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Tuesday’s Election Battle

We will find out today whether or not the Washington Redskins are a bell-weather or not. Conventional wisdom holds that if the Redskins lose their last game before the election then the party in power (i.e., holding the White House) will be ousted. After Monday night’s lackluster show by the Skins (on national television no less), who were beaten by their own mistakes by a tough Pittsburgh Steeler team, I heard some fans speculating in the stands that the Redskin’s Coach, Jim Zorn, must be an Obama supporter because he did such a lousy job of preparing for this game. Redskins lost and that should hearten Obama supporters.

Anyway, despite the media and punditry certainty that Barack Obama and the Democrats will triumph today there are some signs that the best laid plans of Keith Olbermann and Chris “Tingle-leg” Matthews might be derailed. There are a sizeable number of Democrats who backed Hillary Clinton that don’t buy into the Hopey Changey mantra of Barack Obama and are disgusted by how the Democratic establishment sold out Hillary in the primaries–where she won more actual votes than Barack. Then there is the case of the undecideds. A surprisingly large number of folks in several key states have told pollsters they are not sure who they are going to vote for. My guess is most of these folks don’t want to admit they are voting for McCain rather than Obama, fearing that they would be labeled a racist or not part of the enlightened masses.

The other thing many Democrats forget is that the Democrats control the House and the Senate and that the favorability rating of Congress is lower than even George W. Bush. How much of an incompetent are you if you are considered worse than Bush? Which brings me to Barack Obama.

I hope I am wrong. I hope that Barack Obama is not just a prettified Chicago political hack with a smooth speech and calming manner who has never put principle over political opportunity. He had many opportunities as a state legislator in Illinois to speak out against the rampant political corruption in Chicago, but kept silent. He had twenty years to hear the rantings of Jeremiah Wright and could have challenged his anti-Semitic, anti-American rants, but did nothing until the real Reverend Wright was exposed thanks to video recordings of his many sermons. And even then Barack dissembled. He never heard a single discouraging word from Wright’s pulpit.

Barack had no qualms about accepting the money and help of Tony Rezko, a convicted felon, even when Barack knew that Rezko was facing a Federal corruption investigation. In fact, we now have clear evidence that Barack lied about the purchase of his mansion in Chicago. He got the equivalent of a bribe from Tony Rezko and this case will dog him for the duration of his Presidency should he be elected.

Barack had no problem seeking the help and support of Louis Farrakhan. I give Obama credit for being a smart politician who knew he had to pander to the likes of Farrakhan in order to win his first race in Chicago and take out one of Barack’s political mentors, Alice Palmer. But that is old-style, hardball politics, not a new vision that we want for the rest of America.

Barack also made a conscious decision to befriend, cultivate, and fund some of the most radical groups in America. He has covered up and lied about his longstanding friendship and business association with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. He has hidden his support for former PLO spokesman Rashid Khalidi and sat in gatherings with folks who talked wistfully about destroying Israel. We can point to no instance where Barack Obama stood up and challenged the hate and anti-Semitic rantings of these folks. Barack found a way to use them to get what he wanted. The end always justified the means it would seem in Barack’s utopian world.

Some want to give Obama a pass for these past associations. They insist these events tell us nothing about his judgment. Nope. His disciples recite chapter and verse that he wants to rid our country of “politics” as usual. Except he participated without a word of condemnation as his campaign unleashed vile, misogynist attacks on Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. He said nothing to challenge the bullshit charge that Bill Clinton was a racist. He stayed silent while John McCain was equated with elements of the KKK.

Old style politicians have enemy lists and carry out vendettas. But Obama does not do that. Right? Well, we did see his campaign savage a middle class American, Joe Wurzelbacher aka Joe the Plumber, for having the audacity to ask “Mr. New Politics” about his plans to redistribute wealth in the United States. And his campaign did toss three major American newspapers off of his campaign plane because they dared to endorse John McCain. That’s the “new” politics we can expect from Obama if he is elected? God help us.

Barack also spoke sternly about the evils of lobbyists and earmarks while taking money from those lobbyists and their firms and proving that he loved earmarks as much as most members of Congress. I don’t fault him for seeking earmarks. That, in my view, is an appropriate thing for a legislator to do for his constituents. What bothers me is the blatant, audacious hypocrisy. Worse, the media by and large is happy to ignore the discrepancy between his words and his actions and have been complicit in spreading the myth of the “Man Above Politics.”

If Obama wins I wish him success and long life. I hope he proves me wrong and becomes one of the great Presidents in America’s history. But I am from Missouri. I was born and raised in Independence. I attended Middle School across the street from Harry Truman’s home and chanced to see Harry Truman walking the streets of my hometown accompanied by his elderly, portly body guard, Mike Kelly. You have to show me. I do not buy the words. I don’t think words matter. I think that words must match action in order to matter.

It is because of these reservations that I will be voting for John McCain. If you choose to ignore these warning signs of Barack’s unreliability that is your right. I have friends who are voting for Obama. I tell you what I have told them. If the day comes that you suddenly realize that Barack is a more articulate but equally incompetent version of George W. Bush I do not want to hear a goddamn complaint from you. If Barack casts his lot with the views of Louis Farrakhan and Rashid Khalidi when it comes to dealing with Israel, I don’t want to hear a single kvetch from my Jewish friends who are backing Obama. We have done our best to warn you. You have chosen to ignore hard facts and bank on a vague hope that is not based on any empirical evidence other than the golden tongue and soothing voice of Barack Obama.

If I am wrong and Barack turns out to be a political genius then we win as a country and I will freely admit I was wrong. But the nice thing about America is we still have the right to criticize those who aspire to lead this country and to challenge their veracity. We will continue to do this task at NoQuarter regardless who wins the election. I offer no quarter and I take no prisoners. Do not forget to vote.

  • Objective Analysis

    Voting McCain-Palin – NObama ever.

  • pk

    As has been pointed out by many, Obama’s moral system seems to be guided mostly by “the ends justify the means”. I think there have been many “warning signs” relating to Obama, but the majority of Americans seem to be disregarding them – they seem to be betting on a fantasy. I think Obama will be a disaster for this country.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Very nice.

    We own our votes. Vote wisely. Vote McCain.

  • socalannie

    I love this website. Thanks Larry.

  • For Impartial Journalism

    Thank you, Larry, for your words of wisdom, for taking a final stand, and for having provided a haven for those who worry that Barack Obama will end the last vestiges of the country my ancestors have fought for from the Revolutionary War to World War II.

    Thank you for also giving me an opportunity to learn so much from your contributors and all the participants here at No Quarter.

    We are privileged to have a forum where Democrats, Independents, and Republicans alike are able to interact in a spirit of community and work toward what is best for our country.

    Regardless of the outcome, I believe we will all continue our fight to bring America back to the place of Glory she deserves.

  • Christy

    Thank you for everything Larry. No BO in 2008.

  • Artemis

    I, too, used to look out the window of William Chrisman Jr. High and watch President Truman take his early morning walks. So, I can relate to Larry’s “show me” attitude. However, I feel Obama has already showed me what kind of person he is, and I hold out no hope that he will be a decent president. If he proves me wrong, I’ll come back and say so. But the election hasn’t happened yet. I am still holding out hope that McCain surprises everyone and wins the election. (Like Truman over Dewey…it’s possible!)

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    Thanks so much Larry. This post is great. And I trust that No Quarter will continue to hold the next president accountable whether it is Barack Obama or John McCain.

    I still consider myself to be a Democrat but this election has made me much more independent. I think that if anything we can all learn a few important lessons from this election.

    For the first time I decided that I could not support the Democratic nominee for president. And from now on I will no longer vote straight ticket without analyzing the candidates I vote for and the other politicians those candidates support. No more mindless voting.

    For those who care about a specific issue, I urge you to hold our politicians’ feet to the fire regardless of their political party. If you care about women’s rights, don’t lower your expectations and vote for candidates who have never proven that they are strong advocates for women. If your issue is gay rights, don’t compromise your beliefs to vote for someone who will not stand up for your rights.

    It IS time for change. It is time for people to demand action instead of “just words”.

    Have a great day and get out the vote!

  • David

    Basically, the American public sold their birthright for a bowl of pea soup, i.e., Obama’s $1,000 tax cut.

    What is Obama going to do?

    (1) Reimpose aggressive affirmative action quotas for all private employers.
    (2) Make the illegal immigrants citizens and provide them with benefits. Soon we will have affirmative action quotas for these immigrants too.
    (3) Destroy businesses with huge increases in electric bills. Those increases in electricity bills will eat up the tax credit for a lot of individuals. (Sen. McCain really failed to bring up Sen. Obama’s plan to auction off the ability to produce carbon dioxide and how much this would cost. Sen. McCain’s cap and trade would not have involved an auction.)
    (4) Card check will provide for massive unionization drives that will cause a great deal of strikes on its imposition. I predict a lot of businesses will close rather than sign contracts that will bankrupt them. (Note: You have a manufacturing plant. Obama provides for massive electricity increases because of his auctioning off carbon dioxide permits. Can you pay your employees more? No!!!)
    (5) The mortgage problems will get worse and worse.
    (6) The stock market will collapse by 50%.
    (7) Some of the rich will get richer though. Obama’s friends in some industries will benefit from cap and trade since this will destroy their competitors.

    My belief is that Sen. Obama placed agents in both the Clinton and McCain campaigns.

  • lantern

    My thoughts are with the McCain/Palin campaign and all its supporters today. May you be pleasantly surprised.

    I will be following the results during the night – probably from after midnight South African time. Early evening we have an USA election party.

    And I will be eager to read this blog and all your messages to get a feel for what is happening.

  • FenelonSpoke

    Thanks, Larry for your impassioned article and your great website. It’s been a haven in a kool-aid drenched world.

    Bless you.

  • pk

    Agents in the Clinton and McCain campaigns – that is an interesting idea. It may be possible and seems like something that Obama would proudly think up, which is why I believe an Obama presidency would be much more corrupt and dangerous than what has happened during the Bush years.

