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Helping Joe the Plumber with Shep Smith

Our friend, the plain spoken Joe Wurzelbacher aka Joe the Plumber, made news today by agreeing with a questioner that the election of Barack Obama poses a great risk for Israel. Shep Smith launched a verbal barrage on Joe. Check it out:

Joe is not a foreign policy expert nor is he a policy wonk. He’s your average guy who smells a rat but lacks the full body of evidence to present the case. Well, let me help him out.

The problem is that Barack has not fully explained his past activities. If you are a citizen of Israel you have cause to be worried about Barack’s true views about Israel. He got his start in politics with an assist from Louis Farrakhan. Minister Farrakhan is not known as a fan of Israel. In fact, he’s on the record espousing anti-semitic views. Is it credible to believe that he backed Barack Obama, knowing that Obama allegedly has a deep, abiding love for Israel? I don’t think so.

Then we look at Obama’s activities on the Woods Fund. With his fellow board member–unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers–Barack steered money to an organization created and directed by a former PLO spokesman, Rashid Khalidi. Khalidi’s wife actually ran the day-to-day ops of the Arab American Action Network (AAAN). Which explains in part why Barack was at the farewell dinner for Rashid, who was leaving Chicago for greener pastures in New York City.

And then we have the fact that Obama was in full belly laugh during the reading of a poem at the Khalidi dinner describing Israel as a terrorist state.

We also should recall Israel is nervous about Barack’s promise to sit down without preconditions with the “tiny,” “non’-threatening” state of Iran (see Susan’s post here).

So that’s on the one hand. Then we have the Barack position when he ran for the House in 2000. At that time Barack adopted a much more pro-Israel position:

Barack Obama believes that moral and strategic imperatives require strong support and a close relationship between the United States and Israel. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and this country’s most critical and stable ally in that vital region. For these reasons the United States must continue to aid Israel in the military, economic and diplomatic spheres.

Moral and Strategic Imperatives
U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and throughout the world should be grounded in the democratic values central to this country’s success. As the strongest and most committed democracy in the Middle East, Israel stands out by sharing with us a strong commitment to democratic values; including freedom of the press, freedom of religious expression and regular, competitive elections. These commonly held values mandate the United States fulfill the commitment to strengthen fellow democracies.

In addition to the moral mandate, our close ties with Israel are essential to protecting and promoting U.S. interests in the region, including: the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction by certain rogue regimes; state-sponsored terrorism; the potential disruption of access to Middle East oil; and the spread of religious radicalism in the Middle East. Israelis have suffered from an increase in terrorist activities since the beginning of the peace process; progress achieved through negotiations makes the terrorists more determined to commit acts of violence to undermine the process.

For these reasons, Israel’s defense needs are dramatically increasing. To continue to counter these threats, Israel must retain a significant qualitative edge over her enemies to compensate for their quantitative advantage. Israel must upgrade its Air Force, build new missile defenses, and acquire adequate advance surveillance and early warning technology. This requires ongoing assistance from the United States.

To meet these goals, Senator Obama supports Israel’s recent proposal to
gradually increase military assistance while phasing out economic assistance over a ten-year period. The Senator would support greater economic assistance, if a reversal in Israel’s economic condition occurred.

The Senator also believes the Wye aid package is needed now and should not be tied to the larger debate over federal spending, tax cuts and Social Security.

The Peace Process
Throughout its history, Israel has been anxious to make peace with its Arab neighbors. If successful, the current peace process is a potential opportunity for Israel to increase its security, normalize relations with its neighbors, and create a more stable and prosperous Middle East.

Resolution of the conflict depends on direct negotiations between the parties based on mutual respect and recognition. The United States’ commitment to Israel must continue so Israel can negotiate with its former and current adversaries from a position of strength. Senator Obama believes that Israel can take risks for peace only because of unwavering American support.

The Status of Jerusalem
Like all sovereign nations, Israel has the right to determine the location of its nation’s capital. Jerusalem should remain united and should be recognized as Israel’s capital. Mr. Obama shares in the disappointment over President Clinton’s recent decision to use the waiver provision contained in the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 to delay the transfer of the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.

Barack needs to explain the dichotomy between his private associations and his public pronouncements. There is a wide gulf between the two. So forgive Joe the Plumber for not being able to quickly summarize Obama’s “position” vis-a-vis Israel. Obama has been on both sides of the issue.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    I’ve said this 100 times…Any Jew voting for Obama is the same person who thought that Hitler was leading them to a train home at Dachau. I am SO WTF about ANY Jew voting for Arab Obama who is an anti-Semite and has thrown that in our face 10,000 times.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Random Guy…You’re a liar and a troll. But it makes me REALLY happy that there are like 10 trolls on this site tonight. You paid garbage are living proof that the FABULOUS John McCain has it in the bag.

  • LuigiDaMan

    This is all BS. Israel has nothing to worry about. This is fearmongering at its worst. And I don’t even like BO.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Yes, and what is Barack Hussein Obama’s REAL name? Where was he born…why won’t he release his birth certificate, why can’t we see any of his academic records, his thesis, his state senate record…why have no friends of his from his earlier years come forward to say they knew him or to vouch for him, why does he have “associations” with more disreputable people than Carter’s got liver pills?

    Barack Hussein Obama is running for POTUS, not Joe the Plumber.

    The American people demand to know who B.H.Obama REALLY is.

  • NO o For Me

    Joe the Plumber has excellent instincts! Too bad he didn’t ask Mr. Smith why HE didn’t know about Bill Ayers, Rasheed Khalidi, Khalid al Mansour, prince Alwaleed bin Talal, Percy Sutton ad nauseum. Research, indeed!

    McCain/Palin

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Well, let’s see what’s on that tape the LA newspaper is hiding…you know, the one with Obama partying with folks who are not exactly Israel’s friends.

  • AF catfish

    random_guy his middle name is Joe, if he works in plumbing he’s a plumber, license or not.

    Shows the depth of Oboma’s desperation that he would insult a plumber.

