Obama: “Send Some Price Signals To Change Behavior”

One quick note. Obama drives a Ford Escape Hybrid.
Bfore that he had a Chrysler 300C. A sedan.

Amen Uppity.
I have a new name for him. The Prince of Thieves, especially with stealing from those who work hard and have to give to the poor. I have no problem paying taxes and helping those who need it ,but I don’t want the government telling me who we need to give it to, especially Barry’s cronies.
I just hope this nightmare is over on November 5th and this clown can go back to Chicago with his tail between his legs.

I just don’t understand how, with a campaign that has gone on for almost two years and that has involved hundreds of millions of dollars, the United States will probably end up with a president that is even worse and more dangerous than Bush. It’s true that Obama’s “image” is everywhere, but it seems as though the majority of Americans have been brainwashed by this personality cult (a successful marketing campaign of this fraudulent “political product”).

^^Troll. You’re on every thread-here morning, noon and night. Obama suporter TROLL. NOBODY here-but other trolls are buying your bs.

yeah: and he flies to HI for a two day scam (uhh, sorry visit to his gravely ill grandma)on a PRIVATE jet – HELLO!!!!

and he lives in an un-insulated mansion – just what every 4 person family needs!

his environmental sensitivity ranks right up there with his sexist sensitivity…

we have many very green friends who are voting for nader or McKinney because of this crap

what was the carbon footprint of the greek temple set?

it might seem that way, but there is absolutely no way to know if he has succeeded yet… so don’t be drinking that koolaid.

Maybe before he inacts all this he can send a quart of heating oil to Auntie Zeituni shivering in her Boston tenement? Maybe a crust of dry bread? Barry, are you listening?

Let’s not forget about the European vacataion this summer.

I just don’t see how a campaign that has gone on for 2 years, or 3-4 if you count Zero’s plans from the start, has spent billions of dollars has failed to close the deal. He’s not real good with efficiency of time management or fiscal policy. What a waste of money.

And every crustacean that Beast Michelle swallows whole equals the carbon footprint of 25 Chinese coal miners (one must take into account the output of the lobster-fishing industry and transportation from rural areas like Maine to five-star Hotels in urban areas around the globe).

Before he was elected to the senate he drove a big black SUV. I know, I lived near him and he drove himself before he became “the one.”

New Released Audio of Obamas Kenyan grandmother: http://www.americasright.com/

Obama should punish people who smoke cigarettes for overburdening the health care system.

Oh, wait -

while everyone ‘screamed’ in faux outrage about the RNC buying $150,000 for Sarah Palin’s new clothes. Obama reportedly spent $700,000 on the light show extravaganza in Berlin.

Uppity or anyone else,
I like the tone of this post, however can anyone direct me to more information about these light bulbs etc because I changed all mine under the belief that I was doing the right thing. What’s this all about?

Thanks

My son and daughter-in-law are hoarding incandescent lightbulbs because of the mercury laden ‘new light bulbs’. Their son, my grandson, is autistic and the possibility of toxic mercury is something they don’t need because Josh has trouble eliminating toxins from his system, even those that occur in everyday life such as arsenic in tap water (they have a water filtration systen to filter it out).
The thought of these new bulbs is terrifying for them.

it must be Democrat payback to GE for making MSNBO the chief campaign network for Obama.

“SHOCK Audio Unearthed: OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Barack Obama, at 57 second mark: “If someone wants to build a coal power plant, they can, it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re gonna be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”

Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and other coal-producing states might be interested in hearing about this. You know what to do, and we don’t have much time!

i loves me a good rethug meltdown….

And the Virgin Islands vacation in March/April as well as HI vacation in August.

I know 0bama’s gunning for 401k’s

I would assume he’s gunning for IRAs. Should I take it out now and pay penalites/taxes?

What are some options to keep our post-tax money from that thief?
I already paid taxes on my savings, I want them safe and I know he will devalue the dollar…crank up those printing presses

WILL THERE BE ANY ADVICE TO KEEPING OUR MONEY SECURE FROM THIS CROOK NOBAMA?

Regular people in NEMO running ads in free papers against Oblabla. Mo right to life ran a 3/4 page ad against him. Farm operation ran at least 4 ads against him. I have been running a small ad in 3 papers every week for the past month. I think real people see what he is like and will not vote for him. I have been trying to change the mind of our small town newspaper editor with no luck yet.

And what about those centrist democrats?

Are you so blinded by Bush hate that you cannot see that Nobama is a trillion fold WORSE?

If 0bama’s elected, the Bush era will be an a fond remembrance!!

Talking about driving prices up:

Article

“SHOCK Audio Unearthed OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY”

“Obama/Joe Biden “No Coal Plants Here in America”

aided and abetted by an adoring MSM with an agenda…. that is the ONLY reason he still has a chance.

http://AmericasFavoriteTerrorist.com

oh dear…

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

My God this guy is dangerous.

He wants to fuck with the power plants? Our Grid is alerady on the verge of breakdown

The U.S. Faces Serious Risks of Brownouts or Blackouts in 2009, Study Warns

Enviro Group Lawsuits, Cost Concerns, Climate Regulation Uncertainty Cited As Major Obstacles To Grid Improvements

Denver, CO (Oct. 1, 2008) — A new study released this week highlights what experts have been saying for years: the U.S. faces significant risk of power brownouts and blackouts as early as next summer that may cost tens of billions of dollars and threaten lives.

The study, “Lights Out In 2009?” warns that the U.S. “faces potentially crippling electricity brownouts and blackouts beginning in the summer of 2009, which may cost tens of billions of dollars and threaten lives.”

“If particularly vulnerable regions, like the Western U.S., experience unusually hot temperatures for prolonged periods of time in 2009, the potential for local brownouts or blackouts is high, with significant risk that local disruptions could cascade into regional outages that could cost the economy tens of billions of dollars,” the report warned.

