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ACTION ALERT – Obama has promised to bankrupt coal plants

By American Girl in Italy on November 2, 2008 at 8:15 PM in Economy, Energy Policy, Kentucky, Obama, Ohio, Texas, West Virginia, Workers

We need swift action – We need to get this video out to the people of coal based states.

Search all kinds of sites, mommy sites, restaurant/city blogs, online newspapers, grocery stores…anything and everything!! We need to get this message out to the people that this will effect. Those who don’t live this stuff 24/7. Look for sites that are supporting Obama, too.

Try to post this video on web sites in these states: Montana, Illinois, Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, North Dakota, New Mexico, Virginia and Texas.

Obama: We Will Bankrupt the Coal Plants

States like WV have experienced devastating consequences from collapsing industries. They won’t want more of the same.

See Truthteller’s earlier post, for a more in-depth look at this.

You can make a difference TODAY! This will change people’s minds.

Let Obama speak for himself, just copy and paste the headline and link to the video:

(and I’m sure I don’t need to remind people to be polite. :O)

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    My friend in Ohio already heard this on NBC there today. Yes spread it around. It would be great if this finally did OhBlowme in in PA and OH.

    • Leslie

      New Obama Shock Audio

      Another jaw-dropping clip from the SF Chronicle/Gate “coal” interview:

      Obama: “Under my plan of a Cap & Trade system ELECTRICITY RATES WOULD NECESSARILY SKYROCKET”

      http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

      Bankrupting Coal is only part of his evil plan.

      Obama’s advocating “skyrocketing” electrical rates is another that affects everyone: every household, every business.

      And it spells economic disaster for the US economy as this plan would be unilateral. Other countries would not be affected and will be much more competitive vs. the cost of US-produced goods with sky-high energy costs, artificially inflated by the extreme anti-global warming Obama Cap, Trade, & Redistribute plan.

      Please listen and spread this around.

      http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    From my friend in Ohio about the COAL STORY

    Hi:

    I heard it on the evening news tonight–NBC.

    Sorry I didn’t get to listen to the conference call. My son came home from the Browns football game and we all had dinner. Just getting back on the computer now.

    My son said to pray that the Washington Redskins win their game tomorrow night. In the last 4 presidential elections the Redskins have played just before Election Day and the three games that they won on election eve a Republican was elected. The one that they lost, a Dem(Clinton) got in. Go Redskins!!!!!

    I do have a good gut feeling about McCain winning….
    Love,
    Barbara

    • Windy

      I am sorry, but McCain will just have to overcome a Steeler win! No way am I praying against my Steelers.

      • stodgie

        hey windy, you are talking out the wrong end.

        • Leslie

          If you know how, you could post all over CRAIGSLIST in each of those states.

      • Firefly

        Well, I guess while we’re at it I need to put in a good word for my Philadelphia Eagles – we won today – yay! Nephew had a really good game – lots of tackles – and we’re on a 3-game winning streak!

        With the Redskins in the same division as us, I sure have a hard time rooting for them – but if it means a McCain win, I’ll do it – I’ll do just about anything!

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Yeah like I really believe that story about the Republican voting for Obama. LMFAO. Another trick.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      Troll soon to be vaporized.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      OBAMA IS A FRAUD can you use the “Reply to this comment” link when replying to a comment? Its easier for us to follow the comment flow. Thanks!

  • Lee Ruth

    You beat me to it!!! LOL
    How many women’s husbands that work in the coal industry will lose there jobs when Obama bankrupts the industry?
    This will devastate Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, West Virginia, Virginia, and Indiana. It will also raise the electricity bills of everyone. 46% of our electricity comes from coal. Coal can be processed by new clean methods. The audio interview that Obama had with San Francisco Chronicle has been hidden from the public…until now. Here is the link to the audio where Obama says that he will bankrupt the coal industry.
    http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

  • MG-PUMA

    ****BREAKING****

    VP candidate Wiley Drake of the Independent Party files lawsuit against Obama requiring him to provide proof of citizenship.

    Also 24 potential Electoral College electors to file separate suit.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122700/posts

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      This was reported here by me last night, but thanks for posting the info again.

      This should be a moot point Tuesday. :shock:

      • MG-PUMA

        Yes, sorry for missing that info last night, but you are the one who posted first on this news. :)

        This news comes at a good time for me, since one Obot insists that O has “all the Electoral votes and McCain statistically cannot win.”

        Thank you again, Galt (love your username, btw!)

      • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

        I don’t think any of this stuff is moot until he is inaugurated, which we all know he won’t be anyway. I am glad Wiley Drake is doing this.

        • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

          It is moot as of Tuesday when he loses. The suits will be dropped, unless he tries to run again in 2012.

          • lisa in va

            He’ll be in prison in 2012. But I won’t put it past him to try to run for president while in prison. Those o’bots are so gullible, they’d believe anything.

            • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

              ROFLMAO – I agree. Joliette will have him by 2012. I said it the first time I saw him speak and heard about his continual fraud and criminal activity. It WILL catch up to him.

          • stodgie

            i think this needs to be carried to the end with either criminal or civil sanctions. also the dnc needs to be sued for the money and pain they have caused. they knew this and shoved him down our throats anyway.

            • bemused

              Yes–his whole campaign was a fraud that injured a huge class of people, Americans. He may have been a part of an attempt to bankrupt us already (F&F). And that’s besides daily life in Chicago. I hope he’s busted before he gets to fly away in his special plane. (Although if he takes Ayers, Wright, Pelosi, etc., it might save the country a lot of court costs).

          • For McCain

            I hope the suits are not dropped even if Obama loses; he needs to be extinguished.

            And then we need to revamp our election process before the next election, so someone like him never gets this close again.

            Revamp our parties (both), our primaries process (do away with the caucauses—>margin of error is to great and are to easy to cheat in; as Obama has proven), our voting process (including presenting Valid ID’s and addresses), vetting all potential canidates before they even get to the primary stage of the process.

    • ginaswo

      HEY FINALLY !!

      SOMEONE with STANDING sues!!

      this is someone who by virtue of their candidacy can prove they would be damaged by allowing an ineligible person to run

      finally!

      • jbjd

        I don’t think so. But any S of S would have standing to enforce the requirements to get onto the general election ballot in the state; in any state whose laws I have examined, the basic requirement is, the candidate has to satisfy the requirements for the office he seeks.

    • libby

      Same guy (a minister) who asked people to Pray for the Deaths of his opponents. what a loon.

      Minister calls for death prayers over IRS complaint
      http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/DN-ardeaththreat.ART.State.Edition1.41eff1d.html

  • “Clean coal” is an industry fraud

    Obama and McCain are both wrong on the topic of “clean coal”.

    There’s no such thing, and there’s no technology waiting in the wings that would make it an economically viable reality. Carbon dioxide sequestering simply won’t work on the required scale. It hasn’t even been tested experimentally. Probably because doing so would prove the point.

    Coal isn’t the fuel of the future.

    • Steve_in_KC

      Coal isn’t being touted as the fuel of the future. But even environmentalists have to face the reality that coal is still a major source of energy and millions of Americans are employed by coal in some form. From the miners, to truckers, to electricity-producing power plants, and all the people more indirectly associated with these industries.

      It cannot be replaced in a couple of years. We are in a financial crisis, in case you haven’t noticed. This is no time to worry about the same pollution we are accustomed to, compared to how critical it is that we not lose more jobs!!

      We can start building up cleaner energy production immediately, but we can’t stifle ANY domestic power source during a worldwide financial crisis. And we can’t sacrifice those energy-related jobs until we have new jobs to replace them.

    • Jillie

      who said ‘coal is the fuel of the future?’ the problems now are to get off dependence on foreign oil and develop alternative technologies. coal will be one of the things that can bring about both those goals.

