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Truth v. Fiction, Cheating v. Honor

Paul F. Villarreal, whose YouTube Channel offers a fascinating collection of videos, found this report on CNN:

Philadelphia voter admits to CNN
he voted multiple times
for Barack Obama in Pennsylvania

Paul’s video reminds me of this anxious-making scene in West Wing:

That West Wing scene is described thusly:

The beginning (a.k.a. cold open) of The West Wing, season 4, episode 7, titled “Election Night”

The video comes from absherman13′s YouTube channel.

Paul’s description of the first video is simple and direct:

(Nov 4, 2008) — Self-reported voter fraud in PA.

I’m sure we must suppose that this was a rare occurrence, right?

It was probably just a prank, like the one that Toby pulled off on Josh, right?

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Special thanks to CJAnimate for sending me the first video.

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P.S. One of the highlights of the 2000 election was going to a rally “starring” Martin Sheen and Dule Hill from West Wing. They were not actors that day. They were patriotic Americans, and both spoke so very eloquently for Al Gore. As I said, that was one of the highlights of the 2000 election, which made me all the more angry and sad in the lowest of the low, agonizing days that followed in November 2000.

  • http://AmericasFavoriteTerrorist.com Gerard McNedich

    as they say in Chicago…

    vote early and vote often…

    oh dear…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • HARP

    From Hannity`s site:

    Ok I did some useless research so anyway here it is.

    Election 2004

    Bush 62,040,610 50.7%
    Kerry 59,028,444 48.3%

    Total votes 121,069,054

    Election 2008

    Obama 64,629,649 52.5%
    McCain 56,888,006 46.2%

    Total votes 121,517,655

    2008 121,517,655
    2004 121,069,054

    Difference 448,601

    Bush 04′ 62,040,610
    McCain 08′ 56,888,006

    Difference 5,152,604

    So what does this mean well probably nothing but anyway. Only a difference of 448,601 voters from 2004 to 2008. Bush pulled in 5,152,604 more votes than McCain. So it wasnt the new voters or voter turn out, only 448,601 more voters in 2008. It was the fact that McCain could not even keep those 5,152,604 votes that Bush carried in 2004. This is just my observation that I see as why McCain lost.

    The question now is why and how did McCain fail to keep those 5 million Bush votes.

    Just some last bit of info the last president to get +60% of the vote was drum roll *****Nixon******, Reagan close with 58.8%.

    I also wanted to show that Obama’s victory is not an election mandate by the American people.

    • http://AmericasFavoriteTerrorist.com Gerard McNedich

      you haven’t taken into account the states that had something like 120% voter registrations this year…

      how does that work?

      how can you have that high a number of registrations that exceed the population of the state?

      dead people voting?

      disney characters voting?

      very strange…

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

    • lastlemming

      I don’t believe there is an official tally yet. Still counting. Where did you get that number?

      • HARP

        Copy of a post at Hannity

    • lastlemming

      Those extra votes came from the modem connection in the tally machines.

      (cough) Rove (ahem)

      great picture of him at his computer on election night.

    • fluffy bunny

      Conservatives abandoned John McCain. After all those years of listening to them scream about “the unborn,” they refused to vote for the pro-life ticket.

      Next time some social con tries to get all superior because they care so much for the rights of “the unborn,” I’m going to laugh in their face.

      Conservatives are fond of getting on their high horse about how much they support the troops. But they care/support them so much that they hired Barack Obama to be Commander in Chief.

      Conservatives say they are against big government spending and want reform and a clean up in Washington. They had two major league reformers and budget hawks on a ticket, but wouldn’t support it.

      Conservatives say they want to develop domestic energy resources like oil, coal, and nuclear power. They had a ticket with two strong advocates for that, and the refused to go to the polls to support that ticket. Instead, by sitting home, they elected a guy who promised to bankrupt coal plants and make utility costs skyrocket.

      etc, etc, etc
      Therefore, big mouth conservatives are full of shit.

      They came out in droves for that ignoramous, big spending, corrupt guy who has damaged the military and abused the troops. But they wouldn’t support McCain/Palin.

      • suzeeQ

        can you (or someone) please explain to me specifically what the conservations did not like about McCain? What exactly were they pouting about? Immigration? what????

        • torland077

          for the most part the conservatives are sick of the Repubs total right now. The only reason they came out in 2004 for Bush was all the same sex marriage initiatives. Bush does some things they agree with but his fiscal spending drives them nuts and they don’t see McCain being much better on things like global warming, immigration, campaign finance reform, and others.

          Listen McCain stuck it in the face of conservatives alot in his career (especially evangelical conservatives, even calling them names) and it was hard for them to get worked up for him because of it. I appreciate his principles (even if I didnt always agree with him) and that is why I voted for him. Palin helped but it’s VP.

          • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

            If we accept your theory as fact, and it looks reasonable what you are saying, those conservatives are cutting off their own noses to spite their own faces! And they suck! I was a D and voted for Mac to try and save America from that rat fink bastard Baby Opampers!

          • suzeeQ

            so are you saying that if McCain had made a big honking deal about gay marriage & abortion he might have gotten the evangelicals whipped into a frenzy for him, like old George W. did? Then why in the hell didn’t they vote Huck in as their nominee? I’m just sick of the whole self serving bunch of them, on both sides. I’m 63 yrs old and am wondering if I’ll even bother voting again. I’ve never felt that way before & it’s make me sad.

            • tampagurl

              I think everyone threw away their values for the freebies Obama offered. Also Obama had a lot of money and used it to scare the seniors here in Florida.

              Also, I watched a video of Richardson talking in Spanish telling people Obama is an immigrant.