  • johninca

    I wish to thank LCJ and the writers here for manning the barricades and doing so much to stop Obama.

    Up to today I have been feverishly working and praying for the defeat of Obama and his deranged allies; in a few hours I’ll be voting for that purpose as well.

  • belle

    forget about the redskins losing, McCain and Palin will be able to pull this off

  • Northwest rain

    PUMAs have been trivialize and dismissed by pollsters and the media — just like the DNC has trivialized and dismissed women — thinking that we would just fall in line and vote for who they selected.

    However — PUMAs are both male and female — and the PUMA men are getting a taste of the sexist treatment that women have been getting from the Democratic leadership.

    My vote for McCain has been signed sealed and delivered over a week ago — and felt right.

    PUMA’s vote will make a difference tomorrow — we are a force to be reckoned with.

    from Marston’s chronicles: Many of you have asked why the pollsters are not accounting for the PUMA Factor. Their models are built on the “normal” defection from a voter registering with one party and voting for the other one. Because the Democratic Party hosed Hillary big time, the are some very unhappy Democrats who will not vote for Obama. This is not normal and is an effect causing a mistake of 7 to 8 % in the polling by counting Democrats as voting for Obama when they are going to vote for McCain. No matter what the people say who are polled, pollsters still weight their sample to “force” it into known demographic and political patterns. That does not even begin to account for people who deliberately lie to the pollsters which PUMA’s are urged to do.

    http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=119

  • jvsp

    Incompetent and out of his mind perhaps, but GWB does love his country. I can’t say the same for Obama.

  • BlueTopaz

    Thx for the sanctuary, Larry.

    I brought in my absentee ballot Monday. I voted McCain/Palin and Rep. for all the national positions and researched all others. The Dems. that supported Hillary before she got robbed got my vote, the others, got the finger.

  • Mr. X

    I was just thinking a while ago that a lot of things that should be positives for ANYONE are actually negatives for Obama.

    1. Friends!

    Friends should always be a plus. Yet with Obama, we have a racist pastor, another guy that hates Jews, an indicted political fixer, a terrorist (this one still freaks me out), and the list just goes on and on.

    So even if you’d like to stay positive on this subject, you can’t.

    2. Past deeds!

    Usually, people are proud of past accomplishments. Obama has none. He talks about changing Washington, yet did nothing about Chicago. And he voted “present” countless times advertising that his vote is for sale.

    Again, even if you try to stay positive about Obama’s past accomplishments, you can’t.

    3. Candidate’s campaign

    A politician’s campaign is something that should definitely be a positive. Lots of people put in a great deal of effort to make a successful campaign. But with Obama, his campaign was made possible by going against public funding after he promised he would support it. And now we find out that probably $200 million of it is fraudulent. This is more than McCain’s entire budget from public financing.

    So trying to say good things about his campaign is impossible when it is built on top of corruption, broken promises and that you can change Obama’s mind if the price is right.

    I could go on, but Obama is a person where if you talk about him, you’re almost certainly going to end up in negative territory by no fault of yours. This is why you cannot talk about him in a positive manner if you bring up any facts.

    And this allows Obama to say that his opponents are negative and divisive when there is no way to BE positive about Obama unless you lie or make things up.

  • IndieDogg

    I have cut, pasted and saved your remarks.

    I believe they are prescient.

    However this battle on the morn doth turn, the war, for the soul of this nation, is not ended.

    Safe journey.

  • BlueTopaz

    Will there be any Durbin Poison at the party? LOLA! (Laugh out loud again)

  • Brendy

    Since Obama claimed he was ‘a citizen of the world’, I have NO doubt that he’ll legalize EVERY illegal immigrant who is lucky enough to sneak and lie/steal their way into our country. Of course Obama said his ‘illegal alien’ aunt would have to ‘follow the law’ since (as Obama stated) ‘this is a nation of laws’ (Yeah, right, Obama – I’m SURE you believe THAT and actually follow our laws, don’tchya?!). Since Obama is planning on winning, he can NOW give his illegal alien aunt citizenship because that is one of his campaign issues.

    There’s a book out called ‘The Browning of America’ or something like that. The main reason is BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION with the Hispanics, the Indians (India) and Africans. This is all supposed to happen by the year 2040. I wonder if the white race will qualify for ‘affirmative action’ then? I doubt it! And talk about socialism!!! Whew – it’ll be in FULL FORCE BY THEN!

  • repughunter

    Redskins lose/ Obama wins / Mcwarmonger- Neocon Mooselini lose/ Americans- world win!

  • erin

    This is an important day not only for the US, but for people throughout the world. I live in Australia, and have been an ardent reader of No Quarter all of this year. I needed to go somewhere where I could be sure of getting an honest and objective view of what was happening in the US election. No Quarter delivered on that. My views have always been left of centre, and I could never envisage a situation where I would support a candidate from the right, but that all changed once I saw the dirty tactics being adopted by the Obama campaign. I fervently hope they will not be rewarded with a win today, not only for the sake of the US, but for the world as a whole. Thank you Larry for your site, and may it continue regardless of who wins the election. I couldn’t envisage a day without a visit to No Quarter. Heaven knows, if Obama wins there will be an urgent need for objective reporting, which No Quarter has delivered.

  • http://logisticsmonster.com/ DiamondTiger

    I live in a blue state and I voted straight republican ticket all the way down the line…for the first time in my life. What a relief to go and vote early and add my voice to the McCain/Palin chorus!

    PUMA
    I, Just Say No Deal!

    Personally, I want to see Barack stripped of his senate seat and not be able to run for dog catcher!

  • Judy L. NC

    Redskins, Schmedskins.

    Before I head out to my poll watching assignment, I just want you all to know I’ll be here in spirit for that big group hug whenever it comes. And I’ll try to remember to pray with you at high noon.

    Great thanks to Larry for this port in a storm and to all the other insightful writers for their hope and inspiration.

    This is it, peeps. Let’s rock ‘n’ roll.

  • joe

    And yet people view him as the Messiah the great hope of America. Obama is all about power and punishing his enemies and if he is elected president then we are all supposed to support and unite behind him as “our” president? I thought that Bush has at least some sensitivity and some genuine humility and I never thought he was ruthless. Obama is ruthless, an actor and a phony.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    i hope everybody will watch the exit polls and results in their states and post them here at NQ so we’ll all know what’s going on. also keep an eye out for voting “irregularities” and document anything that may be of use; take pictures, recordings, screen shots etc. we all know how incriminating evidence tends to disappear, and this year will certainly be no exception, with the media so in the tank for the obamessiah.

  • socalannie

    Good luck Judy!!!

  • Miro

    Thank you Larry. No matter who prevails in this election, I will keep reading and supporting your noquarterblog in order to stay informed and have background information that is not tilted by money and power guided favoritism.

    I will also continue to actively support actions against misogyny, sexism and other homophobic behaviour.

    If this means to “swimm against the current”, so be it, it is not the first time in my life!

  • NoBamaNoWay

    that Boston Red Sox world series win in 2004 really helped president kerry, didn’t it?

  • Jackarooty

    I fear an Obama presidency. I made a deal with my maker that I would forfeit a Red Sox WS victory for a McCain win.

    Well? Can you hear me now?

  • joe

    Yes, thank you No Quarter. Great reporting. Even though it may not always be completely accurate at times, it raises important/critical questions and encourages open discussion on so many of the important issues of this election.

  • Susanjane

    It is earlier in the AM than I usually get up, and I am on my way out the door to work at the polls. May the best person win, and May God save this nation and save us all. Have a great day and go take somebody to vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin.!

  • BlueTopaz

    Omaha means “against the current”. LOLA!

  • Lindsy

    Are there still that many PUMA’s? I ask because the 3 I know at work all told me yesterday that they are voting for Obama.

    One said it was abortion and she hates Sarah Palin.
    The other said it was because of the stock market crash and how the Repubs must be punished.
    The third one said she believes the moderate Dems will not allow Obama to be too liberal and she must be loyal to the party.

    I’m so scared for my country today. While I can still say this: God Bless America and have mercy on us today.

  • wodiej

    thanks for the post Larry.

    The only thing I wish for Obama is he can go back to his corrupt Chicago. He is not President material. Anyone who would associate w the likes of Farrakahn, Ayers and Wright isn’t fit to lead Americans. He can go straight to hell for all I care. Like Bush, if Obama does win, he will not be my President. He’s got even less experience than Dumbo Bush.

    God Bless America and God Bless John McCain and Sarah Palin.

  • randall the computer guy

    I think you have this backwards, we ALL lose if barry wins.

  • wodiej

    well then they really weren’t PUMA’s to begin with. Hence “party unity my ass”…..

    bet they didn’t say why they hate Sarah Palin.

    I was at a friend’s over the weekend and her roommate’s boyfriend was there. Said he’s voting for Obama, he doesn’t like Sarah Palin. I said why? He said I don’t know. What the hell kind of answer is that supposed to be? The Republicans must pay. The Democrats have been in control for the last 2 years and tanked the mortgage and stock market. Bunch of morons.

  • randall the computer guy

    Those weren’t real pumas then, there’s millions of pumas, God only knows how many there really are.

  • wodiej

    Rock on, I will be heading out shortly to do my part.

  • Liz B

    Woke up to look for the MNF Results, and my heart sank. I kinda have an ill at ease feeling this morning as I ready myself to go get coffee and head out to vote.
    I am going to hit the grocery store for some last minute items (six months worth of food–ha, ha)
    but seriously, we can only hope and praay for the anticipated buyer’s remorse that we hope the Obama supportors will feel. Win or lose, I want to stay close to home tomorrow and I’ll stay plugged in here to NQ. Thanks for the post, Larry.

  • http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/500/mcmentum/ Canadian4Hillary

    Good Morning Friends!!

    I have followed this election for the past year & NQ has done an outstanding job. I can’t get thru a day without reading all the great posts & comments here.
    My thoughts & prays are with all of you as you vote for the best candidate to up hold the Constitution & the values of the great USA.