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    Joe Wurzelbacher is a plumber. You don’t know dick about how plumbers work. You don’t need a license to do residential work. But fuckers like you disgust me. All Joe did was ask a question that outed Barack Obama. And lawless asses like you abused the power of government to attack this good man. Cretin!!

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Well at least you’re beginning to see the light.

  • pm317

    It is despicable that Shep Smith goes after Joe with such gusto. Where is his bravado in questioning and vetting Obama?

  • AF catfish

    After Obama and Biden laughed for days at Joe the Plumber that (hahaha) Plumbers (doubled over in condescending laughter) don’t make 250k! Looks like Joe the Plumber could clear 250k this year in guest appearances on fox, maybe even his own talk show. This is America baby! Plumbers CAN make 250K even without a Harvard Law degree!

  • Susan1968

    Obama did fund-raising for PLO sympathizers in Chicago:

    Abunimah previously described meeting with Obama at a fundraiser at the home of Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, reportedly a former PLO activist.

    According to quotes obtained by Gulf News, Abunimah recalled a 2004 meeting in a Chicago neighborhood while Obama was running for his Senate seat. Abunimah quoted Obama telling him “warmly” he was sorry that “I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race.”

    “I’m hoping when things calm down, I can be more up front,” Abunimah reportedly quoted the senator as saying.

    Abunimah said Obama urged him to “keep up the good work” at the Chicago Tribune, where Abunimah contributed guest columns that were highly critical of Israel. ….

  • ritamary

    How do you know Israel has nothing to worry about? Did Dear Leader tell you that? How do you reconcile that with Dear Leader hanging out with Louis Farrakhan?

  • Hap Hazard

    Thank you Larry. This is why we love NoQ

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Dang that Joe the Plumber is kicking Der Precious’ scrawny ass! :mrgreen:

    Thanks Mr. Larry for posting this!

  • fif

    LOL! His middle name is Joe–but nice try loyally repeating your Axelrod talking points. Point two: he does not NEED a plumber’s license in OH since his company has one. That is very common for blue collar worker’s, and your judgment about this is just another elitist attack. He never said he makes $250K/year. He said he would like to buy his own business some day, and many successful small businesses DO make that threshold. Besides, Obama is now saying $200K/year, and Biden today said $150K/year. Pretty soon it will be that everyone is getting taxed. Do the math. A huge deficit and a trillion dollars in new spending WITH tax cuts? It’s not physically possible.

    “Enough with Joe the Plumber” already. It seems to be really bothering the Obama campaign and his supporters. Hmmm…I wonder why. Maybe because he speaks the plain truth and it is resonating with people. People do not need convoluted, empty talk. They need real solutions, and Joe saw right through Obama’s double talk. Joe is not going away, and neither are we.

  • kbdabear

    That’s Shep Obama for you – Truth to Powerless

    I wish he’d just go work for CNN like he’s always wanted to do.

  • sowsear

    And BO has a plan to take it from Joe as soon as he gets it

  • ms mississippi

    Even the Israeli government put out a statement last week saying they were concerned about an Obama presidency. The statement aired maybe once on Fox and on CNN and that was it. Joe knows what he’s talking about. Shep showed his stripes.

  • pewlf

    If you watched Hannity tonite,Newt Grenwich told Sean,$50,000,and bets the tape lands on Seans Desk….Now why do I feel this Whitey tape,could very well be in the hands of Fox.lol

    Just guessing,but my guess is Sean is holding something.imo Maybe he has them all….

  • Zanne

    Just did my mail in vote. Sent it overnight express. Thanks Joe. You spoke for me and others. Looks like I will always love the month of October now. McCain/Palin 08

  • fif

    What just happened? I replied to Random Guy, who was the first post, and they both disappeared?

    Anyway, how much is the Obama Campaign paying Shep Smith? He seemed very invested in defending Obama, and where in the world would Joe get the idea that Obama was not a friend to Israel, because he has SAID he is! Just ignore the endorsement from Hamas, and his relationships with Wright & Pfleger (Farrakhan’s buddies) & Khalidi et.al.

    Joe shouldn’t have bothered going on the show–he is not a foreign policy spokesperson, and should stick to his concerns about the economy. He did a good job of redirecting it to each person’s judgment and responsibility to do their own research. Why doesn’t Shep ask someone like Larry who would be happy to answer that question in depth.

  • Hap Hazard

    Joe is not a foreign policy expert nor is he a policy wonk. He’s your average guy who smells a rat but lacks the full body of evidence to present the case. — If one stops to think about this, it takes one’s breath away when the realization sinks in that these reporter-types have such deep and abiding contempt for the average working man or woman in this country. I am sure they also believe that these people really shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and would agree with Obama that the Constitution is an archaic and faulty document.

  • sowsear

    Savage Politics has a couple of articles on redistribution of wealth. Goody, goody!
    http://savagepolitics.com/

  • Ted Kennedy’s Swim Coach

    Good Points!

    Rudy Guiliani made a great point about Obama.

    He lied about taking Campaign Funds.

    He lied about filibustering FISA.

    Why wouldn’t he lie about taxes? He has lied before, and his past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. He RAISED our taxes every time when he could have voted against it.
    So now we are are supposed to beleive he will give us a tax cut?
    Nope, just another lie to try to get votes.

    We won’t be fooled.

    McCain/Palin 2008

  • decentAmerican

    LA times refusing to release the tape, saying that the newspaper article fully discloses what is on the tape. But the article doesn’t have the impact of showing Obama laughing at Israel. that would seal the deal. And la times would be embarassed of their endorsement. Meanwhile, their circlation drops, their staff is being laid off, and NOONE TRUSTS them anymore. The end of journalism as we know it.

    I beg again…we are running out of time, the Khalidi tape, the Whitey tape, the birth certificate…..anything….ANYTHING……we must use anything in this time of crisis, we can not let the enemy Obama win. This is all for America folks, the safety and future of my family and yours….if someone was threatening your family, wouldn’t you do anything to protect them? This is no time to be polite or politically correct….please GOP, don’t lose this one, this is all about our future!

  • Hap Hazard

    i lost a comment as well for random guy, but I think it might have been that our site administrators were doing a little necessary non-elective troll-ectomies.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    He has been banned most likely. Bye bye troll! :mrgreen:

  • AF catfish

    Sarkozy is onto Obama. Huge blockbuster story in today’s Haaretz (see one story down.)

