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An Unexpected Ripple From Egypt

I freely admit, I did not see this one coming. My friend and fellow NQ writer, Linda Anselmi, shared the following article with me, most appropos for bringing to an end Women’s History Month.

And that would be this Bloomberg article, Saudi Women Inspired by Fall of Mubarak Step Up Equality Demand. Wow, right? Honestly, I did not see this as a potential change, primarily because of the influx of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and the very likely scenario that women who enjoyed more freedoms in Egypt, will soon be losing them (if they haven’t already). Sill, this is exciting:

Activists among Saudi Arabia’s women, who can’t drive or vote and need male approval to work and travel, are turning to the type of online organizing that helped topple Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak to force change in a system they say treats them like children.

The “Baladi” or “My Country” campaign is focused on this year’s municipal elections, only the second nationwide ballot that the absolute monarchy has allowed. The election board yesterday said women will be excluded from the Sept. 22 vote. Another group, the Saudi Women’s Revolution, citing inspiration from the Arab activism that grew into revolts against Mubarak and Tunisia’s Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, is pressing for equal treatment and urging international support.

The wave of anti-regime protests that spread from Tunisia and Egypt into some of Saudi Arabia’s Persian Gulf neighbors, such as Bahrain and Oman, hasn’t translated into mass street demonstrations in the kingdom that holds the world’s biggest oil reserves. Saudi rulers have taken steps to ensure it won’t, pledging almost $100 billion of spending on homes, jobs and benefits. They also deployed thousands of police in Riyadh on March 11, when a protest was planned by Internet organizers — a group that increasingly includes Saudi women.

“Women are raised to fear men and to fear speaking out,” said Mona al-Ahmed, a 25-year-old in the coastal city of Jeddah. She said she joined the Women’s Revolution campaign after her brother refused to let her take her dream job, as a biochemist, because it would involve working in a mixed-gender environment. “I opened my eyes one day and said, ‘This is not the life I want’,” al-Ahmed said in a phone interview.

Well, I suppose that is one way of keeping the people in place, right? Ahem.

But this is telling indeed of how women in Saudi Arabia, our ally, live. We may hear bits and pieces about it, but at this point, it seems we just take for granted women are treated like shit there.

Think I am being hyperbolic? Think again:

[snip] Like other opposition and protest groups in Saudi Arabia, the women’s movement faces a tough task. The kingdom ranked as the least democratic state in the Middle East, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit’s 2010 Democracy Index.

“Women will not participate in this session,” Abdul- Rahman al-Dahmash, director of the kingdom’s electoral commission, said at a press conference yesterday, referring to the municipal balloting. “There is a plan, though not with a definite time, to put in place a framework so that women can participate in upcoming elections.”

Baladi said on its Facebook page that Saudi women “are like other women in the world who have hopes and ambitions” and must be allowed to vote.

While Saudi Arabia was placed in the top one-third of nations in the United Nations 2010 Human Development Report — higher than European Union member Bulgaria — its score for gender equality was much lower. On that UN measure, which includes assessments of reproductive health and participation in politics and the labor market, the country ranked 128th of 138 nations, below Iran and Pakistan. [snip]

You know it is bad when you rank BELOW Iran and Pakistan on the treatment of women. Seriously. How bad must you be to be WORSE than Iran and Pakistan??

Let’s just pause for a moment and see how women are treated in Iran (I warn you, this is a difficult video to watch, contains violent images):

Women are worth half as much as men. They are culpable at the age of 9 for “crimes,” while boys aren’t until they are 16. Women cannot divorce their husbands. Men can have many wives. And that is but a minute amount of with what these women live.

Well, how about Pakistan, then? This video gives a good overview (again, difficult to watch):

“Considered to be the property of men.” Uh, yeah. Not allowed to leave the house. Infant girls killed. Slave girls trapped from other countries and sold every day. Education morally corrupts girls, thus they should not have it.

And Saudi Arabia is farther down the list than Pakistan in its treatment of women.

I’m sorry, I need a moment to compose myself.

Back to the reality facing women in Saudi Arabia:

[snip] Saudi Arabia enforces the Wahhabi version of Sunni Islam and its clerics say that requires strict segregation of the sexes, including in government offices, workplaces and public spaces such as restaurants. Other areas of discontent highlighted by women writers and activists include family law. A Saudi man can end his marriage by telling his wife, “You are divorced,” while women must go to a court or an authorized cleric to get a dissolution. Custody of children above a certain age is usually granted to the father.

