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Obama Coerced into Going After Bin Laden

* Bumped Up *

I’ve learned some things from friends who are still active that dramatically alter the picture the White House is desperately trying to paint. Here is what really happened. The U.S. Government learned of Bin Laden’s whereabouts last August when a person walked into a U.S. Embassy and claimed that Pakistan’s intelligence service (ISI) had Bin Laden under control in Abottabad, Pakistan. Naturally the CIA personnel who received this information were skeptical. That’s why the CIA set up a safehouse in Abottabad in September 2010 as reported yesterday in the Washington Post.

The claim that we found Bin Laden because of a courier and the use of enhanced interrogation is simply a cover story. It appears to be an effective cover story because it has many Bush supporters pressing the case that enhanced interrogation worked. The Obama operatives in the White House are quite content to let the Bushies share in this part of the “credit.” Why? It keeps most folks from looking at the claims that don’t add up.

Anyway, the intel collection at the safe house escalated and the CIA began pressing Pakistan’s ISI to come clean on Osama. And their response? They outed the CIA Chief of Station in December. This was not in retaliation per se for the civil suit filed in November accusing some ISI officers of playing a key role in the December 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack, but that was seen as part of the broader pressure the CIA was applying to Pakistan.

And who was behind this?

Leon Panetta. I have been critical of Panetta of late and must eat some crow. Once it was clear that the information from the walk-in was accurate, Panetta set up a reporting chain from the Pakistan station direct to him. This information did not go through normal DO channels. It went straight to the Director. By January 2011 there was a high degree of confidence that Bin Laden was in the house (which was in essence a ISI “jail” for keeping tabs on UBL). We had also learned that key people in Saudi Arabia were sending Pakistan money to keep Osama out of sight and out of trouble. That’s why you haven’t seen any UBL spectaculars during the last five years. They had him in terrorist time-out.

Anyway, back to Panetta. The CIA chief wanted to pull the trigger in February. Don’t know if you have seen the blog featuring comments by a person claiming to be an Obama insider (i.e., Ulsterman. I was skeptical of this person before but, based on what he/she has written on this subject and given the independent sources I have, I would peg Ulsterman’s accuracy at more than 80%. Valerie Jarrett led the charge resisting the push from Panetta to go after UBL. Obama initially sided with Jarrett. The White House spin that Obama had to persuade senior advisors to go after Osama is pure unadulterated bullshit. He was the one dragging ass.

In fact, according to someone who was privy to the decision making process, Hillary played a major role in backing up Leon Panetta and finally convincing Obama to act.

Here’s some very interesting questions that need to be answered? Why are the SEALs who went on this mission being pressured after the fact to sign non-disclosure agreements regarding this particular incident? What happens when members of the House and Senate Intel Committees learn that Osama was not buried at sea?

Lots of unanswered questions. The only thing we know for sure per the SEALs who carried out the op is that Bin Laden is dead. And, if not for the perseverance of Panetta, the mission would never have happened. Leon, I am sorry I ever thought ill of you. You were unafraid to do what needed to be done and didn’t care what happened to your self. That, my friends, is true courage.

  • Cindy

    Thank you, Larry!

  • felizarte

    I was sure that sooner or later, we would learn the FACTS from Larry.  Thanks.  I hope you would be able to ferret out the facts re burial at sea sooner than Congress. Again, thank you.

  • oowawa

    “What happens when members of the House and Senate Intel Committees learn that Osama was not buried at sea?”

    This is the bombshell that had us wondering WTF after the first hour of the John Batchelor broadcast a couple of nights ago.  Question for Larry: do you think that this information will sooner or later become public, or will it be completely “buried at sea” and remain mythic (I can picture someone coining a new term of disparagement: “sea-deniers,” or “mountain dumpers.” 

    In any case, government credibility is the issue.  Is this going to remain another loose-end that keeps us wondering?

  • HARP

    We all know how patriotic Barry is.

  • HARP

    Ed Schultz just said:
    President Barack Obama, he waves the flag, too. Come on, Nashville! Give me a song! If you won’t do it, we’d like to hear from our viewers. If you have a patriotic song or even a rendition of another song already in the can and ready to go, you can go to our blog at Ed.MSNBC.com and leave a link to it.
    We’ll check them out and maybe even play it on the air, because I think President Obama and the SEALS deserve a song from those fun loving American rednecks in Nashville, Tennessee who love Democratic presidents, and it doesn’t matter who the president is, what color he is, what his background is, what his education is, he’s an American. Give me a song.

    Well, MR. ED, you asked for it!!!
    Obama:  I Am My Sunshine!!!
    To The Tune of You Are My Sunshine
    by Squeeky Fromm

    I am my sunshine,
    My only sunshine.
    I make ME happy
    Most every day!!!
    You’ll never know just
    How much I love ME.
    Please don’t take the spotlight away!!!
    The other night when
    The Seal team went in,
    I watched the whole thing on TV.
    I had my little
    Toy gun and holster
    Oh, the last word in AWESOME is ME!!!
    I am my sunshine,
    My only sunshine.
    I make ME happy
    Most every day!!!
    You’ll never know just
    How much I love ME.
    Please don’t take the spotlight away!!!
    And when they shot him
    I nearly passed out.
    I just kept thinking “Twenty Twelve.”
    A headline story!!!
    I’ll grab the glory!!!
    This is sooo good for my self.
    I am my sunshine,
    My only sunshine.
    I make ME happy
    Most every day!!!
    You’ll never know just
    How much I love ME.
    Please don’t take the spotlight away!!!
    I think I will go
    Up to Ground Zero
    And hang around the N.Y.F.D.
    My victory lap
    Gives Trump a big SLAP!
    Making this all about ME!!!
    I am my sunshine,
    My only sunshine.
    I make ME happy
    Most every day!!!
    You’ll never know just
    How much I love ME.
    Please don’t take the spotlight away!!!
    I’ll go pin medals
    On all the SEAL guys.
    Making sure cameras are everywhere.
    I might regret it,
    Sharing the credit.
    But I guess, its only fair.
    I am my sunshine.
    My only sunshine
    I make ME happy
    Most every day!!!
    You’ll never know just
    How much I love ME
    Please don’t take the spotlight away!!!

    SO THERE!!!
    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  • Larry Johnson

    Absolutely BRILLIANT!!  Well done.

  • Steve Diamond

    I have tried to analyze the Ulsterman/White House Insider story on my blog here:

    http://stephen-diamond.com/?p=3545

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Leon Panetta. I have been critical of Panetta of late and must eat some crow.
    ================
    You couldn’t have known. I’m glad Panetta was on the ball but you’ve been correct all along about the miscues on both sides of the aisle and that is one reason I come to this web presence. I trust your opinion because you make no bones about it, correct yourself when you’re wring and insist others do as well.

    Chalk it up to discovering that you’re suddenly from Missouri.

  • PssttCmere

    HARP….Squeeky Fromm…lmao. 

    If those in the electorate cannot comprehend what barry is doing and what he stands for, they must be pretty damn stupid!!  That includes John Kerry who was on Face The Nation and trying to put lipstick on the obl pig…

    Larry….didn’t they say there was only a 50/50 chance obl was even at the target area?  If the answer is yes, are those good odds for one of these missions?  Asking, as I really don’t know.

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Leon Panetta. I have been critical of Panetta of late and must eat some crow.  
    ================  
    You couldn’t have known. I’m glad Panetta was on the ball but you’ve been correct all along about the miscues on both sides of the aisle and that is one reason I come to this web presence. I trust your opinion because you make no bones about it, correct yourself when you’re wrong  and insist others do as well, including us regulars. I wouldn’t have it any other way. Keep hammering at them. We’re behind you.
     
    Chalk it up to discovering that you’re suddenly from Missouri.

  • DM

    Larry, I take everything you and Ulster say with a bit of skepticism, not because I doubt your accuracy, but because sometimes, in cases like these, there’s lots of information that’s not right that’s given out on purpose to create a murky view of the truth.  But one thing I’m confident about, Hillary Clinton was key to the capture of OBL.  She must have known specific information when back in 2009, when she testified before congress, she accused Pakistan of helping the Taliban and “extremists”.  For Hillary to be that blunt, it means that she wanted action from Pakistan to come clean.  If someone came to the U.S. Embassy and exposed the location of OBL, it must be because the person leaking the information trusted Hillary.  It must have been an Pakistani who maybe met Hillary and understood that he/she could depend on Hillary.   She is a great servant and Obama should come clean and give her all the laurels she deserves, but he won’t because he’s too chicken shit to do it.

