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Are Six-Year-Old Girls a National Security Risk?

Apparently they are persons of interest, at least to the Transportation Security Administration. An overly invasive patdown of a tiny girl at a New Orleans airport seems to suggest that.

What’s at issue here? Legitimate security concerns applied to all? Or outrageous TSA misconduct? Or sheer stupidity? (Whatever happened to common sense?)

If you haven’t seen the video, watch the whole thing and then let us know what you think.

More on the story here and here.

  • Samb

    …  ARE 8 YEAR OLD BOYS TERRORIST TOO……

    HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE LIVE WITH THEMSELVES!!!!!
    >:o

  • clairtx

    Thank God we are safe from 5 year olds in this country! How stupid can you get? We ought to be ashamed of our government, for putting these children through this.  Is there no end to it?

  • Me

    Parents tell children to beware of such things, to scream “No!” but the government believes it knows better!?!?!?!

  • HELENK

    start taking names of tsa molesters and put them on a sex offenders list website. The chief pervert in charge seems to think it is ok to molest  children maybe we should start with hers.
    They have caught ZERO terrorists and harmed many children.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERINCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I have said this before and I will reiterate it here: Any government employee, federal or otherwise, who performs the “grope” should be arrested by police in the municipality or state in which the unwanted sexual molestation occurred (that is what it is, after all) and be brought up on charges by the appropriate DA. This is repugnant and those who allow this sort of violation of civil liberties should also be brought before the bar of justice. It is time for the states to take the fight back to the excrement in DC who came up with this bullshit.

  • SSDD

    The TSA has now become a real attractive employment opportunity for perverts of all stripes.  I mean, where else can you legally grope children and adults and not get arrested.

  • EllenD

    All right – this is going to get me in trouble but is anyone checking out the racial percentages of these TSA ladies vs their victims? Are any of them taking out their personal animosities and vendettas on humiliating a group that they may have a beef with? It sure seems that their job may give them the discretionary opportunity to spend more time with one individual than another, depending on their mood that day. I prefer machines.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    The TSA has now become a real attractive employment opportunity for perverts of all stripes
    =============
    Indeed. Those with moral fiber need not apply.

    Wow

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    EO is the acronym you are looking for and I’m sure the victims are of all races.

  • Puma for Life

    I think the whole thing  is appalling and offensive.  I don’t know if I could have stood by and watched this done to my child.  No way.  They could throw me and the kid in jail. This is sexual molestation.

  • stodghie

    maybe the state attorney generals need to file charges. let’s then she what big sis has to say? probably something stupid as that is her usual bs!

  • Samb

    ” this is going to get me in trouble but is anyone checking
    out the racial percentages of these TSA ladies vs their victims? ”
    ———————
    I  thought the same thing too…

    How can these people look at themselves at the end of
    the day, all people are not the same.
    They could damage these children for the rest of their lives.

    I know someone who is 80 years old, she said she was
    humiliated and disgusted.

    I don’t care what anyone says,  this is because of Obama and his
    Homeland Security Chief Big Sis Napolitano
    >:o

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Stodghie: Nannies Oblahblah and Napolitano would just say that they’re “protecting” us.

    I’ll protect myself with the 2nd Amendment, thanks very much.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE LIVE WITH THEMSELVES!!!!!  
    =============
    They’re trash that should be hauled away to the nearest landfill for a proper burial.

  • oowawa

    Is there no end to it?  I think it ends here:

  • Samb

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356629/Sexism-complaints-airport-security-male-TSA-officials-compete-woman.html

    “TSA AGENT SAYS- “HEY I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DO HER”
    ————————-
    Some of these agents may prefer one sex to the other
    or one race to  the other, “PERVERTS”
    >:o

  • oowawa

    This is the lesson: SUBMIT!!!

    Start teaching them young and they will learn there is nothing they cannot do to you….

  • Noogan

    It’s sickening to see a 6 year old undergoing an enhanced “pat-down” by a TSA agent, or an 8 year old child for that matter. It’s just sickening to even contemplate that these things are going on in our country. Disheartening, sickening and disgusting. 