U.S. baseload generation capacity reserve margins “have declined precipitously to 17 percent in 2007, from 30-40 percent in the early 1990s,” according to the study. A 12-15 percent capacity reserve margin is the minimum required to ensure reliability and stability of the nation’s electricity system. Compounding this capacity deficiency, the projected U.S. demand in the next ten years is forecast to grow by 18 percent, far exceeding the projected eight percent growth in baseload generation capacity between now and 2016.

The study, which can be downloaded here, estimated that the U.S. will require about 120 gigawatts (GW) of new generation just to maintain a 15 percent reserve margin. That will require at least $300 billion in generation and transmission facility investments by 2016.

Read the rest here

Additionally he mentioned greenhouse gasses. Consider me one of those flat-earth “deniers”

It’s disputed that CO2 increases are the cause of climate change for two reasons:
– On Earth at the levels that CO2 are at, there’s a question on the basic premise that it has any real effect at all
– Several studies have concluded that CO2 Increases in the air have been the RESULT of Air Temp Increases not the cause because their data shows the CO2 increases coming after the onset of warming period.

Also, the most influential molecule in regards to retaining the sun’s heat in the air, is water vapor. That’s right.. the clouds.

And I’d like to point to something else that is in the sky, and that is that big yellow thing that can hurt your eyes if you look at it.

There hasn’t been warming for over ten years now.

This year was to witness the start of Solar Sunpot Cycle 24

Read the following headlines (and laugh)

December 21, 2006 – Scientists Predict Big Solar Cycle
Solar cycle 24, due to peak in 2010 or 2011 “looks like its going to be one of the most intense cycles since record-keeping began almost 400 years ago,” says solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center.

April 25, 2007 – NEXT SOLAR STORM CYCLE WILL START LATE
The next 11-year cycle of solar storms will most likely start next March and peak in late 2011 or mid-2012 – up to a year later than expected – according to a forecast issued today by NOAA’s Space Environment Center in coordination with an international panel of solar experts.

December 14, 2007 – Is a New Solar Cycle Beginning?
The solar physics community is abuzz this week. No, there haven’t been any great eruptions or solar storms. The source of the excitement is a modest knot of magnetism that popped over the sun’s eastern limb on Dec. 11th.

January 4, 2008 – NOAA confirms start of new sunspot cycle
A new solar cycle is under way. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Friday that the first sunspot of a new 11-year cycle has appeared in the sun’s northern hemisphere.

March 28, 2008 – Old Solar Cycle Returns
Barely three months after forecasters announced the beginning of new Solar Cycle 24, old Solar Cycle 23 has returned.

May 19, 2008 – Sunspot cycle more dud than radiation flood
Many solar scientists expected the new sunspot cycle to be a whopper, a prolonged solar tantrum that could fry satellites and raise hell with earthly communications, the power grid and modern electronics. But there’s scant proof Sunspot Cycle 24 is even here, let alone the debut of big trouble.

Aug 29, 2008 – Still No Sunspot Action on the Sun
“I am surprised that if it’s going to be big solar cycle 24, it’s taking this long for sunspots to get started.”

Sept 30, 2008 – Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age
“Sunspot counts are at a 50-year low,” says solar physicist David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. “We’re experiencing a deep minimum of the solar cycle.”

The last time this happened was the late 1700s and was regarded as a mini-ice age.

Consider that as you witness record cold temps around the world.

And then also there is this story

Boston (MA) – Scientists at MIT have recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels. This is the first increase in ten years, and what baffles science is that this data contradicts theories stating man is the primary source of increase for this greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere. However, since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, it is now believed this may be part of a natural cycle in mother nature – and not the direct result of man’s contributions.

This Man-Made CO2 Global Warming crap is NONSENSE.

And we’re supposed to dramatically change our way of life soley because of that?

NO

It’s a smokescreen for Enviromarxists to try any way possible to impoverish everyone.

Evening Newscast: January 22, 2009

Scary.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=3705

PK, agreed. IT is truly scary that none of this was broadcast to Americans before this election re Obama.

I’ve stayed up on the revelations about OBama almost as well as you all have. I can tell you this, noone in the general public knows about:

1. Obama’s New Party Membership
2. The results of Obama’s public financing of private developers to create low iincome housing in Chicago
3. Obama’s rejection of democratic centrism (the DLC) in 2003 at the request of Black Commentator, a socialist online magazine.
4. Obama’s ties to Reverend Meeks, another racist.
5. Obama’s carrying of Wright tapes to Harvard to “steel” himself against white influence.
6. Al-Mansour’s sponsorship of Obama starting in the LATE 1980′s (see Percy Sutton)
7. Obama banging Vera Baker in 2004 at his hotel (the driver admitted dropping them off there late at night)
8. Obama’s trip to Pakistan under an Indonesian passport.
9. Obama’s Kenyan citizenship – making Obama the one and only possible President who was a dual citizen since the American revolution.
10. Obama’s extreme collectivist and anti-American, anti-exceptionalist views like this video, the 2001 tapes, etc…….

That’s just ten…the media will turn on Obama and much of this will be front and center for budding Woodward and Bernsteins, and eveyone will say “If only i had known i wouldnt have voted for him…blah blah blah”

God Save America……….

Mr. Zero will be on the receiving end of some “signals” quite soon. In less than 72 hours his game will be over. His campaign of “smoke and mirrors,” dog whistles, and arrogance almost worked. But almost, it is said, only counts in horseshoes.

After Tuesday, he should just pack his things and head on to Jonestown with all his friends and acolytes at CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, et al, and have one last party.

That guy’s gestures are creepy. Seriously: after a while you start to fall into a trance. They’re deliberate. He points a lot at himself. ‘Me me me.’ I read that Eriksonian hypnosis stuff and I thought it was all tinfoil/Roswell hysteria. But I think maybe it’s not.