          • fluffy bunny

            McCain called Jerry Falwell an agent of intolerance many years ago. I can’t say I disagree with that sentiment.

            Many republicans hate McCain for criticizing Bush and Rumsfeld for their obvious incompetence in handling Iraq. They also hate that he worked with Teddy Kennedy on the torture legislation.

            Campaign finance reform–I wasn’t a fan, but Obama’s illegal fundraising and ridiculous spending show that some limits perhaps should be placed on campaign finance, right?

            Immigration–Obama’s worse.

            I didn’t even get to the 2nd amendment. Obama is very hostile to the 2nd amendment; McCain isn’t. I guess conservatives don’t care about that any more either.

      • Geo

        I am a former republican, now independent. I understand your frustration. I can’t believe that we didn’t turn out for McCain. I only voted for him because he was not Obama and mainly because of Palin.

        Obama is the scariest thing to ever come out of the DNC machine.

        How could Bush-Cheney with the Iraq war raging get 5 million more votes than McCain-Palin.

        But ask yourself, how could so many media elites who are conservative have jumped ship. The leadership didn’t endorse McCain. It is mind boggling.

        Now ask yourself this; why did McCain spend so much time in PA. What the hell were they seeing on the ground. It was a blowout in PA. This took time away from OH and FL.

        I believe that the MEDIA depressed our vote. It was a pure psych job.

        • andrew191

          I won’t ask myself, I’ll ask you! Can you name some “media elites who are conservative” that jumped ship?
          And don’t say Ann Coulter because even she in the end said she’ld support McCain.

      • Lee Ruth

        It wasn’t the conservatives that didn’t vote for McCain/Palin it was the blue blood country club snobs and Harvard grads that would not vote for them. People that wanted to be invited to the D.C. cocktail parties like C. Powell, Buckley, etc…

      • andrew191

        Fluffy Bunny,
        Or should I say dumb bunny. Not everyone that voted for Bush in ’04 was a conservative. There were many wishy washy middle of the road people that voted for Bush and that is why he won. True conservatives only account for about 30% of the electorate, so in both ’04 and ’08 100% of conservatives could have supported the Republican candidate, yet there could still be a vast difference in the tally based upon the votes of the ignorant masses that are too lazy and stupid to develope a partisan political position. If, God willing, 51% of the electorate were conservatives, McCain would now be the President elect.
        Colin Powell may have supported Obama, but Powell is not, and never has been a conservative, and there are many like him. Ever heard of “RINO’s”.
        Don’t blame conservatives for the outcome, blame pervasive stupidity.
        CONSERVATIVES DID NOT ELECT OBAMA!!!
        For you to make that claim is the summit of stupidity. An obvious product of public education.

    • McPalin

      Mac lost by only 5,859 votes in MO and 13,993 in NC. He did well in most counties in PA. If not for vote fraud that was certain, Mac would have won. If he got 1% more in Ohio, 2% more in FL. He would have won.

      • Yo

        What happened to those 1.2 million Cubans that supposedly did not want to live another socialist and were going to come out en masse and vote for McCain. They obviously didn’t come out or McCain wouldn’t have lost Florida.

        I’m so pissed at the conservatives right now because they didn’t come out and support McCain. I knew they didn’t like them but I thought they would support him and vote for him because Obama is so dangerous for this country. I guess they think that in four years after Obama gets done ruining this country, they’ll be able to sway the masses back to the Republican side and fix all the messes the O’man makes.

        Then I was really crazy when I heard that 78% of the Jewish vote went for Obama. I really believe that Obama is going to abandon Israel and let them get nuked by Iran and I also believe he is anti-Semite (pro-Palestinian) and the Jews are being led like sheep to slaughter once again. A Jewish lady on the Hillary Clinton forum says she tried warning all her Jewish relatives but they are FIRST Democrats and second Jews and they wouldn’t believe anything bad she said about Obama. I guess they’ll find out just how bad he really is right along with the rest of us.

        • NoBamaNoWay

          you are correct; i bet one of the first major crisises we will see in ohitler’s presidency is that some muslim group/country will launch an attack on israel to test President Hussein out. will he let them get away with it, as he no doubt wants to in his heart, or will he overreact to let everybody know he’s tough. either way, it will be a disaster.

      • Yo

        What happened to those 1.2 million Cubans that supposedly did not want to live under another socialist regime and were going to come out en masse and vote for McCain? They obviously didn’t come out or McCain wouldn’t have lost Florida.

        I’m so pissed at the conservatives right now because they didn’t come out and support McCain. I knew they didn’t like them but I thought they would support him and vote for him because Obama is so dangerous for this country. I guess they think that in four years after Obama gets done ruining this country, they’ll be able to sway the masses back to the Republican side and fix all the messes the O’man makes.

        Then I was really crazy when I heard that 78% of the Jewish vote went for Obama. I really believe that Obama is going to abandon Israel and let them get nuked by Iran and I also believe he is anti-Semite (pro-Palestinian) and the Jews are being led like sheep to slaughter once again. A Jewish lady on the Hillary Clinton forum says she tried warning all her Jewish relatives but they are FIRST Democrats and second Jews and they wouldn’t believe anything bad she said about Obama. I guess they’ll find out just how bad he really is right along with the rest of us.

        • Yo

          Sorry for the double post. Was trying to fix some errors in the first one and thought I had caught it in time.

        • fluffy bunny

          Inexplicable, isn’t it? I tried to gently work on some family members who are extremely devout Catholics. They would tolerate no criticism of The One. I thought the way he abandons poor relatives to living in slums might be a last chance, but nope. They all voted for the big O.