    But I wish Americans would all just say no to flying, period. If they did, the airlines would demand that TSA stop this madness. Until Americans stand up and say NO by refusing to fly anywhere, this sickening madness will continue. 

  • HELENK

    Many Americans are choosing to drive rather than fly. Gas prices anyone? Many are also choosing to take the train.
    This is a very underreported story. The MSM is never going to report how many Americans choose liberty and protecting their children from molesters.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Until Americans stand up and say NO by refusing to fly anywhere, this ickening madness will continue. 
    ====================================
    I have, Noogan. My company wanted me to fly out of state for a conference. I told them I would not be subjected to sexual assault and would only drive. Funny thing is, they understood entirely and sent some other poor sap.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    “TSA AGENT SAYS- “HEY I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DO HER”  
    ==============
    This is the sort of shit you get when entitlement becomes a way of life. That f*cker should be fired–period.

  • Dave

    These TSA employees are the rejects form an applicant pool for gargage men, ( I do hate to make it seem tha I am putting down gargage men), garbage men and Port-a-John cleaners are held in higher esteem than TSA employees.   

  • PainKillerJayne

    As a child I was taught not to let a stranger touch me in “private places” and if they did, even if they said they would kill my mother I was to tell her because she would “take care of it”

    I have brought my daughter up the same way, and for our own country to single out children like this is beyond the pale.

    It isn’t Anglo saxons, wasps etc etc blowing up shitand straping tnt to children. It’s the other guys.

    There I SAID IT!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    This is disturbing on so many levels…As I understand it, the parents requested an alternative screening method, which was denied. No reason was given for assaulting this child.

    As y’all know, I have had my own experiences with the TSA sexual assaults, the last one being particularly egregious (the agent used a known faulty machine, which gave a false positive. That landed me in a wood I can only describe as a storage room, where I was subjected to an even MORE invasive pat down. I admit, after I finally got away from those people, I was in tears.).

    But this is a child. It is one thing to do this to an adult, which believe me, is horrible enough. It is quite another to do it to someone so young with NO cause.

    The ACLU is finally getting into gear, and has an Action on this very issues as a result of what happened to this little girl. You can write your Congressperson HERE.

  • PainKillerJayne

    Oh yeah, and nothing like making a 6 yr old american feel like a terrorist.

    DISGUSTING.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    RRRA: I am so sorry that you were abused in such a fashion. This sort of government-sponsored criminal activity will cease at some point if all of us just say “no”. I write my senators and congressman each month with a laundry list of things for them to consider. This TSA crap is always on the list. No American should have to put up with this sort of violation of their person, ever. I am incensed at the gall of these perverts (yes, I said perverts).

  • PainKillerJayne

    Amy I agree.

    As an adult I don’t really want to be patted down. I can’t imagine how a young child would come out of this.

    I really feel this is all due to political correctness. And it is BS.

  • Blue Moon

    “Write your Congressperson….”  Rand Paul is this little girls congressperson.  In fact I would bet that this father and Rand are good friends.  He is a doctor, Rand is a doctor, both live in the same city (same as myself).  We need to hear from Rand concerning this.  There should be an outcry throughout this country concerning this.  Makes me wonder if this little girl’s father was singled out being a doctor and coming from Rand’s hometown.  Sorry, but I don’t trust anyone anymore.  We are about to self-destruct here and there is nothing we can do.  The budget compromise is just what I had feared, we were sold down the river by John Boehner.  This is just my opinion but the Repubs have their problems in the party with the entrenched “Rino’s” vs. the freshman class vs. the tea party.  We are going to “hell in a hand-basket” and there is NO ONE out there to help us stop this now.  All of them should be impeached.  JMO >:o

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks, Ferd – I appreciate that. I cannot overstate how horrible it was, especially since the agents in Tampa were using a machine they KNEW to be faulty.

    PKJ, you are so right. What does it say abt us as a nation that we are targeting people with health issues, or young children? What message are they sending?

  • Linda Anselmi

    So glad you wrote about this Pat!!  Love your toon!  That little girl is a delight – even if the topic is disgusting and the video is sickening!  