      • IndianaDem

        One of the main reasons I’ve supported Obama is because he considers a national alternative energy crash program an absolute imperative, while McCain and Palin have only paid the topic lip service.

        Alternative energy development will be central to our national economic recovery plan, our security strategy, and our response to global climate change. As it should be. It’s the one solution to all of those problems.

        • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/ Truthteller

          I see we have a low information Obamabot in the thread. Utterly vacuous, indeed hopelessly mindless, he offers nothing except unfounded talking points he, she or it has absorbed from the Obamamedia.

          Take it somewhere else, you hapless dolt.

          • IndianaDem

            Was there actually an intelligent point there somewhere? Insults are about a dime a dozen, and worth even less.

            Indiana happens to be a coal state. That doesn’t change my perception of the facts.

            BTW, the United Mine Workers of America are fully aware of John McCain’s record when it comes to the coal industry:

            http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=compac/real-mccain-record-coal

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          You are 1) A liar. Palin has been the Oil and Gas Commissioner in the biggest oil producing state in this country. She knows energy better than OHitler will EVER know in his lifetime. My family is in the Oil Business. We have friends who have held that job. It’s SO difficult. She’s an energy GENIUS, lying dumb azz TROLL. McCain and Palin have the ONLY energy plan that will help us. 2) OHitler has too many freaky Arab friends and his pal Chavez – all who we are dependent on and all who I know OHitler would keep us dependent on. 3) There is NO viable alternative source and won’t be for many years. OHitler has no plan for the gap time, other than to keep us dependent on his terrorist friends.

          • IndianaDem

            Do you honestly believe the governor of Alaska is likely to be a strong proponent of the alternative energy development our nation so desperately needs, when the huge budget surplus of her home state results entirely from oil industry revenues?

            Sarah Palin is no “energy genius”. She’s the political beneficiary of an accident of geology and of our nation’s addiction to petroleum.

            It doesn’t take a genius to understand that increased drilling solves nothing when we’re consuming 25% of the world’s total annual oil production, but possess only 3% of the world’s total reserves.

        • Becker

          Yes, and little fairies will poof the alternative energy into existence. Obots fall for all the flim-flam.

          • IndianaDem

            We already have the technological capability to begin a shift to wind and solar power. If we set our minds to it, we could totally free ourselves of our dependence on foreign energy sources in less than 10 years. You don’t have to believe in fairies. Only in science, technology, and American ingenuity.

            Bush ran up 5 trillion dollars in debt in 8 years. What have we got to show for it?

            For a mere fraction of that, we can build a 21st Century alternative energy infrastructure and get ourselves back on the road to realizing our unlimited potential.

            I’m tired of being told what we can’t do, and that hope and change are just empty words. That’s not the proper American mindset. We can do whatever we can realistically imagine ourselves doing.

        • AnnieO

          Obama’s strategy is a half-assed approach that will kill our economy in the meantime.

        • J.J. (The PUMA)

          What a strange perspective that it is McCain who is paying lip service to energy independence.

          • IndianaDem

            Not really.

            Drilling more wells to drain off a finite supply of something even more quickly isn’t how you become independent of it.

            Energy independence will come from shifting to something there’s an inexhaustable supply of.

            McCain and Palin have lately picked up on the fact that talking about alternative energy is politically expedient. Their primary commitment is to expanded oil drilling.

        • cookiegramma

          So where is any proposal for the interim between now, when we depend on these sources, and then when in 10 to 15 years some of the country has these alternative sources of energy? Where is the money to come from to pay for this change over if The senator cuts and bankrupts coal, agriculture and the military by the 25% his friend barney promises?

        • NOBAMA2

          If we do not acquire energy independence we will be at the mercy of, and ultimately destroyed by, those who control energy (Russia, the middle east).

          And so all of the nicey-nice ideas about alternatives NOW will just be dust to the winds anyways.

          Further if we didn’t know about Obama-Ayer’s agenda to DESTROY AMERICA we might not be as skeptical either.

          Enviromarxism…a convenient combo.

          I’m sure Ayers will use renewable energy sources and recycle those 25 million non-re-educatable Americans in his extermination camps into nice bars of soap and lamp shades, using solar energy of course!!

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Coal may not be perfect, but if we HAD another energy choice that was VIABLE we would be USING IT. OHitler’s statement shows that his agenda never takes into consideration that this country has people with JOBS and he would devastate the economy with his selfish nonsense. Just like with OIL. If we HAD another energy source, we would BE using it. It will be MANY years before that happens. Rather than OhBlowme spouting his nonsense rhetoric, we need PLANS to keep America running cost efficiently UNTIL we develop these alternative sources. NOT just destroy the country because Ohblowme thinks it’s cute and funny to do so.

      • Barry bums a ciggie

        * 90% of coal deposits occur on public lands in Colorado
        * Coal is used to generate 80% of the electricity consumed in Colorado
        * 62.2% of Colorado coal is transported to other states; 2.8% is exported to foreign markets (i.e., Japan, Mexico); the remaining 35% stays in Colorado for power generation
        * With an average BTU of 9,900 to 13,100 and an average sulfur content of less than 0.39%, Colorado coal is among the highest quality, cleanest fuels found anywhere in the world

    • ginaswo

      MAC wants to use BETTER coal tech than we have been using, in order to allow coal and oil and nat gas to serve as a BRIDGE to the new technology

      get it?

      this way we dont go frakkin dark or face starvation

      but I fergit, Obummer says we cant expect to keep our thermostats on 70 and drive around and eat whenevr we want!

      MAC/PALIN 08
      Hillary 12

    • Peggy Sue

      No one said coal was the fuel of the future. But coal, drilling and nuclear can give us a bridge to the future.

      Unless, of course, you plan to sit in the dark for the next 10 years.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com SUGAR

    Wow! This is devastating to the coal industry. To America in general. WTF are these people thinking? I’m setting to post at 12am tonight so that it will cover tomorrow as well. I’ve got a post up now that includes a letter from that National Republican Trust PAC so that anyone who stops by can find some inspiration.

    AVOID CNN AND MSNBC everybody! They will sap you of any energy you’ve got left and we’ve got to keep it strong until the last vote is counted. Hell, even FOX almost got me feeling antsy tonight and there is no reason for any of us to feel as though Obama’s got it in the bag. He doesn’t!

    • KenNOhio

      I haven’t watched MSNB since the night of the last election because I wanted to see the losers whine. I hope to be watching it again this Tueday evening although I am sure it will be very late…..Keep the Faith and Vote no matter what you hear or from where….

      • J.J. (The PUMA)

        As soon as Fox declares Pennsylvania for McCain, I will be switching to MSNBC to watch them sweat.

        • NOBAMA2

          You are a braver soul than I…
          I am now constrained to noquarter, texasdarlin, theobamafile, and if I want outrageousness, obambi.wordpress.com

          I have voted, and inspired three others to vote McCain/Palin, I’ve made 2 websites about Odinga and wasted 6 months of my life fretting and blogging over Nobama…

          Now, all I can do is lock down the house and hope there’s no riots. TV on animal channel until Weds.

  • AM

    I was wondering if someone can call or email Lan at
    the Patriot Brigade Talk Radio now, then, he will let his radio listeners know about what the tape, before starting his interview on Mr. Berg. I believe he is in or near OH. Just a thought.

    “Special broadcast with Phil Berg on Overnight AM tonight, Nov 2, 2008, 10 PM EST

    Lan is normally off on Saturdays and Sundays, but the election is right around the corner and the Patriot Brigade Talk Radio Network is working overtime to get the facts out about Barack Obama and the peoples fight to
    learn and digest the truth about Barack Obama’s assault on the United States Constitution.
    Special appearance by Comedian Evan Sayet, founder of the Right To Laugh.

