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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking at the poll numbers on Real Clear Politics tonight and noticed an article titled &quot;The Final Days&quot; authored by Susan Estrich.  I clicked and she&#039;s discussing that the polls indicate Senator Obama should win but if he doesn&#039;t - she can come up with only one reason:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The only way all these polls could be that far off is if people are lying in numbers never before seen in American politics.

Why would they do that?

You tell me it has nothing to do with race. I&#039;ll laugh. What else could it possibly be?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m so tired of this.  I&#039;m a liberal tree and bunny rabbit hugging independent who is more likely to vote for the Democratic candidate over the Republican.  I&#039;m informed.  I spend hours researching every candidate and proposition on my ballot.  In this election, for the presidential slot I&#039;m abandoning my political ideology to vote for Senator McCain.  I&#039;ve been honest about it.  And I&#039;ve been called a racist.  When I didn&#039;t jump on the Governor Palin bandwagon and thought there were some flaws in her choice that wouldn&#039;t lock in all the Clinton supporters, I was a troll.

Now along comes Ms. Estrich. She&#039;s an intelligent, skilled woman and one I wouldn&#039;t want to go up against in court.  She&#039;s decided if people are pretending to vote for Senator Obama to avoid the backlash I&#039;ve experienced, they must be racists.  It couldn&#039;t be they don&#039;t want to defend their choice on the unfair and ridiculous allegation that they&#039;re a closet racist.  

People have valid, legitimate reasons for choosing any other candidate than Senator Obama, none of them based on race.

1. Some are scared he&#039;s a socialist. If he is, it doesn&#039;t bother me.
 
2.  His associations and friendships with a platoon of questionable, far left or criminal  individuals worry many people.   I&#039;m not one that thinks because a person hangs out with X people, they hold X views.  I like having an eclectic group of friends and family - it keeps my mind open to other views and learning. However, we&#039;ve ending an administration where the right wingers have had their hands out pocketing hundreds of billions of dollars. I don&#039;t know if Senator Obama holds the same views as his associates, but I do know they have financed and promoted his career for over twenty years and they are going to expect to have more Federal funds funneled into their pet projects.  Our economy can&#039;t handle doing the same for the left wingers.  It&#039;s not fair to the neolibs that the neocons got so much of the pie, but there&#039;s no crumbs left for the neolibs.  They should have gotten their act together in &#039;04 and rigged that election instead of this one.

3.  Other people are worried about his possibility of dual citizenship.  If he does have dual citizenship, my guess is the Supreme Court wouldn&#039;t rule that it prevents him from being president.  For me, this isn&#039;t a major issue but for many it is.

4. Many people don&#039;t like his tax and spend plan.  I&#039;m not excited about that either.  But I&#039;m not betting the farm that my taxes won&#039;t be raised one way or another under a McCain administration.

5.  Senator Obama finished his schooling over sixteen years ago and try as I might, I can&#039;t find anything he&#039;s done in any of this careers that is noteworthy.  No one comes forward to even state that he was always able to get the copy machine working when the light with the little guy with the wrench lit up.  They mention granting money or using his position as a state senator to funnel money into different programs - but every single one of those programs either brought about insignificant changes or ended up as a dismal failure.  I&#039;m supposed to believe he&#039;s a success because he was editor of a law review.  I was on the law review in law school and I know the editor in chief is usually the person in the class who excels at balancing brown-nosing with back stabbing.  Not a skill I find admirable.

6. Senator Obama shows an inability to admit he has or has had associations and friendships with people who aren&#039;t mainstream America.  He mitigates the relationships and tosses people under the bus.  His friends can&#039;t trust him, he tosses them out when they become a liability instead of standing up for his choices.  If your friends can&#039;t trust you, the nation can&#039;t.

7.  Senator Obama has an aversion to a free press and free speech.  He trounces on it whenever things aren&#039;t going his way.  If he&#039;s unwilling to answer the difficult questions and face the music of his choices, he should be in another line of work.  