  • BINKY

    What’s at issue here? Legitimate security concerns applied to all? Or outrageous TSA misconduct? Or sheer stupidity? (Whatever happened to common sense?)

    I vote for sheer stupidity!

  • PssttCmere

    I might be afraid if the girl was wearing a burqa with a big bulge under it…. O:-)

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • oowawa

    I didn’t want to go anywhere anyway . . .

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I just sent this to DeJarlais:

    Issue: WEBHOM
    Message Subject: TSA Assaults
    Message Text:
    Congressman: The subjection of American citizens to felonious assault or irradiation by scanners at airports are both direct violations of civil liberties and should be condemned by anyone with a capacity of both reading and comprehension of the Constitution. I voted for you because I personally thought you would work towards getting both the nanny and pappy government off our collective backs. I do not need felonious assault by TSA or irradiation by the same agency in order to fly. There are alternate means of implementation, which apparently have been overlooked by the federal government, which has once again decided to punish everyone for the actions of a scant few. I expect you to work to change this TSA policy as soon as possible. I will not fly now or at any point in the future so long as the federal government is intent on violating my person rather than performing actual profiling on those who would actually commit crimes. Irradiation via pornographic scanners and sexual molestation are not keeping this country safe and are an anathema to a free society. That you do not have to suffer such indignities is no excuse for inaction. Either we go after the actual terrorists or we stop the hysteria. your choice. Sincerely, xxxxxx

  • candymarl who luvs ya baby?

    That poor baby. I feel sick.

  • TeakWoodKite

    What “teachable moment” was that young girl exposed to?

    That this a constitutionally acceptable behavior???

    What do I think Rev.Amy? …….

    Ok, I’m back…I literally had to walk away for a spell. To tell you what I think I had to get past how I feel, and that ain’t easy.

    For anyone who has spent anytime in an airport, looking at the mom and the baby carriage and a 6 year old….with some training in basic profiling this would not be happening and should NOT be happening…
    Is this TSA agent aware of what she doing? Does she even give a shit?

    On what “resonable” grounds does she have even the right to touch that child?
    What is the coast emotionally to the worker? This is BAD.

    All I can tell you is if this crap is allowed to continue, I ain’t gonna be standing in some institutionalized line in Metropolis, as oowawa correctly nails!

    I am not sure I could retain any measure of civility if I was witnessing that video. I do not think I will go to the airport anytime soon. I do not wish to be arrested for vocally protesting such treatment. How fast do you think one could insite a riot over something like that? Not that I would seek to, it is just that the volitility of the situation is increased without ANY eye to the dangerous possiblities that may occur as a consequence of this girl being battered.

    I am thinking on two tracks….Johnny Jihad is doing intelligence runs and observing the fact that this agent is not focused on individuals who DO present a real threat. The possibility of a diversion is present, especially if a scene breaks out. The security in that grid could be yanked. I know we have had binary liquid threats and serious wardrobe malfuntions, but as a security matter the only way this young angel could be a threat is if her parents were being jammed up or she was strapped up with a vest.

    Second, what oowawa said. Not ever. I know what pornograhy is when I see it and this disgusting. What does that family tell that child?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I do, too.

  • TeakWoodKite

    So how many criminal cases are active in this arena? How many state AG’s are prosecuting? How is the DOJ civil rights division, the department that Holder came from, involved? Does have to be ” my people” instead of some “corn on the cob” white folks, for him to get of his ass and do his job? (not dissing any one group)

    I want to see Barry’s daughters go through this. (not really, I wouldn’t wish this on anyone) but maybe it would get throught that thick head of his what his job is about.

  • TeakWoodKite

    So how many criminal cases are active in this arena? How many state AG’s are prosecuting? How is the DOJ civil rights division, the department that Holder came from, involved? Does it have to be “my people” instead of some “corn on the cob” white folks, for him to get off his ass and do his job? (not dissing any one group)

    I want to see Barry’s daughters go through this. (not really, I wouldn’t wish this on anyone) but maybe it would get throught that thick head of his what his job is about.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I was having a difficult time with the audio, has anyone seen a transcript of that clip? I would transcribe it but I fear I would puke if had to stop and restart it to do so. Is there a transcript to be had that anyone has seen?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Yes it is. battery too.