    I couldn’t have gotten thru this by just watching the complete media bias. I am so glad I found NQ & meet so many great people on the blogs & BTR (mytwocents) & others. Although I can’t vote, I have done the next best thing by blogging & sharing links to get the truth out on BO.

    Mr X summed it up the best, enuff said.

    I supported Hillary all the way but now Mccain/Palin.

    God Bless & watch over us all!!

  • BlueTopaz

    Correction, Durban Poison

  • McKatmoon

    Thank you Larry for a safe port in the storm. This has been a sanctuary and a way I have been able to keep my political sanity. Great writers, great bloggers all who work hard to match their words they put out, day after day. My thoughts and prayers go out to Senator McCain and Gov. Palin today; they have fought the good fight, for once it would be right to see the decent man win. Onward and forward.
    McCain/Palin 08 Cheers!

  • wodiej

    Several times in Peter’s life, Jesus asked him to go the extra mile, to toss his fishing net over the other side of the boat-one more time. And these fishing nets weren’t small. They weren’t easy to move from side to side. They were very heavy. Peter was reluctant, but he did it anyway because Jesus asked him to, and the results were amazing.

    It’s easy to get tired and discouraged when you’ve tried and tried and aren’t seeing the results you had hoped. But, when you hear the voice of the Master deep down inside saying, “Try it again,” know that things are about to change. It may be hard. It may not make sense. You may be tired, but that “one more time” can be the breakthrough you’ve been waiting for!

    When everything and everyone else says it’s time to give up, that’s when it’s time to go with God. When you obey Him, He’ll take the impossible and turn it into a miracle. You can trust that God is ordering your steps. He’s taking you down a path of victory and increase. Just like Peter, you’ll be amazed at what will happen when you follow His commands, just one more time!

  • PamelaofthePoconos

    A little-noticed comment by Obama in one of the Primary debates was this [paraphrased]: I’ll take help from anyone – even Hillary. The comment bothered me immensely, but I ‘sat’ on it.

    Recent reflections of this statement make it obvious that this is what he is all about: taking from those willing to give. To my way of thinking, this means the man is willing to sell his soul to anyone.

  • Mr. X

    Looks like Operation Voter Suppression starts early today.

  • randall the computer guy

    Was just thinking something today, if nothing else, when our allies dont’ want barry and our enemies do, doesn’t that register with anyone? There’s so much stuff on this guy, it’s no wonder the press want him elected, he will be a goldmine for them to report on.

  • noisejoke

    Hmm, let me get this straight. Most of you people are or were supposedly Democrats, or at least Hillary supporters. And now you’re voting McCain/Palin, and in some cases straight Republican ticket because your feelings are hurt?

    Wow. The way you stand for your principles is quite inspiring. I’m sure Hill and Bill will be quite pleased you’re supporting the candidates that are for the Bush tax cuts; for the continuation of the mess in Iraq – both a meat grinder and a money hole; for the trickle down oligarchy that is our economic system (and decimated by Iraq war among other things, proving that the terrorists have indeed won); Anti-Choice, Science and knowledge; Pro-torture, incompetency, and small-mindedness.

    What a bunch of honorable Patriots! Pathetic.

    I’d never shout “racist” at anybody who doesn’t support BO. Unless, of course, they actually say they won’t vote for any African-American. But, I’d love to see some proof of when that’s actually happened to any of you. Who am I kidding? Proof behind any accusation is somehow always missing on this sad little blog. Where’s the “whitey” tape Larry?????

  • lantern

    I am a bit embarrassed, because I do not know Durban Poison. But I am interested to know what it is.

    Will have Cape red wine. And champagne. I will probably be the only one to cheer, as I think the other people will all be obama supporters.

  • DeniseL

    I remember 8 years ago when Florida was called for Gore. My brother was working in Florida and sitting in a bar in the panhandle. Of course, even though the networks said they wouldn’t call a state where the polls were still open- apparently they couldn’t help themselves. I still wonder if the margin for Bush would have been higher if the state hadn’t been called because some people went home without voting.

    Then, last election, Drudgereport was claiming a Kerry victory because of exit polling in Ohio. Of course, we all remember how that turned out.

    If Obama wins we will see our enemies dancing in the streets. Then, maybe some people will realize what they have done. Maybe.

    I’m still holding out hope. Unfortunately, I signed up to work at the polls so I won’t be able to read here all day. I am hoping that the election isn’t called before I get home.

    McCain/Palin can still win it!

  • randall the computer guy

    what’s truly pathetic is voting for a fraud out of hatred for the current administration or just because someone has a “d” by their name.

    We’ll give you the whitey tape when you produce a legit birth certificate, k? thought so.

  • wodiej

    oh geez…you’re kidding me right?? You sound like someone else who said Hillary’s supporters were a bunch of women that need to “get over it”. This isn’t about our feelings being hurt. This is simply about love of our country. That comes before any political party. By the way, George Bush is not running this year.

    The Democrats have been in charge of Congress for the last 2 years and we all know how that is going. You must not know much about economics because you never raise taxes during a bad economy/recession-EVER. We already have the 2nd highest corporate tax rate. You far left kooks get all pissy about capitalism and rich people. But a poor person never gave anyone a job, health or retirement benefits. Obama’s economic plan is a disaster.

    His associations alone should make any logical and reasonable person fearful. But then some people simply have no use for principles do they??

    God Bless America and God Bless John McCain and Sarah Palin

  • randall the computer guy

    if barry wins and is as terrible as advertised, I bet my lifetime salary not a single one of his supporters will own up to it, they’ll just blame it on something else or deny it or whatever. There is no accountability with barry’s group, especially when it comes to being wrong about something.

  • PamelaofthePoconos

    I’ve had to sacrifice my preference in issues for the purpose of defending ‘the will of the people.’ Obama is not the people’s candidate; rather, he is The Party’s candidate and I will not help them seal their deal.

  • wodiej

    I thought the same thing, that midget from N. Korea, Chavex, Farrakhan, Rev. Wright and others…yep, a bunck of freaks and kooks like most of his supporters.

  • noisejoke

    So you have the tape then? How’s the sound quality? I guess the Secret Muslim who went to Wright’s Church and is a member of the US Senate though he was born….where?…really snowed us all!

    Nice leap, Randall – what was it I wrote that implied I’m voting for Obama because there’s a D by his name? I suppose you couldn’t infer that I agree with most of his ideas, ideals and his and the Democratic Party’s platform.

    I’ve also not developed an irrational, paranoid hatred based on feeble Drudge and Fox inspired filth. If you were ever actually a Dem or a Hillary supporter I’m glad you’re gone. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

  • lisa-ny

    Upstate NY here.
    Polls opened and even though I am an Independent, in honor of all the PUMAS out there , I proudly stood and line wearing RED , got into the booth , and gladly voted for McCain and straight republican ticket !
    God Bless the USA !!!!!

  • McKatmoon

    Cool and Good for you! We voted early last week, and being in TN, we aren’t a swing state, but at least Senator McCain stopped over yesterday to give a thank you. It would have been Senator Clinton, but we were cheated; so we voted for the best candidates left. You Betcha!

  • McKatmoon

    Cool and Good for you! We voted early last week, and being in TN, we aren’t a swing state, but at least Senator McCain stopped overin our state yesterday to give a thank you. Our vote would have been Senator Clinton, but we were cheated; so we voted for the best candidates left. You Betcha! McCain/Palin!

  • noisejoke

    Hello, friend – where did I write that “Hillary’s supporters were a bunch of women that need to “get over it”. ”

    Typical – Can’t you even fight fire with fire? Let me make it simple for you: Hillary is a Democrat for many reasons. Most of which are identical to my reasons, and Obama and Biden’s. What are your reasons? For what reasons did you support her in the first place?

    Please read your tirade again and note all you accused me of saying or thinking that’s not referenced in any of my posts.

    I suppose your economic expertise that informs your opinion that we should never “raise taxes during a bad economy/recession” precludes the fact that Hillary would also allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, and that McCain did his head in the ground best to deny there was ever a problem in the first place. Are you essentially agreeing with (not) Joe the (not a) plumber, who’s also not an intellect, and is simply a tool both literally and figuratively?

  • BJ

    Wonderful post from Larry as usual.

    The bots who support obambi were shocked and (many) were furious that he signed on, status quo, to turn a blind eye to the phone taps by Bush and the phone companies all of whom allowed it (except for one brave company if I recall). Many were furious and shocked that Obambi was demonstrated the standard political behavior when he promised so much more.

    I believe it won’t be long before they slowly, one by one, see that he is no different than any other politically ambitious smooth talking salesman with a smooth tongue that goes through their ears like silk but in the end will prick their vessels with the sharp tongs.

    It’s ok to be ambitious, even politically ambitious, but to be so obviously hungry for the power and nothing more, should scare the hell out of everyone, because that’s all this guy is about.

    There are many politicians, agree with their policy choices or not, who want to better the lives of people and to see this country always be secure and prosperous.

    I don’t believe for a minute Obambi is one of these people. This is a man who wrote his “memoirs” in his young mid life. wtf?

    He’s all about the power and nothing more.

    Every time I think of Michelle Obambi in MY white house it repulses me beyond words.

  • beebop

    My polling place is a five minute walk. It is an elementary school. As I walked there to vote in the primaries for Hillary, I knew that her history of deeds and the platform that she was running on would ensure that those children and their parents would have a better future. Her opponent? No history. And as it stands now, no policy or platform that he has not reshaped to please the audience he is addressing.

    The Democratic party neglected to listen to more than half of us. And it allowed those of us who are female to be lampooned and debased because it thinks so little of its most highly placed female. There is no getting around that. And when you analyze the economic disaster, the culpability is as much “D” as it could ever be “R.”