  • Dave

    Who is Valerie Jarret and why would anyone listen to what she has to say.. Is she Obama’s nanny ?  Its time for all of the info to be made public, and Obama held accountable for his inaction on everything.  Poor clueless Barry, this is what happens when you have been carried your entire life, when you have to makea decision, you won’t or can’t ! This country will not recover if this idiot is reelected..

  • DM
  • Liz

    Read Ulsterman if you want to know about nanny Jarrett. She was Mrs. O’s boss in Mayor Daley’s office before Jarrett left to become a slumlord and Mrs. O left to become a PR hack at the U of C hospital.

  • Cindy

    It’s good to see that this story has legs, Diamond.

  • Noogan

    I saw that post from Ulsterman ["the insider"] on Tuesday, and posted it here. At the time, I just wasn’t sure, but I thought it rang absolutely true regarding Obama. He’s a complete coward, worse, a calculating coward, who doesn’t have the courage OR the convictions of a true leader. It’s always about what’s best for Obama. Valerie Jarrett is his true soul-mate-without-a-soul.

    But, ahem, this WAS pretty funny, Larry, even though it probably wasn’t intentional:

    “Anyway, the intel collection at the safe house escalated and the CIA began pressing Pakistan’s ISI to come clean on Obama.”


    :-D

  • painkillerJayne

    reason I come to this web presence

    We have all known Barry was a fraud since day ONE.

    There are some really brilliant and funny people here. Things are such a quagmire somedays I can’t byt type lmao. If MSM were doing their jobs this classic f-up would never have been.

    Ferd Harp katmoon larry and ooowawa and the rest of you have kept me sane.

    There are a lot of us here that have been around for what seems ages…………and how many times can you acknoweledge Barry is fraud?

    The dude is wet behind the ears and IS NO LEADER of the greatest nation on earth.

    2012 can’t come soon enough. And from what I have been reading about his visit to the WTC site peeps are not pleased.

  • Hokma

    Wow. This is must reading. This is what journalism is supposed to be – not just BS Obama propaganda and spin.

    What you said makes perfect sense because I was having a problem seeing Obama as a commander after what he has done over the past few years.

    I would bet that Panetta and Clinton were probably not only convincing but had to resort to forceful convincing to get Obama to once not listen to his far left socialist advisors.

    My guess is that what did it was Panetta and Clinton probably being brutally honest that if word that Obama backed out of a hit on Bin laden his re-election chances would be ZERO. 

  • painkillerJayne

    Liz…you mean the job for 300k that went away after Mrs. O left?

    How about some pay to play investigations?

    Eric?   Eric?    Eric?

  • Liz

    Yep that one.

  • Still4Hill

    The other clue we all missed, because it is easier to monitor what IS said and done than what is not, is that since Hillary left Pakistan last summer (she was there July 19 & 20 after a stop in Afghanistan  - raids uncovered planned attackes in both cities after her departure), we have mot heard her mantra that OBL is in Pakistan.  She had been saying that pretty regularly up until then, and I am sure no one can find even a brief allusion to it following August of last year.  

    http://still4hill.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/lord-keep-her-safe/

    If I had been paying attention, I might have noticed that there was something odd about her sudden silence on this.  I am not sure I would have inferred that it was true and there were ops underway.  Probably not.  Anyway, good for her!  

  • Hokma

    I just referred this to the world – well at least my world.

    This it the greatest insight into the Obama White House yet. The man is still an absentee manager – leading from behind.

    And he had the audacity to do a victory lap?

    My only question is whether Panetta’s move to head Defense was a reward or to get him out of the CIA?

  • Diana L. C.

    That “craftiness” may be admired by the ancient Greeks–I am specifically thinking of Odysseus and Diomedes’ beheading of Dolon after falsely promising him his life if he tells them what they want during their night mission late in the Trojan War–(and though I waver here because of my great love of this epic and the Greek myths and stories) ultimately I believe Americans prefer honestly, straightforwardness, bravery, and sound principles of right and wrong in our heroes.

    So many on a few of the earlier posts mentioned Truman, and though I don’t recall anyone actually pointing to the “buck stops here” quotation (and I apologize if someone did), I prefer a POTUS in these times who would also take that stance.

    Obami is a weasel and snake. 

    So, Mr. Diamond, while I understand your analysis and give it credit, the nitpicking about the word “coup” just doesn’t matter to me.  Mr. Panetta be praised for his bravery in this?

  • Diana L. C.

    Noogan–I remember your initial post.  I seconded your feeling that the information in it rang true to O’s character (or should I say “lack therof”?).

  • Katmoon

    Yes, Noogan and Diana, I remember the post as well, and that was the one thing that stayed with me through out the last few days.

  • guest

    Diana L.C., Very well said. Who would have thought ‘calling present’ is a way of governing much less a winning strategy?

  • kinthenorthwest

    Due to all the changing stories I felt in my gut something was not right about the whole incident within a day.(Actually within minutes the burial at sea had me  wondering).

    Yet part of me kept saying that is was just Obama and his minions who seem to mess up everything they talk about.

    So I wonder how long it will be before we get the real story out there and Obama starts tossing people under the bus.

  • Katmoon

    Painkiller, I have come here for a few years now, and it is becuase of this very type of story LArry is sharing, and yes I compliment him often, but this has been my politicalsanctuary, I need to hear what people write here, and say here.  Sometimes I get worried when I don’t see as many psoters,but then I remember people do have lives; not to mention how exhausting the last week ahs been news/politics wise. I appreciate what you are saying about how many times can we say Barry is a fraud? We will always know this, what is disturbing is the opposition knows it as well and doesn’t seem to carry. I think also we have now moved from fraud to full blown, visible incompetence; so dangerous, so impeachable.(In my dreams).

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    My only question is whether Panetta’s move to head Defense was a reward or to get him out of the CIA?
    ================
    That’s a great question, Hokma. Any answers from others?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    What happens when members of the House and Senate Intel Committees learn that Osama was not buried at sea?
    ==========================
    That they come to the late-in-the-game epiphany that Feckless Leader is not only a liar but a sanctimonious, two-faced, multi-personalitied sociopath with delusions of grandeur? I mean. really, how much self-serving bullshit can one individual spout before someone calls that person on it?

  • Katmoon

    Exactly, and why is it being ignored? Get ready for a whole big dish of pulling a “birther” on Larry and NQ, when it does hit the mainstream. You will see bots like you never have before, just warning that we haven’t witnessed a backlash the likes of which we will see-because you can hear that (Ting) Ring of truth, in this story, and realted references. It is their own fault for all the stories and crap that has been put out, so when we have a well established, version with accountability and verifiability up there in the 80%, of course we look at and compare what has come before from these actors, and what we see now, and we aren’t pleased at being played, or being played with. I also appreciate Larry being a gentleman to Panetta in his words in this article, well done and well said. It isn’t easy, especially with the passion we all have, expressed clearly in the writings and blogging.
    I think we will see this go public when another piece of the older puzzle falls apart, or if Larry(this blog)are seen as a threat, the dogs will be called out.
    I know we need to get back down to our business here, but does anyone honestly think if the extent of cover-up/foul up has gone to this degree-that anything and everything coming from this point to general election forward isn’t some sort of questionable story, then I congratulate you on I trust I no longer have. I know we will have others, knowing and seeing what legislation is happening, but damned if this same crew didn’t stick it to us in hidden legislation within the legislation of the health care bill, now we see a carnival ride instead of a story we can be proud of, as it relates to all that has been given, given up and taken away becuase of the acts of OBL.  My question is, Would there be some advantage to purposely screwing up the mesage making it so convoluted? Is it to further dull the American people into submission?

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    The claim that we found Bin Laden because of a courier and the use of enhanced interrogation is simply a cover story. It appears to be an effective cover story because it has many Bush supporters pressing the case that enhanced interrogation worked.
    =================
    What better way to make neocons take a nap but stroke their overinflated egos and assure them that they were correct. Bah. This is a ploy by That One and because the neocons are so enamored of themselves, they’ll fall for it.

    There’s a lot of stupid to go around, apparently, and many are standing in line twice to get it.

  • Docelder

    Is she Obama’s nanny ? Just one of the post turtle facilitators.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    And this is exactly why many of us were hesitant in heaping praise upon Obama after the takedown of bin Laden. From the get-go, his speech last Sun. night was contradictory, and things have only gone downhill from there.