  • Cindy

    EllenD—I think your question is a valid one….and  it’d be interesting to know the answer.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Pat, thank you for your art work. Fast forward the context of this young girl.

    what are we doing? I had a “flash forward” were this American child is a child soldier. Some strange John Conners motif.

  • Cindy

    oowawa—that “metropolis” tape is amazing…and scary! Wow!
    Ol’ John Henry Faulk told us 30 years ago that he was becoming concerned because all of the local newscasters across the nation were beginning to look and sound alike. It was downright spooky, once you started observing that.

  • Cindy

    This is the lesson: SUBMIT!!

    If this is where we’re headed, I’d like to “submit” my resignation!

  • Buzz Latte

    Patting down American youngsters is just as necessary as the stupid threat-level color scale was necessary during Bush II’s terms.  In other words, it’s all smoke an mirrors for political gain.  Only difference was that somehow colors and numbers were not as perverted as the daily assault on citizens the TSA workers carry out.

  • Cindy

    Pat—As always, a creative, hard-hitting cartoon. great post. Thank you!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    My heart goes out to the little one in the video; she is very confused as to what this person is doing to her! Thank goodness her mother was close by to at least give her some sense and comfort! It is an outrage to put a small innocent child through these horrendous pat downs!
    I can assure you it’s no different a feeling when your child is 12. My daughter was taken to a glass box and a TSA guy stood in front of it with his arm across the entrance, I take it so she did not try to get out! She had to wait around until he found a free female worker, to do the pat down so she became confused! I was motioned to go through the security line and collect our belongings and wait at the end until the pat down etc was complete….All I remember were her eyes popping out of her head!

  • Cindy

    This is the lesson: SUBMIT!!  
     
    If this is where we’re headed, I’d like to “submit” my resignation! :)

  • Cindy

    ~JustMe~—-I’m so sorry that happened—how horrible for both of you!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Thanks, Cindy, I had to be good….really! Christmas behind bars didn’t seem too appealing!

  • EllenD

    As a foreigner, I had to look up EO, Ferd. THe first thing that came to my mind was the Edmonton Oilers Hockey Team. ;)

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Thanks, Cindy, I had to be good….really! Christmas behind bars didn’t seem too appealing! However, I did file a complaint.

  • EllenD

    and I’m sure the victims are of all races.
    And the TSA agents?

  • Geoff C. The Saltine

    Just watched the movie 3 weeks ago with AA its a dandy for being 70 years+ old.

  • don x

     The child groping by TSA is outrageous.  Perhaps more people should take the lead of Jesse Ventura with a lawsuit.

    www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41242600

  • ~~JustMe~~
  • don x

    Thanks JustMe.  I was going to say, one has to copy the link into the address window of your browser to open it, but you fixed it.

  • AbigailAdams

    This is “normalization” of another abnormal government intrusion and it is the expression of another utopic brainstorm of a very small group, maybe even an individual (probably an individual) decision whose logic strongly runs along the line of “taking care of the problem” by thinking that if all people are “processed” then everyone will be “safe”; unable to see the big, f***ing hole in their so-called safety net, for example their own aversion to strenuously identifying and scrutinizing more probable targets.  This reminds me of a banking debacle of the 80′s when Seafirst Bank, the 20th largest bank in the country went under because they gave out loans to Penn Square, a tiny, strip mall bank, serving the southern oil industry, without actually verifying their collateral.  After that, and before they were bought by BofA, Seafirst sent their loan managers out to every used car lot whenever they underwrote a loan.  Too little, too late, and the wrong target.  This is what our gov’t is, more or less.  Who is serving who?  That is the question to ask.  It doesn’t even matter how many “threats” have been thwarted at this point.  The biggest threat to our liberty emanates from petty bureaucrats and overpaid molesters.  What price freedom?  I think Der Homeland Security and the GAO can give us an actual dollar amount, and we’re footing the bill for our own incarceration.  Do you trust the same people who steal from airline passengers’ luggage, putting their hands down your pants?  Bing “TSA agents stealing” and you’ll find that from JFK to Kona, and all points in between, that our fine gov’t, in its infinite wisdom, has placed us all in the hands of immoral people who feel entitled to our stuff — whether it’s our money or our dignity.  Instead of pinpointing the real threat and going after it, our gov’t builds a vast, unweildy and ineffective superstructure that cows its citizens into submission to nothing less than gulag-like behavior; laboring at our jobs to support it and them. 