    I am not voting for the “one.” I would not if he was the only one. The fact that after eight years of shrub, the Dems think he is the best of the party is insulting. I am voting for the outcast of the Republican party and am proud to do it. I am voting for a man whose record is long, public and proud. I am voting for a man who is not an enigma to me. I am voting for a man whose words don’t need to be parsed and who doesn’t spend more time running from the facts about him than he does creating two works of fiction about himself.

    I didn’t come into this election cycle expecting to emerge voting for John McCain. But I do so as proudly as I did voting for William Jefferson Clinton — twice. And I know that Americans are smart people. And wait for a good result.

    Love you guys!

  • Lindsy

    I was feeling quite optimistic about McCain’s chances this morning- until I saw the final TIPP poll. Gives it to Obama by 7%. Since they were the most accurate in 2004 now I’m feeling very depressed.

    They gave Obama the undecideds 2:1- so it doesn’t appear that McCain is going to take them 4:1 as was hoped.

    *sigh*

  • georgiapeach

    One of my brothers is an elected Democratic County Commissioner, and the other one is chair of the county Democratic Party. They are both apoplectic because I have steadfastly refused to vote for Barack Obama. Even though I have explained my reasons, they are firmly convinced that I have been brainwashed by watching FOX News. I’ve told them both almost word for word what Larry said above. If Obama wins, I sincerely hope that they are right and I am wrong. I hope that he turns out to be the very best of FDR, JFK, and Bill Clinton all rolled into one.
    But I won’t be convinced he’s won unless or until John McCain concedes. The media has kept up a steady drumbeat of “Obama headed for a landslide” to suppress turnout for McCain. They quote the number of Democrats vs. Republicans who have early voted to give the advantage to Obama. But they aren’t taking into account how many of those Democrats are voting for McCain. I come from a long line of yellow dog Democrats, and the majority of them have or will vote for John McCain. The media will use exit polls to try to call it early for Obama. But I remember 2004, when the exit polls pointed to a Kerry win. Until the actual results started coming in. I’m turning my television off today, and I hope the majority of McCain supporters do likewise.

  • BJ

    far left “kooks” as you call them are not 1% any worse than far right “kooks” and if you don’t know that, then I guess we can assume you are one.

    Sincerely,

    proud liberal independent here-

    didn’t marry a republican “kook”
    wouldn’t befriend a republican “kook”
    wouldn’t hire a republican “kook”
    wouldn’t pick up a republican “kook” on a long desserted road either-

    the dingbat far right republican “kooks” repulse me- I think they all need to be in a mental institution… seriously.

    McCrazy/Palin ’08 – I already voted for them and hope they pull this one out of the bag.

  • LV

    I agree with you 100%, Erin. It feels like the world is upside down when you find yourself wishing for a supposedly rightwing candidate’s success, and I’ve had many heated discussions with friends and family about Obama vs McCain. The liberal media here in the UK is uncritically for Obama, and so most left-leaning people support him unquestioningly because they don’t get to hear anything else – they know nothing of policy flipflops, caucus fraud, rampant misogyny or anything else.
    Thanks heavens for No Quarter!

  • McKatmoon

    The thing the media has neglected so badly is those of us who were or are still democrats, voting for Senator McCain, were just as fed up with the Bush administration as the o supporters, but yet we got a double whammy of Bush style tactics from our own, with respect to how Senator Clinton was treated by her own party. Now how hard is it to figure out that was a slap in an already beat up face? We were suppose to just settle for what was offered? No thanks. I prefer to give my vote to someone who actually has the stones to put action to words, and with dignity and respect. There is no democratic party left of what I knew when I voted for President Clinton. This election cycle has forever changed how I view politics and how my vote will be cast. I will never be a party person again, and I suspect, there may be a few out there that feel the same.

  • he whose middle name must NOT be named

    oh we were/are dems alright. you just have to accept that. and we are in a very liberal, academic circle. you may think you know our type, and what we’re thinking, but don’t be so sure. we may have PhDs, and drive volvos, and shop at whole foods, but my husband is out voting for Mac right now; our other affected dem friends are voting for nader or mac…the dems have shown themselves to be a dirtier party than any of us could ever have imagines: caucus fraud, finance fraud, voter reg fraud. how on earth can anyone with a conscience vote for someone whose already shown us his true, unsavory colors?

  • Matias

    So the guy who dissembled for months about the mythical Whitey tape, who told us that Obama’s grandmother was fine and that his visit to HI was suspicious, feels he has the moral standing to criticize anyone, anywhere about anything? You don’t Larry: you are a racist, lying, hack of a spook. Thank the deity of your choice that you, the PUMAs, and the Republicans (I could just say “the Republicans”, couldn’t I? you are all cut from the same cloth) are in for a tremendous repudiation tonight.

  • he whose middle name must NOT be named

    love your thoughts – just read them out loud to my husband who returned from voting for Mac!

    Hillary was (we moved) our senator: we’ll wait until the dems offer us her/another candidate at her level of quality before we return to the dems!

    obama is a poor, poor husk of a candidate…

  • BJ

    “because your feelings are hurt?”

    Ummm, NO, that’s not the case at all.

    Facts matter, real FACTS (yeh know what those are, facts?)

    a resume matters,

    actions speak louder than words, at least in my book-

    experience matters-

    Some of us watched the primary season very, VERY closely.. we saw the corruption, the illegal antics in the caucuses, we saw the screams of racism, we saw all the dirty dirty tricks of obambi and his team.

    He’s an arrogant pompous son of a bitch and unlike Larry I don’t wish him well, at all.

    I wish my country well and that’s about all I can wish for this sad and pathetic political season.

    ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS
    ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS
    ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

    Remember that bucko when the shoe drops and the sh’t hits the fan in the obambi administration.

    I’m still waiting to hear just what “change” and “hope” stand for. Every obambi bot I’ve talked to didn’t seem to have a specific answer, nor did any of them… any of them actually know real facts of where he stands on any policies.

  • witness08

    Let’s Roll

    Let’s take something else away from this election process too. Let’s resolve to be informed citizens. Let’s make our government accountable to We the People. Let’s take our inspiration from Sarah Palin a woman who started out in the PTA. Let’s become more engaged citizens, join the PTA’s, attend town hall meetings. Be aware, be informed, educate yourselves.
    We’ve seen things in this election that we’re so wrong. Let’s see those things changed. Let’s fix the Primary election process. We’ve seen what the media is all about.
    I’d like to see NoQuarter continue to be an organization that enables citizens to hold their government accountable. A place where we can hold a “global town hall meeting”. A place where we can learn about the important issues in every town, city and state. We’ve seen that we can’t rely on the major media for accurate unbiased information. We have to seek that out ourselves. I’ve relied on contributors and commentators for information that has not been provided by the media.

  • Newly Independent

    Still a slave to the “polls,” eh?

  • Shiloh

    McCain will win over 300 electoral votes. There will be rioting.

  • Shiloh

    Ignore the media today. They will be out in full force desperately trying to suppress the McCain vote with their stories and exit polls about how well Obama is doing.

    The public polls are bunk. They are a media product and that says it all. The polls that have to be accurate are the internal polls that determine how last minute appearances and spending are allocated. here are the latest McCain internal polls:

    PA: MCCAIN 52%, Obama 40%, Undecided 6%

    NJ: Obama 47%, McCain 45%, Undecided 7%

    MI: McCain 45%, Obama 44%, Undecided 7%

    VA: McCain 53%, Obama 42%, Undecided 3%

    CO: McCain 50%, Obama 44%, Undecided 4%

    MO: McCain 49%, Obama 42%, Undecided 7%

    FL: McCain 52%, Obama 44%, Undecided 3%

  • Clara Barton

    Thank you Larry for your words and the site you provide for us like-minded citizens. This has been the campaign from hell, starting so long ago I can’t recall when there wasn’t a campaign. My desired candidate didn’t run, so after a couple of months of watching and listening, I came to realize that Hillary was by far the best person for the job. I never realized that the misogyny and the nastiness aimed at her would bother me so deeply, but it was a big reason I voted for John McCain. If you treat one segment of your population like he treated Hillary, then he can’t be a good man. The rest of the revelations about him have only iced the decision.

    It’s raining here in the battleground state of Virginia as it is in Eastern NC and is expected to do much of the day. Glad I voted early and I’ll bet my husband wishes he had! Will be interesting to see what that does to turnout and to the chaos that will probably reign at the polling places.

    White light to John and Sarah today, and to the rest of our country should the other side win.

  • Five Thirty

    “Lindsy” – are u an Obama supporter?

  • wodiej

    I am with you on your entire statement. I think many PUMA people, Hillary supporters, women, and Democrats have been GREATLY UNDERESTIMATED.

    If nothing else I think this election has made voters who always vote by party and straight ticket, to assess our public servants better. I think in general we have just become too complacent and that is why there is so much waste and corruption in government.

  • Geo

    They oversampled Dems and then they allocated undecideds the inverse of reality.

    The GOP turnout will be massive.

  • wodiej

    I think she’s a troll-beat it kook

  • wodiej

    My sister who is 49 and niece who is 26 have never voted and are voting today for McCain.

  • tom

    I was wondering where you got this information about McCain’s internal polling data?

  • witness08

    Let’s take something else away from this election process too. Let’s resolve to be informed citizens. Let’s make our government accountable to We the People. Let’s take our inspiration from Sarah Palin a woman who started out in the PTA. Let’s become more engaged citizens, join the PTA’s, attend town hall meetings. Be aware, be informed, educate yourselves.
    We’ve seen things in this election that were so wrong. Let’s demand changes in the Primary election process. Let’s never again let a candidacy be bought or stolen.
    We’ve seen what the media is all about. We’ve seen that we can’t rely on the major media for accurate unbiased information. NQ’s writers and commentators have been a source of information and POV’s that aren’t presented by the major media.
    I’d like to see NoQuarter continue to be an organization that enables citizens to hold their government accountable. A place where we can hold a “global town hall meeting”. A place where we can learn about the important issues in every town, city and state. A place where we can rally and work for change.
    No Quarter has been a refuge for me since the end of the Democratic primary. I did not believe that Barack Obama was qualified to hold the highest office in this country and I did not change my mind just because some people told me to. Of the people now running to hold that office,I believe that John Sidney McCain is the most qualified to hold that position. Today I will vote with conviction for John Sidney McCain and Sarah Palin.