    I am glad to learn that Ulsterman is more correct than not – s/he has said some mighty interesting things, from what I have seen, especially abt how much power Jarrett wields in the WH.

    Yes, this does raise even more questions. Thanks, Larry, for this critical update!

  • tango

    So if OBL wasn’t buried at sea, where was he buried? Or is his body on ice somewhere?

    So, does a SEAL have to sign a non-confidentiality agreement if presented? Wouldn’t a mission being Top Secret be enough (since I assume that mission was TS in regards to secrecy) to keep anyone from talking?  Lastly, even if the SEALS don’t talk, do you think Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Gates, etc, might in their memoirs?  Or do they still want to protect Obama to some degree?

  • Madame De Farge

    Katmoon, perhaps distraction or putting out verious versions in order to call his opponents crazy should they use one to challenge “the official story”.  I’m sure the DNC is just waiting to see which one The Tea Party picks up.

  • Katmoon

    Ok, from this point forward please understand the damned typos are fingers that don’t work so well some days, not the brain. So embarassing.

  • Madame De Farge

    and this one as well!

  • felizarte

    The initial insider account said that Gates and Clinton stood behind Panetta squarely.  Having the backing of Panetta might gain him trust and respect within the DOD like Gates; Petraeus to CIA maintains that cooperation between the CIA and DOD.  It should ease the confirmation process.  Panetta’s demonstrated loyalty to his intelligence team should speak well for him with the DIA who would expect the same kind of backing from the ‘Boss.’  With Hillary as the third leg of the triangle, Samantha Powers, Jarrette and Obama would become even more paranoid, especially because Bill Daley has an independent streak with an inclination to side with the more intelligent line of actions.  This should be very interesting from here on.  We should watch for additional personnel to try and neutralize these three.

  • Madame De Farge
  • Madame De Farge

    This one reminds me of The Won as well…

  • elizabethrc

    Obama is far worse than merely being a coward.  He is a duplicitous anti-American who is willing to bend over backward to appease his muslim brothers.  He’s shown clearly where his sympathies lie, even in his book where he says if the winds go against them, he’ll side with the Muslims.  What else do people need to see to make them wake up?  It is beyond me, this rather infantile need to make Obama a super hero.  If his teeth were not so white and less straight, I wonder if they would worship at his feet as enthusiastically.  It’s all quite disgusting and disturbing that so many American can be so clueless.

  • elizabethrc

    According to Ulsterman, Daly was part of the pressure group.  Think of it, his own Chicago guy going against him. 
    Is this the point where the adults around him have had enough and are ready to stage a coup?  Indeed, wasn’t this a coup in itself?
    I see hard times ahead for Obama.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Wouldn’t a mission being Top Secret be enough (since I assume that mission was TS in regards to secrecy) to keep anyone from talking?
    ================
    That should be the end of it. Apparently That One doesn’t understand clearances, either. What a dope.

  • Cindy

    Madame—-Oui, oui!
    That’s so perfect….and I’m sure he has had it piped into the public address system at the Whie House!

  • Cindy

    Katmoon—-totally understand! I type using the old hunt-and-peck method (and using my two middle fingers), plus, I haven’t seen my spellchecker option in a couple of years—don’t know what happened to it…SO, fret not!  We love your writing!

  • Hokma

    When I was in college I did a study of the Nixon Administration and based on changes in the organization and lines of reporting it was apparent that Henry Kissinger was running foreign policy as well as having many domestic departments reporting into him as he head of National Security.

    In the Obama Administration it would appear that Obama is not in charge at all. It would appear that Valerie Jarrett and his left wing socialiats have been running this mess. But now countering that are the grown ups: Hillary, Panetta, Dailey, and Gates.

    I wonder if Obama is going to get rid of that Chicago socialist crowd and stick with the grown ups now?

  • Madame De Farge

    He’s very well known on the Monterey Peninsula and he’s always come across as Mr. Mulquetoast.  So who knew?  I’m very glad Larry has clued us in.

    After he left DC, I had a brief encounter with him (he was shopping for his wife) and mentioned that we needed him back in office (duriing Bush’s term when I hated him) and he actually blushed and said he and Syliva liked it in Carmel Valley just fine. Hmmm, never thought he was a crook but who knew he was that tough in the trenches.

  • Hokma

    Someone will talk someday. That is a certainty. I do not think it will be Panetta, Clinton, or Gates. I would think it would be someone with first hand knowledge and whose name the public will not recognize.

  • Rosemary

    Interesting intel, thanks Mr. Johnson.  Hopefully more sources will emerge.

    By the way, there is a typo in your title, also a few in the article.

  • AC

    My question is, Would there be some advantage to purposely screwing up the mesage making it so convoluted? Is it to further dull the American people into submission?
    **********************
    Excelent question Katmoon, and of course the answer is Yes!  It’s misdirection that Obama learned from his cousing Dick “we know where the bombs are” Cheney.
    Lying sacks of shit all of them.

  • Larry Johnson

    Nope.  Confidence was well above 80%

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Lying sacks of shit all of them.
    =================
    Spot on, AC. They’re all braying jackasses.

  • painkillerJayne

    So I wonder how long it will be before we get the real story out there and Obama starts tossing people under the Ocean Liner.  <—–Fixed that for ya Kin…………

    and ty for letting me know who was ousted on the apprentice last Sunday.

  • painkillerJayne

    Ferd they all invested at this point……….they all need to be voted OUT!

  • HARP

    Just a small point. In the video, Osama is using his right hand to operate the remote. Bin Laden is left handed. My wife is left handed and she always uses her left hand for this task.

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    Agreed, pk.

  • Cindy

    Madame—-great story!

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    I would think it would be someone with first hand knowledge and whose name the public will not recognize.
    ================
    I think so, too, but it won’t be those involved on the ground, i.e., the Seals.

  • Lana

    Two questions I have that have been dropped from the media:

    What happened to the son that was supposedly captured?

    What about the daughter’s version that bin Laden was captured and then shot? That would negate the narrative that he was retreating going for guns.

    Have these questions been answered and I just missed them?

  • HARP

    Randi Rhodes Insists Bush Team Knew For Years of Osama’s Suburban Location
    A comment from this site:

    That he knew where he was means that the CIA could monitor communications and see who came and went. Thus preventing another major event or at least knowing who went where so they could track them and see who they were meeting with. But now Obamaommunist revealed all the secrets discovered and now they can change all their plans. I still want to know why Obama the Communist waited so long, could it be for political reasons? and the day of the attack he took so long to make a decision, was he warning friends to get out of the area?

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/05/08/randi-rhodes-insists-bush-team-knew-years-obamas-suburban-location#comment-1484102#ixzz1Lo9EAjna

  • PUMA GSD

    Does the WH think all Arabs look alike???

  • Katmoon

    For you Docelder.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Pain—–ROFL……
    Yea I dont think the bus can take anymore LOL

  • kinthenorthwest

    So Bill and Bush want nothing of this for Very good reasons…

    Is this going to be a Watergate?????

  • kinthenorthwest

    I have a feeling that the top will blow in a short period of time.  Maybe not before the 2012 elections, but it will blow….Too many people involved in the act…
    You got to remember there are quite a few ears in the WH, quite a few ears on the ship where the Seals were, & probably where they gassed up…

    Eventually what goes in one’s ear comes out of the mouth…

  • Justine

    So, what is the deal with OBL’s body? 
    .

  • Diana L. C.

    LJ,

    Your question is tantalizing:  What happens when members of the House and Senate Intel Committees learn that Osama was not buried at sea?

    But since my mind can sometimes turn toward the morbid, I wonder this: Is it possible that BHO is now playing Rose to OBL’s Mr. Barron (as in Faulkner’s most excellent short story)?

    (I’ll apologize in advance for the yuckiness of my suggestion.)

  • Hokma

    Dailey is from Chicago and originally part of the Chicago crowd but he moved beyond that some time ago and is his own man now. Obama has a choice to either follow the advice of the grown ups as you said or move away from them and back to his base. How we will see just how smart Obama is or is not.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Very Good Questions….
    Also what happened to all the media that was coming out about Obama’s Father…

  • Ferd Not-My-Site-(click to edit) Berfle

    All I can surmise is that it is lifeless.

  • IADK3SLT guest only

    Well then Larry, that means I was correct.  It’s time everyone faces the reality of this Presidenot.  He is an inexperienced, over his head, community organizer PUPPET, who did this ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS LOW POLL NUMBERS.