  • AbigailAdams

    And another thing….

    I’ve been paying attention to systems and devices we pay for in our municipalities and states that spy on us to keep us in line; things that taxpayers pay for in order to “keep us all safe” from the actions of a few.  Do the cost in dollars and in privacy warrant them?

    More importantly, how do we teach personal responsibility, impelled discipline or conscionability to our children when, in fact, they no longer have to hold the reins of their own behavior or suffer the internal pangs of personal regret for wrong-doing?  Why should these things matter to them in a world where, if they do something wrong, it will be caught on camera or recorded to a remote system which triggers a gov’t worker at some level (from grammar school to department of motor vehicles) to issue a citation?  These things give Marx’s “alienation” an entirely different hue.

  • AbigailAdams

    Pat asks:  “Are Six Year-Old Girls a Threat to Our National Security?”

    They very well could be, because our Homeland Security wizards are spending needless time body searching them instead of spending our time and money on more likely threats.

  • AgentX

    Ridiculous….

  • AgentX

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  • Kenoshamarge

    Your excellent letter motivated me to write one of my own borrowing, er stealing from yours. I sent one to each of my Senators and to Paul Ryan who is my congressman.

    They can ignore us if they only get a few letters. They can’t ignore a deluge. Let’s make it rain on their parade.

  • arabella trefoil

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  • JB in VA

    You know, this is not the TSA workers’ fault; they are simply trying to hold on to their job.

    It IS is the fault of the federal agency (TSA) which put these ridiculous, horrible, unconstitutional procedures in place, and the irresponsible cabinet secretary (Napolitano) who approved them, and the goddamned f*cking president of the United States who appointed the cabinet secretary.

    AND Congress, which has the power to outlaw this TODAY, and refuses to do so.

  • ScrayD

    As a child, I was molested by a teacher.  I never told my parents.  As an adult,  I did call the school later and let them know.  Raising my own, I did everything in my power to insure their safety.  One of the things I did was talk to them.  I told them to listen to their gut – if it feels or seems ‘wrong’ – walk/run away and tell me about it – I’ll take care of it.   And, if the person ever says “I’ll hurt your family if you tell.”  Do not believe him/her!  That will not happen.
    I would never, NEVER have allowed my kids to go through a pat-down that intense.  It seems and feels wrong because it is wrong.

  • JB in VA

    And another thing:  Paying for a war of choice like Iraq or Libya is bad enough, but the idea that my tax money is paying for VICTIMIZING AMERICAN CHILDREN AND ENCOURAGING PEDOPHILIA really, really, really pisses me off. 

  • kinthenorthwest

    You know I am already in trouble for this and I don’t really care…I would like to know that my family and I are safe when we fly. Even if that means my small great grandchildren and I are groped before we get into the plane…
     
    Yes it is sick that our children have to go through this type of groping to fly with their parents.  But to have them blown to pieces by some weird bomber…Take your pick.
     
    How soon some of you have forgotten how the  terrorists have used young boys, pregnant women and old women as suicide bombers…
     
    What is to prevent them from using a young white Caucasian child, or maybe a white Caucasian preteen that looks very young for their age. I know the child on the video was not acting but believe it or not I know many 6 -10 year olds that could play that part very well.
     
    The terrorist  have been actively recruiting for Caucasian American Women in the states.  Already several American Caucasian women have be caught, but how many are still out there. How many might have or will have children they will brain wash to the Terrorist thinking…
     
    Look at Israel’s airlines and their record…How do you think they keep their airports and airplanes safe…Yes a lot is profiling but a lot is similar to what we are doing now.
     