Reasos 2, 5, 6 and 7 are why I&#039;m not voting for Senator Obama.  I&#039;d like to vote for a Democratic candidate for president.  I really would.  I even like some of his ideas and plans.  The problem is, I don&#039;t know which ones he really plans to follow through on.  And if he does, I have no idea if he would have any success, there&#039;s no track record of successes.

I love that I Iive in a nation where both the neolibs, neocons and moderates can battle for control of the White House.   I&#039;d vote for a liberal candidate  if I thought the candidate would do more good than bad for the country.  Senator Obama, didn&#039;t clinch the deal with me.  I&#039;m not afraid to say so, I have a tough shell.  Many people don&#039;t, they don&#039;t want to be called racists when they aren&#039;t.  If they&#039;re lying to the pollsters about who they&#039;re voting for, it&#039;s not because they&#039;re racists.  From what I&#039;ve seen in this campaign, the racists are pretty upfront about why they won&#039;t vote for Senator Obama.  The ones who don&#039;t volunteer they&#039;re voting for Senator McCain over Senator Obama do so because they don&#039;t want to be lumped with the racists. Look at how the lady who said she thought Senator Obama was Arab was treated by the news and SNL.

Unfortunately, Ms. Estrich has confirmed for me that it probably would have been better if I&#039;d lied and said I was supporting Senator Obama instead of letting everyone know I&#039;m not voting for him.  If Senator McCain wins the election in the wee hours of November 5th, when I take my McCain sign down from my yard later in the day, I will be branded as a racist.  It doesn&#039;t matter that my reasons for choosing not to vote for Senator Obama has nothing to do with his skin color or ethnic background, I&#039;m a racist because I chose REAL issues in this campaign to base my vote on.

     
The rest of Ms Estrich&#039;s article can be found at:

http://www.creators.com/opinion/susan-estrich/the-final-days-2008-10-31.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at the poll numbers on Real Clear Politics tonight and noticed an article titled &#8220;The Final Days&#8221; authored by Susan Estrich.  I clicked and she&#8217;s discussing that the polls indicate Senator Obama should win but if he doesn&#8217;t &#8211; she can come up with only one reason:</p>
<blockquote><p>The only way all these polls could be that far off is if people are lying in numbers never before seen in American politics.</p>
<p>Why would they do that?</p>
<p>You tell me it has nothing to do with race. I&#8217;ll laugh. What else could it possibly be?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m so tired of this.  I&#8217;m a liberal tree and bunny rabbit hugging independent who is more likely to vote for the Democratic candidate over the Republican.  I&#8217;m informed.  I spend hours researching every candidate and proposition on my ballot.  In this election, for the presidential slot I&#8217;m abandoning my political ideology to vote for Senator McCain.  I&#8217;ve been honest about it.  And I&#8217;ve been called a racist.  When I didn&#8217;t jump on the Governor Palin bandwagon and thought there were some flaws in her choice that wouldn&#8217;t lock in all the Clinton supporters, I was a troll.</p>
<p>Now along comes Ms. Estrich. She&#8217;s an intelligent, skilled woman and one I wouldn&#8217;t want to go up against in court.  She&#8217;s decided if people are pretending to vote for Senator Obama to avoid the backlash I&#8217;ve experienced, they must be racists.  It couldn&#8217;t be they don&#8217;t want to defend their choice on the unfair and ridiculous allegation that they&#8217;re a closet racist.  </p>
<p>People have valid, legitimate reasons for choosing any other candidate than Senator Obama, none of them based on race.</p>
<p>1. Some are scared he&#8217;s a socialist. If he is, it doesn&#8217;t bother me.</p>
<p>2.  His associations and friendships with a platoon of questionable, far left or criminal  individuals worry many people.   I&#8217;m not one that thinks because a person hangs out with X people, they hold X views.  I like having an eclectic group of friends and family &#8211; it keeps my mind open to other views and learning. However, we&#8217;ve ending an administration where the right wingers have had their hands out pocketing hundreds of billions of dollars. I don&#8217;t know if Senator Obama holds the same views as his associates, but I do know they have financed and promoted his career for over twenty years and they are going to expect to have more Federal funds funneled into their pet projects.  Our economy can&#8217;t handle doing the same for the left wingers.  It&#8217;s not fair to the neolibs that the neocons got so much of the pie, but there&#8217;s no crumbs left for the neolibs.  They should have gotten their act together in &#8217;04 and rigged that election instead of this one.</p>
<p>3.  Other people are worried about his possibility of dual citizenship.  If he does have dual citizenship, my guess is the Supreme Court wouldn&#8217;t rule that it prevents him from being president.  For me, this isn&#8217;t a major issue but for many it is.</p>
<p>4. Many people don&#8217;t like his tax and spend plan.  I&#8217;m not excited about that either.  But I&#8217;m not betting the farm that my taxes won&#8217;t be raised one way or another under a McCain administration.</p>
<p>5.  Senator Obama finished his schooling over sixteen years ago and try as I might, I can&#8217;t find anything he&#8217;s done in any of this careers that is noteworthy.  No one comes forward to even state that he was always able to get the copy machine working when the light with the little guy with the wrench lit up.  They mention granting money or using his position as a state senator to funnel money into different programs &#8211; but every single one of those programs either brought about insignificant changes or ended up as a dismal failure.  I&#8217;m supposed to believe he&#8217;s a success because he was editor of a law review.  I was on the law review in law school and I know the editor in chief is usually the person in the class who excels at balancing brown-nosing with back stabbing.  Not a skill I find admirable.</p>
<p>6. Senator Obama shows an inability to admit he has or has had associations and friendships with people who aren&#8217;t mainstream America.  He mitigates the relationships and tosses people under the bus.  His friends can&#8217;t trust him, he tosses them out when they become a liability instead of standing up for his choices.  If your friends can&#8217;t trust you, the nation can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>7.  Senator Obama has an aversion to a free press and free speech.  He trounces on it whenever things aren&#8217;t going his way.  If he&#8217;s unwilling to answer the difficult questions and face the music of his choices, he should be in another line of work.  </p>
<p>Reasos 2, 5, 6 and 7 are why I&#8217;m not voting for Senator Obama.  I&#8217;d like to vote for a Democratic candidate for president.  I really would.  I even like some of his ideas and plans.  The problem is, I don&#8217;t know which ones he really plans to follow through on.  And if he does, I have no idea if he would have any success, there&#8217;s no track record of successes.</p>
<p>I love that I Iive in a nation where both the neolibs, neocons and moderates can battle for control of the White House.   I&#8217;d vote for a liberal candidate  if I thought the candidate would do more good than bad for the country.  Senator Obama, didn&#8217;t clinch the deal with me.  I&#8217;m not afraid to say so, I have a tough shell.  Many people don&#8217;t, they don&#8217;t want to be called racists when they aren&#8217;t.  If they&#8217;re lying to the pollsters about who they&#8217;re voting for, it&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re racists.  From what I&#8217;ve seen in this campaign, the racists are pretty upfront about why they won&#8217;t vote for Senator Obama.  The ones who don&#8217;t volunteer they&#8217;re voting for Senator McCain over Senator Obama do so because they don&#8217;t want to be lumped with the racists. Look at how the lady who said she thought Senator Obama was Arab was treated by the news and SNL.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Ms. Estrich has confirmed for me that it probably would have been better if I&#8217;d lied and said I was supporting Senator Obama instead of letting everyone know I&#8217;m not voting for him.  If Senator McCain wins the election in the wee hours of November 5th, when I take my McCain sign down from my yard later in the day, I will be branded as a racist.  It doesn&#8217;t matter that my reasons for choosing not to vote for Senator Obama has nothing to do with his skin color or ethnic background, I&#8217;m a racist because I chose REAL issues in this campaign to base my vote on.</p>
<p>The rest of Ms Estrich&#8217;s article can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.creators.com/opinion/susan-estrich/the-final-days-2008-10-31.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.creators.com/opinion/susan-estrich/the-final-days-2008-10-31.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-983183</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was the Washington Times, not the WaPo, my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the Washington Times, not the WaPo, my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Leibniz08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982776</link>
		<dc:creator>Leibniz08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Steve