Back on topic: I don’t think we have to worry about any energy crisis, at least in the north, with Obama spewing out so much hot air all the time. And the energy that could be generated from his bullshit is significant.

i loves me a good rethug meltdown….

Actually, what you’re witnessing is the awakening of the sleeping giant.

Yipeee!!!

We are cooling, folks; for how long, even kim doesn’t know.
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What Jamie is saying is no different than what Lenin said in the time leading to the overthrow of the Czar (or the Provisional Gov,, i don’t know the exact date).

The worse the better.

Yep, check out my comment I made at 08:10:58

Every time our stupid politicians talk about Global Warming, Cap and Trade, Carbon, etc.. i want to punch them in the face. McCain included.

yes, make sure he isn’t elected.

I voted for M/P, influenced hopefully many to do the same.
No thanks to the media it’s been damn difficult!

Uh…

5. Obama’s carrying of Wright tapes to Harvard to “steel” himself against white influence.

I gotta have a link to this!

7. Obama banging Vera Baker in 2004 at his hotel (the driver admitted dropping them off there late at night)

This too!

8. Obama’s trip to Pakistan under an Indonesian passport.

OK, you’re going to have to provide references.

It is a sad statement that even now, two days before an election, we are still finding things out about Obama that should have disqualified him from even getting past Edwards, let alone Hillary.

Defeat this Marxist Messiah.

I am counting on your Dems and PUMA to ABORT this failed ABORTION of a candidate.

You are a loon.

MIT:
The question is no longer whether global warming is upon us … but how we can rise to its challenge.
globalchange.mit.edu/

Mexico and Canada are the ones that are going to need to build the borders if Barack gets elected Tuesday…

Not me…I fall into that 50% of the pop. immune to hypnosis.
Yes, we can…
avoid this mind-fucker

My doggy barks at him on TV!

So will America divide into left and right sides of the IQ BELL CURVE?
There is NO WAY 0bama will ever get a cross-eyed nimwit ACORN army to control us.
Did you see that alpha-omega paramilitary group? OMG what a pack of losers!
He thinks we’re going to PAY for his WORLDWIDE socialism?

Sleeping giant, tickle tickle, shout and scream AWAKEN NOW!

If I’m a loon, please tell me what the net avg temp change has been the past ten years. If you disagree with that metric, then please use whatever temperature benchmark you like and tell me what the past 10 years have brought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aBNduAyQ4

Excellent video!

Right now in Vegas the over under on impeachment is 22 months…

FYI..For the most comprehensive,well presented website on BHO go to: http://theobamafile.com It is broken down into eighteen categories plus latest news.-Education-Religion- Politics- Employment- State Senate-US Senate-The Wife-Campaign-Supporters-
Advisers-Islam-Africa-Race-Lies-Quotes-Osama-Videos-
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Lets see an anonymous commenter with clipped quotes that say exactly the opposite of what the original articles say or MIT… Hmmm… I’ll have to go with MIT.

an ESCALADE and his entourage uses them too

Ok, so in other words you can’t provide the simple information.

Gee, I wonder why that is. Normally if someone has the facts on their side, they gladly provide them to bolster their claims.

which would only mean Imbiben

aargh

Vote McCain/Palin!

What are the vegas odds on Ayer’s (aka the evil man behind the curtain) choking on some Revolutionary Ravioli? Or Dohrn on some Cop-Killer Caramel?

What good is a hybrid if ethanol can’t be purchased? In Florida, there are FOUR stations where ethanol is available-military bases and universities.

Number 5:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
(NYT itself even said Obama “fortified” himself with Wright tapes in law school, you’re not knowing about this is evidence of the media bias i was referencing)

Number 7
As for Vera Baker, the facts are in plain sight, but again, unreported.
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/276853.php
The facts are about 100 times more conclusive than the facts on McCain’s sex scandal, yet, unreported.

Number 8
Read this blog on the Indonesia thing. Larry Johnson did an excellent job of outlining the issue.

Hilarious. Unsourced clipped and cropped quotes that when tracked back to the original article prove to be 100% bogus.

And my claims? No, there is a link to MIT. That would be the MIT link that debunks your baseless claims.

Ok. I’m not going to presume you chickened out… maybe you went to have breakfast.

There are a few things I wanted to say but I was waiting for you to give the temperature data. However, since the tempts have declined , I doubt that you’re going to. No matter what temp data you use, the temp will be lower now. And I knew this of course, which is why I asked you.

To you other folks reading this.. don’t you recognize the pattern here? It’s just like the Obama campaign.

- I’m told “the debate is over”… Hillary should drop out of the primary… McCain cannot win the election

- I’m characterized in a way that is supposed to shut me up. I’m a loon. Hillary is a racist. McCain is erratic and Palin is a religious fundamentalist Creationist Converter-of-gays-to-straight Abstinence only Crusader.

- Facts are irrelevant to the question

- Authority resides with experts only and only those experts in the Academy. I don’t know about anyone else, but I give ZERO credibility to anything that comes from the unreal world of a university unless it’s really compelling.

Global Warming is a jackpot for Govt and Industry Grant Money. If you want to get some free money , link your issue with Global Warming.

And also, anything that NGOs and the fools in EUtopia are the leaders about has to be fundamentally retarded.. and so it is with this.

Global Warming is a fraud. One of the most dangerous and pervasive of our time.

As so many of your eyes have been opened to the deceitfulness of the Obama campaign and his friends on the Far Left, please also recognize that with Global Warming.