          I’m pro-choice, but I do hope they really like the Freedom of Choice Act. After hearing for years about their marches for life etc….I don’t know what to say. But they voted for the guy, and there is no way anybody can say he was shy about his extreme pro-choice stance.

        • no vote for oblabla

          All the Cubans did come out and vote for McCain…I’m one of them. The thing is that Florida has a huge population of Jews and blacks and they all supported Obama. There are more of them than there are of us and that’s why Florida went for the Obammunist. Also there are a lot of other Latin ethnicities here in Florida but they are Liberal, nothing at all like the Cuban Americans which are die-hard conservatives.

          Please don’t accuse the Cuban American community of not having voted for McCain/Palin. We are distraught enough as it is. I haven’t even been able to post here since the GE as I can’t even think straight since that day. I go from sadness to anger and back to sadness every minute of every day now when I think of the horror of what’s happened and what will become of our great nation once the Obammunist takes over. For me it’a a nightmare I’ve already lived through once before and it’s happening again for the 2nd time in my life.

          • FreedomFries

            President Barack Hussein Obama. Sounds good eh ?

            How much does it make you cry. Can you bottle those tears and sell them to Democrats as bottled Republican tears?

            I would buy them. I also can not wait to read and article saying President Barack Obama meets with Castro.

      • Lauraks

        McCain /Palin won Missouri!

        I know because the county I lived in for 10 years put them over the top.

        Ohio was won once the Supremes let Ohio’s Sec of State count those fraudulent 200,000 early votes. As for Florida and PA there was hanky panky but you cannot discount the effect of the drumbeat of the media calling battleground states based on exit polls.

        The real travesty here is that on both the left and right an elite exists who think their judgment is superior to the rest of us. Thus if they say Palin is stupid(which is patently absurd) it infects the airwaves like a deadly virus. What they are saying in effect is we are all stupid and frankly based on the lemming behavior displayed by the electorate , perhaps they are right about many. The media is paternalistic and preyed on the fears of an electorate going through hard times.The amount of money it took to buy the presidency is astounding to me.

        Now republicans ,who stayed home , who in general possess more of the collective wealth in this country , they will pay a hefty price fiscally. As for the less affluent in the land so will they.

    • FreedomFries

      Comment by HARP | 2008-11-07 00:39:55

      From Hannity`s site:

      Ok I did some useless research so anyway here it is.

      Election 2004

      Bush 62,040,610 50.7%
      Kerry 59,028,444 48.3%

      Total votes 121,069,054

      Election 2008

      Obama 64,629,649 52.5%
      McCain 56,888,006 46.2%

      Total votes 121,517,655

      2008 121,517,655
      2004 121,069,054

      Difference 448,601

      Bush 04′ 62,040,610
      McCain 08′ 56,888,006

      Difference 5,152,604

      So what does this mean well probably nothing but anyway. Only a difference of 448,601 voters from 2004 to 2008. Bush pulled in 5,152,604 more votes than McCain. So it wasnt the new voters or voter turn out, only 448,601 more voters in 2008. It was the fact that McCain could not even keep those 5,152,604 votes that Bush carried in 2004. This is just my observation that I see as why McCain lost.

      The question now is why and how did McCain fail to keep those 5 million Bush votes.

      Just some last bit of info the last president to get +60% of the vote was drum roll *****Nixon******, Reagan close with 58.8%.

      I also wanted to show that Obama’s victory is not an election mandate by the American people.

      A mandate for change is a result with more than 50% of the voters in favor of you. Obama got more tahn 50% of the result. He got his manadate and Republiscum will have to spend the next 10 weeks shredding documents.

      • Ted Kennedy’s Swim Coach

        Don’t forget to shave a couple million “ACORNS” from your calculation…..LOL…
        Amazing what 500 million bucks can buy for Hussein, eh?

      • PITA

        Mandate means to lots of them just the number to win. It’s not a landslide is it?

  • Northwest rain

    Were the Republicans correct when they were complaining about voter fraud — that people did in fact vote several times — vote for the dead?

    Now I’m beginning to wonder. I read a report somewhere that people were observed to re-enter a long line several times to vote and revote.

    But this election there were no “official” reports of voter fraud.

    This confession doesn’t surprise me — I’m just wondering why the guy confessed? Bragging??

    • lastlemming

      I believe he said–or meant–he had come back a couple of time only to see the line and leave, not vote a couple times. I don’t believe he’s indictable with this statement.

      • frenchman47

        Agreed; I heard it that way too. It was only the reporter’s last comment that gave any reason to believe that the guy was saying he had Voted a couple of time. The voter’s comment was preceded with comments about the lines being really long………followed by: “I came back a few times.”

        I voted for McCain myself but interpreting this voter’s comments as his way of saying that he Voted more than once just doesn’t cut it with me.

    • RebelCarol

      But this election there were no “official” reports of voter fraud.

      That’s because the Dems won this go around. The Dems are the “Voter Fraud” screamers. Of course we did hear about some voting computers flipping votes but apparently the majority of the computers flipped to the Obama side so that was okay. Oprah alleges her touch screen flipped her votes.

      • frenchman47

        Actually, Republicans are the ‘voter fraud’ ‘screamers.’ Democrats ‘scream’ about voter suppression. Acorn commentaries were by Republicans about voter Fraud.

    • Hope

      He didn’t even seem to know it was wrong. AAAANND the reporter told him it was okay. Scared much, little CNN obot?
      ‘I think that’s illegal, but that’s okay.’
      What an effing mockery Obama has made of our entire country and all it’s laws and values.

      • Zee

        Get a grip, people. CNN was joking with him. He came back because of the long line.

        NQ, I can’t believe you gave a slot to this Republican fearmonger. All it does is detract from legitimate voting issues.