    Until now, the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany have tried to maintain a united front on Iran. But according to the senior Israeli source, Sarkozy fears that Obama might “arrogantly” ignore the other members of this front and open a direct dialogue with Iran without preconditions.

    Following their July meeting, Sarkozy repeatedly expressed disappointment with Obama’s positions on Iran, concluding that they were “not crystallized, and therefore many issues remain open,” the Israeli source said. Advisors to the French president who held separate meetings with Obama’s advisors came away with similar impressions and expressed similar disappointment.

    Biden said we’ll have to stand by Obama because it won’t be apparent at first, that he’s doing the right thing. Is this what he meant?

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Joe has to make a living somehow…since he supposedly lost his job for answering a question posed by Barry.

  • ObamaISaFRAUD

    Now is the time to try to put doubt in the voters minds.

    Bring up everything but show how it all adds up. Because it is obvious that the people who don’t see it yet need that extra help.

  • WasLNbutNoBamaBotsKeepStealingMyName

    Frightening indeed.

  • Hap Hazard

    Read somewhere earlier tonight, perhaps hillbuzz, farily well-founded speculation that the tape also reveals the dinner guests of the Obamas to be none other than that guy who lives in his neighborhood, along with his wonderful wife.

  • Zanne

    I think he has something too. But timing is everything. Keep hammering. The internet is our friend.

  • KarenG

    Go vote in the PBS poll……
    PBS has an online poll posted, asking if Sarah Palin is qualified.

    Apparently the Obamacrats knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with NO votes.

    The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voter in swing states.

    Please do this — takes 20 seconds.

    Click on link and vote YES for Sarah

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

  • Cubs in 09

    I linked to this tape over the weekend (forgot who posted it). Is it legit? I sent it to lots o’ TV and radio hosts.

    Obama Under Foreign Influence?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeBK80YuOUA

  • Buzz Latte

    I saw Shepard Smith try to roll over the top of Joe. I wanted to go through the TV and shut him up.

    Joe stood his ground and I would have loved it if he had turned the tables and said the reason people didn’t know Obama’s policy is because Obama himself is flip flopping and furthermore, why hasn’t the media educated the public on just what exactly IS Obama’s intent.

    I stand with Joe the Plumber…

  • csuzeq

    My boyfriend is a Jew for Obama. Yes, I am shocked. For him it is all about the damn D.

  • Zanne

    E-mail all your people everything you have. They might be Zero lovers. But, the more you make them see the more they have to justify. I wonder if I will have any friends left after this election? McCain/Palin

  • gigi

    Yes, timing, like say, when there is a 30 min infomercial that needs to be quickly forgotten?!

  • andySF

    You’ve always argue Obama’s case in the past. Is that why you don’t even like Obama?

  • Cubs in 09

    I voted!

    Yes 50%
    No 48%

  • mimi

    I thought he and Sarkozy swapped spit. I obviously missed something. Of course, I’ve stopped listening to the msm and reading print media.

    Good to hear.

  • Trakar S.

    A bit OT, but I wanted to congratulate NQ on the server transfer. I was a bit concerned when I couldn’t access the board all day yesterday, and then greatly relieved when I got back in last night. The main thing I’ve noticed so far is that every thing loads so much faster and more smoothly, always loved the site, but page loads were almost torturous (by more in an anticipatory, non-rendition kinda way), again cudos, now back to the grindstone, this is the week of heavy lifting!

    Trakar

  • Cubs in 09

    There’s a fellow 2 doors up whose mom was from Israel. He put up a McCain/Palin sign yesterday!

  • sharon

    Yes, this is America…when a dolt like Joe the Plummer asks a simple question of a pres candidate, who answers with a general line suggesting that the rich should not get all the breaks (lets spread the wealth-a common phrase that is NOT Socialist) and then gets his 15 minutes of fame at the expense of the candidate who is actually telling the truth.
    And now its smear the candidate! You obama haters have no boundaries. Joe the plumber was NOT attacked by Obama. The fact is the guy doesn’t have a license (in most states that means he is NOT authorized to do work as a plumber in the plumbing business), owes back taxes and doesn’t even have the means to purchse the business he is using as the reason for attacking Obama. THAT’s dishonesty!

    Obama has always demonstrated that he will be a friend to Israel – so your smears in this area will fall on deaf ears. we do not care….get it???

    If Sean Hannity has the goods on Obama, what in the world is he waiting for??? it will be waaaaaay to late to disclose anything and have it get traction.

    By the way Larry, where are the whitey tapes???

  • Stray

    I don’t think that statement is true that (Israel has nothing to worry about). Israel Insider has a scary article that reads otherwise.

    This could be the test of metal biden was talking about.

    I don’t trust obambi bin biden at all.

    http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2018399%3ABlogPost%3A11698

    McCain/Palin 08

  • mel

    Obama words are “Just Words” or have people forgotten FISA and Obama’s betrail to the American people with his lies of grandstanding and actions of truth!

  • destardi

    I voted YES

  • ziggy

    Apparently the effort has succeeded with some voters. The Shepard Smith interview with Joe the Plumber reveals the result: a voter who believes something, but who is totally incapable of stating any rational basis for that belief.

  • Danny

    I pulled up behind a truck today that had a bumper sticker in the window that read “Jewish voter for McCain” and the driver also had an NRA sticker in his windo. It put a smile on my face having been a Democrat my whole life and thought all Jewish people voted for Democrats. Simply not true – I guess I lived in a bubble.

    This is also good news for Noquarter readers – Click

    http://www.redstate.com/diaries/dan_perrin/2008/oct/28/the-seven-reasons-mccain-palin-are-a-lock-to/

  • AF catfish

    That was at first and for the cameras. But this just leaked out today.

    After Biden’s gaffe I had the eerie feeling Biden had been trying to talk sense into Obama behind closed doors, and Obama wasn’t listening. So Obama “gaffed” in public to get his point across.

  • destardi

    Maybe because outlets like CNN and MSNBC are biased.