Ethanol is not even that clean of fuel when you consider the pollution and waste that creating it entails. I lived in Iowa for 8 years until two months ago and we had ethanol plants nearby. The amount of water required to produce ethanol from corn is outrageous, as well as the amount of coal-burning fuel. The only reason we make corn-based ethanol is because of the subsidies and lobbyists (who supported Obama). And, oil companies will “splash and dash” — i.e., they come to the U.S., add a minimum content of ethanol to their gasoline, and then are able to collect subsidies for the ENTIRE amount of oil in their barges. then, they leave our country and sell it in a foreign country where they collect yet another subsidy for the ethanol-laced oil. People complain about oil company profits but nobody is talking about splash and dash.

Thanks. But comments. Sorry.

Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons

OK. But taken in the context of the entire article I don’t think that’s going to scare anyone.

Vera Baker: it’s still too far out there. It’s not important what you or I think but what mainstream voters think. Also: I don’t give a hoot about anyone’s sex or personal life. That’s their business. They can fuck cacti for all I care. That only reflects on us.

Number 8
Read this blog on the Indonesia thing.

Which blog? No link is given. Unless you mean ‘search NQ’. But you were the one who made a claim. And if you want people to believe you or listen to you then you need to provide references.

But I really want to thank you for taking the time. I think we have to expose Obama; we however cannot do that by making claims others cannot follow up themselves. And we ideally need two accepted and independent sources on each and every claim. Otherwise we’re no better than the Kool-Aid drinkers.

Thanks and God Bless.

Or maybe you got nothing and I only have so much time to waste.

Well you refuted nothing I said.

I dont need to see the MIT website , I know what the basic claims about Global Warming are (who doesnt?) Unless you can show how anything I said is false, then I will continue to be justified in my conclusion that there is no CO2 Manmade Global Warming.

Are you an Obama or Clinton supporter? I’m curious.

And don’t forget the moral element- people are starving around the world for lack of food and going hungry in this country because of high food prices. And our goverment is paying for taking food FOOD! off the table and into gas tanks. What is wrong with this picture????

I guess the trolls are worried. They’re stepping it up.

Don’t worry troll. Your job in the sweat shop is almost over. Mccain-Palin will save you soon.

Let’s increase alcohol taxes too. Maybe that will slow Biden’s consumption down!

From your orignal post:
However, since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, it is now believed this may be part of a natural cycle in mother nature – and not the direct result of man’s contributions.

That’s BS. But please don’t take my word for it. Go to the MIT link and read what they actually say. The post gets worse from there.

And you first: Are an obama supporter or an obama supporter?

Regarding a large carbon footprint and the Obammunist, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Somehow I don’t think that’s going to go down too well with folks in western and central Pennsylvania. I took a trip from Baltimore to Erie a couple of months ago and saw several large billboards along the way presenting the fact that the coal industry is essential for the economic health of the region.

O.k., so that’s two times he’s said something different in San Francisco than he did in Scranton (to paraphrase the ‘Cuda). Is there a third out there somewhere?

Senator McCain’s recent events have been very enthusiastic, and the crowds are excited!
I am hopeful that he can bring it home to people that the risk posed by BO is real!
I have touched base with my family members to insure they get to the polls.
We are spread thin though, throughout four states, but we are going to fight on!

Let’s see–how much razzle dazzle at that spectacular $700,000 light show could he buy with his poor Auntie’s $250? I’m sure she sacrificed quite a few of life’s simple necessities for her great nephew’s glorification.

It’s not about time.. it should be simple to show the temp is warmer now than ten years ago.. if it was really happening.

Besides, it’s been over 30 min that we been going back and forth.

It’s about you being full of shit and lazy. “They” say there’s Global Warming.. so you say there is.

You have no idea. You wont even look at the temperature.

And yet you think you know enough to call me a loon.

The brainwashing going in this country is disturbing. I face this all the time hen I talk to some people about the dangers of Islamism and Jihad and the unique dogma of Islam that makes it violent.

People who have no clue about Islam, Christianity, the Koran, and the Bible will counter-attack. say I’m racist , full of hate , etc. etc.. say that Christianity is no different than Islam, that the Bible tells people to kill too.. etc.

They’re wrong factually, they spent no time researching the issue, but yet feel compelled to call me a racist (or in this case a loon)..

And strangely enough it seems to me that the most strident defenders of this kind of belligerent ignorance are college education.

Deniers of Jihad, Global Warming scaremongers and Obamabots all seem to have the same patterns.

Only think the poor don’t get the help. This year I learned that the Democrat scam of taxing us to help the poor is just that, A SCAM.

A heart breaking scam. They use their control of those huge amounts of tax payer money to gain political power, enrich themselves, their friends and family.

So when you hear a politician say “tax the middle class to help the poor” always remember that he means “tax the middle class so that I can fondle your money and then send it to the poor via my friends (Tony Rezko), family and cohorts (Revs Wright and Phlem)”. And if ten cents on the dollar gets past them to help the poor it will be a miracle. But the Revs Wright and Phlem will preach “hate whitey, he is keeping you living in slums”

“SHOCK Audio Unearthed: OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Barack Obama, at 57 second mark: “If someone wants to build a coal power plant, they can, it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re gonna be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”

PA, WV, and others might be interested!

Would someone please address Barack Obama’s repeated assertion that the US shouldn’t be spending $10 Billion a month on Iraq when Iraq has a surplus of $70+ Billion?

Obama Says:

We’re spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, at a time when the Iraqis have a $79 billion surplus.

Does Barack really think that $79 Billion will rebuild an entire nation’s infrastructure and it’s national security?

Everyone wants to end the war. Everyone wants to stop spending US money on Iraq, none more than the military, which is stressed to the max, and will have to be rebuild itself.

But it seems dangerous to risk Iraq’s stability by stretching their financial security when other states around Iraq or in the region are volatile. Pakistan. Afghanistan. Iran. Russia/Georgia.