    Everything out of this man is in support of whom he “OWES”, whether it be Muslim Bros or GE/NBC or his radicals views or POLITICS and the MARKETING of him.

    Yes, they knew of Osama Bin Living for months. Barry said he didn’t want to bomb the compound he wanted proof of death(didn’t work out so well on THAT front)(since March or Feb). So then he sat on the op until his numbers were plummeting and folks don’t believe much of his claims on religion, views or birthplace.  A rough way to start his reElection campaign. Panetta / Clinton finally won, with the insight of Americans and The Donald.

    But, leave it to Barry from Hawaii, he even makes one successful act, a nightmare.  He makes this all about himself, as if HE went and got Bin Laden, making campiagn photo ops on finally agreeing to give the order BEFORE he moved (more rumors, or maybe a tale to get Barry to let him to act).

    This was all politics.  Pathetic that our President was sitting on Osama Bin Livings location and not acting, because his allegiance is with opposite of Americans.  And isn’t THAT a mouthful?

  • cookiegramma

    I’m not really sure that the Tea Party is following any of the stories that have been put out. The news was mentioned at the last meeting I attended, but we quickly moved on to other matters. If the DNC thinks that they will be able to use any of this to attack they are really unbalanced about the direction of the group.

  • IADK3SLT guest only

    And, if Osama Bin Lost story that others are claiming, he he was jettisoned over the Hindu mountains is correct, they better hope he aint Vulcan!

    And, I believe we have a #3rd is a charm….where as this must also mean they too now know Al Gore and the IPCC’s Global Warming claims are bunk and expecting the snow to civer his ass for decades to come!

  • kinthenorthwest

    PUMA — Dont they LOL

  • Mr. Natural

    If the MSM were doing their job, this would be Obama crapping in his hat and having it run down the back of his neck.

    Instead, some Designated W.O.R.M.-Sayer (“What Obama Really Meant”) will cough up an official, “I did a bone-headed thing again!” excuse. 

  • required reading

    What makes this very detailed account so believable is the line that “Obama tried to have it both ways” – get credit if the plan worked and not take the heat if it didn’t: Obama’s always trying to have it all ways and be all things to all people; to take credit for other peoples’ work and to avoid blame when it is clearly his.

  • Dorinda

    When did the revelation about doubting the burial at sea?  I’ve totally missed that.  Links, anyone?

  • Blue Moon

    Larry, if UBL was not buried at sea where did they put him?  Also, very interested in the report they took OBL’s son alive.  If so, what happened to him?  I thought at one time it was said his son would be taking over for him.  What this the son? 

    Another interesting thing about his trip to Fort Campbell, our governer Mr. Steve Beshear did not attend the trip to Ft. Campbell and has been trying his best to explain why he did not attend.  My, My, NO ONE wanted to be seen with Odumbo on his “Trip of Praise” for what he did.

  • required reading

    Exactly, Hokma: Professor Diamond put what you wrote this way in his “Insider” article posted upstream, and this is what will continue to weaken the Administration, given its left-wing base:

    “While Insider sees this division as a bureaucratic one, it is most likely a reflection of the very deep divisions within the Democratic Party itself between the politically correct, multicultural pseudo-left wing and the traditional establishment liberal wing of the Party. This ideological divide in the Party itself is a critical variable, I think, in explaining the hypothetical facts as provided by Insider.”

  • HARP

    Yep……. Barry is one of the boys.

  • IADK3SLT guest only

    and his nickname is “my little pork chop” ?

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Stillf4Hill,

    I am confident that Hillary played a much greater role in this successful military action than she will ever be given credit for.  Someone has already found a link where Hillary has been photoshopped out of the picture that supposedly shows Gates, Biden, obama, Hillary and others watching the seals taking UBL out.

    Before I go all “ga-ga” over Panetta, I would like to hear all of the facts regarding what Hillary knew, when she knew it, what role she played this past year in helping set up this military action and how she convinced obama to do what he obviously did not have the balls, much less, the experience to do.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Critter will quickly dispose of UBL’s remains if he landed beneath the tree line. 

    However, if an enterprising mountaineer were to manage to recover the body, he would have a legitimate claim to the bounty, which might make hiking in the Hindu Kush the next gold rush, of sorts. How much do you think the Obama disministration would pay some lucky corpse prospector to keep his find secret? 

  • Onofre’s arm

    Critters will quickly dispose of UBL’s remains if he landed beneath the tree line. Nature is pretty good at recycling.   
     
    However, if an enterprising mountaineer were to manage to recover the body, he would have a legitimate claim to the bounty, which might make hiking in the Hindu Kush the next gold rush, of sorts. How much do you think the Obama disministration would pay some lucky corpse prospector to keep his find secret? 

  • yttik

    I think Larry is too quick to eat crow. The ends don’t justify the means. Panetta acting unilaterally doesn’t make me anymore comfortable than having him embellish the story with elaborate details about a fire fight and using wives as human shields. Sure, it’s great Osama is no longer a problem, but there are still major problems with our government not telling us the truth.

    As to Hillary, I suspect she was very involved and also the key in getting Obama to cooperate. Heck, it wouldn’t surprise me if she was the one putting pressure on Panetta. It’s ironic, the only mention of Hillary and the Osama killing are a bunch of articles about how she has allergies and put her hand over her mouth for that white house photo. It’s quite startling, sexist even, but there has been no mention at all of our country’s SOS and her obvious role in all this, beyond articles about hayfever and tree pollen. Common sesne tells you the SOS was involved.

    I certainly don’t have any problem with Osama being dead, but I do have a problem with the stories we’re being told. Was this a political execution on an unarmed man? I’m certainly not going to grieve over it, but it is problematic to now have a rogue CIA director ordering political hits against unarmed suspects in foreign countries without really consulting with the President or Congress. We need to get our stories straight and quit playing games with the American people because you can’t have both scenarios at the same time.

  • rw on histeria lane

    very interesting….so, I guess that means the person(s) that walked into the Embassy gets a hefty reward…and there was a power struggle after all….as a poster above noted, a coincidence that Panetta is moving out of CIA?

    did not believe at all that the body was placed at sea that soon…that brain is a valuable study….

    we need a deep throat equivalent…

  • FrenchNail

    Yeh, painkiller, that’s the big one. The big doodoo. The play to pay from Jarrett to Emanuel. The why the law license was lost.

  • Cindy

    Is this going to be a Watergate?????

    As God is my witness, I will never ask for another thing if that comes true!

  • FrenchNail

    I think it was all what Obama is not. Patriotic. There are some obvious in the world such as: killing Osama was above any politics. It was just the American thing to do, as: you attacked us without provocation, we will not rest until you’re dead no matter who and where you are.

    As rotten to the core Panetta, Clinton and Daly are, there is a line in the sand their heart will not cross. It is called Basic Patriotism. When it comes down to it, they will always define themselves as Americans. Not so the Obamas.

    And this is why our CiC needs to be Natural Born. For unquestioned Patriotism.

  • Cindy

    Dorinda—-Please go to the next post upstream, written by John Batchelor and  entitled “The Man Who Shot Bin Laden”.
    John references Larry’s remarks pertaining to “burial at sea”.

  • PssttCmere

    Thanks Larry….

  • oowawa

    A deep throat equivalent is of no use if there is no MSM brave enough to break the story . . .

  • PssttCmere

    Cindy….when referring to obama, I use my two middle fingers consistently….. :-P

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

  • John Smart

    wow. Great info! Thanks. 

  • packrat1145

    Aside from a hearty thanks for ridding the world of Osama bin Laden, I think it’s too early to heap much praise upon Panetta.

    Or, am I the only one who has noticed that three of the top movers and shakers of this operation were Leon Panetta, Bill Daley and Hillary Clinton; all three of whom were major players in Bill Clinton’s administration.

    Panetta was Bill’s White House Chief of Staff. Daley was his Secretary of Commerce. And, of course, we all remember the ‘two for one’ promise that put Hillary in the Oval Office as Bill’s alter ego.

    Even John Brennan was an intelligence briefer (CIA) for Bill Clinton for awhile. So he makes four who were involved in the bin Laden operation who had direct connections to Bill Clinton.

    Three of the four were CIA agents.

    There is no doubt that the main reason for going after bin Laden was simply to kill or capture him. My point is that it’s hard to ignore the nagging notion that perhaps those four, and possibly others, are working together to use that mission as a way to set Obama up for defeat in 2012, or maybe even before, for the express purpose of handing the 2012 Democratic nomination to Hillary.