    Remember that HIllary is a horrible person mantra for “lying about being shot at” that her fellow Dems demonized and smeared her for?

    *Ahem, flash forward to Biden doing the same thing.

    *crickets

    Fuck you ziggy…

    I know all about Khalidi, Wright, and the episode with Pfleger and the muslim member that Jewish board members resigned over…

  • andySF

    When is it OK to attack a private citizen in this country when they ask a candidate in from of their home? Do you call this democracy? So if I ask a politician who want my vote a question, I can be drag through the mud by the media and Obot? It seem very familiar to me. Ooh, that’s right, the cultural revolution in China!!!! How dear anyone question the leader. So what if someone want 15 minutes of fame? It’s OK for Paris Hilton, but not OK for Joe the plumber? You people should all move to Cuba and see how you like it. Maybe you would stop taking freedom and rights in this country!!!!

  • Idiocracy08

    You probably won’t. People don’t like to later admit that they were wrong and you were right.

  • Zanne

    What infomercial? Not a good candidate for subliminal messages.

  • Susan1968

    Me too. 50% say yes.

  • Susan1968

    Me too. 50% say yes.

  • EightBelles

    I saw a great McCain-Palin TV ad earlier this evening. In the ad were regular men and women from different walks of life saying “I am Joe the Plumber.” Very effective imo. During “House,” both Obama and McCain ads were aired.

    I admire Joe the Plumber for standing by his principles in spite of being merciless grilled by the likes of Shep Smith. The reason “regular folks” like Joe can still smell a rat is they haven’t all been brainwashed by the elite MSM.

  • Wiley

    OT but GOOD NEWS!

    Gallup poll of likely voters (traditional) now has ‘That One’ only up by two – 49-47 !!

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111124/Gallup-Daily-Likely-Voters-Traditional.aspx

  • andySF

    Freedom and rights in this country for granted!!!

  • Susan1968

    The meida hates Joe because he tells people to dtheir own reserach on candidates and make up their own minds, their own decisions.

    The media doesn’t like this — they want to make decisions for people.

  • EightBelles

    i meant to say “mercilessly”

  • Wiley

    OT but GOOD NEWS!

    Gallup poll of likely voters (traditional) now has ‘That One’ only up by two – 49-47 !!

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111124/Gallup-Daily-Likely-Voters-Traditional.aspx

  • American Woman

    Tomorrow night would be a good nite to release them…during his infomercial..

  • Ginger

    BHO called Israel “an oozing sore on our foreign policy”….does that sound supportive to anyone?

  • AnninCA

    Heck, Joe probably heard about that strange flip-flop back in the primary, where he said one thing to Israelis and then reversed his position the next day.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    I hope Sean Hannity is holding onto the API tapes until electionj eve when he can run them and it will be too late for BO to do damage control. That would be wicked fun! :D

  • Blue Intrigue

    The “fabulous John McCain” who gave a half million dollars to Khalidi? That John McCain?

  • Ani

    Well, why doesn’t Fox air this over and over — they can also play the comment on conservative talk radio which gets an audience of over $100 million.

  • Cat in NJ

    I believe that defines the average Obama supporter. You know the old question: name some of O’s accomplishments as a public servant. Still can’t come up with much, can you?

  • ziggy

    Joseph McCarthy thought he knew who the enemies of America were, too.

  • Blue Intrigue

    Do you have a link? No? Didn’t think so.

  • NewOrleans

    What crawled up Shep’s butt? Is he auditioning for a new job at MSNBC?

    Having him defend Oblahma so forcefully was laughable.

    I just wish Joe had had a better answer for Shlep. Like what Obama says and what he does (and who he hangs with) are two completely different things.

  • Jeff in the windy city

    The wuss Shep Smith should wear the red number of Palin’s wardrobe sitting next to Anderson Cooper on CNN. The pair of them belong together.

    Picking on a regular guy but Obama and Biden can say and do whatever they want.

    God bless America!

  • Richard Hannay

    John McCain was linked to a group in the 1980s that included ex-Nazi SS officers and people like Klaus Barbie, men who were actually responsible for the actual Holocaust (not some imagined potential Holocaust). Does this association make John McCain a “threat to Israel” or the Jewish people? Of course not. So why would Obama’s brief associations with a few black antisemites on his climb up the political ladder make us any more worried? Answer is obviously it shouldn’t.

    Both these guys, McCain and Obama, will support Israel to the max, though they will do it in different ways. If you think you “know” which strategy–active diplomacy or active confrontation–is going to diffuse Iran and other threats better, you’re like someone who thinks they “know” the stock market. You can’t know this. Both strategies could fail or succeed. We’ve been trying confrontation for quite a while and unfortunately Achmashithead is still in power. Maybe it’s time to try a little talking. I IN NO WAY favor this unconditional discussion thing, and I’m sure Obama will back away from that as president, with good stable advice from all the mainstream people he’s surrounding himself with now.

    Again, both McCain and Obama have had shady, rotten associates in the past. Politics is like sausage making–you don’t really want to know what goes into it. It’s fine to say McCain would be a much better president or Democrats will be bad for the country. But to say that either candidate will mean the “death of Israel” or even a significant weakening of US policy towards Israel’s enemies is just nonsense. That is not going to happen. Relax. US and Israel are moving forward together in either case.

    PS: Cross your fingers that Achmadinijad’s current “fatigue” means he won’t be in power much longer. We need to support the democratic underground in Iran to undermine that criminal regime that’s starving its own people, as well as threatening Israel!!

  • AnninCA

    Incredible, wasn’t it? What, Joe is suppose to speak on foreign policy to defend his opinion?

    These media people are looking more and more stupid to me daily.

  • http://logisticsmonster.com/ DiamondTiger

    DaMan,

    Israel has more to worry about than is being explained here. go back to whereever you came from.

  • Troy

    I saw straight through Shepard Smith long ago…He is in the tank for Barky.

  • Richard Hannay

    PS: If you think that a hot war with the Middle East’s only non-Arab power will benefit the US or Israel, you’re dreaming. It will only increase terrorism and the threat to Israel exponentially. It will also lose America all the good will of tens of millions of Iranians who right now hate their own govt and prefer the US. What Israel and the West needs is regime change in Tehran, not open war with Tehran.