And, speaking of Afghanistan. Doesn’t Obama say we should concentrate our focus there? Does he think Afghanistan is going to pay for it? Or will the US be contributing to that effort monetarily?

Does Obama think $10 Bil a month is too much for just Iraq? Or does he think we should spend $10 Bil a month in Afghanistan instead? Or does he think that $10 Bil a month is just too much to spend anywhere, except in the US?

Obama’s argument is problematic for me. Obama is actually advocating doing what we did 25 years ago in Afghanistan. How’s that abandonment working out for us these days? How’d that work out on September 11, 2001?

Democrats are applauding Obama’s demogoguery with passionate fervor. Yeah, that $10 Bil a month should go to US instead. But, are they thinking about what he is saying?

Obama has repeatedly asserted that abandoning Afghanistan was a mistake, no?!

Yet, Democrats are cheering the idea of leaving Iraq in the same situation that the US left Afghanistan in when we deserted them 25 years ago–which has turned out to be a very costly mistake for us, with horrific consequences to this nation.

Actions have consequences. Obama must think Democrats are stupid to demogogue this issue; either that, or he’s calculating he can flip on the argument once he’s won the election. Will Democrats who voted for him notice?

I”m an independent conservative.

My Anti-Obamism compels me to vote for McCain..

If the Democrats had nominated someone who didn’t want to destroy the country I was going to sit this one out.

Hey now, before you lose your minds and go off into la-la land, remember lots of us like our SUV’s, cigarettes, and alcohol. And as long as I can afford them I will have them. Get your hands out of my pockets, government, and let me live my damn life the way I want to. Thank you very much.

obamabot John McCain:
Climate Change

John McCain will establish a market-based system to curb greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, mobilize innovative technologies, and strengthen the economy. He will work with our international partners to secure our energy future, to create opportunities for American industry, and to leave a better future for our children.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/da151a1c-733a-4dc1-9cd3-f9ca5caba1de.htm

Please stop.

The worse the better.

Never heard that before–what a great quote! With Bush in the White House, this mantra has been Obama’s best friend for the whole campaign; if, God forbid, he actually wins, the dictum will become OUR best friend until we get the phony out of office.

I understand what you’re trying to say when you say “the dictum will become OUR best friend until we get the phony out of office.” but please reconsider.

The “worse” that Lenin was happy about was so bad that it would contribute to the people going towards him for salvation.

Pray to God that that never happens here.

Never wish your country harm for the sake of better political prospects in the future.

stop what? You point out one of the reasons why I dont like McCain and I”m to stop?

You took the time to dig that up but still wont give the temp change over the decade.

Why do you knowingly allow yourself to be a propagandist?
Truth doesn’t matter?

Con Ed was run by Bill Ayers father in Chicago for many, many years and in was pals with Daley. Con Ed is now Exelon which is electricity, natural gas and nuclear power in Illinois. Exelon is also one of Obama’s largest and earliest backers. An increase in power bills would benefit them a lot. Controlling energy is controlling the country. Are they trying to usurp big oil?

Just because a conclusion sounds like common sense does not mean it has any basis in fact. Global warming is partially offset by a phenomenon called global dimming. That is, the upward push on temperature created when pollutants suspended in the earth’s upper atmosphere hold in the heat created by pollutants on earth; is countered by the effect of the reflection of the sun’s ultraviolet rays off of multi-faceted particles of pollution which, filled in with condensed water vapor, provide a greater mirror effect than ordinary ‘pollutants’ such as pollen or dust. In other words, the earth’s atmosphere would be even hotter due to human generated pollution except for the effect of these pollutants screening out the sun.

Like any aphorism, like “if at first you don’t succeed, try try again,” the expression has its point and its use, but will break down if you over-analyze it and stretch it. I would never wish my “country harm,” but I would wish harm to a corrupt political regime who would bring my country to ruin in order to aggrandize and consolidate the power of its leader.

Yeah, and the CF bulbs mess with your chakras, too. But you can protect yourself by wearing a tin-foil hat, at least that’s what the aliens who abducted me said.

And global warming is caused by superstitious morons blogging.

Don’t do sarcasm well?

Spinner rims? Double-Deuces?

No, but I would like YOU to keep your hands off my 401K account.

I fail to see why I should pay taxes so trolls can sit on their butts and post drivel.

You people claim the moral high ground, and yet here you are, being condescending.

Its you who is worried if you cant even take one person who disagrees with you. Obviously your beliefs are weak.

Vince,
You won the argument, hands down.
Your point is well reasoned and articulated.
This election process certainly begs that we all question what we have been ‘told’ by ‘them’.
The mask is off.

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach. ~ Adolph Hitler

Please quite being so condescending. I’m just sharing my opinion. Or do McCain supporters not like free speech either?
I happen to have a weekend in, thank you.

how about some poetry for you?

http://americasfavoriteterrorist.com/

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

You’re right. I didn’t mean to link (or give the appearance of a link) what you said, to the explanation I responded with. I worded my comment poorly.

I should have been clear in separating my explanation from my response to you.

I think we’re basically on the same page. The ultimate health and soundness of the country in the long run is what really matters.

not convinced-
Great…maybe you might get chance to read this EXCELLENT article written by Nader’s running mate- Matt Gonzalez…no matter who you vote for.

Matt Gonzalez was a strong Democrat until a few years ago when he saw what the Democratic party was really all about…

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/10/29/what-do-they-have-to-do/

an excerpt:

The Trail of Broken Promises

By MATT GONZALEZ

PATRIOT ACT & FISA AMENDMENT

Sen. Obama supported one of the worst attacks on civil liberties in recent history, the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, which extended an earlier law granting law enforcement expanded powers to search telephone, e-mail, and financial and medical records, in addition to granting the federal government a host of other powers to combat so-called domestic terrorism. After saying he would oppose it if elected to the U.S. Senate (NOW questionnaire, 9/10/03), in July 2005, Obama voted for it.