Saudi Arabia is also one of the few countries that has a high rate of executions for women, Amnesty International said in a 2008 report. (Emphasis mine.) Adultery is among the capital offenses.

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Those are among the goals of the Women’s Revolution group, which began as an exchange of Twitter messages among likeminded women, and now has more than 2,000 Facebook supporters. “Women are treated like minors, except if they commit a crime,” the group said in a statement on Facebook. “Then they are equal.”

Alia al-Faqih, 19, said this year’s Arab revolts inspired her to join the group and demand change in her country.

“The protesters in Egypt and Tunisia did something that was almost impossible,” she said in a telephone interview from Jeddah. “If they could bring down two tough presidents, why can’t we demand our rights?”

Why, indeed? Women in Saudia Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and many countries around the world must do just that – demand their rights. Though as noted above, with the increased presence of the Sharia Law-loving Muslim Brotherhood rising up in Egypt, simply getting a change at the top does not mean a change throughout the country. And in the case of Egypt, it is a change for the worse for women.

And speaking of change, there has been some lip service paid to changing the plight of women in Saudi Arabia, but it is largely window dressing:

[snip] Saudi Arabia’s ruler, King Abdullah, who turns 87 this year, has pledged to improve the status of women. He opened the kingdom’s first co-educational university in 2009, appointed its first female deputy minister, Nora bint Abdullah al-Fayez, the same year, and has promised steps to improve access to jobs for women, who make up about 15 percent of the workforce. That would help improve productivity in the kingdom’s oil-dominated economy, say analysts including John Sfakianakis, chief economist at Banque Saudi Fransi.

A change of policy in 2008 allowed women to stay in hotels without male guardians, and an amendment to the Labor Law allowed women to work in all fields “suitable to their nature.” Women can now study law at university, without being allowed to practice as lawyers in courts.

At some companies, such as billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal’s Kingdom Holding Co. (KINGDOM), women are permitted to work alongside men. That isn’t typical, though. Most companies that hire women must provide a women-only section that is off- limits to the male staff.

Human Rights Watch concluded in January that “reforms to date have involved largely symbolic steps to improve the visibility of women.” [snip] (Click here to read the rest.)

Yes, superficial reforms at best in Saudi Arabia, not the systemic changes in attitude and treatment of women that need to change.

I know I have asked this before, but how, how, in the Twenty-first century, are women around the globe still being treated as less than human, as chattel, as property, as worthless, as animals, as dirt? How do we, as a nation, not demand that the countries with whom we do business treat women as full human beings?

Lest anyone think this is a problem “over there,” I assure you, what happens to women there affects women here. When an 11 year old girl can be gang raped, by adult men, numerous times, right here in Texas, as well as California, we must acknowledge that what happens to women and girls here, in Saudi Arabia, around the world, matters.

It matters a lot. Just after I finished writing this, I received an email from MADRE about the kidnapping and torture of a youth activist in Iraq. This kind of treatment of women is happening day in and day out, sadly.

And so, for those women in Saudi Arabia, may the ripples continue to widen. May they change the way women are treated, at home and abroad, may the treatment of women matter as much as the oil beneath the sands, and may women be treated as fully human around the globe. That is my prayer…

  • SSDD

    I join you Rev. Amy in hoping that change for the good is in store for the women in these ME countries but I am extremely doubtful.  As long as Islam is the predominant religion I don’t think it will ever be possible for things to change for them. 

    Can we really expect males practicing this religion to ever believe that females are entitled to any kind of rights or at least basic humane treatment?  I can’t even begin to imagine the kinds of abuse that women and girls suffer in these countries.  Mental and physical abuse no to mention rape, torture and murder are things these women and girls face on a daily basis.  I don’t think we here in the U.S. can really wrap our minds around it.  Females there have been conditioned for generations that this is just the way things are.  With the upheaval everywhere in the ME, I am afraid things may get much worse for them. 

    Incidentally, I read some years ago that their prophet, Mohammed, married a 6 year old child and had sex with her at 9.  I ask, what kind of religion reveres a pedophile? 

  • SSDD

    I join you Rev. Amy in hoping that change for the good is in store for the women in these ME countries but I am extremely doubtful.  As long as Islam is the predominant religion I don’t think it will ever be possible for things to change for them.   
     
