Going Forward With No Quarter

LMAO of course you realize you’re on this site…

youlose:
I am calling you out loud and clear, do NOT, on this site, air your cheap sexism, be a “winner” who has decency, be happy, DO NOT make *any* sexist, misogynyc remarks.

I hope you’re young enough (18-35) to be obligated to do “service” under Obama’s plan for the youth in this country.

Maybe Harriet will flash you as she drives past the young “activists” who will be spending their weekends picking up garbage along our highways.

LIKE HARRIET CHRISTIAN’S SAGGY TITS

The future you voted for. Watch it as it holds to those memories.

Your misogynistic, juvenile and hate filled comments make YOU the loser, and make me secure in knowing that I made the right choice in McCain, and in knowing that a great many Obama supporters are thugs.

This is pretty much what I expected from the low-lifes who have been the life-blood of the Obama campaign. You can’t expect someone to show any class when they’ve never been exposed to it in their lives. And unfortunately, this is what we can expect for the next four years.

I’d said that we can expect social problems no matter who wins, because the Oborg feel that they are now somehow ‘entitled’ to some sort of compensation. The joke’s on them since of course, Obama cares nothing about anyone but himself and they’ve just been fooled by a slick-talking snake-oil salesman. Of course, what’s really funny is that all one had to do was listen with maybe, um, 1/8th of their brains, to realize that it is all a house of cards.

ROFL Thank you so much show what an impact we have.

But I must delight in the hypocrisy even Obama supporters engage in. You dare claim the people don’t have the power?

All evidence to the contrary. Especially Barry’s middle finger flip because he was feeling the pressure. Like he did to Hillary.

But don’t worry, we will be the strong voice for rights, democracy and freedom, so we will be here plugging away and doing something Barry’s own supporters couldn’t do by holding his feet to the fire.

first the BOBO has to get us out of Iraq. We’ll be hearing about his exit strategy as part of his reelection bid sometime in 2012.

Actually, Obama plans to create a tax credit to completely offset the first $4,000 of college, and up to 2/3 of tuition at average public universities, in exchange for 100 hours of community service.

With a democratic congress, that should actually be relatively easy to do.

I haven’t heard anything about doing away with the military.

I don’t think he’s going to get rid of the military anytime soon. He’s going to escalate Afghanistan and there’s talk of another front in Pakistan.

This bot is show us what the election is about to the “youth.” Getting in the face of adults, that’s all they care about. That’s what Obama has programmed them to care about.

Bill,

Congratulations on your new post as Secretary of Education. I hear your assistant will be Bernadine Dohrn and you will increasing the numbers of kids involved in chemistry as a major.

ACORN must be disbanded; you’re right. I’m glad that so many Democrats broke with Obama, but that makes no difference unless they break with their party definitively and quit voting for downticket Democrats who fund ACORN.

The one silver lining we have is that there are (barely) enough Republicans to filibuster Obama.

A vote for downticket Democrats was a vote for one party Obammunist rule, to which we came perilously close.

Agreed… We must do it now before he is installed.

fair reflection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNotZJoZR-4

suckers!

Love,
Bill

he has been waiting all his life for this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

LOL BOBO sells out the forth amendment but it’s the whitey tape you can’t stop complaining about

AT least we’re not as sad as this troll who should be celebrating with the other Obots but instead he can’t stop the hate fest. Obama’s supporters.

the mossad will not allow an anti-israeli president!

Y’all are missing the point!! Supreme ct. is lifetime appointment…She would never RUN FOR OFFICE AGSAIN, and thus, would never be a threat to OBAMA

Her interest is in elected office. USSCt looks powerful, but really is not. Its a bunch of figureheads spending their lives waiting for something that they would like to do and will be allowed to do by each other to come along. Almost never really happens.

I seriously doubt that denizens of N.Q. can keep any conversation civil evgenia. Have you looked at some of the comments by regulars here?

But what the hell, maybe you’re the exception that proves the rule.

It is not taxes that may do in small business owners, it is the credit crunch. Banks are not lending money. Obama could drop capital gains down to zero and small business owners would still be in a bad place. Follow the (lack of) money.