But this wasn’t enough. After entering the presidential race and running on a “change” message, Obama vowed in February of 2008 to vote against—and filibuster if necessary—the FISA bill amendment (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) that gave immunities to telecommunications corporations that cooperated with the Bush administration’s warrantless surveillance program. This eavesdropping program clearly violated the privacy of law-abiding Americans at the behest of the president, and made the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover seem tame by comparison. Those voting in favor of the bill didn’t even first require full disclosure to see how deep the illegal conduct extended and agreed to apply the law retroactively.

Despite his promises to the contrary, and despite the vehement protests of many of his supporters, when the FISA bill came to the Senate for a vote this past July, Sen. Obama voted for it without explaining how this vote fit in with his change message or reconciled with his repeated claims he was going to protect the American people from repeated assaults on civil liberties by President Bush. Here was his chance to lead and make good on his promise, and what did he do?

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called the FISA bill “an unconstitutional domestic spying bill that violates the Fourth Amendment and eliminates any meaningful role for judicial oversight of government surveillance” (ACLU press release, 7/9/08). Caroline Fredrickson, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office called the bill “a Constitutional nightmare” and noted “with one vote, Congress has strengthened the executive branch, weakened the judiciary and rendered itself irrelevant.”

Obama even voted to stop debate on the bill so he could get back to the campaign trail. How ironic is it that he was in a hurry to give more speeches about change and hope but couldn’t find the time or integrity to convert these ideas into action?

On the eve of the vote MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow noted “I’m betting that [Pres. Bush’s] wildest dreams did not include the prospect that Congress — a Democratic-led Congress — would help him cover up his crimes. Yet that is exactly what the US Senate is poised to do.” (Countdown with Keith Olbermann, 7/8/08).

No matter who you choose to vote for this Tuesday-read this article first.

If you still decide to vote for Sen Obama…I suggest you get a mirror and take a good long look at yourself & your true motives…

I call it Global Bullshit

As I said in my comment at 08:10:58 , there is no man-made global warming.

Don’t worry Fenelon Spoke. Come Wenesday morning, Trollie will be out of a job.

Thanks McHope.

The most condescending remark of all.

Your hero trots the globe in a private jet.

His wife chows down on champagne and caviar.

Obama is NOT a Working Class Hero.

T.R.O.L.L.

Squirrel Alert.

I thought Dohrn prefers Baby Burgers.

I could be wrong about that.

Hmm. Price fixing. Next step – wage fixing.

Two more steps down the road to Obascism.

Actually, there are a whole host of potential sources of ethanol in this country that lay untapped. The most plentiful that I can see is kudzu–a vine that is way too common in the South because it’s a botanical pest. (It was imported from Japan about a century ago as a decorative plant, like ivy. Unfortunately, in this country, it lacks the animals that readily feed on it.) It’s proved resistent to virtually all herbicides and only drought conditions seem to cause the stuff to brown (but let the first drop of rain hit it and it’s back to its lush green state).
Brazil has proved quite successful with its ethanol because it’s produced from sugar cane (and, currently, state officials in Alabama are looking to see if the state can produce enough sugar cane to make cane-based ethanol a reality here; ironically, as recently as 30 years ago, sugar cane could be found growing in the wild in the southern third of the state).
But, as it should be pointed out, ethanol (while there are shortcomings) is a much more dependable source than coal or oil, both of which are NOT able to produced in any type of short-term program. (Every bit of coal and oil that currently exists–whether being tapped or is untapped–or has ever been extracted is the product of long-dead flora and fauna. By long-dead, we’re talking in terms of MILLIONS of years gone. I’m not sure about you, but I don’t think I want to wait at a gas station THAT long to fill up my car.)

Its really quite sad how I get called a troll just because I disagree. My intention is not to cause an uproar, honest. I must say, I’ve tried to be very respectful (aside from a few jokes and sarcastic remarks here and there), which is much more than has been accorded to me.

We’re merely acting like Obama. If The One can condescend without offending his people, then why can’t we?

Global warming will happen even if we were to suspend all of our industries right now and stop all emissions. The planet warms and cools in cycles and to think that we, mere specks of dust on this ginormous rock, can stop it – hilarious! Who do we think we are?

The best we can do is to adapt to cope with climate change. This requires wealth. When sea levels rise and temperature changes, the poorest will be the worst hit. Those who live on coastlines and who can’t afford to move, etc.

Therefore the key to coping with climate change is economic growth. Those countries that are too poor to cope with climate change need free trade and capitalism in order to create the wealth they’ll need to deal with it. This is why the green’s whole “anti-industry” crusade will do more to hurt humans than anything else. Industry is our lifeblood, the key to our survival.

If we cripple our industries and economies to halt emissions, we will slow global warming only a tiny amount. Is it worth it? Best focus our efforts on coping with a change that is inevitable.

Look. We disagree on that. I dont believe that Obama is condescending. You do.

But I’m sure we can both agree that being condescending is bad. So please, dont be condescening to me, and I wont be to you.

Section 8 housing vouchers, Medicaid, food stamps, TANF, public housing, free bus passes, universal free K-12 education – and this is just what taxpayers provide, nevermind all of the private charity.

This country does an enormous amount to help poor people, but we are constantly being told that we are ‘selfish’ if we don’t do more. If trillions of dollars spent over decades has not changed the plight of the poor, and indeed a permanent underclass has been created, I think more than money may be needed.

Exelon does not want clean coal technology.

So every dollar of Obama’s “tax cut” or welfare check will go to coping with higher prices. He sounds like a “watermelon environmentalist” to me – green on the outside, red on the inside. For these guys saving the planet is just a cover for shutting down industry. YES let’s use less plastic and packaging. NO, let’s not shut down the entire energy industry and leave single moms shivering in the dark.