    Can we really expect males practicing this religion to ever believe that females are entitled to any kind of rights or at least basic humane treatment?  I can’t even begin to imagine the kinds of abuse that women and girls suffer in these countries.  Mental and physical abuse no to mention rape, torture and murder are things these women and girls face on a daily basis.  I don’t think we here in the U.S. can really wrap our minds around it.  Females there have been conditioned for generations that this is just the way things are.  With the upheaval everywhere in the ME, I am afraid things may get much worse for them.  

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks for your comment, SSDD. And you are right – we are up against a tremendous amt in changing how women are perceived.

    Along those lines, I just saw an article abt female US Soldiers in Afghanistan being asked to wear the hijab: In an effort to get closer to the local population, American female soldiers stationed in Afghanistan are being encouraged to wear a Muslim headscarf when interacting with civilians. But some question whether the practice constitutes cultural sensitivity or a form of appeasement that is degrading to U.S. soldiers.


    Major Kyndra Rotunda, executive director of the Military Law and Policy Institute and AMVETS Legal Clinic, told The Daily Caller that while the women are not being ordered to wear the head scarf, encouragement is tantamount to a demand.


    “They say they are encouraging women to wear the headscarf when they are out and about and on patrol. But the problem is — and I think anyone who has been in the military understands that being encouraged to do something is about the same thing as being ordered — it really puts them in an uncomfortable position when their commander says, ‘We really want you to do this, technically you don’t have to, but we really want you to do this,’” she said. (Click here to read the rest.)


    Wow…

  • honestlawyermostly

    Rev. Amy– as always, thanks for the excellent post.  It seems that the unequal treatment of women is hard-wired into the male psyche and because of that it is pervasive.  The physical abuse, torture, rape, and murder found in Saudi Arabia is, as you know, prevalent in our society as well, the difference being that one is government sanctioned while the other considered outlaw behavior… sort of.  Then there is this uncomfortable fact.  Two of the largest religious bodies in this country do not allow women to serve as priests or pastors.  Why?  Because the doctrine of these organizations, based on the religious beliefs they espouse, says so.  Is there really a moral difference between what is going on in Saudi Arabia and what is going on in this country?  Or is it just a matter of degree?  I do not know if or when men will be rewired– and a lot of women too who are comfortable with the status quo.  I think it is possible because we did it with race.  It no longer is socially acceptable to see a comedian in black-face.  Amos & Andy would not be tolerated today.  Our President is black.  Society’s attitudes toward race did change.  Society’s attitudes toward women can change.  I will know that day has come when men and women alike look at the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and say, “that just ain’t right.”    

  • honestlawyermostly

    Amy– today we learned that for the next month or so our house will be undergoing major repairs and rennovations– none of it planned or wanted.  Cindy is exhausted but said to tell you thanks so much for this post and all of the other wonderful posts during Women’s History Month.

  • carol haka, Matzo

    Sorry, I can’t concentrate on the World going to Hell in a handbasket!

    OT  I think it is awful that those MegaMillions winners did not share with the usual players that didn’t chip in Tuesday night!  Their selfishness will come back to bite them in the ass!  I would have shared – I will share with all of you when I win!

    :-D

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you for your thoughtful response, Honestlawyer – always a pleasure to hear from you.

    I have to hope you are right that the wiring can be changed. The 2008 campaign really opened my eyes to just how close to the surface misogyny was in this country. Wow, was that ever a shock.

    Oh, dear – so sorry to hear abt the renovations. Yikes. That is hard under the best of circumstances. I’ll be thinking of you two. Tell Cindy to get some rest – she deserves it. You, too!

  • EllenD

    Carol. I would just be happy seeing something unexpectedly good happening to you.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Amen to that, EllenD…

  • EllenD

    To Honest Lawyer and Cindy – I am so sorry to hear about a problem suddenly happening with your house. I hope it wasn’t a tornado, storm or some major disaster like that – it sounds pretty serious.
    Tell Cindy to take it easy. We all are sending good thoughts.

