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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1001138</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who said anything about allowing criminals in&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ALSO YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE &lt;strong&gt;ILLEGALLY &lt;/strong&gt; ARE &lt;strong&gt;CRIMINALS&lt;/strong&gt; BY DEFINITION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who said anything about allowing criminals in</p></blockquote>
<p>ALSO YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE <strong>ILLEGALLY </strong> ARE <strong>CRIMINALS</strong> BY DEFINITION.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1001128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned criminals because there can be no background checks on illegal immigrants as they are sneaking into the country.  Don&#039;t even try to imply that I was suggesting that all immigrants are criminals.  It IS a problem. YOU are distorting.  I have never heard one story of conducting &quot;warrantless arrests&quot; except for from you.  If anything, I have heard that the ones that DO commit crimes are not even allowed to be asked their immigration status by police.

Am I to understand you correctly, that you are advocating that rich employers provide healthcare for illegal immigrant workers? Kick in their fair share for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are BREAKING THE LAW.  That&#039;s just brilliant. And let&#039;s not forget the FORGED documents that allow these illegal workers to get jobs in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned criminals because there can be no background checks on illegal immigrants as they are sneaking into the country.  Don&#8217;t even try to imply that I was suggesting that all immigrants are criminals.  It IS a problem. YOU are distorting.  I have never heard one story of conducting &#8220;warrantless arrests&#8221; except for from you.  If anything, I have heard that the ones that DO commit crimes are not even allowed to be asked their immigration status by police.</p>
<p>Am I to understand you correctly, that you are advocating that rich employers provide healthcare for illegal immigrant workers? Kick in their fair share for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are BREAKING THE LAW.  That&#8217;s just brilliant. And let&#8217;s not forget the FORGED documents that allow these illegal workers to get jobs in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000856</link>
		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said anything about allowing criminals in?  Nice way to distort the debate.  And do you think that the government should be allowed to conduct warrantless arrests of people who are here legally?  To put LEGAL immigrants behind bars and move them from prison to prison?  If so you&#039;d LOVE living in a military dictatorship.  I personally prefer democracy.  And if you&#039;re so concerned about the overburdened healthcare system, why not get the gigantic agribusinesses and millionaires who employ these people for peanuts to kick in their fair share.  After all, they&#039;re not paying for their workers&#039; health care or social security while profiting off their (almost) slave labor.  Sounds like a fair trade to me. And don&#039;t put words in my mouth. That&#039;s a cheap tactic and no one is falling for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about allowing criminals in?  Nice way to distort the debate.  And do you think that the government should be allowed to conduct warrantless arrests of people who are here legally?  To put LEGAL immigrants behind bars and move them from prison to prison?  If so you&#8217;d LOVE living in a military dictatorship.  I personally prefer democracy.  And if you&#8217;re so concerned about the overburdened healthcare system, why not get the gigantic agribusinesses and millionaires who employ these people for peanuts to kick in their fair share.  After all, they&#8217;re not paying for their workers&#8217; health care or social security while profiting off their (almost) slave labor.  Sounds like a fair trade to me. And don&#8217;t put words in my mouth. That&#8217;s a cheap tactic and no one is falling for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000694</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I clearly stated that I don&#039;t know Larry, and I don&#039;t know if the tape exists (at least 3 times), why do you therefore conclude that I should defend unproven statements put forth about Larry by you and some other person I don&#039;t know.  I don&#039;t have any idea who David Weigel is, and I&#039;m guessing you don&#039;t either.  You don&#039;t know whether a tape exists any more than I do.  If you know for sure that it doesn&#039;t exist, then you prove it (yes I know it can&#039;t logically be done).  Until then, I&#039;ll draw whatever conclusions I want to about Michelle Obama&#039;s character based on my own observations.

Why have I made up my mind about Michelle Obama? (it&#039;s not based on the mysterious whitey tape by the way)

1) I have read her entire Princeton thesis in her own words.

2) I have seen on video in Michelle&#039;s own words: &quot;for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.&quot;

3) On video, for our viewing pleasure, we have her &quot;spiritual advisor&quot; of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, saying GOD DAMN AMERICA, calling us the USofKKKA, and various other atrocious things. She knowingly chose a Black Liberation church and she chose that man to baptize her children.  I would not respect ANYONE who sat in that church. And I am not stupid enough to believe the lame excuse &quot;oh I didn&#039;t hear that&quot;. BULL.