    Don’t miss this show. If you miss it, don’t worry. It will be running for the rest of today and all next week on the Patriot Brigade Talk Radio Network.”

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Thanks, American Girl – I’ll put the video up at my blog now.

    And HOLY CRAP. WHERE has all of this stuff been, for pete’s sake???

    Great work!

    • ginaswo

      The GATE didnt print any of this in their article on their interview

      the media has been covering his skinny butt all along..

      the frakkers

    • Elizabeth

      Was this coal tape unearthed by the same crackerjack detective(s) who brought us the ‘redistribution’ hidden audio last week ? If so, from the site it almost has the feel of a one man/woman operation.

      So a huge shout out to whoever is responsible for bringing the msm to their knees…although it feels almost like this set of releases is a coordinated effort at the 11th hour. For maximum effect, it would have circled him in a few days sooner.

      http: //nakedemperornews.blogtownhall. com/

  • SJ

    Palin spoke about this today on the campaign trail and she is right where the hell was this tape all the time, the voters have a right to know the truth of what Obama wants to do to this country.

    That is the problem the media is covering for Obama in every way, that is why I ask do these people that are working in the media love this country? I am sure all of them have the goods on Obama, they all get inside scoops and tips and am sure they have tons on Obama, but why hide it why?

    I think every American after this election should take a firm stand on the media, close some of them down if it comes to that because this is total nonsense as to what is going on.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      The worst part about the coal tape is that the San Francisco Chronicle just sort of left that part of the interview OUT when they printed the story. Of COURSE no one can get anything fair with OHitler.

    • Barry bums a ciggie

      I say the McCain campaign should have an audio/video show before their speeches to tell the people that Barry’s bin lyin’. Throw in some Biden moronic comments and some surrogates as well–Judas Richarson, Barney Frank, etc. That’s worth the price of any ticket.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

    OT. Rut roh for Opampers!

    For Immediate Release
    November 2, 2008
    Contact: Press Office
    703-650-5550

    New Hampshire Union Leader Endorses John McCain

    “Barack Obama has no experience — none. He may be the most unprepared major-party candidate ever. His own vice presidential pick says our enemies will test him quickly and severely. There is no good reason to take that chance.” Joseph W. McQuaid, New Hampshire Union Leader

    “America’s choice this Tuesday”
    Editorial
    By Joseph W. McQuaid
    New Hampshire Union Leader
    November 2, 2008

    This presidential election comes down, as they often do, to trust. We must trust the person’s competence, courage and ability to defend us from our enemies and to fight for the best economic conditions possible.

    In both areas, John McCain stands head and shoulders above his rival. McCain has been tested as few men ever have, and he has never been found wanting. Barack Obama has no experience — none. He may be the most unprepared major-party candidate ever. His own vice presidential pick says our enemies will test him quickly and severely. There is no good reason to take that chance.

    Those who believe Obama’s claims that he will reduce 95 percent of Americans’ taxes, while he pays for near-universal health care, subsidizes clean energy, expands our military commitment in Afghanistan, adds to mass transit and highway infrastructure, etc., etc., are living in a dream world.

    Fortunately, there seem to be fewer and fewer dreamers every day, as the polls tighten and people begin to really look at all the promises Obama has made.

    John McCain promises us only his hard work and integrity, his experience and true grit, and a solid faith and optimism in America. In our view, that makes him the clear choice for the independent, thoughtful people of New Hampshire.

    Read The Editorial

  • http://www.governuts.us Agust304

    My wife and I have been some of the biggest oppoenents of mountaintop removal coal mining – where entire mountaintops are blown away. So far over 600 mountains in KY and WV have disappeared and over 1,100 miles of streams have been buried.

    But we understand that coal generates 50% of the power (the electricity that turns on your computer) in America. We know that, until alternate technology is developed, coal will continue to pollute our air. Our fight has been about the method used in extracting it. If you are going to take it, go underground and do not blow up the entire mountain.

    The coal mining and power producing industries will not allow themselves to go bankrupt. The electric delivery companies will not stop buying electricity form their top providers. The only thing that will happen under Obama’s 0 cap system is that the cost of electricity will go up faster and higher than the cost of gas. That is why T. Boone and other speculators are buying up natural gas rights across the country.

    That is my yelp on the coal part of his statement. The part of his statement that irritates me the most is his use of the word bankrupt. The idea of a potential leader talking about bankrupting an industry is outrageous. That is like saying that: “I propose everyone go to work on bicycles. Therefore I will impose a tax on carmakers that will but them out of business, so people won’t have a choice.”

    I hope all his talk is just pandering to the person or audience he was addressing at the time, and not real beliefs.

    If he really believes his own words, and the Pelosi-Reid duo back his odd-ball plans, then the world economy is about to go in the tank and the only nations left standing will be the ones who produce more food than they consume.

    Coal is bad for the environment. So is oil. But we don’t wake up one day and say we will never buy another drop of oil from those who drill. We work our way out of our dependence, just like any addict.

    • MG-PUMA

      Sorry to say, but I think Obama’s beliefs on coal as he stated in San Francisco are the real deal. Remember, he was a law professor.

      Recall the spotted-owl situation in the Pacific Northwest which was later proved to be a hoax. But not until after 125 thousand people lost their jobs in forestry and related industries. Permanently.

      It can happen again.

      MG-PUMA

  • Lindsy

    What’s with Drudge’s Messiah like picture of Obama front and center?

    Has he crossed over into koolaide land as well?

    • ginaswo

      maybe he is trying to scare us to GOTV

    • KenNOhio

      Drudge has been linking all the negative sh*t he can find on Barack the last 5 days. THis picture is just another submliminal to get out and vote and defeat That One….

    • Shiloh

      It is pure mocking of Obama that’s what.

    • Lee Ruth

      Yep! He crossed over several months ago. Are you just now noticing?

  • MattsMarie

    I wondered about something today–are the fake new voter registrations from Acorn affecting the polls? Here is my reasoning:

    1. Pollsters stratify their sampling to account for voter registration levels.

    2. After reading a few news accounts, it seems that Acorn was turning in about 5% total fake registrations.

    Could it be that at least some of the lead we are seeing in most polls in favor of Obama could be that the pollsters are using the new signup rate for Dems as reported by Acorn? If so, they could be over sampling Dems by about 5% which would skew the polls unrealistically.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?

  • Lester

    The Investor’s Business Daily TIPP tracking poll released today shows Obama with 46.7% and McCain at 44.6% — just 2 points separate them!

    Remember, this poll was the most accurate poll in the 2004 election.

    The poll also shows that almost 9% of voters remain unsure. We believe this is incredible news.

    Contrary to what the media and Obama want you believe, this election has yet to be decided.

    The American people don’t want a president who was once Rev. Wright’s best friend.

  • bayareavoter

    The thing that bothers me more than anything about this comment about bankrupting the coal industry–that’s just NOT how presidents or real leaders talk. It’s disturbing on many levels to hear him say this.

    I hate to say this but it is SOOOO ELITIST for him to not recognize how many lives would be affected with this kind of policy.

    There should be a “moon program” mentality from our government about the quest for new energy solutions but his comment is despicable. The economy could get a huge boost if there was a new Silicon Valley for energy research!

    • Peggy Sue

      Whoever said Obama was a real leader beyond Axelrod and the Obamatrons? Would a real leader talk about the working class of Pennsylvania as bitter folks clinging to their guns and Bibles?

      A social scientist, perhaps. An academic researcher studying “those primitive folks” in the back woods.

      Elitist?

      Of course, it’s elitist. It’s the sort of conversation you might have with your colleagues at a swanky university over brie and chardonnay. It’s the sort of commentary that’s completely removed from the flesh and blood people of any region. It’s condescending and snotty. And Obama never apologized for those comments. Instead, he got defensive and said “everyone knows that, everyone knows that is right.”