  • armymom

    George and Laura Bush on Greta concerning Afghan women. Pretty interesting.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, right – thank you for the reminder, Armymom. I meant to watch that. In all honesty, I had no idea how much work Laura Bush was doing with women in Afghanistan until after Bush was out of office…

  • helenk

    Rev Amy
    I hope your are watching Greta tonight. George and Laura Bush are on talking about the women in Afghanistan.
    While I was listening to George Bush talk, I had to stop and think and wonder did my partisanship being a democrat  blind me to some of the good he did for women?
    I will never agree that we should have gone into Iraq first and I am sorry that we are still there.
    I will never be a big Bush fan, but maybe May 2008 taught me not  to believe blindly. The taste of crow sucks.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Helenk, I know exactly what you mean. I have asked myself those same questions. Like you, I will never be a Bush fan, never thought we should go into or Iraq (or Libya now, for that matter), but I am fairly confident that yes, my partisanship made me blind to some of the good both George and Laura did. I did not know how much Laura had done on behalf of Aghan women until after she wrote her book.

    I am dvr’ing Greta.

  • honestlawyermostly

    EllenD, Rev. Amy and all– thanks for your good wishes.  Actually, it was a slow leak in the water pipes which ran for some time beneath our long-leaf pine floors without us knowing about it.  All have to be ripped out, new flooring laid, repainting, etc., etc. 

    With all of the suffering going on around the world, especially in Japan, we feel most fortunate.  Thanks again.

  • Angelasmith

    Always hard to read Amy, must be harder to write. Thank you for doing this. And for pointing out it happens here as well. One ugly monster- with many different heads.

  • Retired

    OK, RRRA, I just gotta retell the coolest story regarding the Saudi Regilious Police ever!  It seems that while Iraq was still a war and our Air Force was operating out of Saudi Arabia, a female US airman took off her BDU shirt while working on the flight line in the 100 plus degree weather, continuing to work in just an olive green Tshirt.  A Saudi religious policeman, offended by her distinctly Sharia noncompliant immodesty of dress, came up to her and started beating her with one of the yard long sticks with which they traditionally discipline errant Saudi women.

    After absorbing a few feeble blows out of American politeness, the female airman decked the hapless Saudi Sharia enforcer with a couple of well-placed punches and proceeded to deliver a series of what the British call “groinal smashes” with her steel toed flightline safety boots.  Other airmen of the female persusastion joined in, just to make sure that the guy realized that while Sharia might apply to Saudi women, their American counterparts weren’t about to take any shit in the middle of the important job of loading 750 pounders on strike aircraft about to depart for a steel FedEx mission against other Sharia enforcers.

    When asked why the male airmen present didn’t join in to defend their femail collegues, they replied, “They didn’t seem to need our help in this case.”

    By the way, the airmen were never prosecuted for acting in self defense.  No report on the balls of the Saudi policeman.

  • EllenD

    Yeah. Older homes are a bitch. Good luck on the repairs.

  • oowawa

    I like this scenario much better than watching the President bowing to the Saudi King.

  • SSDD

    Honestlawyermostly, while certain sects of the Christian faith, do treat women like second class citizens, they aren’t dragging them out in the town square and stoning them to death or murdering them for dishonoring the family.  That kind of thing would not be tolerated here.  We also don’t tolerate child molesters and they are prosecuted and sent to prison where the other prisoners often exact their own judgment upon them. 

    Little or nothing happens to men that rape their wives or any other female in these ME countries.  Young girls are promised off in marriage and raped.  Islam teaches them that they have a right to sex on demand and the woman has no right to say no.  Rape is a serious crime in this country.  Men that abuse their wives or girlfriends are put in jail.  At least women here have a chance to have their abusers punished.  Abuse is just a way of life for women who live in ME cultures.  I don’t think you can compare it to what women deal with in the U.S. in any way.

  • SSDD

    Honestlawyermostly, while certain sects of the Christian faith, do treat women like second class citizens, they aren’t dragging them out in the town square and stoning them to death for dishonoring the family or for having suffered the crime of rape.  That kind of thing would not be tolerated here.  We also don’t tolerate child molesters and they are prosecuted and sent to prison where the other prisoners often exact their own judgment upon them.   
     
    Little or nothing happens to men that rape their wives or any other female in these ME countries.  Young girls are promised off in marriage and raped.  Islam teaches them that they have a right to sex on demand and the woman has no right to say no.  Rape is a serious crime in this country.  Men that abuse their wives or girlfriends are put in jail.  At least women here have a chance to have their abusers punished.  Abuse is just a way of life for women who live in ME cultures.  I don’t think you can compare it to what women deal with in the U.S. in any way.