The core economic problem is not taxes, it is wages. Median income has shrunk in real terms while inflation has ticked along at slow but steady pace. Income inequality has gotten steadily worse since Bush came into office. The engine of the economy has always been the middle and working classes. Those are the people going to those trendy restaurants. They are the people who have watched their nest eggs evaporate in the housing market collapse.

And it those people who need tax relief. They are paying a larger portion of their income as taxes and have had more of the tax burden shifted on their shoulders. Meanwhile the very wealthy, the top 1/2 of 1% have made out quite nicely thank you. Well they were until the markets nose-dived. But the super rich can only purchase so many yachts and so many mansions. After that money gets plowed into speculative ventures.

On the other hand Middle Income people spend almost everything they get ( many spent more )putting cash in to the hands of the middle class stimulates the economy. Thus any serious attempt to get the economy out of the doldrums begins with both tax cuts for middle America and a raise of the minimum wage. It is all about putting money in the hands of people who will spend it.

This is known as Demand side economics. The last time it was practice in all its glory was in the post WWII era. It did very well until LBJ tried to pay for Vietnam on the cheep. The economy went sideways until the debt for Vietnam was payed off.

It is not that debt is bad; it is what the debt is used for that is the issue. Using debt to fund long-term infrastructure improvements is critical for the strength of a nation. Using debt to pay for routine government business is a bad idea. Using debt to reward the top 1/2 of 1% of the economic ladder got us were we are today with a busted economy.

But with the economy going south the worst thing we can do now is to compound the error of the Bush Administration by becoming deficit hawks. The Federal Government will have to step in and help strapped citizens and strapped states. Cutting back now would only worsen the economic downturn. The job market is contracting and companies are cutting back in other areas too. Workers need a life-line. Unemployment insurance and job retraining programs are critical. Otherwise unemployed workers will default on mortgages worsening a already toxic real estate market. We can not do as J.P. Morgan suggested in the 1930′s liquidate the farmers, liquidate the banks, liquidate the factories.

It is admirable that you go to school and hold down two jobs. It would be better for all though if you could go to school for free ( as students in California used to be able to in the days before Ronald Regan.) Your energies would be better deployed in learning not hustling to get a buck. It would also be better for all concerned if you did not end up deeply in debt whist getting educated.

Taxes are and shall always be “redistributionist.” The real issue is who gets the money, who gets the benefits. In a very real way you do. You get clean water, safe food, a social safety net, a transportation grid, police, fire; etc. More to the point you get a social structure that has laws that protect the gains you have made. You have courts of law that protect your contractual rights, you have a school system that educated you. Government touched your life every day of your life and in many different beneficial ways. In another place in another time your options would have not been so good. You would more than likely been condemned to a life of servitude. But this society gave you options and it did it via the public sphere. This society set up institutions that invested in you and allowed your hard work to advance your position. Without those public institutions you may not have made it as far as you have. Your family scraped by because of an invisible floor placed by the government (invisible to you at least.) Minimum wage and other laws (let’s hear it for child labor provisions!) supported your mom struggle for self-sufficiency. OSHA and other laws made her work place safe. Clean water acts and CARB made sure the water she drank and the air she breathed was healthful. The FDA made sure the food she consumed and the drugs she took were pure. All these things were done be “redistributing” wealth. Oh let us not forget 101, 280, 880 and other “socialist” schemes that you and mom benefited from. In S.F. you are surrounded by redistributionist schemes, the MUNI, the Embarcadero, parks and gardens of all description; two huge bridges built by other peoples’ money; etc, etc, etc. It’s called the civic space. It is called we the people.