    Others COULD include Joe Biden who was a very strong supporter of Hillary in 2008…

    I don’t think there is a shred of doubt that Hillary wants to be the Democratic nominee ASAP whatever it takes. In my humble opinion, neither she, nor Panetta, nor Daley, acted with anything but HER political career in mind.

    Don’t forget, “Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned;” and, no other woman has displayed as much scorn as has Hillary! I fully believe that everything she, Panetta, and Daley did relative to the bin Laden mission was payback for Obama cheating her out of the nomination in 2008.

    Furthermore, I also believe it is one or all three of them who are leaking most of the details that are coming out since the operation was successfully completed.

  • yttik

    “I don’t think there is a shred of doubt that Hillary wants to be the Democratic nominee ASAP whatever it takes”

    I think there is quite a bit of doubt about that.

  • Cindy

    LOL.. PsstCmere—-hadn’t thought about it that way!

  • Doc99

    More than most, Mrs. Clinton knows firsthand the regret her husband felt that the trigger had not been pulled on bin Laden earlier, doubtless chronicled in whatever papers Mr. Berger managed to smuggle out of the National Archives. Hindsight is 20-20 and Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Panetta’s clarity can’t be questioned.

  • Kathleen Wynne

    yttik,

    Already, we are seeing how quickly and easily the powerful woman is put into the background to make way for the accolades and history to honor the men, without indisputable evidence available to the publich which proves the man/men deserve the recognition!

    Historically, women have been “photoshopped” almost totally out of the history books and men have made certain that anything and everything they have done is put in the books, no matter how insignificant, because it will be exagerated beyond all recognition of the truth.  Even now, we are witnessing the knee jerk reaction of indifference to the women’s role in the evolution of  human history.

    What is happening now with Hillary is just another blatant example of this revisionist history.

  • rw on histeria lane

    good point. but, wikileaks has proved that the United States MSM does not have a monopoly on news worthy material nor do they have the turst of the ‘leakers’. fact is, like everything else, news is now global, or should I say, news is now twitter.

  • Cindy

    we need a deep throat equivalent…

    If my body loses any more estrogen than it already has, I’ll happily volunteer for the job.

    And actually, my brother was in the FBI with the original one, so it’d be nice to keep it in the family. :)

  • Kathleen Wynne

    ” “Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned;” and, no other woman has displayed as much scorn as has Hillary!”

    Here we go again!  The same BS attacks against the woman because we all know Hillary is a calculating, power hungry B___ch!  While on the other hand, always look for nothing but positive reasons when men are involved (Panetta, Gates, Daley).

    I would have thought that some lessons would have been learned about double standards and how they take away any credibility by the person using it a discussion where both men and women are involved.

    America has suffered greatly in losing better leaders in favor of incompetent one’s because of the double standard applied to women.

  • oowawa

    Oa–I don’t think I would want to be that “lucky corpse prospector” negotiating with any political entity with a vested interest . . .

  • Cindy

    Kathleen—I think the packrodent’s comment is a tale told by an idiot. Just ignore it.

  • EllenD

    It was always my impression that Panetta was very competent.
    Happy to see that is the case and modesty works for me as well.

  • Lana

    In Stephen Diamond’s article:

    Some have argued that our targeting practices violate domestic law, in particular, the longstanding domestic ban on assassinations. But under domestic law, the use of lawful weapons systems — consistent with the applicable laws of war — for precision targeting of specific high-level belligerent leaders when acting in self-defense or during an armed conflict is not unlawful, and hence does not constitute ‘assassination’.”

    Is this why the daughter’s story has been swept under the rug, so they can use the self-defense argument? Or the reason they played up the supposed “firefight.”

  • EllenD

    As rotten to the core Panetta, Clinton and Daly are
    Disagree.

  • fif

    Wow…please tell me this intel is going to be leaked. I knew that O being decisive just did not make any sense in the narrative of his character. So where is UBL’s body?!

  • Deapster

    I am waiting for Hilary’s tell-all book when she finally gets out of that nut house. I hope this story goes viral. It makes everything this boy President football spiker says about this event look even more reprehensible now.

    From the moment I saw that group picture and Obama looking all small and sheepish like the pizza delivery boy who stumbled on to something big, I knew there was more to this story. Thanks for putting out the 1000 words that picture needed

  • Fred

    The Saudis were paying the ISI to keep bin Laden safe and under wraps?

    Nooooooooo, Larry I don’t believe you.

    Well I used to suspect bin Laden could be under house arrest/protection in Saudi Arabia. Turns out it would appear as if he were under house arrest/protection in Pakistan under the watch of ISI paid by the Saudis. I don’t think I was too far off.

    Oh well. I always thought the Saudis were anything but ideal allies. I guess my thought was right.

  • Madame deFarge

    They are unbalanced and always looking for an angle.

  • packrat1145

    Re ” “Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned;” and, no other woman has displayed as much scorn as has Hillary!” 

    Cindy, you and Kathleen are just making making my point for me.

    Thanks!

    By the way, are you two competing with Hillary for the 2011 Most Scornful Woman Award?

  • packrat1145

    Kathy, be sure to check out my reply to cindy below. i would hate for you to miss a chance to vent your scorn…

  • FranSC

    Indeed!  I knew the Ulsterman account rung true to what we already know about this illegitimate POTUS, but it was very important to me for someone with Larry’s credentials and connections to check it out. 

    Ulsterman also pointed out that when 0bama came out of the briefing following the raid that he had with 3 people, he had papers in his hands that he didn’t have when he went into the briefing.  Ulsterman surmised the papers were the speech 0bama was to give to the nation last Sunday evening.  Who wrote the speech?  Who is insuring 0bama not only gets the credit for this operation but is making sure 0bama *takes* the credit? 

    That is one of the things I noticed about Nancy Pelosi during the healthcare debate.  The HC bill was her/the House bill, but she was always careful to give full credit to 0bama as though he wrote the thing.  The people covering for this know-nothing in this covert way, should be in jail.  They are more deceiving than 0bama.

  • felizarte

    I wonder if Obama is going to get rid of that Chicago socialist crowd and stick with the grown ups now?

    Pretty sure he would, if he thought it improves his reelection chances.

  • felizarte

    Perhaps Hillary would give herself a birthday present in October by resigning.

  • Rickya

    WOW!!! I have been following Ulterman’s blog for quite some time now and have viewed it with skepticism.   Your corroboration of his Insider’s account lends his blog some credibility.

  • Justine

    Packrat, in all respect, didn’t you mean to type “no other woman been scorned as has Hillary”?  I mean, Hillary was surely scorned by Obummer with caucus/primary theft.  How has she scorned anyone?  Appears that Hillary, in agreeing to serve as SoS, was thinking of her country first.
    .

  • Justine

    Packrat, in all respect, didn’t you mean to type “no other woman been scorned as has Hillary”?  I mean, Hillary was surely scorned by Obummer with caucus/primary theft.  How has she scorned anyone? 

    Appears that Hillary, in agreeing to serve as SoS, was not acting as a scorned woman, but was thinking of her country first.  The trouble is, so many happen in confidence, and, by virtue of the SoS post, the public is not privy to the behind-the-scenes actions of Hillary.
    .

  • Justine

    Packrat, in all respect, didn’t you mean to type “no other woman been scorned as has Hillary”?  I mean, Hillary was surely scorned by Obummer with caucus/primary theft.  How has she scorned anyone?   
     
    Appears that Hillary, in agreeing to serve as SoS, was not acting as a scorned woman, but was thinking of her country first.  The trouble is, so much happens in confidence, and, by virtue of the SoS post, the public is not privy to Hillary’s behind-the-scenes actions.  It’s hard to see when she’s acting as Hillary, and when as Obummer.  It’s a very fine line.

    I would advise that Hillary remove herself from the Obummer fiasco ASAP.
    .

  • Justine

    Packrat, in all respect, didn’t you mean to type ‘no other woman has been as scorned as has Hillary’?  I mean, Hillary was surely scorned by Obummer with his caucus/primary theft.  How has she scorned anyone?   
     
    Hillary, in agreeing to serve as SoS, was not acting as a scorned woman.  The trouble is, so much happens in confidence, and, by virtue of the SoS post, the public is not privy to the behind-the-scenes actions of Hillary.  Since she represents Obummer, we have no way of knowing what is Hillary’s and what is Obummer’s.

    I’d suggest Hillary remove herself from the Obummer team ASAP.

    .

  • Justine

    Packrat, in all respect, didn’t you mean to type ‘no other woman has been as scorned as has Hillary’?  I mean, Hillary was surely scorned by Obummer with his caucus/primary theft.  How has she scorned anyone?