A Landslide For McCain???
Name: Writegirl
Date Posted: Nov 2, 08 – 12:13 PM
State your in Oregon
Message: Hi everyone,

I found a bit of interesting information today that I want to pass on to you.

PROPAGANDA media and their companion SKEWED POLLS will attempt to discourage McCain/Palin supporters so much that these voters MIGHT stay home.

Well, don’t believe those lies!!!! And don’t stay home! Get out there and vote!

I found a different kind of poll in 3 different places today, a poll that indicates a MCCAIN LANDSLIDE. Yes, you read it correctly. A McCain/Palin LANDSLIDE.

The poll comes from a GOP insider group who does polls so that the McCain Campaign can decide where IS the BEST PLACE to spend their limited resources.

The fact that the McCain campaign WANTS accurate info so thy can make wise decisions concerning where they will spend campaign funds IS A FACT that points to the VALIDITY of this internal polling.

Obama is NOT as far ahead as the PROPAGANDA would make us believe. And this internal polling shows why Obama has expended so much time and effort in Pennsylvania.

BELOW ARE THE URLS TO 2 WEBSITES. CHECK THEM OUT. LISTEN TO THE YOUTUBE THAT’S ON ONE OF THE WEBSITES. AND THEN GET VERY ENCOURAGED!

http://sunlituplands.blogspot.com/2008/11/gop-internal-polls-nj-ca-mi-pa-show.html

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/gop-internal-polls-blue-states-we-are-winning-we-are-going-to-win-do-your-part-and-vote/

NOW READ THE TEXT OF A BLOG THAT WAS POSTED ON TEAM SARAH. (It was posted in ALL CAPS and I’ve copied and pasted it the same way.

CAMPAIGNS’ INTERNAL POLLS SHOW HUGE LOSS FOR OBAMA

GOP INTERNAL POLLS (NJ, CA, MI, PA) SHOW POSSIBLE LANDSLIDE FOR MCCAIN.

IF TRUE LOOK FOR POSSIBLE THREE-MILE ISLAND MELTDOWN BY MSNBC

OBAMA TOOK BLUE STATES FOR GRANTED ‘AT HIS PERIL”

NEW JERSEY: MCCAIN LEADS 48-43 WITH 7% UNDECIDED

UNDECIDEDS ARE BREAKING 4 TO 1 FOR MCCAIN

MCCAIN IS 2 POINTS AHEAD IN NEW JERSEY

AHEAD IN MICHIGAN (YOU REMEMBER — 1/2 HALF VOTE FOR HILLARY IN MICHIGAN)

ONLY 2 POINTS BEHIND IN CALIFORNIA WITH 9% UNDECIDED AND 3% BARR

IN PA THERE IS A MCCAIN BLOWOUT WITH 55% MCCAIN 33% OBAMA WITH 37% DEMS VOTING MCCAIN!

(PUMAAAAAS)

Have courage and take heart. This election is far from over, And McCain WILL NOT lose.

McCain/Palin WILL WIN. THEY MUST!

Have a great day,
Sharon

this only happens if you all get out and vote…

Love,
Bill

NOW READ THE TEXT OF A BLOG THAT WAS POSTED ON TEAM SARAH. (It was posted in ALL CAPS and I’ve copied and pasted it the same way.

This letter is not true.It’s really wanting McCain/Palin supporters to stay home and not vote thinking we have it now.No it’s is not true-DO NOT STAY HOME -GO VOTE EMAIL YOUE FRIENDS AND TELL THEM THIS LETTER IS NOT TURE IT’S A TRICK……GET THIS OUT ALL OVER THE BLOGS NOW…. THIS LETTER IS A FAKE AND IS NOT TURE.IT JUST WANTING US TO THINK THIS –GO VOTE WE ARE NOT STAYING HOME..who ever did this letter wants us to stay home NO GO VOTE.
======================================
Landslide For McCain???
Name: Writegirl
Date Posted: Nov 2, 08 – 12:13 PM
State your in Oregon
Message: Hi everyone,

I found a bit of interesting information today that I want to pass on to you.

PROPAGANDA media and their companion SKEWED POLLS will attempt to discourage McCain/Palin supporters so much that these voters MIGHT stay home.

Well, don’t believe those lies!!!! And don’t stay home! Get out there and vote!

I found a different kind of poll in 3 different places today, a poll that indicates a MCCAIN LANDSLIDE. Yes, you read it correctly. A McCain/Palin LANDSLIDE.

The poll comes from a GOP insider group who does polls so that the McCain Campaign can decide where IS the BEST PLACE to spend their limited resources.

The fact that the McCain campaign WANTS accurate info so thy can make wise decisions concerning where they will spend campaign funds IS A FACT that points to the VALIDITY of this internal polling.

Obama is NOT as far ahead as the PROPAGANDA would make us believe. And this internal polling shows why Obama has expended so much time and effort in Pennsylvania.

BELOW ARE THE URLS TO 2 WEBSITES. CHECK THEM OUT. LISTEN TO THE YOUTUBE THAT’S ON ONE OF THE WEBSITES. AND THEN GET VERY ENCOURAGED!

http://sunlituplands.blogspot.co…mi-pa-show.html

http://countusout.wordpress.com/…-part-and-vote/

NOW READ THE TEXT OF A BLOG THAT WAS POSTED ON TEAM SARAH. (It was posted in ALL CAPS and I’ve copied and pasted it the same way.