    LET’S ROLL!!!

  • carpetride
  • wodiej

    Hillary did not attend an American hating church for 20 years either. She didn’t associate w a terrorist. I don’t agree w ANYONE raising taxes. We need to cut waste. You are wasting your time here.

    I supported Hillary initially because she was more to the center not far left liberal like Obama and most of his supporters. I have little respect left for her now either that she is supporting Obama.

    Problem w people who claim to be “intellectual”, they have no common sense, two different things.

  • College Educated for Hillary

    You don’t have to be a natural born citizen to sit in the House or Senate. Martinez from Florida was born in Cuba.

  • wodiej

    I didn’t say far left kooks were any worse than the far right ones did I??

  • witness08

    Also wanted to give my very deep appreciation to Larry, and everyone else on NoQuarter for their hard work and dedication. Great work folks!

  • witness08

    sorry, mouse speed is too fast and sent this in unfinished. read below.

  • Five Thirty

    Yah think?

  • Deep Truths

    Who’s to say granny was about to tell all and he had her offed. If granny was seriously ill, to which her brother said she was fine, then why didn’t Michelle and her daughters go visit her. They had other, bigger better plans???

    Granny was about to squeal. Same thing happened to Donald Young, the gay choir director – shot in the head on Christmas Day.

    Middle Finger to you on this fine election day.

  • Monet

    Last spring, even in late August – it seemed like this morning would never dawn. It’s been a hard fought election – from the primaries in both parties to the general election. We’ve seen incidents, behavior and statements that have made us wince, we’ve seen ones that have made us proud to call this nation home.

    The sun is slowly creeping across America and as it does, the polls will open. From the Carolina barrier islands, to the Michigan auto factories, to the Nebraska corn fields, to the majestic Rockies of Colorado to the Snake River rolling through Idaho, to the beaches of Southern California across the Pacific to the submerged USS Arizona – millions are heading to the polls. Many of those millions firmly believe in the candidate they’ve chosen, others are choosing the least of two evils. They are all choosing the candidate they believe is the best choice for America.

    When the lights turn off at the polls tonight and the counting comes to a close, I hope that America can accept the tally without hate. We’ve had too much hate for the past eight years. The hate burrowed it’s way into this election and we’ve seen behavior that isn’t us. It isn’t what we stand for. It isn’t what our forefathers founded this nation on.

    We’ve had eight years of misguidance, incompetence and negligence that has us in dire straits. If we let the hate that began in the Clinton Administration continue to grow, continue to let it divide us – we’ll postpone recovering from the Bush years – if we’re ever able to do so within our lifetimes. It’s time to set the hate, disgust, frustrations aside and get to work to keeping track of our federal and state governments and making them work for us. Regardless of who is president. We can’t retreat to our homes and let another eight years go down the drain the way we did with the Bush administration. We can’t go silent in defeat or victory, we need to raise our voices loudly with class, not crass, with viable alternatives – not with hate.

    Today I will cross my political ideology and vote for Senator McCain. If he wins, I won’t embrace the Republican party. I won’t embrace the Democratic party. I will keep my voice alive, I will continue to keep watch on Washington and my state and fight for what I believe in. If Senator Obama wins, I won’t react with hate and anger. Instead I will do the same as I would if Senator McCain won.

    Regardless of who wins tonight, tomorrow when the sun begins creeping across our nation, I’m going to protect and champion what this country was founded on, majority rule that protects the rights of the minority. That principle is more important than who wins tonight. I’m not going to hate like Mathias. I’m not going to react in anger. Hate and anger never protects the rights of the minority or for that matter, supports a majority rule that is just and competent.

  • tfitz

    Larry et al. Thank you so much for all of your hard work during the long campaign.

  • Deb

    Shiloh- that is the best news I’ve seen yet- but this year I’m naturally suspicious and cynical.

    Are you inside the campaign- and if so- how many days ago were those polls taken?

    As you know- there’s a huge disinformation game going on- so a little more context for those numbers you cite would be helpful!

  • erin

    Matias – I am not quite sure what makes people like you tick. It seems you have not been blessed with the insight to work things out for yourself, but if you bothered to do so you would realise that John McCain decided a long time ago not to reduce his campaign to the gutter. He is clearly an honourable man, and just because the tape was not shown does not prove its non-existence. Should you be correct in your prediction of an Obama win then all I can say is God help us all, because as was shown during the campaign he does not share the same sense of decency.

  • Monet

    I have friends in Pennsylvania, in both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. They’re Democrats. They’re furious with the DNC. I don’t think they’re in the minority, I think they’re typical of Democratic voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Colorado and Michigan. States with well educated and well skilled populations who have watched their secure financial future whittled away for the past eight years through the incompetence of Congress and the Bush administration. They’re not going to reward Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi by voting for Senator Obama. They’re not going to vote against President Bush by voting for Senator Obama.

    They’ve looked at the track records of both candidates. One candidate has twenty years of successes and failures, a strong record of fighting. One candidate has twenty years of failures, an inability to take a stand and successes at winning elections.

    I think tonight we’ll discover that the McCain campaign’s internal poll is correct. Senator McCain is leading or tied in the states of Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Virginia. I’m in Michigan, I know it’s dead heat here. The undecided will break for Senator McCain today – they will choose the candidate with the better record of successes, the candidate who fights.

    All the Joes and Joannas the plumbers, the engineers, the factory workers, the teachers, the convenience store clerks and the accountants are going to the polls today. They’re the people who decide elections, not the party faithful. They’re going to vote for what they know, not promises of hope and change.

  • beebop

    Just returned from voting. There are a lot of folks out there exercising their rights. And please remember to thank the poll workers. They have a tough job and don’t do it for the money. While I stood outside waiting to get in, a car went by from one of the local Republican offices filming the people standing in line. I feel good that they are doing that. You should hope and pray that they are doing it EVERY WHERE.

  • Doc99

    As an added bonus for voting, Starbucks will give a free cup of coffee to all voters. So get up, vote, and get your coffee.

  • cc

    witness08 I agree wholeheartedly. I would like to see all of us PUMAs, regular noquarter posters, folks over at savagepolitics continue the fight after this election despite who wins.

    we must educate all those gullible minds that our way of life is not god given, but rather a set of privileges and rights that were fought very very hard for.

    we must not be complacent and lose them to those who wish for america to implode. it IS time to become more involved, to make a stand and as Johnny Mac says fight for our country.

    also – I sincerely want to thank Larry for his endorsement of John McCain. I know from reading past posts that this was a difficult decision.

    I’m grateful he like the pumas know this is the time we HAVE to put country first before all else. obama and his associates are a real threat to america’s political system, our values and freedoms.

  • DCMediagirl

    Brendy: Your commments about immigrants, particularly of the dark-skinned variety, are racist, ignorant and vile. As the child of immigrants (Spanish speaking, no less) and the wife of one of those “brown” people you’re so afraid of, I’m deeply offended by your remarks. I would say you should be ashamed of yourself if I thought engaging you in a debate would be a productive use of my time. Shame on you.

  • BernieO

    That is a big concern of mine too, along with the inexperience and laziness. Heck the guy has a habit of not showing up to meetings and hearings, or coming in late then expecting others to sit there while he goes over things that have already been covered.Worse, when he is the chair for over a year and a half, he just doesn’t bother holding hearings and policy meetings. Wonder how that will work in the White House?

    I was disappointed that Larry left out the part about Obama allowing his campaign to trash the Clintons as racist. I think that may have been even worse than the sexism because he was trashing the best legacy his party has to legitimize their bid for power. That was as despicable as George Bush allowing his surrogates to say the McCain had been brainwashed when he was a POW so was basically a Manchurian candidate. This tactic – trashing someone’s best quality or achievement is vintage Atwater/Rove. Clearly Axelrod has learned well from their example, bringing the Democratic Party down to their level. If Obama wins, we will have moved even further away from civil discourse, getting more of the same, in spades.

    One more criticism – unless Patrick Fitzgerald goes after Obama, the Rezko house deal will not be an issue. The media went after Clinton for the bogus Whitewater scandal because he was not cool enough for them – too smart AND a hick from Arkansas. Yet they completely ignored the very real fact that their fave Bush engaged in insider trading when he was on the board of Harken Energy (which is how he got his money to buy into the Rangers b-ball team.) How many people ever heard that the SEC investigated and never closed the case? (Daddy was in power at the time.) Fitzgerald seems like a straight shooter, so I think if he felt he had anything on Obama he would have acted before the election. I will be shocked if he brings charges if Obama wins.

  • Queenie

    I was in a local restaurant last night..it has a bar and bog screen TV’s..there were around 20 college age kids hanging at the bar watching sports..and i heard one of the young gals say..she was getting pressure from her brother to vote for Obama..and that they are no longer talking to each other..the young woman was approx 22-23..she said loudly..I am voting McCain!!…well i got up from my booth and i walked over to the young lady and gave her a hug..and i said..thank you..I said thank you for being diligent on who you vote for ( BECAUSE
    I HEARD HER SAY SHE LOOKED INTO OBAMA’S WHOLE BACKGROUND AND HE WAS SCAREY AT BEST)

    Well the way I approached her was funny ..I was laughing and very light hearted..so then 4 of the guys with the girls asked if they could get a hug too because they were voting for McCain..so I hugged them as well..then other of the young ladies chimed in and said ..they too were voting McCain..well it ended up a hug fest at the bar..and at least 20 of these young people all said they were going to vote for McCain..and I begged them to please show up today at the polls and vote..that John McCain needs every one of their votes..

    I told them to test their friends today..of who Barry Sotoro was..(and they didn’t know who i was talking about)..so I said, ask any of their friends voting for Obama who Barry Sotoro was..and if they didn’t know, then they shouldn’t vote because they don’t know anything about the candidate they are about to put into the White House!!..Well the kids loved it….