    • McPalin

      Yes they did vote several times. They being mostly black women, used all of their surnames and several of their past addresses. No ID was required. They even signed up each of their children who had a different last name.

    • fluffy bunny

      Oh gosh, dead people have voted in Chicago and St. Louis for years. I’d guess that’s also true for Philadelphia and New Orleans also. Are the numbers high enough to actually change election outcomes? Not in close elections.

      My mom grew up in TX, and she says dead people vote there a lot too.

  • csuzeq

    And no one will do a damn thing about it. We have to play nice with Mr. Pussy black guy or else.

    If you accuse him of voter fraud, then you are racist and picking on a weakling. Leave the poor nice Black man alone!

  • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

    Its possible the person interviewed in the first video meant he came back to try a second time to vote because of the long line. I am sure there was cheating, but this video is not proof of it.

    • bert

      It is enough though for an official investigation. Philly area fat chance though.

      • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

        Indeed.

      • McPalin

        Philly county went over 80% for Barky. Don’t tell me this was one person, one vote. I do not believe it.

  • csuzeq

    At least I will not have to wonder what happened to America anymore. I know the day America died. 11/4/08.

    • Cindy

      csuzeq….Yours is an excellent sentiment!

    • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

      It actually died when the media joined forces with Bush and looked the other way as he staged a war, subverted the USC with the faith based nonsense, torture, GITMO, etc. It is the media that knowingly, willingly and with malice a forethought allowed Baby Opampers to seize control of our government.

      • NoBamaNoWay

        i think you’re right. we no longer have a rule of law in america. the most blatant corruption and illegality is tolerated and covered for by the media. they know which side their bread is buttered on. at the same time the keep the masses doped up on american idol and the latest celebrity “scandals” and gossip. ain’t america great?

        i think that the only solution is a massive reduction in the size of the federal government. we need to get power (and money) back to the states, where citizens can practice some oversight.

    • Yo

      Why can’t we go to something like a fingerprint system that is nationwide? We have huge supercomputers and they can be linked up like police computers across state lines. That way we can be assured it is one vote for one person and there is no way of getting around it.

      I’m a registered nurse and our drug dispensing system is fingerprint. When you first get hired you use your right index finger and you have to get three good impressions on the glass for it to register your fingerprint. After that you put in your user name which is your first initial and last name and then have to scan your right index finger on the glass to get it to open up for you.

      Wouldn’t something like that be great? It sure would end all of this crap that has been going on since voting was first started. No dead people could vote and it would eliminate double voting all over the country.

      • fluffy bunny

        How about everybody dips their finger in bright purple ink when they vote? It worked in Iraq.

        • tzada

          That is only as good as the people at the polls. If they want to pretend you don’t have a purple finger they will.

  • Strawberrybitch

    Voted twice? And this asshole thinks he’s clever. The bonehead just admitted it on national television…I just don’t think I can handle four years of this shit. If there is a God, Obama will get what’s coming to him, like NOW!!!!

    • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

      Don’t hold your breath. Look what it took to get rid of Hitler. God (if there is one) sat on his ass. I am afraid we are here to fend for ourselves. Divine intervention might happen but if it does it only happens on the small scale. And we don’t even know if that is true. I know you are being emphatic and all, and sorry to be serious. That’s a switch? :shock:

      • Cindy

        Galt….remember from history that the church, and Catholic church in particular, sat on its ass and allowed Hitler’s rise to, and demonic abuse of, power.

        • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

          Understood. I am no fan of “organized” religion (an oxymoron) and am very weary of anyone who invokes a deity as a reason I should do or believe anything. Sheeple enable bad leaders to seize control.

          • Cindy

            Galt— I believe that you and I and all good people here at the Quarter ARE the “divine intervention”(-ers?). We’re using all the power we can muster to intervene as ethically and creatively as we can in this national travesty. Power to the people, y’all!(I’m in Texas)

          • KathyNeocon

            Blaming the woes of society on “organized religion” sounds like Obotism.

            • andrew191

              If you are saying that blaming organized religion for the woes of society is wrong (Obotism), then I agree completely.
              Very few conflicts in the history of this world have truly been based on religion. Almost all conflicts arise out of the desire to acquire land, resources, power, and security, and religion is often cynicaly used as the rallying cry, but it is not the core reason for the war. It infuriates me when I hear people say that religion has been the cause of most of our wars, even though I’m an athiest.
              The positive contributions of religion to mankind vastly overwhelm the negatives.

          • NoBamaNoWay

            i hear you (been an atheist for 30+ years) but i am becoming more accepting of people who are benign in their faith and don’t try to push it on anyone else. i guess everybody needs something to help them get through in this world.

            when it comes to those who want to use their religion to discriminate (or even use violence) against those who don’t share their faith, i have no tolerance. unfortunately, the followers of abuObama have no clue that there are a whole lot of muslims in this world who would like nothing better than to see america go down in flames. or maybe they do know, and they also want to see america go down. wouldn’t surprise me.

            • tzada

              Half of the 8 million Muslims in the USA are black or Hispanic, with the majority being black. So there are 4 million of them here already pushing Islam. They chose well when they chose BO.

      • wodiej

        There certainly is a God….each person has a right to believe as they wish. But apparently you don’t know much spiritualty or you would know about free will. People are not leading their lives with a moral compass. I am no bible beater nor into organized religion. I simply believe people need to know the difference between right and wrong and live their lives accordingly.

    • Hope

      Check out what the pick 3 IL lottery numbers were the first nighttime drawing after Obama was elected.

      http://www.illinoislottery.com/numbers.asp

      When searching on the site, you can also find that has never occurred before.

      • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

        Let me guess, 666? :shock: If I am right I did not cheat! :mrgreen:

        • Hope

          Ding ding ding!!!
          We have a winner!

          • Galt’s Voodoo Doll Emporium

            Yeah I saw that. [Begin TwiliGhT ZoNe music] Damien Opampers is here! :shock:

            Have you noticed that Bush in the past 8 years has started to turn into Gollum (Lord of the Rings)? Baby Opampers will look as bad as Bush does now in 2 years.

            • TeakWoodKite

              How much is that Gollum in the glass case in isle 3?

      • McPalin

        Evening Lottery Pick 3
        Thu, Nov 6 2008 is 4-2-9
        Wed, Nov 5 2008 is 6-6-6

        • NoBamaNoWay

          quick, get this out to all the fundies that refused to turn out for mccain. maybe it will wake them up.

    • KathyNeocon

      Voted twice? And this asshole thinks he’s clever.

      If that were a McCain voter they’d have the FBI arrest him in 5 seconds. But for a black Obot it’s more like “awww…isn’t that cute how you jobbed the system.”

  • http://deleted BUzz McLatte

    Agreed

  • http://AmericasFavoriteTerrorist.com Gerard McNedich

    so Bill Ayers and Dear Leader are going to teach our children that voter fraud is something to be proud of?

    oh dear…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

    • NoBamaNoWay

      the rule of law is totally old school, bro. it’s world order now.

      • NoBamaNoWay

        oops. drunk. meant to say “it’s the new world order now.”

  • BerlinBerlin
  • Aleph

    Good video. CNN, I believe that attempting to overthrow a government is called sedition and not “okay” and not cute. Obama has gone too far and I wonder if he will go to jail before he moves into the white house.

    BTW Larry and Susan congrats on your google page rank 6. I am sure your blog will soon be ranked even higher. You are providing a place for people who have been silenced to have a voice and this is in the true spirit of democracy. Our country is in a time of peril; but these times can bring out what is best in those of us who are true Americans.

  • John Smith

    With job losses going through the roof foreclosures will be even more prominent. The market will keep declining for years to come. It will take a good 5 years for this to straighten it self out or about the time it took to create this mess to begin with. Obama will be the most infective presidents we ever head. Bush will look like a dream compared to this guy. It won’t be all his fault but the Hope & Change crowed will not understand why thing did not get better since they elected him. They will not come out to vote ever again. So who ever runs against him in 2012 will easily win. The problem with most politicians is that they have to deal with reality once they get into office and as Bush has found out reality can be very inconvenient especially when it keeps kicking you in the a$$ when you least expect it.

    • John Smith

      ineffective not infective

      • McPalin

        Infective too…
        A waitress in chicago was stiffed a tip when the black customers left a napkin with this note on it. “Blacks now own the blackhouse. We rule.” She snapped a picture of it with her cellphone and sent it to her Republican mother who passed it around to all her friends.

        • KathyNeocon

          Well we’ve seen what the blacks have done with their own neighborhoods and the inner cities, and now they want to “rule” the whole Nation with the racist vindictive miserly mentality it’s ok to stiff a waitress because of her race?? Sounds like African warlord rule. Third World here we come.

          • NoBamaNoWay

            ‘fraid so. third world country (or chicago), here we come.

          • FreedomFries

            Comment by KathyNeocon | 2008-11-07 02:31:18

            Well we’ve seen what the blacks have done with their own neighborhoods and the inner cities, and now they want to “rule” the whole Nation with the racist vindictive miserly mentality it’s ok to stiff a waitress because of her race?? Sounds like African warlord rule. Third World here we come.

            Did this waitress scratch a B into her face as well?

    • Yo

      I didn’t understand why the markets were tanking. I thought they were crashing because of the uncertainty of who was going to be president and they would straighten out after the election. My husband who is a financial planner explained to me that the markets are crashing because investors are getting their money out before Obama becomes president and raises the capital gains tax. He said it’ll probably be a tanking economy, or at least a weak one until Obama is out of office. Sigh!

  • mtc

    If the Republicans really want to get back into the game, then they should take a page from Axelrod. Find a charismatic and physically attractive candidate (like Palin but with a better education and more experience) from a traditionally disempowered group, groom her, screw public financing and collect massive amounts of money from people who will be ready by 2012 or 2016 to dump Obama. It obviously doesn’t really matter who is qualified to run. Just make sure that the candidate has a stable temperament, fabulous rhetorical skills, and the ability to make the public think that she is more talented. If I were they, I would start now.

    • Northwest rain

      Sexist pig – sexist pig.

      Palin has a very good education — she is extremely smart — she just has a vagina.

      And she has a HELL of a lot more experience that O-fartfart

      Right now I have no tolerance for sexist pigs.

      You are one of the worst.

      • Northwest rain

        Oh I get it — “experience” is the code word for — need penis to apply — creatures who pee sitting down scare the hell out of pathetic liberals-or progressives or whatever the hell you sexists pigs are calling yourselves today.

        • wodiej

          I agree…I am just so sick of all this sexist shit I could SCREAM. If Palin had been a man they couldn’t have fawned over her enough. She was extremely qualified and even more so than any of the other 3. IMO, she was the one most qualified. I asked a friends boyfriend why he didn’t think Palin was qualified to be VP, he said “I don’t know”. I know…she doesn’t have a penis.

      • fluffy bunny

        yep

    • Newly Independent

      If the Republicans really want to get back into the game

      Republicans have won presidencies for decades. They don’t need Axelrod to fix – er, win elections.

      McCain knew what it took to beat Obama. He just wasn’t willing to stoop that low to win.

      Find a charismatic and physically attractive candidate (like Palin but with a better education and more experience)

      CODE FOR: Not a woman.