  • Blue Intrigue

    I love how you guys think that telling the truth about Joe the Plumber are “attacks” and “smears” but swallow every single outrageous lie about Obama that comes down the pike and then repeat them with hate and venom. Oh, poor Joe the Plumber!

  • AnninCA

    Joe did great, even with the nasty interview techniques.

    He should give lessons to Biden. *haha

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion

    Brief associations? LMAO.

  • PJ

    Joe the Plumber was able to put a crack in the Obama Campaign that they couldn’t seal up. FINALLY!

    Now the rot from within is leaking out all over the place and people aren’t much liking the smell.

    Not much time to put that stink back in the bottle…

  • elise

    ziggy, at least some of Obama’s supporters must believe he has anti-Israel (anti-Semitic) beliefs or they would not have posted those comments on his site. And some members of the American Jewish community also, since they have been reluctant to support him. A few weeks ago at a rally in Fl, someone asked him about Khalidi. You should worry when the msn behaves as though voters are too stupid to know when they are being lied to and have no instinct when it comes to electing officials. The attitude they have that if you don’t live in Washington DC and have no access to inside information, therefore, they must choose for us, is insulting and dangerous. WARNING! The next time they may not chose to select your favorite or decide to sell us another bogus war.

  • KathyNeocon

    Clean up on Aisle 5!!

  • EWard

    Memo to Shep Smith -

    BO has two positions on every issue. You know that. On one hand, he supports Israel. The next moment, he is open to the idea of a divided Jerusalem.

    We elect a President because of his judgment, honesty and integrity. Why is it that Obama seems to be attracted to people that hate America and want a revolution from within? We are talking about Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, Farrakhan, and so on.

    Obama’s past associates, college records, political records, birth certificate, and so on are hidden from the public. Shep, instead of grilling Joe, why not interview some of the brain dead media that have been in the tank for Obama? Here we have someone that posed a simple question to BO and his life is being investigated. Shame on you. Fox needs to send you to the Betty Ford Treatment Center!

    Go Joe!!!

  • PKJayne

    Joe the Plummer isn’t running for office. He was merely a civilian who asked a question.

    Too bad Barry can’t handle things off the cuff.

  • MochaLatteBreve

    What would be really appropriate is for Fox News to release any “special tapes” they have during or immediately before or after Obama’s 30 minute infomercial (whichever they feel would be most effective).

  • AnninCA

    Dolt, huh? :)

    Which is the attitude that propelled the latest rise in the polls for McCain.

    Gallup….2 points. Keep posting around.

  • brendy

    Who in the heck does that Shephard Smith think HE is!!! I just emailed that jerk and asked why he didn’t INTERROGATE the possible PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES (Obama) just as thoroughly and VICIOUSLY as he did Joe the Plumber.

    Smith was one of my least favorite anchors on Fox News; I had tried listening to him in the past couple of weeks, but he is SO boring and so ‘self humbling’ that I just quit watching him at all, and NOW I view this video and NOW I can see that I had VERY GOOD judgement about this jerk!!!

    studiob@foxnews.com (the JERK – Shepard Smith)

  • SJ

    Even the pic of Obama at that dinner that is on the net, his table seats 6-8 all you are seeing is 4 people in the pic, maybe the other two sitting on that table with Obama was Ayres and his wife.

    Ayres and his wife was at that dinner Greta on FOX just said so, I just hope someone releases this dam thing am tired of all these tapes out there and everyone just sitting on them.

  • Judy

    brendy – I agree – Shephard Smith seems to be always on the edge. He was awful during the financial crisis – almost hysterical at times. Fox would do well to fire his sorry ass.

    Joe the plumber does have good instinct, and I hope many good things happen for him – you are well thought of by me, Joe!!!!

  • Blue Intrigue

    He merely asked a question… and then McCain used him 20+ times in the debate. Without vetting. I see a pattern here.

  • AnninCA

    Why is there only 1 tape?

    That doesn’t make sense.

  • AnninCA

    Joe explained that it has to do with trusting Obama’s words. A lot of us have watched him flip-flop and lie.

    We get Obama. So does Joe.

  • ck

    It’s funny, Even Shepard Smith states “Barack has SAID”…”. Come on now, talk is cheap especially with politicians.

    I feel the same way as Joe and the original guy that made the statement and here is why.