Look around and tell me how all that is working. It works well, it would work better if there was move money invested not less. 101 needs expansion as does the BART; Caltrans needs expansion and schools need massive investment. Thanks to prop 13 California’s infrastructure has steadily decayed. California once lead the nation now it has become decidedly mediocre. Why? Because taxes in the upper incomes have been slashed and corporate taxes have evaporated. Large corporations pay next to no taxes while small and medium business get clobbered. Because progressive taxation is blocked regressive fees and sales taxes crop up like top seed. In reverse Robin Hood fashion those who make the most amount of money pay the least amount of taxes. But somehow no one at N.Q. has a problem with that type of redistribution. No one has a problem with the fact that Warren Buffet pays less of a percentage of his income in taxes than his secretary does. But suggest that maybe ol’ Warren should pay at least the same percentage (or perhaps more because he benefits more from our society) of his income as tax as does his secretary and you get labeled a Marxist.

I think you’re right, Jo. Biden was nothing more that a tool. A low-class white man to garner blue collar white votes.

And the suckers fell for it.

I think Hillary will be forced out completely. All the centrists will have to be run out.

We will have a far right wing party and a far left wing party. For those of us moderates, we are without party and now without country.

“I don’t believe that the candidate we watched will molt into a good president.”

LOL, that is such great imagery…the Big Chicken Who refused to Face Both Clinton and McCain in REAL Debates molts…to nothing but a skinny skin & bones piece of deer-in-the-headlights.

I think we’ll see a sweep of conservative republicans taking office in ’10 too. There’s no funding to do what Senator Obama as promised. Our economy is on life support and unfortunately, it’s global. If we’re lucky, we won’t be any worse off in two years but it’s doubtful we will have seen significant improvement or that Senator Obama will have kept many of his promises.. The Obama voters aren’t going to take that well and they’ll vote out Congress next.

However, there is the wild card of Senator Obama. None of us really know where he stands. Maybe he’ll realize he can’t continue to build the deficit. But even if he starts attacking it, he won’t be doing anything about the promises he made that people voted on.

Senator Obama keeps talking about how we’ll have an uphill hike, how we’ll all have to work hard and sacrifice. But I don’t think one of his voters realizes that pertains to them. They think they’re going to get a nice tax refund, the stock market will climb quickly, there will be no more brokerage, bank, insurance companies failures, their jobs will be secure again.

People want to believe in the best case scenario, we all do, whether be it concerning our health or personal finances. Sometimes I think we voters, despite protestations to the contrary, really do not wan to hear the truth from politicians. We would rather be lied to by charlatans with good slogans. America gets the president it deserves. Two Bush terms and now an Obama presidency says volumes about the dire state of our collective consciousness.

True dat. And it’s so incredibly sad that “Youlose” is too stupid to understand that he was USED.

Youlose will be the first employee (if he’s employed at all) that will be let go by the small business owner facing higher taxes under Obama.

And Youlose won’t have a clue how it happened.

Sad, really.

Don’t worry about typos, and rest assured that you’re not the only one having sleepless nights.

The disaster is not just that Obama won but that every vote for congressional Democrats brought him closer to total control. I hope Democrats here will ponder that.

I’m afraid many of my colleagues at the Confluence are still quite far from grasping how monumentally unwise it was to vote Democratic downticket.

I am wondering how soon the WORMs start. Say, maybe noon today?

That’s the problem will we survive? I have grave concerns about our National security,about Israel’s security.

Even if you are not Jewish people should still want to protect Israel. It would be a Biblical catastrophe if she goes down.

BO and Congress will be able to do pretty much anything they wish!

Phillip, you are in definite need of a reality check! Obama is NOT Bill Clinton.

You mean when the man Obama says was a total failure who’s administration never brought any positive change to the country? Are you talking about BILL CLINTON, the RACIST? I hope you don’t think Barack Obama is BILL CLINTON. Bwhahaha!