      Sexist trash.

  • McPalin

    Sarah is awesome. If she came on the scene earlier she would have put Mac over the top.
    Now we lose. We’ll continue to pay high energy bills when we could have had a Palin Economic & Energy Policy. Rats!

  • Touchet

    I can’t believe that you all are talking about McCain and Palin and how McCain shoulda coulda woulda when you have people on TV saying that they voted TWICE in an election. How many elections do we have to have for you to realize that your rights are being trampled on. YOur constitutional right to a fair and honest election.

  • jbjd

    testing…testing…testing…testing…testing…

  • jbjd

    OT but… Does anyone know why some comments generated by the same person go through, but others don’t?

    • fluffy bunny

      happens to me all the time. weird stuff with electrons on the innertubes.

      nothing to worry about

      • tzada

        me too….I try and save what I wrote in case it happens where I can send it again. I think usually it is tied to links, so I sometimes post them seperately

  • wodiej

    People voting twice, public officials looking into the records of private citizens, voter registration and fraud, illegal campaign donations, NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, the list is LONG. I never voted for George Bush. The far right is as kooky as the far left. No matter what Bush did, it was ok because he was so conservative. Now the far left has their own version of Bush and got him in the WH the same fraudlent way, they must be so proud. Republicans didn’t want Hillary to win so they voted for Obama in the primary. then they didn’t want McCain to win because he isn’t conservative enough. And Obama IS?? What a bunch of pathetic, friggin nuts we have pulling the strings in this country.

    • Lee Ruth

      wodiej,
      All the Republicans I know voted for Hillary in Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos. I was glad they did.

  • tampagurl

    Matthews: My ‘Job’ Is To Make Obama Presidency A Success

    http://www.breitbart.tv/html/214673.html

    • BJ

      that’s sickening but then again we already knew that Matthews is a piece of shit-

  • IndieDogg

    I can’t prove it, only a theory, but I believe there might have been a very calculated reason for conservatives not to flock to the R ticket. [Saw one report of a voter from the group who explained why she didn't vote in the election: "My pastor didn't tell me to." That's telling. And unfortunate on so many levels.]

    Anyway, the theory is this.

    The economy’s in the toilet and likely to get worse before better. With the D’s controlling both houses and the White House, they have nobody to blame for anything but themselves. So, they let BHO and the D’s have it, figuring they’ll drown in it and then, in 2012, they get a better candidate and make another run at it. If they support McCain, they’re out of the game until 2016, at least.

    They dislike McCain so much, this makes a lot of sense to me. Do I think it’s smart? No. I think they underestimate Obama (though he’s certainly easy to underestimate on policy since he’s never done a thing in his public life, but he’s obviously not one to underestimate when an election rolls around) and underestimate the power of events that we cannot predict. They’re taking a hell of a chance with our nation’s welfare out of spite. Spite is my word. This warped reasoning (if it’s close to right) allows them to redefine spite as shrewd and clever.

    They would have helped, for sure. But, the rest of the country should not be let off the hook, either.

    Look at Independents, going for Obama by something like, what was it, 6-8 points? And 90% of all D’s going for Obama? They can’t all be Marxists. I sincerely believe two things happened, both related to message.

    Remember when “Where’s the Beef?” won an election, and “There You Go Again” and I’m sure some I’ve forgotten. “Lipstick on a pig” was doing the job, until the economy crashed and brought McCain’s campaign down with it. “Joe the Plumber” was a nice try but it was, honestly, too late. The suspension of the campaign that resulted in nothing but a fizzle for Mac, I believe, wounded him deeply, and the failure of him and his party to refute the D’s claim that it was all the R’s fault (it was not).

    I’m talking about message. Finding a defining theme for the campaign and sticking to it.

    Who’s worked on campaigns before? Remember how, if you’re with your candidate (a good one) for any length of time, you get bloody sick and tired of the speech. Well, you’re supposed to. That’s somebody finding a message and hammering it. Palin did that. She was criticized in the first weeks for rehashing her convention speech or elements from it. Are you kidding? The good ones all do that. It’s called staying on message. McCain tended to say the same thing, over and over, true. But, there wasn’t much there there. Where’s the Beef might have worked against him, actually, if anybody had thought of it. Obama didn’t need it. Nobody ever saw the beef. All they saw was McCain trying to shoot down the Obama 747 with a “He’s Scary” slingshot.

    Obama IS scary. I get that and I’ve made myself hoarse telling anybody who would listen. But, your campaign has to have a theme. A message. A right hook to follow the left jab. He’s a liberal. That’s a left jab if nobody got the reference. The right hook is your campaign “hook” that you hit them with after you’ve got them on the defensive.

    McCain never threw the hook. Palin’s a pit bull. No doubt about it. But, the head of the ticket has to head the ticket, eventually. He even softened his own signature message by backing the bailout with earmarks dangling from it. His BIG issue (rightfully so) and he pulls its teeth by his own hand.

    Stand up!! is supposed to mean something. A great opportunity to stand with the American people. I believe if he had blasted that bill and cast his lot with the American people on the issue, he would have done at least two things. Forever put to bed the McCain = Bush mess. He would be standing up, toe to toe, with his president on the most visible issue of the day. And, it would give teeth to his and Palin’s message that the free enterprise system has to be allowed to work. That he, McCain, was the only candidate who had proposed specific legislation to address the Freddie/Fannie mess (and, yes, I would have waved the bill itself around, on camera, and in the debate), that he was the candidate who had warned what might happen if this thing was not addressed (Obama said he had but he stole McCain’s line again, without a whimper from McCain — ask him to show the people the letter or the bill that he, Obama, is talking about — he doesn’t have one — he made it up — call him on it). And, finally, please, point out that the D’s controlled Congress while they claim the R’s were torching the economy.