All we need is a picture of Dohrn giving
the &quot;fork salute&quot; in solidarity to their
racist mirror- Charlie Manson and the Family!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Steve</p>
<p>All we need is a picture of Dohrn giving<br />
the &#8220;fork salute&#8221; in solidarity to their<br />
racist mirror- Charlie Manson and the Family!</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Obma  has a ad running saying we are lying more less saying John McCain is playing audio.Now we all heard what Biden said and with the ad Obama is runningit&#039;s they are playing with audio and it&#039;s a bad audio trick at that.lol He can paly the video of the day and why not?Cause  he can&#039;t...So  listen to  his ad if yopu happen to hear it.Liten to the bad audio that Obama made in it.You see who is playing with audio?Obama cause he can show the real thing of Biden saying what he said.

NOOBAMA!

Mccain /Palin 08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Obma  has a ad running saying we are lying more less saying John McCain is playing audio.Now we all heard what Biden said and with the ad Obama is runningit&#8217;s they are playing with audio and it&#8217;s a bad audio trick at that.lol He can paly the video of the day and why not?Cause  he can&#8217;t&#8230;So  listen to  his ad if yopu happen to hear it.Liten to the bad audio that Obama made in it.You see who is playing with audio?Obama cause he can show the real thing of Biden saying what he said.</p>
<p>NOOBAMA!</p>
<p>Mccain /Palin 08</p>
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		<title>By: athena</title>
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		<dc:creator>athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that this morning on the radio news too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that this morning on the radio news too.</p>
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		<title>By: looking for integrity</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982475</link>
		<dc:creator>looking for integrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>athy,

The linked article no longer exists,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>athy,</p>
<p>The linked article no longer exists,</p>
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		<title>By: athena</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982358</link>
		<dc:creator>athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were earthquakes in Dallas last nite - I am being totally serious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were earthquakes in Dallas last nite &#8211; I am being totally serious!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982327</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worse is that they assume you cannot possible think any different than them and at the minimal question about Obama&#039;s positions they launch a full blown assault. They are nuts. 

They take full liberty repeating Keith Olberman garbage, insulting Palin (which infurates me to the extreme) and laughing the a$$es off mocking 
McC/P and  it is enough to raise one question 
challenging their echo chamber for them to go biserc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worse is that they assume you cannot possible think any different than them and at the minimal question about Obama&#8217;s positions they launch a full blown assault. They are nuts. </p>
<p>They take full liberty repeating Keith Olberman garbage, insulting Palin (which infurates me to the extreme) and laughing the a$$es off mocking<br />
McC/P and  it is enough to raise one question<br />
challenging their echo chamber for them to go biserc</p>
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		<title>By: athena</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982204</link>
		<dc:creator>athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I would say he is FAR worse than George Bush.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I would say he is FAR worse than George Bush&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see it now, &quot;Israel must be condemned as a racist state&quot;...

I am really disgusted by these people that are trying to claim moral superiority by victimizing a group and inflaming emotions in an already difficult situation.

If Ayers and Dohrn really cared about slavery, they would be working to have human trafficking and exploitation that occurrs around the world to this day eradicated.  

They are not contributing helpful dialog in solving the problems in the Middle East. They are adding fuel to the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see it now, &#8220;Israel must be condemned as a racist state&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I am really disgusted by these people that are trying to claim moral superiority by victimizing a group and inflaming emotions in an already difficult situation.</p>
<p>If Ayers and Dohrn really cared about slavery, they would be working to have human trafficking and exploitation that occurrs around the world to this day eradicated.  </p>
<p>They are not contributing helpful dialog in solving the problems in the Middle East. They are adding fuel to the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982124</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard he even removed the WaPo that endorsed &lt;em&gt;him&lt;/em&gt;. The One&#039;s skin problem is that it is too thin. What a bunch of thugs....