    BECAUSE I JUDGE A MAN BY HIS DEEDS NOT HIS WORDS.
    1. Barack would rather spend thousands of dollars to defend a lawsuit regarding his birth certificate, instead of just letting a court determine the validity to it. He did live in Indonesia afterall.
    2. It is known that Barack’s paternal side of the family were all muslims, including Barack at one point, while in Indonesia. It’s okay to enjoy and appreciate your religion, but to look at the American people and say “I was never a muslim”, come on now, are we that stupid???? Okay, the liberals are.
    3. The freudian slip while being interviewed with George Stephanopoulos, of “my muslim faith”, Stephanopoulos corrected him and said “Christian”. Personally, I am an agnostic, and the words “christian, jew or muslim” would never come out of my mouth, would never cross my mind, and therefore, wouldn’t “slip” out. But that is besides the point.
    4. Barack said the most beautiful sound on earth is the “muslim call to prayer”. WTF?!! Any bias here?
    5. Barack REFUSED to disclose Columbia and Harvard school records, and okay, maybe he wasn’t that smart in school, and I can see why he would not want to release those crappy grades, but a BIG RED FLAG went up (and no not the communist flag), when Percy Sutton was asked by Khalid Al Mansour (an advisor to a wealthy Saudi Prince, and known jew hater) if he can get Barack Obama into Harvard. Khalid believed Percy still had connections. Well, guess who went to Harvard? Now, having heard this, I DO WANT TO KNOW, how did Khalid Al Mansour meet Obama? And was some Arab or Arabs funding this self-professed “poor black person…raised on foodstamps” to go to these prestigious schools? Allah only knows.
    5. I wathed this video with Gaddafi. Well, well, it’s just getting better isn’t it.
    6. The L.A. Times state they have a vidoe of Barack with his Palestian friend and possible jew bashing going on, but LA times refuse to release it. Makes one very “suspicious”, not the liberals, just me.
    7. Obama just returned back from Hawaii and now his birth certifiate is now sealed by the Governor. Does Obama think he is “cute” playing with our judicial system and possibly our Constitution (the document Obama believes is “flawed”) What is this dude hiding?
    8. Obama belonged to a “Christian-loving, god fearing church”??….NOT, and for 20 years!!! He has even mocked the bible from his own MOUTH. Part of me thinks Obama would never dare mock the Quran in such a fashion…never! Goes back to possible muslim roots!
    9. In obama’s own words…”he sought out the Maxist professors….”, also stated “redistribution of weatlth”, that alone is hitting a good majority of the Jews in America. Did you know Rev. Wright hates jews, he is a mentor to Obama. A mentor Obama cannot disown, no more than he can disown his white grandma. Hmmm, Obama felt his grandma was racist, but not his preacher?! WTF?
    10. Obama refused to be “patriotic” and place his hands over his heart during the national anthem. Hey, like I said, I am agnostic, and its not upsetting to me to place my hand over my heart during the national anthem. Also, he hates to wear the American flag on his lapel. Give me a break. You talk about the “seas parting and a light coming down from somewhere” and all that drama crap, but you can’t put a little stupid flag on your lapel, show a little unity of patriotism. Trust me that flag has nothing to do with god. Its just a pin.
    11. All of the above are not the reasons why I’m not voting for Barack. The reasons why I’m not voting for Barack are due to his “experience”. The “change of politics” bullsh** slogan, that he preaches is a lie. It sounds like politics as usual to kick your opponents off the ballot and run unopposed for state senator. Yes, that is so not “change”. As a state senator, he was a COWARD and voted “present” over 120 times. Give me a break…that’s a leader? If he can’t stand up to the pressures of Illinois Politics, can he undertake the pressures of being the biggest, most powerful LEADER in the WORLD, the President of the U.S.A!!!! Let me see a vision: His secretary of state comes to him and says: Iran has launched nuclear weapons at our allies, what do you want to do? No Obama, you may not say “present”, make a God D^mn decision, you’re not in Illinois anymore.
    I could go on and on about the facts why he should not be our president, but I have to go now.

  • blog force one

    Obama read the Trumpet Journal that was delivered to his home every month ! he Knew EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH REV. WRIGHT!

  • andySF

    It’s the same thing I live through in China!!! They turn neighbor against each other, they turn student against teacher, they turn husband against wife and they turn children against their parents. This is what’s happening in this election.

    Joe is not an official of any kind, is he? Joe is not trying to get your vote, is he? Joe is not going to run my government, is he? Joe is not applying for a job, is he? Joe is not working for any campaign at the time he ask the question, is he? Why should he be vett? It’s not OK to vett Obama, but is perfectly OK to vett a private CITIZEN in the US of A, we have a name for this, DICTATOSHIP!!!! You people disgust me. If you think I move from China to be a US citizen and served it’s military for another socialist dictatorship, you are mistaking.No Obama, no to people like you who don’t believe in the constitution, and no to oppression.

    For you to accuse me of buying everything said about Obama just show me how smart you really are. Go back to what I posted and you will see that I always argued issues. Obama had lie about every policy he put out. He’s plan are all a punch of unworkable lies.

    As I said, people like you should move to Cuba and get a taste of that. People like you who had never been outside of your little world and know nothing about the real world should be the right people to call others out, not. To bad the constitution that your candidate step all over protects even people like you.

  • jrterrier

    what’s up with shep smith. i was watching today and he was trying to force a radio broadcaster from Alaska, who is friendly with Palin to say that there was a rift between palin and mccain. the guy kept on denying that palin had said any such thing to him and shep wouldn’t let up.

  • andrew191

    Joe made the perfectly understandable mistake of speaking from his gut. I’m speaking from my gut when I say that Obama is a pathological liar. There are plenty of examples of his mendacity, and I suppose a Devils advocate could defend Obama (literally as well as figuretively)with plausible excuses for his countless lies, I’ve simply chosen the most direct conclusion, that being that Obama is as comfortable at lying as he is at breathing.

    Now, if I proceed with the firm belief that nothing Obama says can be taken at face value, then promises, statements, policies, opinions, stated religious beliefs, or anything that Obama might offer up, should all be viewed as having a self serving purpose. He’ll lie if it serves him, and he’ll speak the truth if that serves him, but how are we to know the difference?

    That brings us back to Joe. His opinion about Obama’s disdain for Isreal is probably not based upon a single quotation from Obama, or something Obama put into print, but upon the general impression Obama radiates from years of close association with known anti-Semites, such that any lip service Obama might give to Isreal should be viewed with utmost skepticism. I’m with Joe, Obama is no friend of Isreal.

  • Shep Shag

    I’m not sure I want to jump on Shep for doing his job right. I wish more of them were as tough and snarky.

    It is obvious to anyone with two eys and one nose (or three eyes and two noses depending on your drink of choice) that Joe the Plumber is in the tank for McCain. I support Joe supporting McCain!

    But we can’t demand that CNN and MSNBC be more fair and unbiased while cheering a biased network with a biased Joe being glad handed by a biased talking head.

    If nothing else, Shep can say he’s trying.

    I want more, please!

  • Shep Shag

    Exhibit “A.”

    The new Fox. No longer a Republican Hack Station. Shep will prove it.

    I smell Benjamins.

  • No Fraudz

    Joe is so right!

    HE’s GOT IT!!

    GO DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!

    Don’t encourage anyone, especially those whose job
    it is to hunt down news and report it,
    to sit on their FANNIE, do no real investigative journalism, and yet pretend they’re devil’s advocate for the deceivers?!

    For those who really need a jumpstart for a smitten relative or friend, here’s a teaser!!

    Exactly what the Doctor ordered!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-3C0v8eVfw

  • brendy

    Shep Shag: There is a HUGE difference between Shephard Smith interviewing an everyday ‘citizen/civilian’ and a POLITICAL CANDIDATE. The everyday ‘citizen’ in NO way will affect how our lives will turn out – BUT a policitian WILL.