      Sorry, Senator. Take it up with the residents of Pa. They didn’t like those comments and they sure aren’t fond of being called racists, or no wait, ignorant or no, no . . . rednecks by John Murtha.

      It’s hitting the fan now. It should have come much sooner!

      • Liberty Belle not for Obama

        His mother was an anthropologist (among other things – agnostic? Marxist?). The detached, academic view seems to run in his family.

  • 10,000 days

    of course if you step past your delusions, you would see that Mccain has proposed the EXACT SAME PLAN. he has said he’s for emission caps, and wants to invest in clean coal technology:

    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccains_call_for_emissions_cap.php

    We will cap emissions according to specific goals, measuring progress by reference to past carbon emissions. By the year 2012, we will seek a return to 2005 levels of emission, by 2020, a return to 1990 levels, and so on until we have achieved at least a reduction of sixty percent below 1990 levels by the year 2050. In the course of time, it may be that new ideas and technologies will come along that we can hardly imagine today, allowing all industries to change with a speed that will surprise us. More likely, however, there will be some companies that need extra emissions rights, and they will be able to buy them. The system to meet these targets and timetables will give these companies extra time to adapt – and that is good economic policy. It is also a matter of simple fairness, because the cap-and-trade system will create jobs, improve livelihoods, and strengthen futures across our country.

    … but dont listen to me. i’m just a troll.

    • 10,000 days

      no responses? i figured as much.

    • ginaswo

      buy them troll not price fix the costs so high that it will bankrupt hem or cut usage by levels that reduce the standard of living for the entire middle class

      you are really a bunch of maroons who just repeat talking points arent you? if you werent you would have known the answer to your talking point question..

      go to sleep little obot, we will wake you after Election Day, dream happy dreams while you can, cause when you wake up, it will be to a MAC/PALIN win :0)

      • 10,000 days

        obviously you haven no idea how Carbon credits work, so this is a lost cause. it’s based on the amount of pollution. anything over the cap, and you have to for everything beyond that, and since coal plant makes an assload of pollution… well, i hope figure out the answer to that one.

    • jbjd

      I could not care less whether you are a troll. I want to respond to your comments.

      Based on the links provided on this site, I find these are the major differences between those views expressed by the BO/JB ticket vs. the JMc/SP ticket regarding the continued use of coal as a major source of domestic energy.

      BO wants to eliminate the use of coal by charging an exorbitantly high price for pollution offsets, which will bankrupt both existing and new coal plants. However, he is not, in principle, opposed to the use of coal and so, before the companies go under, he would use at least some portion of the revenues from these high offset charges to explore new technology that could possible result in the clean use of coal. JB promised no new coal plants would be built in this country and, any derivatives from coal imported into this country could only be purchased from companies burning clean coal.

      JMc wants to gradually decrease pollution from coal to specific previous levels according to specific time lines. To accomplish this, he would impose charges on pollution to increase over that time, so as to encourage coal producers to explore alternative technologies to reduce pollution. In the meantime, these producers could also purchase carbon credits from other carbon emitting businesses.

      Finally, while BO hid for the past 10 months his real intentions viz a viz decimating the coal industry; JMc has made reducing carbon emission from coal part of his well-publicized comprehensive energy plan.

    • johnqpublic

      he said his plan would go “further” than any other cap and trade. he said 100% of emisions would be regulated and charged massive penalty. some of you liberals please tell me how you can get down to 0% of emisions from even the clean coal plants. it is imposible and coal plants would close. you fools say no big deal, right!!!. we now get 49% of our electricity for homes from coal. you power bill will go up big time under this plan and there will be massive brown outs. but maybe that is what you guys want, i guess

  • Barry bums a ciggie

    This is what I got from the Colorado McCain’s office:

    What is it about San Francisco that makes Barack Obama so amazingly honest about his disdain for rural Americans and their way of life? First, it was the site where he labeled rural voters as “bitter” because they value their religion and their Second Amendment rights.

    Now, in a newly released audio recording, Barack Obama makes clear that the coal industry will be “bankrupt” if they build more coal plants in America.

    OBAMA: “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.” (Interview with San Francisco Chronicle 01/17/08)

    VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

    FLASHBACK JOE BIDEN: “No coal plants here in America. Build them, if they’re going to build them over there make ‘em clean because they’re killing you.” (Joe Biden, Remarks, Maumee, OH, 09/17/08)

    VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ55UzAsp6M

    Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry

    By P.J. Gladnick
    http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

    • evgenia

      What is it about San Francisco that makes Barack Obama so amazingly honest about his disdain for rural Americans and their way of life? First, it was the site where he labeled rural voters as “bitter” because they value their religion and their Second Amendment rights.

      Obama feels comfortable here in SF where our current mayor Gavin Newsome, view by many as the most liberal mayor of the most liberal city, ran for his first term as the CONSERVATIVE candidate. The political climate here makes it easy for Obama to really open up and show us his true beliefs. Radical political viewpoints on either ends of the spectrum are fostered by environments which condone and support them. That’s why I think Obama subconsciously slips up whenever he comes here, he’s so giddy to be surrounded by like-minded thinkers, sycophants, and minions that he goes off his fake, mainstream message. Maybe he should’ve visited SF more.

      • Barry bums a ciggie

        I know exactly what you mean, I used to live in San Mateo, CA. My friends in SF really do think the price of arugula has spiral out of control at Whole Foods, sheesh. I look back and think, was I really like that?

    • apishapa

      Well, this will really cause some damage to Tri State Generation since they intend to build either a coal plant or a nuclear power plant in Holly, Colorado (my hometown). This area also has one of the largest windfarms in the country. Colorado does its share of green power generation.

  • The Robot

    Better late than never — I do hope this “bankrupt coal” message from the One is saturating the markets of all those bitter, clinging people.

    My feeling is, the people of OH, PA, VA, NC, know BO is a fraud who despises them – and they are about to shut him down.

  • moi61537

    If Obama did not have these nefarious associations w/ despicable PLO members, Iraqis, Syrians, came from a Muslim family, went to grade school in Indonesia, might have been partially funded by the Saudis, I might think his desire to bankrupt coal companies was an effort to clean the environment. However, he does have those and does not mention efforts to get China to improve its coal burning. So, we won’t be able to burn coal, drill for oil, build more nuclear plants and there is not grid capacity to transmit eletricity from solar and wind farms, where do we get generating power? Petroleum from Chavez and the Saudis? Or is that part of the plan to let the US wither and die?

    • ginaswo

      well we know PELOSI is HEAVILY invested in T Boone Pickens fund and Chicago is called the little middle east, and Exelon, daddy Ayers company is heavily funding Obummer..al sammarae and the electric co in Iraq

      yeah lots of energy swirling around there

      Obummer also voted FOR the Cheney energy buffet of pork, so I suggest he has HEAVY ties to energy and all sorts of nefarious motives, basically to kill the middle class and weaken us

      • MMI

        If you ask Pickens, I think he will tell you he thinks Obama’s plan to destroy the coal industry is wrong. He favors domestic sources of energy, including coal.

        Pelosi doesn’t know what she supports. Look at her on FISA. Whatever Obama wants, he will get from Pelosi and Reid.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Exactly. If you know anything about OIL, which most voters sadly don’t, then you have to ask yourself why OHitler’s energy plan ultimately will keep us dependent on his Arab pals for a way longer time. It’s so obvious that I can’t believe the OBummer freaks don’t get it.

      • MMI

        We need energy. If Obama destroys the coal industry, one of the domestic sources of energy we have, then where will we make up for it in the immediate future except by importing oil and gas from foreign countries? This will kill thousands of jobs, and the increase in energy cost will hurt consumers and businesses. It will also place this nation at the mercy of foreign governments that want to hurt us.

