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	<title>Comments on: Red State Update &#8211; Ayers  [Open Thread]</title>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-973326</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your post does show up just be patient, the site is going through a server transfusion.</description>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-973319</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT ARE YOU 12?</description>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-973312</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;...the clintons did a mtg scandal with whitewater and got away with it,&quot;&lt;/b&gt;


WOW, YOU SOUND SO WELL INFORMED!


GO AWAY REPUBLICAN, STOP BLAMING A SUCCESSFUL WELL LIKED PRESIDENT CLINTON FOR THE FAILURES AND WOES OF THE 8 YEARS OF THE MORON BUSH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;&#8230;the clintons did a mtg scandal with whitewater and got away with it,&#8221;</b></p>
<p>WOW, YOU SOUND SO WELL INFORMED!</p>
<p>GO AWAY REPUBLICAN, STOP BLAMING A SUCCESSFUL WELL LIKED PRESIDENT CLINTON FOR THE FAILURES AND WOES OF THE 8 YEARS OF THE MORON BUSH.</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-972315</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been a one week delay between state polls and national polls all year.  Nect week will show the states tightening, but it is too late.  Just know right now McCain is likely ahead more than you can imagine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been a one week delay between state polls and national polls all year.  Nect week will show the states tightening, but it is too late.  Just know right now McCain is likely ahead more than you can imagine!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz B</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-972244</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great link.  There is a conclusion that will be posted today(?).  Someone has done some great research, but with the Obama Plumbers having done their jobs efficiently, we may never know if Ayers and Obama were connected in New York.  my gut check tells me they were, but, Obama knew from the start this was a relationship he could never go public with as a potential POTUS, so like everything else that he has embraced, he discarded, or at least appears to have erased any links to fourteen years of their relationship (from 1981 to 1995) It would seem that he knew it was impossible, although he tried, to disavow any relationship even when it became known they worked together, as did their wives.  
If he has worked this hard to hide this relationship, then this is the relationship that bears the closest scrutiny.  He did things in his past, that he wants very much for us to never find out about, and Ayers authoring Dreams From my Father doesn&#039;t seem out of the realm either.  
Interestingly enough, although the phone books bear out that he lived at one address for four years, there was no investigation that I have seen about where Bill Ayers lived in New York.  i would be interested to know if he perhaps, shared residence with Obama, or was a neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great link.  There is a conclusion that will be posted today(?).  Someone has done some great research, but with the Obama Plumbers having done their jobs efficiently, we may never know if Ayers and Obama were connected in New York.  my gut check tells me they were, but, Obama knew from the start this was a relationship he could never go public with as a potential POTUS, so like everything else that he has embraced, he discarded, or at least appears to have erased any links to fourteen years of their relationship (from 1981 to 1995) It would seem that he knew it was impossible, although he tried, to disavow any relationship even when it became known they worked together, as did their wives.<br />
If he has worked this hard to hide this relationship, then this is the relationship that bears the closest scrutiny.  He did things in his past, that he wants very much for us to never find out about, and Ayers authoring Dreams From my Father doesn&#8217;t seem out of the realm either.<br />
Interestingly enough, although the phone books bear out that he lived at one address for four years, there was no investigation that I have seen about where Bill Ayers lived in New York.  i would be interested to know if he perhaps, shared residence with Obama, or was a neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz B</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-972056</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are grown.

I&#039;d like to see them prosecuted, but since that is unlikely, maybe they might be the victims of some other radical group&#039;s terrorist plot someday.  I am a firm believer in Karma, and I thin k you reap what you sew.  I can not believe people like this will be invited guests in the WH come January, but you know that they will, and will the Press report it?  No.  Maybe they can attend a Dance on the Flag party with all the other Chicago bastards that are going to invade Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are grown.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see them prosecuted, but since that is unlikely, maybe they might be the victims of some other radical group&#8217;s terrorist plot someday.  I am a firm believer in Karma, and I thin k you reap what you sew.  I can not believe people like this will be invited guests in the WH come January, but you know that they will, and will the Press report it?  No.  Maybe they can attend a Dance on the Flag party with all the other Chicago bastards that are going to invade Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it isn&#039;t a case of americans not caring about ayers. the media aren&#039;t reporting it and are keeping it out of print and off the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it isn&#8217;t a case of americans not caring about ayers. the media aren&#8217;t reporting it and are keeping it out of print and off the air.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you taken a good long look at ayer&#039;s life since then? i didn&#039;t think so. and just would you think if this one was of mccain&#039;s good buddies? the media would go wild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you taken a good long look at ayer&#8217;s life since then? i didn&#8217;t think so. and just would you think if this one was of mccain&#8217;s good buddies? the media would go wild.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971998</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just ask since this is an open thread. Am I the only one who&#039;s posts don&#039;t post and just disappear? I&#039;ve delete cache, cookies, etc...one post will post. 5 more will disappear. Or am I no longer welcome to post here? If I&#039;m on moderated or banned I wish someone would just tell me. I&#039;m about ready to give up even attempting to post. If this even posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just ask since this is an open thread. Am I the only one who&#8217;s posts don&#8217;t post and just disappear? I&#8217;ve delete cache, cookies, etc&#8230;one post will post. 5 more will disappear. Or am I no longer welcome to post here? If I&#8217;m on moderated or banned I wish someone would just tell me. I&#8217;m about ready to give up even attempting to post. If this even posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971974</link>
		<dc:creator>Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>State polls are always way behind. Best thing to do is &lt;strong&gt;keep fighting&lt;/strong&gt; for the poll result you want and not let the current polls dictate your current behavior. :idea:

Look at it this way: two armies are at war. Both armies generals tell their troops &quot;stay focused, we will win!&quot; In the end one army loses. But for that to happen both sets of troops have to believe they can win. Are troops issued poll results?

I let Rove and the pundits worry about polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State polls are always way behind. Best thing to do is <strong>keep fighting</strong> for the poll result you want and not let the current polls dictate your current behavior. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Look at it this way: two armies are at war. Both armies generals tell their troops &#8220;stay focused, we will win!&#8221; In the end one army loses. But for that to happen both sets of troops have to believe they can win. Are troops issued poll results?</p>
<p>I let Rove and the pundits worry about polls.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971947</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply don&#039;t agree with your perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply don&#8217;t agree with your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971945</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I simply don&#039;t agree with your perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I simply don&#8217;t agree with your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971936</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experts Affirm: Ayers Wrote Obama’s Memoir!!!!!

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=79403</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experts Affirm: Ayers Wrote Obama’s Memoir!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=79403" rel="nofollow">http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=79403</a></p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5744/red-state-update-ayers-open-thread/#comment-971918</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the state polls were the ones to watch, but there are so many of them this year and no way to possibly guage the validity of the polling, that the best approach I&#039;ve found is to follow the major polls on the national level.

I was wondering when Rasmussen would finally reflect the obvious trends going on.

McCain is closing the deal (I hope).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the state polls were the ones to watch, but there are so many of them this year and no way to possibly guage the validity of the polling, that the best approach I&#8217;ve found is to follow the major polls on the national level.</p>
<p>I was wondering when Rasmussen would finally reflect the obvious trends going on.</p>
<p>McCain is closing the deal (I hope).</p>
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		<title>By: katmandu</title>
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		<dc:creator>katmandu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Rasmussen has race tightening nationally -- but nothing is showing in the state polls.  The Obama lead is down to three.</description>
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<p>Rasmussen has race tightening nationally &#8212; but nothing is showing in the state polls.  The Obama lead is down to three.</p>
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