  • yttik

    Great post, Rev Amy.

    You know, how things play out is really weird. LOL, there’s a method to this madness, a process happening. I wasn’t a Bush fan, but looking back, his invasion of Irag and Afganistan have triggered a movement all over the ME. Bush actually addressed women’s rights many times and Laura has worked for years on helping women in the ME. Back during the start of the war, Bush even had his “W is for Women” campaign. So that was the first thing that  triggered all this current instability in the ME, Bush’s actions, some good, some bad. But the second thing that has been empowering women around the world has been our female SOS. Simply having a woman representing the United States, presenting our face to the rest of the world is pretty significant. Hillary is the latest and her work for women and girls all over the world is legendary. Women watch us, they look to the US, and when they see what is possible they find the courage to stand up too.

    I don’t know what is going to come of all this, but I find it really interesting how things play out, how the big picture starts to come together.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Anyone want to comment on the regs about the wearing of uniforms and the use of an article of clothing that is not “approved”?

    Can a female soldier be brought up and charges for refusing an “encourgement” to wear this crap? Is there a glass ceiling?

    and what has been the blow back if a female soldier doesn’t?
    It strikes me it’s the uniform not the person so if I am a a female so freaking what?

    As civilian in a foriegn land I get it. I might not like it, but culturals have differences. As a service member, screw that.

    Make no mistake, the ones makin the rules are Muslim men…anyone ever see a woman Imam?     Thought not.

    And anyone who says Islam is a peaceful enterprise is full of it. The violence imparted is not only physical but spirtually. Islam is evil this way.

    Sorry Rev. Amy, when does stop? What has to happen to evolve as a huminoid past the brutalization of half of the spieces? Crazy shit.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Anyone want to comment on the regs about the wearing of uniforms and the use of an article of clothing that is not “approved”?

    Can a female soldier be brought up and charges for refusing an “encourgement” to wear this crap? Is there a glass ceiling? Are male soldiers going to wear a jockstrap on the outside too?

    and what has been the blow back if a female soldier doesn’t?
    It strikes me that “it’s the uniform stupid” not the person, so if I am a female so freaking what!?

    As civilian in a foriegn land I get it. I might not like it, but culturals have differences. As a service member, screw that.

    Make no mistake, the ones making the rules are Muslim men…Anyone ever see a woman Imam?     … Thought not.

    And anyone who says Islam is a peaceful enterprise is full of it. The violence imparted is not only physical but spirtual. Islam is evil.

    Sorry Rev. Amy, when does it stop? What has to happen to evolve as a huminoid, past the brutalization of half of the spieces? Crazy shit. make me nuts.

    Thanks for the insanity.

  • TeakWoodKite

    There is hope, retired. Thanks for the ray of sunshine and the inspiring story.

  • DM

    “You know it is bad when you rank BELOW Iran and Pakistan on the treatment of women. Seriously. How bad must you be to be WORSE than Iran and Pakistan??”

    RR, that’s right.  Saudi Arabia is much worse than Iran and Pakistan. There are many more countries that are worse than Iran and Pakistan.  Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan are much worse.  I met Iranian women in India, and I can say without any reservation that women in Iran are not as oppressed as Saudi Arabia.  Not even close.  I think you’ve been reading a little too much negative propaganda about Iran.  I’m not saying that Iran doesn’t have problems, but those problems don’t compare with Saudi Arabia.

  • helenk

    screw that. It is an honor to wear the military uniform of the United States. Women earned that right. Look at the history of the WASPs and how long it took for them to get reconignition.
    If some backward ass in a country that after almost 10 years can not or will not defend on their own wants to stay in the 4th century, that is his  problem.
    I can not believe that any US officer would want to belittle the uniform in that way.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • BINKY

    Every time I see President Bush on television now, I like him.  But, while he was President, I couldn’t stand him.  I would turn the tv off if he came on.  I don’t think it was partisanship, however.  I think it was the msm brainwashing us, sculpting our opinion of President Bush.  We weren’t told the good things he did.  President Bush is human and as such is imperfect.  The msm made sure we knew about the not-so-good and all the occasional gaffes he made–and it was 24-7. They demonized him; and how could we know any different?  Back then I didn’t know to look elsewhere for my news.  

