the first place nor tackles the dearth of primary care physicians. As MA found out, what good is increasing the number of insured if they don’t have a doctor to see them? That being said, it’s about time this country is finally having this conversation. On balance, McCain’s plan is more favorable to the consumer.