    It was quite lovely to see these kids so engaged..and so knowledgable about the candidates..most of these kids had looked up Obama and MCCain and were making intelligent decisions who to vote for..

    So I hope we don’t all assume all the youth is voting for Obama..they are not..

    Meeting those kids last night gave me hope..and it isn’t the Hopey changey bullshit..it was hope that some kids do the research and aren’t just sheeple following along..

    Those were great hugs I gave and got last night in that bar..it gave me the best smile I
    have had in a while!!

    Even my best friends daughters won’t vote Obama..they are both in College..and they have had alot of pressure on them by peers..but they have looked into both men..and asked me many questions..and I have sent them to NQ to read what intelligent people are posting..they mostly just read here ..I don’t think either posts..I have not asked them if they do or what their screen names are..its not my business..but they
    will not vote for Obama..he scares them..he really scares them!

    I now do not believe the Youth vote is all for Oblowme..I believe alot of the youth are informed..and then there are alot of them that are sheeple..but lets not count out those that are informed and intelligent enough to do the homework nessessary to be informed voters!!

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    The GRREAT & POWERFUL OZ (takes no prisoners)

    Watch OUT! ;-)

    Thanks for this place Larry. It’s an oasis or better yet a lush tropical island in the middle of a raging ocean of barackoolaid!

    What would we have done w/out this place? And then the branches that sprung out from here (radio shows and others websites I found from coming here)

    JUST a treat! Thanks again!
    Peace

    LET’S GO ALL THE WAY Mack -n- Sarah

  • Andy

    Wonderful post LJ. I will save this one w/my personal Docs. It’s a powerful closing argument. Thank you, a lot.

  • Andy

    But I am sure they’ll ask: how did you vote for?
    If you say Obama they’ll give you a Latte
    and if tyou say McCain then they’ll give you just a regular joe :-) — I hate milk in the mornings ;-)

  • Karen

    I would never have gotten through the horror of this election cycle without this site. I have come here day after day to commiserate with fellow Hillary supporters. I have learned so much and tried to pass it on. I truly believe that the Pumas will change the outcome of today’s election. We could have given up, but sites like this have empowered us to fight on. I strongly believe McCain will win today because millions of life-long Democrats, like myself, will vote for country first.

    Let’s get out there and vote proudly for John McCain, the best candidate out there. Let’s do it for Hillary. Let’s pray that Obama loses by a landslide. Let’s start tomorrow to change the Democratic Party, to get rid of Dean, Brazille, and others who brought the party to such low levels. Let’s continue this fight.

    Thank you Larry for all you have done for us. We are all grateful. Let’s go Pumas!!

    Hillary 2012

  • tzada

    http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc
    A Repeat of 2004 Philly Voter Chaos, Fraud Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 7:46 AM EXCLUSIVE, DEVELOPING–

    GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in more than half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.

    A liberal judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening.

    I am on my way to vote and volunteer. I will be voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin. This former Democrat says PUMA! Hear us roar.!!!!!!!!!!
    It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.

    http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648
    McCain campaign sues over overseas military ballots

    http://www.wnwo.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=216464

    Toledo Police brace for possible civil unrest

  • Bob

    Larry said: “Conventional wisdom holds that if the Redskins lose their last game before the election then the party in power (i.e., holding the White House) will be ousted.”

    This superstition is neither conventional nor wisdom. But this comes from Larry, who lives in a world where Karl Rove has been indicted and Michelle Obama has appeared on stage with Louis Farrakhan to denounce “whitey.” Buffoon with a capital B.

  • Bob

    Larry also says, “I am from Missouri…you have to show me.”

    As his Rove and “whitey” delusions demonstrate, you don’t have to show Larry anything to get him to believe something.

  • stodgie

    matias, go to hell. i think you’ll like it there. all your buddies are waiting.

  • stodgie

    well media girl, let me suggest that if obama wins, get use to race all the time. by the way it may be offensive to you and i can see where it might, she is also raising very real issues. so all this offense doesn’t change the facts. just what are we going to do about immigration? and just what will we do about the obvious downward spiral in race relations? blaming whites doesn’t work anymore. we are sick of hearing about how we are supposed to be above all that while we are verbally attacked, called names, and blamed for things we have never done.

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    Look at it this way Bob, Barrack Obama convinced you and millions that he should be leader of the free world without ever showing leadership on any issue or leading a legislative effort.

    Sounds to me, like you will believe anything.

  • Margaret

    I just voted McCain/Palin and voted for John Kerry’s Republican opponent. I felt so disgusted that I wasn’t able to vote for Hillary today. I am so angry that Obama stole the nomination from Hillary, and seeing a black man strut about at the polls this morning who had never voted before in his life, made me even angrier. It didn’t help that the place was crawling with Obots. This was to be OUR day, and once again, women have been shunted aside.

  • stodgie

    hey wodiej, you don’t say anything. you whine, blame, accuse and then whine some more. oh, and you deny, deflect and then whine some more.

    start off this election day telling RIGHT NOW AND I MEAN RIGHT NOW JUST WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE FOR AMERICA, CHICAGO, OR ANYONE BESIDES HIS SORRY SELF, or get your pathetic arse off here.

  • stodgie

    she is a concern troll. that is all she does on here. ignore her if you can. as for me i am in no mood for their bullsxxx this morning.

  • stodgie

    shiloh, there just might be rioting no matter what. obama has inspired this type of attitude and action. why do you think these nuts are doing some of the things they are? hanging palin in effegy? making threats against joe the plumber? the far right wackos climbed out of the dark side when the right gained power. now the idealogues from the left want their turn. and the rest of us suffer.

  • stodgie

    i think!

  • stodgie

    yeah those typical white people are in reality all your typical americans of every race who are tired of the lies, games, deceptions, theft, and brutalizing of this great country.

  • Effluent

    I don’t believe those “internal McCain polling numbers” given above for one second.

  • stodgie

    hey bob, we know you are an obama troll, so get your sorry self off here. go mow your lawn, clean out your attic. for once do something useful with your life.

  • jj

    Just back from the polls. Staunch Democrat all my life and I voted for McCain.

    Shiloh – can you please comment where you received the internal polls from McCain?

  • NOBAMA2

    The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was allegedly filmed between June 26th and July 1st, 2004, in Chicago, IL, at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at the Sheraton Hotel in Chicago, specifically the women’s panel.

    Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks, wife of the hateful Rev. Meeks.

    For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on “whitey”, and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that’s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who’s seen this.

    The “tape” is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity’s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

    It’s also being reported that ABC-7 news anchors moderated a panel at the Conference that appears to be the one Michelle Obama participated in. If so, then it’s reasonable to believe ABC-7 in Chicago has footage from the panel discussion.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    A great closing argument to vote FOR
    McCAIN/PALIN

    They have my vote too!

  • stodgie

    lindsy, what will you do after today to make money? shovel snow off the walks? walk dogs(poor things)?

  • Bob

    Dream Warrior:

    One of the defining characteristics of the Noquarter mindset is the irrational belief that all criticism of the ridiculous conspiracy theories promoted on this site is based on nothing but Obama partisanship, and therefore need not ever be confronted on its own merits.

    My comments are about Larry — not Barry. As Michelle Malkin said, “Larry Johnson, the main source of the rumors, is not, not, not to be trusted.” The bold emphasis was hers.

    Do you consider Malkin an Obamabot? If so, then you are clearly less intelligent than anyone who checks the truthfulness of Larry’s bizarre claims.

    Reality’s refusal to conform to Larry’s dictates has demonstrated beyond dispute that he is — to put the kindest possible spin on it — an unreliable source. If he walked in the door soaking wet and said it was raining, I wouldn’t take his word for it.

  • Peggy Sue

    Obama took 20 minutes to vote this morning. The media says it was because he’s “deliberative.” And then, of course, he had a photo op.

    Think of all those “present” votes, and now this deliberative moment to cast a ballot for himself.

    Then think about one of those 3 a.m. calls.

    Not ready for prime time. But like Larry, if the numbers go his way, I hope to God I’m wrong.

  • NOBAMA2

    Obama’s finally revealed his vault birth certificate!
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80000

  • Margaret

    Larry, this is a great piece you wrote. God bless you and No Quarter, what would we do without you?
    I am going to save this article, so that should the unthinkable happen and Barack Hussein Obama gets elected by a doped up electorate – I will have it on hand when those who voted Obama want to complain about him. I did warn them. And I will say, I told you so.

  • Bob

    This is what I’m talking about. NOBRAINA2 makes extremely detailed accusations about what Michelle Obama said — without any actual knowledge of what Michelle Obama said.

    Is this Larry posting under a sock puppet? That seems more likely than the rumor NOBRAINA2 is spreading.

  • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem

    That is great wodiej!

  • Florida Dem

    Good morning all! I just returned from casting my vote for McCain/Palin and it felt right. My only regret is that I do not live in Rep Wexler’s district I would have been extreemly happy to have voted against him.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    Thank GOD

    did she really say that? cuz I can’t STAND MALCONTENT MALKIN!!

    good! my world remains upright

  • an observer

    That sure is a lot of reasonable sounding detail for a recording that doesn’t exist!

  • DCMediagirl

    Stodgie: Apples and oranges. The fact that the Obama camp has cynically exploited race relations has nothing to do with immigrants. And all this “white people under siege” business is usually spouted by people in sheets and hoods. People who consider themselves to be liberal have no business using this terminology or suggesting that America is being “browned”. Pure racist claptrap – and REAL racism by the way, not this bullshit fantasy racism the media has become so enamored of. And as far as “immigration reform” is concerned, how many native born citizens do you know who are willing to live in hideous shacks and pick lettuce and strawberries for sub-sub-sub minimum wage, or clean toilets, or take care of other people’s spoiled children for substandard wages? Or work as engineers, a field American kids are too lazy to pursue, thereby creating a labor shortage that needs to be filled? Or work as translators for the FBI, the US military and the State Department, since most Americans don’t speak Arabic, Pashto or Urdu? Everyone needs to can the rhetoric and face reality on this issue.