This letter is not true.It’s really wanting McCain/Palin supporters to stay home and not vote thinking we have it now.No it’s is not true-DO NOT STAY HOME -GO VOTE EMAIL YOUE FRIENDS AND TELL THEM THIS LETTER IS NOT TURE IT’S A TRICK……GET THIS OUT ALL OVER THE BLOGS NOW…. THIS LETTER IS A FAKE AND IS NOT TURE.IT JUST WANTING US TO THINK THIS –GO VOTE WE ARE NOT STAYING HOME…
====================================================================================
CAMPAIGNS’ INTERNAL POLLS SHOW HUGE LOSS FOR OBAMA

GOP INTERNAL POLLS (NJ, CA, MI, PA) SHOW POSSIBLE LANDSLIDE FOR MCCAIN.

IF TRUE LOOK FOR POSSIBLE THREE-MILE ISLAND MELTDOWN BY MSNBC

OBAMA TOOK BLUE STATES FOR GRANTED ‘AT HIS PERIL”

NEW JERSEY: MCCAIN LEADS 48-43 WITH 7% UNDECIDED

UNDECIDEDS ARE BREAKING 4 TO 1 FOR MCCAIN

MCCAIN IS 2 POINTS AHEAD IN NEW JERSEY

AHEAD IN MICHIGAN (YOU REMEMBER — 1/2 HALF VOTE FOR HILLARY IN MICHIGAN)

ONLY 2 POINTS BEHIND IN CALIFORNIA WITH 9% UNDECIDED AND 3% BARR

IN PA THERE IS A MCCAIN BLOWOUT WITH 55% MCCAIN 33% OBAMA WITH 37% DEMS VOTING MCCAIN!

(PUMAAAAAS)
Madison | 11.02.08 – 4:32 pm | #

NOW READ THE TEXT OF A BLOG THAT WAS POSTED ON TEAM SARAH. (It was posted in ALL CAPS and I’ve copied and pasted it the same way.

This letter is not true.It’s really wanting McCain/Palin supporters to stay home and not vote thinking we have it now.No it’s is not true-DO NOT STAY HOME -GO VOTE EMAIL YOUE FRIENDS AND TELL THEM THIS LETTER IS NOT TURE IT’S A TRICK……GET THIS OUT ALL OVER THE BLOGS NOW…. THIS LETTER IS A FAKE AND IS NOT TURE.IT JUST WANTING US TO THINK THIS –GO VOTE WE ARE NOT STAYING HOME..who ever did this letter wants us to stay home NO GO VOTE.
======================================
Landslide For McCain???
Name: Writegirl
Date Posted: Nov 2, 08 – 12:13 PM
State your in Oregon
Message: Hi everyone,

I found a bit of interesting information today that I want to pass on to you.

PROPAGANDA media and their companion SKEWED POLLS will attempt to discourage McCain/Palin supporters so much that these voters MIGHT stay home.

Well, don’t believe those lies!!!! And don’t stay home! Get out there and vote!

I found a different kind of poll in 3 different places today, a poll that indicates a MCCAIN LANDSLIDE. Yes, you read it correctly. A McCain/Palin LANDSLIDE.

The poll comes from a GOP insider group who does polls so that the McCain Campaign can decide where IS the BEST PLACE to spend their limited resources.

The fact that the McCain campaign WANTS accurate info so thy can make wise decisions concerning where they will spend campaign funds IS A FACT that points to the VALIDITY of this internal polling.

Obama is NOT as far ahead as the PROPAGANDA would make us believe. And this internal polling shows why Obama has expended so much time and effort in Pennsylvania.

BELOW ARE THE URLS TO 2 WEBSITES. CHECK THEM OUT. LISTEN TO THE YOUTUBE THAT’S ON ONE OF THE WEBSITES. AND THEN GET VERY ENCOURAGED!

http://sunlituplands.blogspot.co…mi-pa-show.html

http://countusout.wordpress.com/…-part-and-vote/

NOW READ THE TEXT OF A BLOG THAT WAS POSTED ON TEAM SARAH. (It was posted in ALL CAPS and I’ve copied and pasted it the same way.

This letter is not true.It’s really wanting McCain/Palin supporters to stay home and not vote thinking we have it now.No it’s is not true-DO NOT STAY HOME -GO VOTE EMAIL YOUE FRIENDS AND TELL THEM THIS LETTER IS NOT TURE IT’S A TRICK……GET THIS OUT ALL OVER THE BLOGS NOW…. THIS LETTER IS A FAKE AND IS NOT TURE.IT JUST WANTING US TO THINK THIS –GO VOTE WE ARE NOT STAYING HOME…
====================================================================================
CAMPAIGNS’ INTERNAL POLLS SHOW HUGE LOSS FOR OBAMA

GOP INTERNAL POLLS (NJ, CA, MI, PA) SHOW POSSIBLE LANDSLIDE FOR MCCAIN.

IF TRUE LOOK FOR POSSIBLE THREE-MILE ISLAND MELTDOWN BY MSNBC

OBAMA TOOK BLUE STATES FOR GRANTED ‘AT HIS PERIL”

NEW JERSEY: MCCAIN LEADS 48-43 WITH 7% UNDECIDED

UNDECIDEDS ARE BREAKING 4 TO 1 FOR MCCAIN

MCCAIN IS 2 POINTS AHEAD IN NEW JERSEY

AHEAD IN MICHIGAN (YOU REMEMBER — 1/2 HALF VOTE FOR HILLARY IN MICHIGAN)

ONLY 2 POINTS BEHIND IN CALIFORNIA WITH 9% UNDECIDED AND 3% BARR

IN PA THERE IS A MCCAIN BLOWOUT WITH 55% MCCAIN 33% OBAMA WITH 37% DEMS VOTING MCCAIN!

(PUMAAAAAS)
Madison | 11.02.08 – 4:32 pm | #

This price fixing comes from ACORN’s People’s Platform. Take a read to see where he’s headed.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/acorn-peoples-platform-socialism-in-a-nutshell

Wow, that is encouraging. God bless you all there in America’s heartland!