    Remember every time the terrorist see a loop hole they will try and use it…The shoe bomber, the underpants bomber, the UPS package bombs around Christmas time…
     
    IF we get  careless and lax at that airports, I bet you that the terrorist will hear and see it and try and use it..What you be saying when they succeed because we were negligent.

  • kinthenorthwest

    You know I am already in trouble for this and I don’t really care…I would like to know that my family and I are safe when we fly. Even if that means my small great grandchildren and I are groped before we get into the plane…
     
    Yes it is sick that our children have to go through this type of groping to fly with their parents. Maybe it should have been toned down a bit.  But your child blown to pieces by some weird bomber…Take your pick.
     
    How soon some of you have forgotten how the  terrorists have used young boys, pregnant women and old women as suicide bombers in our wars in Israel and other places…
     
    What is to prevent them from using a young white Caucasian child, or maybe a white Caucasian preteen that looks very young for their age. I know the child on the video was not acting but believe it or not I know many 6 -10 year olds that could look and play that part very well.
     
    The terrorist  have been actively recruiting for Caucasian American Women in the states.  Already several American Caucasian women have be caught, but how many are still out there. How many might have or will have children they will brain wash to the Terrorist thinking…
     
    Look at Israel’s airlines and their record…How do you think they keep their airports and airplanes safe…Yes a lot is profiling but a lot is similar to what we are doing now.
     
    Remember every time the terrorist see a loop hole they will try and use it…The shoe bomber, the underpants bomber, the UPS package bombs around Christmas time…
     
    IF we get  careless and lax at that airports, I bet you that the terrorist will hear and see it and try and use it..What you be saying when they succeed because we were negligent.

  • Lee

    Oh good grief.  If we could just start profiling, this would not happen to our little children.  Enough already!  I guess the terrorist won.

  • oowawa

    You can’t let the terrorrists cow you into submission.  Yes, they would like to kill people.  But their main purpose in killing people is to instill an atmosphere of terror into the populace–that’s why they’re called terrorists.  Once they have terrified us to the extent that we are willing to hand over our little children to gestapo groping in the name of security, they have succeeded in cowing us into submission.

    You want to do something useful in the name of security?  Inspect the ports and look at every shipment coming into this country.  Watch the borders.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Lee I will agree with you The Terriorist have won on this point…

    Sad state of affairs for our nation and our world…

    Whats really sadder is that we are more than likely currently supporting them in taking over some more countries…like Egypt and Libya

  • JB in VA

    kinthenorthwest — the Israelis do NOT grope people, they do not use intrusive scanning, and they NEVER treat children or ANYONE this way unless their behavior is suspicious.  At airports they do verbal pre-screening and sophisticated behavioral profiling of each passenger, and using these non-invasive, non-abusive techniques they have a 100% success rate.

    I have been arguing here that Americans need to get serious and adopt Israeli methods. Treating every single passenger as if they are a likely terrorist is the opposite of getting serious.

    Only a fool would think that child was a terrorist, and only a monster would say she or any other child should be treated like one. 

  • Retired

    If TSA groper’s gloves fit, we must submit.  Under the pogressive socialist utopia envisioned by both the late noted Kenyan economist Barack Obama Sr. and his son (Barack Jr. got this dream from his father), intellectually qualified, politically reliable elite government cadres will dictate to the people what the must do and how they must act for the greater good of a “fair” society.  In “fairness,” those who will not submit, or others who are undesireable for a “far” society–the sick, the elderly–must be eliminated for the general good of the people.  ”Fair” must be the watchword for our world. 

  • JB in VA

    On the ABC news report about this, the mother said her daughter was trying to do everything “right” during the assault (my word, not hers), but that afterward she started crying and kept asking what she’d done wrong to be treated like that.

    The parents also said that the TSA employee and supervisor made it clear through their body language and tone of voice that if the parents made any objection they would be put through hell.

  • Retired

    I inadertenly substitured “pogressive” for “progressive” in my comment above, thus creating a new word that will have a humorous meaning for U.S. Marines.  “Pogue,” derived from the Marine slang for candy, “pogey bait,” is a derisive term used by Marines for slackers.  Since Obama and the Democrats are planning for a society that has more takers than contributors, “pogressive” seems an apt description.  Semper Fi. 