    Smith looked like a big bully jerk pickin’ on the ‘little’ guy by INTERROGATING him for his THOUGHTS/BELIEFS and letting the ‘big’ guy slide.

  • tampagurl

    “what I think is that this constant wound, that this constant sore, does infect all of our foreign policy”

    http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_on_zionism_and_hamas.php

  • TeakWoodKite

    According to Ayers in “Osawatomie”,

    “Revolutionaries must be orginizers”.

    BO, when choosing his career path, could have clerked for the Supremes but “decided” to be a community “orginizer”.
    http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf
    p54.

    Remember McPeek on stage with BO in Oregon?
    BO saying it was “cool”. If I was an Israeli pol or intel, I would have been concerned about it right then.

    It would be interesting to see what Israeli intel has on Khalidi and company.

    In this case LJ, I have to say it is starting sound like Hillary saying “I agree with Joe”. Not the Senator.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Sheep is going to look pretty stupid when that LAT tape comes out.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Really! And it has an awful smell…like I don’t know…sulfur?

  • andrew191

    Hey BI, you’re right, the kid that pointed out that the Emperor had no clothes should have been vetted, then humiliated, then destroyed. The filthy brat.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Shep has been in the bag for Barry forever. I stopped watching him weeks ago. The only ones I can stand are Hannity and Greta…oh yes, and dear Huck.

  • Mairi

    Just sent this e-mail to Shep. He is really one of FOX’s MOST pathetic offerings in MHO.
    There’s a reason why I DON’T watch your program, Shep, you don’t know the news.
    First, if you don’t understand the reason Israel is in BIG trouble with a Barack presidency, here are just a few good reasons:
    Have you heard about the LAT video that is ALL over the news? DING…..DING…..DING…….any bells going off yet? Ever hear of Rashid Khalidi?
    Let’s try something a bit easier…….Jeremiah Wright. Jew hater, Israel hater, 20 year relationship. Not thrown under the bus until he practically INSULTED Barack in public at a news gathering………anything coming through yet…….?
    Let’s try again……How about Louis Farrakhan? Name ring any bells? Jew hater, Israel hater…..calls Barack the “messiah”?
    Not yet, eh?
    Try this…….Al Mansour…….gee maybe I spelled that one wrong…….I really don’t care……I believe he was a bit of a Barack “benefactor”…..helped him enter Harvard…….any bells yet, Shep? DUH!
    There are more……those should be EASY for you to find though……..if you ever get your head put back in the RIGHT place!
    Really sad that some innocent plumber knows the news, and Israel’s fate MUCH better than you……..seems you forgot what the word “journalist” means, but please, don’t humiliate yourself by taking it out on poor Joe…….
    Oh…..and BTW…….remember you must ALWAYS watch what Barack is doing……NOT what he is saying! He’s not always quite on the up-and-up……just sayin’……..
    Mairi

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Now at 51% yes.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Yes, I’ve lost three or four but then it led me to ask…”What have any of those people done for me lately that I need their approval?” Answer: “Not a thing.” Those are the people I can do without and this difference of position simply highlighted what should have been obvious all along.

  • bethtopaz

    He lost me with his histrionics during Katrina.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    I imagine Joe has been pretty busy since his comment rocketed him to local hero status. The thing people love about it was the spontaneous nature of the whole encounter.

    I imagine, like Sarah, it’ll take a few days of down time to get his talking points in order so he can have some facts at hand. He knows the story but it takes some prep to be able to pull it out at a moment’s notice.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Concern troll…go away.

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    Thank you. That pretty much sums it up. Make that “Me too.”

  • http://firefox McAnnie Baracuda

    If every commentator on Fox was biased toward McCain, he’d still be outnumbered by NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN. I’ve never seen more lopsided coverage. So if you add a couple of he Fox commentators as well, it makes me angry.

  • brendy

    Thanks Judy!

  • Blue Intrigue

    He was referring to the Israeli policy of building settlements in the West Bank, not to Israel itself.

    I want to solve the problem, and so my job in being a friend to Israel is partly to hold up a mirror and tell the truth and say if Israel is building settlements without any regard to the effects that this has on the peace process, then we’re going to be stuck in the same status quo that we’ve been stuck in for decades now

    Obama sees the reality of the situation and understands the difficulty of navigating a path that will lead to peace without alienating the hard-liners. He proves that he understands both sides of the issue and recognizes the suffering of the Palestinians. You obviously don’t grasp the complexity of the situation. It is possible to be pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian. In fact, it is necessary to achieve peace.

  • Ani

    Then tak to John McCain — don’t destroy an innocent citizen.

    There is no excuse for your comment. Nor does it make any sense.

  • EWard

    Cincy

    Go back to your dungeon!

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “barracuda” Nedich

    gee have we heard this before?

    Joe is exactly and perfectly correct.

    FISA??? anybody remember what Obama promised america on FISA???

    Obama is a liar… and there are many examples of it…

    Joe is a HERO!!!!!!

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “barracuda” Nedich

    A M E N ! ! ! ! !

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • Geo

    “Yes, this is America…when a dolt like Joe the Plummer”

    Keep talking! More attacks on Joe the Plumber just proves our point.

    You have done The Marxist Messiah great harm. And for that we thank you.

  • Geo

    “Both these guys, McCain and Obama, will support Israel to the max”

    You mean like how Obama supported his Muslim jew hating cousin Odinga with his call for sariah law in Kenya.

    Bwaaahhhh!

  • scarface

    I am glad Joe is running for office. He never had such aspirations before the spotlight landed on him, so he seems to have more well meaning intentions than the general run-of-the-mill politician. I am rooting for Joe because if I were him, I would say “f*** it!” and just do what is right, fight for issues that matter to average folks like us, because what else have I got to lose? Even if I don’t win, I would have tried to get the voice of the people out there and piss the hell out of the MSM.

    And you know why the MSM cannot stand him? Because he speaks from the heart and they cannot make him stutter or spin his words around as he always has a good honest comeback. Dolts like Shep Smith are probably blinded by their educationliteracy and ego, and have to psychoanalyze everything people say, when Joe is just stating the obvious conclusions that is on many people’s minds.