  • athena

    AND…..the polls showed Kerry up on ELECTION DAY. Last I checked we were not saying “President Kerry”.

    • J.J. (The PUMA)

      Wait. Kerry lost ????

  • Lindsy

    Unfortunately the coal story is coming out too late and is getting NO prominent MSM coverage. Like everything else with Obama it won’t stick.

    • hillary012

      it won’t because John Mccain also supports caps on emissions. pursuing this is not a good idea, as it can blow up in his face, just like the Ayers thing.

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        I don’t see talking about BANKRUPTING business the same as reasonable caps on emissions. By the time any nuance is explored the election will be over. We’ll see how this plays out tomorrow. Its the language Der Precious used that is devastating and that is what people will hear and remember on Tuesday.

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          From America’s Right…I think Jeff explains it perfectly regarding McCain’s position as well.

          Sunday, November 2, 2008

          Obama’s War on Capitalism

          “So, if someone wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
          It’s just that it will bankrupt them.”

          Once again, thanks this time to NewsBusters.com, we see the disdain for capitalism, the hatred of American industrial strength, and the overall contempt for America and everything for which She stands which is at the heart of Barack Obama’s worldview and ideological perspective.

          We’ve known for a while that Barack Obama advocates a cap-and-trade system designed to punish industry, but what we’re seeing now is the motivation behind such a policy. We’ve known for a while that Barack Obama intends to draw down the military and spread America’s wealth (see, for example, his Global Poverty Act), but what we’re seeing now is the intent behind the ideology.

          Obama’s statements in an interview used by the San Francisco Chronicle for a January 18, 2008 piece–of course, the paper makes no mention of Obama’s hope to bankrupt the coal industry–belie his superficially centrist and relatively innocuous campaign trail approach:

          What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.

          I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

          So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

          The problem with cap-and-trade legislation as a whole is that it provides business and industry with an incentive to either set up shop outside of the United States or move existing operations elsewhere, perhaps to India or China which pollute more than we do yet have no such regulations. Here, however, this has direct consequences not just on business and industry, but on our economy and national security as a whole.

          We need to be energy independent. Even Obama, in his soaring rhetoric with promises of a ten-year plan, says that energy independence is paramount. Our national security depends upon it. Our economic health and well-being depends upon it. Yet he refuses to drill offshore where it matters, he refuses to drill in ANWR, he refuses to explore the possibilities surrounding shale oil, and he holds the coal-power industry in utter contempt.

          When he does speak about energy, he makes no sense. He says that filling our tires and having regular tune-ups will increase gas mileage and somehow eliminate our need for Middle Eastern oil. He says that nuclear power is great, but we can’t build more plants until we deal with a number of environmental issues. He even said, according to HotAir.com, that he wants a 15% reduction across the board in America’s demand for electricity, yet in the same breath says that he wants to force the transition to electricity, in vehicles and more, from gasoline. I guess he believes we can hope for more energy to appear out of nowhere; perhaps, we can produce biofuels from the excrement coming from the collective mouths of the political left.

          Now, Obama supporters may be quick to respond that John McCain also supports cap-and-trade legislation. Indeed he does. Indeed, his McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Act of 2003, the piece of legislation he said, in the second debate, was unfortunately not passed, is yet another example of a short-sighted, half-hearted and misguided plan which would adversely affect the American economy in the name of the unsettled science of and facade for socialism which is Global Warming. Still, even though this issue is one of many with which I do not see eye-to-eye with the Arizona senator, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here because nothing suggests to me that his maverick-ish will to help the environment at all costs is born from the abhorrence of capitalism and the free market.

          You’d think, at this point, it would be abundantly clear that a Barack Obama administration would mean nothing short of economic disaster for this nation. You’d think that the American people, hearing something as simply put as his intention to “spread the wealth,” would wake up and smell the socialism. Between his goal of raising capital gains taxes for the sake of “fairness,” to his plan to increase corporate taxes and hope that nobody loses their job, to his aspirations for a bankrupt coal-power industry and more, America will be lucky to emerge from four years of President Barack Obama with the economic strength and foreign policy clout of a western European nation.

          Then again, knowing what we know about Obama and his perspective on America’s greatness, that might be exactly what he wants.

          • jbjd

            I previously posted a link to a Youtube video of BO praising JMc and Lieberman for their energy proposal but, the video is no longer available.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      Lets see what happens tomorrow. Don’t expect too much to happen on a Sunday.

      • athena

        Palin is mentioning it at every rally today and probably tommorrow. It may not be in the “MSM” but word of mouth and internet are pretty powerful!

    • ginaswo

      I hear the braying of an EEyore

      buck up kiddo

      MAC/PALIN will win

      oh yes!!!!

      W00T!!!!

      • Shiloh

        Lindsy is not an eeyore, she is a bot troll. When she says nothing will stick, that’s not a prediction it’s a prayer. Seems to me everything is sticking – all at once!

        • rw

          I agree, slow erosion effect. Each nefarious association, each comment against an electorate group, each time they change the middle class income level, each attack on Palin…is a loss in votes…a gradual loss to the point that not even voter fraud will save him. Polosi, Reid, Brazile, etc cannot undemocratically cheat McCain of electorate delegates. These ain’t the primaries, Barry.

        • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

          Seems to me everything is sticking – all at once!

          Just like it did in the major primaries that proved Hillary was electable. America does not want that farking elitist piece of sheet Opampers.

    • cookiegramma

      It actually might stick where it matters. Both the Ohio coal Association http://www.ohiocoal.com
      and the west virginia coal companies have already either released statements about this or posted the information at websites. With Sarah Palin talking about it on the stump it has gotten some coverage on Fox as well. Look at it this way, Obama never really recovered in time from the bitter comments he made in SF and now he has only 2 days to try and fix this . Do you think that will be enough time before the election?

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        Look at it this way, Obama never really recovered in time from the bitter comments he made in SF and now he has only 2 days to try and fix this . Do you think that will be enough time before the election?

        Exactly what I was just saying. High five to ya!

      • J.J. (The PUMA)

        Nice touch by the Ohio Coal Association.

        Obama to Coal Industry…..”Drop Dead”.

    • Geo

      PA has no early VOTING?

      Everyone in PA is all over the COAL STORY. COAL is in their DNA.

      By Tuesday PA will be ready to CRUSH Obama and Murtha

  • Tricia

    SARAH PALIN SAID ABOUT THE COAL ISSUE TONIGHT IN OHIO IT IS REPORTED ON DRUDGE

    • Peggy Sue

      Sarah Palin jumped right on this meme. Why? For someone wanting the votes in the Coal Belt, telling voters you’re going to bankrupt the industry and do hatchet work on 200,000 jobs, this is toxic stuff. Particularly in areas that have been hurting economically.

      A $500 check doesn’t cut it. And he lied flatout. Again! And then, we’re suppose to accept skyrocketing electric bills. Pul-e-ese.

      Alan Colmes is trying to defend the comments. Laughable!

  • Bush’sdog

    So far nothing from the MSM!!!

  • imustprotest

    Here’s some news Coal miners heard about the remarks and are upset:

    Coal-miners are outraged: http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obama-comments-unbelievable

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      Troll and MSM spin teams won’t be able to spin and contain this, which is why it is coming out last minute. :shock:

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        Spinning is already beginning. The spin is the recording was not “hidden.” The coal miners and economies that depend on coal won’t care about this nuance. It is what Obama said and in fact the MSM ignored this so it was “hidden” so to speak. ;) I was unaware of this recording as were most people here I would imagine.

        Ignore the spin. It is what Der Precious said. Period.

        • Peggy Sue

          I understand the officials at the Charleston W.Va Obama office has stopped answering their phones and flood of emails.

          Guess they’re in the backroom spinning a more “refined” response.