THAT is why I say I would not be surprised by anything anti-white that would come out of her mouth.  If there&#039;s no whitey tape, it&#039;s only because the cameras weren&#039;t rolling at the right time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I clearly stated that I don&#8217;t know Larry, and I don&#8217;t know if the tape exists (at least 3 times), why do you therefore conclude that I should defend unproven statements put forth about Larry by you and some other person I don&#8217;t know.  I don&#8217;t have any idea who David Weigel is, and I&#8217;m guessing you don&#8217;t either.  You don&#8217;t know whether a tape exists any more than I do.  If you know for sure that it doesn&#8217;t exist, then you prove it (yes I know it can&#8217;t logically be done).  Until then, I&#8217;ll draw whatever conclusions I want to about Michelle Obama&#8217;s character based on my own observations.</p>
<p>Why have I made up my mind about Michelle Obama? (it&#8217;s not based on the mysterious whitey tape by the way)</p>
<p>1) I have read her entire Princeton thesis in her own words.</p>
<p>2) I have seen on video in Michelle&#8217;s own words: &#8220;for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.&#8221;</p>
<p>3) On video, for our viewing pleasure, we have her &#8220;spiritual advisor&#8221; of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, saying GOD DAMN AMERICA, calling us the USofKKKA, and various other atrocious things. She knowingly chose a Black Liberation church and she chose that man to baptize her children.  I would not respect ANYONE who sat in that church. And I am not stupid enough to believe the lame excuse &#8220;oh I didn&#8217;t hear that&#8221;. BULL.</p>
<p>THAT is why I say I would not be surprised by anything anti-white that would come out of her mouth.  If there&#8217;s no whitey tape, it&#8217;s only because the cameras weren&#8217;t rolling at the right time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000541</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you did not specifically answer my question, I will take it that you support ILLEGAL immigration.  ILLEGAL = CRIMINAL.  It is complete BS to state that there is no difference between legal and illegal immigration.  BULL.  The U.S. is not &quot;tricking&quot; people into coming here so we can take advantage of them and their cheap labor.  Funny how the criminals, YES CRIMINALS, become the so-called victims. No one takes personal responsibility for anything anymore.  Just blame Bush and the U.S. for everything. If you don&#039;t think there are serious financial consequences to illegal immigration, take a look at California, Arizona and border states.  Look at their bankrupt hospitals because they don&#039;t turn people away for medical care.  Who is paying for this???

You don&#039;t think we should have the right to refuse people with criminal records coming in here to keep our citizens safe?  You don&#039;t think any rule of law needs to be obeyed. Just show up and let our country&#039;s taxpayers take care of you?  