The LAT better wake up and stop aiding and abetting Obama and covering up his disgraceful association with Ayres, Khalid and all those Israel haters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard he even removed the WaPo that endorsed <em>him</em>. The One&#8217;s skin problem is that it is too thin. What a bunch of thugs&#8230;.</p>
<p>The LAT better wake up and stop aiding and abetting Obama and covering up his disgraceful association with Ayres, Khalid and all those Israel haters.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982101</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typewroterstreaming:

How can you justify Shiloh coming here to a post of Steve Diamond and insult &lt;em&gt;him&lt;/em&gt;? 

He should not come here to insult the NQ writers and contributors.

That is not &quot;valuable energy&quot; that&#039;s having an anger management problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typewroterstreaming:</p>
<p>How can you justify Shiloh coming here to a post of Steve Diamond and insult <em>him</em>? </p>
<p>He should not come here to insult the NQ writers and contributors.</p>
<p>That is not &#8220;valuable energy&#8221; that&#8217;s having an anger management problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982037</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiloh: you are a complete immature moron and I think you are the troll here. GROW UP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiloh: you are a complete immature moron and I think you are the troll here. GROW UP.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5802/the-biden-gaffe-a-race-for-the-soul-of-the-next-president/#comment-982006</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefly:

I agree; look at this full article:

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-changeable-voters

Among other things it says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;One in seven, or 14 percent, can’t decide or back a candidate but might switch, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll of likely voters released Friday.Who are they? They look a lot like the voters who’ve already locked onto a candidate, though they’re more likely to be white and less likely to be liberal. And they disproportionately backed Hillary Rodham Clinton’s failed run for the Democratic nomination. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Almost four in 10 persuadables lean toward McCain, and about as many are considering backing Obama, while the rest are either undecided or lean toward other candidates. Viewed another way, about one in every 10 supporters of Obama or McCain says he could still change his mind.

Even so, persuadable voters could be especially fertile hunting ground for McCain in the closing days of a contest in which most polls show him trailing. These people trust Obama less than decided voters do to handle the economy, the Iraq war and terrorism. They are less accepting that the Illinois senator has enough experience to be president. And by a 17 percentage-point spread, more see Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin favorably than unfavorably, unlike the narrow majority of voters already backing a candidate who dislike her.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And this is from Yahoo; that has been shilling for Obama. So... if &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; say so; it must be even worse for the BO camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefly:</p>
<p>I agree; look at this full article:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-changeable-voters" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-changeable-voters</a></p>
<p>Among other things it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>One in seven, or 14 percent, can’t decide or back a candidate but might switch, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll of likely voters released Friday.Who are they? They look a lot like the voters who’ve already locked onto a candidate, though they’re more likely to be white and less likely to be liberal. And they disproportionately backed Hillary Rodham Clinton’s failed run for the Democratic nomination. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Almost four in 10 persuadables lean toward McCain, and about as many are considering backing Obama, while the rest are either undecided or lean toward other candidates. Viewed another way, about one in every 10 supporters of Obama or McCain says he could still change his mind.</p>
<p>Even so, persuadable voters could be especially fertile hunting ground for McCain in the closing days of a contest in which most polls show him trailing. These people trust Obama less than decided voters do to handle the economy, the Iraq war and terrorism. They are less accepting that the Illinois senator has enough experience to be president. And by a 17 percentage-point spread, more see Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin favorably than unfavorably, unlike the narrow majority of voters already backing a candidate who dislike her.
</p></blockquote>
<p>And this is from Yahoo; that has been shilling for Obama. So&#8230; if <em>they</em> say so; it must be even worse for the BO camp.</p>
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