    Hillary, in agreeing to serve as SoS, was not acting as a scorned woman.  The trouble is, as SoS much is confidential — between Hillary and Obummer.  The public is not privy to behind-the-scenes nuances/discussions.  Since the SoS represents Obummer, we have no way of knowing what is Hillary’s and what is Obummer’s.  
     
    I’d suggest Hillary remove herself from the Obummer team ASAP.  
    .

  • felizarte

    I am glad circumstances via Divine Providence finally handed Hillary the ultimate weapon that absolutely must terrify Barack Bin Obama.  He might comfort himself by thinking that Hillary already announced she wasn’t running in 2012 or even 2016.  But she is of course, entitled to change her mind if the country calls again. 

  • felizarte

    I am glad circumstances via Divine Providence finally handed Hillary the ultimate weapon of truth that absolutely must terrify Barack Bin Obama.  He might comfort himself by thinking that Hillary already announced she wasn’t running in 2012 or even 2016.  But what if she changes her mind? (which she is entitled to) Announces her tell-all book?  Who knows, Chelsea may become pregnant with her first grandchild which gives her a very good reason to resign?  

  • JB, SoCal USA

    I’m with you, EllenD and i believe most of the folk here as well.

    “As rotten to the core Panetta, Clinton and Daly are . . .”

    I totally disagree with “FrenchNail,” the resident CDS sufferer.  Hopeless.  Clueless.

  • JB, SoCal USA

    I’m with you, EllenD and I believe that most of the folk here do as well.  
     
    “As rotten to the core Panetta, Clinton and Daly are . . .”  
     
    I totally disagree with “FrenchNail,” the resident CDS sufferer.  Hopeless.  Clueless.

  • JB, SoCal USA

    I’m with you, EllenD and I believe that the overwhelming majority of the folk here are as well.    
       
    “As rotten to the core Panetta, Clinton and Daly [sic] are . . .”    
       
    I totally DISAGREE with “FrenchNail,” the resident CDS sufferer.  Hopeless.  Clueless.  And the  real reason why we have a scroll bar here.

    Or as our Founding Father, Larry Johnson himself would so eloquently proclaim, in response to FN, the Fanatical Nutcase:  “Horseshit!”

  • packrat1145

    No, Justine. I said exactly what I meant.  Hillary is a scornful bitch! http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0SO8ZpzrcdNXU0AhaP6w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-?p=%22Hillary+Clinton%22+%22We+have+a+right+to%22&ei=utf-8&fr=yfp-t-941&fr2=sfp

    The reason she accepted the Sec. of State job was because that was as close as she could get to the Oval office at the time. Plus, it gave her an ‘in’ wherefrom she could keep tabs on Obama to harm him if the opportunity arose.

    And, that from someone who wishes Obama could be removed from office this very moment. But, Hillary would be better than Obama for only one reason. At least she meets the Constitutionally mandated requirements for the office of president whereas Obama does not now, has not ever and never can.

    Hillary was reknown by the White House staff for being a bitch. There was a whole series on Free Republic about Hillary. Do a search for “THE REAL HILLARY CLINTON: Episode #1″ I don’t remember how many there were; but, you can go from #1 right on up until there are no more.

  • Candy

    Can someone please enlighten me: Who is Valerie Jarrett?

    Also, I want to say that before NoQuarter picked up on this, PUMAPac was on this right from the start: http://pumapac.org/2011/05/04/proof/#comments

  • Candy

    I also loved this as reported there:

    Regarding Panetta overruling the President:

    “‘There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.”

    Also:

    Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.

  • AbigailAdams

    “Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive”
     
    This is one of the first moral lessons I learned at my mother’s knee.  obama and his inner circle are deluded to think it does not apply to them.  The more tangled the deception, the sooner and more completely it is ravelled.  I intuit that there is so little upside to keeping obama’s secret, the rats will leave the ship just to retain what is left of their own strange sense of integrity.

  • PB from the island of long ,EST

     Surprie surprise surprise . . . long believed panetta was the typical DC burueacrat. Pleased to be proven wrong. Sadly not enough truth will permeate through this fiction of the golden wisdom of the POTUS and his actions.

     Sorry Panetta
    Thanks Again Mr. Johnson

  • Noogan

    Thanks, Diana and Katmoon, I hoped when I posted it that Larry might shed more light on it. Right afterwards I went out of town and so didn’t see any of your replies. Elizabethrc, it’s disturbing and disgusting to me too that more people can’t see through this charade! Last night the liar-in-chief was on 60 minutes! I immediately turned the channel! Why are we forced constantly to listen to this man? He makes me sick; and it makes me sick to see the media–Steve Kroft is just the latest to publicly whore himself out–suck up to him so shamelessly. 

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    I’m personally scared about the influence this valerie jarret person has over Obama.  She sounds like a freak weirdo and if I am not mistaken I have  read before that  she is of Iranian descent? or is Iranian.  Where are her loyalties? to have someone like her yanking on obama’s strings (cause we all know someone yanks on them) is simply terrifying to me.

      Who is yanking on her strings and what is her goal?

  • Noogan

    How To Destroy An Administration’s Credibility
    That this Administration can’t get its story straight should not be a surprise.  Virtually every other word that has passed Obama’s lips since he was elected has been proved to be a bald-faced and puerile lie. The problem with lying is that you have to keep track of all the bull**** you spew lest you contradict yourself and then the gig is up. 

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185666

    Noogan: I think this quote pretty much sums up Obama. There’s just one problem, and Karl unfortunately left it out. There’s no chance of anyone in our media actually CONFRONTING OBAMA with his constant “puerile” lies!!

  • getfitnow

    It was a Jewish newspaper. She and the other woman in the Situation Rm. were “removed. “

  • Cindy

    Candy—-I thought at first your question was rhetorical
    but here is wiki on Val…..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett

  • Noogan

    Only the few who actually have integrity will leave. I guess that means Gates and Clinton?

  • getfitnow

    Ahem, the very same position that the salary was bootsted (almost 100%, I think) after newly-elected US Sen Obama ssent  $ back to the hospital.

  • Breeze

    NY Hassidic paper ‘deletes’  
    Clinton from iconic photo
     
     
    Jerusalem Post,  
    by JORDANA HORN     
     
    Original Article  
     
    5/8/2011  
     
    The photograph showing President Barack Obama and staffers in the White House Situation Room carefully watching the raid in progress by US forces in Pakistan on the bin Laden compound last Sunday has been published far and wide. One Hassidic paper in Brooklyn, however, has chosen to alter the photo – excising Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and another female staffer from the picture.

    (snip)While Der Zeitung had no comment as to why it altered the picture, many conjectured that it was either because of concerns about immodesty, or strong feelings that women should not be in positions of power.

  • FLDemFem

    The Tea Party, and others, can use this without picking a story. All they have to do is ask what the true story is and why there are so many different ones coming out of Obama’s White House and then ask “Is telling the truth too much for Obama?” The answer is, of course, yes.

  • HARP

    Forgot to add the link for this little ditty. I don`t want anyone to think that I have this much talent !!!!

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2716923/posts

  • getfitnow

    I saw President Clinton in an interview some time ago. He said his main regret as POTUS –he didn’t get OBL.

  • getfitnow

    I saw another view of that photo which showed That One holding something. The first thing that popped into my mind was “is he holding a Gameboy?” Lol.

  • getfitnow

    When I woke this morning I head the snippet from BO’s 60 Minutes interview. In 2 sentences he referred to himself twice. I turned ot off when he referred to “the guys he sent in there.”  This guy has no shame.

  • William L. Donlon

    Katmoon: “Would there be some advantage to purposely screwing up the message —?”

    Some of this mess is because of the power struggle in the W.H.

    Jerrett, Powers, Donilon Vs. Clinton, Panetta, Gates.

    Panetta, Gates & Clinton have the “Creds” going forward.

    Jarrett, Powers & Donilon are screwed up from the get go.

    Donilon on “FOX NEWS SUNDAY” is UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!

    An interview for the ages.

    If any one can link it, it is well worth watching for the Jaw dropping stupity of it.

    Great job Larry.

  • Cindy

    getfitinow——-he has no shame, and hopefully no job come January 2013!

  • Agent X

    Look, the fact is that Obama the key and only true advisers won out… This will all come out in the wash…or white wash…. Stick a fork in Done Laden he is done….in.