          Like: Holy shit! How did that get out?????

          • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

            Mac and the GOP really caught them off guard. Jolly good show! :mrgreen:

        • imustprotest

          Try this action posted at TEAM SARAH:

          ***ACTION : ***** United Mike Workers of America — Fairfax VA — Phone: 703-208-7200 — TAKE 1 MINUTE TO CALL THEM TOMORROW

  • Barry bums a ciggie

    One WV official in the industry took noticed today.

    Coal official calls Obama comments ‘unbelievable’

    11/2/2008 4:37 PM
    By Chris Dickerson -Statehouse Bureau

    Obama

    McCain
    CHARLESTON – At least one state coal industry leader said he was shocked by comments Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made earlier this year concerning his plan to aggressively charge polluters for carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.
    (snip)
    “I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal,” Ben Beakes said Sunday. “Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters – that’s what we have to take as gospel.

    “They’re definitely not friends of coal.”

    http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obama-comments-unbelievable

  • SJ

    Well the media is trying to spin this as old news so CNN says and now SF Com is saying Palin fell for fabricated news from shady News busters website I tell you what is wrong with these media people?

    The fact is he gave the interviews, he did say what he had to say, maybe it was overlooked by the Clinton Camp and the McCain camp but that does not make it untrue, maybe McCain camp miss it but its out there now that is a fact.

    Why is it every time there is a issue over something Obama says or does its as if people are out to get him, he instantly becomes the victim, this is a dangerous road we are heading down as a country, no website, media house or anyone with be ever able to question this man’s actions or statements and we will all be blamed for this.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      The spin will get drowned out by overall story.

  • KenNOhio

    Bottom line. Mac is within the margin of error on the IBD poll. I went to CNN’s election results from 2004 and McCain is doing better than Bush did in every secor except for women. The reason Bush did so well with women? Security Mom’s. Baracks campaign and the economy has kept the security issue off the table almost entirely. If McCain was doing better with women this would not even be close..

    I wonder what pct. make up the undecided. Male v. Female. My guess 60-40 male. That is why McCain is picking up moe as the undecideds make up their mind.

    Finally, I have felt all along that if McCain was within 2 points by eDay he would win. I think we are there. It now comes down to turnout. Which side is more motivated to stand in line….We all need to bring at least 1 more voter to the poll that may not have otherwise gone…

    McCain / Palin 08

    • Barry bums a ciggie

      I remember Juan Williams saying about 3 weeks ago that Barry needed to be in the double digit lead over McCain to feel truly confident of a win. Anything less than 8, he’s in trouble. Funny how he doesn’t want to state that again. I don’t care how many polls they throw out there that Barry will win, the only polls that matter are the ones people vote in.

      Stay alert with voter fraud. I am planning to take along my camcorder to catch any funny business at the polls in Denver, CO.

      • Lee Ruth

        Every polling place should be running a camera full time. It should be announced that a camera is in use and that voter fraud will be prosecuted. This is the only way to keep the voting halfway honest.

  • athena

    Look at the numbers going up on viewers. It has gone up over 30,000 in less than 5 minutes! This is hot and people are taking note – spread the word.

  • athena

    I was referring to the posted video.

  • IronMan

    Hillary Clinton Pennsylvania Primary Victory Speech

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQaaPzTx5I&feature=related

    Madam President Hillary Clinton in 2012!!

    Let’s make it happen Pennsylvania!!

    Country First!!

    McCain-Palin ’08
    Hillary ’12

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie
  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

    As of the time I am posting this 14 news stories on Web and only one headline is obvious spin trying to help Der Precious.

  • Latina

    Hannity is talking now about the coal Industry and is breaking the news about Obama plan

    • Artemis

      Hannity played the tape of Obama promising to bankrupt the coal industry and Pat Caddell was flabbergasted. I think this is going to make a huge difference in PA & Ohio & Missouri!!!!

    • Peggy Sue

      Yes, Fox is covering it now and I guarantee this story will be running and running all day tomorrow on Fox.

      And like it or not, they have a very viewership. Talk radio will also run with it tomorrow. The word will get out and people will not like the “nuance.”

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        They won’t even be aware of the nuance. Did Der Precious really think we would let his scrawny ass waltz into the oval office with ease?

        • Peggy Sue

          Looks that way, Galt. I agree. Ordinary folks don’t care about “nuance.” They regard that as flim-flam. Give it up straight or stop trying is what most of the people I grew up expect.

          This coal statement was incredibly dumb!

  • SJ

    Joe The Plumber Ambushed In Ohio
    Opposing Plumbers Shout At Republican Darling

    Sunday, November 2, 2008 – updated: 9:04 pm EST November 2, 2008
    The man known to the country as Joe The Plumber was ambushed at a campaign event in Ohio Sunday.

    WLWT in Cincinnati reported that Joe Wurzelbacher made a campaign appearance with U.S. Rep. Steve Chabot, R – Ohio, and a group of plumbers who support Chabot’s opponent approached Wurzelbacher.

    Video shows how one plumber lost his cool and started taunting Wurzelbacher.

    “Hey, Joe, get a license. Joe, get a license! Joe, get a license! Pay your taxes. Pay your taxes,” the man yelled as a couple dozen people looked on.

    a Chabot supporter ended up shoving the yelling protester out of the way and the two had to be separated by others, WLWT reported.

    No one was hurt or arrested.

    • cookiegramma

      just shows what a bunch of of jack a**es some members of my former party can be.

    • Peggy Sue

      Look at the wording of the headline–it gives you the editorial slant: Republican Darling.

      They have tried to bring this guy down for two-weeks. What Obamatrons don’t get is the more you savage Joe the Plumber, the angrier people get. Joe the Plumber is an ordinary citizen who had the temerity to ask “The One” a question. The answer was stupid and revealing. You don’t get to “vet” private citizens because when you do? You look like thugs.

      • Kato

        I’ve been wondering who Obama would throw under the bus next week when he doesn’t win. I think I have my answer. It will be Joe the Plumber, we the people.

  • cookiegramma

    The two audios are on hannity and colmes right now.

  • IronMan

    Hannity on LIVE now on FOX!!

    Hannity exposing Obama on this very issue and playing the tape!!

    WOOOHOOO!!!

  • Queenie

    I am in South Jersey and we get NY and Philly TV..the Philly stations are showing the Reverend Wright ” G damned America ” commerical every other commerical almost..I have seen it 4 times in the past hour!!..So it is infiltrating Pa and Jersey!!

    I love it!!

    I have even donated!!..seriously!!

    It is nice to say..I see my money going to good use!!

    If you are so inclined..here is a link to donate..they are flooding the PA airwaves!! And South Jersey too!!

    **I am going to keep posting this admin in case others want to donate to keep these ads going!!

    https://secure.yourpatriot.com/ou/tnrt/the_national_republican_trust_/donate.aspx

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      Ah dear old Reverend Wright Der Precious’ pastor, mentor and friend, the gift that keeps on giving. :shock:

    • Peggy Sue

      I’m originally from South Jersey, Queenie. What’s the mood of the electorate in the area? I know my own friends and family are crossing over to Johnny Mac this year. But what’s the take in the region as a whole? It’s always been Deep Blue.

    • J.J. (The PUMA)

      Where is Reverend Wright in Colorado? I haven’t seen the commercial once. Are the people who are running this ad going “All In” on Pennsylvania, and figuring that Colorado is too much of a longshot??

  • imustprotest

    Try this action posted at TEAM SARAH:

    ***ACTION : ***** United Mike Workers of America — Fairfax VA — Phone: 703-208-7200 — TAKE 1 MINUTE TO CALL THEM TOMORROW

  • EightBelles

    The air in San Francisco seems to hold the same properties for Barack Obama as truth serum for the human mind. Too bad we couldn’t have detained BO in SF for weeks on end in order to uncover the pure unadulterated truth about this man and his plan for America. I love San Francisco! Only strangely when on the West Coast I’m the same person as when on the East Coast. I’m sure that is true of virtually everyone of us with exception to the chameleon candidate Barack Obama. What you see with this candidate on the West Coast may not necessarily be what you get on the East Coast and God only knows what that translates to for places inbetween. Let the buyer beware.