Do you know what the penalty is for being illegally in Mexico: 10 YEARS IN PRISON.  In the U.S, the penalty is that you get a drivers license, free medical care, shelter and welfare.  Illegal immigrants may as well be bank robbers as far as I&#039;m concerned.  I know LEGAL immigrants from Mexico, and they do NOT support ILLEGAL immigration AT ALL. It is not fair to the people who follow the law and do it the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you did not specifically answer my question, I will take it that you support ILLEGAL immigration.  ILLEGAL = CRIMINAL.  It is complete BS to state that there is no difference between legal and illegal immigration.  BULL.  The U.S. is not &#8220;tricking&#8221; people into coming here so we can take advantage of them and their cheap labor.  Funny how the criminals, YES CRIMINALS, become the so-called victims. No one takes personal responsibility for anything anymore.  Just blame Bush and the U.S. for everything. If you don&#8217;t think there are serious financial consequences to illegal immigration, take a look at California, Arizona and border states.  Look at their bankrupt hospitals because they don&#8217;t turn people away for medical care.  Who is paying for this???</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think we should have the right to refuse people with criminal records coming in here to keep our citizens safe?  You don&#8217;t think any rule of law needs to be obeyed. Just show up and let our country&#8217;s taxpayers take care of you?  </p>
<p>Do you know what the penalty is for being illegally in Mexico: 10 YEARS IN PRISON.  In the U.S, the penalty is that you get a drivers license, free medical care, shelter and welfare.  Illegal immigrants may as well be bank robbers as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  I know LEGAL immigrants from Mexico, and they do NOT support ILLEGAL immigration AT ALL. It is not fair to the people who follow the law and do it the right way.</p>
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		<title>By: Conscience</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000248</link>
		<dc:creator>Conscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the &#039;whitey&#039; video, Larry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the &#8216;whitey&#8217; video, Larry?</p>
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		<title>By: BlueTopaz</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000231</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueTopaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durban Poison is a herbal product. I had friends from Seth Ifrica (LOLA) who raved about it. The Cape red wine and champagne sounds good, too. I&#039;ll be enjoying or drowning my sorrows with some Aussie Shiraz/Cab. Cheers!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durban Poison is a herbal product. I had friends from Seth Ifrica (LOLA) who raved about it. The Cape red wine and champagne sounds good, too. I&#8217;ll be enjoying or drowning my sorrows with some Aussie Shiraz/Cab. Cheers!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-1000125</link>
		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, thanks so much for being here for us.  I was over at the Political Machine, fighting an uphill battle with all the Obama love from the people who work Someone came in there and sent out an invite to come here. Aside from a stinging attack on them every now and again, I have been right here. I hope you will stay and this site will continue to grow.  We can never become complacent again.

Just got back from sign waving and phone banking. It was awesome here in north Florida. Had one family of 6 all Democrats who said they were casting their votes for the McCain Palin ticket.

Lots of callers said they were for the Republican ticket, with only 2 who refused to say (Obama)and 1 who said they voted other.  Lots of horns and thumbs up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, thanks so much for being here for us.  I was over at the Political Machine, fighting an uphill battle with all the Obama love from the people who work Someone came in there and sent out an invite to come here. Aside from a stinging attack on them every now and again, I have been right here. I hope you will stay and this site will continue to grow.  We can never become complacent again.</p>
<p>Just got back from sign waving and phone banking. It was awesome here in north Florida. Had one family of 6 all Democrats who said they were casting their votes for the McCain Palin ticket.</p>
<p>Lots of callers said they were for the Republican ticket, with only 2 who refused to say (Obama)and 1 who said they voted other.  Lots of horns and thumbs up.</p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999813</link>
		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, I agree with you on race relations.  I&#039;m one half of an interracial, interreligous couple and believe me, I&#039;m damn tired of reading and hearing the word &quot;racist&quot; tossed around so loosely. The fact that political rhetoric has devolved to this level is a disgrace and sadly I don&#039;t see an end to that.  But just because people are frustrated is no excuse to victimize &quot;brown&quot; people who are &quot;threatening&quot; white people in someone&#039;s fevered imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, I agree with you on race relations.  I&#8217;m one half of an interracial, interreligous couple and believe me, I&#8217;m damn tired of reading and hearing the word &#8220;racist&#8221; tossed around so loosely. The fact that political rhetoric has devolved to this level is a disgrace and sadly I don&#8217;t see an end to that.  But just because people are frustrated is no excuse to victimize &#8220;brown&#8221; people who are &#8220;threatening&#8221; white people in someone&#8217;s fevered imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999793</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Redskins &quot;prediction&quot; streak was broken in 2004.  They lost on October 31st and Bush still won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Redskins &#8220;prediction&#8221; streak was broken in 2004.  They lost on October 31st and Bush still won.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999781</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Streak: unbroken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Streak: unbroken.</p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999780</link>
		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks to Bush and the PATRIOT Act, the line between legal and illegal immigration has been blurred if not eliminated.  You may not know or believe this, but ICE also rounds up people who are IN STATUS.  That&#039;s the reality.  As far as the country going &quot;bankrupt&quot;, if that were to happen (which I doubt by the way) it would be the fault of irresponsible bankers who extended credit to every undeserving Tom, Dick and Harry.  Immigrants have nothing whatsoever to do with that mess.  If consumers want to pay low prices for produce then agribusinesses will continue to employ people whom they can exploit to do their literal dirty work.  Likewise people who employ illegal maids, nannies, gardners and other hired help. Let&#039;s get real: these people come here because THERE IS A MARKET FOR THEIR SERVICES. No one is dragging them across the border against their will. I pointed out in my previous comment responding to Brendy that his/her posting was ignorant and racist.  Many if not most Indian immigrants are here LEGALLY and work in highly skilled professions. I think people need to be careful when running their mouth or get a little too enthusiastic with the keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks to Bush and the PATRIOT Act, the line between legal and illegal immigration has been blurred if not eliminated.  You may not know or believe this, but ICE also rounds up people who are IN STATUS.  That&#8217;s the reality.  As far as the country going &#8220;bankrupt&#8221;, if that were to happen (which I doubt by the way) it would be the fault of irresponsible bankers who extended credit to every undeserving Tom, Dick and Harry.  Immigrants have nothing whatsoever to do with that mess.  If consumers want to pay low prices for produce then agribusinesses will continue to employ people whom they can exploit to do their literal dirty work.  Likewise people who employ illegal maids, nannies, gardners and other hired help. Let&#8217;s get real: these people come here because THERE IS A MARKET FOR THEIR SERVICES. No one is dragging them across the border against their will. I pointed out in my previous comment responding to Brendy that his/her posting was ignorant and racist.  Many if not most Indian immigrants are here LEGALLY and work in highly skilled professions. I think people need to be careful when running their mouth or get a little too enthusiastic with the keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999773</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hilldemgoneindie said, &quot;I don’t have the patience of larry. FUCKOFF FO&quot;