What Philip doesn’t understand is that the last the Democrats “were in charge of” this country, that lasted all of two years.
Clinton was elected President in Nov 1992, and took office with a House with 258 Democrats (compared to 176 GOPers) and a Senate with 57 Democrats (compared to only 43 GOPers). With the Congressional elections in 1994, the Democrats lost 54 House seats (putting them in the minority by a 26-seat margin) and 9 Senate seats (putting them in the minority by a 4-seat margin).
And in spite of Bill’s re-election in 1996, the Dems lost another 2 seats in the Senate (although they did pick up 3 whole seats in the House), keeping them in the minority throughout Clinton’s term of office.
When Clinton DID have a Democratic House and Senate, he faced considerable opposition from them on a number of issues. I honestly believe that the Democrats in Congress had become TOO accustomed to playing the opposition–they’d controlled the House solidly from the 1954 election (even then, they’d largely controlled the House from 1932, only losing briefly in the 1946 mid-term elections and the 1952 Presidential election, for a total of only 4 years), and they’d controlled the Senate pretty much the same (beyond the two brief periods already noted, the only difference was the 1980 elections when enough GOPers rode the Reagan coattails to put the Senate in GOP hands for the first 6 years of Reagan’s administration). With THAT kind of power came a genuine hubris–while the Dems controlled Congress, only two Democrats were elected President to more than one term in office, FDR and Bill Clinton. Truman stepped into the Presidency but had lost so much support (as noted by the switch in Congressional power in the 1946 elections) that even members of his own party were expecting to lose the White House in 1948 (he managed to survive, but wisely chose not to run again in 1952, even though he could have–the 22nd Amendment didn’t apply to him). JFK, of course, was assassinated before the end of his first term, and LBJ, who stepped in, managed to win in 1964 (though almost assuredly as a sympathy vote); LBJ, of course, barely managed to survive a Southern Democrat uprising (thanks to the Civil Rights bills–you remember, the ones that Obama attacked Hillary over when she dared note the fact that it took LBJ to actually get the legislation through?) and the toll that Vietnam was taking on his health led him to withdraw his name from consideration. Then, there was Carter, who was elected in the second post-Watergate election (the first in 1974 witnessed a major revolution as Democrats climbed to 60 seats in the Senate and 291 in the House–an increase of 4 and 49 seats, respectively) in a further reaction to Watergate and the negative view of the GOP’s perceived “complicity”. Carter, of course, lost in 1980 (after being challenged by Ted Kennedy–the same man who wanted Hillary to give up and then played a very complicit role in attempting to keep her name from the convention floor), most notably due to the Iran hostage situation; of course, if the Reagan-Bush team hadn’t played politics with the hostages’ lives (as we now know), Carter might have won re-election despite overall general dissatisfaction with his administration. So, that makes 4 Democratic Presidents whose administrations came and went during the Democratic Congressional heyday (except for Truman in 1947-48, ALL of those Presidents had Democratic-majority Congresses through their terms of office). And the second Democrat who would serve two full terms saw “his” Party lose Congress (not that they didn’t deserve it–so many Democrats fought Clinton tooth and nail on gays in the military and health care, just to name a few issues, that they might as well have been the formal opposition; a couple of Democrats even went so far as to switch to the GOP because of their antipathy of Clinton, believing him to be “too liberal”).

No sense in arguing with you guys. You are stuck in your ways. I never voted for Bush, but I gave him a chance and he blew it.

Let’s see what Obama can do. He has a clear, very clear, mandate to take the country in another direction.

He is a smart guy who will figure it out.

Despite your best efforts, he is not a black radical, a Muslim, a terrorist, an uppity, a communist/Marxist or whatever else you guys tried to label him. He is actually pretty straight down the middle.

It will be nice to have someone with half a brain and open to listen to other and different points of view in charge again.

Out with the old guard and in with the new generation.

There is always 2012. You guys can now fight within your Republican party for Palin to take-over, as most of you seemed to be big Palin fans on this website.

I got a lot of amusement from reading the posts on this website. It was truly educational in trying to read the brain of a Republican voter. I think what I take away most is that most of you vote purely on character and not really on policy. 90% of what has been posted on this site had to do with character. Very eye opening. I agree character is important, but policy also matters and maybe even more in these times, and where I disagree is in your only focus was in just trying to tear the other guy down.

See you in four years.

I did it too. I do not intend to idly sit and watch this great country slip in stature. But to hell with the bots. I want to see the cold water of 0bama reality thrown in their faces. He will replace Jimmy Carter as worst Democratic president.