    • J.J. (The PUMA)

      Two questions for those of you with a higher drug I.Q. than I have.

      1. Does “Blow” make you more likely to tell the truth?

      2. Is “Blow” easier to get in San Francisco than it is in the Hyde Park District of Chicago?

      • evgenia

        Speaking as someone who has never done any types of illegal drugs, and as a student of pharmacology, I can say that yes, side effects of cocaine usage include among other things, clarity of thought, euphoria, and feelings of invincibility. It does this by altering the neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin in the brain. If Obama was a habitual user and not a recreational user of cocaine, his brain may have been permanently re-hardwired to respond in unpredictable ways, hence the occasional truthful outbursts of his real beliefs.

        On the second question, “blow” is in fact very easily procurable from certain neighborhoods and streets in SF. I’ve personally seen transactions up and down Mission Street, it’s kinda acceptable because people here are IMO overly tolerant of recreational drug use.

  • MMI

    The press has lied to us, withheld information from us, and sanitized information, in a calculated, cynical campaign to get Obama elected. The press have abandoned it’s role as the fourth branch of government, abusing the unique free speech protections our founding fathers granted it to enable a candidate who is antagonistic towards many freedoms, including the freedom of speech.

    A soviet dissident’s observation of the American media:

    What sort of responsibility does a journalist have to his readers, or to history? If they have misled public opinion or the government by inaccurate information or wrong conclusions, do we know of any cases of public recognition and rectification of such mistakes by the same journalist or the same newspaper? No, it does not happen, because it would damage sales. A nation may be the victim of such a mistake, but the journalist always gets away with it….

    The press can both simulate public opinion and miseducate it. Thus we may see terrorists heroized, or secret matters, pertaining to one’s nation’s defense, publicly revealed, or we may witness shameless intrusion on the privacy of well-known people under the slogan: “everyone is entitled to know everything”…..

    Such as it is, however, the press has become the greatest power within the Western countries, more powerful than the legislature, the executive and the judiciary. One would then like to ask: by what law has it been elected and to whom is it responsible? In the communist East a journalist is frankly appointed as a state official. But who has granted Western journalists their power, for how long a time and with what prerogatives?

    There is yet another surprise for someone coming from the East where the press is rigorously unified: one gradually discovers a common trend of preferences within the Western press as a whole. It is a fashion; there are generally accepted patterns of judgment and there may be common corporate interests, the sum effect being not competition but unification. Enormous freedom exists for the press, but not for the readership because newspapers mostly give enough stress and emphasis to those opinions which do not too openly contradict their own and the general trend.

    Without any censorship, in the West fashionable trends of thought and ideas are carefully separated from those which are not fashionable; nothing is forbidden, but what is not fashionable will hardly ever find its way into periodicals or books or be heard in colleges. Legally your researchers are free, but they are conditioned by the fashion of the day. There is no open violence such as in the East; however, a selection dictated by fashion and the need to match mass standards frequently prevent independent-minded people from giving their contribution to public life. There is a dangerous tendency to form a herd, shutting off successful development…..This gives birth to strong mass prejudices, blindness, which is most dangerous in our dynamic era. There is, for instance, a self-deluding interpretation of the contemporary world situation. It works as a sort of petrified armor around people’s minds….It will only be broken by the pitiless crowbar of events.

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn 1978

  • Lynn

    The scariest thing to me about “The One’s” comments is the fact that he used the term “bankrupt”. He’s talking about bankrupting a major industry. Whether you are a fan of the coal industry or not – this should be raising some major flags! What industry will be next? People to need to listen to what this man says?! On almost every issue he has multiple stances depending on who he’s talking to.

    • Peggy Sue

      And that’s the whole point, Lynn. When you stand for everything, you stand for nothing. Pandering may have worked before mass exposure and the internet. But everything these men and women say is open to examination and analyses and endless loops.

      Obama is a goldmine of wobbling positions and ring around the rosey explanations.

      The fact he hasn’t been called on most of these gaffes and shifting pronouncements is amazing.

    • cookiegramma

      Funny you should ask that question. A tape has also been found (sorry, didn’t think I would need the ip address) where he discusses cuts to the agricultire industry and everyone has heard about his good buddy barney Franks comments about cutting the military machine back by a quarter. Have I missed anything?

      • baby-puppy

        Yeh, you missed BO’s comments about the founding fathers screwing up (my words) the Constitution of the United States.

  • Troy

    An Obot on LIVE RADIO says he wants Joe the plumber dead.

    KOG San Francisco / ABC News Radio

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym0nyGyhjxw&eurl=http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/

    • Peggy Sue

      So, another Obamatron proves himself a thug. Hope Joe the Plumber is armed and has big doggies for protection.

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        Joe is a folk hero now and was just what Mac needed. And courtesy of that idiot Obama. :shock:

  • McHope

    Here are a few email contacts from Coal Information websites.
    jgellici@americancoalcouncil.org,jhayes@americancoalcouncil.org,tcoffer@americancoalcouncil.org,mrubin@americancoalcouncil.org,information@accci.org,ieapressoffice@iea.org ,coalwebinfo@iea.org ,ra-govnews@state.pa.us ,info@worldcoal.org

  • pewlf

    Hannity’s America,quoted Obama saying that electricity prices will sky rocket,under his plan…

    I sure hope all the coal States are listening…This quote from Obama,is being played on Fox News..What other news organization,is showing this to the American people?

    • Troy

      Get ready to faint, but NBC aired the clip in OHIO!!!!

      • Peggy Sue

        NBC actually aired the clip in Ohio???? OMG. Miracles will never cease! I’ll look forward to the reaction. Wonder if I’ll hear the profanities down here in the Smoky Mountains?

        Hahahah.

  • Cynthia

    I got a robocall a few hours ago from the McCain campaign. It said how important the coal industry was to our community and then played Obama’s quote. I’m in Northeast PA.

    • J.J. (The PUMA)

      Make my day!! Can’t believe I am cheering Republican Robo calls.

  • cookiegramma

    Those Obots are working overtime to anger the McCain supporters of late. There is a post over at chicagoagainstobama that claims an Obama win and they will only set fire to cars, but a loss and they will burn buildings. Either way I’m thinking they had better have the money for a good attorney. Obama cannot help them since he does not have a license to practise law any more.

  • Charles Lemos

    This actually would give me a reason to vote for Obama, not against him. We need to get off coal and fast. Nonetheless, I’m going with Nader/Gonzalez.

    How many of you are Democrats? Honestly.

    • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

      Most here either are or were Democrats that now support McCain because we feel he is the best choice.

    • Queenie

      I am..and still am..I will do everything i can to stop this coup of Obama and the current seat warmers destroying my party!

      In fact I was a former elected Dem Delegate for my state of Florida in 2004.

      Oh and I had my vote stolen in this years primary by Obama and his operatives..

      ..and then again on the floor of this years convention!

      You can not steal my vote and my democracy and then think for a minute you will get my vote in the General Election!

      Obama is a thug and a crook and a snake oil salesman who stole his Non-nomination!

      Oh and PS i was a volunteer in Iowa and South carlonia ..i saw the stealing of the primary election first hand.

      I will never ever support or vote for Obama..and his den of thieves!

      I already voted in Fla for McCain? Palin..i know damn well who McCain is..

      No one knows who the hell Obama is ..other than a thief! and a crook!