    Since he left office, I’ve come to hold him in greater respect.  In the book, IN THE PRESIDENT’S SECRET SERVICE, his Secret Service cadre spoke highly of him and Laura;  I’ve seen videos of him and his interaction with our service men and women–a complete 180 degree from the reaction they have to the current President; and I’ve seen that even though he has gone from the office, President and Laura Bush still show much love for the troops.

    I’m so glad I watched Greta tonight–a rarity for me.  The US-Afghan Women’s Council is still very active and Laura and the President are still involved through the Bush Institute.  I’m so pleased and proud to know this.

    I was against the Iraq War, still am, and I’m afraid history will judge it to have caused more harm than good (though I pray not).   

    Tonight I’m thanking God that I was born in this country.  Women in America have much to be grateful for. 

  • Jmm915

    Nah, I’m pretty sure it’s because our non-partisan media never reported any of this. Shocking, isn’t it, since they always report on
    Carter’s work with Habitat for Humanity.

  • Docelder

    The media drove the anti-Bush propaganda into a frenzy. Now the media is driving the pro-Obama propaganda into idiocy. I don’t even watch the network news in this country anymore. I don’t need media corporations telling me how to think. They are so much not reporting actual news now… its about shaping opinions. The media part has pushed the news part completely away.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    That’s just it – what will be the comeuppance for a female soldier if she doesn’t submit to this “encouragement”? It is disturbing on so many levels, and it seemed some of the women were pushing back against it.

    But that this has even been “suggested” is telling indeed.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, dear, Honestlawyer. I appreciate that comparatively speaking, it is not the end of the world, but still, it is disruptive to you and Cindy. That kind of removation is not easy or fun, for sure. But I hear you. Good luck with this!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Wow, excellent comment. Thank you. And yes, I did the same thing (now I do with Obama, too – cannot stand to listen to him talk, but I think it is because I am better informed now than I was then).

    For me, it was partisanship, but also how the media portrayed him. He also did a lot in secret that eventually leaked out, like going to visit our troops in Walter Reed. So yes, I like him better now that he is out of office, too, and I think you are correct in your assessment.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    WOW, great story, Retired! Thanks for sharing that – it does give a glimmer of hope, doesn’t it? :)

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    DM, thanks for the comment. It is likely that there have been more negative reports on Iran than some other countries in terms of women, but I think the video above speaks volumes, don’t you? But I do get your point, and thanks for that.

  • Agent X

    ““Considered to be the property of men.” Uh, yeah. Not allowed to leave the house. Infant girls killed. Slave girls trapped from other countries and sold every day. Education morally corrupts girls, thus they should not have it.”

    Just terrible! And we do what about cruelty like this? Shit! So Samantha Powers, (will the real “monster” please stand up?) you want to be an interventionist? So intervene!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks, Angela. I have to admit, I was not taking writer’s liberty with the moment to compose myself – I really did need it after watching those videos. I cannot even think abt them without getting teary, to be honest. To see how those women are treated is almost beyond imagination, yet this is their reality. Hard to even conceive of it…

  • propertius

    Perhaps our criticisms of the status of women would be taken more seriously in the Muslim world had we ever chosen a woman to head our government, as Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia, Kyrgyzstan and Bangladesh (all predominately Muslim countries) have at one time or another.

  • ProudMilitaryMom

    Somebody posted a link to this at Uppity’s- so I went looking.
    ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE in the uniform code does it allow for this garbage. The only approved use of a scarf is with a coat- black.
    Yes- soldiers can be brought up on charges for being “out of uniform.”
    I posted some links to the Army regs for uniform wear. Including the approved headgear.
    Scarfs are NOT headgear.
    The uniform is worn with pride.
    Whoever came up with this bs needs to be courtmartialed. NOW!
    My daughter in law is going TDY to Afghanistan for 13 months- she is taking her combat skills refresher course right now. She wiil be wearing the standard uniform – with Kevlar helmet.
    This crap makes me so angry!

  • Linda Anselmi

    Thank you Amy! This all is so heartbreaking and yet so incredibly inspiring that so many brave women are willing to stand up and push back in the face of such treatment.  As you said:

    And so, for those women in Saudi Arabia, may the ripples continue to widen. May they change the way women are treated, at home and abroad, may the treatment of women matter as much as the oil beneath the sands, and may women be treated as fully human around the globe. That is my prayer…

    All I can say is, amen!