    We may not know all the statistics and convoluted details of campaign issues by heart, but we know an empty suit when we see one. The MSM has lost all my respect and I foresee their short lives in future election cycles. Unless they clean their act and start doing their jobs by investigating statements before they open their mouths, we will see more and more voters going on blogspheres like this and do their jobs for them.

  • Geo

    Way to Go! Good email.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    get real; we know who supports israel, and we know who supports the type of people who want to wipe israel off the map. nice try.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    if you think the only thing the jew-haters want is an end to settlements in the west bank, or wherever, you are dreaming. i don’t think there is a single arab country that even shows israel on their maps; the whole area is referred to as “occupied palestine.”

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “barracuda” Nedich
  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/ gerard “barracuda” Nedich

    oops…

    forgot this one…

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/Page/IndexParMult&cid=1145961369337

    they have a special section on Iran and the World’s Favorite Holocaust Denier™

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • Liz B

    Well there you go, Obama is half way there then…he is Pro-Palestine.

  • Fran

    Shep is just upset that they ran out of his favorite mascara. He has always come across as a bit of a pretty boy.

  • LessaStone

    It seems to me that FOX as well is probably afraid of loosing Obama’s advertising dollars. Remember his self homage is airing tonight on the regular Fox channel. We all know what happens when you don’t toe the line…you get cut off.

  • Not That One

    lol

    we were watching last night and my 6 year old asked if that was “a man or woman?” — I think it’s the eye shadow and plucked eyebrows!

  • Leisa

    Do you know how Persians think? Do you understand their politics? Regime change, it sure cost us a fortune in Iraq, and you do not even know “who” is really in charge of Iran.

    They are on the verge of having nukes. I do not think our allies in Europe feel comfortable about that. What level of diplomacy do you think will convince Iran to cease their quest for nukes?

  • RAG DOLL

    I saw Shepherd Smith try and rake Joe over the coals, however he really did not get very far, but even after the interview he continued to blast Joe.
    Shep Smith is a gay man, and is an Obama supporter.
    I hear Mr. Smith is a very close friend of “Andrew Sullivan” and we all know about dear Andrew.

    Joe has great instincts and has once again proven that.

  • Peggy Sue

    Without vetting???? Since when did a private American citizen need vetting to ask a question? Joe the Plumber isn’t running for POTUS. Obama is.

    But you’re so right. Obama didn’t do the smearing, he let his henchmen do that. Talk about patterns!!!!

    The question wasn’t the problem. Obama’s answer was the problem. And then, the audio from 2002 to season the sauce.

    And words matter, remember? Your own candidate made a grand speech on that point [plagerized but why be a nit-picker]. The words matter, the words themselves, not all the frantic explanations after the case.

    Give me a break! Your candidate’s a fraud, has been from the very start.

  • goldengrahme

    American schizophrenia–that could be the name of a new movie, a rock group or a systemic illness.

    There is more going on currently than a racial
    divide or political schism; it is deeper, more malignant and is threatening our very foundations.

    Barack Obama is simply evidencing those symptoms
    on a national level in the spotlight of 24/7 exposure. However, the underlying malady shows
    dry rot at the roots. He straddles both sides of every issue because he woos differing voter blocs.

    He gets away with this duplicity because the MSM
    and we, as spectators and accomplices, avert eyes. The national split personality and lack of purpose will soon be our undoing. If I didn’t believe that, I would close up this computer and move to Figi or some unchartered island in the tropics.

    Time is wasting, people. We hang together, or–
    you know the drill….

  • RAG DOLL

    Sharon, how do you know Obama has always been a friend to Israel. “Because he said it”, well this man is a liar. His past associates and strong relationships with men such as Robert Malley, Rashid Khalidi, Louis Farrakhan,
    Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Frank Marshall Davis.
    and on and on. Robert Malley was a campaign adviser who is also a Hamas supporter and Malley was thrown under the bus when that became known by the public.
    I don’t really think any of these maggots are friends of Israel and neither is Obama.

  • RAG DOLL

    Random Guy was probably removed by the “Site Admin”

  • RAG DOLL

    Hap Hazard,

    Get you communist ass off this site.

    Larry, Susan, please remove this maggot and ban him from posting. He/she is disgusting, hateful and stupid.

  • RAG DOLL

    Hap Hazard,

    Sorry I misread your post, apology.

  • macheiss

    DID ANYONE NOTICE THE DOW JONES TICKER ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN SHOWING 666…WHILE SHOWING CLIPS OF “BO” AND TALKING ABOUT THE “DEATH OF ISRAEL”…HMMMMMMM?

  • macheiss

    CINCY I HOPE YOU DIE A SLOW HORRIBLE DEATH IN A GAS CHAMBER IN ONE OF OBAMA’S “RE-EDUCATION” DEATH CAMPS YOU KOOL AID DRINKING JIM JONES LOVING
    FOOOOOOOOOL….

  • waldenpond

    I actually had to write Fox on this one. Hiding Obama’s past is media corruption, but telling a citizen they can not speak out against Obama was over the top. This happened to Clinton in the primary… the media attacked her for merely campaigning against Obama saying it would damage him if he gets elected.

    Why isn’t McCain continuing to go after the media? I wonder if polling shows it doesn’t work.

  • postmaster

    sharon, did your post appear stupid, or is it the lighting?

  • Wisewoman

    Blue Intrigue. Why are you so dishonest in your posts? Training by Obama? He was not referring to any settlements. Liar.

  • Just Another Dissappointed Republican voting for Obama

    Give a useful idiot a soap box and he’ll say anything. This guy has been Joe the liar from the start. The use of this clown by the R’s just proves how bankrupt the party and campaign is. This guy knows nothing about Israel, or the history of foriegn regarding Israel. I think this further proves that a Mccain presidency would be dangerously schizophrenic and ineffective.

    News Flash- Wednesday morning, November 5th: Where’s Joe the Plumber? Answer: Back in the hole he crawled out of and waiting for the IRS to kick his door in.

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