  • PamFlorida

    Just voted for McCain-Palin. I live in Wexler’s district and voted for Graber (well known in Broward County politics and good friends with the Clintons), a Dem running as an Indy.
    BTW-Everyone I spoke to in line (waited about 20 minutes) was talking carefuly in PUMA and JSND code. I believe our silent voices will be heard when the votes are tallied.
    Keep the faith and do your part to ensure everyone you know votes.

  • mkm125

    Excellently said–thank you!

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Back in 1980 .. it was thought that Jimmy Carter was going to win .. guess what?? Reagan won in a landslide. What else happened in 1980? The Phillies won the World Series.

    Now it’s 2008, it’s thought that Barack Obama will win … don’t count the MAC out just yet .. remember, the Phillies won the World Series!

    This coming from a Phillies fan and more importantly a proud PUMA!

    Country First! YOU BETCHA!

  • Bob

    Dear Stoogie,

    Since you also believe Larry is God and anyone who who doubts his claims is a heretic, what do YOU think of Malkin? Is she an Obama troll, too?

    I haven’t said anything more than Malkin did, which is simply that the sensational stories Larry has told have turned out to be false. Not debatable, or dubious. False.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Mr. Johnson, thanks for you and the staff at NQ for the awesome efforts and informative site.

    I look forward to the events of the day knowing it will be interesting. BE well.

  • PamFlorida

    BTW-My daughter is editor of her college newspaper which was very pro-Obama in it’s last issue. Most of the students who supported Obama voted early. Yesterday I asked if the paper was going to do a follow-up on the results of the election and she told me they were “politicked out”. Several students I talked to yesterday were unenthused about making time to vote today.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Count two more Volvo driving, Whole Foods shopping registered Democrats voting for McCain/Palin in PA here!

    PUMAs are EVERYWHERE!!!

    Did I mention I was a deadhead in college too? I’m as liberal as they come but I WILL NOT endorse or support a man that lacks integrity, character and most importantly a soul! I may not agree with McCain on many issues but I TRUST him and that he will do what he believes in his heart is the best for this greatest nation on earth!

  • hootnannie

    Bobo has so many bad marks against him that it’s difficult to remember half of them at any given time. Unless nationwide voter fraud is instituted and works well–very well–or unless he is the Antichrist, we will soon be rid of his ubiquitous media presence. Last night, at one of his rallies, he gave one of these “no matter what happens tomorrow” little speeches that smacked, IMO, of a pre-concession bit. Today, at the polls, a young man told me that what finally sealed it for him to vote Mac was “the way they treated Joe the Plumber”. He hadn’t yet heard about skyrocketing energy prices, but I bet a lot of others have. Even yellow dog Dems may have finally given in after all the scandals du jour that have been occurring. If I were Bobo, I would have figured I was a goner for sure after the “spread-the-wealth-around” uproar. And then came the Frisco Chroncile remarks. How does anyone survive this? Normally, no pol does.

  • http://www.justsaynodeal.com princess

    well, gang, after much hullabaloo at the polling station, i proudly cast my vote for mccain/palin and voted for all the gals on the ballot!!!!

    i feel so liberated….from the democratic party….from the fraud….from the ugliness obama’s thuggery….from the vitriolic blogosphere….

    i am united here with the most decent people on the planet – hillary clinton supporters.

    god bless america.

  • Touchet

    I noticed this at my election place. A young couple was talking to an Obama supporter who was going on and on about palin and SNL. The young couple acted, at first, like they were for Obama, untill the Obamacrat started talking about how SNL should make fun of McCain. Then the young couple said, “don’t you think that any of them are fair game”. She just went on bashing without even noticing the comment.

  • Touchet

    I see the opposite occuring. I vote in a predominately African American polling place. Every election I go to, there is nothing but AA there. This morning the Caucasians were out voting. I NEVER see that.

    I think for all the increased voter registration claimed by obama and the tide of AA voters he says is going to put him over the edge. That many and more will vote for Obama for the very same reason—voting for race politics (yes, AA’s are voting for racial reasons, don’t try to front).

    In my county 75,000 white voters to 20,000 AA’s. It all comes down to the white voters. How will they vote?

  • Touchet

    all the girls on my ballot were republicans. I found it very ironic.

  • waldenpond

    I voted early more than two weeks ago. I did not enjoy voting for McCain but he was obviously the better choice of the two.

    There is a count of the early vote. Are we discussing results or is that to wait until the end of the day? I found it humorous that there are a half-dozen states that have legislated a prohibition to releasing exit poll results before their state polls have closed so as not to depress turnout… I live on the West Coast and releasing results from the East Coast has always depressed the West Coast vote.

  • Jules

    So, are you supporting LEGAL immigration or ILLEGAL immigration? I personally fully support LEGAL immigration. If we continue to allow ILLEGAL immigration, we are ALL going to be living in shacks picking lettuce and strawberries for substandard wages because the country is going to be bankrupt.

  • AnninCA

    Great piece, and I, too, hope that much of the fear about Obama evaporates if he is elected.

    However, I’m at ease with voting for McCain/Palin. I think they offer a true shot at reform in Washington. He may not have been able to sell that, but I bought it. I believed him.

    I also think that McCain is moderate in the places I really feel are important: Spending, Taxes, Regulation of commerce, Military actions, Energy, and Immigration.

    Immigration didn’t get much attention. Nobody wanted to touch it. However, I think John will return to his original positions and push through needed legislation fast.

    He was right on the surge. I trust his military judgment.

    He is right about capping spending fast. That’s the quickest way to restore stability.

    He is right about taxes. Obama’s plan is a disaster.

    He is right about Energy. McCain’s record on green is good, and he didn’t get much credit for that fact. His record is, in fact, better than Obama’s.

    I personally thought Palin was a smart pick. Without her? His enthusiasm gap would have ensured that this was going to be a landslide for the Democrats. I noted today that she was cleared, of course, of all hints of impropriety in the troopergate. That pretty much proves that the previous legislative action, which wasn’t even within the bounds of the duties of that group, was nothing more than a Democratic smear job on her.

    I laugh when I read how “divisive” she is. Funny year. She’s divisive because she was female. That’s all. Heaven knows, we don’t want anything competing with the “historical election” label. This is the year of the AA MAN, doncha’ know!

    In any case, John has run a solid, good campaign, proving that Republicans are NOT smear merchants with no sense of integrity and a cynical attitude that winning is all. He played his cards with acuity and decency.

    He was tough on issues, and he refrained from cheap shots.

    I respect that.

    He lacked that verbal charisma that people like so much, however. That’s the only fly in the ointment as far as I could see.

    Regardless of how the election goes, the Republicans now have a roadmap for how to turn the party around to be viable and in a growth phase. Let’s hope wise heads think it through.

    I’m convinced that the Democrats will screw this up badly.

  • Bob

    Again, this is what I’m talking about. Noquarter is Noaccountability and Noreason. Operating logic: If it feeds my prejudices, then it must be true!

    A little review: Larry said on this website in June that his five sources for his “whitey” story were “all Republican.” The promised revelation of his supposed video failed to occur, so he changed his story. In October, he said on this website that two of his “three main sources” for the story were…Democrats!

    For a fanbase obsessed with Obama’s flip-flops and lies, it’s more than a little pathetic that Noquarterbots can’t muster the intellectual courage to address this issue.

  • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

    Done did that. Puma

  • Jules

    Awwww, poor little troll is depressed!

  • Jules

    I know for sure:)

  • Janet Mc

    Larry and Susan – thank you for getting me through this election cycle. You were like a voice in the wilderness of all the media craziness and the dem blogs’ craziness.

    I also don’t believe the polls. I am in NJ. I correspond with a local PUMA group. My whole town is heavily democratic and no one on my street is voting for O. They are all registered democrats. I drive throughout the state for work and I see many more McCain/Palin signs than O/B signs.

    I just voted for a Republican for President for the first time since I voted for Carter in 1976 and it felt great. I also voted for the Republican for Senator.

    I’m glad you came around and voted for McCain, Larry.

  • Bob

    del PUMA says, “My world remains upright!”

    Which, oddly enough, is exactly what Pope Urban exclaimed after Galileo decided it was better to deny the fact of heliocentrism than be burned at the stake for a heretic.

    The streak continues unbroken. Noquarterbots will not discuss the sacred concept of Larry’s infallibility.

  • don tufts

    hey dude since you think barfy is the second coming why dont you volenteer to go live in one of those lovely garden apartments of rezkos in barfys old district and then tell me how well he cares about the little guy,otherwise stfu.

  • Jules

    I did not have a good experience with poll workers this year. My touch screen machine was flipping votes, and when I notified them, they couldn’t have cared less. In fact, those incompetents had allowed it to go on for at least a day…maybe during the entire early voting week. I’m sure most poll workers are fine…but I would say be on the LOOKOUT for anything strange and if you don’t get attention, call the election commission and some of the candidates’ offices that you were trying to vote for. They’ll send out their lawyers.

  • hilldemgoneindie

    noisejoke…
    shut up. oh, i forgot… shut up please

  • hilldemgoneindie

    why are you here, bot bob? in larry’s house? if you were a guest in my house and felt compelled to belittle me, i’d throw your ass out and tell you to never come back again – but, i don’t have the patience of larry. FUCKOFF FO trollbob.

  • Bob

    Still no reply from Dream Warrior on whether Michelle Malkin’s similar criticism of Larry Johnson means she, too, “will believe anything.”

    Let me point out the irony of someone accepting Larry’s phony stories about the Rove indictment and the “whitey” video and then accusing other people of being credulous.

    Ken Silverstein wrote in Harper’s magazine that Larry “never had any credibility, even when what he said was true.” He also said, “when Larry Johnson is the source…only seeing is believing.”

    http://harpers.org/archive/2008/06/hbc-90003027

    Hard to argue with that. Too hard for Larry’s syncophants.