    He never threw the Right. Or, maybe he doesn’t have a Right to throw. Who knows.

    My point is, message matters. Words matter (if you have deeds to back them up, which Mac did/does).

    Obama had a message. McCain didn’t. People might really be voting against somebody, but they don’t want to think they are. They want to vote FOR something. Obama gave them something. Actually he gave them whatever he thought they wanted to hear, but he did give it to them. McCain didn’t.

    And, yes, the MSM played straight man/woman. To their never-dying shame (whether they feel shame or not is an open question, but they should). But, McCain did not help himself, either.

    Obama was allowed to say anything and never get called on it (by the media OR by McCain, he left Palin to do all the dirty work) so he could tout his 95% tax cut without ever getting serious tied down on it, or change positions daily. It started with the campaign financing issue. McCain should have nailed him to the wall and never let up. Obama hadn’t even started campaigning yet and had already brazenly broken a pledge that he had been bowing to the day before. Okay, so Obama was given a free ride on his message and he kept hammering it.

    And McCain never even found his message.

    The comment of commentators after the R convention were telling. One of them noted that Governor Palin had just done the best job they had heard of defining the R agenda and message in terms that people could understand. Well, that’s not great if the head of your ticket has not done that and, frankly, never did. Obama’s scary. That was his mantra.

    An example. I heard Palin state twice, in little covered speeches (they refused to cover her, amazingly, unless the media thought she’d done something they could “use”), that she and McCain believed the federal government should have to live on a budget just like ordinary Americans and that they pledged to balance the federal budget by the end of McCain’s first term in office. I had to check with others to make sure I’d heard this correctly because it’s the only time I heard it mentioned in the entire campaign.

    Balance the budget. With a deadline.

    Nice issue. Where did it go?

    What did McCain say he would do if elected? He’d “Shake up Washington” and stand up for his country. Well, that’s okay, nothing wrong with it. But, he’s part of the Washington old guard. Hard to make that sale (though Palin helped) but okay, not a bad thing to say. But, it can’t be your entire message.

    Obama’s scary. And I’m not.

    Hell of a tactic.

    So, yes, the conservatives might have gotten too clever for their own good (and ours).

    But, I would not discount the degree to which McCain, never a great campaigner, was the architect of his own downfall. At the end, he was drawing 1,000 people to Palin’s 15,000. Not a good sign. And, I think it was because he’s not a great messenger (nothing he can do about that; he’s a solid guy in a lot of areas, just not an orator), and because he didn’t have a clear, compelling message.

    But, hey, this is all speculation.

    Let’s call it an informed guesstimate.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      realistically, everything was going against this Rs this time around; i don’t see how any R candidate could have won, especially when you figure in the total media shilling for BO, 24/7.

      • Northwest rain

        Only 14% of the Media reports were positive. That was a study reported on Fox news (who had a 40/40 balanced reporting on the candidates — so good for Fox! They were just doing their job — and the only ones doing any sort of fair reporting.)

        The video for this Fox report is in NQ archives.

        With all negative all the time from the rest of the corporate media no wonder McCain didn’t seem to have a message.

        With this election the dem party committed suicide – because it’s going to be a very long time before another dem loser is elected.

        NQ isn’t going away — the dirty tricks, graft and corruption of the Chicago mafia is going to shock and disgust even the most seasoned political blogger. Since tweety says it is his job to make the lazy Prez look good — it is the job of the political bloggers to tell what is really happening.

      • Newly Independent

        I agree.

        McCain ran a good campaign. The deck was simply stacked against him. Many in his own party didn’t support him. Now they’re stuck with Obama. The joke’s on them. And us.

  • BJ

    Surely this doesn’t really surprise anyone does it? Just like his bullshit donations of $600 mill “all from little donors”

    BULLSHIT- you can donate annonymously online with no tracking.. all you need is to keep buying debit cards and donate with a made up name.

    but the media doesn’t care and apparently the not so good people of this country don’t care either.. corruption is ok if it suits your agenda.. just like the bush administration and his ilk.

    welcome to the US folks-

    aren’t ya proud?

    • Mike

      That little federal warning just before you donate saying you must be a US citizen and not donate more than $4600 for primary /general election is a joke. If nobody checks the actual donations, what good is it. I’ll bet a lot of BO’s dollars came from overseas foreign nationals. Same goes for supposed qualifications to run for POTUS…. must be natural born US citizen, but nobody checks obviously since Barkie didn’t show any proof.

  • Mike

    Just read a news article on Google saying Gov. Palin has only been home in Alaska for less than 24 hrs and there’re already interview requests piling up in her office from Barbara Walters, Oprah, Larry King, ….. and more. Weren’t all these people in the tank for the Messiah before the election. Trashing McCain/Palin on The View, etc… Oprah refused to interview Palin before the election, but now that her guy has won, she wants Palin on her show now. Give me a break! They only want to exploit Palin to get big TV ratings for themselves. I hope Gov. Palin just ignores all these requests. Turn them all down! She’s got more important things to do now like run the state of Alaska.

    • fluffy bunny

      I agree. F em.

    • Newly Independent

      F— those ratings whores in the MSM. Who the hell’s gonna watch them?? Most Americans aren’t going to watch those bastards after the hit jobs they performed on Palin and McCain!

      With Obama poised to shaft the entire nation beginning in January, the Obamabots’ fantasies of “hope” and “change” will come crashing down to reality. His shine will wear off very quickly. The MSM knows this – so off they go. Sniffing around for Palin to try to save their sorry ass ratings! This is an outrage – an EXTREME insult! This really pisses me off!!!!