    As far as the White House circle jerking is concerned…. This is news? I am surprised Sam Powers did not get into the act! But thank goodness for those who came to Panetta’s side….

    OK Johnson, you can pull the sword out that you fell on over Panetta. Well Done…

  • Agent X

    Look, the fact is that the key and only true advisers won out… This will all come out in the wash…or white wash…. Stick a fork in Done Laden he is done….in. Get some of the real facts out and lets keep moving with the other issues that are really hurting us as a Country. This 24/7, Done Laden this and Done Laden that is begining to bore me. Facts? Yes… Bullshit………can it!

    As far as the White House circle jerking is concerned…. This is news? I am surprised Sam Powers did not get into the act! But thank goodness for those who came to Panetta’s side…. 

    OK Johnson, you can pull the sword out that you fell on over Panetta. You have earned your keep for this month….Well Done…

  • Katmoon

    Here is the 60 minutes interview with Obama go to minute 9:05-this is where you here it expressed(in so many words) there was not complete support for this operation. At 5:08- 12:30 are the specifics we have become familiar with here. Trying to spare those from having to listen to the whole thing. Made the decision Thursday night according to the interview.

  • Katmoon

    To spare you from having to hear the whole thing if you don’t want to go to minute 11:39 this is where it is expressed(in so many words) everyone was not on the same page. From 5:09-12:30 is the details similar to what we have been discussing here.

  • Katmoon

    I have tried twice to do the link via you tube, here is the typed link

    http://www.youtube.com/user/60minutes

  • ~~JustMe~~
  • foxyladi14

    that is why I come here every day.thank you Larry. ;)

  • Katmoon

    I think Jarrett wil resign within the next month as well as the press secretary.

  • Katmoon

    ((JustMe))) Thanks!

  • foxyladi14

    didn’t you see all of us in that big boat with you honey?? :-D

  • Hank

    What I find amazing is that the Media insist he is a hero, We The People believe he is dead, but lots of things don’t add up and we for sure don’t trust NO MO BO.

  • FLDemFem

    I don’t think she will resign. She may be demoted, but as soon as she resigns she will have to face investigations and charges in Chicago. As long as she is in the White House, she is safe from them. She will stay there as long as she can cling to an office or job.

  • Diana L. C.

    I’ve always said that in the world of wild dogs, the alpha bitch rules.  I personally can use my own definition of the word “bitch” and using the connotation that comes from the connection to the behaviors of dogs, BITCH is a good thing, especially when leading a group of male dogs and less intelligent female dogs.

    BITCHES should rule this world as far as I am concerned, so take your (I’m guessing) zeta dog self and go away.

  • wbboei

    Larry, great article.

    I would say two things about this demand that the Seals sign non-disclosure agreements: i) first, if I recall the military oath which I took over forty years ago at Annapolis, it says something about supporting and defending the country and the constitution, and ii) second, John Dean was White House counsel under Nixon, he signed a non-disclosure agreement when he took the job, he was also bound by his ethical duties as an attorney which arose under common law, since the model code of ethics  did not exist in those days.  Notwithstanding these incumberances he appeared before Congress, took the oath and told the real story.

    As a practical matter, The only bona fide reason the Administration can advance for requiring confidentiality is the security blow black–and certainly not the political fate of Obama. That blow back can be addressed in camera, by closing the meeting to the press and getting the real facts.

    The Obama Administration has told several conflicting stories about this incident and Obama himself has been milking the issue for political gain til hell won’t have it any more.  Therefore, it is imperative that his exaggerated claims be re examined in the cold light of reality, which means the truth of the entire res gestae of the raid including the orders that were given, the actual risk which they confronted in the moment, where OBL was buried must also come out. Unless there is a compelling national security objection, every detail must come out–every single one.

  • foxyladi14

    usually I watch the news.but not anymore.they are all a bunch of parrots.carrying water for the fraud in chief =-X

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    its actually become a sort of sick morbid joke on my part.  My mom says to me, “geez gas is almost $4 bucks a gallon” I reply “hey but we killed bin laden” 

    or “Unemployment is creeping up again” , but hey we killed bin landen. 

    or Massive floods, tornadoes, people losing everything in the south, but hey we killed bin laden.

    thats what this white house wants you to see, think, smell, eat and the news outlets are so happy to go along.  So f*cked up really.

  • creeper

    Oh, for chrissake!  We knew about UBL’s whereabouts EIGHT months ago and waited till now to take him? 

    Actually, I believe it.  I think Barry-O left him on ice till this political event could be exploited to its greatest advantage. 

    We won’t discuss the risk they took that he might slip away.

    Phooey.  Back into the rabbit hole.  It’s saner in here than it is out there.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    its actually become a sort of sick morbid joke on my part.  My mom says to me, “geez gas is almost $4 bucks a gallon” I reply “hey but we killed bin laden”   
     
    or “Unemployment is creeping up again” , but hey we killed bin laden.   
     
    or Massive floods, tornadoes, people losing everything in the south, but hey we killed bin laden.  
     
    thats what this white house wants you to see, think, smell, eat and the news outlets are so happy to go along. One of the biggest red herrings I have ever seen by any administration in my life time.  So f*cked up really.

  • foxyladi14

    if he wasn’t dumped in the ocean???then where is that body???

  • Kathleen Wynne

    packarat,

    No, we are calling you out for your sexist comments against Hillary, without any evidence to support your one-sided argument.

    If men have most, if not all of the power, in these events, why are you attacking Hillary?  For no other reason than it’s what sexist do when they want to assign blame and divert attention away from the man being held responsible.

    actually, by your knee-jerk, lame assertion that Cindy and I have ”made your point” has actually proven my point that we’ve learned NOTHING about double standards and how they are destroying our country and that sexism is still alive and well and the double standard will continue to be used in attacking anyone who defends a woman against such frivolous attacks.

    Do you really think you’re going to get away with this blatant misogynistic response this time around?  Think again. 

  • wbboei

    This belated attempt by the administration to silence voices who would contest their self serving account of the presidents actions in the Bin Laden matter, is akin to the problem which arises in a court room during cross examination.

    It is black letter law that the scope of cross examination is confined to matters which are within the pleadings. If it exceeds those boundaries, then it is objectionable on the grounds of relevancy.

    However, if the proponent of the evidence delves into irrelevant matters on direct examination, and then objects when his opponent cross examines the witness in those same areas,  the proper response to that objection is this: you opened the door. 

    I submit that the same concept applies in this instance.

  • Possum Dearie

    The Tea Party likes the idea of Obama voting present on Operation Geronimo. The Ulstermann report that Valerie Jarrett is running the show, and Bill Daley and Hillary are working to push her out went viral. However, The Tea Party knows better than to put too much stock in anonymous sources. So, it is treated as interesting conjecture in keeping with the golfing President’s character. It does help Obama shake the Carter 2 label, and they admit that. Good for them, because there was a superstition among them that because Obama was so much like Carter, anyone could come along and be Reagan. It made them overconfident.

  • Candy

    Well Obama sure has some freako women around him. First Samatha Powers, now this Valerie Jarrett woman. (Not to mention Big Sis.) As a woman myself, all I can say is, WTF.

  • foxyladi14

    it,s his blackberry…LOL   LOL

  • Cindy

    William—-I saw a little of the Donilon interview yesterday.
     Honestly, I thought there had been a casting call for “Cuckoo’s Nest” and perhaps Donilon was there for that, but accidentally stumbled into the wrong studio.
    He was bizarre.

  • Possum Dearie

    Valerie Jarrett has known Obama for most of his life. Her mother was friends with Frank Marshall Davis and Thomas Ayers, the powerful utility executive father who helped his son Bill beat his rap. Bill Ayers, Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama are all children of parents who ran the hyper-left Hyde Park enclave and were also well-connected in Chicago politics. Obama has flat out said he makes no decision without her.  

  • Cindy

    Katmoon..~JustMe~ Always  saves the day!!!!!!!!

  • Possum Dearie

    Somewhere I came across a funny comment: “Obama kills OBL, and we get the 72 versions.”

  • yttik

    “Plus, it gave her an ‘in’ wherefrom she could keep tabs on Obama to harm him if the opportunity arose. “

    You are a complete moron. Hillary has had numerous opportunities to harm Obama, but she hasn’t. Instead she’s covered his ass for him. I’m not particularily happy about it, but she’s a collectivist, she works for the common good, the good of her party. Hillary will back Obama up until the final end, likely even campaigning for him if she resigns as SOS.