Right now, military and vets have no one on our side when it comes to the issues. If Senator Obama cuts our funding in Iraq, a phrase he uses constantly in his speeches. We will be coming home in body bags. War is not pretty, its not a necessity, but something that happens to come with the job when it warrants it.

This is one of the most troubling aspects of the n0bama win.

Well, I guess that’s one way to feel relevant when in fact, the margin of victory is not relevant at all when there’s been a decisive WIN.

On a side note, I and millions of others will personally donate money to Chris Matthews’ campaign should he decide to run for the U.S. Senate seat in PA.

I hope you all begin to self-reflect on the venom and vile that apparetnly resides within your hearts and minds. It is very ugly and painful to witness.

I guess one could win dishonorably or lose honorably. Both McCain and Obama chose to do what their respective consciences allowed them to do.

well repuglitard actuallly Franken did not lose.. it’s way too close to call and I’m sure there will be a recount.

Al Franken happens to be a smart good guy. Not that repugs care anything about real character in a person.

I used to tune into his radio show yrs ago and was shocked, nicely surprised at his compassion and utter respect for the ole time die hard republicans he talked to on the phone.

repugs just have no clue.. they wouldn’t recognize a truly decent human being if it crossed their path and they stumbled over it.

I agree I thought the fawing would of slowed down this morning and we now get back to serious business, but FOX was at it, dripping all over the Obama win, not one word about the markets overseas as they normally did during the election.

I see there is a little news coming out of Russia this morning not one word of that either, we are still in the Obama mode, oh well I really feel its going to be months of this until some nut decides to take another crack at the USA and then that would
wake all of them up

Good one may I pass it on?

Bravo. I think there is a distinct possibiity you are spot on.

A comment I heard this morning:

First thing Obama should do is go across the street to the Treasury Department and count the money. Then we’ll see what he thinks he can do.

Of course, we all know he supports ACORN, Fanny/Freddie and bailouts so maybe counting the money won’t register with him as to the idea of paying for things as we go.

Ever notice how we never get Obots here who want to have a proper debate? They just do drive-bys, spewing barely literate insults. That suggests to me the low character of the Light-Bringer’s army of fanatics.

Yes, I expect the “Hot Air” BS Express to continue. Obama’s tax plan: If you have a job, write a check for you annual gross salary and send it in.

interesting question.. I believe it would be biden.

i read up awhile back on the rules of who can be a vice president.. whether x pres’s can turn around and be a VP– it was very detailed and interesting.. basically it came down to the 8 yr max for a pres.. and it affects the vp, etc etc..

but that’s an interesting question– i’m assuming once elected it’s official and the vp would be the official 2nd guy in command

Bravo, Mercedes. I’m with you on this.

I was just thinking about how now I can consider myself a true independent. As an independent, I will criticize anyone and everyone in public service who does not do their job and does not do the best thing for the country. No more giving any of them a ‘pass’ because of their party affiliation. This has gone on too long and I was as guilty as any of allowing this to happen.

It wasn’t until my vote was taken away by the Chicago thugs that I realized that the DNC had used me just like the RNC has used the people all these years.

Whine, whine, whine. No moral compass? WHat a laugh.

I know only two things – Barack Obama will be the 44th president of the US, and you whiners will whine more.

If what you are trying to say is that policy statements without trustworthiness, courage of character, experience or a solid moral system to back them up is equivalent to “I can break any law, circumvent any ethic…that’s a distracting smear, let’s talk about tax cuts” and “the end justifies the means” — sorry — I’m a firm believer in the old adage “actions, not words.”

Ever shifting positions with no realistic strategy for accomplishment or follow through simply won’t cut it. I’m even less convinced by statements of “straight down the middle” with no attempt at a backup citation.

Soldier, I pray that you are right.
I think the Palin/Jindal ticket will generate a lot of buzz in 2012.
By then they will be the “change” candidate and luster will have worn off of Hussein.

I am so glad the site will continue as we democrats and former democrats hold Hussein accountable for all of his false promises for the next four years.

what a load of horse bum-

“soldier of christ”

go study your bible and leave intellectual thinking to others-