    ——————
    Noquarterbot says: “Must…not…acknowledge…logical…inconsistencies.”

  • Jules

    I don’t know Larry or Michelle Malkin. I have been operating on the assumption that a tape may or may not exist. If it does exist, I don’t hold Larry responsible for not releasing it because he was never in possession of the tape. If the tape does exist (which it may or may not), then I assume it was not released for racial peace reasons. Just because it was not released does not mean by definition that it does not exist. And if you say otherwise, you are the one not doing any critical thinking. Again, I don’t know it exists, but from the things Michelle Obama has said that we know of, as well as her college thesis, I would not be in the least bit surprised if it did. I don’t need a tape to see that Michelle is not very fond of white people.

    And I’m sorry to bum you out, but I did get an A+ in my college logic class.

  • JF

    LJ,

    Thank you for finally writing a respectable post regarding Obama. I am looking forward Obama proving you and most of the commenters on this blog wrong.

    But it should be noted that in your post describing the myriad reasons you have reservations about Obama, you did not articulate what you liked about McCain. This is a consequence of the way GOP campaigns are run – their candidate is nothing special and their issues are not supported by the public, therefore they need to go all out tearing down the Dem candidate. The old lesser of two evils strategy. Fortunately, it didn’t work this year.

  • Hillblazer

    Thank you Larry.

    This blog has been such a source of inspiration.

  • Mary

    Hey Bob….did you read the Robert Rubin (Obama’s economic advisor) article in the NYTimes today suggesting PARTIAL PRIVATIZATION OF SOCIAL SECURITY?

    The streak of misleading lies from Obama to get elected continues UNBROKEN.

    And morons like you are too stupid to get it.

    Prepare to share your wealth, sucker.

    And no whining once you have to.

  • Mary

    “therefore they need to go all out tearing down the Dem candidate.”

    Really??? You mean, like Obama and his surrogates did to Bill and Hillary Clinton?

    Physician, heal thyself.

  • Bob

    You’re here to demonstrate why we still need the Bill of Rights: to protect us from the kind of people you would elect.

    At least Larry’s got the balls to let critics post (if not to answer them). That’s more than you say for yourself.

    You talk this way because you cannot compete in the marketplace of ideas. Come on, don’t be a wuss. Try to say something–anything–about the credibility of Larry’s Rove and “whitey” stories.

  • JF

    Mary,

    Do you deny that the purpose of the GOP campaign and this blog was to tear down Obama or was it to try to inspire the GOP base and independents?

    Unfortunately, you may be too biased and filled with rage and hate that you cannot see something plainly in sight.

  • Bob

    With Larry’s credibility and your supposed logical skills, seeing is believing.

    Let’s see you draw some logical conclusions about Larry’s shifting claims that:

    A) all his sources were Republicans;
    B) the majority of the most important ones were Democrats;

    A) the video “features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan…sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church”;
    B) the video “features Michelle Obama with the wife of Louis Farrakhan” (on a panel not presented by or at Trinity United);

    Here’s a stellar example of clear thinking to help you with this exercise, courtesy of David Weigel at Reason magazine:

    http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html

    Larry, of course, famously told Weigel to “fuck off” when asked about the inconsistencies in his stories.

    I love Weigel’s final word on the matter:

    “Until he comes out with a video tape that shows at least one of the many rumored ‘Michelle speeches,’ I think that’s the last we need to hear from Larry Johnson.”

    Okay, Logic Boy. Ball’s in your court.

  • Bob

    hilldemgoneindie said, “I don’t have the patience of larry. FUCKOFF FO”

    Actually, you do have the patience of Larry:

    http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html

  • DCMediagirl

    First of all, thanks to Bush and the PATRIOT Act, the line between legal and illegal immigration has been blurred if not eliminated. You may not know or believe this, but ICE also rounds up people who are IN STATUS. That’s the reality. As far as the country going “bankrupt”, if that were to happen (which I doubt by the way) it would be the fault of irresponsible bankers who extended credit to every undeserving Tom, Dick and Harry. Immigrants have nothing whatsoever to do with that mess. If consumers want to pay low prices for produce then agribusinesses will continue to employ people whom they can exploit to do their literal dirty work. Likewise people who employ illegal maids, nannies, gardners and other hired help. Let’s get real: these people come here because THERE IS A MARKET FOR THEIR SERVICES. No one is dragging them across the border against their will. I pointed out in my previous comment responding to Brendy that his/her posting was ignorant and racist. Many if not most Indian immigrants are here LEGALLY and work in highly skilled professions. I think people need to be careful when running their mouth or get a little too enthusiastic with the keyboard.

  • Bob

    Streak: unbroken.

  • A.J.

    The Redskins “prediction” streak was broken in 2004. They lost on October 31st and Bush still won.

  • DCMediagirl

    And by the way, I agree with you on race relations. I’m one half of an interracial, interreligous couple and believe me, I’m damn tired of reading and hearing the word “racist” tossed around so loosely. The fact that political rhetoric has devolved to this level is a disgrace and sadly I don’t see an end to that. But just because people are frustrated is no excuse to victimize “brown” people who are “threatening” white people in someone’s fevered imagination.

  • tzada

    Larry, thanks so much for being here for us. I was over at the Political Machine, fighting an uphill battle with all the Obama love from the people who work Someone came in there and sent out an invite to come here. Aside from a stinging attack on them every now and again, I have been right here. I hope you will stay and this site will continue to grow. We can never become complacent again.

    Just got back from sign waving and phone banking. It was awesome here in north Florida. Had one family of 6 all Democrats who said they were casting their votes for the McCain Palin ticket.

    Lots of callers said they were for the Republican ticket, with only 2 who refused to say (Obama)and 1 who said they voted other. Lots of horns and thumbs up.

  • BlueTopaz

    Durban Poison is a herbal product. I had friends from Seth Ifrica (LOLA) who raved about it. The Cape red wine and champagne sounds good, too. I’ll be enjoying or drowning my sorrows with some Aussie Shiraz/Cab. Cheers!!!!

  • http://nonickel.blogspot.com Conscience

    Where’s the ‘whitey’ video, Larry?

  • Jules

    Since you did not specifically answer my question, I will take it that you support ILLEGAL immigration. ILLEGAL = CRIMINAL. It is complete BS to state that there is no difference between legal and illegal immigration. BULL. The U.S. is not “tricking” people into coming here so we can take advantage of them and their cheap labor. Funny how the criminals, YES CRIMINALS, become the so-called victims. No one takes personal responsibility for anything anymore. Just blame Bush and the U.S. for everything. If you don’t think there are serious financial consequences to illegal immigration, take a look at California, Arizona and border states. Look at their bankrupt hospitals because they don’t turn people away for medical care. Who is paying for this???

    You don’t think we should have the right to refuse people with criminal records coming in here to keep our citizens safe? You don’t think any rule of law needs to be obeyed. Just show up and let our country’s taxpayers take care of you?

    Do you know what the penalty is for being illegally in Mexico: 10 YEARS IN PRISON. In the U.S, the penalty is that you get a drivers license, free medical care, shelter and welfare. Illegal immigrants may as well be bank robbers as far as I’m concerned. I know LEGAL immigrants from Mexico, and they do NOT support ILLEGAL immigration AT ALL. It is not fair to the people who follow the law and do it the right way.

  • Jules

    Since I clearly stated that I don’t know Larry, and I don’t know if the tape exists (at least 3 times), why do you therefore conclude that I should defend unproven statements put forth about Larry by you and some other person I don’t know. I don’t have any idea who David Weigel is, and I’m guessing you don’t either. You don’t know whether a tape exists any more than I do. If you know for sure that it doesn’t exist, then you prove it (yes I know it can’t logically be done). Until then, I’ll draw whatever conclusions I want to about Michelle Obama’s character based on my own observations.

    Why have I made up my mind about Michelle Obama? (it’s not based on the mysterious whitey tape by the way)

    1) I have read her entire Princeton thesis in her own words.

    2) I have seen on video in Michelle’s own words: “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.”

    3) On video, for our viewing pleasure, we have her “spiritual advisor” of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, saying GOD DAMN AMERICA, calling us the USofKKKA, and various other atrocious things. She knowingly chose a Black Liberation church and she chose that man to baptize her children. I would not respect ANYONE who sat in that church. And I am not stupid enough to believe the lame excuse “oh I didn’t hear that”. BULL.

    THAT is why I say I would not be surprised by anything anti-white that would come out of her mouth. If there’s no whitey tape, it’s only because the cameras weren’t rolling at the right time.

  • DCMediagirl

    Who said anything about allowing criminals in? Nice way to distort the debate. And do you think that the government should be allowed to conduct warrantless arrests of people who are here legally? To put LEGAL immigrants behind bars and move them from prison to prison? If so you’d LOVE living in a military dictatorship. I personally prefer democracy. And if you’re so concerned about the overburdened healthcare system, why not get the gigantic agribusinesses and millionaires who employ these people for peanuts to kick in their fair share. After all, they’re not paying for their workers’ health care or social security while profiting off their (almost) slave labor. Sounds like a fair trade to me. And don’t put words in my mouth. That’s a cheap tactic and no one is falling for it.

  • Jules

    I mentioned criminals because there can be no background checks on illegal immigrants as they are sneaking into the country. Don’t even try to imply that I was suggesting that all immigrants are criminals. It IS a problem. YOU are distorting. I have never heard one story of conducting “warrantless arrests” except for from you. If anything, I have heard that the ones that DO commit crimes are not even allowed to be asked their immigration status by police.

    Am I to understand you correctly, that you are advocating that rich employers provide healthcare for illegal immigrant workers? Kick in their fair share for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are BREAKING THE LAW. That’s just brilliant. And let’s not forget the FORGED documents that allow these illegal workers to get jobs in the first place.

  • Jules

    Who said anything about allowing criminals in

    ALSO YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE ILLEGALLY ARE CRIMINALS BY DEFINITION.

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