      I hope with every fiber of my being that Palin turns them down!! Hope she tells them in a dignified way to go f— themselves! Let ‘em rot! It will be a great privilege to watch those douchebag “news” networks & newspapers die slow, agonizing deaths.

    • Newly Independent

      This just caught my eye:

      Oprah, Larry King,

      Son of a bitch.

      OPRAH?

      The same Oprah that refused to interview Palin before the election? The OBAMA Oprah?? THAT Oprah?? And Larry King??

      I’m so f—— mad I can barely see straight.

    • tzada

      Greta from FOX gets the first one, according to Drudge

      Hope Sarah stiffs the others, especially the big fat O

      • KathyNeocon

        Hope Sarah stiffs the others, especially the big fat O

        Amen, the big O of the O & O Fascist Dynamic duo: Obamanation brought to you by Obama and Oprah.

        Sarah should talk to Fox and Rush. The rest of them can go to ****.

  • kbdabear

    I’ve never thought much of Brad Whitford. Every time I saw him on the Warner Bros. lot he was ranting obnoxiously about something.

    My favorite scene with him was when Al Pacino slammed him against the wall and put a choke hold on him in Scent of a Woman.

  • lizpolaris

    Let’s not get our undies in a twist over this video. Pretty clearly the guy in the hoodie means that the line was so long, he joined it a couple times and gave up before he voted.

  • renegade

    I see you clowns are still whining. What a bunch of rubes.

    • PITA

      The whining will begin in earnest when Obama doesn’t deliver on his campaign promises. We can’t wait to see you cry.

  • hootnannie

    Does anyone honestly believe that Indiana went blue, especially for an apparent radical like Bobo? Look at all the illegalities that Bobo’s camp practiced against Hillary! Busing in out-of-staters, coersing caucus voters, conspiring with the DNC to twist rules, etc. There have been accusations that votes were counted more than once in the NC primary, so it’s not going to happen in the general? In any solidly Bobo areas like ghettoes or youth enclaves, does anyone think the O-bots acted in above-board manners? Some of these folks think slavery and Jim Crowe make any-means-necessary actions okay. The Stalinists among them concur. Many states with large cities squeaked to Bobo, and I believe this is why. And the MSM has to suspect it. Either they agree with the mercenary O-bots, or they’re afraid to rain on the historic parade. Eventually, it will all start dribbling out, and we have a drop with this video. The cause of minorities running for high office will only be damaged by it all.

  • karen

    I don’t understand how these people are getting away with voting more than once. The day after the election, there was a news story about how people had “mistakenly” voted twice where I live also. They all happened to be black, too and so I’m guessing those votes went to Obama since most black people voted for him.

    Why is no one concerned about this? Why is there no investigation? I am becoming increasingly alarmed that black people seem to think they do not have to follow any rules. WHY?

  • Alamiss

    To My No Quarter family
    As a Chicago female AA supporter of John McCain and Gov. Palin, I share your hurt and disappointment with this election loss. My heart is so heavy and I am so hurt that Obama got this position. What a sad day for America. I had a heated discussion with my husband who called Sen. McCain a racist. I told him that I have no pride that a person like Obama did what he and his supporters did to gain the presidency. My heart is still heavy and I will never support him. I told my husband that anyone Black, White or Biracial who uses race baiting or any kind of racial division to gain political power is the true racist. I am ashamed that AA’s judged Sen McCain by the color of his skin and not by the content of his character. To me it is not the AA’s who have come a long way. Clearly, as a group we cannot be trusted. I think the AA almost total support for Obama was more about revenge than about racial pride. That hurts. By the way, Obama is not this nation’s first AA president-elect. He is the first Biracial president elect. There is a big difference.

  • artemis

    YOU ASSHATS, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO THE POLLS A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE THE LINES WERE TOO LONG FOR HIM TO WAIT. THIS REPORTER IRRESPONSIBLY MISREAD HIS STATEMENTS AND DID NOTHING TO CORRECT HIS MISTAKE. ACTUALLY WATCH AND LISTEN FOR ONCE AND DON’T JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO BELIEVE. DO YOU HAVE ANY REASONING SKILLS LEFT?

    • kailyne

      hey cap lock,

      that’s not what he said, it may have been what he meant, but not what he said. and unless you have spoken to him directly, it’s safe to assume that none us know whether he voted once or 100 times.

      i live in ohio, and my guess is he voted more than once.

      but, here’s an idea – perhaps the cnn reporter could have asked him what he meant. but that wasn’t the story he was being paid to cover – nope, he was supposed to report on the mood and excitement in the community about Senator Obama, and as Chris Mathews reported earlier, he was just doing his job.

  • Ali

    This is a big problem.

    I discovered that when I voted, my brother-in-law was also registered at the same site. Only problem – he had already voted…. miles away at his new address. Yes, he could have voted twice.

  • jean breban

    I am very old and have (professionnaly) a very deep knowledge of socialism in the Eastern Europa.

    If you believe that you will have regular elex in 2012, you are kidding yourselves. You live in Cuba now and you will learn it pretty soon. There is no way out.

    I am told that 1/3 of evangelists and about all catholics vote Obama on the abortion issue. No surprise. Christians were exactly that stupid in Europe at the begining until it was too late.

  • Jack

    And how can you have in MI 41 M 57 O = 98& at 100% said..but reporting as you watch 102% huh??How? where did the 4% go?????

    You Obvots may get what you ask for in helping in the voters fraud..As many are yelling they want their pay.Well how does it feel in cheating AMERICA? What about your children? How does it fell to be dis honest..Well not live with it!!!!

    You won’t get a think.You been used…