Actually, you &lt;em&gt;do &lt;/em&gt;have the patience of Larry:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hilldemgoneindie said, &#8220;I don’t have the patience of larry. FUCKOFF FO&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, you <em>do </em>have the patience of Larry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/5897/tuesdays-election-battle/#comment-999694</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Larry&#039;s credibility and your supposed logical skills, seeing is believing.

Let&#039;s see you draw some logical conclusions about Larry&#039;s shifting claims that: 

A) all his sources were Republicans; 
B) the majority of the most important ones were Democrats; 

A) the video &quot;features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan...sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church&quot;; 
B) the video &quot;features Michelle Obama with the wife of Louis Farrakhan&quot; (on a panel &lt;em&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;presented by or at Trinity United); 

Here&#039;s a stellar example of clear thinking to help you with this exercise, courtesy of David Weigel at Reason magazine:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html

Larry, of course, famously told Weigel to &quot;fuck off&quot; when asked about the inconsistencies in his stories.

I love Weigel&#039;s final word on the matter:

&quot;Until he comes out with a video tape that shows at least one of the many rumored &#039;Michelle speeches,&#039; I think that&#039;s the last we need to hear from Larry Johnson.&quot;

Okay, Logic Boy. Ball&#039;s in your court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Larry&#8217;s credibility and your supposed logical skills, seeing is believing.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see you draw some logical conclusions about Larry&#8217;s shifting claims that: </p>
<p>A) all his sources were Republicans;<br />
B) the majority of the most important ones were Democrats; </p>
<p>A) the video &#8220;features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan&#8230;sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church&#8221;;<br />
B) the video &#8220;features Michelle Obama with the wife of Louis Farrakhan&#8221; (on a panel <em>not </em>presented by or at Trinity United); </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a stellar example of clear thinking to help you with this exercise, courtesy of David Weigel at Reason magazine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126883.html</a></p>
<p>Larry, of course, famously told Weigel to &#8220;fuck off&#8221; when asked about the inconsistencies in his stories.</p>
<p>I love Weigel&#8217;s final word on the matter:</p>
<p>&#8220;Until he comes out with a video tape that shows at least one of the many rumored &#8216;Michelle speeches,&#8217; I think that&#8217;s the last we need to hear from Larry Johnson.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, Logic Boy. Ball&#8217;s in your court.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,

Do you deny that the purpose of the GOP campaign and this blog was to tear down Obama or was it to try to inspire the GOP base and independents?

Unfortunately, you may be too biased and filled with rage and hate that you cannot see something plainly in sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>Do you deny that the purpose of the GOP campaign and this blog was to tear down Obama or was it to try to inspire the GOP base and independents?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you may be too biased and filled with rage and hate that you cannot see something plainly in sight.</p>
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