      Queenie..a democratic member of the DEC who will do everything I can to stop this Coup de Tete! And take my party back from Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, Pelosi, Harry Reid..and the rest of the crooks who stole my vote!

      • Queenie

        opps typo..South Carolina

    • MMI

      ROFL, now I understand where your fervor for the bailout came from.

      Did you really study economics? Honestly.

  • pewlf
  • http://deleted Buzz McLatte

    Registered Democrat here and there’s NO WAY I will or five other Dems in my family will vote for Obama.

    Just to satisfy your curiosity.

    • J.J. (The PUMA)

      Proud Democrat here. Voted straight Democrat down ticket.

      Since I am not currently, nor ever have been, a member of a cult, I did not vote for Obama.

      As for Nader, his ego trip in 2000 gave us 8 years of Bush.

      • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

        Nader takes away Obama votes BUT it would be better if everyone opposed to Obama voted for Mac.

  • Obama bin Biden

    Here’s a link to the other part of that interview, as referenced on H&C. I didn’t see this posted anywhere and took a little time to track it down. Maybe we can get it embedded on the front page?

    http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

  • http://www.myspace.com/isomer_69 LAUREN

    I think this coal thingy interview Oblahblah did with the San Francisco Chronicle will cost him the election. Pennsylvania doesn’t have early voting.

    • MMI

      Thank you for this news. It’s great that a lot of people will be voting only after learning this. I think this will also increase voter turnout.

  • USAPROUD

    JUST CURIOUS…If a person has already vote absentee, can they go to the polls and change their vote…I bet alot of people would like to change their vote from Obama to McCain.

    • MMI

      No. Once you freely send in your ballot, you cannot change your vote.

  • Geo

    You mean he is going to BaracK the Coal Plants.

  • Sara

    Has McCain ran this ad in the swing states yet?

  • Clara Barton

    It’s being covered by Fox this morning and I believe I heard it last night as well. We have to hope that someone in a coalminers family watches Fox and spreads the word in the community. It’s much larger than just PA, OH and CO. Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and KY could be impacted too and Mac needs VA and IN in his column.

  • Leslie

    New Obama Shock Audio

    Another jaw-dropping clip from the SF Chronicle/Gate “coal” interview:

    Obama: “Under my plan of a Cap & Trade system ELECTRICITY RATES WOULD NECESSARILY SKYROCKET”

    http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

    Bankrupting Coal is only part of his grand scheme.

    Obama’s advocating “skyrocketing” electrical rates is another that affects everyone: every household, every business.

    And it spells economic disaster for the US economy as this plan would be unilateral. Other countries would not be affected and will be much more competitive vs. the cost of US-produced goods with sky-high energy costs, artificially inflated by the extreme anti-global warming Obama Cap, Trade, & Redistribute plan.

    Please listen and spread this around.

    http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

  • Sara

    Could someone post this ad on Fox as a comment? I forgoat my username and can’t log in. This way it can reach more people.

  • Howard

    Obama’s social experiment … or, should I say Socialist experiment, will bring America to it’s knees! America has more coal than any other country in the world. Coal is one of America’s greatest natural resources, and our most abundant source of fuel. Our economy and our National Security is extremely intertwined with coal. We should be supporting and promoting clean coal. The thought that Obama would possibly bankrupt our coal industry is scary. Obama’s 20 year history of embracing radical ideas, radical people and radical change to our country allows this candidate with virtually no experience, to gamble with our constitution, our economy, our national security, and our future. Keep America safe and prosperous, … Elect McCain/Palin on November 4th !!!

  • “Clean coal” is an oxymoron

    According to a report released by Greenpeace in May, 2008:

    Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) cannot deliver in time to avoid dangerous climate change. The earliest possibility for deployment of CCS at utility scale is not expected before 2030. To avoid the worst impacts of climate change, global greenhouse gas emissions have to start falling after 2015, just seven years away.

    CCS wastes energy. The technology uses between 10 and 40% of the energy produced by a power station. Wide scale adoption of CCS is expected to erase the efficiency gains of the last 50 years, and increase resource consumption by one third.

    Storing carbon underground is risky. Safe and permanent storage of CO2 cannot be guaranteed. Even very low leakage rates could undermine any climate mitigation efforts. (Not to mention the fact that accidental large-volume release could result in a invisible, odorless cloud of suffocating gas, creating a localized catastrophy.)

    CCS is expensive. It could lead to a doubling of plant costs, and an electricity price increase of 21-91%. Money spent on CCS will divert investments away from sustainable solutions to climate change. (And also away from alternative energy development.)

    CCS carries significant liability risks. It poses a threat to health, ecosystems and the climate. It is unclear how severe these risks will be.

    The report is considered to be accurate by a majority of energy experts.

    While both McCain and Obama have spoken favorably about “clean coal” technology, the fact is that neither has been willing to publicly address the inherent problems during their respective presidential campaigns, owing to the obvious political reprecussions.

    “Clean coal” isn’t a financially viable option; it’s actually nothing more than industry disinformation.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Obama has nothing to like. And you’re a troll.

  • ginaswo

    BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHAA!!

    you dumb bunny! Obummer is in the pocket of exelon!
    expect a nuke plant in your backyard obot!

    and who was it who voted FOR the CHENEY Energy Giveaway?
    not hillary
    not Mac

    or yeah..OBUMMER!

    BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA!

    BWAAHAAAAHAAAHA!

  • Geo

    “I am 60 year-old white Republican for my whole life?”

    You have been 60 and white your whole life?

    So you don’t age and you are surprised to find that you are still white?

    GIRD YOUR LOINS
    PUMAS are out in HUGE NUMBERS

    BE AFRAID, very afraid

  • ginaswo

    BWAAAHAAAHAA!!

    What an utter crock of shit!

    BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAA!!

    Ahh they crack me up the Obots, too kewt!

    scurry along now Renfields the grownups have a country to save!

    PUMAS AND GOP GOTV!!

    W00T!!

  • FromPoisonAcornsPoisonOakTreesGrow

    Squirrel Alert.

  • Brendy

    A sixty year old ‘White’ Republican who has NEVER voted for a Democrat before??? Why in the world would a life-long republican vote for THIS democrat – the most liberal, left leaning, evasive, dishonest, secretive candidate who hangs with terrorists, racists (his wife AND ‘preacher’), crooks and anti-Americans (again…his wife AND preacher) and has socialist ideas? Apparently, this person was NEVER a republican!

    I just LOVE hearing all these ‘republicans’ coming out for Obama. LOL!!

  • AnnieO

    It appears Obama is outsourcing for trolls.

  • Peggy Sue

    My in-laws, brother-in-law and his family and a lot of my husband’s cousins live in Delaware County. Not a single one is voting for Obama.

    So, that’s about 18-1 from the neighborhood.

    BTW, my mother-in-law says she’s sick of the telephone calls and door greets. She complained about the same thing during the primaries. She was a HRC supporter. PUMAs come in all ages.

    I also have two sons living in Center City. They’re also NOBAMA voters.

    Anecdotal evidence is a flat snapshot at best. The only thing that matters is the count on Tuesday night.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    You’re a troll. I heard the tape three times and EXACTLY what he said. It’s nice that the Chronicle probably got a nice big “bonus” check to spin that lie. Go post at the Daily Kook please.

  • cookiegramma

    I have some left over kool-aide packets that no one claimed halloween night, I thought some of you Obots might need a fix. Do you want me to e-mail them to you Theo9000?

  • mtc

    Actually, no.

  • http://JohnMcCain.com Galt, Master Thrall of NQ and Planet Triskelion

    Casting your broad brush of alleged racism makes you the racist. We don’t want racists here on NQ.

  • hadenough

    i really doubt miners in some podunk county were gonna vote for the colored feller. West Virginia has already shown us how racist they are.

    You are a piece of work. Typical oborg.