  • Possum Dearie

    John Brennan is an idiot, and the only reason he has his job is because he has dirt on on Obama. 

  • Possum Dearie

    We are lucky to have Hillary at State, and I think she turned down veep for it. As a Senator, she was most active on the Armed Services Committee. She has always had excellent working relations with our military, because she wanted to be CINC one day. She knew she would wield little power as veep, and she knew Obama needed to be carefully watched once in office. Only Hillary as SOS could run an end loop around Obama like that, but I also believe she, Panetta and Daley worked together to protect the President in case anything went wrong. This was the same play we saw with the Somali pirates when Obama first took office. He has never made a gutsy call in his life (except running for higher office, which is typical male arrogance to me, and look at him wanting to be PM of Indonesia at 9 yo), but the people around him have happily given him credit. That’s patriotism.

  • FrenchNail

    Scrolling….

  • packrat1145

    Re “No, we are calling you out for your sexist comments against Hillary, without any evidence to support your one-sided argument.”

    You know nothing about me. Just because I offer my opinion of Hillary, you claim I am sexist. You say that I “always look for nothing but positive reasons when men are involved (Panetta, Gates, Daley)” when the truth is that I included both Panetta and Daley PLUS Brennan and Biden in my comments about Hillary. Yet, you focus entirely on Hillary, totally ignoring what I said about the men.

    You claim to be against sexism toward women.

    The funny thing is that you ALWAYS call out anyone who says ANYTHING negative about Hillary specifically and only mention other women in passing, thereby relagating all other women to a position secondary to Hillary. Did you ever ONCE call HER out for her support of Bill when he was raping all those women and then throwing them away like dirty laundry? Bill, and by proxy, Hillary, have shown the worst kind of sexism toward women!

    And, if you never defended a conservative woman agaist attacks in the media, you are just as sexist as you accuse others of being. Sarah Palin has suffered all kinds of sexist attacks and so has every other conservative woman who is in the public eye. Yet, it’s hillary alone who gets any response from you.

    And it’s not just here… I see that you have a similar pattern of showing up in the comment sections of various websites with your constant defense of Hillary at least since 2008. I never once found a comment by you concerning ANY topic other than your overbearing love of Hillary.

    Are you getting paid by her to act as a troll? 

    By the way, how’s the weather in Cedar Park today?

  • FLDemFem

    It’s not too much of a stretch to believe he was called in off the golf course for the briefing when he is sitting there in a golf shirt and windbreaker. Everyone else is in work day clothes.

  • Anonymous

    Re “Hillary will back Obama up until the final end, likely even campaigning for him if she resigns as SOS.”

  • Anonymous

    One could say the same about Hillary, Panetta, and Daley.

  • murray

    Imagine Der Zeitung’s quandry if a woman is ever elected president!

  • murray

    If one were to believe Time magazine’s cover story a few months ago, you would know that Valerie Jarrett is:
    Obama’s Brain”

  • Kathleen Wynne

    the weather in Cedar Park is great!  Thanks for asking.

    BTW, you know nothing about me or you would know more about me than I live in Cedar Park!  I’ve been involved in far more involving our corrupt government than you have, and you don’t know jack about what that was, do you, smart ass?

    Yes, I defended Sarah Palin the same way I am now defending Hillary against the constant, lame ass misogynistic attacks that you are now spewing at Hillary.

    Since you obviously think you are somehow intimidating me by asking me about Cedar Park, did you also know that I am a member of “Team Sarah”?  Obvously not, but A-holes who think they know everything never know as much as they think they do.

    Yes, I believe every woman should be defended against sexism, the same way I have also believe AA’s should be defended against racism.  Both “ism’s” are equaly wrong.  Except sexism, unlike racism, predominately impacts women.  Are you as cavalier about racism as you are about sexism?   Bet not.  But you’d never admit it.  People like you can’t handle the truth because you are too busy being in attack mode to grasp the concept.

    I don’t get a red cent for my interests in justice for women in a patriarchial society which is hell bent on destroying the world because they can’t handle the the fact that neither male nor females should control everything.  But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that this isn’t about woman vs. man.  This is about what’s best and fair for everyone, whetheter they be male or female, or whether they be black, yellow, red or white.  It’s about doing what’s right for all human beings. 

  • Madame De Farge

    Make that Milquetoast…

  • murray

    Feliz – The great majority of Obama’s inner circle has been moved to Chicago to work on the 2012 campaign.

    While the cats’ are away, Hillary, Panetta, Gates, et al, seem to have taken advantage of the opportunity.

  • Madame De Farge

    Chelsea and new hubby are apparently living separate lives…might make a pregnancy problematic.  I hope things have changed but I haven’t heard otherwise.  Anyone??

  • Madame De Farge

    From the sound of the chattering “insiders” Ms. Jarrett is the de facto President ruling along side Mooch and Racist Granny…The Gang of Three.

  • Madame De Farge

    All sad Red Diaper Babies…never had a chance to develop without overriding parental projection.

  • trixta

    Yes, things don’t seem to add up, although I agree with Larry about Ulsterman’s story ringing true (for the most part).  Questions, doubts, etc, about the events still linger, however ….

    About the timing:  According to Tarpley, information about OBL’s whereabouts was leaked recently by Wikileaks,  which ultimatley precipitated the raid on the compound last week.  In other words, if this is true, the US was forced to take immediate action before the Wikileaks info went viral.  This could explain why an official narrative and taking points about the raid had not been crafted well in advance of the event. But this begs the quesiton:  Why did Wikileaks choose to leak this information at this particular time?  Could it have something to do with BO’s recent BC problem and his waning poll numbers? Otherwise, this OBL event would have been better timed for the 2012 campaign.

    About the body:  Why get rid of the body?  It appears that a raid on the compound did occur, but do we know if it was OBL who was, in fact, shot, killed, and disposed of?  Benazir Bhutto, before her assassination, claimed OBL had been dead for years (since 2001?), so if this is true, then who was shot and killed during the raid and disposed of afterward?  It was well known that OBL had doubles, so could it be the case that a double was, in fact, killed?  We don’t have a body, so I guess we’ll never know for sure.  (And DNA samples are meaninless, at this point, since they could have been gotten at an earlier date.  We don’t have pictures yet either, but can we trust their authenticy anyway?)  Also, according to reports, there was a span of time where the WH onlookers couldn’t see what was happening during the raid.  I’d like to know if they actually witnessed OBL’s killing.   

    Finally, OBL’s code name Geronimo is a very interesting choice.  As many know, Geronimo was not only an elusive figure, but had many doubles.  In the end, his real capture and death were steeped in doubt.  Such is the case with OBL.   Indeed, OBL as a kind of Geronimo figure is perhaps more epigramatic than we think.   As I said, a very interesting choice. 

  • rw on histeria lane

    Hillary Clinton, a woman who has gone further than any before in Am. political history….would want to resign because she has a grandchild??? Isn’t this attitude undermining professional women?

  • stodghie

    don’t forget the big money are behind daly. i look to see jarret taking more and more of a backseat as the adults shove her out the door. good bye to garbage.

  • Frank

    Packrat – you’ve exposed yourself as the kneejerk misogynist and hysteric you are. You’re creepy AND stupid.
    Kathleen and the others are running circles around you, packrat.  Perhaps when you catch up, you’ll understand how you’re your own worst enemy.  LOL. 

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  • FLDemFem

    She might want a job that keeps her closer to home and not running all over the planet cleaning up after Obama. The Presidency is just such a job. No one is suggesting that she would resign to sit home and coo at the baby.

  • Docelder

    I believe the media will eventually eat their own and turn on Barry. It is a matter of time and for somebody else to emerge for the media to be smitten with them instead. Team Barry knows the game. Does anybody else besides Trump and Palin know the game? Because if they do Barry will be the main course in 2012.

  • trixta

    Jarrett, steeped in Chicago politics, is BO’s brain.   They go way back.  

  • Diana L. C.

    Interesting, trixta!  I, too, have wondered if the real OBL was shot!  How will we ever know?

  • Retired

    This is becoming such a farce that I can only ask one question:  If there is an
    Abbottabad in Pakistan, is there also a Costelloagood?

  • Larry Johnson

    Not really a problem waiting.  You want to get as much intel first and act when your confidence in the info is high.

  • Agent X

     Retired, the real question is, who’s on first?

  • EWard

    Packrat

    I like you.  You remind me of when I was young and stupid.

  • Helen

    So the facts from the man that give rise to birthers and the whitey tape is that the US military had a coup and you are all so stupid to believe this?