  • kinthenorthwest

    Face it guys gone are the days we could just leave our doors unlocked or even open at night to let in a cool breeze on a hot summers night.
    Gone are the days we just parked our car unlocked at home, at work, while shopping or ????
    Gone are the days that we could let  our kids walk to school by themselves,  play in the park down the block without strict adult supervision or ???

    Hey at 7 & 8 I was walking to the store close to a mile a way for my mom to pick up some odd thing for her or spend some money I had gotten…By myself…NO MORE….
    I walked home from school that was about 10 blocks or so away in 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade cause my older siblings stayed later…NO MORE…

    Times have changed a whole lot…And its not just the Muslim Terriorist…

  • AC

    Assaulting a child!  What could possibly be in her hair, and between her legs!  Thanks Bush and Obama.  Where are the lawyers?

  • AC

    My bad on the assault this was an assault and battery (touching is a battery).

    Sick MF’rs all of them!

  • elaine

    I hate this type of thing every bit as much as all of you but what is the alternative? Face it we live in a world where people are known to have put explosives in breast implants, body cavities, baby bottles & who knows what else. For about 30 to 40 years we’ve been indoctrinated with the belief that multiculturalism is desirable & religous tolerance is encoded in law.

    I’d love to see a profiling program that can accurately identify wrong doers. If all it looks for is past criminal history, known associates (which would do doubt be ruled unconstitional i.e. guilt by association, etc), & employment history what good is it?

    Rather than a machine that operates through x-rays, how about a machine that uses sound waves or MRI technology? As for modesty concerns: drive or walk. Rather than hating on the TSA agents, I think hostilities are better aimed else where, at the core of the problem. 

  • AC

    OOOOHHHH, the boogey man’ll get you.

  • oowawa

    No “alternative” will totally protect us from people who are willing to kill themselves in order to terrorize us.   But we can protect ourselves from submitting to their terror.  We can’t let them change us; we can’t let them scare us into giving up our freedom. 

  • elaine

    As for adopting Isralie techniques, didn’t Larry & John Huey already explain how difficult (if not impossible) this would be since we have a bazillion more flights a day than they do. Israel is tiny, we’re a very large county.

  • kinthenorthwest

    oowawa the world around us has already changed….
    Do you let children in your care just go places blocks away from your house without supervision of some sort, especially if they are under about the age of 9 or 10.
    Do you leave your car unlocked in malls, at work, on the street at home???
    Do you leave your home unlocked when you are not there, or even when you are there….
    The world has changed….even in small town America…

    It would be nice if we could have the safe world that we had several decades ago…It wasnt perfect but there were far less problems than today…And we were much safer on the streets and in our homes…

  • oowawa

    Yes, the world is a more dangerous place.  I will lock my doors, and my car, but I will not let strangers at the airport grope my granddaughters . . .

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    As for adopting Isralie techniques, didn’t Larry & John Huey already explain how difficult (if not impossible) this would be since we have a bazillion more flights a day than they do. Israel is tiny, we’re a very large county
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    That’s the old we-can’t-do-it-because-it’s-too-difficult mode of thought. If they can’t, then fire the lot of them and hire those who can. I am sick to death of the can’t do attitude prevalent among our alleged leaders. “Do it or you’re fired” should be the motto. I am also on my last nerve with the punish everyone for the actions of a few mentality. Fire all of them.

  • oowawa

    Perhaps the whole TSA is a big mistake.  The airlines have a vested interest in keeping their passengers safe and making sure their planes don’t get blown up.  Let them do it.  Fire the federal gestapo!

  • kinthenorthwest

    Then you dont fly you use your car, take a bus, or a train. or get there by some other means….
    Its not like this is something that is done to you everyday when you go to school when you go shopping or ???  Remember we dont live in Israel where they they have metal detactors in almost every public facility…In Israel if you dont want to go through the detectors you dont shop….
    Since when is flying a need…..I have a friend that is going to finally coming  up to where I live cause they got a permanent job and have 2 weeks vacation coming…They dont like to fly so they are coming by car…

    You want to save time and fly then there are certain things one must do…
    Its very sad…Wish they had a better way like Elaine pointed out…
    but untill then…
    I will summit to the searches like everyone else if asked and feel just a bit safer….

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

     Fire the federal gestapo!
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    I heartily second that motion.

    All in favor say, AYE.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    AYE!

  • oowawa

    Aye Aye Aye Aye!

  • oowawa

    Aye Aye Aye Aye!

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Love it, oowawa.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I will summit to the searches like everyone else if asked and feel just a bit safer….
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    I will not submit and I haven’t flown now in over 6 years. I will never fly again, either, until they rid this country of the useless Department of Homeland Security. I’ll drive until the tires fall off my ‘Stang but I will not be subjected to molestation or pornographs by dickweeds who aren’t even qualified to take my trash away. The airlines can wither and die on the vine so that the TSA will become a relic in history’s reeking shitcan. Screw DHS and their armchair warrior bureaucrats who couldn’t find a terrorist if a gun were held to their heads.

  • JB in VA

    kinthenorthwest – I’m sick and tired of you slamming Israel and spreading false information. Yes, they have metal detectors everywhere, and people’s bags are searched when they enter malls or fairs or concerts or schools. But they don’t grope children!!!, because terrorist attacks occur everywhere, But the people manning those detectors have some common sense and know

  • kinthenorthwest

    If they have a better way to protect us I say Fire the TSA and let the Airlines do it…
    Remember the will mean higher prices.

  • oowawa

    I agree Ferd.  Going places is entirely overrated, anyway . . .

  • JB in VA

    kinthenorthwest — I’m sick and tired of you misrepresenting Israel and giving Israelis a bad name.

    Of course they have metal detectors everywhere, and people’s bags are searched when they enter malls and concerts and fairs and other public gatherings, but THEY DON’T GROPE CHILDREN or anyone else going through. If someone looks or acts suspicious they take them aside for questioning. The people manning the metal detectors have army and security training, and they use common sense. They Do Not Grope People. 

    These minimalist techniques thwart many attacks, in a country where everyone knows a terrorist attack can occur any time, anywhere. Do NOT equate the Israelis’ smart, effective, respectful security methods with the nonsense and nightmares the TSA is imposing on American air travellers.  

  • Noogan

    Don’t like TSA screening policies? You’re suspect then:

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/

  • oowawa

    “Higher prices”?  Maybe.  And much more politeness . . .

  • Pat_E

    Hmm… one has to wonder what your motive is here.   There’s countries around the world that experience critical situations every day and yet not one of them does a pat down on a child.  My guess is that the TSA wants travellers to bear witness to the fact that they are willing to do it to a child.  Yet, certain groups such as Muslim women are exempt.  It’s complete BS that they are now targeting children and they are getting called on it.  Everybody knows it except it seems, you.

  • 2012notsoonenough

    kinthenorthwest and Elaine good points
    JB where does kin say anything about Israel groping.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    You can bet your bottom dollar the Israelis grope when profiling indicates they should. The difference between Israel and the US is that they actually deter terrorism by going after the real thugs and not by inconveniencing every fucking passenger on every plane so they can create even bigger fiefdoms for themselves and their progeny. Israel does it correctly. Our government is clueless.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    “Arrogant complaining” about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists,
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    Fuck TSA and the shrunken heads who came up with the idea for this monumentally stupid department. Arrogant complaining, my rosy red ass. Fire them all.

  • oowawa

    “Attitude problem!  We have an attitude problem over here!”  I’ve been through that–for daring to ask a question . . . The woman shouting those words looked like Janet Napolitano in uniform.

  • 2012notsoonenough

    Ferd our government is more worried about being Politically correct regardless of what it does to our nation…

    Dont ask for Legal ID in Arizona for that might step on the toes of some hispanics…
    Dont call the shooter at Fort Hood a Muslim or tie him to the terriorist cause thats would be racist…
    Gates is innocent cause the cops are racist–just ask Obama…

    The list goes on and on…Since Obama has become president Civil Rights have gone down the tubes…I bet MLK is rolling in his grave.

  • AgentX

    My answer to TSA…..

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